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Are there more than 2 genders?

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Yeah so I've always been anti-sjw and despised all the 73 genders bullshit.
But recently I got in debate with some guy and he claimed that science is with him . I am not a biologist or even have any non-basic knowledge in the field.I do a Google search and find these

https://www.google.co.in/amp/scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2015/02/18/the-idea-of-two-sexes-is-simplistic-biologists-now-think-there-is-a-wider-spectrum-than-that/amp/

http://www.medicaldaily.com/challenging-gender-identity-biologists-say-gender-expands-across-spectrum-rather-323956

All the other results were also in the same direction. Right now, I am almost convinced there are more than 2 genders. Can anyone provide me with solid evidences in support of 2 genders ?
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POO
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>>134560926
There's a few freakish exceptions to pic related, but regardless of appearance if somebody has a Y chromosome they are male.
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>>134560926
Penis. Vagina. Two different things. The only two things. Two genders.
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>>134560926
Gender is a term to define the "roles" and the behaviour of the sexes.

It also implies that these roles and behaviours are socially constructed.

It's impossible to completely falsify, so it's not a scientific theory and you might as well believe in the existence of gnomes while you are at it.
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>>134561286
Even at that most of the freakish mutations are still distinctly male or female.
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The studies I've read simply show that the transexual has body dismorphia. It's not a typical male brain anymore, nor is it a typical female brain. It's a brain with body dismorphia, same brain structure in anyone who loses connection to their actual body via mental delusion.

if you spent years convincing yourself that you are actually a human sized t-rex, then you would have the brain of a tranny. a confused brain that is used to seeing itself as something other then what it is.

it's just mental illness plain and simple. chromosomes are totally real and very important to biology, genetics, and gender
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How is it so hard to find any peer reviewed researched paper in support of 2 genders. And with the tension around the topic, there must have been many biologists who called out bullshit on more than 2 genders? Any link?
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>>134561286
>>134561605

Actually incorrect

Y chromosome can be mistaken for an "X" and be bundled up as a "barr body" (something that happens in the female body to prevent over transcription of X related genes). With all Y related genes completely concealed from ribosomes, the body will become a female. And it's not super uncommon either.

That said, they will then look 100% female and noone should be able to tell the difference in any way short of a chromosome test. Any faggot ladyboy that wants to be a girl hasn't experienced this phenomenon
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>>134561775
It's very clearly a mental illness. The fact that the 2 groups of people with the highest suicide rates are trannies and those with schizophrenia proves they are equally insane.

Going along with trannies delusions is just as morally reprehensible as telling schizos to obey the voices they hear.
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>>134562003
>>134562173
Interesting and informative. But can anyone of you link me to an article or video or anything by a professional as well?
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>>134562003

This means there are still two chromosomes, X and Y.

You have no point to make, you just want to play gotcha.
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>>134560926
POO
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DESIGNATED STREET SHITTERS
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>>134562598
I was just saying there is a contradiction to "XX always = female" claim. It is so often enough that it's a pretty reliable fall back, but there are biological reasons for exceptions

>>134562485
https://teaching.ncl.ac.uk/bms/wiki/index.php/Barr_Body
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3746477/
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>>134562485
i dunno, a lot of professors would lose their jobs supporting two gender science. i doubt many are willing to do the studies, and i doubt the media would report on them. there are studies and i've seen a couple years ago, but they can be hard to find

controversy and good science can sometimes be a bad career move for a scientist looking to keep his job

anyone who doesn't realize politics has an influence in science is naive. science is tainted by politics, the peer review process fails often, and scientists are humans like any of us and imperfect.
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>>134560926
>you now realize that within the next ten years you will start seeing this shit on job applications
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>>134560926
Technically there are more than two genders but theyre mutations. As a result anyone who isnt either male or female is actually a disabled person.
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>>134562485
It's a broad topic but a simple Google search will give you what you're looking for.

The facts aren't really disputed. The only arguments are that trannies claim sex and gender are separate as if your appearance defines your biology and that the reason trannies have such a staggeringly high suicide rate is due to bullying instead of mental illness but that is also proven false due to the fact that dat, ugly, disabled, and Indian people are bullied just as much as trans fags and don't commit suicide nearly as much due to the fact they aren't insane.
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>>134560926
Humans have two sexes. Male and female. Occasionally you get hermaphrodites due to mutation.

I wonder if there are species with more than two genders though? How would that work?
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>>134561041
Fpbp
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>>134562909
Your gender is determined by your chomosomes though.
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>>134562909
But there must be someone to point out the lies
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>>134560926

>India
>Science

better make a choice there lad
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>>134560926
There are more than 365 genders and sexual orientations for humans. That's the right message! Give handjobs to strangers underneath the moonlight while you fuck a fleshlight.

shake it
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>>134563301
The youth is more biased towards facts rather than religious feewings. So yea
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>>134563300
Considering the lack of bathrooms in your country, I can see your confusion.
There are 'mens' rooms and 'homie' rooms.
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>>134562909
This.
I used to have a professor, guy named Peter Duesberg, who found that a good proportion of "AIDS" cases were just immune systems getting shot from overuse of designer drugs in Gay clubs

He was tenured so they stuck him in a closet with no grad students...

His theories weren't perfectly substantiated, but he was made an example that you aren't allowed to go against the narrative if you want to keep your ability to research.
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>>134563458

do some (((research))) into how google works you shit slinger
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>>134563496
>Homie
Goddamn autocorrect. Women's.
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>>134562906
So claiming that XX=female and XY=male is factually incorrect?
Thanks for the article btw, I'll read it out tonight
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Sex and gender are an extremely polarized bi-modal distribution. Non-binary genders are statistical outliers that would be ignored in any sane field of science.
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>>134560926
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>>134563661
Oh fucking piss off fag. You add nothing to the conversation
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>>134562173

What's really sad is that gender reassignment surgery either increases or keeps the same suicide rate.
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>>134563694
Generally no, but yes there are exceptions.
XY 99.9% of the time male, but can be female
XX Always female
XXY can be both, probably slightly more likely to be female, but this is also where most hermaphrodites come from
XYY probably male if viable
YY not viable
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>>134560926
There are five genders in Russian language

male, female, neutral, general, double-able

but only two in the real life
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>>134563615
Well that fucking sucks. But has the narrative aligned towards multiple gender ?
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>>134563881

>Doesn't know how google works
>abuses me for it

alreet m80 calm dooown
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>>134560926
if you change the definition of gender but then pretend like that was always the definition then sure
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>>134560926
There is no such thing as gender, the correct word is sex. And there are only 2 of them.
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>>134564229
Honestly got out of academia before this whole "Muh Genders" meme started, so I'm not quite sure. I wouldn't be shocked if there has been a push to bury legitimate research on phenotypic gender expression
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>>134563458
A wicked and faithless generation asks for a sign. None shall be given except the sign of noah. Well guess hwat. The icecaps are melting and the flood threat looming. Time for a total Dues Vult to prevent a flood by triggering mini ice age. you know what time it is. Revelation 12 time come sept 23. Eclipse to come prior.
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>>134563938
I can't imagine how horrible the experience of post OP sex reassignment must be.

I had a botched appendectomy when my appendix burst. The incision got infected and I had to "pack" the wound to keep it open for a week until I could see the surgeon again. This consisted of me stuffing gauze into the wound to stop it from closing.

The first time I tried to do it I vomited and burst into tears like a little bitch. Hands down the hardest thing I ever had to do. I ended up paying a nurse thousands of dollars to come to my home and do it for me. This was only a 2 inch incision beside my belly button. I'd rather die than have to do that where my dick and balls are.
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>>134560926
You can't even do scientific sources right, POO. You linked fucking blogs, you gigantic faggot. Both of them referencing the same article from "Nature" magazine. In other words, you're trying to push that you have multiple sources behind you and yet you only posted one. And didn't even fucking link it.

https://www.nature.com/polopoly_fs/1.16943.1424349308!/menu/main/topColumns/topLeftColumn/pdf/518288a.pdf?origin=ppub
For anyone interested. It's worth noting that the whole piece talks about chromosomal ABNORMALITIES. It then goes on to try and justify society recognizing sex as a spectrum. This isn't science, this is an opinion piece. And a poorly educated one at that.
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>>134564243
Simply googled "are there more than 2 genders". Results shocked me so came here for opinions of likeminded people. But rather than teaching me how to Google, try being a little useful to the discussion
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>>134564826

Well then riddle me dooped India brah.

Always liked you more than pakis anyway lad
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>>134561775

Well said. Good leaf.
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why can doctors legally give these mentally ill freaks test hormones and shit but men aren't allowed to obtain roids
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>>134564807
I'm not pushing anything mate. These blogs were all I found. And as someone not knowledgeable on the matter, I couldn't come up with any argument and came here
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>>134563938
Transgender psychiatry is all based on John Money's perverted experiment to raise a boy as a girl. That ended in suicide too, for the boy in question AND his twin brother.
What's really REALLY sad is that people know this and still feed into these peoples' delusions more and more until it's too late, instead of doing something that would actually help them.
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>>134564926
Bruuuuhh
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>>134561775
This is further backed up by the fact that treating a transgender person for schizophrenia has a much higher success rate than crossdressing and body reassignment surgery.
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>>134561775
Is there a way to fix that, or research into fixing it? Memes and feminist bullshit aside, it must be hell to those people.
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>>134562909
Why isn't there an anonymous publication and review system?

Let people submit the data, peer review it, and put it out there without compromising the careers of scientists for going against the modern zeitgeist
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>>134565607
Who funds the research?
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>>134560926
your gender is your biological sex you were born with. think otherwise? eat shit and die.
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>>134565607
Sounds like a fair deal to me
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>>134564195
what would a YY look like?
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>>134565607
I don't have the link but some biologist wrote letters to hundreds of his peers and asked them to reply anonymously if they wished, but to state the reason. The letter was about his theories on biological realities of race so not exactly the same as what this thread is about but still scientific truth being smothered by the prevailing narrative. The replies were overwhelmingly in agreement with the "racist" findings but remained anonymous for fear of losing their careers.
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>>134560926

Well the term gender really is a sociological term and there really are sociological contexts where there are more than two genders.

Like effeminate gay men are considered "two spirit" in native American culture, that they have a male and female soul in one body, or in Thai culture they have "lady boys" who fit certain sociological niche's that men and women don't (such as being hosts in bars who can break up fights, because men don't see them as female hosts they would want to keep fighting the other man to impress but also not as male hosts who they would feel directly threatened by and start hitting them too if they tried to get in the middle of a scrap).

However, ironically, these "third genders" usually come around because of the lack of acceptance of homosexuality or transgenderism in those cultures. In Native culture a man isn't considered a real man if he doesn't want to fuck women, so he must have something weird about his very soul that makes him half woman even if his gender identity is no different it's just that he's gay. And in Thai culture they don't accept that if a man is transgendered and transitions he can be considered and treated like a cis woman, he becomes a third gender that often ends up in the sex trade.

But retard SJWs think that means anyone but them accepts all their alt-gender autism, rather than these things coming out of NOT accepting the basics of progressive identity politics, because it's extremely turbo-rare for anyone to not identify as a man or a woman and the best examples they can come up with is when that notion is imposed on them by the culture for unPC reasons.
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>>134563161
Trannies commit suicide because they know they've basically mutilated and destroyed their own bodies and are masquerading around as something they're not.

Women hit "the wall" in their 30's. They're not as attractive as those young girls anymore. Well, "the wall" is even worse for trannies - they start balding, the wrinkles show up, the fat piles on, they still have all those mannish features and traits - they still have a male musculoskeletal system. Every passing day they get less and less and less attention. They're not a young 'cute' trap anymore. They're wrinkly and ugly.

A lot of them have immediate regrets the moment after they've irreversibly chopped their dick off. They don't fully realize they're not getting an actual vagina, they're getting an open wound that will kind of heal into a vagina shape.

And they can't go back. Once it's off, that's it. They're committed, or they're taking an exit bag. No amount of hormones will give them their dick back or let them live a normal life as a normal guy doing normal guy things.

This transgenderism is one of the worst things I've ever seen the medical industry allow. It is a prime example of how sick our society has become.
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>>134566179
An indistingguishable blob of flesh you couldn't even identify as human at best.
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If it has a y chromosome, it's a man. no exceptions.

It can be fertile, underdeveloped, have little to no testosterone, have physical/mental problem, etc. etc.

But at the end of the day, it's a man.
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>>134566179
probably wouldnt make it past very early embryo stages in the womb.

Y chromosome only contains a few scattered genes that arent necessary, but X has multiple necessary for metabolism and development
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>>134565755
Anyone

You'd get a lot of scientists who'd do the research on their own dime, or publish old findings that they otherwise couldn't because of the negative impact to their careers.
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>>134566179
X chromosome contains tons of essential genes for development. Y is purely for sexual differentiation. Therefore, no X chromosome means no development into anything recognizable as human.
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>>134566179

yy cannot even exist naturally. y comes from male gamete and female gametes are always x. For a child to develop from a zygote, it must be xx or xy
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>>134566452
Nice hardline stance you got there, science man
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>>134566618
xxy's and xy's (see my posts above) can be fertile females, which would make yy combination theoretically possible. That said, without necessary X chromosome genes, the thing would probably die out before the woman even realized she was pregnant.

That said,
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>>134560926
There are two sexes, and then there are 1-in-a-million genetic mutations where people get extra chromosomes. These aren't extra genders, they're deformities that have anywhere from mild to extreme negative effects on health and well-being.
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>>134566881
I suppose it doesnt really matter if there's 2 or 22 sexes/genders.

At the end of the day you can produce viable sperm, viable eggs, or neither. Biology doesn't give a fuck about anything else.
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>>134564195
Y is only available from the father.
YY would just be a fucked up sperm.
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>>134566262
Is it really? Isn't gender directly linked to sex and is basically the common characteristics. Like a man having broadened shoulders, tough bones, heavy voice and all. Now not everyone might fit into them ,but that's not a problem since gender isn't absolute, however it is true for the majority in the given sex
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>>134567337
So I don't have to explain again, I'll invite you to look at my other posts friend.

It actually is possible, albeit incredibly uncommon, for a pheotypic, fertile female to have a Y chromosome. The singer Ciara is actually an example of such.
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>>134566851
Klinefelter syndrome is the set of symptoms that result from two or more X chromosomes in males.[2] The primary feature is sterility.[2]
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>>134564680
>LGBTQS
I thought it was SLGBTQ
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>>134567777
check'd

Yep having abnormal chromosome counts usually makes you sterile. "Sterility" isn't actually binary though, it just means the probability of you producing viable gametes is below a certain threshold

There absolutely are cases where XXY + XX or xxy + XY can produce offspring
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>>134567738
>Ciara is an example
No she isnt. You're making shit up at this point.
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>>134566881
I wish we didn't have to be so cut and dry about it honestly, sexual dimorphism is an interesting biological phenomenon with a lot of facets to explore.
Unfortunately the retarded masses and Jews controlling them will take any inch of flexibility and turn it into a mile of misinformed degeneracy.
It's sad but some people just can't handle knowledge. Maybe at some point in the future when we finally exterminate Jewry and have trustworthy men at the head of our science and information industries.
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>>134560926
Don't let the leftists trip you up by equating gender and sex. Gender is the social expectations that we make up so yes, if they wanna invent more """genders""" then they can. SEX is biology, they can't change that. However there are rare cases of people born with both sexes or between sexes so you could argue there are more than two sexes, but that's literally only due to rare genetic disorders
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>>134560926
(((science)))

cite something before 1990.
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>>134568094
googled it, turns out it was just a rumor. Oops

That said, it is possible (and expensive) to catch a child in early development an induce a barr body on the y chromosome to make it into a female. I had heard this is what occurred with her.
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>>134560926
>>134561477
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>>134561477
Baby, boy, girl, man, woman, possibly post menopausal woman. 5/6 genders based on biology, culture, sexual identity, and social roles. No, you don't get to identify as a different one. These are the genders if gender is separate from sex.
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>>134568094
Oh an it case that's calling me out saying im LARPing

T. masters in Biochem (dropped out of PhD program) from UC Berkeley
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2 primarily genders with the possibility of being a true or false hermaphrodite (intersex). I remember some kids being upset in my human sexuality class when the professor, who is like a 65 year old woman, said this. That was years ago, hopefully she retires before SJWs get her fired for feelings.

Anything past this is unscientific hogwash and won't line up with any medical courses, if you happen to be going into one of those fields.
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>>134568463
>UC Berkeley
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Here is proof of two genders.

What type of genitalia do humans carry? Penis and a vagina (or a variation of the two).

How can two humans create another human? With a penis and a vagina.

What do you need to make a human? A sperm and an egg.

Who carries the sperm and who carries the egg?

1+1=2!
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>>134568463
Nice degree you don't have.
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>>134568675
>Anything past this is unscientific hogwash and won't line up with any medical courses, if you happen to be going into one of those fields.

Not when (((they))) are finished.
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>>134568180
To be fair, gender roles are not simple social fabrications but rather the social emanation of biological sex.
Kind of like how culture comes from race. Both are discrete concepts but both are deeply connected and probably impossible to fully separate.
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>>134568870
I almost just took a picture of my diploma on the wall... then decided idgaf

Take what I've said how you want. I haven't made any shit up.
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>>134569040
>After devoting himself to activism, Kameny never held a paid job again and was supported by friends and family for the rest of his life.
(((Sounds))) familiar
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>>134568682
Top STEM school.

t. BS MS engineering... gobears
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The best study against 28464916 genders is called real life. What trans people will go through to get their "natural" gender is sick in so many ways. But i'm sure you will find many studies that will tell you that there are plenty of feminin cocks that will fit in OPs ass. Also poo in a loo already, no matter the gender
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>>134569500
Let's get some cheeseboard and get a drink at the Graduate, friend hah
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>>134565546

Source on this? I'm curious
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There are three genders: masculine, feminine, and neutral. Also, gender is a linguistic term that only applies to words, not organisms. There are only two sexes then there are hermaphrodites which have both sets of sex organs (mostly lower organisms, but non-functional human hermaphrodites occur on extremely rare occasion) and there are other rare nonviable mutations.
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>>134564675
>The incision got infected and I had to "pack" the wound to keep it open for a week until I could see the surgeon again.
>this grinds my gears that they keep thinking this is ok.
Tells you exactly how little of a fuck they give.
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>>134570069
I got this, not the guy you were talking to though.
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>>134570591
guys look what comes up if you search for the actual studies

http://genderanalysis.net/2016/12/myth-pimozide-and-gender-dysphoria-gender-analysis/
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>>134560926
Genetic mutations are not a different genders/sexes. All of them are sterile, have severe health problems and are bellow 0.1% of the population.
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>>134571114
I mean literally a blog post between peer reviewed journals.
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>>134566179

YY is ULTRA MALE. I am YY and I Have more TEST than any and all of you BETA FAGGOTS comBINED!!!!
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Biological sex != gender
Gender is an entirely social construct. It still exists, but is subjective.
Biological sex is determined by chromosomes, but even then there are exceptions (XXY, hermephrodites etc)
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>>134571308
>Zinnia Jones
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>>134571114
I kept reading far beyond the point where it was obvious they were just a nutball tranny trying to dismiss things because they are more than 20 years old, and the mainstream media didnt cover it, and it didnt get any better.
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>>134571395
Only known picture of one
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>>134571454
>>134571114
The reason I said cite things before 1990 originally is because all psychological literature pre-1990 (when science actually was in the picture) says that gender dysphoria disappears in something like 95% of people by the time they reach their mid teens. Tom-boys just start being normal, and getting fucked by guys etc, and men snap out of it too, and compete for girls. Naturally, Jews cant have that when the white race needs to disappear.
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>>134571418
I don't care about transgenders, but I do read studies, and that's the first time that literally a blog post was the first result I've got. Fuck they push that agenda hard.
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I was just filling in federal government paperwork and they have the option for "other" - I got a glimpse of the options on the computer entry and saw "L3 Female impersonator" as a choice for the clerk and almost cracked up
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>>134571651
Interesting, I could see that. What about places like Thailand & Brazil though? Culture, genes?
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>>134565591
Its treated the same way body identity integrity disorders are treated. We dont cut them up no matter how much they want it, we use antipsychotic medication and they get better. Thats if you want to treat them. If you want them to suicide you approve sexchange.
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>>134571765
It's hard to find credible sources on this stuff. Anything not pushing the agenda is so buried.
Just looking up numbers I found that 0.3% of Americans identify as transgender. 1.2% are diagnosed schizophrenics. 20% of schizophrenics suffer from the delusion that they are the opposite gender. That comes out to roughly 800,000 diagnosed schizophrenics who believe they are the opposite gender, and 970,000 self-identified transgender people.
I don't know how much overlap there is between these diagnoses and self-reported transgenderism but the closeness of these numbers really makes you think.
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>>134560926
Look at your fathers penis and your mothers vagina. Now find something different that occurs naturally and isn't a mutation
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>>134566193
Some lady who was on the board of american pediatric assosciation said similar. For political reasons body dysmorphia was suddenly reclassed as a physical illness instead of a mental illness. Children were then given puberty blockers, doped up on hormones, then had their genitals amputated or cauterized.

She made a few good points:
1) children suffering body dysmorphia are usually really suffering depression and anxietey issues stemming from traumatic events. When treated for depression and anxietey they will almost always revert back to their biological binary gender.

2) it is ethically reprehensible for a doctor to remove a perfectly functional and healthy body part or organ. This is doubly so when all science points to hormone therapy and genital removal to not be effective treatments.

3) Delusion is refusing to believe what is true. If you have a penis and refuse to believe it belongs there that is not a bioligical illness. You were not born in the wrong body. You are delusional.

4) in adults treating the root cause of this delusion is far more effective than sex change operations, which typically only aggravate the condition.

5) true cases of tranny children are very very rare. In most cases witnessed by pediatricians since the tranny craze popped off the cause of the childs delusions are the parents insistence and support of the claim their child is "the wrong gender" placing a good portion of cases dangerously close to munchausen by proxy instead of true illness (a delusional disorder when parents insist their kids are sick and demand treatment for diseases they dont have, some even go so far as to poison or abuse their kids to mimic symptoms of the claimed disorder)
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>>134572703
Fair enough, but environment (as in exogenous hormones) & social gibs play their part too.
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>>134560926
>http://www.medicaldaily.com/challenging-gender-identity-biologists-say-gender-expands-across-spectrum-rather-323956

>The scientists discovered the XX and XY cells that differentiate between genders can actually behave in different ways. When scientists took a closer look, they found not all people have cells that contain the same set of genes. Instead, it’s more like a mosaic of different unevenly divided sex cells, which biologists have taken to calling “mosaicism.” Although it’s a rare condition that only affects about 1 in 15,000 people, it still leaves an unidentified population of society outside of the familiar dichotomy.

>1 in 15,000
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>>134573060
>You were not born in the wrong body. You are delusional.
Can it be both true? How about if a mother has twins one male one female. One twin gets absorbed early, the other lives. Absolutely impossible that there's some weird gender stuff?
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>>134560926
based on the questions you're asking, you don't understand how science works, but then you want hard answers from science
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>>134560926
Boys have a benis; girls have a bagina. On an unrelated note, respect for not hiding your pooey flag even though you had the option.
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>>134573096
Agreed. I'd say the discrepancy between schizo trans numbers and self-reported trans numbers almost entirely belong to environmentally induced transgenderism. Pushing this trans stuff onto people is like artificially inducing symptoms of a disease to make the disease more difficult to diagnose and treat.

A lot of progressive nonsense seems to follow the same pattern now that I think about it. I wonder if I've stumbled an aspect of (((their))) greater plan here.
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>if somebody is an alcholic you dont cure them with vodka.
>if somebody is a junkie you dont cure them with heroin.
>if somebody thinks their neighbors dog is ordering them to dismember their family you dont hand them an ax.
>if somebody is obese you dont cure them with cheeseburgers.

But If you have somehow become confused and deluded enough to think mutilating your genitals and oblitorating your body's natural endocrine system with hormones will make you happy we cure it by obliging their fantasy?
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>>134573060
It's bad enough in the case of adults but doing this kind of stuff to children is fucking unforgivable.
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>>134573981
Its called pop-psychology, and we already went through this with the now defunct school of thought regarding repressed memories.

In the 70's to the 80's a theory was floated that people pack away trauma into their subconscious and forget about it. This idea was latched onto in the media and hundreds of cases started popping up with mentally ill people and children accusing family and community members of gross sexual and violent abuse.

The psychologists would testify on behalf of their mentally incompetant patients and with zero corroborating evidence thousands of innocent people were thrown in prison essentially so psychologists and attention seekers could preen in the spotlight of the ensuing media circus.

This tranny shit is no different. There ARE really body dysmorphia sufferers. A very very very tiny amount of them. The rest are latching onto the pop-psychology and politicized psuedointellectuals surrounding the illness for attention and accolades.
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>>134573981
Worst are the mothers posting on social media how their toddler 'decided' he's transgender now.
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>>134575307
Children's concept of gender doesnt form until about 5 or 6. My 3 year old son asked me why he couldnt be a mommy when he grew up. That doesnt mean hes a tranny and I should drop everything and scramble for estrogen pills and a castration scalpel. It means hes a toddler and doesnt know where babies come from.

Anyone with toddlers who isnt retarded can tell you they have zero idea of how the world works and attributing adult reasoning to their behavior is stupid.

When I was 4 I put on my moms lipstick and ran around in highheels imitating her mannerisms. Not because I was desperatley wishing to be a woman. It was because I was 4 fucking years old and imitating shit you see your parents do is normal.

Then my mom, like a sane and rational parent explained those were girls clothes, took em back, gave me my dad's workboots and leather jacket, and I spent the rest of the day clomping about the backyard repeating things I'd heard my dad say.

Kids are almost infiniteley malleable. Encouraging abnormal behavior in childhood then stepping back and declaring it was the kids choice is just plain abusive. Thats just teaching the kid a false sense of reality then using its wrong behavior to get attention for yourself.
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>>134576271
Yeah hard to imagine how parents like that can look at themselves in the mirror. Petty, and I don't know what would be worse, actually thinking that your toddler is transgender, or knowing you're full of shit and still going through with it.
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>>134560926
There's only sperm and egg.
This is sufficient for reproduction to continue the species.
Continuation of the species is the meaning of life.
If you don't reproduce your life had no meaning and you were a failure.
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>>134576755
Its just like I mentioned earlier with the "repressed memories" fiasco. Theyre convinced they are on "the right side of history." They use circular logic to delude themselves into thinking theyre doing the kids a favor.

Im a parent.
Parents are supposed to want whats best for thier kids.
Therefore what Im doing is in my kids best interest.

In a few decades you mark my words. A long string of high profile suicides and people coming forwards in mental breakdowns will explode. All these kids whose parents nuetered them and fucked their body's health over for life will be popping up as adults with huge problems.

This little pop-psych fad will become a massive fuckin trainwreck and people will be calling for the current proponents blood over it.
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>>134576822
Say someone dedicates their life to develop stem cell medicine, and restores the quality of life for generations of amputees to come, but no kids. Would that be still a failure of a life?
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>>134573060
do you know the lady's name? Or where I can find out more about the points you are talking about?
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>>134576822
That is true of high r species, but we are a high K species.
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>>134560926
Remember that the term bisexual implies that only two genders exist.
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>>134578048
https://www.acpeds.org/the-college-speaks/position-statements/gender-ideology-harms-children
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>>134560926
There is one gender, Cosmic Cock. There are two sexes, XY and XX. The former has a head start so he is expected to more fully embody Cosmic Cock. An XX who is *really* competent--not at a lower XX standard--is accepted as one of the boys, a real active force in human affairs, because she has proven herself. Most XXs can only ever hope to wield Cosmic Cock through her husband and male relatives. An XY who acts like an XX has shown disrespect for Cosmic Cock and is disrespected in turn. That's the whole thing from where I'm standing.
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>>134560926
Consider the trap. Its sex is male, but it appears female.
Out social constructs say that there are two gender roles, one filled by a male, one by a female.
If a male starts filling in for female gender roles and vice versa, we need to either redefine our social constructs or concede that there exist multiple gender roles.
Current thinking is that gender can exist on a spectrum of male to female, much the same as sexuality. I don't necessarily like it but I do agree that it seems to be the case.
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>>134580199
Thing 1: being a woman

Thing 2: pretending to be a woman

This is easy, man. How did you get confused by something so easy?

People pretend to be all sorts of things they're not.

Undercover cops are not transcriminals. Halloween involves no transskeletons.
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>>134580199
>If a male starts filling in for female gender roles and vice versa, we need to either redefine our social constructs or concede that there exist multiple gender roles.
I think a bit more is required to justify such an upheaval.
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>>134560926
They only are 2 genders. People that has problem with that are mentally ill.
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>>134560926
By gender they mean gender roles, which really is a social construct. But sex is a different thing, there are only two sexes: female and male. Those shitty XXY chromosome mutations are rarities, and obviously anomalies.
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>>134583553

This
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>>134563161
That's the most disgusting thing I've ever read and I've been here since 2006. Think I'm gonna have nightmares about that shit
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>>134563196
Other animal species reproductive methods all center around male/female or asexual reproduction.

Parthenogenisis: there is no male involved, the offspring are basically clones of the parent. This is usually only found in insects and crustaceans.


Parabiotic reproduction: the male attaches to the female parsitically and fuses with her body essentially just becoming a sperm bank for producing babies. This is only found in deep sea fish and cephalopods.
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