Do you know any liberals who have become conservatives recently?

>>134560669
Myself

>>134560762
What made you change

>>134560762
Also my parents. It pretty much came naturally when they received notification that their monthly health premiums were substantially increasing last summer. >>134560762

>>134560669
I used to be a marxist until like two years ago, if that counts as recent

>>134560929
Graduated college, got a real job, bought a house, realized how much I'm actually taxed and, thru my line of work, saw how much money was going to governemental HUD programs that we're essentially black holes for funding which makes me 99% sure that every other government program is the same way.

>>134560669
One of my good friends was liberal his whole life and changed during the election. He was going to vote for Hillary and ended up not voting at all. He's not a conservative (yet) but he won't vote for Democrats anymore.

Me, when i stopped being a teenager.

>>134561249
this desu senpai

>>134561155
what line of work

>>134560669
Yeah, actually, a few. Then there are a lot of people who don't really count as conservative yet, but who are abandoning left.

>>134560669
My feminist, woman's study minor wife

>>134561390
Audit and Accounting. We have a client that is a government funded HUD company that requires an audit every year. Literally hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars are granted to this one company each year for rent subsidies, mortgage assistance, and restoration services in the shittiest of neighborhoods around here that have no hope of being revitalized because of nigs. It's like they're getting rewarded for degeneracy.

>>134561831
I think a lot of normies, for a lack of a better term, are defiantly abandoning the hard left. They are just sick of Marxist bullshit. But hey, its start.

>>134560669
if you sniff enough glue you're bound become conservative eventually

>>134560669
my parents
every time i visit they are one step further in the red-pill ladder

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>>134560669
Daily reminder that conservatism is an anti-white ideology and just a different form of liberalism. Either go full natsoc or stay home.

I guess I would count myself. Technically I still hold onto a couple of liberal beliefs like being pro-abortion, but I just can't side with the left due to their overwhelming focus on identity politics and that as a white man I'm apparently the devil. I just can't hate myself for being white despite what the media keeps saying, especially when every other race and culture is allowed to be proud, and as a descendant of German farmers who immigrated to America in the 1920s I'm tired of being lumped in with slavery and Nazi bullshit that has nothing to do with my heritage.

I think the real tipping point is seeing how the transgender things are being pushed onto kids now. While I believe the current batch of twenty-something trans people are just sad depressive fucks who have been failed by society, at the end of the day it's still a choice made by an adult. When you start pumping a child full of hormones because they played with a doll or wore a dress once is when you go too far. We barely trust kids to watch themselves at home, so I don't know why we're letting them pick their gender identity now.

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>>134560669

I was never THAT liberal, I always hated sjw's and feminists but I was definitely left, now I consider myself far right.

What made me change was a couple things, I think three really

1) I had depression for years, I don't know if I've beat it permanently but I'm a different person mentally than I was. When I decided to make a change and stop feeling so sorry for myself, I stopped playing video games, smoking weed, fapping etc. and when I did that, my opinions just started growing more right and when I started looking into it, reading right ideas and watching videos, it became clear to me the whole thing is heart vs head, the right seems to me a collection of more objective ideas, thinking, using facts and logic.

2) Feminism is a cancer and I don't want to be associated with fat, pink haired mongoloids.

3) I'm Irish and as such, I'm extremely patriotic. As any Irish person who knows the history of this country would be. I am for the preservation of my country's history and traditions, language, myths, music etc I've always felt that way but now I'm aware of the increasing threat of globalism, Muslims and Niggers.

basically, it all just clicked together.

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>last summer
>see guy I was really good friends with in high school for the first time in years
>we were both super liberal
>start talking about the US elections
>friend says "I-I don't know anon, but I like what I'm seeing here with T-T-T-Trump
>tfw

>>134562655
I feel ya, bud. I'm still holding onto the dream of a red pilled as fuck gen z. I want to see people like Anita Sarkeesian chased off into the hills by a bunch of centre/left/right teenagers.

>>134560669
>Do you know any liberals who have become conservatives recently?
Yes, but I don't trust them.

The only liberal turned conservative you can trust is one who admits he/she was completely wrong in their liberalism and is now embarrassed/ashamed of it.

The others will stab you in the back.

THAT is why I don't trust PJW.

>>134562322
>makes terrible joke
>flag
checks out

>>134562281
Have you read Catherine Austin Fitts (former HUD commissioner) on the black budget?
https://solari.com/blog/whats-up-with-the-black-budget/

>>134560669
My friend was liberal until he moved into a black neighborhood. I helped him move out and he couldn't stop talking shit about niggers.

This picture fucking infuriates me, because I can't even crack an offensive joke anymore without getting the equivalent to the look

>>134560669

I know of one who constantly preached the "le Muslims are peaceful hehe" meme.

He went as far as hanging out with muzzies with his girlfriend, you can guess how well that turned out.

His scrawny thin frame went to the ground and his girlfriend got fucked by a group of them after he was battered.

He went to the police and they wouldn't help since muzzies are protected class. He's done a 180 now and is no longer a lefty.

>>134561155
...every other government program is the same way.

They all are.

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>>134560669
>[
Isn't that the guy from Silicon Valley?

>>134562645
Delusional.

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>>134563304
>tfw when your liberal fantasies are shattered in a Bronson-esque fashion

Best friend. Thank fuck.

Would start to lean towards progressive ideals a few years ago. Trump-Clinton election changed him, is becoming more and more redpilled.

>>134560669
I was liberal, but always supported gun rights and hated pretentious wine-sniffing types. Never actually paid attention to politics, but as soon as I did and when I started learning more about Banking/Finance it didn't take long before I was 1488.

>>134560669
Most of my far left friends have become libertarians recently. Not conservative, but libertarian. It's a change.

My closest friend was. He wasn't super leftist. But he claimed to be 'omni-theist' and was pretty egalitarian, but the annoying kind.

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>>134563332
lolbergtarian alert

>>134563165
but I'm not joking

>>134563304
haha sounds like a stupid asshole

>>134564226
I'd kick his ass for allowing his girlfriend to get culturally enriched. Piece of fucking shit

>>134563194
lol, I read this while listening to Coon Town

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E0q76UJY6U

>>134560669
I know an ugly commie chick who I message when I'm pissed and recently just flat out asked why people like her love Pakis so much. She admitted she hates them and has no idea why we keep bringing them here. But of course she won't say that to her comrades, only FUCK DA TORIES N THATCHA MILK SNATCHER DRUMPFFFF REEEEEEEEE. Sad!

>>134560669
The whole anti-Russia hysteria drove me off Liberalism.

>>134563779
That's step 1. Step 2 comes when you realize that laissez faire doesn't always work out.

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>>134564598
sever all contact with spineless scum

>>134564352
her fault for dating such a naive faggot

>>134564598
You have to redpill her, now is the time to strike.

>>134560669
I mean Laci Green went from SJW to full-blown fashy white supremacist recently, so there's that.

>>134563779
Same thing here actually. I am included in that group. I honestly think libertarianism might have a chance at this point because it's getting a surge of support and not just in America, countries like Australia and the UK which aren't countries with a history of libertarian traditions are experiencing their own libertarian/minarchist movements

>>134560669
>thinks liberals and conservatives are actual things and not memes
>unironically posting this on /pol/

yeah if you could just stop posting that'd be great

>>134563304
Did she enjoy le muslim cock?

>>134564941
you know how self-obsessed women are, she won't risk losing the group she belongs to

>>134564598
There's a pretty large amount of people like that, who'll espouse liberal views to satisfy their friend group but are secretly conservative. I do that in my area of London, since liberals take any expression of conservatism as an opportunity to "debate"/yell at you.

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>>134560669
My father and I.
Not recently though, feel like its been in the works for years. For him, it could've been the obamacare shit a couple of years back when he had to pay more for arguably inferior insurance.
For me, it was lurking /pol/ and military service.

>>134564352

Why dont you fuck her? Steal her right away, poison her mind against this retarded cuck. He deserves everything bad, mke sure to make him kill himself.

Liberal radical centrist here. Like smoke weed, let gays marry, shoot guns, offend anyone you want and refuse to make gay cakes liberal.
I get called far right conservative all the time. Which is sorta true as I do want to conserve liberty. But labels are fucking useless because no one agrees on what they mean.

I red-pilled my dirty millennial brother

>>134565121
>falls for 'it's all the same' newfag meme

>>134566123
Good. Now kill him for his faggotry.

>>134560669
My buddy who got Bern'd by Bernie almost sexualy identifies as an attack helicopter at this point. The moment he began to realize democracy was a failed system I pointed him to Hoppe. It's been fun to watch and push him towards physical removal.

>>134560669
Me.

>>134563944
We know you're not joking EU. That's what makes you so funny.

was a syndicalist as a young teen
then a I realised people are too stupid and greedy for a system like that to work
now I beleive in authoritarian centrist isolationism

>>134560669
I was a green party socialist till last year. It's really a simple transition.

>"Everyone is the same. I'm going to use statistics to disprove Islamophobes.
>Holy fuck what is this

>>134562744
My family is from Scotland - with a little Irish intermingling.
When I realized that the the motherland is being invaded by Africans and Pakis I was horrified.
I don't want to see it become Africa.
It's only in spirit, but you have my support.

>>134566890
Racial realism is one hell of a red pil

>>134566890
You learned no one fears Islam, we just want it to fuck off from the west till it goes through massive reform or secularizes

>>134560669
That is the ugliest person I've ever seen.

>>134560669
I know a lot of people who won't give up the title liberal, but they are ready to oust hillary style identity politics from the democratic party. they still accept black identity politics but consider that the only group with a legitimate claim.

>>134567034
Fuck that, even without Islam there is a massive discrepancy in aptitude and overall society cohesion. Keep our countries europan and functional.

>>134567317
I mean completely fuck off, not a single one
Some would say a small few would be fine, but fuck no, not one till they fix their shit
all the half decent ones just stay in their own countries anyway, our politicians are turning our countries into their garbage dumps
tourism at most only, same goes for any other peoples

Good friend had a kid and that helped him see life differently.

I somehow never ended up as a retarded faggot, and the more I live the more I hate my species. I am nowhere near figuring shit out, but the majority of people I know personally who have a great grasp on living as a human, are on our side.

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>>134567013
That it is, anon. My old bus stop getting truck of toleranced shattered any remnants of leftism I had.

I haven't lost my compassion, but I'm firm on what I believe in now.

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>>134567857
I've always wondered if that picardia was merkel's true end game, considering east germany was who tried to keep up german military tradition

I'm a senior in high school and have five very close friends. None of them are super into politics, but I knew four of them were conservative. The other was more of a centrist; her family is German, and her father and older brother support the German "social free market" system. Her stepmother is very liberal; she unironically said "girl power!" when my friend asked why she was voting for Hillary. Her stepmother is also a New Age "Christian," which is to say, not really a Christian at all. Her "church" is a "center for spiritual learning" or whatever where they have hugfests and yoga classes and all that uber-positive postmodernist bullshit.

When I was a freshman and sophomore, I went through a phase where I was very ardently anti-feminist (I'm still against feminism, but I'm not as vocal about it now). Through this phase, I redpilled my friends about feminism, including my centrist friend. This was the beginning for her.

Since then, we tag each other in cringey feminist posts while saying "cancer" and so on, so I know she's solid on that. I've also turned her into an economic conservative by telling her that taxation is theft (inb4 dumb ancap; I'm a libertarian who supports other taxes, just not income and similar taxes), and when she began working and saw how much money was taken out of her paycheck, she realized that the state is much too big and oversteps its boundaries.

Since she's German and her mother's parents live in Germany (in the town where there was an axe attack last year), I've also redpilled her on "refugees" and economic migrants. I don't think she grasps the full extent of the problem, but she knows what's going on because I send her links to stories about how Germans are literally minorities in some of their own cities and how it's only going to get worse.

I've still got a ways to go, but I once said to her, "Sometimes I unironically wish Hitler had won WWII," and she said "same," so I think she's pretty good for now.

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>>134568376
your friends mother sounds manipulative and retarded
she has all the signs

>>134561155
this is why college kids are liberal and mid aged to older people are conservative.

>>134568456
I know, why should America focus on its own problems, instead of honoring our greatest ally Israel.

>>134560669
Me. Never was I at any point a lunatic progressive sjw or anything, but it was just *assumed* that I was a liberal, because for whatever reason, it's just something that is assumed in society. So I thought I was a liberal and that conservatives where just dumb or ignorant. I don't understand how Canadians can be so liberal though, half our fucking salary goes to the government, getting a doctor appointment for certain things literally takes several months, and our infrastructure is a fucking embarrassment. Meanwhile, welfare recipients live better than most people in my native country.

The irony is that I started to flirt with conservatism through Trump videos that normies shared on facebook, videos meant to show how pathetic and disgusting he was. First few times listening to him I just thought: "What are these people on about? This guy is unironically funny." And I literally watched all his videos because I thought he was entertaining. Then I started to look at the content, trying to understand why his words where SO controversial. Then I discovered other conservative personalities and talking points through youtube recommended/related videos, and at some point it just all clicked, I realized that today's liberalism is a mental disorder.

>>134568827
STOP MISUSING LIBERAL
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Liberal is still shit because they want the freedom to do wrong

>>134569206
you lost the semantics war a long time ago, anon.

>>134569646
I know but the modern use of that word makes me feel autistic rage

Only me really, but it was about a year ago. Two years ago, I wasn't interested in politics at all. A year and a half ago I was a social Democrat, mainly because I was stupid and wanted free tuition. After the Primaries happened and I found out about the gerrymandering by Hillary, I started to lean ever so to the right. Around this time I checked out this website, never left, and eventually made my way snugly into a Libertarian mindset, and don't plan to leave it any time soon.

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I'm a conservative that became Liberal. ask me anything.

I would say yes but I don't know myself anymore.

>>134568944
I was like this too. I thought that I was a liberal because I didn't believe in Jesus and I didn't hate people based on their groups, but I always had views that were sensible and functional while everyone around me just spoke their wishes out loud as if that constitutes a political belief. It took me a long time to realize I wasn't a liberal because liberals literally ignore reality if it isn't comfy and then just re-assert that monkeys can be doctors and money should be free, without even addressing arguments.

>>134560669
Not any who did a 180° and became conservative, but a few who switched from talking about nothing to politics to immediately ejecting from any discussion where politics are mentioned.
They've just poisoned their own reputation too much in that area, they'll never be taken seriously again when it comes to politics by anyone who listened to them before that change.

>>134560669

Me, myself and I.

>>134561155
>>134563332

What bugs me here is that's a problem with government, not the taxing model per se. Americans are taxed on par with a scandinavian socialist paradise, but our government is so fucking incompetent and corrupt that all that money is funneled to corporations without the public seeing a dime of it spent on our national welfare.

Like did you guys know we've ALREADY PAID for cable companies to give us high speed, fiber optic, Internet infrastructure across the United States?
http://newnetworks.com/ShortSCANDALSummary.htm

The bizarre disconnect is that you and your families respond to this fucked up situation by voting for the party that helps facilitate it. When you should be voting for people who want to destroy lobbyists and get regulations on corporations and penalties to have fucking teeth, not to mention hold public officials accountable when they make decisions ignoring public interest in favor of corporations.

>>134562281
Imagine all the money given to NGOs overseas too.

My best friend was raised in a liberal/Democrat house.

Loved the shit out of family guy style atheism, and the daily show.

Then he joined the Military, saw some real shit, and now is pretty much a conservative.

Keep in mind, my definition of Conservative is "Someone who is no longer willfully naive".

>>134563174
Aliens. lolmao. More heat than light.

>>134572475
>"Someone who is no longer willfully naive"

That's ironic, considering the ongoing situation with Trump.

>>134563304

Remind him constantly and twist the knife more so his hatred grows.

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>>134571415

KYS thot

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I've been pushed to the right by the left

What the fuck did you expect?

>>134566890
Reality is a tireless opponent.

Keep in mind, liberal in most of Europe is not at all the same as a liberal in the US.

In a lot of European countries, the liberal parties are center-right or sometimes even considered far-right (in terms of economics, not social policy).

In Norway, the Liberal Party is considered to be the most right-leaning party in pure economical terms, because of their opposition to unions, and they are described as "extreme" in their belief in the free market. In Denmark, the party "Liberal Alliance" is as close as you get to a European libertarian party.

While these parties are pro-whatever-pol-deems-degeneracy, they also hate SJWs and are avid supporters of free speech. The liberals of Norway has time and time again been crowned the champions of free speech.

A lot of these parties are liberal on EU immigration, and are in favor of more lax immigration laws, BUT they absolutely hate religion and often wants to defund it or cut benefits before opening borders.

>>134572849
How is that even possible in this current political climate?

Did you have an aneurysm and decide that stripping healthcare from millions of Americans was a good idea? Either morally or fiscally? Maybe you woke up one day and realized you were a sleeper agent for a country with a life expectancy a decade less than ours, and that you actually hate this country. Maybe you just want to ignore climate science and think climate change is a hoax, despite relying on that same science to get weekly updates on weather and the like.

Or maybe it's none of those, and you just want to deny woman access to contraceptives or abortion while simultaneously wanting to get rid of welfare support structures for unwanted children or teen mothers.

Maybe you think public education is an abomination, and want public tax dollars funneled into charter and private schools that aren't held accountable to any educational standard. Maybe you hate national parks, or public owned utilities or property in general, and would prefer if a corporation owned the highways you drove on so you could be tolled by them every day.

Seriously though. On what issue did the left force you to the right?

>>134571257
As I understand it, the Republicans gerrymander worse. It's part of the reason they're in power.

>>134572475
That's a bad definition.

A conservative leans towards protecting ways of life, and a liberal leans towards a permissive society where new things can be tried out.

You can be willfully naive about which new things should be tried out (liberal idiocy like unlimited immigration) or about which things should be conserved (conservative idiocy like keeping capitalism pure by getting rid of the regulations that keep companies from selling you cheap crap or poison)

>>134560669
Dave Rubin

>>134573672

For me personally it was seeing faggots like you miserable

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>>134571415
>ask me anything
how fast can you fuck off back to plebbit?

>>134572127
What I don't get is, where did that money go? I mean even giving a few billion as bonuses, did stockholders get it all? Was that company privately owned and it's all in Switzerland? Fucking madness.

That story would make anyone be a small-government person if anything could

Me.

There many reasons why I abandoned liberalism, but I'll summarize by saying that I felt betrayed. Saying they're a joke is an understatement. No matter what party or movement they huddle under, they can escape or erase their hypocrisy.

>>134573672
Forgot your flag

>>134573672
No-one's denying them that, they're just making them pay for it themselves.

'Rights' are really, /other people's money/.

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>>134573672
>weekly weather updates is the same as comparing climate data over thousands of years to current weather patterns

hmmmm

>>134560669
Yes. Many such cases.
It is called maturing.

jesus stop putting yourselves, we already know you dropped leftism if you browsed /pol/ stop stating the obvious and telling your boring life story, nobody cares

>>134573929
Ah, the "petulant child" ideology, the most primitive and bankrupt of political theories.

Pretty sure there's a shitton of countries in the Middle East and Africa where that's the prevailing train of political thought. Hell, they even engage in tribal genocide between fucking their sisters and cousins. Should be right up your alley.

There, you wouldn't even need to maintain the facade of being civilized, you savage nigger you.

>>134574244
*they can't

>>134574362
>tfw don't want fucking healthcare
>tfw turned 26 and forced to pay for it anyway

Good system, I love having no money because of the off chance I get into an accident which will cost me money. I like that I have to pay a certain few thousands of dollars that I can't afford before health insurance begins paying for me. Instead of tens of thousands in debt I'd only be thousands in debt, so comforting.

>>134574378
Personally, I enjoy hearing other people put themselves.

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>>134574382
>tfw not able to legally kill white liberals

>>134562322
Lmao if you ment to look totally retarded well done

>>134573672
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgpa7wEAz7I

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>>134573672
And yet, reread your post, and now ask yourself - for how long can manipulative language and behavior have its place in a man's heart? Surely it must come with a deadline, the turning point where he says "no more" and begins to wonder what other things he supposes he knows are based on falsehood and dishonesty as well.

And should he so do all those things, what strange new thoughts might he come to discover?

>>134560993
what drove you to marxism? and how did you become a fascist in 2 years?

>>134574014
Probably used for bonuses and subsidizing other business ventures. Sure as hell wasn't used to update our Internet infrastructure.

>That story would make anyone be a small-government person if anything could

That's the weird trick by the Republican party though. They corrupt and make our government dysfunctional and then turn to the public and say "Look! Government doesn't work!"

A democratic government is supposed to safeguard the people against both external and internal threats. Trust me, if you think corporations are bad now just remove any public oversight from them whatsoever, they'll destroy both our environment and our economy.

>>134560669
I'd punch this faggot fucking kike in xir Jew nose.

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>>134564977

I know lots of people who were just really pro gay marriage and now they want lower taxes now they are out of college

>>134560669

Me. Did it to counter the DNC's ridiculous level of corruption. Got red pilled that globalism is just another form of communism.

>>134573732
>as the democrats lie to me the Republicans are worse

You could spend literally ten seconds poking around to realize that's fucking bullshit. Democrats are salty as fuck over things like Texas redistricting in the early 2000s because up until that point they had controlled the state government and used their control to suppress the conservative majority in Texas and keep Democratic congressmen in power for decades longer. The un-gerrymandering of Texas was labeled as "Republicans gerrymandering Texas" because it resulted in Republicans gaining a good majority of congressional seats at a time when they already tended to win the lion's share of votes in Texas anyway.

Additionally the reason the south is "gerrymandered so bad i cri everytiem" is because in the 1990s Democrats said "you know what would help blacks get into congress? Districts where blacks are the majority of voters!". Now that those blacks have their own districts it's harder for Democrats to win in the districts that surround them which are mostly white.

However you'd have to be one stupid white fuck if you think there wouldn't be rioting in the streets if a bunch of white liberal pussies decided to merge black districts into white ones. What kind of dumbfuck white liberal doesn't understand that white liberals are no longer in charge of the Democratic party? Your day is done, you can't just eliminate 20 black districts in the hopes you start winning a few more districts in the South- they will fucking kill you.

Additionally you ignore states like Massachusetts, New York, Oregon etc. where Republicans are underrepresented- sometimes by a huge margin (in Mass there are ZERO Republicans in Congress, meaning the 30-40% of the state that is Rep is unrepresented)

So instead of going "da cnn tells me da republicans gerrymander!" try fucking thinking for yourself, you confederate-flagged faggot.

>>134574362
>>134574502
You realize you'd be paying a fraction what you are now if we had single payer?

What I don't think you fucks realize is that Republicans are taxing your money and giving it to corporations who then turn around and fuck you over twice.

Then when you're angry and upset they point the finger at the Democrats. "Hate the blue tribe! It's all their fault!"

I have a ton of friends who were moderate/slightly left leaning and are now full blown /pol/ tier right wingers because of the utter fucking lunacy of liberals today

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>>134573672
LIBERALS NEVER STOP DOUBLING DOWN

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A old hippy lady I knew who had adopted and raised a niglet just posted a documenting Reality link showing gory photos of the OJ Simpson crime scene on Facebook.

I think a redpill is working it's way through her mind.

>>134574792
Nobody is running on no business oversight
>That's the weird trick by the Republican party though. They corrupt and...
He who lives in glass houses

>>134571257
It doesn't help that I live in New Jersey, a state that wants New York Senpai to notice it. There are leftists everywhere, I even know of THREE FtM trans, one of whom I found out transitioned just yesterday. So I don't think I'll meet any like-minded people.

>>134573732
Please don't lump me with cuckservatives.

>>134573672
>Seriously though. On what issue did the left force you to the right?
Suppression of dissenting opinions

More specifically, the raw sanctimony and condescension Democrats toss at people who step out of line

>>134574604
>Kill the poor

What's sad is that I think a lot of conservatives want to do exactly this and think it would work.

Goddamn, billions of years of evolution and tens of thousands of civilization development and here we are. What was the fucking point if we just regress to barbarians? All because the smallest minded of us are being misled by sociopaths that care about nothing but their own welfare.

>>134560669
A bunch of my friends have been drifting right wing, mostly when it comes to fiscal/policy issues. Socially they're all still kinda center/left typical millenial, none are SJW tier.

>>134575112
>You realize you'd be paying a fraction what you are now if we had single payer?

How can you say that with a straight face when you've seen the bureaucratic bloat of the government in other public ventures?
Do you genuinely believe the government can come up with a more efficient system than the private market?

The US is too big for the federal government to function efficiently

>>134574698
>Surely it must come with a deadline, the turning point where he says "no more" and begins to wonder what other things he supposes he knows are based on falsehood and dishonesty as well.

You'd think, but then at least 30% of the American public still identify as Republican. Certain that Trump is a trueblood American, that their politicians care about them, that corporations are looking out for their interest, that climate change is a chinese hoax.

These people are fed a steady diet of bullshit, and when others try to point this out their masters crack the whip and scream "FAKE NEWS."

>>134572636
>>134573746

You know, you are both right. It is a bad definition for Conservatives.

I guess we need a term for someone who is no longer a lefty due to the naivety leaving them, but is not really a fit for the Republican/Conservatives either.

And I don't mean a ideological term like Libertarian. Need some sort of word or phrase for un-fucking your mind off liberalism.

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>used to be left leaning.
>CNN good. Fox bad. Immigrants good regardless of legal status
>your standard liberal fed public school taught American™
>graduate highschool and go to county community college
>it's in the deep hood. Way deep ghetto
>corner of Martin Luther King Jr drive and Main Ave
>I'm a minority here. (White)
>see loads of nigs and overall nigotry
>graduate jaded as fuck. No longer trust TV news outlets because of all the fucked up shit I've seen never even get mentioned
>started getting my news from ZeroHedge, GatewayPundit when coworker would send me links.
>become more and more right wing
>so right wing leaning after the "migrant" crisis hit that I'm surprised I don't walk funny
>personal life changed as well. No longer put myself in debt. I always pay my dues. I save my money
>was going to go to abroad for some garbage bachelor's degree, decided against it and saved my money for my house
>already looking at land in Kentucky or Alabama to get out of my blue blood hell. (New Jersey)

Experience is one hell of a drug. I'm only 25. Have lost many friends and gained others because of how I started looking at life differently.

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>>134575908
It's called a conservative
Liberals like to whine about corporate abuse, but won't raise a finger if their own enrich themselves at the behalf of corporations

The answer for them is new laws and new regulations when current ones aren't even being observed

>>134575908
"Centrist"
Being centrist today seems pretty conservative compared to the Marxist bullshit we are fed through media, though a centrist isn't actually a conservative
I think it's the term you were looking for

>>134575254
>nobody is running on no business oversight

Could have fooled me, pretty sure ex-Verizon employee "Chairman Pai" has just decided net neutrality regulations are bad for busi- I mean the public.

Otherwise you think I don't know a lot of Democrat politicians are nearly as bad? That being said I don't think the Democrats could hold a flame to what the Republicans have become, that party has become devoid of any integrity and is no longer beholden to the public good. They just spout whatever they can to keep their beguiled base enraptured.

>>134575454
>Suppression of dissenting opinions
>More specifically, the raw sanctimony and condescension Democrats toss at people who step out of line

Is this a joke? Or should I just scream "FAKE NEWS" at you until you can appreciate the irony?

>>134560669
>>134560762
Me too.

Well, not QUITE. I had some Liberal views, but because I put gun ownership as a priority above almost all else, I've identified as and voted Conservative for many years now. I used to be very pro-Islam, in part due to complete ignorance of the teachings of the Quran, complete ignorance of what Sharia Law entails, and also because I went to College where I studied in groups that included some Muslims. I also used to take cabs a lot, and the vast majority of the time the cab driver was non-Caucasian and non-Asian. Wasn't uncommon for qurans and such to be present either. In fact I remember years ago that Muslims were petitioning in the UK for Sharia Law, and my thought was "why not? Go for it, let them have their law." I can even remember after the Orlando gay club shooting that I was talking to my father about it, he said Islam is a problem, and I said that extremism was the problem, not the religion.

Well I've learned what the Quran teaches, I've learned what Sharia Law is, and I've learned through studies and polls what the people in nations of Muslim-majority populations hold as their beliefs. Christians do not go by the extreme parts of the Bible, in part due to Jesus Christ himself going against the more barbaric parts of the Old Testament. Leviticus 20:13 says that men who lay with men should be put to death, and other passages nearby say that people should be stoned to death. Well, Jesus said "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" which DIRECTLY went against passages in the Old Testament that said whole communities should stone individuals who do certain offences.

tl;dr

Anyways, in short, I largely stopped my Liberal views upon educating myself. I was also pro-LGBT, still largely am, but I refuse to add Q or anything else to it, I won't use any non-binary pronouns, and the whole washroom debacle is ridiculous. Upon thinking "I am a woman", I as a cis male could walk right on into the women's washroom. Crazy.

>>134560669
Myself

>>134576305
>They just spout whatever they can to keep their beguiled base enraptured
Two scoops!
Russian lawyer!
Did you hear what Drumpf tweeted today?!

Go check CNN, they'll have something new to enrapture you, I'm sure

>>134575908
>redpilled

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>>134575520
>All because the smallest minded of us are being misled by sociopaths that care about nothing but their own welfare.
Nigger, this has been the case for literally every single moment of humanity. Human nature is hierarchical no matter how much you don't want it to be.

Pick your poison.

>>134560669
whats recently? within the past few years myself. me and another redpilled friend are slowly opening a friends eyes together. he seems to be taking the black pill though. seeing the world for what it really is can seem hopeless so i get it

>>134575803
>How can you say that with a straight face when you've seen the bureaucratic bloat of the government in other public ventures?
>Do you genuinely believe the government can come up with a more efficient system than the private market?

Because we have every other Anglo-Saxon western democracy as an example for how much cheaper and better their healthcare is by comparison? Single payer isn't some revolutionary concept never implemented before.

>The US is too big for the federal government to function efficiently

Really. Maybe our foreign enemies would like it better if we split ourselves up then?

We were doing fine for the first 200 years, there shouldn't be any reason we're incapable now.

>>134560669
Brother's wife. We've turned her from a democrat to a nazi.

>>134576523
Red-pilled implies you know about the JQ, it's another level

>>134576491
You remind me of me, I also used to think my father was a biggot and a sexist. Two years later I think of him as a liberal faggot on subjects such as immigration and Islam. He still is red-pilled on feminism though.

>>134576468
>should I just scream "FAKE NEWS" at you until you can appreciate the irony?
You're one to talk. The rise of the Republican party is directly tied to liberal media attempting to spread in places they weren't welcome
People got tired of your liberal bullshit and now they're calling out fake news when they see it

>>134576268
>Liberals like to whine about corporate abuse, but won't raise a finger if their own enrich themselves at the behalf of corporations

Could I get an example of this please?

>>134563903
life is hard anon, you need to work. you need to help your family out. have you no obligations? children working on their families farm or in their business is just fine.

>>134576867
>every other Anglo-Saxon western democracy
UK/Aus healthcare is underfunded and inadequate in a lot of respects, and their zone of coverage is much smaller than the US

I've seen enough of the government's attempts to offer public services to know that single payer would be a half-baked, overbloated and insufficient system

>>134576518
>Two scoops!
I still don't know where this meme came from.
>Russian lawyer!
Rob Goldstein, the person who set up the meeting with Trump, referred to her as a "Russian Government Laywer" in the emails. But I'm more interested in the VP of a real estate company heavily implicated in Russian money laundering attending.
>Did you hear what Drumpf tweeted today?!
He is our POTUS, our commander and chief. Why shouldn't Americans care about what he says?

A few FB friends who always posted liberal shite started to go quiet when I'd counter them sometimes. I like to think it's cos they changed their minds.

>>134577043
http://archive.is/LRekb
http://archive.is/LR5AA

>>134576867
>We were doing fine for the first 200 years, there shouldn't be any reason we're incapable now.

You mean that time we had a white voting majority and the closest thing to a welfare state was keeping the land of any Indian you killed?

I'm all for going back to that to be honest.

>>134577399
I see they've done well to keep you enraptured
Stay tuned, a new "controversy" should be on air shortly

>>134575112
>single payer
>that thing that Democrats didn't even want back in 2009

And now we see you're just baiting people.

>>134575520
Evolutionary, poor (=less evolved) are more prone to dying. Otherwise species will weaken and die out.

A guy that used to be one of my closest friends went from /pol/ to /leftypol/. He's still Christian and Environmentalist but he's gone insane about helping poor kids after working as a TA in some shitty school.

Redpilled my girlfriend. Feelsgoodman.

The process isn't 100% complete but she has turned against the gays (trannies made that easy) and knows about Jewish control and biological gender differences and abbo/african mental inferiority. She laughs when I say nigger although she's not ready to say it herself yet. Maybe it's not very feminine.

She has a rifle and wants kids now and finally felt brave enough to let her friends know she is pro-life even though it pissed them off. She feels guilty about using birth control and feels a responsibility to produce white children and raise them with an exposure to church.

>>134560669
Most of my white male friends. And even a few of the Asian ones.

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>>134560669
Me. Was left of center, fell for the media tricks, fell for the anti cop stuff, fell for cheaper universal healthcare. Then I was a Bern victim that saw a man who marched and was arrested for protesting civil rights be overtaken by two BLM niggers. Let me tell you that something clicked in me and I went on a crazy journey of research and books. I am now unironically on the verge of wanting full on national socialism after reading ancient literature and seeing nothing is new to put it bluntly.

I do, actually. Besides my mother anyway.

My best friend of some years who I very infrequently contact was talking about the migrant crises across the world saying that there's "no reason to be worried about Muslims" etc. I tried to take the middle-road and argue for both sides, he wasn't having any of it. Fast forward two months later, I call him again after pestering him to watch Jordan Peterson's Rogan podcast on Facebook endlessly, ask about it, turns out it sent him down a rabbit-hole of redpills on youtube, videos by Thomas Sowell especially blew his mind.

This kind of stuff is no doubt happening all over, but it's cool to see anyway. Frankly I'd be more interested to hear stories of conservatives going left.

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>>134566951

Sláinte

>>134576569
>Human nature is hierarchical no matter how much you don't want it to be.

The entire point of revolutions is when the oppressed majority are tired of taking shit from the minority.

Sure, "humans are hierarchical" in the same ways bloody revolutions are traditional. There's also a difference between a hierarchical system managed fairly and well, and one bloated with corruption.

Our government looks like some diseased corpse of its former splendor, many of my country's politicians viscerally disgust me in how transparently self-serving they are.

>>134560669
Well... I was nonpolitical at all. Thought it was all a waste of time.
But now I see I better step the fuck up or be destroyed. So I went far right.

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>>134574992
You missed the leaked video of her going 1488

>>134577277
Yes. That's why they have a higher average life expectancy and higher quality of life.

Because they don't work.

>>134577008
Yup, I told my old man "you might not be a racist since Islam is not a race, but I don't want to ever hear you say you're tolerant of other cultures and religions." Something faggoty like that. It was literally only a year ago or so that I said that shit. Wasn't too long before I found that I was wrong, and in recent months I've been actively studying the Quran. There's some fucked-up shit in that book. Lots of stuff about "don't take Jews and Christians as allies", "don't take non-believers as allies even if they're your father or brothers", "seek out Polytheists and kill them", "better to wed a slave than a Polytheist", "Jesus Christ and Mother Mary were deluded", "go to fight in the name of Allah", "if you refuse to fight in the name of Allah you will be punished with a painful punishment", "srsly u guyz, fite 4 Allah", etc.

Sure, the Bible has some questional bits, but Jesus Christ speaks out against some of the bad Old Testament stuff, and there's also the fact that modern Christians largely only focus on the good of the Bible. If Leviticus 20:13 was in the Quran, then Muslims would be actively seeking out homos so as to stone them, and in the west I'm sure MANY more gay night clubs would be attacked. The Quran needs a New Testament to speak out against terrorist attacks, there's no other way around it. That, or don't let new Muslims into western nations.

>>134577590
There are an awful lot of controversies plaguing the Trump administration, but I'm pretty sure that's by dint of the people composing the administration.

You shouldn't attribute facts as having agency.

>>134578325
>higher average life expectancy and higher quality of life
Any guesses as to who might be bringing down the US's stats? The answer might surprise you

>>134578227
Bloody revolutions are necessary evil from the evolutionary point of view. If oppressing minority slacks off and goes degenerate it is time to wipe them off. Otherwise species will not survive in the harsh wilderness.

>>134560669

Depends what you mean "recent'.

I stopped being a DemDrone in about 2011/2012 though.

>>134577555
Our country was arguably at its peak in global dominance after world war 2, under the likes of FDR and Eisenhower.

Trust me, I would love to go back to that United States of America.

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>>134560669
When I was 20 (some 15 years ago) I was a communist. I started to realize it was shit since all the spaniards communist I saw endorse ETA and learned some basic economics. But it was only a few years ago that I went first (kind of) libertarian/ancap and since two years ago just went full franquista .

>>134560669
I'm still oscillating between conservatism and liberalism desu, I blame my fedora for that.

>>134572816
thots are in your head.

>>134573945
I don't know what that is.

>>134578805

Janusian thinker. Use it to your advantage.

>>134577489
Oh, I misunderstood you.

I'm not happy with the obscene money either, in particular with Hillary, as I think it comes with strings attached.

But that's beside the point, you said:

>>134578805
Aew you by any chance Estonian?

>>134563903

>child not mentally competent to agree to understand and consent to employment contract.

>parents don't have the right to abuse a helpless child, which includes forcing him/her to consent to work contract.

>therefore child labor illegal (besides the typical reasonable non-abusive exemptions)

You are a fucking retard!

>>134577623
>that thing that Democrats didn't even want back in 2009

I have some issues with the Democrats, I won't lie, this is one of them.

What I find ironic is that Hillary actually tried to champion single payer once, and the current Obamacare was literally the Republican response to it. That the Democrats took the Republican plan, and the Republicans have decided we should have kept the old broken system, kind of serves to illustrate how political perspective has shifted in the country.

I blame the failure of the media for that.

>>134573672
The left claims to be pro-science yet they preach gender is a spectrum, you can be born gay, and "climate change."

>>134577828
You have to be bullshitting, or so mentally arrested that I'd suspect you to be exceptionally poor by your own bullshit metric.

>>134563304
This didn't happen. Stop LARPing faggot

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>>134578305
show me

>>134578571
The poor. So we should kill them all right? I mean, that's what the other anglo saxon countries must've done to raise their average life expectancies- right?

What kills me (pardon the pun) is that Americans are paying fucktons more for their insurance for less return on their benefits. Hell, a lot of people I know are working fulltime jobs but only get catastrophic coverage with a $3000 deductible.

What's weird is that there are people who somehow think this is better than the alternatives, despite the mounds of evidence to the contrary.

>>134560669
I feel like it's less that I became conservative and more than liberals became fucking crazy and refusing to accept how their ideas just got shown to be bad.

Conservatives have solid points that go unanswered in favor of smoke and mirrors about racism: the diminution of the nuclear family, the corrosive social and individual effects of welfare culture, the persistent crypto-communism of the far left, and the outrageous corruption of the left establishment.

Last fall. I was a pretty fervent liberal atheist, constantly checked the atheist blogs for transgressions. I voted for the bernmeister in the primaries. I think I got hooked by TheAmazingAtheist's anti-SJW videos, and I started hating SJWs. I knew Hillary was corrupt, but still wanted to vote for her over G.E.

For some reason the turning point was when HIllary fainted on 9/11. Suddenly I gave Trump a chance and saw how fun the fans were (It is true, T_D is for redpilling normies). I went full on conservative in a matter of weeks.

I am conservative now, but I have sort of blue and orange morality. Styx helped me realize spirituality was important again (It didn't help that I got a 666 post for mocking meme magic.)

Pretty boring, but hopefully it is an archetype of someone being redpilled.

>>134560669
Myself , as soon as I got my degree and a job.

>>134579701
>you can be born gay, and "climate change."

That is the weirdest non sequitur.

Otherwise I'm just going to throw this out there: the idea of binning things into discrete categories is a very artificial mental construct. Useful, very useful, but it ignores the subtleties of reality in favor of expediency.

I might call you human, for instance, but your DNA is 98% chimpanzee, and of that 98% some percentage is piscine, anthropod, and any number of "other" things. For every two integers there are literally an infinite number of decimals between them.

I'm going to try and keep this somewhat short, but I'm using this example of a very physical reality to try and underscore how subjective something like perceived sexuality is by comparison.

>>134560669

no, but I know a lot of moderates who are having massive cognitive dissonance with what they thought reality was up until november 8th, 2016

>>134574014
>That story would make anyone be a small-government person if anything could

Or make anyone want the state to have some enforcement power when a corporation takes state money for a specific use and then doesn't follow through. All the Tea Party tier arguments of "small government" do is make the state more vulnerable to exploitation by private interests.

>>134561155
Yep. Liberalism is almost always caused by lack of real experience.

Either you're so pretty that you've never had to lift a finger for yourself ( which applies especially to women, as they don't even have to be particularly pretty ) or you were born into wealth.

Once you've actually had to fight for your shit you're not going to be as keen on sharing said shit.

>>134563304
God I'm so jealous. Being violated like that in of your boyfriend. Muslims are so passionate and sexual that must have felt amazing.

>>134560669
Myself, I was a staunch liberal, turned my back after the election and seeing how liberal culture has gotten out of Control and especially living in California

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>>134572721
I like the cut of your jib

>>134560669

This cuck deserves to get hung by a pack of raging niggers.

>>134560669
I know a lot of liberals that will become conservatives come the next dem president.

>>134563259
I make jokes about killing niggers and niggers not being human and my friends find it funny. I wouldn't do those jokes in the outer circle of friends though, as most of them are harry potter fans (read: ultra shitlibs), or other circles
One of my closer friends even went to volunteer in africa, teaching little nigs maths.

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>>134578227
>The entire point of revolutions is when the oppressed majority are tired of taking shit from the minority.
This is such an oversimplified statement that I am thoroughly convinced that you are a young and incredibly naive and sheltered little white quasi-socialist, aren't you?

>There's also a difference between a hierarchical system managed fairly and well, and one bloated with corruption.
Gee. That took a lot of brain power to think up. No fucking shit.

>Our government looks like some diseased corpse of its former splendor, many of my country's politicians viscerally disgust me in how transparently self-serving they are.
Don't kid yourself, you'd be disappointed with any government or political class no matter the nation nor time period you lived in. You only have the luxury of being able to be so viciously disgusted with your government because of that very same government and all the systems that it entails, that allow you to sit on your fat ass and chitchat with people across the world without having to lift a finger.

The weak, feeble, and stupid are universally used by the superior or the cunning, always and for eternity.

>>134560669
I've redpilled some people myself I'm very good at arguing

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>>134583279
>I'm very good at arguing

>>134560669
Me

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Me. The left has gone insane, and needs to be put down for the good of us all.

>>134560669
Most Libs become conservative above the mental age of 15-16

>>134584627
Yup, I was a communist till 15 or 16. Then I was redpilled on the free market and everything moved right from there.

If those mudslime shits weren't fucking everything up in my life and elsewhere then I wouldn't have ever been even mildly conservative

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>>134560669
Saves as many as you can.

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>>134562655
Exact same thing for me, man.

>>134577101
he understands this.... but he is stating that AnCaps/Libertarians are completely blind to the moral affects of their so called philosophy. ...

PS it lacks that component.

No but I've realised alot of them coming to terms with the fact that they are wrong about things like immigration, they are starting to realise that the mainstream media is lying to then.

I've encountered them just putting their head down shamefully when I point out something that would usually send them into a full leftist mental gymnastics shit fit floor routine.

>>134581390
Im not even sure how to reply. You can be born gay? Please do share the science behind that.

>>134578305
Link?

>>134582488

lmao

this

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>>134573672
I'm a centrist now, I agree with both sides on different issues

But now I just unironically wanna see the world burn. Overpopulation and massive consumption is going to collapse us if we don't fight and cull the herd.

It's just math. Finite resources aka a lump of rock we call Earth = unsustainable.

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>>134574014
Will you go to Heaven when you die? Here’s a quick test: Have you ever lied, stolen, or used God’s name in vain? Jesus said,
“Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
If you have done these things, God sees you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart,
and the Bible warns that one day God will punish you in a terrible place called Hell.
But God is not willing that any should perish. Sinners broke God’s Law and Jesus paid their fine.
This means that God can legally dismiss their case:
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
Then Jesus rose from the dead, defeating death. Today, repent and trust Jesus, and God will give you eternal life as a free gift.
Then read the Bible daily and obey it. God will never fail you.

i used to be a conservative until i took the bogpill

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>>134576491
> tl;dr
gas redditors

I used to be liberal, until I realized liberalism and its attendant ideologies were the chief reason as to why society was so fucked up, degenerate, inefficient and incapable of meaningful achievement in the present age.

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>>134560669

yes I've gotten around 40 whites from NJ to turn from retarded liberals into Hitler loving Nazis. My club LARPs as a Conservative Club but really we are getting for the day of the rope.

>>134587331
You're way off base honey, don't fall for that overpopulation meme. The world can support hundreds of trillions of humans. The space is easily available and accessible. Farms and ranchea simply need to scale vertically into towers. And we need to get rid of nonwhites then everything will be fine.

>>134563944
Doesn't mean you AREN'T a joke though

>>134587510
Never been on Reddit before, "tl;dr" was popular on 4Chan around 5-10 years ago.

>>134575112
Do you realize single payer is crap? My mother waited 3 years for reconstruction surgery after a mastectomy. They wouldn't have found the cancer if she didn't go to a private hospital first and pay out of pocket for a biopsy.

>>134565618
This was me till I find some rw drinking buddies.

>>134562744
Burger here. Still have my grandmum's ticket from when she moved to the US nearly a century ago. Stay strong, Ireland. And get smart quick. Don't let that island take any more punishment

me

>>134573672
>Or maybe it's none of those, and you just want to deny woman access to contraceptives or abortion while simultaneously wanting to get rid of welfare support structures for unwanted children or teen mothers.
why wouldn't you do everything possible to discourage single motherhood it is a cancer on society

>>134562645
what is exactly wrong with nihilism. It's the truth. There isn't any hope left, every 2 months there is a terror attack. Do people morn? No, they'll hope to god it isn't or that it is a muslim who did it. Usually the later being true, however nothing changes. Thousands arrive on European shores daily. Taken in by your own navies. If the Military isn't opposed to this, and the government isn't gonna let you goys vote the refugees away. What're you gonna do? You can't overthrow the government. You guys gave away all of your weapons and now you gotta bin those spoons. Is it wrong to know that nothing is gonna change and we are all gonna be the last generation of whites?

>>134580354
We pay for the N.H.S in other ways , stealth taxes etc etc , then watch as wait times grow , operations are cancelled so on so forth largely due to immigration . Lefties will obviously blame low investment by the tories , but it was the same under labour .

Not really the same thing, but I went from a "socially liberal, fiscally conservative"/dude weed lmao/muh freedoms/anti-nationalist libertarian to a nationalist Hoppean paleolibertarian.

>>134576117
Good for you. I'm happy your life has changed for the better and you escaped from the mental prison that liberals promote.

>>134565121
This is an 18 and over board, anon.

>>134560669
I did.

>>134590163
Nihilism is a type of cowardice, defeatism. You haven't even tried and yet you say it's hopeless. You are just mentally weak.

>>134568641
She's not manipulative at all. She's a very sweet lady, very chipper and friendly to me and my friends whenever we come over. She's just brainwashed. My friend doesn't like her, partly because she's her stepmother and partly because their personalities are polar opposites, so she doesn't really bother trying to change her mind on anything.

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>>134560762


Same here. I'm so glad I got out of that cult of denial and stupidity.

I didn't believe that Leftism had gotten so out of hand until my best friend became vegan and a male feminist. Now I'm here.

>>134574992
>Left
>Libertarian

CHOOSE ONE

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>>134578825

Thirsty beta faggot detected

>>134560669
Me two years ago

>>134563115
PJW?

>>134572721
this.

>>134565982
but anon, how do you reconcile the fact that allowing the liberal socials tuff, like gays marrying and whatnot, empowers and validates groups that then force you to let mass amounts of muslims and niggers into your country, cuz "let them be. be free"

>>134593070
Very sad. In theory, their hearts are in the right place, but in reality the likelihood of those signs taking on more literal meaning has gone up substantially, in the case of him it's to get shot execution style, in her case it's to get a mouthful of Peg-D. If the refugees were Christian instead of Muslim and thus nowhere near as barbaric, then letting refugees into Europe probably wouldn't be such a big deal. Still an economic strain, if they decide to stay instead of go back it could make it even more difficult to find jobs, and so on and so forth, but at least the rate of rapes and terrorist attacks wouldn't increase much if at all.

A shame that the Muslims have to make it so damn difficult for us to help them. Caucasian Christians put out our hands to give, and we get them cut off by ungrateful Middle Eastern Muslims. No more of this 'extremist' bullshit, a huge number of them negatively affect western society in a variety of ways.

>>134590163
i don't care what you think we will prevail we will survive

>>134560669
When my own principle "mind your own fucking business" suddenly became associated with the right for some reason. I always thought it was a liberal thing.

>>134562322
Go away

>>134595920
The Americas was ethnically cleansed of once before. And Im not talking about native genocide. Rather what God made Red Man. Ask yourself if history repeats then think again what made White Man turn Red? The Sun!! Carpe Diem. We have hope in faith of our brotherhood. Yes we will burn since we have no lotions or exotic slaves to do our labor. The skin wont be blackened as we purge degenerates by day as they raid at night. Strength in numbers. Christian Zombies Rule, Sodomite Vampires Suck. The born again undead will consume those who prey on children and worship the night. This is why we believers walk in the Light. For we lead by faith and not by sight.

Call it some true poetic justice or karma but we shall inherit this land along with leafs as Europe falls back into chaos, Africans fall below wild animals without ammo for their euro manufactured guns. Middle East will keep killing each other in family fueds. Eastern Taoist gonna stay self serving nihilists and probably eat dog, monkey, cat, people, dog, etc... India is gonna POO In LOO... Because its too damn crowded hot and muggy to dig a latrine hole in that place.

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>>134560669
No, I have noticed that the typical left and right have both split though and people that were once close politically are now at each other's throats.

Left have split into Corbynites (read: Sanders) and Liberals/Ordoliberals (read: Clinton) whilst the right have split into Cameronite/Thatcherites (read: Bloomberg) and traditional conservatives (read: Farage, Rees-Mogg, there's no real US equivalent).

>>134560669

I had a really brainwashed mindset my whole life, but I think it was arround the time of the Paris Bataclan attacks, I started to browse /pol/. Since then I was slowly getting red pilled on all the subjects.

I never reveal my true thoughts to my friends or family because my society shuns republicans, but I'm full 1488 atm.

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Im trans and was always a democrat until about two years ago. But after seeing all these fucking special snowflakes that populate tumblr, reddit, and the internet and society in general, I no longer wish to associate with the left at all. They sicken me. They don't live in reality and just want to virtue signal for brownie points. Disgusting hairy obese men in pink skirts and rainbow socks and faggots with green hair and nose piercings have destroyed any and all discussion for actual transsexual people. We are excluded from all of our community and any spaces.

I cant even talk about hormones or haircuts without being banned for excluding non-binary monkeykins. I get banned for telling people to see a doctor instead of "deciding" they are transsexual. I get banned for telling people they aren't trans if they don't have gender dysphoria which is the deciding criteria for fucking being transsexual. Its like people are saying you dont need to have broken legs to go around in a wheelchair. They scream and piss on everything and ruin all discussion.

They treat me an actual transsexual like human fucking garbage and celebrate people with made up bullshit like non-binary or demiqueer which fucking means NOTHING. Its just a made up label anyone can assign themselves at any time with no evidence and no fucking reason for doing so. Its a meaningless fucking title of entitlement. They fucking scream nonfucking stop about how they are soooo oppressed when they have never EVER fucking faced any discrimination except participating in the discrimination against me. They are a fucking cult. It makes me so fucking mad. I wish they would all fucking die.

>>134587525
where in NJ?

>>134560669
>tfw you dropped the Holocaust bomb on 4 liberals
>tfw 2 of them now openly agree with you, 1 doesn't want to admit it and the other vehemently denies it, but the protest cant hide what you see in their eyes

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>>134598579

Yeah I'm fucking sick of Liberals acting like the supreme good guys who support "free speech", when yet you post something like "I support my president Donald Trump", they all flip out and call you a troll, like some piece of shit stuck under a boot. Or straight up delete your comments because a lot of forums don't condone trump supporters.

Pic related.

>>134560669

Conversion stories:

> ~2008/9
> Dreadlocked, skinny liberal stoner
> All the cliche views because I studied a humanities degree at a mediocre uni lead by lecturers who gave nudges towards how "Cool communism is"
> Everyone libshit, so no reason to question these views
> Unironically believed in open borders, socialism (Then again nowadays I am not adverse to natsoc), etc...
> However, secretly love getting stoned and going on 4chan
> Start seeing shit over the years about race realism, feminism etc...
> Eventually it makes me angry that this is happening
> Abandon my liberal roots, unlike all the liberal pages on Facebook
> Slowly move further right

> Long story short I hit the gym and beefed up, went back to uni to study geophysical engineering, got a QT gf who wants 3-4 kids.
> Feel like a totally different, better person.
> I'd fucking hate me back in 2008, if I met him, and I'm pretty sure he'd hate me back.
> Good fucking riddance

>>134598579
You shouldn't have cut your dick off, in most cases dysphoria goes away before your 50's and proper doctors, medication and support networks can ease the pain

>>134599487

Fucking brave m8, tell me how it went?

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>>134599617
I had some fucking non-binary faggot tell me the other day that they deleted my post because they said I was transphobic. I told someone that claimed to be male to female but didnt want breasts that he was just a crossdresser and not a transsexual because of that and that he should seek mental help. So they said I was being transphobic and that not all girls have breasts.

NOT ALL GIRLS HAVE BREASTS

>>134560669
My coworker started listening to Ben Shapiro, I hope its a gateway drug to some red pills.

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>>134600017
I didnt cut off my dick. I started the axe wound thing. Sure I dont like my dick but I dont want a fucking abortion of a chopped up slab of meat on my crotch. I probably wouldnt even get surgery if they could give me a lab-grown vagina from my own modified body cells. Why would I risk my life for a fucking cosmetic change? Only fucked up brainwashed people think genitals matter. What matters is how I feel inside and how I look. Society has the weird fucked up genital issues not me. I mean a guy isnt any less of a man because his dick gets ripped off in some freak accident. He's still a man. A woman is still a woman if her breasts get removed from cancer. Its stupid.

Also dysphoria doesnt go away. Its that the people who claim they have dysphoria dont actually fucking have it and realize they are emotionally damaged cuck faggots who think the grass is greener or some shit and they're delusional as all ever loving fuck and snap out of it. Pic related. Your average 50 year old who has "gender dysphoria". Bunch of pedo fucks.

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>>134592654
Trudeau is redpilling quite a number of soft liberals in Canada. Feels good man.

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>>134560669
Recently? It was about 1.5yrs ago, but me. Went from being solid leftie to borderline fascist.

why does he look like a garden gnome

>>134600679
One of my good friends bf has some form of dysphoria and often wakes up vomiting, I have a lot of sympathy for people that suffer from it, he decided to not transition for her sake and after he saw the types of people you describe at the meetings.

The thing about liberals that angers me the most is how they would rather virtue signal and cripple medicine with PC restrictions instead of finding a cure or at least an equivalent to anti-depressants

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>>134562322
Turn 360 and walk away buddy.

>>134576214
>transhumanism.png

>>134587413
these are deceiving words, as God is fair and just beyond human perception. You don't go to hell for simply "sinning". You go to hell for not accepting God in Christ

>>134600834
I'd prefer we didn't have to deal with Trudeau j.r. at all to begin with, but this is true. That fact is probably the best thing coming out of him right now; if we get a vote of non-confidence like they tried with Harper, I think the Conservatives would come out on top once more and Trudeau j.r. would be seen as an unfortunate as well as brief embarrassment in Canadian history. He was the youngest Prime Minister at the time, the first Primer Minister to be related to a previous one... and that concludes his life's accomplishments. I'm hoping for a Prime Minister Scheer in the next election. Might be even younger than Trudeau j.r., but he's more of a family man, he's a gun-owner, and he would ABSOLUTELY deal with the Muslim problem more seriously. Those millions that Trudeau j.r. gave to that terrorist might very well end up going towards the funding of more terrorist activities if not in Canada then somewhere else in the world. The fucking idiot. So what if he was right and they DID go to court and they DID have to pay that mother fucker more money, at least we went down swinging, and I believe that would be worth the extra few million. Better than cucking over over 10 mil without even contacting the widows to people he's killed.

>>134571415
Minaj was made for hatefucking

>>134560669
I want to beat this faggot until his face freezes like that, then beat him into a coma.

>>134601339
What makes me mad med wise is that they push fucking puberty blockers on kids. As if delaying a kids puberty is fucking rational in anyway. I mean just raise the kid the way the kid wants. He comes out at 5 then hes got a good 6-7 years to make up his fucking mind. Then put them on estrogen or let them be a boy. Its real fucking simple. Who in the right fucking mind would fuck up a kids brain by mutilating it with some artificial chemically blocked anti-puberty lifecycle.

All in the sake of fucking being politically correct. So they can have their kid for longer. So they can MAKE SURE!!!™ that they are actually transsexual. Fucking people are fucked up. So fucking what roll the dice and dont fuck with their brain delaying puberty. They are just as fucked diceroll wise if they undergo the wrong puberty anyways but their brain wont be fucked up from a lack of a puberty. Its always MTFs too that everyone gatekeeps. Who the fuck cares? So what they decide they are a boy and they have a tiny dick. Who cares so does like 40% of cis males. So what they have boobs like 40% of cis males. Its a simple surgery to remove them. So what they are fucking gorgeous idol guys that would make any girl swoon. Its the FTMs who get fucked. But nobody gives a fuck about them. They are the ones who can't ungrow a hairy body. Testosterone is disruptive and nobody acknowledges that. Estrogen doesnt do jack shit.

>>134563304

larp?

>>134560669
Myself

>>134560669

>Used to be liberal
>huge fat loser
>Really hot chick comes along that I have a chance with if I stop being a loser
>start continuous every waking moment self improvement
>get away from making excuses or expecting even the smallest break
>shed 105 pounds in 3 months
>get the chick but realize early on that I get raw deal compared to Chad's she used to be with
> spend 3 months rewiring my brain posture and everything to be chad
> become jacked douchebag
>life is amazing
>everything I did was completely opposite of liberal orthodoxy
>have burning hatred for virtue signaling libcucks and their pet oppressed classes because it reminds me of the loser I was and because of how fucking retarded they are
> try to fuck every moderately chick with beta orbiters or cucked numale bf that I can in the hopes that it will force the red pill down their throats

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>>134560669
ITT: Young liberals who think it won't happen to them....

>>134560669
Eh not really, I mean most of the people I know who were left leaning aren't into politics anymore and won't be until 2020 when ((they)) pick our next puppet.

>>134602378
That shit is just outright child abuse, and the parents that dress their young prepubescent boys up like girls, makeup and all, then throw the pictures all over social media should be rotting in a cell.

>>134576491
Why do you fags feel the need to label absolutely everything?

>cis male
You mean "a normal male". The obvious and CORRECT implication being that all other "non-cis" males are abnormal. Does that hurt your feelings? Well no one gives a fuck, it's a statistical fact, no amount of made up pronouns and unnecessary labels will change it.

>>134602976
Keep in mind "liberal" had a very different meaning in 1930s Britain than it does today

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

>>134560669
lots
I even red pilled my humanities professor who was a communist

>>134574584
Yeah it is, you just have to be black or muslim.

>>134602976
>tfw I voted yes on Prop 8 (gay marriage ban) at Age 18
Was I heartless?

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>>134573672
well I'm not this guy, but i'd hazard a guess that the insane social agenda of the left is what drove him towards the right. in other words, all of the shit you conveniently left out in this dumb post, you half-retarded cocksucker.

>>134560762
Same here.

>>134603115
Yeah Ive seen a few where its been forced, but those people are doing it for the attention and they will fuck up their kid in whatever gets the most attention.

The trans kids are pretty obvious though since most of them express that they want to die and stuff at early ages. Ive seen some kids kill themselves at like 9 years old.

Majority of the time its the opposite way around where the kid knows they are obvious trans but their parents humiliate them and beat them and shit so the kid ends up killing themselves over that.

Its pretty fucking simple, you just love and support your kid and 99.99999% of the time the kid will just be cis.

>>134603259
its weird to write normal all the time and cis is fewer letters.
also its a habit from having to specify a specific group when you are talking in lgbt groups just for clarity, also from habit since snowflakes get fucking triggered and derail shit if you dont specify.
Like I said in a post earlier, they lose their fucking minds for something as simple as: "hey guys what would be some good haircuts for mtfs?"
Which they would go on a fucking banning rant about HOW DARE YOU EXCLUDE FTMS AND NONBINARY and blah blah blah.

also cis is a scientific chemical term not a made up term.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjtzMQDdyuM

>>134573672
My family of 3 people had healthcare costs of $10,000 a year, under Obamacare that went up over 3x to over $30,000 a year.

Nobody got sicker, my father is perfectly healthy, he never smoked a day in his life, barely has a single small drink once a month, not on any medications and never has been.

Yet, we have to pay more to cover people on Obamacare. People who I personally know on Obamacare, who are; overweight, smoke, on medication for diabetes but eat sugar, on medication for blood pressure but LITERALLY PUT A LAYER OF SALT ON A CHEESEBURGER

All of those people, I must pay more to subsidize them and their poor behavior. No matter how much we take care of our health, we are not rewarded with lower costs (reflective of what we cost the system) and plans specified to us.

No, we are charged 3x as much to cover people who DON'T EVEN TRY to be healthy.
>bb b ut without those subsidies those people wouldn't have their healthcare!
Good, they don't deserve it. I don't care what happens to them if I'm being expected to foot the bill no matter what forever.

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>>134560669
I know liberals who have become full blown Nazis.

Imagine that

All the terror attacks broke them

>>134573672
As someone on Obamacare I can tell you we'd all be better off without it - having NO doctor is better than having these inept fucking retarded pieces of shit who at BEST do not help you at all and at WORST give you a bunch of medication that doesn't actually work because you were misdiagnosed for the nth time by them and just end up with bad side effects that make you even worse.

Sorta. I personally know liberals who are trending conservative. I don't know where the boundary line is, so I don't know if they've become conservative. It's like, that's the axis of change going on, and it's not like, that's the change that has obviously already taken place.

>>134575235
No, no redpill at all. She's just oinking about men, and how her niglet is not going to be masculine.

>>134574792
>That's the weird trick by the Republican party though. They corrupt and make our government dysfunctional and then turn to the public and say "Look! Government doesn't work!"

Like liberals do with the death penalty.

America started all of this. Gay marriages, niggers , transgender garbage, sex changes, feminazism, calling something "offensive" just because you can't accept that its right, sheltered fucking snowflakes who need "safe spaces", etc. In my country, there are no issues in universities like the ones in America. Their bullshit spread to the EU, and the EU spread it to my country. So a gang of gypsies killed a boy here, to which my people went to protest against and demand justice, and the police defended the gypsies, while not arresting almost anyone for the murder. Gypsies, niggers, arabs, jews and all untermenschen must be purged, along with the cancer that are North and South America and Africa. Also Merkel needs to be publicly beheaded.

>>134607037
I feel sorry for you Bulgaria, you're not responsible for any of this.

>>134607037
(((America))) started this