>All countries have had their own religion. I know my country

>>134549762
I went to that church and so did my grest great grest great grandpa

>>134549762
Interesting church, thanks for sharing. My ancestors were protestants for several generations, but they were not extremely religious. My father's side more than my mother's.

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>>134549762
Like most white North Americans, I have ancestors from different parts of Europe who naturally all worshipped different gods.

Before 966 my ancestors worshiped wooden idols and believed in ghosts and forest monsters.
Must had been pretty comfy.

>>134549762
It's too bad Europe became Christian instead of Zoroastrian
Also to my knowledge virtually all of my ancestors were German Lutherans

>>134549762
My forefathers hailed from Norway, specifically Trondheim and Telemark after the mid 1600's. Sadly right now that's a far back as I can trace it to although I'm still working.

According to my research they were heavily into Forn Siðr even after the Christian conversions.There are a couple baptisms into the late 1800's but before that nothing in family journals.

I'd like to visit Norway and see my ancestor's resting places on day. I'd like to show my children where their family's roots are.

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All these new age religions lul

>>134553009
>implying stonehenge isn't a modern invention

it was a collapsed pile of rocks before we rebuilt it

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What did the worship in Germany pre christianity?

>>134553392
Cheap ripoffs of Greek paganism.

>>134553392
Slavic gods in the current Eastern Germany.

>>134549762
BURN THIS FAGGOT STAVE SHIT DOWN MOTHER FUCKER

>>134552896
>Forn Siðr
The Old Way
that's also the name of a Danish blòtlaug, check it out.

I used to worship with Harreskovens Blòtgilde, under Grælheim Godi and and the gydje Pia Struck. Good times.

>>134553392
they worshipped the same gods and the Scandinavians, only under slightly different names. Thor is Dunder, Odin is Wotan, Freja is Freya and Tyr is Thiwaz etc.

these guys
>>134553621
>>134553657
are full of shit.

>>134553703
fuck off Varg.

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>>134553203
I was unaware faggots cared about rocks beyond tiled club bathroom floors. Learn something new every day.

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Remove all the church symbols and convert it back to a temple.

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>>134554006
Berlin was founded by the Slavs.

>>134554102
>projection: the post
your mind is riddled with lewd thoughts

>>134549762
>provides picture of a church

>>134549762
>Read OP
>check all replies
Nothing but fucking newfags on this site

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>>134549762
That church looks very flammable.
Would be a pity if a local wizard were to cast a fireball spell at it.

>>134554338
greetings (((nu)))/pol/

>>134553392
Wotan !

>>134554269
yes, it was. This has nothing to do with the religions of the ancient Germanic peoples, though. The southern Germans of today are descendent of Celts, the east Germans are mainly of Slavic descent, but the northern Germans are Germanic.

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>>134554547

>>134554605
So you agree that they worshiped Slavic in Eastern Germany. I mean the question wasn't about Germanic people.

>>134551088
Most of them worshipped Jahwe though. It's why you mentally deficients are over there and the rest of us over here.

>>134549762
I practice the religion of my fore fathers anon and the text atleast are free from corruption

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Ancient Finnish Paganism.
Pictured, Ukko the Overgod/King of Gods, god of thunder, sky, harvest and weather.

>>134549762
Monotheistic shamanism.
One god, many spirits.

>>134554006
>They worshipped the same gods and the Scandinavians, only under slightly different names.

Thor is PERUN, Odin is STRIBOG, Freja is LADA and Tyr is VELES.

>>134554744
>So you agree that they worshiped Slavic in Eastern Germany
yes, you're right about that. East Germany and they area around Berlin was predominately Slavic at that time, so of course the religions there was too. You're right.
>I mean the question wasn't about Germanic people
true, it was about Germany proper. But we must take into account that the territory of today's Germany, is a vast conglomeration of cultures and ethnicities, being Celtic, Slavic and Germanic and some even Latin/Romance in nature, so I chose to focus on the parts of Germany populated by Germanics.

but yes, regarding Berlin, you're absolutely right.

>>134554931
>Finland founds "Sons of Odin"
>Finns never worshipped Odin
this has always struck me a tad odd.

>>134555104
are these names of Slavic deities, that corresponds to Germanic ditto?

>>134554269
Of course theory of slavic expansion from east is typical kraut wanna-be-slavny propaganda, Suevs, Vandals, Semnoni, Lugii are slavic.

>>134554006
cheap ripoffs with zero fucking common sence, and sence of development besides stealing and shitting on mudhuts,vagr you dont even know what wotan represents on the micro universe wave patterns, this is why the faggot of hitler stole the science and explanation and symbols representin that of old culture with more brains and less idiocracy

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>>134555217
It is a bit odd. Should've named it after something in Finnish mythology/folklore

>>134549762
Im a mutt

>>134555217
Because it was founded by Anti-racists, purposely to look stupid. Like German newspapers spams about dumb evil Nazis.

>>134555381
I really want to understand what you're trying to communicate, but.. you seem to be insane, and your cognitive impairments have seriously maimed your ability to form coherent sentences.

sorry.

Not sure what England celebrated. Probably just another form of paganism.

>>134549762
Our head god is Ukko. Thunder is in finnish 'ukkonen'.

>>134553865
>that's also the name of a Danish blòtlaug, check it out.
I'll give it a look!

There is sadly no Godi or "public" groups where I currently am sadly but I make do. I'll be moving next year and there are some groups closer which will help.

>>134554931
Neæt

>>134555458
Sons of Ukko, would make fine sense.
>>134555512
no it wasn't, kind Sveabro.

>>134549762
One of the worse, if not the worst religions that has been exported worldwide is christianity. The jew fairy tale has convinced others worldwide that the semit rat jew are the chosen ones. The biggest con job in the past two millenia.

>>134549762
What most pagan larpers dont realize is that the christianization of scandinavia was pretty peacefull, and that the vikings did it through trade. There was a synthesis of the belief structure and you even find crosses and hammers of thor together. No christianization means no Beowulf, and no actual writing system besides >muh runes

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>>134555590
The ancient Britons were Celts, and worshipped roughly the same deities as the continental Celts, being the Gauls, the Galatians, Galicians and the Iberians. Look into Irish folklore, it has retained a great deal of the old ways of the Britons, the Cruithin and even the Picts.

the main difference is between Brythonic and Goidellic practises, but they stem from the same Celtic traditions found on the mainland.

>>134549762
Roughly the same as yours but with a different accent (Wodan rather than Odin, Donar rather than Thor etc)

>>134553392
>>134554006
Mostly true. Although you have to understand that "Germany" was also comprised of partly Baltic (South East) cultures as well as Slavic (East), Celtic and mostly likely Celtic-Latin.
It also depends on the time period. Before the Roman empire many of the Germanic cultures extended more east and a bit more North (Just before Modern day Normandy and Eastward towards modern day Latvia). Central Europe at this time was mostly Celtic. Once the Romans had conquered most of central Europe, Germanic cultures were more northward and still in the North East (of the Roman empire). During the Hun invasion many of these cultures were Either forced South Eastward, Eastward, or further North again (likely taking parts of South West Sweden from the Sami culture).
Post Roman empire Germanic cultures in North Eastern France (Franks) Established a kingdom, Northern Germany (Saxons) and Southern Denmark (Angles) migrated to modern England establishing a mixture of the local Britons, Saxon and Angles. At this time both the Frankish kingdom, Saxon tribe and the angle time had converted to Christianity (the leaders). Obviously Germanic religions were still practiced (and in England).
My point is, throughout the history of Modern day German different cultures embraced different religions depending on the culture present, as pagan religions was dependent on the culture (usually), unless a Empire was established in that region with one religion.

>>134554006
>Donder
You mean "Donar".
>Wotan
You mean "Wodan"; Wotan is a modern interpretation of the word.
>Thiwaz
You mean "Tiu" or "Ziu"; Tiwaz is the reconstructed proto name. While Tiu and Ziu have been attested.
There is also the belief, that "Saxnot" the god of the Saxons is in reality Tiu under a different name.

>>134555607
you should write some of the Danish Blòtlaugs, they'd be happy to help in terms of ritual and education. Just tone your powerlevel down a tad, don't go full 14/88 from the start.

>>134555860
we know this. King Harold Bluetooth christianized the North, because it payed of and put him into supreme power over the earldoms.

it's taught in every Danish school.

>>134556017
I know, see
>>134554605
>>134555136

>>134556017
There have Germanics as long as Sami in Scandinavia. They both came right after the ice age from different directions.

>>134556065
thanks for clarification, Deutschbro.

I miss your bratwurst.

>>134555869
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWBoEUIsZi4

Ylivieska church about a year ago

>>134549762
>be ruler of Russia
>make panteon of 6 main pagan gods
>realize people around you still think you're a pagan faggot
>(((((((
>baptize

>>134556475
Do they rebuild the churches if you burn them down?

>>134556470
I'm not really a Bratwurst guy, more of a fish guy, I live a few kilometers soutch of Tondern/Tonder. I am not that different from you.

>>134556602
my grandmothers family was Prussian, we're probably related.

>>134556365
yeah.

>>134556791
Well, of course we are, we're both ethnically Germanic.

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>>134556565
They decided they'd build a new one to replace this one, not sure if they do that to all of them.

http://finlandtoday.fi/the-ylivieska-church-burned-on-saturday-is-the-fifth-destroyed-by-arson-in-the-2000s/

>>134556090
I'll give them a shout and tap into the resources. Appreciate the information. Thank you.

>>134556877
true, true that.

feels good man

>>134557025
glad to help.

>>134557104
Well my friend, heill auk sæll.

>>134557210
heil ok sæll, til árs ok friðar.

>>134556475
Crispy

and a good laugōz dagaz to all, be you Germanic, Celt, Slav, Roman or anything in between.

Old Evropa lives on.

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>>134554269
SLAVA!

>>134557884
that sure looks comfy.

Mostly Saxon ancestry here so Norse gods with Saxon and Continental Germanic names:
Thor = Donar
Odin = Irmin (Saxon)
Frigg = Ostara (Saxon)
Tyr = Saxnot (Saxon)

>>134558219
so, you descent from The Irminones. Look into this.

http://www.irminsul.org/

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>>134549762
Not much is known about the gods my ancestors worshipped. Just their names and vague ideas about their roles in the pantheon.

>>134555986
It isn't right to make no distinction between Iberians and Galicians and Gauls and Celts. They are wholly different people, and we Iberians had our own religion.

>>134558705
And I should say that even one Iberian people worshipped different gods from another.

>>134558489
where are you from? What's your general ethnicity?

>>134558736
Portuguese.

We had, for example, a god who is thought to be the god of throwing darts or javelins. This isn't really found elsewhere in Europe as far as I know.

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>>134549762
Shintoism 神道 is the one true way way of god. Every other path is a deception.

>>134558219
I had no idea who Ostara is until I watch this new show with pagan belief.

>>134558705
>>134558733
The Celts were a vastly diverse group, spanning from the Anatiolian highlands (Gallatians) to southern France (Gauls) and the Ibero-Celtic peoples of modern Spain, amongst them the Galicians. And that's just the continental Celts, you know.

but they were Celts nonetheless, just like the Celts of ancient Britain, the Britons, the Picts, the Cumbrians and so forth.

>>134558941
>god of throwing darts or javelins
not bad.

>>134549762
Norge är så vackert! *jelous*

>>134558943
>Shintoism
I know it's the original religion of the Nippon, before Buddhism, but aside from that I know shit all about it.

quick description?

>>134559194
så sandt, kære nordbroder. Og jeres myseost er genial.

>>134559075
My issue is that you threw Iberians in there as though it were not the case that Iberians are not Celts, did not speak a Celtic language, or have an identity which was markedly separate from Celtic peoples. Yes, Galicians were Celts, as were the Arevaci and the Celtici, but others like the Lusitani and the Contestani and Edetani were Iberians (and even here not especially closely related - Lusitani were distinct from, say, the Edetani). "Iberian" didn't historically refer to anyone who lived in the Iberian Peninsula. There were Iberians proper w

>>134559335
That brown cheeze? Yea, it's really good!

>>134559341
true, I fucked up the distinction, as far as I know the Galicians were Celts (Ibero-Celtic/Hispanic-Celtic) but of course not all Iberians are Celts.

>>134558003
Old Slavs had nice outfits.
Thought since Dark Ages the original outfits changes depending on the region (West, East, and South) there are still some similarities between them.

As for the religion pre-Christianity: we believed that entire natural world is inhabited and influenced by spirits or supernatural forces.

Heck, Slavic culture predates Vikings, hence Perun is basically the OG Thor.

>>134552896
> Trondheim
Bloody southerners.

>>134559816
>Slavic culture predates Vikings, hence Perun is basically the OG Thor
Thor, along the rest of the pantheon, was worshipped in the North Germanic regions long before the Vikings.. actually, the "Viking Age" was a brief interlude in the history of Scandinavia, spanning only some 300 years at best. But yes, the Slavic and the Nordic deities have a lot in common, as do our cultures.

>>134550001
where is it? Norway?

>>134559341
The central peoples of Spain were Indo-Europeans. Invaders from the early iron age.

>>134559341
>things I learned from Rome Total War II

>>134559069
It's where the Christian tradition of Easter comes from. Rather than making her into a "demon" the Christians made her into a holiday so there'd be less resistance to conversion.

>>134560426
This hopefully reminds everyone that all "christian traditions" are in fact Pagan traditions that have nothing to do with Christianity/Judaism.
Easter? See Ostara.
"Christmas"/Yul? The winter solstice.

>>134549762
"I WILL NOT STAND IDLY BY WHILST A DRAGON BURNS MY HOME AND SLAUGHTERS MY PEOPLE!"

>>134560213
Yes, Lusitani are the same but they still haven't been conclusively classified. Some say they are pre-Celtic, others say para-Celtic. The old view was that they were Celtic but most recent scholarship rejects this.

>>134549762
they were probably Catholic for a shitload of time since my father's line comes from pure Castillian stock, while some on the side o my mom we have some mexican indian here and there they worshipped Quetzalcoatl or Huitzilopochtli as well as some of other Mexican old gods.

I'm Catholic myself but I know the Old Gods had some power from an esoteric perspective, they probably don't exist, same as my God but I still believe in the Demiurge and that shit has power, all religions (except Islam they are idiots that worship a childfucker instead of a God) boil down to worshipping the Demiurge

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>>134558941
We have one of those, but worship of him has severely fallen since the 90's.

>>134554748
this, I'm okay with Pagans and all but acting like their forefathers worshipped their Old Gods until 100 years ago is stupid, Europe has christian for nearly a thousand years, even the Nords have been Christian since around 1100 AD

WE WAZ ALWAYZ KRISHANS

>>134560883
>Demiurge
bruh, that's Gnosticism.

>>134549762
Bulgarian here.

Before Christianity the proto-Bulgars were monotheistic and worshiped Tengri (Sky God).

The Southern Slav tribes worshiped a pantheon of Gods I know almost nothing about besides the names of the main ones.

Christianity was used as the uniting element in 9th century to finally combine bulgar and slav tribes into one nation

>>134561205
>even the Nords have been Christian since around 1100 AD
true, but we never fully let go of the old way. We still celebrate Jul (Yule) and not Christmas, we still honour the mistletoe because we want to ward of the death of Balder, we still celebrate the solstices and the equinox plus a shit ton of other heathen mumble jumble like gnomes, elves and rock worship and so on.

the old way never fully vanished in the north.

>>134561549
I thought the Bulgars were Slavic?

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>>134561497
>gnosticism
The concept of the demiurge comes from the Pythagorean, Platonic and Neoplanotic schools my man, Gnostics just adopted the term because they are a mish mash of shit they stole from other religions, hell most gnostics don't even know what they really worship

>>134561989
good point, anon.

ever heard the theories, that Quetzalcoatl/The Feathered Serpent was a god inspired by Viking raiders who reached the Americas around 1000 AD?

idunno myself, sounds far fetched.

>>134561881
This is what we are taught in schools for decades now:

Old Great Bulgaria sort of disbands when Khan Kubrat dies (you can check the Wiki articles for details, it's quite interesting if you are into that). His 5 sons split armies and people and proceed towards Europe.

The youngest son, Khan Asparukh crosses Danube river and bumps into southern slavic tribes; slavs are weaker and soon join into a union with the proto Bulgars.

Some leftover Thracians still exist at the time, so they join too.

A new country is formed by all three peoples (today's Bulgaria), but the ruling classes are all Bulgars and it's still dis-jointed etc. 150 years later the then Khan brings in Christianity to unite all, and moves to a new title - Tzar.

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>>134549762
>tfw the religion of my forefathers is lost in time because they weren't White enough to have many written records it

>>134561818
True dat, and I'm glad some of your traditions were in turn adopted by the church, Christmas would be a lot different if we didn't syncretise some traditions, like I said I'm cool with Pagans, the different religions practiced by pre-christian Europeans are beautiful and I think there's much to learn from them.

Like I said the Old Gods had power, if they didn't they wouldn't have been worshipped but probably I'm in the minority thinking this way and I'm always trying to learn from other European religions to further my spiritual journey through life.

I recommend a book called The Pagan Christ, can't remember the author's name but it talks about how catholicism came to be the "universal" religion we are by unifying different Pagan traditions, hell most of our traditions come from pagans, like the rice thrown at weddings, the big wedding cake (those were from Rome) the Christmas tree, the feast and Santa Claus bearing gifts to children come from Nordic traditions, I could go on but this are the ones I can name from the top of my head


srry for blogposting

>>134561881
Oh forgot to mention - I think the Slavic ancestry may have been overplayed during communism to bring us closer to the rest of the Eastern bloc.

>>134562482
interesting, indeed. I will into this more, thanks for info.

protestant i guess, northern netherlands here

>>134562619
what ethnicity we talking here?
>>134562724
strong post is strong, you're on a good path anon.
>>134562727
this sounds very much legit, the eastern block did shit like that all time.

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>>134561891
When Europe was pagan, it was a backwards muddy shithole.
When Europe was Christian, it was by far the most powerful continent in the world, having subjugated everyone else.
Now that Europe is turning away from Christ, it is starting to fall.
You absolute fucking retard. You should be fucking ashamed of yourself.

>>134562867
bullshit, you guys worship tulips. I've seen it.

>>134562243
sounds far fetched but possible, Quetzalcoatl's human form in the legends of Tula and Teohtihuacan was always described as a tall pale bearded man with red hair that's why when Cortez met the Aztec envoys in what is today's Veracruz they thought he was Quetzalcoatl returning as it was promised in their myth.

I think we are onto something with this, will do research on the subject

>>134549762
>implying native religions didn't have the same tendency
That's all forms of hierarchy.

>>134562982
>When Europe was pagan, it was a backwards muddy shithole
hmmm... well..
>Vikings subjugate England and found Kievian Rus and Russia
>Celtic expansions through mainland Europe
>Rise of Slavic incursions eastern Europe bringing culture and inventions
>lol wtf was Rome?
come the fuck right on, Serb.

>>134562955
>what ethnicity we talking here?
slav

>>134563133
oh.. I didn't know that. That really is an almond activator.

>>134563223
there's plenty of annals about Slavic heathery, just look in this thread.

and don't buy into the "slavs ain't white because hitler said durr untermensch hurr derp" meme.

>>134562982
come on man, the greatest European empire to ever grace the continent was Pagan, Pagan's shaped the fate of England and Celtic traditions still permeate European culture

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>>134562996
delet

>>134549762

Hmm, my earliest known ancestors were all Franks, including Charles Martel. Those guys were Christian. Also have a couple later ancestors who fought in the First Crusade, one managing to kill an elephant with his spear as it charged him. I presume he was Christian.

I did have some Norman ancestors, so I guess there's some Germanic worship a bit beyond a thousand years ago.

>>134563484
Wrong. For example, Bulgaria became truly great in 9th century AFTER using Christianity really well to unify tribes and factions into one nation.

Christianity was also the sole factor that preserved our national identity during 500 years under Ottoman rule. Can you even grasp what 500 years can do to erase a nation?

If it happened now in Europe, no country would be able to preserve their unique identity for centuries and recover.

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>>134563401
i was just memeing when I said we're not white
i just wish we had more literary material comparable to the poetic edda or theogeny for example

>>134563831
kæk

>>134563267
I mean just from some names there's uncanny similarity like how scandinavia was referred asThule, Greenland as Ultima Thule and one of the greatest if not the greatest city of the Ancient Toltecs was named Tula also mayans worshipped a God called Balun Votan which atleast in name bears a striking resemblance to Wotan/Odin which some theories suggest was another form of the Winged Serpent Kukulkan/Quetzalcoatl

still if Vikings sailed from Vinland to Mexico it should've been recorded in the sagas, that or the people that intermarried with the Skraelings somehow migrated to Mexico, but Mesoamerican culture's and religions were already somewhat stablished before Vikings landed in North America

>>134564167
ah, yes. Valid point.

>>134549762
I hear you whining about a religion not followed for 900 years with no internal records ever kept, just drunken speculations from some French academics a century back to be 'rebuilt' upon; and you post one of the first churches built upon the ruins of that faith.

>>134564205
there's some real depth to this... I gotta go see some of my historian friends and have them look into it, this is interesting.

>>134563172
Pretty much. It was almost invariably a priestly class or a warrior aristocracy at the top, and often both.

>>134554181
Heresy against Luther.

>>134558943
Is it true that only japanese can practice shinto?

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>>134564418
check this out:

>"Mural in the Temple of the Warriors, Chichen Itza, Mexico. The image shows light-skinned men as they pack to retreat by sea, while others defend a village or are taken away as prisoners. ( The Plumed Conch )"
pic related

>Hans Ebeling published the book ‘ Die Reise in die Vergangenheit III. Die Europäer gewinnen den Erdball. Geschichte der Neuzeit bis’ , in 1789. In his text, Ebeling talked about how Moctezuma II welcomed Hernán Cortés as Quetzalcoatl. Guðrún Guðmundsdóttir and Björn Thorsteinsson translated Ebeling’s book into Icelandic. They discussed the Eyrbggia saga in the epilogue. This saga mentions two possible Vikings who may have sailed to the Yucatan region of Mexico - Gudleif Gudlaugson (c.1025 AD) and Björn Breiðvíkingakappi (c.965).
Guðmundsdóttir and Thorsteinsson claim that the Eyrbyggja saga describes how Björn Breiðvíkingakappi (Björn the champion of the Broadwickers) sailed around Ireland and landed in Mexico.

>There are also three traditions of the Norse Sagas that mention that in 965 or 986 Ari Marson set sail from Ireland in an attempt to reach Greenland. The story has it that Marson’s ship ran into rough seas and a storm threw him off course. Within six days he had reached Mexico instead. The Eyrbggia saga and the voyage of Ari Marson may explain how the first white people got to the Yucatan.


Salsa: http://www.ancient-origins.net/history/pre-columbian-murals-and-norse-sagas-suggest-vikings-met-aztecs-and-outcome-was-not-pretty-021084

>>134559983
>The first and only true capital where the eternal king is resting.

The Viken bastards are the true damn southerners.

>>134556793
> or further North again (likely taking parts of South West Sweden from the Sami culture).

They already completely owned it?