Hyperloop

>>134548144
>New York to Washington
Why would I want to though?

One bullet would break the vacuum seal forcing a massive shockwave down a narrow passage that would kill everyone on board. Soo you'd need armed guards 24/7 on all 225 miles of the run. Plus pumping out all the air would take a pisstaking amount of energy.
It's just an all round shit idea

>>134548537
> being this retarded

Don't you have good schools there?

>>134548537
or they could just reinforce the Loop with strong material that can withstand most projectiles

>>134548144
Wait until tickets become cheap.

Remember- Greyhound used to be an acceptable way to travel. Now try riding one from Memphis to Atlanta.

>>134548854
>Now try riding one from Memphis to Atlanta.

I've done it twice

>>134548784
Which would be insanely expensive. Also it would have to be really thick to widthstand thousands of atmospheres of pressure and somehow flexible to survive earthquakes

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>>134548144
because of the rising shitskin population, the world will never have any more large scale innovative projects like this ever again. all this innovation can only be accomplished by whites. but since white population is in a decline and a larger and larger part of whitey's resource goes towards gibs, such undertakings are impossible for now.

>>134548144
Why is the Spokane/Boise route isolated from everything else?

>>134548537
One bullet could set off a chain-reaction crash on an interstate highway, you'd need 24/7 armed guards on the thousands of miles of road. Sounds even dumber when you think about it.

>>134548144
Elon Musk is a con artist.
I'm surprised people still listen to him, literally all his money comes from stolen tax dollars.

>>134549245
>Spokane
i love these funny names american places have

>>134548144
whomever made these routes has never lived in the us

>>134549115
it's not like bulgaria has ever done anything remotely like this and it's supposedly """""white"""""

>>134548144
The Hyperloop is a Hypermeme

>>134549314
Theres breaks on a car, There's no breaks for thousands of tons of air rushing down a tube at the speed of sound

>>134549357
Most of Washington's cities are named after Indian tribes/chiefs

>>134548595
Schools are haram anyway

>>134549245
Spokane to Seattle seems much more appropriate.

>>134548144
>will we be able to get from SF to NY in 30 min?

We won't if they leave Sacramento to Salt Lake City disconnected

>>134549522
I was just thinking the same thing. Florida has 4 stops? No hyperloop stops in major Military tows? What a tard

>>134549538
bulgaria did a lot in its time, but i won't bore you with it since you don't care. at one point it was surpassed by the west culturally and technologically. and at that point it just started adopting innovations from the west. there's no point in inventing everything twice, all that matters is being able to create a stable society and not rocking the boat, which bulgaria can do.

the problem is, shitskins can't even adopt anything from whites and actively ruin everything AND prevent whites from innovating.

>>134548537
What is "underground boring" for $100, Alex?

Are you saying someone is going to shoot from inside the tube? Airport security has pretty much solved problems like that. Fucks sake.

>>134549357
Most Americans can't pronounce city names in Washington state. Puyallup, Sequim, etc...

>>134550080

Just shut up with your nig-whining already

>>134548537
> american edukation
lol

>>134548144

Hitch a ride on an ICBM.

Just climb up on the tip, hold on tight and you'll be there!

>>134548144
Great, now niggers can murder someone and be in a different state in 5 minutes

Sure way to bring down black crime stats

>>134550238
come again

>>134550083
Putting it underground is even more stupid. Want to pay $2,500 a ticket to cover the billions it would cost to make a tunnel large enough and long enough to accommodate it?

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>>134550334
>niggers
>affording the tickets

>>134548144
>if you want to go from NYC to Philadelphia, you have to detour in Pittsburgh
Fuck's sake

>>134550370
>digging holes is difficult
>t. retard

>>134550083
I'm saying anyone with a high caliber rifle within a mile of any stretch of track can peirce through the thin layer of steel they are planning on using.
And good luck tunnelling across the country. i can't imagine that would cause problems

>>134550629
Go look up what a pain in the ass Big Bertha was for Seattle.
2/10 made me reply.

>>134550629
digging holes is expensive, even really small tunnels go up in the millions

>>134548144
This shit will never be profitable.

Why do seppos keep giving this retard money?

>be in vegas
>want to go salt lake city
>have to travel across half of america
Who designed this shit.

>>134550479
Infrastructure is always subsidized

Even conventional rail, there isnt a single rail line in the WORLD that makes a profit

They are simply privatized to avoid gocernment fuckups

>>134550560
Grntrification

>>134550083
Jesus that would take forever if they made it underground

>>134548144
>Could we soon
>soon

I don't think you realize how slowly american unionized workers actually work

>>134550940
passanger trains operate at a loss too i believe

>>134548144
Would honestly love this - city fags would start only visiting other cities and leave the rest of us alone

>>134549815

>Tillicum village in Seattle?

>>134548144
hyperloop is basically a scam tech doesn't even work.

>>134551037
A single fault with a railway network doesn't kill every single person currently on the railway network. A single pressure fault with this dumb system kills everyone in the system almost instantly. Would you fly if you knew that a single plane crash would crash every plane on Earth?

>>134548144
>Could we soon get from New York to Washington in 30 minutes?
Never since this is just yet another Elon Muskrat scam.

>>134551180
no, i wouldn't. i don't know shit about this hyperloop thing, i'm just reading the thread because it sounds interesting.

>>134551037
Yes. The gains occur at a coordinated level by relieving congestion commuyr times, fuel costs rtc.

An extra hour of productivity is worth more in taxes than the rntire train ticket, so...

Imagine being a filipino and paying 3 hours wage just on the cost of a commute...

>>134548144
Whoever made this map lives in Indianapolis

>>134550083
What is "not fucking possible" for $500, Alex?

There isn't enough unoccupied space underground, and above ground most land is already owned.

>>134550560
If you want to go from Phoenix to Denver be prepared to go through Texas and fucking Iowa.

Also, when has anyone anywhere ever needed to go to abq? I can't even spell it.

>>134551213
Elon musk is suckingbup government subsidies from less profitable companies.

The point isnt that hes not a parasite, hut that he is a more efficient parasite.

He is starving the parasites out of the environment they created

>>134549324
literally.

LITERALLY

but not literally. or at all

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>>134548144
>he fell for the hyperlolo meme

>>134551119
It's crazy how any thread that brings up productive tech innovation instantly gets comments from dark age shills. Sorry faggots, we have the technology and we're moving on. Maybe try STEM

>>134551037
that is what i am saying. im pretty sure no mass transit system operates at a profit. this is just going to be a big tax payer sinkhole.

>>134550997
yes but high velocity lines are usually not very affordable, I wouldn't be surprised if a ticket from new york to pittsburg in this train would cost more than 50$

>>134549324
>Elon Musk is a con artist.

This.

>>134548144
This is a great idea if you completely disregard economics. There is a simple reason we don't have Euro style rail connectivity in the US - insufficient population density. If you think tunnel boring will be cheaper than laying rail on top of the ground, you are too stupid to be on the internet.

>>134551514
You're right, Musk is a tech gatekeeper. Doesn't mean we should discount all new technology though does it?

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>>134548144
This is now a space elevator thread

>>134551618
See
>>134551362
Basic shit anon. Market information is important byt infrastructure js the exception

Try visiting a third world country

>>134549245
Mountains

>>134551362
>Imagine being a filipino and paying 3 hours wage just on the cost of a commute...
wait are you saying this actually happens or that it's avoided by using the train?
>>134551618
are you a libertarian? or are you just upset because in america the mass transit systems and public transport are nigger carrying services? because as shit as public transport and the trains are in bulgaria, i'd prefer to have them than not.

>>134551634
50$ is the cost of a daily roundtrip average commute in los angeles

Whats the big deal?

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>>134548144

1) Hyperloop doesn't work and will not work as advertised, because the physics don't work.

2) If you could get an underground maglev system to work at NOT FULL vacuum it would be best suited for cargo transport. For the same reason there used to exist tube systems for sending letters within buildings, but we still used elevators.

3) If you got a vaccuum tube working with people in it, the slightest breach would be catastrophic. It's a terrorism magnet. The first accident would make it go from safest transport to most dangerous.

Elon isn't Tony Stark. He also isn't a selfless entrepreneur. He sucks government titty, his companies live on your tax money. He's a tick on the neck of society, maybe better than the current ones, maybe with more vision than a Lockheed, but no different.

>>134549038
yes but unlike you, we're not yuropoors and can afford nice things.

>>134551888
Anyone who isn't shilling for a space elevator should off themselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQLDwY-LT_o

>>134548595
HLIDF GO REEE

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>>134550080
this is fast approaching that infamous "india will be a space traveling superpower" post

>>134551682
I was low key praising him, actually

Pouring the monkey into experimental tech is 100% better than consumer expansion, and millions more rap cds and air jordans

Elite consumption drives tech growth. Low economic growth is a function of wage EQUALITY.

No number of h&ms or whole foods stores will drive income growth

>>134551874
I guess you're right

>>134551910
This. creating and maintaining a 99% vacuum of that size requires ungodly amounts of energy and resources. You're better off just bringing back supersonic airliners.

>>134551731
Is anyone going to bother to read this? This company is founded by high up physicists from Lockheed Martin and they say they can build a space elevator within ten years. No one cares? You guys truly want a new dark age huh

>>134552034
it is? it was meant to convey the opposite of that.

>>134551874
It's $16

>>134550629
Digging a tube that doesn't implode is.

>>134551859
It happens, yes.

See my other post. It happens in america too. Avg l.a. commutebis like an hour and a half wach way and maybe tp miles. Thats a shit ton in gas, then factor 25 cents in maintenance and devaluation for every mile you drive

Most workers now pay a good third of their salary in commute costs in america too

>>134551731
A space elevator is more believable than a continental network of memeloop, and arguably more useful.

>>134552186
Not even close streetshitter

>>134552347
both are pretty meme tier though.

>>134548144
Have you heard of airplanes?

>>134548144
>can't even afford high speed rail

>let's build something 20 times more expensive.

>>134552347
Arguably more useful? Allows for asteroid mining, nearly infinite solar energy, and can easily solve climate change by deploying a sun shield/synthetic ozone layer at the Lagrange point

>>134552354
How could it possibly cost you $50 per day to commute?

>>134548144
No, the hyperloop is many decades away from technically feasible.

In its current form it's another cashgrab from Musk, it's his version of solar roads.

>>134551910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woaQdXLb1z0

>>134548144
h-hey can we get some of that too?

>>134552436
Not sure how energy abundance is "meme-tier". Give this a read: https://newfederalistpapers.joomla.com/11-orbitalring
Or if you know any physics you might find the Orbital Ring concept interesting:
http://www.orionsarm.com/fm_store/OrbitalRings-III.pdf

>>134552712
It's not the maglev in a tube part of hyperloop that doesn't work. It's the maintaining a 600 mile long vacuum chamber while retaining any sense of real world practicality in the process part that doesn't work.

>>134552592
Im not engaging a street shitter in a discussion of basic facts

You niggers would argue 2 pkus two equals five.

Get out if the thread if youre going to be an idiot

>>134552712
>dat 20 km/h

>>134552760
>not sure how energy abundance is "meme-tier"
See. You have already resorted to a straw man argument. You are a pile of garbage that belongs on Tumblr. You are below even plebbit level.

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>>134551888
space elevator sounds cool but whats the point?

you go up, then what?

>>134552832
Except it won't be a total vacuum throughout the entire length of the tube. Read the white paper.

Stop watching thundercuck.

If the country wasn't bankrupt, yes. Currently though, no.

>>134552838
Not an argument.

>>134552920
Jump

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>>134551731
>Lockheed Martin physicists who build military jets initiate a campaign to begin building a space elevator
>Consumers too retarded to even look at their page

>>134548144

>chicongo still a major hub city.

Yeah, no fuck that place and all traffic going into it.

>>134548537
Nice pseudo-science, bongtard.

>>134548966
as a native Detroiter.. I spent one night in Atlanta and I can honestly say that city is 10000% more niggery than Detroit. I've never been harassed on the streets by homeless like I was in Atlanta. Fuck that place.

>>134552974
Its a basic cost calculation you nigger. Im not going to teach you arithmetic. You infians do this in every single thread jesus fuck

>>134552920
Mine asteroids, put up a solar panel (something rocket technology hasn't been able to do because the payload would be too heavy), and save the earth from space-borne catastrophe's such as solar flares

>>134548144
No it won't. And I'm going to do everything in my power to stop it, because progress scares me and the only means of real transportation any man should consider is his pickup truck.

>>134548144
Why is there no station in Cleveland?

>>134552920
This is a good read if you're genuinely curious:
https://newfederalistpapers.joomla.com/11-orbitalring

>>134548144
implying the airlines would allow this and get broke. anon please, stop acting like retard.

>>134549357
Come from various Native American languages. Have you heard of Humptulips, Washington?

>>134548144
>>134548144
Sure, if you're rich as fuck.

>>134553000
alright i'm sold

>>134553169
You're heavy on hot air but light on facts

>>134548537
It wouldn't happen for the same reason people don't fire guns at aircraft taking off. Most people don't want to murder hundreds of random people.

>spaceX """""""technologies"""""""
LOL

>>134550115
I grew up in Steilacoom, Washington and nobody knows how to pronounce it lol

>>134552920
Supposedly cheaper access to space, as you don't need to build a big rocket to send your payload. You still need to build the elevator, which won't be cheap, and hope that no durka durka will crash a plane against it.

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>>134548537

Why would it cause a shockwave?

If you make a hole in something don't the air atoms just come out? Why would it kill everyone on the tube I thought it would just stop or something

>>134548144
Today ill remind them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk

>>134552961
>muh partial vacuum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpWeU2fvFGs
That tanker car is designed to withstand an entire fucking train derailing ontop of it. All they did to compromise it was knick it slightly by dropping a large object on it and if you wait for the closeup of the guage you can see it imploded at -80kPa guage.
100 is a fair ballpark for atmospheric pressure. Meaning the tanker had 20kPa (or 200mB) of pressure left when it imploded. Hyperloop will be 100mB. So you need 600 miles of tube built stronger than a fucking tanker car.

>>134551859
>are you a libertarian? or are you just upset because in america the mass transit systems and public transport are nigger carrying services? because as shit as public transport and the trains are in bulgaria, i'd prefer to have them than not.


the issue is that i believe that taxpayers shouldnt pay for private corporations that have no hope of ever turning a profit.

You know what Wal Mart is? If you do let me tell you a secret about them. Wal Marts in most large cities dont make a profit. The only reason Wal Mart has not gone bankrupt is because they accept welfare. Tax payers keep Wal Mart in business and that is bullshit. The people that own and operate Wal Mart have run that company into the ground and there is no consequences because they just get tax payer money.

Im 100% OK with mass transit just as long as it is not privately own and getting massive amounts of tax payer money.

>>134548144
We already can. It's well known in inner circles.

>>134548144
https://youtu.be/2IPVLQiK2ps

>People think trains aren't the future for the US

Retarded fucks hahahah

>>134553375
Space elevators generate revenue equal to production costs in less than two years. And they can easily be protected against terrorism: with an orbital ring it would be the most solid structure ever built by man.

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>>134552961
>leaf

No. It's all bullshit.
It will never happen.

The math doesn't add up in any significant way. Too many spofs.

Elon Musk has been a clear genius since he was smart enough to use his parents connections and money to start some mediocre businesses, after dropping out of grad school. Once his genius allowed him to win the dot com lottery with pay pal, it was clear he was the greatest scientist and engineer of the modern age.

Spacex, the greatest space firm of all time, is highly profitable and doesn't need any corporate welfare to exist. Musk's genius dwarfs that of the brainlets at NASA, and we can all be thankful that tax payer dollars go into his pockets instead of NASA anymore. The proof is in the pudding when you consider all the technological advances spacex has delivered to society, and how much further we have gone into space, compared to when NASA was well funded. All of this with only a bachelor's degree.

Tesla motors has completely changed the way we drive cars and is the only car company with the vision to have an all electric vehicle, or even use some kind of alternative fuel source at all. That was Elon Musk's idea. Tesla has commpletely changed the way we drive cars, and because of that its highly profitable and definitely could exist without the massive cash injections the government puts into it.

The hyper loop will be another paradigm shift in the way we travel. European and Japanese people will look on jealously from their mag lev bullet train snail vehicles, while we zoom by on the hyper loop. Faster, more effecient, genius, success, elon musk

>>134548144
ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!

Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.

Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites.

What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries?

How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?

And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this?

But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-white.

Anti-racist is a code word for anti-white.

>>134553410
Its a vacume inside, air rushes through the hole to fill the space, creating a shockwave.

Except for being smart about getting money, Elon Musk is a moron.

You have things like friction(and other heat) and air pressure to contend with.

Anybody who takes this, assuming they survive, is going to have a massive headache.

Depressurization, earhquakes, strong winds damaging the tube are not pleasant ways to die.

>>134551672
A thing doesn't have to be cheaper to be more profitable. If it can make the trip in 30 minutes as opposed to 3 hours it can potentially move 6 times as many passengers per day.

Also, rail into cities is expensive because of US eminent domain laws.

>>134553591
t. Elon Musk trying to convince you to give him more tax dollars

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>>134548144
That map is so fucking retarded.

What if I were in Miami and wanted to get to DC or New York quickly? What about even Jacksonville? Why is there no line which goes to or from Idaho? How come the only way to get to Salt Lake City is form the east?

What the hell is wrong with burgers? I don't know how you guys rule the world.

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>>134553174
Progress is scarier than what you could dream of. You should read Ted K. You should also get rid of your pickup truck.

>>134552920
Then you build the orbital ring. Then you can drop elevators to ship cargo from various locations on earth.

>>134552154
>they say they can build a space elevator within ten years

after start with mature materials

muh carbon nano tubes

>>134552104
If it weren't for the french.

>>134552961
>Stop watching thundercuck.

God that guy is so negative on everything. Atheists have no capacity to dream.

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>>134554049
Stop surrendering control over the power process.

>>134553331
>What is a terrorist attack¿

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>>134548144
Ahahaha what is pipe flexing? So many of you hypertards don't even science.

>>134554169
He might be a complete cuck lord when it comes to politics but his science is sound. He deals in practical science. The kind with verifiable numbers.

>>134553924
>How come the only way to get to Salt Lake City is form the east?
I'd say mountain are in the way. Building a memeloop over a mountain would be pretty impossible, and digging a tunnel through it is retarded.

>>134554195
How can we get him out of prison?

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>>134551731
A space elevator is less useful than a orbital ring, costs vastly more and requires magic materials we can't actually make right now.

While the orbital ring uses only materials we have today, costs less and has vastly more utility for all of humanity.

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>>134554244
Them pipe expansion loops.

>>134553375
do mudslims have a passage like the tower of babel in their book? because if so that thing is getting allahu ackbared fucking instantly.
If not we wait like a year for some christian insaneo to blow it up.
Or maybe an atheist commie upset its being used to make a profit

>>134551941
Kek, your infrastructure is 3rd world tier m8

>>134552920
russia btfo

>>134551941
Also you are 16 trillion in debt
>not poor
Kek

>>134548144
>Could we soon

>He doesn't have the funding
>It hasn't been tested to that scale
>Hasn't started acquiring land

At best, they'll start digging in 10-15 years and a few stations will start to be open in 20-25 years. At best.

>>134548144
>Elon Musk
>not a conman
>not a conman
>not a conman
>not a conman
>not a conman
>not a conman

>>134549115

Nah small amounts of white people can get large amounts of darkies to be the actual Joules behind the physical work.

Its been done through out history.

>>134554363
Them pipes don't have a 15,000lb train moving through them at 800mph.

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>>134554244
And how are you supposed to get a solid object going at the speed of sound through this?

>>134554369
I think they have the Old Testament amongst their religious book. Also they've got their own tower of babel right next to their holy site. Pretty funny to be honest, and surprised some terrorist didn't bombed it already.

>>134554619
They also don't need to be thick enough to withstand a constant -90kPa vacuum.

>>134553924

you don't realize how big is the US. Its OK you're from Singapore. There won't be a connection anywhere through idaho, the population is too low and the population too high. anyway you're right the map is retarded. But I just want to stress you're from singapore and you lack perspective, and that is also sort of retarded

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>>134554285
If you could do it back then, I don't know what the issue is now.

Moron.

>>134554708
Back then there were less Jews skimming off the top of the cost of infrastructure projects.

>>134548537
What if it's built underground?

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>>134548506
came here to post, honestly surprised no other replies.

>>134548144
No Charlotte? For real? That city is POPPIN.

>>134554708
Back then they didn't tried to make a vacuum tube as a mode of transportation.

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>>134548144
>hyperloop ever working
>first show me a hyperloop that's 10 miles long and travels at 800mph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk

>>134554286
This is pretty fucking stupid. It's just too big to ever be built. At least a space elevator you could build if you had the proper materials.

>>134554808
Dirt weighs more than air. The absolute pressure it would have to withstand in that situation increases.

>>134549357
hey, frenchlick indiana has a respectable history!

>>134549245
What you meant to say was 'Why is Spokane Boise even ON this map?' The person who made this image is clearly from middle of nowhere if that's an important hyperloop development...

>>134554702
I've been to the US mate, and I've got a pretty good idea. That considered there is still no justification for how retarded that map is. There's not that much space between Miami and Jacksonville, for instance, and there had ought to be at least a full east-coast line. There are other countries such as Russia which cover much greater distances (even in Siberia) over the rails and operate just fine.

>>134554768
So now the Leaf is telling me it's the Jews. Sure sweetie. How convenient.

>>134550715
The work is techincally easy you dumbfuck whats difficult is all the fucking loops and regulations the stupid city throws at you. You would be surprised how stupid local politicians can be when it comes to large projects. Most times when a construction job drags on is because the city made it that way wity its restrictions. Some affluent cities wont even let you get a day time work permit because all the bimbos with kids need to go to yoga and froyo. Fucking dumbass.

>>134548144
>30 minutes
3 dimensional plebs are so idiotic. Try -30 minutes with 8 dimensional techniques

>>134548144
lol Bostonfags BTFO

>>134548595
>>134548595
Ok person from a country that never has no ever will matter, how is he wrong?

>>134554997
It would be built inside a tunnel obviously, king of likea metro. Seems a lot safer than just having it above ground.

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>first Hyperloop opens
>wow 600km in half an hour
>not even a week passes
>car crashes into one of the tubes
>air gets in, imploding the entire structure and killing thousands of people inside
>mfw "but muh vacuum train!!"

>>134554968
>This is pretty fucking stupid. It's just too big to ever be built. At least a space elevator you could build if you had the proper materials.
It's smaller than a space elevator.

>>134555435
https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/20/elon-musk-says-he-has-verbal-okay-to-build-multi-state-underground-hyperloop/

>>134555314
Again, there's engineering solutions for every issue with the hyperloop. The point is that it all requires impractical amount of time and resources. If we still lived in a society with a zeitgeist like ancient egypt, where you could convince armies of conscript labourers to work on a gigantic public works project for next to no pay other than "pleasing the gods" it might be doable. But I don't give a fuck about going from New York to Washington in 30 minutes. I don't support a dime of my money paying for such a thing. Good luck finding the private investors required for it. And there's no way in hell I'd ever trust my life to it.

>>134549726
Hyperloop is a vacuum mohammad you fucking retard

>>134555842
If a vacuum chamber is compromised air is pushed into it with the entire weight of the earth's atmosphere pushing behind it. It would squash the carriage into a pancake in a matter of milliseconds.

>>134549522
> no boston, tampa, charlotte, memphis, cleveland, richmond, milwaukee, el paso,...

But anon, d-don't you want to visit beautiful Montgomery and Tallahassee?

>>134552034
You can't read then

>>134556051
It's not that anyone wants to go to Montgomery or Tallahassee it's that people want to leave those places and go elsewhere.

>>134548144
Is this an official map? To go MSP to SEA you need to go through Houston? To go NYC to MIA you have to go through Indianapolis?

>>134555703
Alright, let's rewrite that.
>First underground hyperloop opens
>wow 600km in half an hour
>time passes
>engine failure in one of the trains
>all passengers get stuck in the middle of an underground vacuum chamber, which they literally cannot escape
>all suffocate
>all trains behind either crash into it all also stop and run out of oxygen
>entire hyperloop now unusable
>repairing is almost impossible because "muh underground!"
>billions of dollars lost
>mfw

>>>/b/739712176

>>134548144

plz no dc can't handle anymore of that scum

>>134556946
Well they'd have to design it so that they can isolate and pressurize/depressurize specific portions of track in order to rescue/repair shit. Like it's not just the tube itself that's ridiculous. But the kind of support infrastructure needed.

How are you going to maintain a vacuum in a space that big? Or are they just pumping some of the air out? Seems like a stupid move when you could just use high speed rails inside tunnels.

>>134549038
>thousands of atmospheres of pressure
It's a not-really-close-to VACUUM chamber, not a pressure vessel.
The difference in relative pressure is one atmosphere.

>>134557661
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpWeU2fvFGs
DOT-111 tanker car imploding at -80kPa vacuum (roughly 200mB).
Hyperloop will be 100mB pressure. It's more than enough pressure to turn a nearly 1/2" thick carbon steel tanker into a pancake in the blink of an eye.

>>134557938
The tanker car isn't designed as a vacuum chamber - its design is focused on axial and hoop stress from contents under high pressure load. This stress is tensile - stretching - not compression like a vacuum chamber, which metals such as carbon steel excel and suck ass at respectively.

In all likelihood you'd be looking at a lined concrete tunnel, not a single sheet of 1/2 inch thick carbon steel.

If it were strong enough under compression to begin with, we'd use 1/2inch thick tubes of steel for tunnels instead of concrete.

>>134557938
got a reference to it being 100mB pressure across the entire length of the tube?

>>134558624
It would have to be you fucking retard. Holy shit. How fucking retarded can people get?

Jesus Christ. I don't know what's more retarded. Actual retards, or Elon Musk fanboys.

If i were a terrorist i would get so wet when this gets built.

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>>134558883
Look at that, the leaf is right for once.

Anyhow the Kekistan flags are dead giveaways for retardation.

>>134558624
Probably won't be.

>>134558825
>>134558883
There's no need to be hostile.

There are definitely worse problems than 100mB pressure being structurally sustainable, like ever achieving that pressure without material outgassing and permeability compromising it, the cost of sustaining the vacuum, the lack of evacuation options in the case of an emergency

>>134559272
Or that the ideas change from having a turbine engine pushing an air cushion, to being a maglev sled, yet having wheels for braking and "emergency" travel

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>>134559272
>There's no need to be hostile
Well I want to be. Welcome to /pol/

>>134548144
Who gives a fuck? Back to /b/ faggot

>>134559666
Heil Satania.

>>134548144
Physicist reporting in.
This is a fucking stupid idea.

>>134550671
Stupid can't knows nothing about fluid dynamics.

The Cv (orifice flow coefficient - Google it retard) would be so small, and the pressure differential less than 1 bar.

It will take fucking ages for the pressures to equalise.

You are certainly a certified retard with no ability to conceptualize.

>>134560825
Except that putting the hole in the steel compromises the structure and will lead to a cascade failure.

>>134550671
Also, the pipe thickness for a nominal pressure / vacuum rating is a function of the diameter of the pipe. Bigger the diameter the thicker the wall needs to be.

As if it is going to be full vacuum rated.

More likely to be around 25% of full vacuum.

Dumb asses like you should shut the fuck up. You are not qualified to open your mouth on technical talk. So shut the fuck up retard.

>>134561263
Neck yourself Muskfag

>>134561150
The air flow through the vehicle when it is accelerating would be 3 to 5 orders of magnitude higher than flow through a tiny bullet hole.

As if it is going to do anything. ..

>>134561309
Shove a log up your ass you retarded lumberjack

>my city is still getting more bus lines instead of developing the AWESOME FUCKING LIGHT RAIL
>light rail to next city over delayed 40 fucking years because political kikes took the money
>thinking we can get interregion transit when we can't even have decent intraregion

Buses are an abomination. Eliminate buses and (city-use) cars, put all infrastx into rail and tube. Turn the roads to emergency-vehicle-only (and delivery drivers) and cycle lanes. Problem solved. Cars have no place in a city. They should be rural use only.

>>134549245

Shit map. Call me when Denver-Boise-Seattle.

>used to have decent public transport
>boomers gutted it and changed everything to sprawly car infested shitholes of onramp/offramp tangles, 6 lane noise factories, pollution, and parking craters
>cities all look like shit now, not /comfy/
>carfags murdering pedestrians and cyclists all the time
>loud as shit, smelly
>could have had rail like japan
>instead got stripmalls and sprawl

Why not just hire chinks to build us some bullet trains? 200 mph is fast enough for me.

>>134553027

>space research halted for last decades so we could gib money to negroes so they can bix nood and mug people

when will liberals pay for their crimes?

>>134561613
Not even going to bother. Muskfags believe in magic.

>>134549038
>thousands of atmospheres of pressure

Didn't realize these were being built at the bottom of the ocean.

No connection between Orlando and Jacksonville?

>>134562890
Fucking useless thing cant' even get you from Thief River Falls to Winner

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>>134561309
>>134562409
>>134559506
can you fucking stop, no wonder people autofilter us

>>134552154
If it was so easy they would do it but there's no return on their investment.

>>134563693
>>134558624
>got a reference to it being 100mB pressure across the entire length of the tube?
No, a question like that makes us all look retarded.
Take your magical vacuum gradient and fuck right off.

>>134550115
Wenatchee
Chelan
Yakima
Skykomish
Walla Walla

>>134561150
>>134561613
(You) think a half inch thick steel tanker container under 200mB of pressure is comparable in failure rates to a compartmentalized section of tubing surrounded by steel and concrete buried several meters underground.

>>134564494
Again. And again and fucking again to you faggot retard piece of shit Elon Musk fanboys.
The issue isn't whether it's technically impossible.
The issue is that it's wildly impractical. It will never pay for itself.

>>134548144
We can build an underground stargate tunnel but we can't gas all the merchants and minorites?

Thanks, drumpf

No, it's just a way for Elon Musk to get even more gibs from the government.

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>>134548144
hyperloop is hyperbullshit. will never happen

>>134564700
>costs less than a highspeed maglev

>>134548144
Call me when Elon Musk can actually make a dollar in profit selling $75,000 cars.

>>134548144
Oh boy cant wait to pay 300 dollar tickets!!!!! Wow what a great convinence.

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>>134565170
>cost less than
Anybody can scribble down a dubious price estimate you fucking retard. But that doesn't make it true.

>>134548144
why have a pressured tube which should be airtight? if it isn't very empty of air, then it doesn't matter, if it is close to a perfect vacuum, then it is too dangerous. it would be like a thousand times bigger then the current existing vacuum chamber (im probably lowballing it).
Here is an idea: BUILD BULLET TRAINS. you know why they aren't build over america? they're too expensive. the hyperloop would be even more expensive, more dangerous and harder to maintain. if you want to waste money for fast public transportation across the continent at least do something feasible, like shinkansen in japan. the hyperloop is almost as retarded as solar freekeen roadways

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>>134565454
also on the space elevator, why the fuck would you build it that high as in the first picture. don't think this is low on this image, they're fuckin so high up it's retarded, and they still look like they're barely off the earth

>>134552838
Wrong flag. That's a Niger, looks like India but worse.

>>134553000
Digits confirm. World's most awesome suicide platform. Don't even have to go splat. Just float off amongst the stars. So long space cowboys.

>>134565344
that would be better consider air rates and travel time...

>>134565368
Even if it costs $60-70Billion that's still substantially lower than quite a few highspeed maglevs. You also have to factor in the fact that it would be travelling 4-8x faster than most HSRs.

the economic consequences of having a public transit system connecting a nations cities with sub-24 hour travel would be huge.
The only other comparable travel option would be a private jet and it wouldn't require jet fuel or have any environmental cost.

>>134551731
why don't we just run the cable all the way to the moon?

>>134566556
>pie in the sky talking out of ass bullshit
Permaban all Muskfags when?

>>134552154
>Lockheed Martin
aka GIBE TAX MONIES

>>134562407
>space research halted for last decades so we could gib money to negroes so they can bix nood and mug people
If those gibs weren't going to negroes it would be going to people like Elon Musk instead, who has already received billions of dollars in gibs, no negro can compete in the art of getting gibs from the government.

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>>134566723
>pessimistic whiner no one besides the other leaf is even bothering to respond to now
>arguments full of holes and retarded strawmen comparisons
>get asked to backup your statements
>go full goof and call everyone "muskfags" projecting your own cognitive dissonance

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>>134548144
>denver
>I can go to SLC or Omaha

>>134548537
If the first passengers aren't unvetted muslims and immigrants who are given advance notice that they can ride this without a security pat down, then I will sue Elon faggot musk

>>134553424
underrated

>>134549038
are you talking about the "loop" or the vehicle?
the vehicle has 1 atmosphere, the loop itself is like a metro tunnel (that then has to draw a vacuum)
>>134555995
They might try to compromise the shuttle itself - there's not going to be an emerge repressure that can save anyone
smaller charge, keeps it in operation, so you can kill more
let FEAR kill the project, not one bomb
dumb nigger elon is such a piece of shit
"ill make this but no way it can operate in modern day because I am such a piece of shit"

>>134556946
that's not a problem, any issues they'll repump air in and also drop air lock sections
but
what is a problem is if the shuttle gets depressurized, then everyone is fucked
thanks muslims

>>134548537
It's going to be underground you stupid fuckingn bong

>>134565864
what first picture you stupid fucking croat?
click on the fucking post and link you stupid fuck

>>134548144
>No Charlotte connection
I'm not angry I swear

>>134557640
Constantly running vacuum pumps. I guess the passenger loading part would be accessible by an airlock around the station. Train pulls in and the track section at the station closes off pressurizes and lets people on or off.

Maybe. But for the whole length of the track they will have pumps running sucking out leaks constantly.

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>>134558411
>In all likelihood you'd be looking at a lined concrete tunnel, not a single sheet of 1/2 inch thick carbon steel.
You mean like what they have been constantly showing as the hyperloop in all of their promotional material?

>>134548144
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQXqeWKY2Fc

logic and real science said hi to jewish musk's cocktail science

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>One break in the seal causes power lose for the transporter.
>Only one tram in the loop at a time.

>>134548144

I fucking hate people who hate Elon Musk.

You know those threads that give you a choice of 4 buttons to press, kill all Jews, niggers, muslims, SJW's etc. I wish there was an option to kill all Elon haters.

The guy just wants to advance technology and make cool new things. Which is what made whites great. Yet everyone hates him because "omg progress is expensive fuck elon muh taxes muh free market failure". Just kill yourself if you have ever had a single negative thought about Elon Must you fucking waste of space. The mans shits are better than your greatest magnum opus will ever be you oxygen thieves.

>>134572317
You DO realize we can discuss an idea without critiquing a person, right?

...right?...

>>134548144
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM

Sing it with me boys!

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Can a hyperlooper explain how it's superior to a dedicated right of way high speed train?

With all new rail and tech we can hit 350mph or 575kmh without any real challenge. Likely more if we really wanted to push the engineering.

>>134548854
I took a greyhound once, a 2.5 hour trip turned into a 6.5 hour trip. I'd rather ride a pair of rollerblades

>>134572317
At least he wants to spend our money on cool shit instead of throwing it all at niggers and muds to buy Left-wing votes.

>>134549357
Spocompton

>>134572317
all Musk does is start businesses that existing technology whenever he can use government subsidies to pad profits

>>134548144
>make it easier for liberals to travel to my city
No thanks.

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>>134548854
>lives in the south
found your problem

>>134570594
That's for a test you fucking idiot. You know there's a reason they're using unmanned vehicles at the moment right?

Do you really believe that you, some random twat on the internet, are more intelligent than the engineers working on this thing?

THEY KNOW THAT IMPLOSION IS THE MAIN RISK. THEY WILL BUILD THE REAL THING OUT OF VERY STRONG MATERIAL. AT THE MOMENT THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO PROVE THE CONCEPT.

>>134572805
Im no scientist but I think its very low in the power consumption department

Wich a train is not, I mean its not bad but its not great

>>134548537
>americanne educationne

>>134573344
Is the cost of energy the limiting factor? I doubt it.

>>134548854
>Riding the nigger express from the two niggest cities in the country

>>134573344
no fucking way maintaining a partial vacuum tube and ditching the initial plans of air levitation for mag lev anyways is much better if any

>>134572317
then stop circlejerking him and discuss the tech/business. stop being a faggy fanboy

>>134573319
"prove the concept"

lmao the concept of partial vacuum, cutting edge stuff right there! first musk made overpriced electric cars for hipster retards, now hes gonna do it with trains

>>134570594
theyve never had a vacuum trial, let alone partial. the only thing that specific hyperscam company has done is a open-air sled in vegas for maybe a hundred meters.

>>134548144
If it's not a meme then maybe but it would be expensive also would hurt the aviation industry immensely.

>>134548506

gotta get those asshole lobbyists back home by dinner

>>134573319
>THEY WILL BUILD THE REAL THING OUT OF VERY STRONG MATERIAL.
Which is extremely expensive. A steel pipe thick enough to be substantially safe starts costing like crazy and still have issues of thermal expansion to contend with.

I do think I'm smarter than the engineers working on this project, because I wouldn't try to build this as a solution for travel. A conventional high speed rail or more exotic SCmaglev would offer better outcomes.

>>134548144
No, America doesn't spend on infrastructure. It would cost too much for them.

>>134548144
>hyperloop for insane speeds between liberal cities, which mostly have shit logistics anyway
>do this amidst a cultural civil war poised for violence as patience runs out.
>implying it won't be used by the Nazis to blitzkrieg from inside your own walls while you're being sieged from the outside because you can't defend it
>OR, destroy your only lifeline that cost like six trillion dollars to kill off one Nazi battalion.

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>be burger
>more afraid to die in pressurized tube going supersonic speeds across your great country than the chance of dying in a Mexican made plastic and metal meatwagon on your way to work

>>134574142
They had engineering student test run of robot cars in vacuum... which was a failure of comical proportions.

>>134555101

All infrastructure work needs to done at night. Not for the yoga moms, but for the people who work during the day (ie 80% of all wage earners)

>>134574019
/pol/ is literally just "I hate everything" isn't it? What a pathetic existence to lead.

>>134574539
>A tube wall thickness between 0.8 and 0.9 in. (20 to 23 mm) is necessary to provide sufficient strength for the load cases considered such as pressure differential, bending and buckling between pillars, loading due to the capsule weight and acceleration, as well as seismic considerations.
>The expected cost for the tube is expected to be less than $650 million USD, including pre-fabricated tube sections with stringer reinforcements and emergency exits.
http://www.spacex.com/sites/spacex/files/hyperloop_alpha-20130812.pdf

>I do think I'm smarter than the engineers working on this project
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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>America will be majority minority by 2044
This will not happen, maybe if 1965 didn't happen.
The world will get darker my friends, both literally and figuratively.

>>134575533
So in a partial vacuum, they made a slightly-hovering sled with wheels go under 100km/h (top team made that speed, not them) over a 900-meter-long, half-scale-tube track. And the only reason they got an air cushion was using scuba tanks. "To levitate continuously, the pod’s four casters need an air source. A scuba shop in Kitchener sold them two dive tanks for $500." LOL
Gotta admit though, this is still better than anything the LA hyperloop team has done.

>>134548144
That map is retarted. A route should go East-West, from NY to San Francisco, and everything else off-shoot's north or south from this main route.

>>134550671
>thin layer of steel
>Large diameter Tube in Vacuum
Do you even physics.

But I do agree this whole thing is a meme.

fun fact, this is the current state of hyperloop tech LOL https://youtu.be/woaQdXLb1z0?t=2m17s

>>134575852
$650 million per 30m of tube (installed) for the elevated version. Now they want to tunnel from NY to DC. Excluding the actual tunnel sections needed for going under water ways, even doing just a standard cut and cap is going to add millions more per 30m section.

I wonder if they will make twin track, so it's 1.3 billion per 30m prior to tunneling or not?

>>134575852
>I do think I'm smarter than the engineers working on this project
>Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Are you also an engineer? These guys have simple ignored the safety aspects of the loop to create a suggestion for a least possible design that will work.
A 23mm thickness pipe 3.3m is just slightly above the failure limit for a vacuum at 20kPa abs (which is less than what was specced). It has no real margin for safety and they again still haven't even addressed the expansion issue.

>>134576560
>So in a partial vacuum,
It's not partial vacuum or low/high vacuum, any pressure below atmospheric or 101.3kPa is called a vacuum. Not mad at you just a technical thing that gets my autism up.

>they made a slightly-hovering sled with wheels go under 100km/h (top team made that speed, not them) over a 900-meter-long, half-scale-tube track. And the only reason they got an air cushion was using scuba tanks. "To levitate continuously, the pod’s four casters need an air source. A scuba shop in Kitchener sold them two dive tanks for $500." LOL
>Gotta admit though, this is still better than anything the LA hyperloop team has done.
I heard they had nice snacks at HL-LA.

>>134548144
I would only want it so I could commute from my cheap bedroom community West Virginia in to DC or NOVA

>>134575852
That's a fairly poorly written proposal. When they're referencing 'the tube' they are referring to the length from LA to San Francisco.

Musk is notorious for underestimating costs though.

>>134550083

> build it underground costing hundreds of billions of dollars
> still need airport levels of security
> the hyperloop will replace airplanes

Just fucking fly.

>>134551608

> productive

It doesn't work

> innovation

The plans for this were created and proposed at the same time as the wright bros. flew for the first time.

It is an old idea that doesn't work.

>>134552154

> within ten years

After they invent new materials and those matetials ''''mature'''' to a commercial and safe level.

That basically says 'we will have flying cars within ten years (of anti gravity technology being invented and maturing)'

It's bullshit.

>>134548537
Not if Hyperloop installs a membership system that scans people (background check) and is bullet proof.

You really think they're gonna go cheap on these security measures? The government itself regulates these portions and it might have tighter security than TSA.

>>134548537
>Soo you'd need armed guards 24/7 on all 225 miles of the run
So? is a job generator. 10/10 win.

>>134548144
bullshit

>>134548144
Not on my fucking dime. Fuck off.

>>134548144
Give or take 4-7 years.

>>134563978
not going to quote all your posts, so I'll just quote your last one

10/10
rare to see such high quality trolling these days, even managed to make me mad

This is what will happen screen shot this
> Hyperloop construction started
> "NY to DC in 30 minutes"
> Tests start
> "We are running into issues, NY to DC in 45 minutes"
> System not performing up to expectations, speed reduced again
> "NY to DC in an hour"
> Vacuum will not hold, pressurization issues, now running at or near 1 atmosphere
> Turns into a regular long distance subway
> "NY to DC in 90 minutes"
> Hyperloop 2.0 planned "Will fix all of our mistakes" 2029

>>134548144
id rather they were both nuked desu