this is politics i swear

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>inb4 nordbot

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also IT anons get in here and post your own opinions on whats the safest browsers and antivirus's out there

>>134544340
totally not bumping my own thread...

Nobody cares that you browse a racist shadow puppetry pen pal exchange.

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>>134545343
its so much more then browsing this board, its about keeping your private information out of the hands of the government of huge corperations, who will just use it to get shekels.

which brings up a point, make a fake persona and use it for everything non-government and non-bank related. keep them from milking you for shekels, and reduce the amount of spam you get at the same time.

Oh please, 99% of 4/pol/ are computer morons. You may as well be speaking in a lost tongue.

Its better to let them see. More moves.

>>134545843
the problem is the sample size is SO LARGE

that it doesn't matter they have your data

they have EVERYONES DATA

nobody is gonna sort through this shit

they would set up a code to find keywords or something

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>>134546117
if you ever taken a database class you would understand how foolish that is. not only can they take the millions of bits of your information and mine it for useful information within seconds, they do it on a daily basis for everyone and every location to get more money out of people. they even have programs to decide who the big spenders are, and contact them to get more shekels out of them.

>>134546351
>>134546351
exactly my point fag

you are lost in a endless sea of data

it would be impossible for a person to personally go through all your data and searches unless you were a high priority target

nobody cares that you fap to futa

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>>134544340
I want them to be able to track me. Maybe then I might get a job.

>>134546605
except the porn company, who uses a program to figure out what you like to fap to, and put them in the top results when your IP accesses the website.
but you really think corperations having huge profiles about you is okay, because people don't usually look at them, your crazy. but visiting these sites and getting on government list for watching certain youtube videos. the government becomes interested in your information and collects if from the corporations who have all of your information

>>134546748
i guess thats true, to get a job at google, they require you to use all there software. its pretty fucked up to be honest.

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>>134546851
your fighting an uphill battle

you cannot compete with the porn industry they have way too much money

also
>looking at porn

dude go outside and take a deep breath it sounds like you didn't leave the house for a month and got schizo paranoid after watching minority report

your not wrong about the profiting but it's practically out of your hand

your just 1 person in a endless sea of data

what they won't get from you will be gotten from another user

the only true way is just to not use the internet for embarrassing things such as porn

go talk to the opposite sex

>>134544340
VPNs are already trackable, only good is to bypass region locks
No normie is gonna use a weird OS
>Muh games
Tor is a honeypot for the government

Have fun in life freetard.

>>134547187
i go out side, like once a week i even socialize...
but nah man bitches are gold digging whores, i'll wait to get a decent job before i start bar hoping again
>>134547304
most vpns are but, some are getting wise and even deleting there logs more then once a day.
tor being a honeypot is overstated. the government has like 50% of the exit nodes, but that counts the NSA who uses tor for there employees safety. tor is safer then the fbi and cia want you to believe

>>134547508
Lol still wrong. Enjoy your fake privacy idiot.

how do I transfer all of my search date from edge to firefox? noob here, help me be more secure

>>134547624
then dont use tor, there are other browsers out there, and even though tails is more secure then most OS's they have different ones that don't use the tor newtork.
the point is you just have to put forth some effort, its not impossible to regain your privacy

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>>134547624
>Hey goy, why try to protect yourself? You know it doesn't work right.

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>>134544340
Fuck off. This shit is pleb-tier. Just take over some parolees PC and use him as a doppleganger. Anybody looking for you will think they've found you without doing any further due diligence. Use some degenerate bastard so you don't screw up a decent person's life though.

>>134547778
i assume you mean like your usenames and passwords for your favorite sites, there are third party programs that store your username and password. i would suggest those, i used to use dashline but heres a link
http://www.esecurityplanet.com/views/article.php/3909401/5-Best-Password-Management-Software-Packages.htm

Because the big zog don't care about me selling drugs

Privatoria had a VPN + TOR that I used to like. I ran a stripped and modded windows 10 through a Linux box as a firewall. The Linux box was connected to a TOR + VPN package. R8 Me

>>134548117
Teach me senpai

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>>134547913
It works, but you have to be good at deception and subterfuge, relying on technology to do the work for you if for lazy fools.

You 4chan shits are getting disappointing these days.

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>>134547999
O master haxor please tell your Jeet ways.

>>134548117
nah i like it, its my understanding the federal government is fucking lazy, so once they get through tor, then they have to get through your vpn. and most of the time its not worth their effort

>>134544679
>safest antivirus
Prevention.

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>>134548169
>You 4chan shits are getting disappointing these days.
Privacy isn't difficult to achieve, but it's not something I care about for the computer I use to shitpost on 4chan.

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i use windows 7 and iridium browser
also is linux really much better in terms of privacy?

>>134547999
>committing a crime to cover up something that's not actually a crime
0/10

>>134548742
linux is safer, for sure. its not as popular and since there are different varients, most hackers won't bother making viruses that affect a few thousand users instead of millions.
but its not 100%, nothing is; its why you need to have many layers of security

>>134548742
>is linux really much better in terms of privacy
Only if you know how to use it, so in your situation.. no, probably not.

>>134548697
true, i've noticed having a strong firewall matters alot more then a good antivirus, as long as you don't click on shady shit or download programs from shady sites

>>134549030
Your ID says cunt

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>>134549291
lol right, but what ever gets the bump for muh safety

>>134549256
When I was super paranoid I ran all these antivirus and firewall apps that, when vault 7 came out, were revealed to be full of vulnerabilites. Sad!

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>>134544340
I bet you aren't evening using the shit you're talking about.
Show us your 4chan pass to prove it.
I'm not paying for a 4chan pass just so I can post here using TOR or a VPN.
I have all that shit but I'm not using it here because I'm not paying

>>134544340

The mods will ban you for this OP. I got warned earlier for posting the hypocrisy of Muslims in a thread since the mods are all lefties.

>>134549476
its one of the reasons linux is so good, being open source allows the tech nerds to find the vulnerabilities and report them
>>134549702
4chan pass, you mean give the fbi money and my info, no thanks. the FBI literally runs /b/ i would assume they keep all the logs from all of 4chan... so no thanks

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>>134549291
LOL
Anon uses public VPN, IP banned permanently. Anon uses proxy. Recaptcha does not work.

>>134549806
Then how do you post here using a VPN and/or TOR?

>>134549702
was meant for
>>134549664

but yeah, let em ban my current vpn location. its not much skin off my back
i have heard they track the mac address off your ethernet card, thankfully i use a 20$ wireless adapter thats easy to replace if they go all out

>>134549989
they ban the tor ip addresses pretty fast, i would suggest just browsing 4chan with tor and if you want to post, use a normal browser with your vpn turned on

>>134550160
Capcha doesn't work for me when I use my vpn. What am I doing wrong?

>>134550426
i don't know, i use PIA and it works most of the time, sometimes i have to do it 3 or 4 times. might try doing an internet search seeing if its a common problem and theres a fix for it,
also heres a link for anon on decent search engines to use
https://privatoria.net/blog/top-alternative-search-engines-that-do-not-track-you/

>>134550696
My searching show that proxy and captcha do not work. Technical details omitted.

>>134550886
honestly the safest bet is just to not post, since they prevent the most secure settings from working on here. i know i switched to double-chan or omega-chan when they first banned tor because of how butthurt i was

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>>134544340
Because everything I say here,I also discuss in person.
>Because I'm an American and able to freely express my opinion

>>134551115
I have been doing that last few days. Kinda liking it better.

>>134551441
well you can express your views without being jailed sure, but i've had job interviews(well one) that asked for my jewbook. and we all know corporations have fired people for expressing views that aren't similiar to theirs...
>>134551495
yeah i'm tempted to go back to double chan until sharia blue runs out of money. but i feel like thats letting them win. and fuck those guys

>>134544340
>why aren't you using tor to browse /pol/
because all the exit nodes are banned from posting

>>134551725
>but i feel like thats letting them win. and fuck those guys
Yep

>>134551930
i still think its safer to browse pol with tor, and then use a separate browser to post. but you have to have a vpn turned on if you use a normal browser. thankfully there are some free vpn's for the poor anons
but really if your just shit posting, i would say just don't post unless its like a happening or something

>>134544340
I have nothing to hide.

>>134544340
I'm not in the EU, I don't have to worry about being tracked down for saying nasty things about Muslims

What's anyone's opinion on the opera VPN?
I know it's more of a proxy but is that pretty good within the browser?

>>134552255
true and with trump appointing conservatives to the supreme court, chances are you won't have to worry for some time. but i wouldn't trust the government or corporations not to smear your name if it fits there narrative

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>>134544340
Good subject. Thanks for the reminder

>>134552485
Owned by Oracle, only good for saving bandwidth when using a mobile data connection.

>>134544340
>why aren't you using tor to browse /pol

because tor exit nodes are banned on 4chan dumbass

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Dance like no one's watching. I'm almost completely weaned off Google and only use it on Firefox Focus on my phone, because when I show people something on DuckDuckGo, they freak out. Reverted to Win 7 as soon as the Win 10 free upgrade expired.

Other than that, I'm an open target just like everybody else. The hoops you'd jump through to 'be safe online' would be a big red flag for people interested in such things. You're just drawing more attention to yourself.

>>134552485
i couldn't find any information how fast they delete their logs, and being in canada. thats a real problem. so safer then nothing, but probably not safe

>>134544340
>using a VPN justifies the NSA bugging everything you have thanks to Obamas executive order

VPN = PROBABLE CAUSE

>>134544340
The only solution is to follow Trump's lead and be unstumpable. If they try to smear you because you come here, proudly declare freedom of speech is more important than being politically correct, ESPECIALLY if someone says something you disagree with.

>>134544340
The real solution is to defend NET NEUTRALITY. It says right here on the 4chan banner. WAKE UP SHEEPLE

>>134552898
implying trump hasn't already made an executive order getting rid of lots of obamas executive orders.
what are you doing that the nsa would bother cracking your vpns encryption? they dont just hunt down all the tens of millions of us for using a vpn
>>134553088
lol this is for real discussion, take that BS back to readit. the internet shouldn't be controlled by a law bad in the 1930's

>>134553336
errata* the internet shouldn't be controlled by a bad law made in the 1930's

Anyone who knows shit about this knows that your computer is already compromised at the hardware level

if only i2p had exit nodes

>>134553389
how do they know to use those backdoors when you don't give them any reason to by hiding your traffic. you have to act smart by preventing them from knowing whats going on in the first place

>>134553598
When you use a VPN, you are literally on a private network with access to the Internet. I connected to a popular one and say all kinds of traffic hitting me that should not have. Did not have monitor running to see what it was. I did not ask for that traffice.

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>>134544340
yeah the left cant meme for shit, sad.

I used to post using a work computer, work VPN. Quit that job, now can't post using a paid VPN service or Tor. What VPN can you use that isn't "IP range banned"?

>>134545843
would have to move everyone out of the their sphere. the data they collect on every normie also has an impact on what they understand about you
we are all creatures of habit
if we can find a way to move everybody onto a peer2peer trustless network there would suddenly be laws against trustless peer2peer

>>134553598
TOR was created by the US government and has been cracked by every major government intelligence service out there, plebeian.

The only thing browsing on TOR does is paint a giant red target on yourself like "HEY GUYS, I'M DOING SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS, INVESTIGATE ME".

No one gives a fuck that you browse /pol/. Not even your mother wants to participate in a phonecall with you, let alone a government agency spying on you. You aren't special. You are one ape who will die in an insignificant amount of time and never have any impact on anything. No one cares about you or has any interest in you whatsoever. They just want you to buy their shit. By using TOR you are entering into "potential terrorist" zone, and then they really will be interested in you.

>>134554811
buy bitcoin get a gold pass
use whatever vpn you want

>>134554811
That works great until your employer's equipment gets raided.

>>134554961
i hate this time of day where the dingos go to sleep and leave us with all the brongs

>>134554979
Thanks

>>134544340
My ISP doesn't even lease IPv6 addresses.
Why am I not paying to encrypt my traffic though an external service that could easily be paid off to monitor people?
Because I can simply browse HTTPS versions of websites for free.

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I'm not doing anything illegal and I'm too boring to register on their radar. They can monitor me all they want. Sometimes I say mean things on the internet. They have bigger fish to fry.

>>134554979
Best solution so far. Should work. VPN then proxy.

>>134555184
Losers like you were saying this shit on /b/ a fucking decade ago when everyone was scared of getting v&.

And yet the only people who ever got in trouble were like.. Weev. And that kid who posted pipebombs and said he was going to shoot up a school, "it was a social experiment" lol. Look how we effortlessly continued to browse 4chan for the next 10 years and no one ever cared, and no one ever will. Some day the government will eventually ban 4chan, then they may start caring. But.. they also ban piracy websites and no one has been prosecuted for circumventing that in like 20 years. You guys need to go back to /x/. What are advertisers going to sell people who browse a lithuanian yak-skiing forum, advertisers won't even touch this place other than porn sites.

>>134554979
>Bitcoin
the MOST traceable """currency""" out there. You are either a moron or a three letter leaflet

>>134553088
Top b8
Net neutrality is a total scam being perpetuated on the plebs. It's being pushed by google and Facebook to protect their profit margins. This is one of the few coherent articles out there that really lays down what NN is all about

http://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2017/05/18/the_ugly_truth_about_obamas_net_neutrality_110247.html

>>134556264
THIS
I pity every one who came to /pol/ after 2012 and hasn't taken his time to dig through the archives. GG was a mistake and draw so many Shekel addicted Goys and yids too this board, it is just sad.

OP here, my vpn changes my id everytime i log off
>>134554522
thats most likely the normal traffic your router sends to your computer to make sure your still their, take a networking class noob
>>134554811
i use PIA and the isreal exit, i used to use silicon valley but it got banned recently
>>134554961
hurrdurr the NSA and FBI can spend resources and manhours to hunt me down. well don't diddle kids and you wouldn't have that problem
>>134555368
you should still block ipv6 in your firewall, there are exploits that allow common hackers to bypass your security, while yes https is encrypted its only the start, because those websites still record your ip and what you do on them, and sell that information

>>134556928
>thats most likely the normal traffic your router sends to your computer to make sure your still their, take a networking class noob
25 years in the business. Corporate VPNs all day every day. Not.

>>134544340
VPN admins ca see what you're doing, the only safe surfing is bots.

>>134558399
So are the blackpilled guys actually right that it's not worth it to worry too much if you're not willing to break the law for security? Great if it works, but if it doesn't that's all the incentive needed.

>>134558228
when i use wireshark to monitor my traffic, it always amazes me how much junk is being sent, from adobe(and a dozen different program) updates to broadcast messages to the websites i'm visiting. but if you hunt down every ip address its amazing how mundane they are
>>134558399
but i trust a company far more when they publicly claim to protect your privacy over your ISP that publicly claims to not give shit about you.

>>134558718
nah they miss the point entirely, if your actually doing illegal shady shit. then the government will spend the effort to crack your security and find you.
but if your not breaking any laws(atleast major ones, no one cares about stoners and what not) and just want privacy then you should enact all these security measures.

>>134558903
And the ip addresses owned by google e100.net keep constant https traffic under normal browsing. Stop doing anything, it continues.

>>134559320
say what? what security settings are your browsers set to? i always have mine to delete cookies when i close the browser and never accept third party cookies, and i've never had that problem

>>134559320
or are you saying, if you leave your browser up in the background, they keep sending data?

>>134544340
>do you noobs
>noobs
stopped reading there, bye OP!

>>134559057
Hmm personally, I would be worried about things that can be spun to get justification to go after someone. 'Illegal' is a vast term these days, don't forget leafs go to jail over not following trans identity politics.

>>134559469
Firefox noscript no cookies
Etherape

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>>134548053
Don't use dashlane or any centralized/proprietary service. Use KeePass, that way it's 100% managed by yourself and never touched by other people.

>>134559645
Most big websites load dozens of ad-tracking jscript files that run in the background as long as the page is open.

>>134560636
My guess as well. And with noscript, I have temporarily allowed google.

>>134555950
Traceable but not identifiable. They can hypothetically trace the history of your coins but (unless you're a dumbass and use shit like electrum or coinbase) they can't link keys to people.

>>134560636
yeah i'm use to that. i was just surprised that his traffic was compromised after he closed his browser. i wonder if his ACL's are shit, something just seems wrong that his acl/firewalls would allow traffic even after hes closed the app.
>>134560511
yeah i used the free version that didn't back it up online. but i agree with you they are not safe
>>134560636
ahhh i have java turned off, maybe thats why i don't have that problem

>>134544340
Isn't Tor useless on POL/ though ?
I mean yes , you can read but you can't post via Tor. I've tried it , it doesn't work. I can only read posts but not reply.

>>134561118
yep for sure, can only browse pol and not post. unless your willing to get the 4chan pass, which i have always been quite skeptical of

>>134561262
>willing to get the 4chan pass,
Yeah no fuckin' way. I like POL/ but not that much.

>>134561115
Browser was left open, not being used. Traffic will continue indefinitely.

>>134561365
Same here

>>134547843
>then dont use tor, there are other browsers out there, and even though tails is more secure then most OS's they have different ones that don't use the tor newtork.

What's the difference though ? (i've never used tails) is it similar to Tor ? Which one is better ?
Is Tor just more user friendly or is still better in terms of anynomity ?

>>134546605
It doesn't have to be a person looking specifically for you. They can just find everyone who jerks it to futa and blackmail all of them at once.

>>134548742
Yes. Linux won't reactivate the Intel or AMD backdoors in your CPUs if you manage to turn them off. Windows will. Also, unless you disabled Windows Update last year and never turned it back on, all the telemetry spyware from win10 got backported to 7 and 8.1. There is no version of Windows that is safe.

>>134561567
tails is a linux based operating system that forces all internet traffic through tor. i tried using it a few years ago, but tor was so fucking slow back then. its gotten better though
>>134561468
ahhhhh okay, that makes since. its one of the reasons i like tor so much, the security and privacy settings actually keep your info private, but so many companies try to block your access if they can't get your information

>>134561567
Tails is a full operating system that automatically sends all internet traffic through TOR. It is also a 'live system' meaning that when you shut it down all traces of what you did are wiped from the machine. This is useful because often on Windows or Mac there are tricky ways to recover web history even when you use incognito or clear your history, but on tails there is guaranteed to be no trace.

>>134553336
>Implying you can hide online
You dumb bro

Wtf do you even have to hide?

im not worried i only browse and dont really do anything wrong :/

>>134561801
i actually did disable windows update around the time windows 10 was released, also i thought you couldnt disable the intel backdoors?

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>>134544340
>why aren't you using tor
Nice try CIA

>>134562150
i don't want my future employers knowing i spend time on 4chan, this place is known to normies as a racist board full of pedos. or the fact i visit porn sites everyday. also i've found giving almost everyone fake info, keeps my email and actual mail from being spammed with junk mail

>>134547304
>No normie is gonna use a weird OS
You can put Tails onto a 4GB usb stick and boot from it, in fact that's the preferred way of doing it. No screwing around with partitions or any of that shit, it's really easy and it makes TOR usage a lot safer.

>>134562532
Yeah a company really has that capability and would spend that amount of money researching the 100 people they are considering for that one job. They'll check kikebook and that's about it

>>134544340
I cant shitpost here if i use vpn

>>134563009
actually you might be surprised how much info the major corporations collect on people, i wouldn't be a bit surprised if they routinely buy peoples info from ISP's and google

>>134563240
yeah alot of vpn's are banned but not all, i would suggest trying different locations on your vpn. i wonder if its 4chan wanting to track us easier or if its all the shills purposely getting the vpn's range banned

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>>134560511
>>134561115
>didn't take the pen & paper redpill

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>>134552898
I remember reading people get tracked by simply visiting and reading websites like E.F.F.

>>134544340
>subtle shilling for muh "greatly discounted" "hacking" courses

>>134563487
>i wonder if its 4chan wanting to track us easier or if its all the shills purposely getting the vpn's range banned

>>134564434
shit you'll give me money for an hacking class? damn i should have known that before i took a shit job
also torrents have some great books on "ethical hacking" and penetration testing for those interested

>>134564138
>gets hacked because a someone saw the sticky note pasted next to your monitor while you were camwhoring

>>134564138
yeah actually i keep my passwords on a piece of paper in my wallet, not the safest but since its just a list of random words/number combinations i figure i won't get assblasted to hard
>>134564983
yeah i would seriously suggest not leaving your passwords out in the open, maybe in a locked drawer or something

>>134564983
>>134565463
>not remembering passwords
???

>>134565463
Can't tell you how many times I sat at a PC that needed work. Don't want to walk back to server to change their password. Glance around the desk....I'm in.

>>134565594
nah man, its hard, i try and change my passwords every week. also i like to use multiple word passwords like Tr4ps4reG4y for example, so that helps a bit

>>134565825
i remember seeing a webcomic on passwords and how to form them properly, using things like 4 for a and 3 for e doesn't help for password strength. the main factor is length and the range of characters, so instead of using 'B1gHors3101' it's better to do something along the lines of 'Horses101 "Are@rEally biG'

>>134544340
I have never found a VPN that works on 4chan.

>>134565809
lol yeah its fucking sad, i've heard stories of people just going around and collecting peoples passwords, incase they want to remote access in and do shady shit
>>134566112
well it depends, from what i understand most people just get the hash file for your password, and crack your password offline somewhere. so yeah length helps a ton and having all the different bullshit like lower/uper case letters, numbers and special symbols. i have heard spaces make it easier to crack the hash file though

>>134565463
It really comes down to what sort of adversary you're worried about. If you are worried about criminal hackers, then storing your passwords securely on paper is fine. If you're worried about big brother, keep in mind that they could kick the door down at any time and take that shit.
Whereas if you store your passwords ENCRYPTED on your computer using a password manager they cannot force you to divulge the key and if your encryption password is good enough it is practically impossible for them to get access to it. This does not apply to passwords to online services since they can subpoena them at will anyway (provided they aren't already dumping your shit to them via PRISM).
ALSO password managers have a big advantage in that you are more motivated to use longer, harder passwords since you don't have to actually type them. For example my passwords are all at least 30 characters and completely random. No way I would actually put up with that if I had to copy them from a piece of paper.

>>134566143
PIA currently does(posting on it with the isreal connection), although i'll prolly get the latest connection banned for making this thread

>>134566413
very true, pretty much the only reason i stopped using a password manager is because i realized all they( the gubberment) had to do was break into my email account and then they could request a password reset. but yeah i think the password managers are definitely a good option if not the best
which also brings up a good point, encrypt those harddrives people, use bitlocker, if your motherboard doesn't support it, use a usb drive to encrypt that shit

>>134566112
I was upgrading a 75 user network. Knew I would have to log in as each user before we were complete. Did not ask for passwords. Had physical access to SAM. Had every password in less than 2 minutes.

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How to safe password:

>write the password on paper
>insert paper in condom
>swallow condom
>fly to morocco
>export condom
>find goat
>import password into goat
>bury goat
>fly home
>enter password

>>134566516
PIA looks good. Thanks, anon.

>>134566862
Yeah true if it's something like 1password then somebody is storing a recovery key on a server somewhere.
There is open source stuff like Keepass where everything is encrypted locally and only you ever have access to it (also means that you are SOL when you forget the password)
I know people who just store their passwords in an encrypted text file which is pretty damn secure as well.

>>134567113
drawing a blank on what SAM means, but it doesn't surprise me, when we did active directories in class, it was pretty fun learning that with one password i could literally change everyone's password or force password resets or hell just about anything

>>134567575
i heard alot of the encryption stuff on the windows layer, and you could access the binary without it being encrypted, but that was all beyond my skill level

>>134567113
Why is the windows hashing scheme so shit? My $150 gayming GPU can brute force 20 million NTLM hashes a second with hashcat meaning that I could brute force pretty much any password under 9 characters in like an hour.
This is compared to 1000/s with Mac OS making brute force pretty much impossible. How hard is it for Wangblows to just switch to pbkdf2?

VPNs are illegal in Russia. So i don't want to be kicked by FSB.

>>134567761
It is the security database. Brute force in that amount of time. No password was over 8 characters for users. We got the really long software generated one for services in about 48 hrs.

>>134568056
but then all the retards wouldn't be able to get there data back when they take it in to a repair shop
>>134568128
that sucks man, i can understand not wanting the kgb, i mean fsb not pushing your shit in

>>134568274
ahhh for sure, yeah i've found tech support is usually just as lazy as the people we bitch about lol.