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Identitarian Defend Europe ship is on its way

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Defend Europe ship to pass Suez today, on its way to Catania! Leftists lies couldn't stop the boat, the mission is going on.

>A dozen far-right millennials from Europe and North America plan to set sail next week to "defend Europe" from what they call a migrant invasion from Africa, using social media as their weapons.

>The supporters of the Identitarian movement, which says it wants to preserve Europe's identity, have rented a ship to take them to international waters off the Libyan coast so they can monitor humanitarian rescuers, who they say collude with people smugglers who cram migrants onto dangerous boats.

>"There is a difference between saving lives and smuggling people to Europe," Martin Sellner, an Austrian who is leading the effort, told Reuters at Catania's port.

>To raise money for the operation, the Identitarians launched a website in May and have gathered some $170,000, enough to rent the 40-metre (yard) C-Star, which has been repeatedly delayed on its trip from its home port of Djibouti.

>"This massive immigration is changing the face of our streets, of our cities, and soon the people who have been living here for thousands of years will be an endangered minority," Sellner said earlier this month when he announced the sea mission.

http://web.archive.org/article/us-europe-migrants-farright-millennials-idUSKBN1A61J6
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Don't mind us, on our way to start a new reconquista
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Do they even have people who know how to sail a ship?
It's actually not that easy and you need a license
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Godspeed.
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>>134528837
>tfw sent money to this
Have fun lads
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>>134528837
You tried earlier with this thread and no one gave a shit. Ill say what I said then AGAIN.

Unless these faggots are going out and picking up the damned refugees and dropping them back off at the edge of africa at GUNPOINT, after scuttling their ships and burning their supplies/life vests, who gives a fucking shit. They are just wasting everyones time and purposely sticking themselves into a massively dangerous situation that some foreign military is going to have to bail them out of (if their lucky, if not, ISIS or Somali pirates will capture them and either ransom them off, or more likely do tryouts for the new SAW movie with them).

Peaceful/neutral activism achieves NOTHING in the modern world.
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>>134529062
We have activists from the mouvements, an exeprimented sailing crew and ex-military for the security.

>>134529151
Thanks!

>>134529157
>Unless these faggots are going out and picking up the damned refugees and dropping them back off at the edge of africa at GUNPOINT, after scuttling their ships and burning their supplies/life vests

This is literally the plan, you should give a look into it. And it's the first thread I've done about it since last week.
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>>134529157
Also earlier one of the articles said they had already been intercepted and their ship docked.

Mission status: FAIL
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>>134529062
>country with a coastline of just 2,389 km talking about boats

The motorboats Achmed gives your wife while he fucks your wife don't count Lukas.
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>>134529062
We have professionals on the ship and ex navy, do not worry about that we are well prepared.
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>>134529256
Can't you look into the picture in the OP? I see you've eaten the leftists fake news.
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>>134529236
Bullshit. In the last thread it was "They are going to be MONITORING boats, blah blah blah, reporting to blah blah blah"

They need to open fire on the fucking boats and scuttle them. Which will never happen.
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>>134528837
good luck to them, atm the only media we get from off the african coast is cherry picked by the lefty ngo's its about time we had some honest reporting from there and being as they have had they're patreon pages pulled and that boat detained im guessing their reports will be the expose the world needs
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>>134529339
I don't know which thread you're speaking about, but I wasn't there and this is not what we plan to do.

>They need to open fire on the fucking boats and scuttle them. Which will never happen.

Pic related
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>>134529157
>if not, ISIS or Somali pirates will capture them and either ransom them off
>implying ISIS gives a shit
But other than that I agree that they can't do a lot
I mean "contacting the libyan coastguard" isn't very effective since they mostly can't do shit, the only useful thing would be to scare off NGO ships from entering libyan territorial waters but then they could just stop doing that and they couldn't do anything
And the "We're going to destroy the smuggler vessels" thing is also really not an effective strategy since these rubber platforms almost certainly sink on their own
So yeah it's mostly a media stung in my opinion but I think it's good because it shows people that there is opposition to this migration flood
>>134529317
I'm in the navy you fuck I've actually steered a frigate whereas you probably have never entered anything other than cruise ships or fishing boats
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>>134529326
>>134529236
Good to hear, godspeed
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>>134529338
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>>134529062
i assume they hired a professional crew
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>>134529517
Fake news from two days ago, they copied the HatenotHope press release. They were to ones who told Egyptians we were carrying weapons. But the boat is geolocalized and now it's crossing the Suez canal, I've shown you a pic you dense fuck.
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>>134529616
>>134529517
Oh wait I didnt, mb, I fucked up with in op. Here you go
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>>134529616
What's the c-star imo number?
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>>134529616
>we

So you are on the boat? I want fucking proof when you c ucks actually sink a migrant boat and send the niggers back to africa. But you fucks wont, youll grab a few of them out of the ocean, save them, hand them over to libya who will in turn ship them right into europe.

Congrats on doing their job for them.
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>>134528837
This is (((their))) doing.

You won't stop the migrant influx with one fucking boat, but it does appease the anti-migrant sentiment.

The way you stop the migrant crisis is by kicking out the politicians who are making mass migration appealing to those who want to come to Europe. Or instead of kicking them out to be replaced with more politicians of the same agenda on all ends of the political spectrum, just stop thinking that the mainstream governments have any legitimacy whatsoever. Start your own "open source democracy" with independents who are free to say what they want and who can get support from anyone listening.

It would be easy to do with todays technology.
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>Ship has no weapons

This is Sea Shepherd tier.
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>>134528837
>Martin Sellner
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>>134529755
miss me yet?
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>>134528837
Damn, I have enough money saved to take a 6 month vacation thanks to a minimalist lifestyle. I've spent most of my life at sea in the navy and now as a merchant marine. Same for my father too who put me through a maritime academy before the Navy. I would have liked to have volunteered for this but I guess they don't need any help. I have experience dealing with Somali vermin and would love the opportunity to watch their ships sink without an obligation to help.
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>>134529744
IMO: 7392854
Name: C STAR
MMSI: 621819012
Vessel Type: RESEARCH/SURVEY VESSEL

>>134529831
Do you realize the media backlash if the ship was armed? The goal isn't to go on a rampage and kill them, but to attract attention to our message, which is that we need an NO WAY australian type policy because this is an invasion and NGOs are helping smugglers. We already got lots of coverage, even national live italian television.

>>134529838
ebin
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>>134529461
>I'm in the navy you fuck

The bloody GERMAN navy you dumb fuck. If the German Army has to use brooms to train soldiers you cunts are probably sailing around in wooden bathtubs with big black dildos for oars.
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>>134529909
one of the biggest historical mistakes ever made.
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>>134529765

How to get two tapped by the CIA: Anon's guide.
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>>134529968
Ty m8
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>>134529831
>no weapons

>b-b-but seriously guise, when we see da bad migrant boats doing da bad thing we are going to intervene, we swear!

With what? Harsh language?

I mean, yeah, I would LOVE for you guys to actually do SOMETHING, but I dont see it happening. Too many fuckers these days who do stupid stunts like this thinking peaceful intervention will do anything. Violence has to be met with violence, we gave peace a chance for too long, and at every turn its been met with violence. Time to repay the favor or just roll over and l;et them come, because they will, no matter what. Seeing the response to the Grande concert attack, in which fucking CHILDREN were killed, and the cUKc response was to hold hands and sing a fucking oasis song......

Were all doomed unless someone finally says enough is enough and fights back.
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>>134529968
>media backlash
who cares about that, they would have been arrested if they had weapons on board. ignore the salt of armchair generals who are butthurt that someone is actually doing something beyond tweeting BLACKED pics at feminists
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>>134530011
checked and keked
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>>134528837
They will be all gunned down by smugglers or harvested for bodyparts

F
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>>134529953
Maybe next time, if this one is successful. For this first mission we could only take trusted people in.

>>134530056
Noice

>>134530074
You're right, I usually ignore obvious trolls or retards, but I have to clarify things for lurkers.
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>>134529968
oh wow, the propaganda bewegung already knows how to shop their SupremeLeader™ into larger-than-life
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>>134530150
good luck on your mission
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>>134529461
>I'm in the navy you fuck

I haven't heard many good things about the German military in general. I assume the Navy is probably the worst since well Germany has never been known for it's naval prowess. Although given how autistic you people are you probably aren't too shit at what you do either.
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>>134530011
Pic related was my ship
Not the actual one so you can't dox me but it was a ship of the same 123 brandenburg class type
>bathtubs
I wish we had that, steel shower cabins were the best thing we got
>the German Army has to use brooms to train soldiers
That's the army not the navy, navy is actually pretty well equipped but understaffed
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>>134528837
enjoy your prison time
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>>134530059

So when are you going out there to fight back against the refugee hordes? Oh right you won't because you're an edgy faggot
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>>134530305
worth it
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>>134528837
I still don't exactly understand what they plan to do when they see the refugee boats. Sink them?
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>>134530351
No, because im in america and right now ICE is doing a pretty good job of it. Thinking about applying for a position with them in all honesty.

Honestly I feel like I felt more rage and anger over the kids who died at that concert than their own people did.
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>>134530420
>worth it
true, but if they actually try to stop a ship
they will be in prison faster than they can say shitskin
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>>134530431
See pic >>134529423

Also, coordinate with libyan coastguards to pick up migrants before NGOs and send them back to Africa.
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>>134528837
Even if they don't have a lot of success the propaganda is pure gold. They can't hide that a civil disobedience is brewing.
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>>134530265
> I assume the Navy is probably the worst
It's not that big but it's quality over quantity, the vessels we have tend to be very well suited for their purposes and our submarines have the most advanced drive technology in the world
>Germany has never been known for it's naval prowess
Kaiser Wilhelm II my dude
>Although given how autistic you people are you probably aren't too shit at what you do either.
We try at least
Soldiers in the navy spend very little time at home because we're involved in a lot of missions like ATALANTA or SOPHIA but we're understaffed so we have to make the best of it
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Got guns to protect yourselves from somalian pirates?
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>>134530431
Nope

"report them"

Like I said, theyll be doing the job for them, theyll hand them over to the coast guard who will ship them right into europe.

And thats if they even last more than a week.
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>>134528837
>>134529236
>>134529338
>>134529338
>>134529423
>>134529616
>>134529655
>>134529968
>>134530150
pic posted 3 days ago on twitter

pic with timestamp showing your at sea or your not on the boat or still being detained
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>>134530059
Are you retarded? They can't use violence, it's against the law. They'll end up getting arrested and that'll be the end of their movement. You're either a shill or just braindead.
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>>134530615
>they'll hand them over to the coast guard who will ship them right into europe.
this is what i don't understand
they aren't doing anything but possibly saving lives of the immigrants
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>>134530588
>Somalian pirates
>in the mediterranea

Anon, I...

The threat would be libyan smugglers, but that would be for them to take a lot of risks, especially since we're already in contact with libyan coastguards.

>>134530618
I'm obviously not on the boat and I've never prenteded to be, I'm just part of the identitarian grooup. Btw no identitarian is onboard yet, the crew for the mission will embark in Catania.
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>>134530615

The libyan coast guard is not going to ship them into europe you lying cunt. Fuck off already. The Belgian guy is actually a part of this, he knows more than your retarded ass
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>>134530754
Showing to get them to Italy, like NGOs do, is not the only way. Showing NGOs actively help or even communicate with smugglers. Showing something can actually be done and it's not a fatality. And spreading our ethnonationalist anti immigration anti islam message in the MSM.
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>>134530754
The libyan coast guard just said to them "lol, yeah, well send them back" and they have bought it hook line and sinker.

Im not even saying they should kill them or anything, im saying drive your big gay boat right to the african coast line and drop them off yourselves. Its the only way to be 100 percent sure.

I mean, really, do you guys seriously think the coast guard isnt in on this shit? That they arent getting their palms greased by whatever "humanitarian" group it is that sets this shit up, gives them the boats and supplies?
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>>134530524
It's not civil disobedience if they don't break the law. These guys are afraid to break the law because "it will end their movement." The truth is, this will accomplish nothing and it's just an excuse for soft millennials to hang out with each other in a boat doing "activism".
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>>134530807
>the crew for the mission will embark in Catania
when will that be
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>>134530303
Jesus christ the german surface navy is garbage.
Just fucking look at that fucking poverty frigate, I bet Blohm und Voss gave your government a real nice discount on that shit.

Too bad there won't be a war that could turn that floating garbage into an unterseeboot
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>>134530150
Is the AIS turned off right now? Vesselfinder can only give me a last received position from a few hours ago
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>>134528837
We need the support of Based Poseidon!
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>>134530890
God's speed and thank you so much for your efforts. I'm going to donate to your group and hopefully join the English branch.
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>>134528837
>a boat
>using social media as a weapon

They better have some torpedoes or a John Gatling invention on board.
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>>134530543
>and our submarines have the most advanced drive technology in the world
>Literally just a diesel electric

Get back to us when your boats split the atom hans
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>>134530955
As soon as the ship arrives. Because of Hope not Hate (antifa british org) the ship was blocked in Egypt for a few days, that hurt us because now Italians politicians are talking about the mission. Some Parliament members and even Catania mayor want to block us.

>>134531087
Thank you very much! There's not chapter in the UK or Ireland yet. We had 3 good lads in London, but they stopped trying after Brexit.
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>>134528837
>a fucking boat
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>>134531045
Posiedon you cunt,

where were you when this all started.

fucken faggot
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>>134531017
I don't think so, I believe the satellite position can only be actualised every few hours on these websites. Are you sure you can track it in real time? The guys in Catania are in touch with the boat but I'm not there myself.
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>>134530303
I see this hunk of floating trash and now I truly understand why most nations either buy british or american, or even fucking soviet/russian, or develop their own shit, instead of buying German MEKO garbage.
I mean the fucking dutch took one look at your shit and bought the rights to a Spanish frigate instead.
Poland bought one MEKO OPV and then proceeded to beg borrow and steal to buy OHP's from the US to upgrade.

What a fucking joke. Stick to Submarines and cargo ships
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>>134529765
As long as there are foreign people who are willing to work for cheap salarues you will have migration. Even Nazi Germany wouldn't miss the chance to save money.
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>>134530047
Its easy to start. Its basically 4 chan, but instead of boards you can have nations and policies, and you can debate and argue the points and up vote or downvote the policies you want and "pin" policies that are agreeable.
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>>134529157
>>134529339
There are going to be guns, they are going to be pointed at niggers if needed be, but they're not going to go around talking about it because then the accusations against them for piracy is going to be easier to make stick.
There is going to be security, and if/when they pick up a "distressed" nigger migrant boat and the niggers try to revolt when they find out they're going to be dropped off in Tunesia rather than Sicily, there is going to be blood, and little if any is going to be from white people.
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>>134530265
we defeated the brits in the battle of jutland
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>>134531006
How is it garbage?
It has two RAM batteries, VLS launcher with max 16 missiles (it's usually just 8 though because it's a decent place for storage and you never need VLS) in the front and 4 EXOCET missiles, aside from the OTO MELARA 76 mm automatic front cannon, we can shoot planes with the fucking thing, the two MLGs next to the bridge and the torpedoes

The two radars are really good and also its purpose is anti submarine warfare, that's why it has two hangars for sea lynx helicopters that can track and destroy submarines
It's not the newest type though, the brandenburg calss was commissioned in the 90s I think
Our newest class is the 124 type, they are much more comfy to live in and look a bit better but I liked it
>>134531407
Fuck off
What did the polish buy then? The only ships we sell are from the 80s and older
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>>134529909
One tragedy that will never be forgotten.
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>>134531140
Educate yourself https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_cell
>>134531404
Yeah most ships you can track in real time there with maybe a few minutes delay
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how can you stop the migrant crisis without stopping the Jews responsible for the migrant crisis?
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>>134531585
They bought Oliver Hazard Perry's because the OPV you sold them was utter meme shit. They canceled the order for more and bought OPV's instead.

>It has two RAM batteries, VLS launcher with max 16 missiles
This is why the poles bought the OHP, they are doing the mod that ?raytheon? proposed to the US Navy - put over 30 VLS on the OHP, move the 76mm OTO, add RAM, etc.

The exocet is fucking garbage tier btw, the Poles realized this. VLS AShM's are muuuccch better, and they have access to cheap Harpoons for low tier threats
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>>134529326
>we

Quit LARPing Frederico
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>>134529838
Me on the left
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Protip: Collect the AIS (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_identification_system) data from any migrant ships.

Since passenger ships are legally obligated to have an AIS system you can report smugglers how don't have them at least. It's not a huge crime but it might get there boats impounded.

As for the ones that do have them (and have them turned on) getting the number will make them easier to track.
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>>134531140
dysel-batterie / fuel cell plays in a other leaqu compared to nuclear in terms of noise
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>>134531962
I am an identitarian, OP can confirm
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>>134532074
Aye
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>>134528837
Finally a humanitarian vessel in the med
Enough human traffic

If they accidentally ram one of the NGO's vessels no one would complain
Go identitarians!
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>>134532074
>>134532122
How big is the GI movement in Italy and Belgium?

Are there any non-white members?

Keep up the good work by the way.
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>>134531585
The radars are shit bro. NATO won't even give you AEGIS. We gave SPAIN and the fucking DUTCH AEGIS, your shit is fucking TRASH and the only people buying MEKO garbage Frigates/Corvettes/OPV's now are fucking turks and third worlders.
The Poles licensed one MEKO OPV and said NO MORE

Look at it like this kraut, Israel takes the Type 212's (sub) your government gives them for practically free, but they won't touch your Corvettes with a ten foot pole, preferring to either make them themselves, or as of recently with the Sa'ar 5, have Huntington Ingalls in the USA make them.

Maybe I'll call up your build a boat workshop, Blohm und Voss, and have them make a funeral fire boat that I can remotely pilot up and down the Rhine whilst on fire, signifying the death of German Naval might and the German people as a whole
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how many migrants did the last boat stop? any?
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>>134532299
Never met a non white member, it wouldnt really make sense for them to be part of the movement anyway.

The movement just started getting strong in Italy but its steadily growing and i believe we have a lot of potential.
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Who's funding the Identitarian Movement?
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>>134532299
No non whites are members. We're a pro european (civilisation, cultures and people) mouvement, and to be European is to be white. We're not United colors of Benetton.

In Belgium it has just recently started (I'm French, I just work here) and there's 25 people in Flanders after a few months. In Italy I have no idea of a number but I know it's growing fast. In France nearly 2.000, in Austria several hundreds and same in Germany. We also have small chapters in Switzerland, Czechia and Slovenia.
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>>134532315
what last boat? are you high?
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>>134531726

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_cell
ooooo so you can stay submerged 5 days longer and move 15% faster and quieter than other diesel electrics.
You'll still get your ass trounced by a 686i. That shit can stay submerged INDEFINITELY and hit any fucking target in Germany. But you know what, fuck that.

We have Ohio's. You'll never, ever have an SSBN, the western world will never,.ever allow Germany a fucking nuclear weapon. Street shitting Paki's are more prefferable to have nukes than fucking Germans
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>>134531802
>the OPV you sold them was utter meme shit
Which was it then? What was its name?
>The exocet is fucking garbage tier btw
Well it's old and we currently just use them up in exercises because they aren't produced anymore, never said it's good
We're replacing them with AGM 84 Harpoons right now
>VLS AShM's are muuuccch better
That's why the 124 type in germany has 32 VLS cells instead of just 16
They probably just bought our old crap, no wonder they didn't like it
>>134532308
APAR and SMART-L/S are perfectly sufficient for our purposes
The only really old thing you see on the pic is the LW08
>they won't touch your Corvettes with a ten foot pole
I don't defend the corvettes, a big part of them is constructed by a fucking swiss company because they made the cheapest offer
Surprisingly they didn't know shit about how to build ships and we had to pay a bunch of additional costs and had corvettes that didn't work properly for years
The new type is decent though
>Maybe I'll call up your build a boat workshop, Blohm und Voss, and have them make a funeral fire boat that I can remotely pilot up and down the Rhine whilst on fire, signifying the death of German Naval might and the German people as a whole
Fuck off we simply don't need such a big navy for what we're doing with it
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>>134532315
This is the first mission.

>>134532501
Only private donnors. Mostly ourselves actually, regular people, students or young workers. You bet we're not getting any national gov or UE funding... For this mission with the ship, we started a crowfunding.
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>>134532315
they didn't stop any, they let them aboard.
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>>134532691
For what we can have it's the best though, it's the only technology that's really kept top secret because the chinese are after it quite hard
Also didn't know the US wants to start a war with us
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>>134532060
686i's are among the quietest boats on the planet, and 774's???? Shhhhiiieeeet.
You aren't even going to detect a 774 parked right at the mouth of your home port ffs
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>>134532742
What about Jews? Are they banned from the movement? Otherwise they will join sooner or later and ruin it.
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>>134532856
It's very difficult to detect ANY submarine, if you do it's mostly too late or you were lucky
Even the shitty iranian garbage tier subs could pose a significant threat to surface vessels
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>>134530890
>Showing NGOs actively help or even communicate with smugglers.

This is the most interesting part, desu.. From what I understand the NGO ships more or less run a ferry service from a few miles out of the Libyan coast. This in itself is bad enough, but collusion with smugglers would mean they're downright criminally liable for the people that drown on those rickety ships trying to reach them.
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>>134530928
>I mean, really, do you guys seriously think the coast guard isnt in on this shit?
Sure they are.. But I doubt they'll be bringing the migrants to Europe themselves.
>That they arent getting their palms greased by whatever "humanitarian" group it is that sets this shit up, gives them the boats and supplies?

It would be interesting if that were to be documented, which is one of the things OP mentioned. Are you even reading the goddamn thread?
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>>134528837
(((Generation Identitaire))) in a nutshell :

"I was excited about this Identitarian movement at first. Pro-European rhetoric, actually doing stuff other than walking around with signs and slogans. Thought it was pretty based of them to scale the Brundenburg Gate and occupy that Mosque. Maybe I'll even get in a scrap or two with these guys.
I wanted to do something other than shitpost and trigger the odd libtard at a bar so I got in contact with my fellow, local, European nationalists about joining. The person I was communicating with wanted to know where I was from and why I wanted to get involved etc so that was ok. Then they sent me these two guidelines.
1. GI is no old-right wing movement. We don't allow activists who are a part of any kind of national socialist/fascist group or have such ideas. We will include Jewish members, gay members etc as activists.
2. We don't make any chauvinist remarks about other religions/ethnicities/races - not even for fun. We strive to be the avant-garde of this generation.
Just to subtly point out the obvious double-standards, I said 'Ok, are Spanish people allowed to join? (This branch of GI is not based in Spain) and they said 'yes, this is a pan-European movement' so I asked 'Are Indians allowed to join?' No reply. But Jews are European now apparently."
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>>134532742
Is there an official online store where people can buy a GI tshirt or something?
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>>134532690
>>134532690
pic related. so how many did it stop?
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>>134532717
ORP Ślązak
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ORP_%C5%9Al%C4%85zak_(2015)
Poles licensed a MEKO-100

It was to be the Gawron class of Missile Corvettes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gawron-class_corvette
After ONE FUCKING HULL the poles canceled the project and converted it into an Offshore Patrol Vessel, and are now considering buying a export corvette/frigate class from the US - either based on the Legend Cutter, or a COTS design by huntington ingalls (makers of Saar 5).

Not to fucking mention the Poles bought Oliver Hazard Perry's over German MEKO-200 Frigates for fucks sakes.
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>>134533124
>But Jews are European now apparently

Have been, for a while m8...
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>>134533124
>Jewish members
ew, ruined
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Do you guys encourage high birth rates amongst your members? Are traditional gender roles encouraged?
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>>134532495

Aside from membership fees, Italian citizenry, residence and ancestry, what are the requirements to join?
I have seen your remigration policy on your website and it's very good, minus a couple of points (the UN agency seems like you are trolling).
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>>134533165

>that filename

I see you Moarpheus. Scurry away now you little rat fuck.
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>>134533165
that's the mission you tard
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>>134533083
Of course he isn't, he's just sperging because some people are actually doing something instead of shitposting.

>>134533124
Could I get a source on that please? Both this message and the claims. Like a screencap of the "answer". I smell bullshit.

>>134533163
Yes, this one's the french http://www.boutique-identitaire.com/16-t-shirts
And this one's the austrian https://phalanx-europa.com/en/

>>134533283
Of course we do, we promote a traditionnal lifestyle.
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>>134533240
>>134533124
Really? I know that Jews aren't allowed in the American branch.
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>>134529151
me too, I look up marine traffice every morning, when having a nice coffee.
quality of life improve tenfold, godspeed motherfuckers
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>>134533283
idents are just another facet of the Dugin cult. try not to fall for the scam.

>>134533310
>>134533373
how many did it stop?
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> We don't make any chauvinist remarks about other religions/ethnicities/races - not even for fun. We strive to be the avant-garde of this generation.

This looks pretty bad. Are GI against free speech (under the guise of being against 'hate' speech and X-phobia)?
You can't win by being concerned about leftist indignation.
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>>134533220
>MEKO-100
That's a corvette idiot what I posted is a fucking frigate
Also in the article it says they cancelled it because they couldn't afford it anymore due to the financial crisis
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>>134533379
He's bullshiting. Or else, he will provide a proof.

>>134533400
Some Austrians are reading Dugin, yes. That's it.

The mission has not started yet.

>>134533454
This is fake, don't fall for it.
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>>134533400
the mission just started you doublenigger
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>>134532717
AGM-84 Harpoons
Welcome to 35 years ago Kraut, meantime the US, British, and Russian navies can take out your shit from outside the baltics you fucking nincompoop.

>That's why the 124 type in germany has 32 VLS cells instead of just 16

oooooo 32 cells good for you!

And yet it pales in comparison to 90 and 122 cells doesn't it. Esp when you don't have Standard or Standard ERAM, ESSM (lol seriously you faggots still use Sea Sparrow HAHAHA), VLASROC, or TLAM

Your navy is a fucking joke Hans. It will be sunk in a real shooting war, which needs to happen because Germany was a mistake
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>This is fake, don't fall for it.

Glad to know that, thx.
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>>134533541
the entire alt-right leadership from southern to spencer to sellner follow Dugin: an anti-white, anti-american literal satanist.

altright, idents and et al. are just manifestations of his political cult.
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>>134533285
Be european, a nationalist that wants to stop the big replacement and to preserve our cultures and traditions.
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>>134533575
how many? :)
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>>134533666
You're a retard. Spencer being anti american? Can you get more idiotic?

>>134533745
That was the staunt to launch the fundraising, it was near the Italian coast to disrupt a NGO departing to Libya.
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>>134533666
>>134533745

Stop going on about Dugin you schizophrenic retard. No one cares
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>>134533666
Nice try kike

If Russia wanted America/Europea to be weak, they would encourage white people to have less children, not more.
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>>134533666

Dugin is anti-white and anti-American and he prattles on endlessly like a leftist academic about U.S. racism.

But I don't think he's a satanist. Quite the opposite. He seems to want orthodox Christianity to rule earth.
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>>134533816
Dugin is anti-American and anti-white.
Spencer is a Duginite.

>>134533850
>stop exposing out satanic cult leader tho!
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>>134533850
What an autist
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>>134533669
>Be european, a nationalist that wants to stop the big replacement and to preserve our cultures and traditions.

Good. I think I'll join soon.
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>>134533864
"anti-American" is code for "I am brown and scared of white nationalism" on /pol/
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>>134533666
Shill, but nice satanic trips.
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>>134533588
> you don't have Standard or Standard ERAM, ESSM
We do have ESSM faggot
>Your navy is a fucking joke Hans. It will be sunk in a real shooting war, which needs to happen because Germany was a mistake
Let's see mister 56%, at least we still stand a chance, you're just doomed
How does it feel to know you're children will be eating nigger dick for breakfast all their life?
Oh wait you don't have children and probably never will because the only women willing to reproduce with you are either black or hookers
So yeah enjoy your miserable existence, I'm in the navy to visit the seychelles for free and get paid for it, you're just a larping faggot pretending to know shit and trolling on anime boards to get some dopamin into his beta brain
Do the world a favor and kill yourself
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>>134533937
same
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>>134532717
>I don't defend the corvettes, a big part of them is constructed by a fucking swiss company because they made the cheapest offer

Shifting the blame to a fucking LANDLOCKED country, esp. when said country is actually more German than Germany itself, lol
The eternal lower germanic everyone

>APAR and SMART-L/S are perfectly sufficient for our purposes
Those purposes being getting jammed and detected by a Russian AWAC's aircraft over Riga right? And then sunk by a fucking Kilo with a torpedo tube launched AShM from thousands of meters beyond your engagement envelope?

>Fuck off we simply don't need such a big navy for what we're doing with it

You don't need a Navy period, in fact you shouldn't have one - only reason you do is because of NATO obligations - but you fulfill that obligation in the most half assed way possible with ships that will get Germans killed when shit goes hot
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>>134530059
Are you an Activist? No, you're not, you're faggot on internet. You have no idea how activism and propaganda works. Stunt like this are important to gain free publicity and attrack more people to join your cause. Shitposting memes on 4chan won't do jack shit.
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>>134533864
Dugin is anti-white and so is anyone who follows him.

>>134533894
he's literally a satanist. he follows the left-hand path and more specifically, a style of Satanism called Chaos-Gnosticism. all of this will be proven on spencergate over the coming days.

>>134533951
in the meantime, i plea with all of you to abandon these false teachers. i appeal to your reason.
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>>134533964
Unless you literally just fucking bought it no you don't - Sea Sparrow is not ESSM
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>>134534045
Nice fake quote.
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>>134533916

>I'm not schizophrenic, I just think everyone in the alt-right belongs to a satanic cult

Really made me think
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>>134529317
It is truly sad to see how low the quality of Australian Bantz has come over the years.

I am not even sure if this poster is a native Austrian, he might be an illegal.
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>>134530618
https://www.vesselfinder.com/?imo=7392854
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>>134534141
heres the source
http://www.azquotes.com/quote/1177749

>>134534175
I used to be a teacher within the Current 218. I know the lingo, I know the people. I'm working on Dugin's expose as we speak, Finnshill.
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>>134532742
I'm always wondering if there are redpilled Soros like guys, I'm sure those must exist somewhere and if they do they must have contacted you in some way or an other
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>>134534138
We have ESSM since 2005 but only 124 type is equipped with it
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>>134534242
>azquotes
Anyone can upload a quote there. It's like Wikipedia but less moderated.
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>>134529151
Same here

Godspeed based boat guys
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>>134531407
>Former leader of the free world gets visibly upset at the new Leader of the Free World.

Its pathetic.
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>>134531171
>Some Parliament members and even Catania mayor want to block us.

Can't you just take a small motorboat and board the ship on the open sea without having to worry about some leftist agitation?
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>>134534242
>Everybody's a shill but me
>Look how I shitpost everywhere, isn't this a proof?
>Why aren't you doing nothing like me?
>Don't try doing anything for the white race, you shill

Do you even realize how retarded you look?

>>134534277
Some of our donors are wealthy, but nowhere near Soros. For the fundraising, one guy gave 2.500 dollars, this is our biggest donation yet.

>>134534355
Thanks!
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>>134533964
You don't stand a chance Hans, the USA is hundreds upon hundreds of miles of vast open nigger free territory, nigs live in cities, I merely need to fucking move and I go from seeing them daily to seeing them less than once a quarter.

BTW you useless faggot, I served in a real fucking Navy you puddle pirate scumbag, with real nuclear reactors, and real nuclear warheads and actual over the horizon capability. Enjoy your undeserved pleasure
cruise.

The question you should be asking yourself is does Germany deserve your service? Germany doesn't even deserve to exist as a unified state, it does not deserve your time and energy
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>IDs
>Dugin
Shills are so obvious it is sad
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>>134534394
That would get us less media exposure and we want our message to spread, but of course if we have to we will do such a thing.
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Idk how things will go further. But if Antifa has contact with ISIS, then get the evidence and make it obvious what they are doing. By any means, the only threat are just the human smugglers.

>Sinking empty boats
Which is something usual to avoid human traffickers and NGOs from trafficking illegal migrants to Italy

>Documenting and gathering evidence
Yup, a camera crew also will get onboard to gather hard evidence to be used against the NGO ships.

>Bringing illegal migrants back to Libya
That will discourage human traffickers from smuggling. They will get gather the illegal migrants by SOS-signals and other ways. They will be rescued before and then brought back to Libya.

When this mission gets successful, then the NGOs got #rekt
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>>134534297
I dont understand the reasoning behind your strategy.

>im going to deny, deflect, degrade and bullshit the truth for this thread so people here might not believe moarpheus

but this is just one thread, anon. what happens when i destroy the lie all together? then how will you bullshit? in fact you simply make the People believe more stoutly in their resolve once they do learn the truth. you make their new belief unshakeable because they'll have realized their old, out-dated beliefs were founded upon mis-truth. not only this but they will resent the very people who told them these lies. you do my work for me without even realizing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ_sENuZljU


>>134534409
the white race does not need me to do anything for it but speak the truth in its presence. the white race will save itself.
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>>134534451
>LARPing
>Reddit spacing
>Oy vey goy just give up already
Found the shill
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>>134534451
> I served in a real fucking Navy
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>134534561
>national review
lmao, a neocon magazine owned by kikes
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>>134530543
Wilhelmshaven hier

Ahoi, Kamerad!
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>>134534451
>>134533964

pls stfu. military power is only used for (((globalist interests) anyways with the current political elite.
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Gonna laugh when nothing happens and all of these anons just ended up shelling out for Lauren's vacation.
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>>134534615
Ahoi!
Welche Verwendungsreihe?
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>>134534676
She's not even in the crew anymore, too much risks. We'll only take able men.
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>>134534366
>new Leader of the Free World.

18,000 Paratroopers
3 days notice
Largest Navy in the world
50,000 Marines within a month

Let us know when you really want to take us on...

Go ahead, make that EU Army, end NATO - I fucking dare you. Germany will cease to exist as a unified state and the eternal Anglo can get back to his favorite past time
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>>134534613
>attacking the source but not the claim

You act as though I don't understand "salvation by sin."
You act as though I do not know the Aghori and why they indulge.
You act as though I have not traversed the Tree myself - from Malkuth to Kether.
You act as though I have not understood the whirling Chaos of Kelipot, nor slept in Sitra Achra.

You act as though I don't understand the Plot.
This is a mis-step on your part.
The war we fight is not just geo-political but spiritual.
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>>134533993
>>134533937
Contattateci su facebook per organizzare un incontro, per domande io son qua
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>>134534841
All the article says is that Dugin believes in the evil vs. good theory, and that he sees Russia as the good guys. Wow, so terrible.

Dugin hated Bush/Clinton America (i.e.: neocon neoliberal kikery). Everybody hates Bush/Clinton America. He doesn't hate Trump America, so right now he doesn't mind America.
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>>134534409
Poor Germany...
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>>134534762
wise decision, id rape her and im not even a migrant
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>>134534948
again you run to your own misfortune.
your strategy is weak, your thinking 2 dimensional.
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>>134534661
East Germany should never have been allowed to reintegrate. Should have gave the shit to Poland and the Czech's - now Germany is going to make an EU army and break europe off of the American Tit and out of NATO.

This is a grave mistake, that will only end in Berlin bathed in nuclear fire. The only way forward for Europe is the Anglo and Eastern European way
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>>134532641
You have a Spanish branch too.

Portuguese branch when???
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>>134530615
That's retarded.

What they need to do is sink those boats in a similar fashion to the opening of TDKR.

Get Martin to fund divers outfitted with Dive Propulsion Vehicles. Let them stealthy get to the side of the boat, poke it full of holes or disable the engine, and stealthy go back to the pirate ship.
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>>134535162
No we do not have a spanish branch, probably some unofficial group
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>>134535067
The only source for Dugin being anti-white is a fake quote. Him being "anti-American" (i.e.: anti Bush/Clinton) doesn't make him a bad person, quite the opposite. He has had positive words for America recently.

You are a piece of shit. You support neocon Bush, you support neoliberal Clinton, and you support the kikes. Into the oven you go.
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>>134535162
No, these guys are an autonomous group using our logo and name. We're trying to work things out with them, to see if they're smart people we can take in.
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>>134529062
Don't be such a negative Nancy.

These guys are an international organised movement. Of course they will have people who know what they are doing
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The IDs are on the right track. 2014 was the beginning of them in Austria and many criticized Sellner for pushin the Dugin narrative. Just to let you know he is a philosophy student so he read many different things with different world views. Most members in Germany and Austria are red pilled on the JQ but there are official guidelinies to avoid getting banned from the authorities. The US spergs need to remember we dont have a first ammendment. You talk too bad about the jews? Have fun in prison.
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>>134534924
Il problema è che vivo in mezzo ai monti nelle marche, al massimo vi do supporto sui social
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>>134530615
Libyan coast guard will take them back to libya which is what they want to do. If you believe the leftists they'll put them straight into torture camps.
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>>134529236
You Identarian lot need to make a general thread on here and keep it alive.
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>>134535245
You can screech all you like, anon.
But I will expose his Satanic connections very soon. The 11 cannot break the 10 because 11 is illusory. As for Bush no: I support no one but myself.

Dugin encourages white genocide against the Ukrainians just as his Communist ancestors did. He is not worthy of the title "Rasputin" - he is a counterfeit soon let naked and exposed.
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>>134534242
I could be wrong, but weren't there rumors that Dugin was booted from Soviet Communist Party in the '80's for occultism? I always got the impression that it was a bit more than just Thule dabbling.
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>>134533454
That's absurd. ID are on video making fun of Muslims.

Nearly the entire Czech branch is ex National Anarchists/Autonamous Nationalists (weird artist type of Nazi).

Verhassel filmed himself Nazi saluting. Plenty of members of bloc Identitaire are ex skinheads.
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>>134535437
I really dislike to start threads because it looks like money grabbing or shilling. I rarely does, unless there's big news. The leftist narrative that the boat was blocked was one.
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>>134535401
Non conosco tutte le sezioni ma fossi in te un messaggio lo manderei lo stesso, ovvio puoi aiutarci anche cosi comunque
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>>134535481
Yeah. Dugin is an edgy /fringe/lord Satanist. So he created the Nazbol Party and this is what you see Spencer and others spreading. But like most magick practitioners he missing the higher point of the practice and falls prey to Qlippoth. Duginism = Satanism
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>>134535507
Of course most members are ex member of old right groups because they are the only ones willing to show their face publicly and face the consequences.
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>>134535455
More fake quotes without sources. Nice.
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>>134535245
I've read a feeble of Dugin's books. In the 4th political theory he directly advocates for radicalizing and exploiting "marginalized" peoples in the USA to help destroy it. He views Americanism (globalization of Constituional liberty, God given rights, and self determination for individuals) as the absolute destruction of the world. He derides even the concept of human rights.
He's very much anti America and as someone who voted Trump, his support and 180 turn post election concerned me.
Also, Dugin has cuck eyes and looks like a huge pussy.
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>>134535694
Read a few*
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Crowley spoke of people like Dugin.
He called them the Black Brothers: magicians who attained a degree of revelation but who fell prey to the Chaos-Demon Chronozon. Their practice resulting not in inner calm and outward perfection but mental conflict and expressed hatred. He is nothing and will fall like the others.

>>134535686
>muh fake quote!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ-uqmnwKF8
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>>134535686
For someone such as yourself who has the GOP elephant, I would think Dugin's hyper anti-individualism would be especially disconcerting.
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>>134535613
Of course the eurasian Duginism thing is crap. I dont think Spencer is a Duginist or really likes his idead but is rather influenced by his russian ex wife. The IDs are not pushing Duginism. There was a phase in the beginning were the anti russia sentiment from the european elites lead to symphaties towards people like Dugin who praised this Eurasian thing. The philisophical orientation also had aspects from Dugin in the beginning, but I dont see any influence of him over the IDs now.
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>>134535694
There's nothing American about globalization of individualism or imperialism. America is a white country that used to mind its own businesses until the kikes took over.
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>>134535830
Individualism is meaningless in a non-white country.
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>>134535851
spencer, along with his tranny wife, are duginists.
so is sellner and the others. they follow him because they have not educated themselves in philosophy nor the occult arts, and so listen to him as an authority. bad mistake.
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>>134535281
Interesting you say that because an Irish group called Generation Identity Éire using the Lambda is actually launching today in Dublin:

https://facebook com/giEIRE/
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>>134535826
7 seconds video can't fit that quote.
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Press conference about the mission soon

>>134535918
You should just stop giving attention to autism.

>>134535966
We know. It's the same thing. We're trying to reach out to them.
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Good luck, keep the cameras recording, so you don't get framed.
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>>134535884
>a white country that minded its own business

I'm sure the Indians would agree wholeheartedly. The world is a history of imperialism and conquerers. You're embarssing yourself if you think otherwise.
But even if I allow you that delusion, Dugin is hyper cucked. He has chapter upon chapter extolling the virtues of blacks, I believe he might even mention Aztlan at some point. He is not your friend. After those comments, i am now positive you've never read even one of his works in their entirety.
Or you're a Kremlin shill, in which case the elephant is an amusing touch.
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>>134535989
not sure if youre really this uneducated in the matter or just a sub-par shill. why attack something so easily proven?
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>>134536023
>stop giving attention to autism
For a non Duginist group, you sure seem triggered by anyone criticizing him.
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>>134536023
22..th?
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>>134536141
I would support imperialism if it was white supremacy, but this isn't the Bush/Clinton imperialism we are talking about.
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>>134535613
>>134535851
>>134535950
>t. nationalist retards
tfw intelligent erudite sellner/dugin block member (unironically), pic very related

btw. we are reactionaries - no need to apply exotic names like duginism

like carlistas or jacobites, just in the modern day
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>>134536146
>KIKEPEDIA
lmao
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>that yellow flag

Nah, m8's

Use this flag instead
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>>134536295
We don't have any native anglophone in Catania. Sorry about this.
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>>134536146
Im torn myself. He has that stubborn retardation that many public school educated Americans have, and he continues to regurgitate storefront memes, but could be shill. It's a tough call.
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>>134535561
don't, it is fine.
/pol/ is shilled into trash anyways atm.
example near to you: Lauren Southern.
> Endless repetitive nauseating shill threads in preparation
> next thing: patreon nuked
80% of /pol/ posters atm too retarded to recognize pattern
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>>134529765

>t. Keyboard Warrior
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>>134536410
The source for the claim on Wikipedia:
https://www.ft.com/content/a87747de-a713-11e4-b6bd-00144feab7de

(((Financial Times))) and under a paywall, so can't be read

Wow, you sure showed me with your intellectualism, motherfucking idiot. You are a gullible retard.
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>>134530011
Nah the German Navy lads are sound
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>>134536335
Dugin calls himself a practitioners of the LHP, so it seems disrespectful to call him anything but the Satanist he is.

>>134536374
>kikepedia
source is given in the page, anon. again: why attack something so easily proven? your strategy is bad.

Jones, Sam; Hope, Kerin; Weaver, Courtney (28 January 2015). "Alarm bells ring over Syriza's Russian links". Financial Times.

>>134536410
this is just a persona, anon. consider it a strategic "insight role." all that matters if that you cant deny my claims because theyre backed by verifiable sources. how i type, my personality you perceive... just traps. if you attack me personally but ignore my claims, guess who wins? this guy. and when you realize you cannot attack anything but my person, guess who indefinitely wins?
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>>134536296
Imperialism is all the same, poor young men dying for fat rich old men, with propagandists throwing a veneer of bullshit ideology over it after.
I can tell you've never experienced real violence or death or destruction.
Individualism is the only way. All else is cucked boot licking, whether it's for Commie ideals or >muh skin color
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>>134536381
While most GI members have traditional Western European Catholic values, very few are actually practicing Catholics.

We should concentrate on ideology, not religion.
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>>134536624
>race is only skin color
Kill yourself, dearly.
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>>134536621
>source is given in the page
And it's the (((Financial Times))) and under paywall
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>>134536668
>Catholic

The Catholics carried out a mass execution of the Templars. There's no need to be a Catholic to fly that flag.
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>>134536621
>t. retard
read some perennialism dumb protestantic autist
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>>134536624
Individuals cannot defend themselves against hordes.
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>>134534564
kek
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>>134536711
American education
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>>134536560
I didn't link Wikipedia. I'm referencing 4th PT and not once have you acknowledged my claim that it appears you have not read even that book in its entirety but you're shilling hard for Dugin.
I don't recall Dugin directly advocating for Ukrainian genocide but he absolutely states "Ukraine isn't a country" and calls for its annexation, although I don't believe he uses that term because you can't annex something you already consider yours.
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>>134536146
ever considered the possibility that dugin could be larping, trolling and reflecting postmodernist bullshit back to make some points, cause confusion or is in it for kek?
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>>134536560
point and laugh at this guy, he's too stupid to bypass FT paywall...


https://archive.is/pGVa4
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>>134536668
>very few are actually practicing Catholics

Define "pretty few". During our summer camp, pretty much half of the guys go to sunday mass.

But you're right about ideology and not religion, as long as it's a european religion of course. We really value spirituality though, it's part of traditionnalism. But we can't force anyone.
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low iq skinhead goyim can't comprehend Dugin
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>>134536762
Let me correct myself and say Christian then.
Very few GI members are Christians, even if they hold values not so far from modern Christianity.
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>>134536862
please tell me you are not second vaticanists
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>>134536740
its not my problem you're broke..

heres a source for broke normies tho.

http://euromaidanpress.com/2014/06/15/moscow-students-demand-to-fire-dugin-from-the-moscow-state-university-for-sparking-hatred-towards-ukrainians/

>inb4 its not real

hang yourself.

>>134536829
He advocates for world war, influencing Russia, Turkey and other world Governments and created the Nazbol movement despite history. It matters very little what his motivations are as the result is the same. Plus he's a Satanist of a particular sort dangerous to the world because of how ignorant it is.
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>>134536825
I am not shilling for Dugin, I just pointed out that there's no evidence that he's anti-white.

His hatred for America started with Bush and Clinton, neoliberalism and neoconservatism, and lately he doesn't hate us anymore thanks to Trump. He certainly wouldn't have hated pre-Jewish America.
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>>134536929
A real shame. Christianity will bond them together tighter than their identities ever could.
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>>134536711
Once again, you argue against somehing I didn't even say. I shat on the reasons fat rich men send poor young ones to die.
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>>134536930
Of course not. Tridentine rite is what almost all christian identitarians follow. We're traditionnalists.
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>>134537003
lol dugin doesnt even recognize racialism and "whiteness"
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>>134536876
NAZBOL GANG

Jokes aside, i dont even understand why we are discussing dugin in this thread.
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>>134537002
>Mr Dugin, who is close to several figures in the Moscow security establishment and last August called for a “genocide” of Ukrainians

That's it? It doesn't say when, where, etc. So I have to take the word of the (((Financial Times))), lmao
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>>134537078
It doesn't make the fake quote that started this any less fake.
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>>134537003
I don't give a fuck if he's "pro or anti white", a definition which becomes more nebulous and bizarre and gets stricter or looser depending on who is holding the gun.
A man who advocates for the destruction of my country by allying himself with parasites is my enemy.
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>>134531140
the German u212 is really advanced
Diesel elettric submarine are quiter because they can go on elettric propulsion
Nuclear submarine need their pump to be alway active making a bit of noise
If i am not wrong one u212 sneaked up on an american carrier group in an esercitation
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>>134537223
The only destruction of America is happening inside its borders, and it's the mongrelization of our nation. Russia isn't a real threat, it's a broken-ass country with a bunch of rusty nukes that they can't even use because they would get nuked back.
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>>134537108
You don't have to do anything of the sort. You can read his words.
When you couple his disgust with the post Enlightenment concept of rights and individualism with his non recognition of Ukraine and desire for Russia to rule over large swathes of Eurasia, a Ukrainian genocide isn't a hard leap of logic to make.
Again, he never directly stated this in 4PT and I don't think it's a main goal of his. I do, however, suspect a Ukrainian resistance (that's guaranteed the moment Russia fully invades) would provide the excuse needed to wipe them out, if only to end them as a nuisance.
And if he takes that occult shit seriously, he gets an entire country of sacrificial material.
I personally am still torn on how much of that he believes, but who knows?
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>>134537046
thank God, im just sad that people are so limited in their knowledge of these things
for the most being a traditionalist catholic is just latin tridentine,
traditional mass is a far better name, because there would be no problem with pretridentine or similar mass, but the problem is with modernist post vatican bullshit

just like its not a matter of language per se,
for example traditional masses have been in slavic or syrian language for centuries


as for /pol/ i wouldnt say it would be very fruitful going here, as most people here are white nationalists which, i presume, i dont even have to say how dumb that is, regardless of their good intentions
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>>134537166
https://www.counter-currents.com/2013/06/alexander-dugin-on-white-nationalism/
just read this dumbass
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>>134537459
>a Ukrainian genocide isn't a hard leap of logic to make.
So you don't have proof. Got it. The guy is using fake quotes.
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>>134537403
Again, you're arguing points I haven't made.
I didn't mention Russia or the Russian government as a threat or non threat. I personally suspect Putin likes Dugin as a boogeyman for the west, and takes and rejects proposals as he sees fit.
I do believe Russia spooks use all types of identarian movements to fuck with western nations. If Russia has ties to hacking DNC, which is anyone's guess at this point, I'm sure they play the other side as well and encourage BLM etc.
It's what any foreign intelligence agency would do.
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>>134537108
>first the financial times was under a paywall and likely didnt verify the claim - it was a hoax
>now its proven not to be a hoax but a legit source and suddenly..
>its jewish and cant be trusted

is this the extent of your rhetoric? ...


heres another source with the genocide quote:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/alexander-dugin-russian-academic-linking-us-president-donald-trump-vladimir-putin-turkey-president-a7560611.html

>inb4 its fake too


ANONS: haven't any of you wondered where the sudden Occult bullshit came from during Trump's election? Why, all of a sudden, anons are "praising kek" and trying to practic meme magick..which is really just chaos magick.. the same form of esoteric practice Dugin involves himself? Even the symbol for his movement is the 8-pointed chaos star. Do you think it a COHENcidence Kek is the chaos god, when Dugin is a Chaos magician? Or that Trump has been called the Chaos Candidate by the AltRight? Have fun with your memes.. dont make them into a cult. Alt-Right.. is a Duginist cult. Leave it.
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>>134537636

https://archive.is/MSFyu
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>>134537557
So Dugin is basically a retard that thinks that emboldening far right (and left) movements will weaken his enemy nations? He's an useful idiot then, because the far right would make our countries stronger, not weaker. Russia would be better off waiting for the total mongrelization of America rather than help it stop it, but whatever floats his boat.
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>>134537578
he isnt for ukrainian genocide but that ukrainians as such dont exist
they are a bullshit fabrication of the 19th century liberal movement like most modern nations are

being russian might be germanic in origin, but it currently represents the eastern slavs, it is an organic identity centuries/milennia old

only a complete idiot and someone not familiar with dugin's ideas at all (or someone who wants to intentionally defame) could say he is for ukrainian genocide
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>>134537636
>activists accused him of encouraging genocide.
activists accused him of encouraging genocide.
>activists accused him of encouraging genocide.
activists accused him of encouraging genocide.
>activists accused him of encouraging genocide.
activists accused him of encouraging genocide.

lmao how the tune changed

first it was a quote, then it was "someone said", and now he was "encouraging it" (i.e. he didn't say it literally)
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>>134537734
dugin and his movement is against nationalism
reactionaries and nationalists have been archenemies since they exist
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What's the male/female proportion in the IB?
What if I'm willing to get involved and looking for a traditional qt waifu? What are my chances of finding one?
t. Academic with good job, decent looks, blonde hair, mid 20s and fed up with todays female degeneracy
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>>134537845
>maybe if i pretend it didnt happen this will go away
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>"I can’t defend the concept of the nation, because the idea of the “nation” is a bourgeois concept concocted as a part of modernity in order to destroy traditional societies (empires) and religions, and to replace them with artificial pseudo-communities based on the notion of individualism."

THIS is how dugin and all reactionaries view nationalism
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>>134537734
nobody apart from the mentally ill liberals and their paid shills (a lot of them itt) think right-wing movements undermine nations
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>>134529062
Though the article doesn't state it explicitly, it implies that the ship is being chartered.
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>>134537871
I'd say roughly 25 or 30%. But you're in just for the girls, go to church or something.
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>>134537923
lmao, your quote is getting more retarded with every post. Now it's: "kill, kill, kill" in the context of a war in a region = "genocide an entire country"
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>>134536508
yes - an open source "democracy" that can be accessed by anyone online through their computer. Just like 4Chan but with countries and policies instead of boards. Ignore current (((parliaments))) and (((politicians))) and stop giving their action legitimacy.

I'm unconvinced that a boat getting in the way of ONE migrant boat is going to do anything much.
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>>134537871
if you want women just read roosh and heartiste
they are a problem of their own but can prove to be very useful
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>>134538062
>first the anti-white quote was fake despite sources given
>then the white genocide in Ukraine quote was fake...until sources were given
>then the sources were fake ... until too many sources were given to deny
>now the quote is real but out of context
;)

pic related. i accept your defeat
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Good luck lads, hope everything goes to plan.
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>>134538063
oh, it is already working, despite being not even there...
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>>134538212
Your quote said: "Today's Ukranians are a race of degenerates that crawled up from sewage. Genocide is in order"

Your article said: "kill, kill, kill"
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>>134537923
>>134538212
>calls for people to kill their war enemies
how unusual

anyway dugin doesnt even accept term "white" and sees white nationalists as uncomfortable temporary allies at best
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They should have bought a submarine, not a fucking ship
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>>134538295
Still waiting for the source of "Today's Ukranians are a race of degenerates that crawled up from sewage. Genocide is in order" by the way.
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>>134538276
it?
Whats the "it" you are referring to?
The boat? If so what do you mean?
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>>134538297
Reactionaries sound like short-sighted retards, but okay.
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>>134538028
I'd be in it for family just like everyone else
You're fighting for a basically white Europa so you're all implicitly in it "for the girls" and your future children
Not sure about church, my parents were communist atheists and so I never got introduced to christianity really and it always looks like a more or less closed club to me that you can't really join unless you have been a part of it forever
I do believe in god and the sanctity of the biblical teachings though
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>>134528837

>an Austrian who is leading the effort

What could go wrong with that?!
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>>134528837
/pol/ loves you, Belgian identitarian anon.

Godspeed.
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>>134528837
Today at 17:00 we have an online Press Conference about #DefendEurope

On their Facebook page
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>>134538295
pic related. you're done ;) I even tried to warn you on the strategy you are following: deny, degrade and deflect. But this can only work for so long, and the time is up. Friendly advice: remove your ego from the debate, or you'll lose everytime

>>134538297
>>134538385
pic related
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>>134538149
Fuck off with your degenerate pua crap
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>>134537947
Thank you, anon. Maybe you'll get through to him, because he's not paying attention to anything I keep stressing about Dugin's contentions against individualism, God given rights, etc.

I realize you and me disagree fundamentally on these concepts but at this point I'm happy just to see someone else read him besides me and occult bro.
Btw, I don't think reactionaries are wrong about many aspects of culture and humanity, but at this point I don't think most western nations could ever survive the abolition of the concept of individualism even if they wanted to and had no moral compunctions against doing so.
It's why I believe Duginism's larger goals aren't rooted so much in reactionary beliefs as they are destruction of the west.
Dugin's assessment of American culture post Cold War is dead on, it's his solutions I deeply disagree with.
My friend and I often debate: is Islam the new evil empire western elites needed per Dugin to delay the commodification of the individual? (If so, it clearly failed, but I still wonder if anyone in the boomer generation is even that savvy).
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>>134537046
Seriously i was about to join your movement in Paris, i even got to some marchs with some identitarian guys but shit happened and i lost my job and i'm now a NEET, so i'll just do my individual life making white babies and waiting for the big happening
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>>134537734
its not about weakening his enemies nationsa at all
>"In order to win against our common enemy, we need to overcome the ancient hatreds between our peoples, as well as those between the obsolete political ideologies that still divide us. We can resolve such problems amongst ourselves after our victory."
>"The most important factor should not be whether these groups are pro-Russian or not. What they oppose is of much greater importance here. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. It is simple and easy to understand. If we adopt such an attitude in order to appeal to all possible allies (who either approve of us or who do not), more and more people will follow suit – if only due to pragmatism. In doing so, we will create a real, functioning network – a kind of Global Revolutionary Alliance. It is important that we pursue a strategy of uniting the Left and the Right everywhere, including in the United States. We need to save America from its own dictatorship, which is as bad for the American people as it is for all other peoples."

its about destroying the modern liberal world order i ngeneral of which nation concept is jsut a part
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How can a Dinko help out?
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>>134538428
the operation being effective despite the boat not having arrived in theatre yet.
Seen containment articles in msm lately?
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>>134538529
>Belgian identitarian
>doesn't use his own flag on pol

well well well
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>>134538533
>well-known quote
>article still can't provide where did he say that
>article appears to be using a TWEET with a meme as source

It's so easy:
>he said it in this book
>he said it in this video
>he said it in this audio

So, where did he say it? "Today's Ukranians are a race of degenerates that crawled up from sewage. Genocide is in order"
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>>134538669
he was talking to OP, who is an identitarian
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>>134535067
Stop warning people about shit you didn't even read before trying to make a character assassination on a guy like Dugin, some of us know about his work. You didn't find a conspiracy, you're simply dumb.
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>>134538691
what do you mean where did he say it? in the same class he said "kill kill kill" for which he was fired as professor. you're not even reading the sources, are you anon? toplel. stay defeated little shill.
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>>134538786
>dugin exposed as an anti-white, pro-white genocide in Ukraine literal Satanist who supports cannabalism because he thinks its spiritual like Crowley eating shit
>no conspiracy tho

bro i havent even given a 10th of what i have on Dugin. Spencergate when? :)
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>>134538637
>Seen containment articles
no I haven't.

I think the problem is too big for one boat to solve. Have they actually turned a migrant boat around and sent it back to where it came from? Or whats the plan exactly?
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>>134538465
>You're fighting for a basically white Europa so you're all implicitly in it "for the girls" and your future children

Yeah, that's the spirit. But your first post looked a bit cringey so I was not sure about your goal. You should give it a try, contact your local chapter and see if that suits you.

>>134538529
Thank you! I'm actually a French working here, I wish I could have my flag.

>>134538603
That sucks, but you can do shit even if you're a neet. Just making babies is also good.

>>134538615
We don't have any Bulgarian chapter, maybe you could lead one? If you were specifically talking about the boat, the crew is full for this first mission.
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>>134530034
>mistake
>implying that wasn't the plan
good goy
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>>134529909
Obama really was America's greatest president. Even Bush didn't fuckup the Arab world as bad as Mr Obama.
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>>134528837
Good job guys you are doing a great fucking service to us all! God speed.
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>>134538845
>in the same class as the "kill, kill, kill" quote
So you are lying, lmao

The article doesn't say that. They quotes are in different paragraphs. Do you know how paragraphs work?

And the kill kill kill (directed at war enemies, not the whole country) quote happened in an interview with Anna-News information agency (it says so in your article)

I get it, you can't substantiate your meme beyond an article using the same meme as source
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>>134538463
ahahahahhaha
so ironic to hear it from someone who follows a liberal 19th century individualist ideology and groups himself based on the shade of his skin

>>134538573
>destruction of the west
waht you say is destruction of the west is simply what we see as end of the modern liberal world
reason why we see this as possible is simply human nature
modernity has been imposed contrary to human nature and humans will be able to return to the original state once anti-natural modernity is broken
id generally much rather hear reasonable liberal people, who understand everything, but simply are on other end of the argument than a >muh white nation uneducated fuckwads

islam is just a traditional society living the way it knows in the modern world,
we should fight it because it is basically an outsider conqueror group, but you must see it in the context of contemporary reality and not equalize salafis and sufis
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>>134539015
Thanks, we try hard to not disappoint all the people who support us.
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>>134539015
Every year the 14th July the army's helicopters pass just by my appartment

Never missed it since i'm 5 years old, always impressive
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>>134539154
>le race is only skin deep
Oh, so reactionaries are basically liberals but want to go back instead of forward.
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>>134538669
Exactly doesnt make much sense
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>>134528837

Fight the good fight.
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>>134539021
>when you're trying to defend an anti-white satanic cannibal

lol heres another source

>inb4 not real
>inb4 out of context
>inb4 leave dugin aloooooone
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How hard are organisations like the german verfassungsschutz trying to infiltrate the IB btw? Are they successful to a certain degree?
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>>134539398
he's a European Identiterian hailing from the region of belgium
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>>134539417
>here's another one
Where does it say "Today's Ukranians are a race of degenerates that crawled up from sewage. Genocide is in order" and the origin of the quote?

You keep sourcing the "kill, kill, kill (war enemies)" but that's not in dispute.
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>>134539154
let me explain islam further

we have a traditional bedouin arabian society for which islam means its identity, tehir traditions, who they are
when modern world came desert arabs have merely seen salafi-type islam as a way to protect the traditionalism and integrity of their group and generally uses agressive measures adapted to homogenous social atmosphere

when a group of them move to the west they apply what they have learned about religion and society, since it has grown in such homogenous atmosphere it is not adapted to heterogenous social atmosphere of the indoeuropean cultures like sufi islam did so it manifests in such a negative way
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>>134539483
Then why use the natsoc flag lol
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>>134539523
>calling for the systematic killing of Ukrainians isn't advocating for genocide

anon, i..
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>>134539594
The Nazi isn't Belgian, dumb pastanigger
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>>134539458
They're probably trying, but also probably failing.
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>>134539594
he's using belgian flag are you blind ?
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>>134539610
So you admit that the "Today's Ukranians are a race of degenerates that crawled up from sewage. Genocide is in order" quote has no source and is thus fake?
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>>134539268
>back instead of forward
untrue
its about building a better society based on values that have always been valid and upon which all past societies have been succesfully built
which have been forgotten only i nthis wicked age

>>134539483
belgium doesnt exist
flanders, limburg, brabant, liege, luxemburg do tho
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>>134539656
no. in fact i gave the source: he said this during the same speech which got him fired and placed on the U.S. ban list. i even gave a video of him saying it ...

do you admit advocating for the "killing" of ukrainians is a policy of genocide or nah? :)
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>>134539154
I agree with you on 99.9999% of everything I suspect.
Islamic culture outside of salafist influence doesn't bother me in the slightest. Even salafism wouldn't bother me if they eschewed the conquering aspect, but, as you pointed out, they adhere to it.
I often fatsasize about what I call the Shia Realignment, wherein the West allies with Iran as their main partner. Shia Islam, even politically violent Shia Islam like Hizbollah, appears to evolve quickly into "legitimate" peaceful political movements when compared with Sunni extremism.
My main concern with a return to pre-modernity ideals and culture is that technology has pushed us beyond that and the very human nature reactionaries point to would reject the return. Basically, "You can't go home again".
Ideally, I dream of a way to retune to pre-"post modernity". I believe we could accomplish that as humans, a time when community and social interaction functioned generally well. Religion of any sort plays a role, as does dignity.
I don't believe human dignity and individuality are mutually exclusive, but first we need to rediscover the concept of dignity. Does that make sense? I'm half rambling now because I'm excited to find someone else in this board who finally read Dugin and understands the reactionary theme raging against individualism turning humans into commodities vs
>muh white anti libtards
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>>134539790
And you are going to build with IQ-70 retards because race is skin deep anyway
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>>134534971
Underrated
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>>134539154
And you're dead on about the irony of an individualist demanding racial identity movements.
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>>134539629
>>134539617
I missread his post, my bad. I know the belgian anon, i wasnt talking about him.
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>>134539161
I'm an actual Belgian (Flemish) identitarian, I guess you are from French Flanders?
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>>134539813
Are you talking about the "kill, kill, kill" quote? Because we already established that he was talking about war combatants in Novorossiya, not about killing every single Ukranian, children and women.

I like how you desperately googled the quote, VISITED THE ARTICLES, but none of them say where the quote came from.
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>>134539929
No, not catholic enough.
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>>134539929
I am French and I work in Brussels. Maybe we met in Lille two weeks ago? Can we get in touch via Bo?
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>>134539973
>Because we already established that he was talking about war combatants in Novorossiya
have we? source me.
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>>134539551
if only they weren't cousin fuckers... but they are
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>>134539620
What makes you think they are failing?
I've heard of several people who lost their job because they were in the IB
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>>134540078
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-great-clash-explained-what-drives-dangerous-tensions-11936#comment-1764487503

Here's the oldest instance of the "Genocide is in order" quote, LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

A FUCKING COMMENT IN A NEWS SECTION
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>>134538931
Is he even that relevant? How much power do you think he has?
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>>134539551
That's precisely how I see Salafism, the main issue with it now is it's external push. As an internal control mechanism, I have no issue with it. Nations can determine their own path.
And as I mentioned before, I don't disagree with dugin's critique of post modernism. I diverge with him only in solutions, so salafism as a defense mechanism against post modernism makes sense.
Russia and Estonia, and now the USA have experienced catastrophic opioid overdoes and addiction among their young men. I compare ISIS' popularity amongst young men in the east to the opioid crisis. Both are youth reactions to post modernism, and the alienation thatbis part and parcel of the commodification of human beings hat dugin describes.
The secular societies (note both are post Cold War former superpower rivals) retreat into post modernistic hedonism, as they were trained to do, and the eastern men retreat into religion, itself an opiate of sorts.
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>>134539817
>I don't believe human dignity and individuality are mutually exclusive
of course not
thing is that being a reactionary, "duginist" or whatever you want to call it is not about following some ideology
being this or being that, monarchist, collectivist, democrat or similar

its about rejecting the ideas of modernity, to stop trying to play God and to let people rule themselves and build societies in the way it comes to them naturally (be that society individualist, collectivism, democratic or authoritarian in one way or fashion), without fake social-experiment idiocies the establishment imposes today

>>134539817
the very reason salafism exist today is because it is a negative manifestation of masculinity and culture when clashed with modernity
if ingroup aspect of society would be respected and liberal social experimentation not conducted there would be absouletely no ground for salafism to grow in
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>>134540220
>someone commented on a blog the quote, therefore, this is the source

sauce me.

>>134540228
dugin has tainted everyone's mind. he even helped spencer get him altright blog up and running.
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>>134538931
What sounds kinda edgy is a contemplation about responsibility and conscientiousnes. The cruel act of killing an animal is disassociated from the modern mind and consumer. That's why a cannibal seems more sane and reasonable in comparison because he knows what he's doing and what it takes. We outsource every act of cruelty to the butcher and military to keep our sanity, but that is what makes us actually insane.
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>>134528837
You guys are sailing partially with my money. Ahoy!
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>>134540041
Nope I really wanted to go but I couldn't make it. If you go to the summer university as well, I'll see you there maybe.
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>>134539164
I love your country man. I met a french girl while traveling in Paris and ended up staying for 6 months. Was such a nice time in my life. It is painful to see whats happening in Paris these days. Hopefully it can improve soon.
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>>134539850
going to build it with people of my blood, people im related to by history, culture and identity

not based on what colour their skin is

for example basques and ugrofinnics are culturally connected, but in tehir origin and tradition belong to completely different people

just every region has differences in itself
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>>134540220
also you didnt sauce me on the claim that dugin was saying "kill kill kill" only about ukrainian soldiers. until you do that and stop avoiding the request ,we dont continue, seeing as I gave multiple independent sources backing my claim that dugin has called for the white genocide of the ukrainian people. so ill wait.
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>>134540345
That's the source. There's no older instance of the quote anywhere. It's literally the same wording and it's the oldest apparition of the quote anywhere. (By the way, the quote only returns 7-8 results)

>be libshit reporter
>dig up shit on dugin
>find fake quote on a comment in a blog
>"let's add it to the article and never ever say where the quote came from"
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>134540385
Thank you very much!

>>134540424
Yeah I will be there, I'll give a conference in french and english. We're building a discord for identitarians, do you want to join?
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>>134540369
you can justify it however you want m8.
but i dont think people are going to buy the bullshit once they learn he's a cannibal satanist :3
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>>134540433
I don't have many hope for my country but thanks anyway
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>>134540482
see
>>134540479
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>>134540479
>claim that dugin was saying "kill kill kill" only about ukrainian soldiers
The question, omitted in your 7-second video and dishonestly paraphrased in your articles, was about Novorossiya and something like: "What would you say to the freedom fighters in Novorossiya?"
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>>134540576
dugin was fired as professor for saying "kill kill kill!" regarding the people of ukraine. he was fired for it -- thats not a conspiracy theory. so if youre saying it was just about the soldiers... sauce me.
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>>134538953
>We don't have any Bulgarian chapter, maybe you could lead one? If you were specifically talking about the boat, the crew is full for this first mission.
Dude, you should definitely look for allies within the Intermarium. Most of the whites here are basically WN. We're also not as weak as Westerners. I know you lot have a rule for not letting in skinheads, but believe me, most of our populations will support you.
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>>134540533
I will probably join you soon. I wouldn't want to make it to obvious because I am more useful with a well paying job.
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>>134540282
Hmmmm. You've given me some things to chew on. I need to read more Dugin unthinkable, because I'm still left with the impression that he advocated a multipolar global system thinly veiled under culturally appropriate, regional specific proto fascist states.

You're obviously very well versed and your definition of reactionary is essentially identical to what I consider my classically liberal beliefs, namely that while human God given rights do exist, they all stem from the first right: the right to self determination.
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>>134540681
The question wasn't "how to deal with Ukranians" in general, but "how should Novorossians deal with the Ukranians insurgents", in the context of the civil war in Novorrosiya.

And he wasn't actually fired, according to your precious Wikipedia.
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>>134540759
I need to read even more Dugin I think * fucking phoneposting
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>>134540533
Oh great, are you a leading member? I'm one of the founding members here in Flanders but as you know we've only recently begun. Sure I'dd like to join the discord.
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>>134540243
>so salafism as a defense mechanism against post modernism makes sense.
in one way or anothern nature (GNON if you will)
will find a way balance things - its just like with biology - if people destroy the natural balance with their harmful irresopnsible action, the habitat will change and rebalance to be optimal with time, it just wont be any place for those people anymore (remember desertification and overgrazing scenarios)

>And as I mentioned before, I don't disagree with dugin's critique of post modernism. I diverge with him only in solutions, so salafism as a defense mechanism against post modernism makes sense.
now im also not a blind follower of people like dugin regarding solution, but in general principle,
id be for any good solution leading to fixing the world
just like he said:
>In Greece, our partners could eventually be Leftists from SYRIZA, which refuses Atlanticism, liberalism and the domination of the forces of global finance.
>There are also many other groups and movements with whom we can work. The case of the Golden Dawn (Chrysi Avgi) is interesting because it is part of the growing (and very exciting indeed) reappearance of radical Right parties in the European political landscape.
>We need to collaborate with all forces, Right or Left, who share our principles.
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>>134540685
We know, we wish we could grow in eastern Europe but there's actually little room precisely because you guys are already WN. You don't really need a mouvement such as ours. We tried in Slovenia, Hungary, Poland... It's really slow progress, only Slovenia is growing.

>>134540690
Then maybe we'll meet at some point. You're right to be careful if you can't afford to show your face. To each its place, everyone can achieve a bit and together we'll win.

>>134540864
Ask Bo about who's just sent him a message concerning discord, we'll get in touch.
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>>134540850
>but "how should Novorossians deal with the Ukranians insurgents"
sauce me anon. im willing to look into it. doesnt make any sense he'd be accused of advocating for genocide and get fired from his teaching post.. AND get barred from entering the United States for simple encouraging Russia kills Ukrainian militants which is just warfare anyway.

so sauce me.
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>>134540954
Ok, Bo is at Tomorrowland now so he's probably not available.
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>>134540897
I can't speak for other countries but im beginning to see a massive push against false ideologies here in favor of integrity. Human dignity begins with integrity. For example, the GOP here whined about Obamacare for years and then had no solution, etc.
Basically the past 6 months have proven that both parties actually are identical and until we ressurrect integrity and human dignity, all ideologies are false. Or perhaps worse than false, they are hobbies masqueraded as belief.
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>>134540759
>You're obviously very well versed and your definition of reactionary is essentially identical to what I consider my classically liberal beliefs
through years ive learned not to categorically group people by ideology for this you stated here
the biggest part of your growth as a person is when you stop seeing people as opposing groups with regards to ideology and stop picking sides

>I'm still left with the impression that he advocated a multipolar global system thinly veiled under culturally appropriate, regional specific proto fascist states
id say he needs to adapt his ideas to putin and contemporary russian political needs too much, but despite that negative part, its still the only way to have someone into position that high
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>>134540954
Have you tried expanding in the UK yet? It seems to me like there would be just as much appetite for it here as there is in Germany and France, but I haven't heard anything about it. Our options at the moment are limited to movements like EDL (who are probably rightly called a bunch of football hooligans) or parties like UKIP, who we may not agree with politically.

That brings me to my second question - is Generation Identity an inherently right-wing movement, or do you think it can be a single-purpose movement shared by people from different political ideologies? I would unironically describe myself as a left-wing, socially liberal, environmentalist, but I'm very much in favour of restricting immigration to the tens of thousands and making sure national culture is respected.
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>>134541183
i bet that if you talked with most of liberals/dems
you would see that their aspirations and goals tend to be simialr to ours, they are just misguided in how to reach it and have wrong priorities
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sauce me anon.
im willing to re-examine into the matter.
unless..there is no sauce?
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>>134541004
He wasn't fired though. He quit because he was offered a job somewhere else.

Google: "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCrGwQt1Mew#t=1031" and translate any forum talking about it to know the context.
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