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So the rulling party is trying to override the power separation by approving series of laws allowing them to pick and kick any judge in any court including Supreme Court.

It's obviously a terrible thing for a country when courts become political. What people need to understand is that protests that we have right now are not defending the judges themselves, but the democratic constitution we have. The new laws are breaking it.

The refugees and other pepe themes are not important right now and I don't fucking care if PiS wants to take in or not the refugees. What's important right now is to defend our democracy and freedom, as without them this nation is going to perish.

Let the Russian shills with Polish flags begin their dance in the comments, I'll see any of you sane ones on a protest tonight.
>also pictured: cucks, normies, old commies and useful idiots
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>>134526203
Go fuck yourself leftist shill. If implementing rules like in Germany means Poland will have "no power separation" that means Germany hasn't had power separation for years.

You leftards are the biggest pieces of shit on this planet. Always with lies, hypocrisy, manipulation and propaganda. Human garbage.
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>>134527627

Please leave the EU.

Thank you.
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Poland is dead
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>>134526203
How much did they pay you to shill your leftie garbage on a natsoc/libertarian site?
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On one hand, yes, this is threatening the separation of power.

On the other hand, you fucking well know we have commie judges in courts.

What the fuck are these protesters even trying to achive?
Kick PiS out of power? That's illegal.
Ask for a referendum? Nigger according to polish law referendums are just a suggestion for the people in power.


I've seen countless pictures of these protests with cucks with their phones out, taking pictures of themselves or whatever. They're only there to brag on jewbook later on
>LOOK AT ME IM DEFENDING DEMOCRACY FEED ME LIKES
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>>134526203
How many threads are you going to make about your country finding its balls, Jew?
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>>134527677
After you, mohammet.
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>>134527677
with pleasure. I'd leave this shithole this minute

btw plz stop buying polish lands in silesia and pomerania
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>>134527876
>I'd leave this shithole this minute

That's a relief.
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>>134527752
Lolbertarians are cucks.

>>134527785
>On the other hand, you fucking well know we have commie judges in courts.
And they won't live forever. That disgusting clone cannot into that fact.
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>>134526203
KILL YOURSELF FUCKIN VOLKSDEUTSCH SHILL
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>>134527785
So much this.
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>>134526203
Where are the new judges going to come from?
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>>134527966
They are already getting their children into positions, its fucking hard to get into some better position without some sort of uncle in "business" already.
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>>134526203
Op is an idiot.
You can fix politics and economy
You cannot fix a genocide or an invasion.
Only priority is stopping immigration.
Rest is secondary
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>>134526203
you are aware that THE SAME LAW ALREADY WORKS IN GERMANY AND MOST COUNTRIES IN EUROPE?

/thread
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>>134527876
>poopland
>calling others shitholes
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>>134528101
party nominations, probably

the ministry of justice already started 300+ judge contests
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>>134528289
We are not germany and shouldn't try to imitate it, I'd rather switch to U.S. common law if we're trying to replicate western countries
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>>134526203
>Russian shills with Polish flags
Also muh heritage trumpists trying to convince themselves that democracies are shit anyways despite living and prospering in one of them
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>>134526203
This is EU propaganda
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>>134527627
FPBP
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>>134526203
Judges have been appointed by our politicians for years. Nobody cares. The only reason why this is in the news is because Poland is giving the EU the finger, so the MSM mouthpieces are being put to work to badmouth the evil racist polish government.
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>>134528475
The backlash is overly big but I still don't like that national socialists can handpick the Supreme Court for next 6 years
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>>134527627
So it doesn't bother you that your beloved PiS tries to emulate Germany in many aspects (this law, 500+ aka Kindergeld) but when the opposition parties do the same it's treason of the highest order?

Why are PiSturds always complete brainlets incapable of logical thought?
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>>134527627
>implementing rules like in Germany
That's objectively wrong and you know that. Majority in Bundestag is unable to pick and kick the Supreme Court judges on demand.

>>134527677
I bet we'll be kicked soon enough.

>>134528101
However the party deems worthly.

>>134528209
That's not an argument in Poland. We just have Ukrainians.

>>134528289
Again, wrong. You're repeating what you've been told without critically analyzing it.

>>134528475
Again, wrong. The new law will allow the rulling party to choose the judges on whim without any consultations. You don't have that, separation of power limits the ingerention of the other branches of govt into the judiciary.
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>>134526203
>The new laws are breaking it.

Welcome to the club
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>>134528519
holy shit what a faggot, be thankful Poland is not becoming less ethnically Polish, you cocksucker
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>>134528525
You want PO back? because that's how you get PO back...
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>>134528300
In my country shitskins don't rape, murder and add little girls to kebab meat.
In the progressive UK on the other hand...
pic rel
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>>134526203
the judiciary IS ALWAYS POLITICAL

EVERYWHERE

AND ALWAYS

you faggot
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>>134527627

I'm confused, how are judges elected ATM ?Is this for all judges or just Supreme court ones?
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>>134526203
>defend our democracy and freedom
stop shilling
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This entire thing is against Polish law. That's pretty great, actually.
This means that if PiS doesn't get reelected then any opposition put into power won't hesitate to put them all in jail, which in turn gives them incentive to govern well.
Only thing that would make people of any country overthrow their government is poverty. Nothing else.
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>>134528675
It's political, but it's not POLITICALLY DEPENDAND.
Imagine if Trump or Obama kicked out all the Supreme Court judges that are against his reform. What would happen on the streets of us? They want to do that here.

>>134528708
ATM judges decide within themselves who should be appointed and the reccommendation has to be accepted by the President.
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>>134527785
>On the other hand, you fucking well know we have commie judges in courts.
Even ignoring the fact that all judges who did actual unlawful shit during PRL got purged during the lustration, the average age of judge in Poland is 38. They were 10 year old when communism fell, so how the FUCK could they ever serve the communist state?

If PiS wants to go on an anti-communist witch hunt perhaps they should start with their own fucking party and scum like Piotrowicz, who was a PZPR member and a state prosecutor during the Martial Law. Just a suggestion.
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>>134528832
desu in US Roosevelt did the same shit with new deal, but instead of kicking the judges he appointed new ones without removing any because the us constitution doesn't specify how many judges are there in scotus
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>>134528832
Your country is at a turning point. Either you get your birthrate up and permaban all shitskin immigration, or Poland dies like western europe, faggot

that's all that matters

that's the only thing that matters
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>>134527627
We've been living under a shitty leftist dictatorship for quite some time.
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>>134527876
See ya, and remember Belarus is this way ----------------------->
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>>134528791
Oh, btw, Supreme Court controls the elections in Poland.
So... For destroying the separation of power the rulling party could be tried for treason after the change of government. Why would you accept the election results then, if you don't have to?
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>>134526203
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/18/polish-government-brings-forward-plans-to-assert-control-over-judges
>When Małgorzata Gersdorf, the president of the supreme court

http://www.heraldcourier.com/news/world/poland-s-top-politician-says-judiciary-needs-radical-steps/article_abc338ae-9f90-5321-8e7b-2a7f973867b8.html
>The head of the Supreme Court, Malgorzata Gersdorf, who was member of the anti-communist Solidarity movement in the 1980s

FINANCING FIRST FREE MARKET IN SOVIET UNION:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros
>From 1979, as an advocate of 'open societies', Soros financially supported dissidents including Poland's Solidarity movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_(Polish_trade_union)
>first trade union in a Warsaw Pact country that was not controlled by a communist party.
>anti-Soviet social movement ranging from people associated with the Catholic Church
>CIA covert support
>In Sollicitudo rei socialis, a major document of Catholic Social Teaching, Pope John Paul II identifies the concept of solidarity with the poor and marginalized as a constitutive element of the Gospel and human participation in the common good.

So to sum up:
Poland is the first country that wants into EU and capitalism in Soviet Union.
Poland happy when EU was created with Soros' help, so Poland could migrate around Europe and get EU/Soros money.
Poland now against own EU creation, while Soros still supports his judges of democracy who destroyed Communism.
Poland now goes soft Communism, but still blames Commies.
Poland goes on streets, plays 2 sides of Commies and pro-government freedom people, hires cameras to record how they scream some Communist and anti-Communist slogans.

Poland just has a power struggle among different capitalists. Poland is becoming Romania.
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>>134526203
What is king korwins standpoint on this situation?
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>>134528850
>They were 10 year old when communism fell, so how the FUCK could they ever serve the communist state?
all western education systems have been compromised since the late 1960s, coincidentally right after the soviets realized that they were going to lose the cold war, badly, if they tried a direct confrontation with NATO.
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>>134526203
>Having full control of your JEWdiciary.

Good idea.
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>>134528791
And economy due PiS is going great, record low unemployment, fast growing, budget surplus despite social expenses.
http://tvn24bis.pl/pieniadze,79/mf-nadwyzka-budzetowa-po-czerwcu-wyniosla-5-9-mld-zl,758500.html
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>>134526203
Got ot hell, lefty
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>>134528942
shot both
http://wiadomosci.radiozet.pl/Polska/Janusz-Korwin-Mikke-o-awanturze-w-Sejmie-Rozstrzelac-obie-strony
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>>134528942
he literally said that both the government and opposition should be shot

>>134528961
read the fucking budget you idiot, it was expected to have surplus by july

500+ needs to be abandoned because we're cerating a welfare leech class
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>>134528942
He would shoot both the commies protesting and the ones in power actually kek
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>>134528889
You see, that's actually smart. He didn't broke the constitution to do that.
PiS is shitting over the law constantly the last few days. They all should've been fined and arrested right now because it's already criminal.

>>134528890
>need to increase birthrate
advice Poland
>destroy free courts

Sounds great, doesn't work.
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>>134526203
Democracy is overrated when invading hordes of savages are at the door.
This will only help the jews.
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>>134528913
Nobody would take that seriously, overruling elections for no good reason would absolutely destroy Polish foreign relations and even warrant foreign military intervention. And well, isn't the Supreme Court controlled by the ruling party now?
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>>134528686

GET IN HERE. AUSSIE WOMAN SHOT BY NIGGER WAS NOT INNOCENT. SHE IS RACE MIXING WHORE PROMOTING PEDOSHIT IN AUSTRALIA!!
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I feel for you Poland. No matter what happens, in the end we will bash the fash together, as comrades. Duda, Orban, Trump, even Putin, all nationalists will feel the mighty foot of the people up their asses.
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>>134528596
I want a new, intelligent opposition to take over and restore order in this country. I don't even care if it's left or right at this point, it's all fucking buzzwords for morons anyway, as we can see with the "right wing" PiS passing socialist policies and the "left wing" PO opposing LGBT laws.
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>>134529089
No, that's Constitutional Tribunal.
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>>134529045
At last they have children.
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>>134529173
I would also have children if I wasn't forced to give away 60% of my wealth in taxes each year. I'm not going to breed just for the sake of it, I want my child to have a good stable future and right now I'm not able to guarantee it.
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>>134529116
Duda is just a marionette, he is basically manipulated to do anything the rulling party likes. I don't mind him that much. Of course he's going to prison with the rest of them fuckos when the day comes.
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>>134528942
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/124879/JANUSZ_KORWIN-MIKKE_home.html
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/meps/en/search.html?country=PL

Korwin is in EU parlimanet, which means he gets EU salary. Poland salaries are lower for Polish politicians. All Korwin needs to do is whistle on Polish mentality to get elected for another 5 years into EU parliament.
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>>134529119
Yeah, I agree. Hopefully something is going to crystalize over the next few months. I don't want to support KOD either as it seems like they're Solidarity larping faggots. I'd rather have a new, modern movement.
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>>134529226
Only if he survives the beatings.
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>>134529249
He's a millionaire anyway, I don't think he cares about the salary at this point.

>>134529304
I hope not, we should be above the use of violence. But who know, we should be prepared for the worst.
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>>134529173
And if we have to choose between 500+ or importing shitskins to improve birthrate, 500+ is much, much better option.
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>>134526203
>It's obviously a terrible thing for a country when courts become political

But that was the issue, judiciary system became self-appointed mafia with same surnames since Bierut's rule (explantion for non-Poles - Moscow's puppet during Stalin's period). Who is supposed to regulate the courts if not the party currently in power? Voters gave PiS mandate to introduce those changes, neo-liberal opposition is mad because it's only democracy if they are the ones in power, we've heard this groan since 2015
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>>134529213
Honestly you should just have children anyway before it's too late. There are no guarantees in life.
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>>134527677
Prussia is Polish clay now and forever more.
Fear the Pole kraut, for now his military is much stronger than yours
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>>134529351
Lets not think about what isn't important. What's important is what's written down and is a fact. I don't care what politicians say, only what they sign.
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>>134529354
It still doesn't work. The birthrate needs to skyrocket, but it it barely moved up.
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>>134529280
Modern movement will be EU puppet and will take 500000 immigrants in half a year, we will become Germany and France in a heartbeat, the best thing we have is that we are not west.
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>>134528961
Lel PiS did fuck all. The economy is doing good because, if you havent noticed yet, Europe as a whole has entered a "good koniunktura" period, just like shortly before the 2008 financial crisis broke out. Even Spain is finally under 20% unemployment and with 3,5% projected growth this year.

Our growth is good only in the overall sense anyways, we're actually doing pretty badly compared to most of our neigbbours from the region, I mean fucking Romania is having like 5,5% projected GDP growth this year, while the Balt-dicks are closing up to 4,5-5%. Our measly 3,2% projected growth looks fucking abysmal in comparison.
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>>134529370
>mandate to introduce those changes
Constitutional mandate. These laws are directly against Constitution.
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>>134529467
Birthrate is never a problem. How much you produce is so much you produce. You don't need to produce more than your country needs, unless you don't produce for yourself, then it's never enough.
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>>134526203
Are you so deluded you actually believe you live in a democratic country? Do you really believe democratic countries exist nowadays? As long as they are not (((internationalist))) rats you should be happy your leaders have more powers to stand against the internationalist menace.
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>>134529119
^This. PiS is strong because everyone else is shit-tier. The get majority of the voters, but over half of people are against their government, when you look at the approval polls. They're simply the strongest option out here, it's not as if there's an alt-right wave sweeping through the nation. It's just bastards v. bastards that give you 500zl per child.
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>>134529351
It's too far gone for that. As I write this, fashies from all over the world are having wet dreams about killing democracy with violence. We should fuck them up.
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>>134529467
They have two choices basically - go for the ancap option and cut taxes and some welfare (especially targeted at non-parents) or continue the path they've been walking so far and give free housing to new parents as lack of affordable houses seems to be the biggest bottleneck, I think.
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>>134529648
Nice larp
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Aussie here, redpill me on poland. Are you guys getting another pinochet?
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>>134529474
You're scared, and scared people say stupid shit. Nobody wanted us to take 500 000 migrants, the number was 20 000. And EU would pay for them. That's not much. Anyway we've got the right not to take them, seeing that we already took 1 000 000 Ukraininans.
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>>134529648
>As I write this, fashies from all over the world are having wet dreams about killing democracy with violence

>fashies

You misspelled "antifa retards". Pic related, a little antifa tyke who is the pride and joy of mom and dad burning a police car at G20.
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>>134528204
Oh cry me a river! Kaczyński isn't even a member of the parliament!
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>>134529474
>becoming France or Germany
>bad thing

Are you even a Pole? I'd prefer getting raped by Somali dudes every Sunday and getting decent roads and housing to being stuck in this Gdynia-ass country
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>>134529677
Pot calling the kettle black. The fashy renaissance is only happening because you're able to delude and agitate from behind your PCs. Take this to the streets and you will be Mussolini'd.
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>>134529711
Pole here, redpill me on Pinochet, so I can redpill the aussie on if we're getting one
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>>134529711
Not really, The Chairman just wants to settle some old rivarlies of his and he needs the courts for that. Some old commies will end up in jail, that's all.
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>>134529530
Which articles exactly? Or perhaps in 2000 years we will still use the same constitution? PO did a lot less transparent shit in 2015 with supreme court judges. Nobody gave a shit (onet and all Germany controlled media)
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>>134529648
First we need to clear what democracy is.
Democracy is:
- human decides
So do you decide if they drop migrants in your town? If not, then it's not democracy. Do you vote how high the taxes are in your town? If not, then it's not democracy.
Democracy doesn't exist in Democracy.
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>>134529791
He's literally an MP, retard.
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>>134529760
Nazi delusions are doing far more damage to society than a burning police car, you idiotic nerd.
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>>134529827
Chilean dictator, made the economy really good by implementing some ancap reforms.
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>>134526203
>democracy
>freedom

lel freedom to be flooded by shitskin and choose from which country theyre from
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>>134526203
I just realized I posted in thread made by paid EU operatives where two 'Poles' argue by agreeing with each other.

How does it work, btw? Do you get paid per comment made, by work done or per hour?
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>>134529370
>But that was the issue, judiciary system became self-appointed mafia with same surnames since Bierut's rule
Any examples or are you just throwing shit at the wall and hope it's sticks?

>Voters gave PiS mandate to introduce those changes
Bullshit, they got no constitutional (66%+) majority in the parliament that would give them the mandate to introduce such drastic changes. What they're doing now is breaking the Constitution, plain and simple. Whatever party takes over after them will have a legit cause to put them under the State Tribunal after all is said and done. Then again we might not have another free elections at this point if things keep progressing as quickly as they do.
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>>134529827
>threw commies out of helicopter
>Saved country overnight
>Economy went STRAIGHT UP
>Chile became 1st world country and best country in south america

living proof that ancap works to a degree. at least the market side of things.
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>>134529794
>I'd prefer getting raped by Somali dudes every Sunday and getting gibs

thats why nobody is taking you KOD here seriously. You just want to have gibs and the world can burn. Who would care about heritage when you can get gibs, right?
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>>134529474
We can become France or Germany in a hearbeat? Just tell us how and we'll do it.
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>>134529998
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrYY3ocQ5o

Song related. Everyone needs to listen!
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>>134529859
According to Constitution the mandate of Supreme Court supremest guy judge is 6 years and nothing can change that for example. And of course the articles on separation of power, to quote 'none of the branches of the government shall be controlled by another branch'.
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>>134527627
FPBP
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I see nothing wrong that they signed a law that allows them to remove judges who have served under the Soviet Communists.
We had the same thing with Nazi judges, it has been time that Poland does something about it and removes them all.
No one who worked in important government positions for this cruel murderous regime should be allowed to keep that position.
I wonder btw why (((media))) does not state correctly state what the law does.
They simply omit the fact that it is about the Communist regime.
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>>134529974
A lot this kind of threads since days. Soros send paycheck.
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Polish media are fucking best right now especially onet and other Germany controlled shits... When we had protests that where not into their agenda , there was silence or pictures of dozens "protestors" but now they are fucking blowing this out of proportions, meteorite hit would be less covered than this, but now somehow all media are like "Germany is woried about Poland system", France thinks we should do this and do that... Everything in foreign media.
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>>134529866
My mom's a migrant. Edgy fascists would chase me out of my home at gunpoint. Because you are unable to accept that a free society welcomes foreigners, nationalism is antidemocratic by default.
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>>134530013
There's a catch - we get only the bad stuff and we're still poor.
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>>134530062
>I see nothing wrong that they signed a law that allows them to remove judges who have served under the Soviet Communists.
There's basically none of them left as they were deposed in the 90's in a legal fashion and the guy that helped writing those laws was actually a communist prosecutor during the martial law.
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>>134530094
Explain this fucker. This is public tv and it's obviously shilling. Now we have a state propaganada machine and you're complaining about free media? Fuck you.
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>>134530094
That's funny, remember how everyone accused us of not having free media like a month ago?
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>>134530124
Work more, build Capital. It takes at least 50 years. You think Germany and Austria rebuild in 10 years?
Problem is no one told you that it takes a decades of moderate 4-5% growth to reach our level.
That's because it's easier to mislead you like fools to be jealous and blame the guys who actually work and make money, in order to demand Socialism.
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>>134530212
>public tv
>not shilling

pick one
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>>134530152
Communists are bread constantly, just like Nazis. We don't allow Nazi judges in Austria too, and there's enough people following this ideology.
So you need to have a law that makes sure that these people who will harm your society are not allowed to reach such positions.
If you don't you are basically spitting on the graves of your ancestors who were killed by this ideology.
How did they feel about Communists back then when they were slaughtered?
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>>134530107
I would torture you and your mom, then execute you for stealing my land and my money.
>nationalism is antidemocratic by default.
You are idiotic by pretending you not stealing my land and money. Go to your own country. I deserve to have my land.
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>>134530237
Oh, I dream of days when Polish people elect someone who implements good economic policies, but King Korwin is too much of a loonie to ever be relevant.
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>>134530356
How do you check them for naziness?
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>>134530212
One is supporting Polish government chosen in democratic way.
Other is supporting Germany and west interests.
Which one you want?
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>>134530261
Other countries like the UK have unbiased state TV (unbiased as in not shilling for any particular party). Just because the media situation in Poland is completely fucked up doesnt mean its supposed to be like that everywhere.
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>>134530107
I'd give up all that democracy bullshit in a heartbeat for living in a safe, rich country free of migrants.
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>>134530394
PO had good economic policies, but they went back on them as soon as they got into power.
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>>134530478
>Other countries like the UK have unbiased state TV
While the BBC does some good work, it's also some of the most abhorrently biased content my government pays to rebroadcast into the US.

There's no such thing as unbiased state TV.
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>>134529812
This shit makes me angry.Fellow anons we need greater organization to fight things like this, we need to be more willing to enact, not mere violence, but organized violence. I hope we can do more about this, otherwise one day the shitskins are going to lose dozens if not hundreds in random white attacks.
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>>134530107
You're right Muhammad, whites should just shut up and accept their demographic displacement by people who would like to see them go extinct and milk their country for everything it's worth and leave their white children poor and homeless or abused as some sort of justice. How dare they want to have a future for their grandchildren that isn't compromised by hordes of (you).
Edgy fucks.
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>>134530482
Name one rich, safe country free of migrants that isn't democratic.
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>>134530469
>supporting
Propaganda is never supporting, propaganda is brain washing. And tbf TVP is right now the worst shilling machine this side of RT and CNN.
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>>134530487
They haven't got a majority without PSL. And Narodowy Agraryzm will always prevail in any coalition.
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>>134530107
I would torture your children until their throat was raw from screaming right in front of you. No larping, you are things that deserve to suffer nothing more.
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>>134530680
Wrong. Everything is propaganda. Telling the truth is simply what is called good propaganda. Good propaganda has nothing to fear from the truth.
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>>134530577
Believe me, Polish state TV bias compared to British state TV bias is like night and day. I would kill to have a state TV as good and productive and the British do.
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>>134529673
Nazis and the DDR had sucess with this:
You have a partner and can buy/build a house or flat if you want but use a state credit you can pay off by making children.
For every child a quarter or some fixed valie gets taken off your shoulders.
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>>134530818
>wants British state tv
Jesus Christ you polacks are retards
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>>134530804
I can agree with that.
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>>134530482
Democracy is shit, but the biggest issue is making sure that those in power don't do it for the sake of itself nor do it with bad intentions. And it's a hard one.
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>>134530429
They get imprisoned, Supporting National Socialism is punishable by up to 10 years of prison.
I'm in favour of freedom of speech though, but I would keep a law that still let's the government make an entry about an individual into some registry when it has been proven that he is supporting this ideology, which can be used to prevent that person from reaching positions of power.
The same could be done with Communists. I bet there's many professors on your university having made statements of support about Communism/Marxism.
Students could report (like they do here in Austria) and the professor could be banned from teaching for life.
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>>134530596
Migrants come here, take land, take housing, take money, take jobs, take nature. Then i have to migrate somewhere else, to their lands they abandoned, since those lands they already leeched to destruction, no trees, no fairness, constant wars. Migrants want to occupy my land, take everything and force me to move to their land they abandoned since it's worthless leeched out land. Migrants are like a parasite moving from host to host. When the host is sick they abandon it and move to another host.
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>>134529987
>muh democracy
>'your beloved PiS'
>PRL judges got already purged
>'average age of judge in Poland is 38, they were 10 year old when communism fell'
>mention Piotrowicz
>'Belarus is this way'
>'I want a new, intelligent opposition to take over and restore order in this country'
>'I don't care if it's right or left'
>'PiS did fuck all'
>'any specific names, huh? You have nothing at all, check mate'
>'they got no constitutional majority'
>'they're breaking the Constitution'
>'put them under the State Tribunal'
>'we might not have another free elections'

Dosłownie jak bym czytał sekcje komentarzy na koszerna.pl, słowo w słowo te same hasła jak z instruktarza plus ta znajoma agresja i wywieranie presji, kto wam kazał spamować tym gównem forczana? Tylu ludzi tu zagląda?
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>>134530818
So you want more "diversity"? dumb pole nigger
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>>134530930
You're preaching to the choir bud, Chinese conquered Vancouver and push everyone out with land prices and Indians and Somalis and their gangs of drug dealing rapists take over the outskirts

Now I live up north where it's white for now, and people say shit like "I wouldn't mind X place being more diverse" or "wow I love seeing Indian people running the stores here it's awesome, bring more of you here!!!"
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Oh haha, TVP Info is a meme at this point.
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>>134530877
You only call BBC bad because you never watched TVP (Polish public TV).

I did so I can compare.
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>>134530107
>majority nationalist vote
>"it's undemocratic"
>minority nationalist vote
"democracy saves the day"
HMMMMMMM.
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>>134531105
>Adam Michnik attacks someone
>Opposition protests something
Only one of those things is news.
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>>134530970
Ja nie wiem jak inni, ale mam potrzebę pokrzyczenia trochę. Słuchaj sobie shadilay i całuj Trumpa, mnie to nie przeszkadza, ale kontytucję to ty szanuj.
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>>134531105
Just as much as it always was, but when all the channels were shilling one party it wasn't as noticeable.
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>>134531180
How about not having state TV
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>>134530394
To be honest, Poland certainly does not qualify as being a poor nation. It's looking better than 70/80ties Austria.
There are always some nations who are richer - we are for example poor when compared to the Swiss (they earn more than double of what we do), who are much more Capitalist/Meritocracy in nature.
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>>134526203
>poland wants to purge communists
oh my stars!
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>>134531219
Show me a headline in TVP Info pre-PiS with so much fucking arrogance as we can witness now.
To quote:
>Opposition is trying to block a law designed to abolish the corruption
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>>134530970
>zero argumentow
>epickie mejmeje
Doslownie jakbym czytal wypoka

oh wait xD
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>>134531090
They call it freedom, competition and democracy, i call it exploitation. Vancouver smelled the money and gave in. People like to tell us that race doesn't matters and that we have no culture. It all matters, even the birds and grass matter. Globalism isn't just hurting races, also nature when they import foreign crab/fish species, let that loose into rivers and lakes, it ruins native nature, same as migrants ruin native races. Then they still talk about democracy and preservation, laughable.
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>>134530375
>>134530482
>>134530596
>>134530746
I make for a far better white man than any of you kissless virgins. You couldn't fight me. I grew up with exercise while you sat on your lardasses and fapped to hentai. You're losing even here now. You cannot do anything outside of the internet. Only the weakest and most pathetic of whites believe in white supremacy, which doesn't mean we won't hit you with full force should you ever crawl out of your NEET caves.
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>>134531221
We're not extremely poor, I visited Serbia and Bulgaria this year and those guys obviously have it much worse.
It's just the centuries old Polish German complex. We look at those guys living next door who earn 4x more than we do for no good reason and we want it here. At least it drives the nation forward.
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>>134530394
He is btw a little bit of a loonie because of his behaviour, I agree.
But I was shocked to see that young students in this television show with him openly supported Communist policies without even noticing it themselves.
They, just like our useful idiots believe they are being compassionate.
I bet there's many teachers in your country (like in ours) who work hard to spawn thousands of little Communist minions.
I can't imagine their parents told them this shit as functional families are usually not so much about equality but about distinct male/female roles.
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>>134531185
>majority nationalist vote

No such thing.
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>>134531180
>>134531220
this
mind numbing ultra materialist hollywood elite tv is the best
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>>134531521
Who says i believe in white supremacy you dumb migrant? I don't have to believe in nationalism to know you are a parasite.
>talks like a parasite
>behaves like a parasite
>it's not of native flesh
It's a parasite.
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>>134531521
No one cares negro, there is a horde of mud people taking our shit and we're not playing games about making exceptions with which ones are productive.
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>>134526203
What are you the sole lefty in Poland??? Why don't you fuck off to Germistan to see the fruits of your labour?
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>>134530877
>3hOMk8Mm (OP)
>jsHsArLu
These are not Poles, these are paid EU operatives shilling against the goverment, it's maybe even the same person. They are using exactly the same buzzwords you can see in comment section on largest polish news' sites (constant agressive, persuasive spam - some of this listed here >>134530970
). I think they are polishing (the irony) their english skills, that's why you have this thread
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>>134526203
i bet you never had anything to do with polish courts. Judges right now are above the law, they do not care about cases, they're corrupted so you can be found guilty even if there's not a single evidance and there's nothing you can do about it. I had to deal with this kind of judge, it's a hell, belive me.

You want to be prosecutor? If your daisn't one you have no chance. Courts have to be fixed!
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>>134531405
I can show you this,
PiS organizing military parade... Pic related
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>>134527627
kys
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>>134530930
You don't deserve the land any more than the migrants do. If you want to best them, you will do so in a fair competition or shut your mouth. These are your options.
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>>134530930
You see that german Ahmed up there. Are you that retarded, did your mom come and work to germany and not leech off system? Did she sign a contract worked for 5+ years and obtain citizenship?

If you say no: GET THE FUCK OUT OF EUROPE YOU NIGGER
If you say yes: Pay your taxes and live your life, europe is having a problem with illegal/undocumented imigrants, not some random people who went to another country to work and stayed there after. Which is a legal way to go to another country ( visa, work permit ) fucking lefties

Apples and oranges dude.
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>>134531766
This is when PO was doing the same
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>>134531673
Funny of a Slavkike to call honest folk parasites. Muslims have a better understanding of pride and honor than the average Slav. If anyone should leave Europe, it's you.
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>>134531766
>>134531796
Basicaly,
PiS in power, German media, its baaad liking your country is baaaad
PO in power, German media, we must cherish out love for our president who is sooo patriotic.
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Vote for SLD
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>>134531900
Come and make us Hanz.
>german
>honest
pick one lol
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>>134531583
Poland will eventually get there, I'm sure. But jealousy is a grave danger for every society, ours included.
Nobody is threatening violence or invasion, you can trade with whomever you want so you have control over your own destiny.
Of course I do acknowledge that some bad players in Capitalism do exist who will use illegal methods to get rich and powerful - that should be punished.
But there are many guys like say a Steve Jobs who got amazingly rich by producing stuff that millions of people want to buy.
Stealing from those people just because they have so much more money will make everyone poor in the long run, because they then will leave the country.
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>>134531900
>honest folk
>just here to leech of the work of your ancestors cause mine aren't worth a damn, and I'd rather not build anything for my people and their descendants when I can just take yours
Lmao
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>>134531714
But that's just the thing. Germany is stronger than ever before. If the status quo persists, Germany will be the world's richest country in 20 years.
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>>134531900
The fact that you're living here is an admission of your people's inferiority in your own mind and preference to abandon your people for material goods.

Such an honest virtuous person
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>>134531788
You are delusional. How can you justify that migrants in Germany have a higher net income than some Eastern European countries?
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>>134531900
Then come here, try to enforce your right on us :^)

>>134531974
SLD is a wreck, thank god nobody takes them seriously anymore.
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>>134531785
Of course i deserve it. I deserve 100% of my land, surely not you. How would it be if every alien from every plant moved to your bedroom? I deserve this, it's 100% my ownership.

>>134531900
Yes, i see your honor shines right through you, by taking other people's land. You don't know the what word honor is by abandoning your own family and land. Fuck off. You are a traitor to own land, your culture, your family, your Muslims, you are nothing but a capitalist, doing anything for money like a a prostitute. Your mommy prostituted herself for German money.
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>>134526203
Your fucking sell out whore.

The courts have been political since Soviet times. The whole point of this move is to purge the ex-Communist hard lefts out, stopping the courts from blocking and shooting down legislation by the current government.

But hey, you arent looking for a discussion you piece of shit, just spreading disinfo and rhetoric.
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>>134532135
>>134532165
Do you not realize that Eastern European countries will be begging Germany for aid if this keeps up? Nationalism is over. Germany has won.
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>>134532168
If I can be a better citizen on "your" land, I deserve it more than you do. Europe should be ruled by fairness and competition, not tribalism.
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>>134532000
I never said we should steal from the Germans. You're obviously right on everything else.
I'd love true capitalistic policies in Poland, I feel like the country would really thrive.
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>>134532057
If the status quo persists Germany will destroy itself in the next few decades.
There's not enough Germans being born and the only 2,8% (according to official stats) of those immigrants who came since 2015 (2 years!) have a job.
Probably even those few jobs are heavily government (thus publicly) subsidised.
There is no hope that German infrastructure can be sustained in the long run if this continues.
Vienna for example, where I live, has more than half of all on long term benefits (who have been more than 1 year without job) being these new immigrants.
And 15% of the population of our city is on these benefits.
So already an amazingly small number of people support all these immigrants, single mothers, old peoples pensions, disabled people and all those who just don't want to work.
How long can this continue? What do you believe?
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>>134532272
>wannabe German
Did your mommy pick Germany for anything else than money? Your mommy is a prostitute. The highest bidder wins with your mommy.
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>>134531950
Graty, wytłumaczyłeś się trollom opłacanym przez EU/Michnika/Petru/chuj-wie-kogo by zawodowo napierdalali anty-rządowe posty na każdym dostępnym medium. Napewno ich wzruszą Twoje argumenty
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EU Soros chimpout, Stasi babushka is pleased.
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>>134532238
This
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>>134532006
I said it before, migrants in Germany have a higher net income than one Eastern European countries. That means the muzzies work better and harder than the slavshits. Your argument is idiotic. Eastern Europe is poor because it's drunk and socialist, not because anyone is ripping them off. Germany and Western Europe are simply far superior as societies, economies etc. It is now time for the Slavic people to become more like us (and less like you).
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>>134532406

It all depends on how much their social security can take. If taxes rise and wages lower, I assure you things will change.
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>>134532163
I'm not the delusional one. You are accepting mass killers, rapists, thiefs. When it's unregulated you can talk what you want, it doesn't hold on water.

Shut up german and give us the eu money. That's all you are good for. kek
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>>134532355
You are so fair by taking my land, wow i feel so democratized. Why aren't you fair to neighbor country from where you came from? That i would like to see. Why migrate all the way here to be fair? First fix where you shit, don't fix what isn't broken. I don't need your fairness, everything was fair before you came here.
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>>134531220
Public tv is alright, it should promote country's culture etc. It shouldn't shill for the rulling party I believe.

>>134531757
I've actually been in court several times and never had a bad experience. Once I've been mugged and the guy that did it yelled 'Jebać sąd' when they fined him with just 3000zł for my broken jaw. Well, ok, maybe I should've been a little pissed as that idiot should've got 3 months in jail to learn something.

>>134531766
Well that's stupid and whoever wrote that is an idiot. But you're missing the point by quoting free media. I've been talking about state media.

>>134531796
Where's 'Opposition doesn't like that Polish Army is growing stronger'? Anyway, again - free media. Or at least not govrnmetnal.

>>134531974
lel no, I'd rather vote Razem
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>>134529467

You expect everything fixed in one year or less? Birthrates are a few percent up. Tjats some 80.000 white babies extra. Shit takes time, society mentality is shifting. and have a god damn baby already.
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>>134532407
For my German dad, whom she loves very much. Enjoy your crippling incest.
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>>134532238
>he dadn't no it was already done
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lustracja_os%C3%B3b_pe%C5%82ni%C4%85cych_funkcje_publiczne
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>>134532355
>South Africa
I rest my case.
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>>134532238
its funny because theres a handful of countries doing this like turkey poland hungary and theyre all blasted for not being (((open))) enough
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>>134532570
>mass killers, rapists, thiefs

Sounds like Slavs

>>134532570
Are you high? Slovenia is trash.
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>>134531900
>claims pride and honor
>leaves own country and people to be a parasite in a richer superior one
my sides
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>>134527677

This.

FUCK OFF SLAVNIGGERS STOP TAKING GIBS FROM MY SUPERIOR INDUSTRIAL COUNTRY REEEEEEE
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>>134532531
Enjoy becoming a third world hellhole, Hans.

Also OP is a fag, (((Democracy))) is for kikes
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>>134532372
Nono, I didn't mean that. I meant that when Communist get into power through exploitation of jealousy they'll steal from all those Poles who work hard, thereby making them more likely to work less or leave the country.
You want to have an environment where the best of your people want to work very hard.
We all know that usually in every big corporation it's very few guys who actually move everything forward by working like they are obsessed.
The others look to work more chill and drink coffee. I'm not saying that it makes them bad though, they just have different priorities in life. (family, hobbies and so on)
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>>134532668
My country is Germany. And Czechia as well, should I decide to live there one day.
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>>134526203

Democracy is just a bunch of levers by which jews can destroy white countries.
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>>134532163
>How can you justify that migrants in Germany have a higher net income than some Eastern European countries?
>i dont understand anything about economy.jpg
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>>134528300
She is not fucking living in Poland, she is now proud citizen of cuckoldry land of Britain
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>>134532682
>FUCK OFF SLAVNIGGERS STOP TAKING GIBS FROM MY SUPERIOR INDUSTRIAL COUNTRY REEEEEEE
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>>134532608
I am sure your country got enough bordering countries where they could use your democracy and fairness. Why come here you freedom child? There's absolutely nothing your ass can contribute besides financial exploitation and genetic destruction. Slovenia had the lowest crime and good standard of living, which gets worse when more of you come. We are better than Germany when it comes to low crime and peace. There's no need for you to fix us. Go fix your home country or surrounding countries, they have big problems. We don't rape our tourists or pocket their money, but your origin country does, go start there democratic child.
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>>134532600
Nah, it's 14k babies extra and we're quickly approaching point where all the economic emigration from the last 10y takes a huge toll on the birthrate.
I'd say free flats for families would change that a bit but it would also create favelas everywhere.
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>>134532664
Sure "Hans"

picture is guy related
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>>134527785
>On the other hand, you fucking well know we have commie judges in courts.

yea, cause PiS is free from commies https://sites.google.com/site/prawdaopis/kadry-pis
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>>134532732
kek no
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>>134530107

Go back to turkey. White people are speaking.
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>>134532791
I was born a German citizen. And in case you still don't get it, anyone can go live wherever they damn please. It's none of your business and you can't do anything about it anyway, keyboard warrior. If I decided to live in your shitty country, what would you do about it? That's right, nothing. You are a pathetic weakling, which is why you picked up nationalist beliefs to begin with. I dare you to put up a fight for that shitty flag of yours.
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>>134531785
Or by force, with a rifle. Starting with you
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>>134526203

If you need a redpill on these protests:


>This change is aimed against the left
>Judges are selected by parliment - not 'the ruling party'
>Countires that also have judges selected by parliment: Ireland, Netherlands
>This change is protested by leftists and people brainwashed by lefties.
>The leftists are calling everyone who disagrees autoritarian communits, in case of faggot OP - russian shills,
>Pic related, the guy who organised KOD marches against PiS ever since they have been elected. Stole money from the organisations budged. Guess what interest he has in courts staying corrupted.
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>>134532947
Already bitch slapped a german turk, i think i'd do fine with you as well. Come i'll be waiting.
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>>134532545
I already pay 50% tax, anything more and I'll move to the Czech republic or something like that.
But here's the thing, they are going to support it by getting our country even more into debt.
Viennas debt has exploded since the immigrants came and the local Viennese Socialist government refuses to reduce the money they give them. They plan on getting more debt.
This continues until there's no lender anymore or the money has become worthless, which will in the end devalue everything I have worked hard for my whole life.
I didn't steal from anyone, I paid my 50% tax without making a fuss about it and then at the end all will become worthless if this continues. It sucks and I will leave before that happens.
We have lots of people like me willing to work like dogs but we destroy ourselves because of our shitty politicians.
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>>134532947
Your birth is a mistake. I don't mind neighbor countries mixing a bit, that's natural, like evolution, it's a slow process. Money migrants on other hand are firstly not refugees, secondly they could migrate to surrounding countries. I am not going to get schooled by money-land grabbing Germans or Ahmeds about democracy and freedom. You got enough Arabic countries and African countries who could need 0.5% of democracy i, the owner of this land invented with my ancestors while you exploited Africa and Arab lands.
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>>134526203
Godspeed brother
I don't think protesting is going to do much, though
We''re going to vote PiS out of power in 2020 anyway
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>>134532788

>Beliving anything this literal kike has to say
>Beliving that Slavs can EVER contribute to the highly industrial German economy made by Germans of superior work ethic instead of alcoholic Slavshits

Poles are so fucking blue pilled on the (((EU))).
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>>134533138
Guess integration is impossible really. Proven by the german ahmed poster.

>If I decided to live in your shitty country, what would you do about it? That's right, nothing.
nigger and you wonder, eh
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>>134533005
Reason doesn't apply to this thread dude, they are professional trolls paid to shill against the current goverment. Go to gazeta.pl and read up comment section under every fucking article, exactly the same words, tactics, methods of persuasion. They spam for living
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>>134533187
>We''re going to vote PiS out of power in 2020 anyway
>Implying they won't rig the election
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>>134532981
Hah, people who can't survive an unarmed fight are usually even worse with a firearm. You're not intimidating. Besides, we have the German people on our side, the only white people worthy of note.
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>>134531221
French here. I totally agree with that. In the big cities it is basically like in West Europe with the cost of living being half of it. In the countryside you have all these rich farmers with huge houses and farmlands and Ukrainians working in the fields. They are building roads and other infrastructures like crazy. In 20 years Poland will be at least above Spain or Italy.
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>>134533258
Your country is de facto shitty when compared to something like Germany, forgive me for hurting your fee-fees. Want a safe space, little cuck?
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>>134526203
>Let the Russian shills with Polish flags begin their dance in the comments, I'll see any of you sane ones on a protest tonight.
Whom should we side with? And why.
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>>134533399
>cuck
this must be your first week here, huh?
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>>134533005
>Judges are selected by parliment - not 'the ruling party'
They're chosen by Ministry of Justice

>Countires that also have judges selected by parliment: Ireland, Netherlands
They're not picked from the party candidates pool.

>This change is protested by leftists and people brainwashed by lefties.
This is protested by anyone who knows what separation of power is needed for.

>Pic related, the guy who organised KOD marches against PiS ever since they have been elected. Stole money from the organisations budged. Guess what interest he has in courts staying corrupted.
I don't even like KOD.

>>134533187
>vote
You mean in the totally free elections overlooked by totally free Supreme Court? If they lose, they'll just call the whole party off on some procedural bullshit and do it again.

>>134533270
Or maybe you're shilling from some troll farm as it was proven that over 2/3 of bought trolls in Polish internet are actually paid by right wing parties?
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>>134533138
You appear to be an incestuous motherfucker. And people said stereotypes are nonsense.
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>>134533399
we all know on this board who the cuck is here
Keep your germanistan, I as hell ain't fighting for germany in future war.
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>>134533258
Integration is possible, but only between similar people. Slavs in Germany integrate, Germans in Slavic countries integrate.
Ahmeds very rarely do. Maybe Bosniaks and some other white Muslims, but Arabs very rarely do.
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>>134527627
> literally has his rights taken away
> celebrates it

You deserve what's coming at ya, stupid subhuman.
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>>134533447
I don't know, Russia wouldn't gain anything from either side winning, perhaps the government losing would weaken anti-russian narrative in Polish media, that's all.
Russia in Poland (just like in the US) is the universal bogeyman when we need someone to blame.
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>>134533447
http://katehon.com/article/defense-pis
This may be helpful.
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>>134533554
I don't use that word often, but in your case it fits. Czech girls are the dominating demographic in Western European brothels. Not that I'd need their services, I have a German gf.
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>>134533447
>Russia
Uh, complicated. PiS is Putin level authoritarian but they're playing anti-russian card with the whole assassination debacle.

On the other hand the opposition doesn't like Russia for it's authoritarianism.

You have your own shill party here, it's called Zmiana but they're terrible.
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>>134533650
It's btw funny how these Ahmeds come here and immediately educate everyone who it's done right because they know best.
We then take a look at the Middle East and what disgusting shit is going on there and are like: LOL. You have to go home.
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>>134533596
Germany would win that war within weeks.
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>>134533762
Czech and Hungarian girls are the best. Polish ones could be cute but in the last decade they quickly become fat and ugly, even the younger ones.
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>>134533762
Oh boy, I can't wait for the right wingers to take over and people like you being punished.
You should better leave while you still can.
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>>134533771
Zmiana is ded, they are cut from russian funding and limited to ten people. Their leader is in prison and vice leader work as a ticket controler in Warsaw public communication.
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>>134533815
Oh no, muh army.
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>>134533898
Sometimes I wish my gf wasn't the disarming angel that she is so I could still slay cute Czech ass for €50 a pop all weekend, but we all gotta grow up.
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>>134534015
Oh wow, didn't know that. They were dumb as shit and even more disrganized than UPR xD
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>>134533815
Against whom? Against Ahmeds like you in our lands. We would win that in a day since Ahmeds are known to run away like cockroaches when it comes to a battle.
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>>134534072
Spoken like a true westerner, fucking disgusting
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>>134533985
>things that will happen

Haha, kys you overweight leatherpants-wearing peasant.
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>>134534159
>but we all gotta grow up
You should've stayed till the end bro.
Everyone has urges once in a while and denying them won't make them go away.

That was my daily target for psychiatric shilling, let's go back to paid political discussion, shall we? :D
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Poland's courts were already political.

By the way, parliamentary selection is FAR more democratic than an appointed and unaccountable club of judges.
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>>134534135
Another interesting fact - their leader Piskorski has/had Swastika tattood on breast, because he was nazi skinhead/neopagan in ninetees.
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>>134534159
These girls only come work here because their men are useless drunks. They even tell you this if you ask. The West had nothing to do with it.
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>>134533566
Too bad it's an english speaking board and you can't instantly call me a 'ruSSki troll putiniarza na usługach kaczystów' or something similar as you would on gazeta.pl. There simply isn't enough 'shiteaters' with sufficient dedication to spam the forums by themselves, all of you are fucking paid by 3rd party.

I love how the (jsHsArLu) responded to my posts and then went silent after being found out (maybe you switched to posting from one IP?), how bout you make honest living like the rest of us instead of spamming for money
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>>134526203
the separation of powers is a meme for morons. In modern (((liberal democratic))) states its one conglomerate. The real separation goes like that:

Academia:creates the doctrine like medieval theologians
Permanent adminitration: Political parties, beaurocrats, law enforcement and military, virtually all people paid by the state: enforcing the docrine created in the academia on the real world

Media:manufacturing consent, keeping the flock in line, witchunting for heretics.

That's how real power works. The political establishment, judges and law enforcement are ONE group. Just look what happens when an outsider gets in, like Kaczynski or Trump. You have activist judges rebellion.
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>>134534310
Sounds good to me.
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>>134532682

How is Ireland lower than fucking Romania?
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>>134530000
Heritage gave me people who want me dead and beat me up on the streets. Heritage gave me an entire country drunk on non-existent greatness of our military.

Gibs gave me a college education, a future pension, and a chance to live in an actually livable country.

So yeah, fuck that noise.
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>>134534136
>flag

Between the two of us, you are the non-German.
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>>134534370
I'm not saying everyone who disagrees is Ruski troll, I'm just saying that statistically it's most likely.

Anyway I respect you and I respect your opinion but fuck off and create your own thread if the ony argument you can muster is 'he's a paid shill'.

>>134534421
I want to believe this is not true.
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>>134526203
How does it feel, traitor? Even the Pakis here understand that you're just leftist scum. Hope Soros demands you to riot for his bucks and you get put on a wheelchair by the police.
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>>134534421
Exacly this. I can't stress enought how much similar are SJW marches to catholic processions in Poland. They have a core of values (enviorment, equity, minority appreciation), their customs and so on.
I like Poland better, being polish catholic is strangely comfy compared to liberal left nonsense. And it works in the long term.
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>>134534640
>if he doesn't agree with me, he must have some nefarious intentions or be paid
That's why we can't have nice things
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>>134533762
false, its post-yugo girls

>>134534727
if you are doing it for free, that makes it even more retarded
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>>134534723
The difference is that Catholic values aren't degenerate and a procession is much more pleasant to look at than SJW shitstorm.
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>>134526203
Democracy cannot save European countries.
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>>134526203
SOROS
SHILL
GTFO

SOROS
SHILL
GTFO
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>>134534885
How do you know? And if we lose our values, our civilization in the process, is it even worth it?
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>>134534727
This isn't a matter of disagreement, it's a matter of national security. I wouldn't mind if they ordered the police to shoot you with stabby bullets instead of the usual fuck off ones.
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>>134535044
Edgy and stupid.
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>>134533309
Personally i was in the military. Go figure the rest
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>>134534855
>if you are doing it for free, that makes it even more retarded
Westerners use incorrectly the term 'useful idiot' (which was reserved for people with actual influence), GRU called people like him 'shiteater'. That is ofcourse if he does it for free which I strongly doubt. Look up posts by (jsHsArLu), that's a professional, trained and pre-prepared spammer.
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>>134527677
oy, may i leave to?
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>>134535258

No, you're white.
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>>134535241
A spierdalaj chuju.
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>>134534872
The single most important thing is focus on families. Family maintains society and instills duty in hearts of citizens.
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>>134526203
Crazy how we have to act like real dictator just for protecting a country from Soros and the lefties.

Separation of leaders and justice is important, but what if you're suddenly invaded by shit tons of lefties judges paid by Soros?

>Protecting Poland & Visegrad at all cost, no matter what cucks says.
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>>134535098
You're literally asking people to riot for Soros and Germany, cunt. And you're putting a shit-tier, SLD-written constitution on your fucking banners, as if it shouldn't be replaced. You know, the same constitution that's been written by literal Russian agents. You have no right to call anyone stupid.

But yeah, do it. Take to the streets, asshole. We're going to go too. You're not going to win that fight.
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>>134535426
>invaded by shit tons of lefties judges paid by Soros
What did he mean by that?
Fuck, the captchas are getting harder.
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>>134535429
German government != Germans. Merkel is a jew, just like chancellor Kern in Austria.
But at least in Austria we'll have a right wing chancellor by the looks of it in October, then this shit will end.
No more Ahmeds for Germany, no matter how that bitch in Berlin screams. Except she starts flying them in, but we wont let them through anymore.
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>>134535429
The change is illegal. You can change the Constitution all you want if you do it by law, I don't give a fuck. Right now PiS is breaking the law and that's disgusting.
I'm going to the streets out of shame and rage, and we'll be rioting for Poland not for anyone else.
>Soros
>Germany
>Russian agents
Seriously, at least write down your conspiracy theories first before posting them online. You could clear up plotholes that way.
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>>134527749
LOK'TAR OGAR!
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>>134526203
You are making these threads for the last few days
Here is what I have to say
Gas the kikes race war now
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>>134527677
We will.
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>>134526203

You have the cart before the horse.

Any changes to the law can be easily amended by a new government. Massive refugees and changing your population cannot be changed, or not easily.
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>>134535841
I started today, monday - friday I have a job.
Or is it a plural 'you'?
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>>134528558
I have your IP, I will visit you soon
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>>134535920
We have no refugees.
>new government
lol, this law will give total control over elections to the rulling party
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>>134533663
What rights you moron? It's not like judges in Poland were elected. They were a self governing body, comprised mostly of former communists. And they strictly regulated who was able to become a judge (in practice only former commies and their children).
The recent changes aren't perfect by any means, but at least they make judges part of the democratic system instead of communist oligarchy.
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>>134535968
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>>134534370
Lmao im still there, you paranoid moron, I just got nothing more to add

This week I spent a shit ton of my free time discussing and informing myself about the issue, signing petitions and going to protests instead of sitting on my lazy ass watching Chinese cartoons like I usually do, so excuse me but I need some rest
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>>134535802
I don't care about a law that doesn't protect me equaly as postcommunist and cooptated neoliberal elite. Conservative and nationalist citzens deserve a platform, deserve a equal right to shape our country.
You had foreign financial support, all the mass media and judicary under your control. This ends now, no matter what cost.
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>>134535802
>your conspiracy theories
A sam się idź pierdol, nie zgadzam się z >>134535044 ,was nie trzeba zabijać, już żyjecie jak ścierwo
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To foreigners: Don't respond in Poland happening threads

It's our private matter, we have some cucks to execute.
Don't interfere, next week everything goes back to normal
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>>134535802
>The change is illegal.
Our new Constitutionl Tribunal disagrees. So fuck off.
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>>134536227
civil war when
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>>134529304
Don't talk with the SorosChild
If there were more Germans like you, Polish-German alliance would be possible. Alas, we are destined to oppose each other
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>>134536227
Son of bich we own u country with all bombs we put there
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>>134529924
>nazi delusions
>OH GOD 30% OF PEOPLE ARE AGAINST REFUGEES SWARMING AND TAKING OVER THEIR OWN COUNTRY
If this is nazi delusion then I must be Adolf fucking Hitler himself.
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>>134534370
He is in the wrong neighborhood.

We know this. But the rest of the board doesn't.
We must point these assholes out and call them out for what they are - paid trolls.
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>>134536204
So instead you'll choose a law that doesn't protect you equaly as PiS elites? Wow, way to go. The judiciary reform is needed, but not like that. Those proposed laws as they are right now should go straight to the trash.
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>>134531521
>kissless virgins
>fapped to hentai
arguing_with_holes.png
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>>134534872
It's because Catholic values give you stability and right and wrong. When you remove god, you remove stability and everything is relative. Yesterday, abortion was evil. Tomorrow, abortion is fucking great, everything should try it. Same with gay marriages, pedophiles etc.
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>>134535100
Oh no, don't fuck with this guy, he did six months of voluntary military service. He a warrior now.
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>>134535023
Leftist values are not civilization, but a parasite.
When we remove your kind, we will have civilization again.
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>>134536216
Idź spierdalaj bardziej, żyje mi się całkiem nieźle :P
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>>134536281
The one picked by PiS and already proven to be biased?
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>>134535944
Your only job is to shittalk Poland
Where do you think you are?
I don't like Pis, but goddamn, I fucking hate you HonoraryKikes. You are doing good job goyim.
Now, have a shekel
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>>134536333
Never. These fucktards will disappear again.
They tried to cause civil war on Christmas Eve.
It didn't happen. And it won't happen now.
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>>134526203
>It's obviously a terrible thing for a country when courts become political.
Why is this a bad thing? At some point the courts need to be somehow connected to the people they judge. They can't just be above it all that makes them out of touch.
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>this thread
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>>134526203
>The refugees and other pepe themes are not important right now

Hi Schlomo, nothing else matters.

Judges are caught in the kike mindset and the web spun by international laws from WW2 forward. For anything outside of normal criminal law they are dangerous idiots at best, actual kikes at worst.
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>>134536577
Democracy, personal freedom and right to speach is leftist how? You know they're going for those next, right?
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>>134536649
As opposed to picked by PO and being not-biased
Face it, tiger, you have been cucked!

Now get the fuck out of my lawn, you are obviously from Reddit, and people like you should be executed
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>>134536716
If the EU (Germany) invades you for not listening then please don't elect commies after the war like before
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>>134536519
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>>134536185
>discussing and informing myself about the issue
>signing petitions and going to protests
This is literally straight out of 'political warfare in internet 101' manual. What's worse you may actually not be a 30gr per post/comment 'troll farm' employee but a low ranking member of Nowoczesna. Do you think this will help your CV? Or help you advance in party ladder?

Petru or Schetyna types wouldn't even let you clean their offices' windows
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>>134536655
Dude, I love Poland and I don't even mind PiS that much outside of the Constitution debasing shit like this. I wouldn't vote for them obviously, but there is a lot of patriots with them.
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>>134536778
For you.

Where were you, when Tusk was signing SOPA/ACTA bill, you fucktard?

These were protests. Millions of Poles on the streets every city, it made it into the news.

This? This is a laugh. We will destroy you.
Physically and ideologically. Be thankful that PIS is in power, instead of us. They are the only thing protecting you from death
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>>134536799
No u.
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>>134536815
I think that this time, it will be Poland who will invade Germany. We will bring them some brotherly help from these awful terrorists
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>>134536543
Jean-Paul Sartre proved that it is not necessairly the case, you simply need a lot of internal discipline to build your own moral system.
Sadly most people aren't willing to do anything like that, that's why we need organised religion.
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>>134536513
PiS is protecting us. Ministry of Justice helped worker in printing house, who refuse to print LGBT propaganda. They are helping nationalists, who are presecuted for "calling for hatred". There is plenty of examples, if you actually did something for the Right you would knew this.
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>>134536919
>Where were you, when Tusk was signing SOPA/ACTA bill, you fucktard?
I've been there as well and eventually they decided against it. What's your point.

>Be thankful that PIS is in power, instead of us.
Oh, so you're kinder-ONR type. Ultimate nazi cuck.
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>>134536966
nice, good luck
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>>134536893
If you loved Poland, you would shut the fuck up.
We can deal with PIS in our own time.
Currently, we have to remove nowoczesna and PO and PSL, because they are a walking cancer and everything they do and say is traitorous.
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>>134535696
I don't know, most Germans seem to be completely brainwashed at this point. But yeah, I don't have anything against nationalists from Germany of Austria, I hope you win your fights, because every victory makes it easier for patriots from other countries to achieve theirs.

>>134535802
> The change is illegal.

I don't even care. It's not like the globalist puppets treated the law seriously. And the law itself is downright awful. We don't have 10 years to improve it slowly. We've got to get rid of the commies in the judicial system, because our state has to be strong when shit hits the fan. If it gets more authoritarian in the process, so be it.

Oh, and calling any of that a conspiracy theory pretty much proves that you're a paid shill or fucking antifa-tier commie. Even moderate leftists understand that Soros is trying to topple conservative governments in Eastern Europe. German politicians are talking openly about influencing our internal affairs, and SLD politicians have had ties with Russia since their PZPR years.

You keep going down this road, you're going to get arrested and/or killed in a few years. And the general population is going to have no sympathy for you.
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>>134533566
>new bill gives the Ministry of Justice the right to choose the Judges.

Why are you lying, paid VOLKSDEUTSCH shill?
Give us the quotation from the bill to support your claims.

Pro tip: It doesn't exist
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>>134536519 >>134536838
The irony
>>134536741
Pic related
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Its funny to see /pol/ denouncing democracy while Taiwanese and HKers are using the same ideology to fight CCP dictatorship. What can the oppositions in those places do if even Western continues are giving up democracy? The CCP officers must be laughing their ass off seeing this happen.
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>>134537066
Luck means shit, when you have Americans on your lawn. US will enter, and we will go with them.
I wish we did, when the Hamburg riots happened.
Missed opportunity, but there is always next time.
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>>134537023
What if somebody working in printing house would refuse to print PiS propaganda? Would they help him because he has right to having an opinion?
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>>134537145
Just wait till they attack you, then you'll have a reason
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>>134537090
>We can deal with PIS in our own time.
How? They have their own personal army and will soon have courts. So they can beat you on the streets and then put you in jail because you're swelling unequally.
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>>134529648
We just want to kill democracy.

What's the point of democracy in a nation where the majority has been brainwashed by kike propaganda to meekly go along with their nations destruction?

Do you really think just letting the percentage of Muslims in your nation steadily climb to a majority is going to produce a result which is different from every other Muslim majority nation? Why do you believe Muslims can bring anything other than misery with far more proof to the contrary while at the same time embracing AGW on the flimsiest of evidence?

There's no point to democracy as long as media and education mass produce fools like you. In the future we can try it again once the kike influence has been removed.
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>>134536815
We won't invade anyone. I don't think you realize how pacifist the Germans really are. What will really happen is a diplomatic ice age between East and West that will benefit noone except our common adversaries (i.e. Putin)
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>>134537215
>they
It's more likely that german turks attack us.
I don't think there are many native germans left

>>134537220
Yeah yeah, and PO didn't have personal army, they didn't own media, they didn't have judges on their side and somehow, they lost. Explain, how they lost, when they had so much power in their grip?

I'm not worried about PIS, because they are afraid of people, while PO always treated people as trash.
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>>134537161
I don't give a shit. When there are real limitation about my rights and my political option freedoms, some hipotetical situation in future doesn't conern me much.
Politics isn't flowers and rainbows, to make a omelet you must break some eggs. I belive in my vision of Poland, if liberals could mantain their right it's cool with me, but it isn't my priority.
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and to compare further

PIS has bad PR, judges are opposing them, Police has mixed feelings, military has mixed feelings, but somehow, you are more worried about PIS, than you are worried about PO?

This is what TVN does to your mind. You are more scared of government that is constantly bashed, bullied, than opposition, who does whatever they want, no matter the means necessary.

Just think for fuck sake, because it's getting ridiculous. You just make me sick.
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>>134536919
>Millions of Poles on the streets every city
I wonder if you really believe what you write or do you just mash buttons on the keyboard randomly without proofchecking for facts

ACTA, as shitty as it was, was not unconstitutional and was eventually rejected so that comparison is utterly pointless, meanwhile PiS is going through with their trash bill even though there are protests that are wider in scale, demographics and attendance than ACTA protests could ever hope to were. This honestly only shows how many fucks PiS gives about the regular Poles (hint: zero)
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>>134537253
Islam is harmless. It's just a dying religion. There's no white genocide. There are real and tangible political threats that you don't see because you occupy your mind with this nativist bullshit, which is precisely what the enemy is counting on.
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>>134537527
Oy gevalt. Pic related, these are the fucks that I give about your post. If you don't like it, I'll like it thousandfolds
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>>134537314
>Yeah yeah, and PO didn't have personal army
Macierewicz started that

>I'm not worried about PIS, because they are afraid of people
Hundreds of thousands of people are marching their streets and they don't give a fuck.
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>>134537056
>and eventually they decided against it
Didn't polish ambassador in Japan sign the ACTA agreement at 3.AM at night so society wouldn't know about it like 5 years ago? Or maybe we are living in different realities? Are you paid for shilling since 2012 or something? Yes indeed, you deserve to and have to be put against the wall and shot, better sooner than later
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>>134537613
Sooner, better sooner.

Like I said, I don't like PIS, because they are too good for these assholes. I know that opposition is shit, and therefore should not be touched, because it will stink, but god fucking damnit, every time I see one of them, I feel like getting a gun.
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>>134537093
>is illegal
>I don't even care.
PiScucks in a nutshell

Kaczynski could pass a law thatd legally allow him to fuck their underaged daughters in front of them and they'd still find reasons to defend them
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>>134537613
>Didn't polish ambassador in Japan sign the ACTA agreement at 3.AM at night so society wouldn't know about it like 5 years ago? Or maybe we are living in different realities?
You do know about time zones, right? Oh right, everything is a conspiracy.
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>>134537612
> Macierewicz started that

Calling the territorial defense a "personnal army" and calling someone else a Russian shill. Jesus Christ. Go drink a bottle of bleach, you fucktard.
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>>134537715
>I feel like getting a gun.
You need to be at least 18yo for that.
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>>134537737
Yes, because everything that PO did was legal.
Where were you then? You fucking cuck.
You deserve everything bad that will happen to you.
And I assure you, a lot of bad things will happen to you.
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>>134537805
Then it's not a problem. You better get one, but you probably will need your father to sign the papers
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>>134537314
>I'm not worried about PIS, because they are afraid of people, while PO always treated people as trash.
Haha what? PO were a bunch of pacifists who buckled under a slight pressure (see: wprost tapes, ACTA), it's PiS who are openly ignoring everyone around them including their own voters
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>>134537131
I've read about situation in Taiwan and Hong kong, China buys out your politicians, media (Taiwan) and they have billions to futher invest.

In decade or two Taiwanese will beg for old style Kuomintang to return, just like people in Hong Kong already started to miss the white devil, his laws and rules of conduct.
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>>134537752
It's a military force directly responsible to him and not the president. That's a private army.
We need a force like that for assymetric warfare but they're being equipped with elite weaponry instead of guerilla stuff which is needed for that kind of war.
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>>134537737
Yeah, and when PO breaks the law when appointing supreme court judges it's all good? Fuck you. This country has been somewhat authoritarian for two decades, you're just mad that you're no in power anymore.

I didn't even vote for PiS, but I care more about my country than about shitty laws that were put on the books by literal traitors.
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>>134537864
>slight pressure
>millions of people protesting
>police beating people
yeah, that was fucking democratic as opposed to

>retards are protesting
>police are protecting them, so normal people will not beat them and give a reason to say "see, this is PIS, this is their democracy"
>"they divide people"

I will welcome your demise, and I will do whatever I can to hasten it.
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>>134537835
At least I can still talk to my father, yours bitten the bullet in 1945.
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>>134537583
>no arguments
Damn it feels good to be on the right side, retards just go down like flies after you destroy their shitty narrative
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>>134537986
Yes, your communist father killed my AK father.
I will not forgive it.
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>>134537543
>Islam is harmless.

Tell it to the people of Mindanao.

>There are real and tangible political threats

We already have over 10% Muslims and they are actually becoming more orthodox, not less. Islam is a very good meme, the higher the percentage the harder it is to leave it behind.

"The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming." just doesn't do it for me to distract me from the threat of mass non western immigration.
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>>134537948
>retards are protesting
Go outside and observe those protests today and don't listen to TVP Info. Just check it out man and see for yourself. And if you don't like it I don't know attack somebody, lol, let's see how it turns out for you.
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>>134537931
There's nothing elite about decent infantry weapons and anti-tank stuff. They're getting the equipment that they should be getting. If they were supposed to be a fucking death squad, they'd just get AKs and way more training.

If you think you can indoctrinate someone to kill your political opponents during a fucking weekend course, you're fucking retarded.
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>>134537811
Uwaga grozny wykopek nauczył się karate z chińskich bajek
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>>134538050
Ok, that was pretty funny.
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>>134538042
I don't have problem with you, because your posts have actually some point. I have problem with aggressive shills from Soros. But I have only one request. Keep your points to yourself, until we clean the shit in our country, okay?
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>>134529712
1 is too much you fucking cuck, wtf are you talking
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>>134538093
I don't know. I was in few cities last few days (including warsaw), and I've seen nothing unusual.
But maybe it's because there are so many retards that at some point you stop differentiating them.
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>>134538105
The regular army should get it first though. In the assymetrical warfare well-trained semi-guerilla groups have a support role and should do stuff like demolishing bridges, laying mines, destroying supply lines while the regular army fights regularly.
And instead of buying a shit ton of TNT for that formation the first thing they buy is a fancy pistol.
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>>134538136
Bruce Lee Karate Miszcz
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>>134538204
I work in a field when I need to communicate with service business owners. Everytime I try to contact somebody there's 50% chance it will be an Ukrainian employee. You hear ukrainian and bastardized polish everywhere in big cities now.
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>>134537948
>millions of people protesting
Fucking stop, seriously

The only time there were ever millions of Poles on streets was when Jan Pedofil 2gi came back to his old country to laugh at peasants while fueling his diabetes with kremowki
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>>134538406
Delet this or PiS approved court will sentence you to death.
Ok guys, I think this thread is done for. I will not be posting another one. See you on the other side of this thing.

And to you, nazi Pole, fucking follow your leader and die already.
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>>134527749
That snowshrek lives is Britain tho
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>>134537715
I did not vote for PiS in last two elections either, as I refused to legitimize the rule of post 'Round table' system. But Kaczynski's opinions on the 'układ' after more than 25 years of non-stop media attacks and ridicule proved to be right, and I saw all the Mazgułas and Kondrad Ms on the streets, this absurdity has to end, we have to eliminate the primitive, impertinent low-tiew criminals first and then go for the big post-commie players.

And those 30-50 groszy per comment people need to be held accountable as well, together with their employers
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>>134538511
Godspeed anon, I actually enjoyed those threads
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JEBAĆ KURWY KOMUNISCI, ZAWISNIECIE CWELE JEBANE JUŻ NIEDŁUGO AHHAHA
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>>134538699
It was my first and last actually.
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>>134538751
Thats even better then
It means there are more than 3 people left with reason on this shithole of a board
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I can't see why those terrible, White Islamophobic racists are upset at the enrichment caused by these magnificent Muslims. Murder, mayhem chaos, rape and other such multicultural, diverse experiences are wonders to behold and make our drab lives more exciting and livable. After all what can make life more livable than slaughtering people left and right?

Luckily, voters such as in France recently, and a few months ago in Austria and Holland, voted for more enrichment by voting for candidates who want enrichers to invade, sorry, immigrate to their countries. Luckily we can thank democracy and our intelligent white brethren who are letting these superb incidents to be happening more and more. Won't it be nice to read in the not too distant future that an extinct white race once ruled over Europe and let itself be willingly wiped out while having a big smile on its face and blood over every other part of its body.
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>>134539362
faggot
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>>134527627
The fact that you think this shows Poland is screwed... good luck to you sane poles
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