Why is the alt right so dependent on youtube??

>>134525618
>whines about safe spaces
>wants to make YouTube his own safe space

sage

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>>134525618

There's no realistic alternative right now. And Youtube is not censorious enough to cause a full blown exodus. They mainly delete videos based on mass flagging campaigns, not because some Jewtube employee is sitting there manually deleting alt-right videos. Usually at least

>>134525618
Alt right isn't real. It's just The_donald tier figures who are there to cash in on the movement.
>>134525718
Didn't even read the OP

>>134525618
Whatever happened to Daily Motion, is that still around?

>>134525804
>Alt right isn't real

t. Rabbi Avraham Sixgorillionsteinberg

>>134525618
YouTube shouldn't be allowed to censor. Youtube should be viewed as a utility and nationalized. You can't ban people from using verizon for being racist, and you shouldn't be able to ban from youtube for being racist since it is now just as important a means of communication as your cellphone.

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>>134525618
>HAHA STUPID DIFFERENT RIGHTIES WHY DO YOU GET UPSET WHEN THE PLATFORM THAT HAS THE HIGHEST TRAFFIC FOR YOU TO SPREAD YOUR OPINIONS BANS YOO
gee I wonder why

>>134526003
If it is real what is the "Alt-right" and why is it always used as a boogeyman term by politicians? Is it something that isn't
>National socialism
>Fascism
>White nationalism
>Libertarianism
Or any of the other /pol/ ideoligies? And if so, what separates it?

>>134525767
Mass exodus would be the best thing that happens. How to accelerate it and create backlash against jewtube?

>>134525618

Censorship

YT > Facebook > Patreon > Twitter

The key thing the altright needs is a funding platform alternative to Patreon

The funding platform is a tool, it doesn't need to be interconnected in the same way as Twitter

>>134526029

Do you have any understanding of the rights of a private company? YouTube is allowed to make their own decisions regarding the content along with their own rules.

I'm running out of things to watch now Murdoch Murdoch is gone. Who else is there?

>>134526029
youtube is a private company thats heavily dependent on ads paid by companies.
as companies wishes to keep their image clean they rather not post their ads on places that peddles hate.
otherwise 4chan will be rich and ad laden by now

tldr fuck off from social media and make your own neo nazi peddling site.

What other sites are as populated as YT? The problem is Google have the monopoly, sure you can use Dailymotion or Vimeo but they don't have the audience required and it's not going to change any time soon.

>>134526255
>Do you have any understanding of the rights of a private company?
Do you know what it means to nationalize a company? Or can you just not read?

>>134526321
see above. You're both retards

>>134526171

It's white nationalism.

>muh safe spaces
says the one banning opinions, lol

The Alt Right doesn't have huge tv networks like the left does. CNN, MSNBC, and even Fox are all hostile to the alt right. Those outlets are well funded and reach hundreds of millions if not billions in the case of CNN (worldwide). YouTube is a way of getting the message out with very little cost. The downside is that alt right folks using YouTube are at the mercy of Google. Perhaps someday another service such as Twitch will come to challenge YouTube's dominance and Google will have to treat channel creators better but as it stands now, Google can and does use YouTube to squash points of views it does not like.

>>134526310

>Murdoch Murdoch

What the actual fuck, I just checked and you're right, fuck. Any reason why that happened?

>>134526383
Then call it that. Alt-right as a term serves no purpose.

>>134526029
>Youtube should be viewed as a utility and nationalized.
No. Turn that giant NSA data center in Utah into a video repository

>>134526369

Well why the fuck would you nationalize it? And how? That's fucking retarded, lets limit internet freedom even more

>>134526369

Fucking faggot

>>134526489
Then why is the alt right so popular? It would never have gotten to where it is was known as white nationalism. The term white nationalism comes with too much baggage

>>134526447
Commie fags were mass reporting videos. If the channels get too many strikes, they get banned. Instead, they either removed the videos or made them private to prevent getting banned completely.

>>134526594
>muh freedoms
because I'm not a cuck like you, that's why

>>134526614
>White supremacist
The irony.
Again, define "Alt-right". What do you mean my the term? If you agree that it's white nationalism under a different label can you show how its supporters are effectively white nationalists?

>>134526645
and why would youtube would listen to you, some hateful piece of shit no job fuck inches away from shooting up a school because he couldnt get laid?
you cant program your site for shit and here you are bitching because a superior site nukes your hateful crap.

>>134526763
You're a fucking idiot. Go look at any alt right twitter account or website to see how it's white nationalism. You're too stupid or uniformed for this conversation

>>134525618
flaggot leftypol bullshit

t.sage

>>134526801
>and why would youtube would listen to you
You don't ASK a company to nationalize itself, you dumb shit faggot, you force them.

>>134526223
The trouble is that payment processors will refuse to deal with anything un-PC. You can't have an explicitly altright platform if you want to be able to accept Visa or MasterCard. Its a nice little racket and way of control (((they))) have worked out

>>134526383
the alt right believe it or not is a much more softer word than white supremacism or neo nazism.
you dont want us to call you that now

>>134526881
you want to force them HOW? dumbass no job LARPing degenerate.
keep on making burner accounts and get banned again on social media you stupid ass pizza face fuck

>>134525618

Because they have no access to any other forms of wide access media.

Same with patreon - They have no access to finance other than direct financing by supporters.

Since, unlike Antifa or the left, their message isn't inherently corporate and extreme capitalism, they are pretty much silence by any establishment source.

>>134526840
It's a loosely defined term and I'm pointing out the fact. Kekistan civic nationalism faggots call themselves alt-right, which isn't true by the thread definition. Is the alt right a clear movement that has fundamental, unique values? I have not seen proof of that.

>>134525618

>widest reach to audience of the entire world
That fact alone makes it worth attempting to spread the word, the injustices, the truth.

Better yet, while you believe that the entire "alt-right" is a single homogeneous group, (which is like saying the "entire black race"), it is almost impossible to distinguish the differences online between sane people and leftists/liberals/normies etc. This makes it difficult for youtube to quell individuals and outspoken ideas before they arise, and any attempt to do so will see a huge drop off in userbase.

Doubly worse for youtube; It is a corporation. The only real interest is in money. Ultimately, the whole game is set up to get money. Money is the only language. When you lose huge userbases (ie pewdiepie) you lose money, and no corporation should be stupid enough to make bad decisions like that.

>>134527057
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2016/08/what-alt-right-is.html

>>134527018
I will either obtain power and do it myself or redpill trump on twitter.

>>134527057
You are talking out of your ass and you're behind the times. "Alt-right" and "alt-lite" are now clearly distinct groups. Even the ADL can separate the two:

https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/from-alt-right-to-alt-lite-naming-the-hate

>>134527018

You become a socialist state and simply take it over and force it to spew propaganda 24/7.

That's the /leftypol/ idea anyway.

Good luck with that though.

>>134526645

Not an argument, go back to school

>>134527178

No you won't fucking faggot cunt.

>>134526928

You don't understand the term, it's history or what you're talking about.

It's not called Alt-Right to soften a message. It was to distinguish themselves from the other far right elements in the U.S. that were more Libertarian in mindset and wanted to remove race from the equation.

>>134527142
You got the core values down, I see that. In order to really prove the legitimacy of the movement, however, there must be a number of people who agree with those values. Any notable sites and figures who follow the ideology (and don't say 4chan because this place has all kinds of divisions)

>>134526223

/pol/ has already been through this back in 2011 with Operation Payback - When Assange got arrested, the Feds quickly shut down pay pal access and any other forms of easy payment to his defense.

Hence the whole shutting down Amazon etc.

Which resulted in a whole lot of bullshit, shutdowns and jail time.

>>134527427
shut up

>>134525618
this annoys me as well. they should be off you tube by now, but it shows too many people are hooked one what they think they watch freely. There's a certain slime that people think the accumulate using other sites.

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>>134526905
This is why cryptocurrencies scare them so much. They'd lose control over how money moves around. (((They))) want to take a cut of every transaction while the authoritarians want to be able to track every transaction. The irony is that the kind of shit Patreon is pulling is going to push more into the world of cryptocurrencies. Jews always overreach and end up fucking themselves in the end.

>>134526223
I truly cannot figure out why alternatives to youtube, Facebook, Patreon etc. don't exist.

It's not like there are right-wingers who can't code. It's not like there are no rich right-wingers, outspoken ones too. And it's not like there aren't any right-wing banks and funding sources. Of course there are.

Why?

>>134527517
What's that supposed to mean? Really helps your case desu. So far the only people I see who claim to be alt right are civic nationalists and other degenerates. None have supported the values that you mentioned.

>>134527571
Alternatives do exist. Vimeo and Twitch exist, they just don't have the market size that YouTube does.

There are a few rightwing versions of Patreon starting up but it's still early days for them. They'll have a more difficult time because they're late to the market and the mainstream is going to try to take them down. Don't be surprised if some ISPs start refusing to peer connections to them if net neutrality goes away.

>>134527571
right wing alternatives to those site doesnt exist because they'll be more greedy and money hungry than them

for example:
the closest yt alt is liveleak. they dont monetize your vids because theyre not owned by google who's kind enough to offer monetization on yt Content Creators after they bought it

now imagine right wing patreon exists, you gotta be fucking stupid to not think they're not gonna take at least half the cut because maintaining the site and their meth addiction arent cheap.

>>134527571
>Youtube
It isn't profitable to host large videos when the community that uses you uses adblock
>Facebook
This could work but facebook itself is becoming a dated concept
>Patreon
There are probably some funding sites out there. Usually not with timed donstions, but maybe there are extentions or some workaround.
>>134527813

>>134527571

Because they get shut down.

>Rich Right Wingers

Name one.

People have to realize that "right wingers" with income and influence are NOT etho-nationalist minded.

The reason Islamic ideology that is far, far, far more dangeorus and radical than anything from the Alt-Right is free to be spread is because there are very wealthy Muslim individuals who wish to see it spread, and will lean on private entities and goverments in the west to maintain it's spread.

No such thing exists for "white" people.

>>134525618
cause they don't have real jobs and YouTube is their only income
Really if they wanted to really "take a stand against youtube' ot whatever theyd only post to vid.me

>>134526029
No, YouTube is private company and they can do whatever they want.
I know they shouldn't, but they absolutely can.
Stop visiting it for once and vote with... hmmm, not your wallet... with your clicks.

>>134525618
>Slowly sink youtube
I mean alright fine

>>134527853
>There are probably some funding sites out there.
Pax Dickson just started one
https://counter.fund/

>>134525618
Non argument

Some websites have become so big and so influential in modern culture, they are essentially an extension of the internet, and should probably be regulated to enforce freedom of speech laws

This is no different to SJWs controlling academia, and we must not allow them to control all popular mainstream information sites

>>134527986
*Dickenson

>>134527813

Incorrect.

They are LESS greedy and money hungry. That's the problem.

Alt-Right is bad for business. It's inherently anti-corporate and anti-capitalist at it's core.

A right wing patreon will be shut down for financing terrorism or payment processors, as we know from experience, will simply not allow it to work.

This will be partially circumvented in the future with the rise of crypto currencies and the like, but for now it's simply too difficult for most people to care about it.

>>134527478
That was under a liberal Federal government. Obama isn't in power anymore.

>>134526321
Start googling companies who support Republican/right-wing causes and politicians. There are TONS of them. It's time we organized our support for them and put that out there.

MONEY TALKS.

If you reward companies for supporting conservativism, they will keep on doing it. There are as many of us as there are of the left, plus plenty of apolitical people who will support whatever company without worrying about it.

>>134526322
>>134526322
>sure you can use Dailymotion or Vimeo but they don't have the audience required and it's not going to change any time soon.
They never will if you don't start using them!!! WTF is it with so many millennials, you have no fucking attention span, you just want everything rightfuckingnow with no effort...look, not so long ago youtube had no audience either. Create change!

>>134526435
>even Fox are all hostile to the alt right
I love it when people who don't watch Fox talk about Fox. Except for faggot Shep Smith, they are quite supportive of the alt/right--Hannity and Carlson especially. We should spread videos of their shows to people who don't watch much TV; Fox has the highest cable news ratings right now for reasons, and a lot of those reasons have to do with the rise of the new right.

>>134526905
Do you know this for SURE? I think that if you offer these greedy megacorps enough money they would gas their own children. And while cryptocurrencies are a great idea for alternate forms of financial support, here we go again with the millennial thing. You know, right, that there are other forms of payment out there? You can
--send cash
--wire money
--send checks
--send cashier's checks
--send traveler's checks

etc. etc.

Just start, do something, stop being so damned defeatist because wahhh everyone likes liberals and is mean to us. If we build enough success and power, guess what, the powers that be will start kissing OUR asses too.

>>134528046

You have to realize that Republicans are literally no different from Democrats and Obama on this issue.

America is strugging with this right now, but as someone who has seen this play out in Britain and Australia already, it's sad to see the U.S. running up against the same issues.

>alternative payment methods

The whole point is that they're difficult.

That said - Give it a little bit. People ARE working on alternatives.

You need to build a reputable, simple to use system. Likewise, to a degree, you need to remove ideology from it.

Things are really uphill at the moment for all of us because the communist left have simply become tools of the capitalist ruling elite.

It's why organizations like the World Anti-Communist League which could be counted on for spending millions on Far Right causes essentially no longer exist - There are no communists to fight. Antifa for instance are literally now just the brown shirts of the Neo-Liberal economic elite.

>>134527570
Absolutely, and that's why they keep making noises about getting rid of cash too. I suspect that (((they))) don't really want to do that though because it would impact their own criminal ops, money laundering etc. But some authoritarians out there are longing for it so the subject keeps coming up.

>>134527758
That's great to hear. Might be better not to create specifically right-wing competition for Patreon, but simply uncensored rivals which seek the largest market share possible.

>>134527900
>Name one.
>People have to realize that "right wingers" with income and influence are NOT etho-nationalist minded.
>The reason Islamic ideology is far, far, far more dangeorus and radical than anything from the Alt-Right is free to be spread is because there are very wealthy Muslim individuals who wish to see it spread, and will lean on private entities and goverments in the west to maintain it's spread.
>No such thing exists for "white" people.

There are a couple I've read about here but I'm tired and can't recall their names. Point is that the stronger we grow, the more we flex and augment our power, the more rich fucks will support us because they'll see advantages in it.

Your point about the elites not being "etho-nationalist minded" is well taken. I actually think that even on the left, men like Soros who put their money where their mouth is are rare. He's a gonzo fucker. Most of them just virtue signal. There's still benefit in that for the left, but it's not as good as having more Soroses would be.

And your point about Islam is spot on. Terrifying, and very accurate. We need to create those rich right wing influencers, we need to BECOME them. And I don't think it's quite as hopeless as you think; I believe that there ARE such individuals out there for white people, but that they are currently still in chickenshit mode; they see no profit, no benefit, in doing for whites/Europeans what the rich muzzies are doing for their people, and too many risks still loom large. But if we can make a more positive vision real for them, if the possibility of rewards becomes more real--or if personal threats to them become strong enough--then they will slowly begin to emerge from the shadows. Anything we can do to make that happen more quickly, we should do.

>>134525618
>community guidelines
Youtube bans videos with right wing "hate"speech like calling out jews on their bullshit, but allows creepy shit targeted at kids and gay fisting, despite the mountains of reports these videos get.

>>134528298
>You have to realize that Republicans are literally no different from Democrats and Obama on this issue.
I do get that; I just wish more people did. It's a very heavy realization and many are running from it as hard as they can. I do my best to spread it and redpill and I've had some success, but it's an uphill road.

Great post; I hope you come around often.

>Things are really uphill at the moment for all of us because the communist left have simply become tools of the capitalist ruling elite.
Yep. Some of us did see this coming, even liberals. I used to be what I guess is called a "classical liberal"; back in the 90s, my like-minded friends and I were very leery of where corporate power was headed, and would often say that people were becoming too trusting of the corporations and their impossibly wealthy scions. Now most of those same friends are thoroughly brainwashed and have forgotten everything we used to see so clearly. It's heartbreaking.

>>134529496
do those videos encourage people to separate themselves just because they have a different skin color, sexual identity or faith?
do those videos preach hate?

the fuck youre talking about kangaroo fucker? this world isnt nazi world