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The Austrian foreign minister is saying the only thing that makes

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Once the illegals are kept on the islands and only those who actually get asylum are moved to the mainland, the illegal arrivals will drop massively. Only those who believe they can actually get asylum will come, because who wants to be stuck on an island for 3-4 yrs without the possibility to make money?
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>>134520865
you don't understand niggers ask the Australians they have cunts that will rot for twenty years on Christmas island rather than work and honest day in their own countries.
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>>134521112
I heard the Australian island solution works with illegals pretty much not coming any more?
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>>134520865
I'd rather see the boats and passengers being shot, but that is a start at least.
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They will still want free food and etc on an island,this is not solving anything.
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>>134521329
>They will still want free food and etc on an island,this is not solving anything.

It solved the situation in Greece, mate. Greece stopped the ferry shuttling to the mainland and now the illegals even want back to Turkey.

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Somali refugee Abdulaziz says he is "suffocating" in an overcrowded camp on the Greek island of Lesbos, where he shares a tent with a dozen other Africans.

The 30-something resident of the Moria camp had been hoping to reach Germany when he set off on his journey, but instead is stuck on this Greek island off Turkey's western coast waiting for his asylum claim to process.

"It's like a prison here. ... I'm suffocating," said Abdulaziz who has been languishing in the camp for the past eight months.

"There is always someone screaming, always fights," said Abdulaziz, who was injured in the leg while fleeing from Turkish police.

He is just one of the thousands of migrants and refugees stranded on Greek islands a year after Turkey signed a landmark agreement with the European Union to substantially reduce migrant flows.
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>>134521785
So who pays for their free island holidays?
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>>134521250
It was only our treasonous left wing party's working with Soros's smuggling networks that were trying to flood Australia with Illegal immigrants, once the issue became a political football the people got their way and it was stopped. The whole thing is artificial, they're not refugees, the refugees are in Jordan.
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>>134521942
>So who pays for their free island holidays?
The EU does.

Look, no solution is perfect, but at least the number of illegals coming to the islands dropped 98%. Why? Because the ferries to the mainland stopped. Italy just fucking should do the same. It works.
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>>134521942
>who
Gee i wonder who
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>>134520865
Look, I agree with this, but I hope Austrians realize that this is just OVP posturing to keep FPO votes down. The minute they get re-elected they will go back to being cucks again
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>>134522065
The island solution works in Aussieland. You are pretty much the only sensible country in this whole damn world.
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>>134522228
>The minute they get re-elected they will go back to being cucks again

I doubt it. Kurz wants to win elections down the road. If you turns around 360 degrees and goes for the same shit the socialists and communist greens go for, then he will be a one time chancellor.
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>>134522104
Tow them back to libya/wherever then sink the boats .
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>>134521785

I feel kinda bad for them. Sure I don't want them here but in the end they are human beings and shouldn't live in such horrid conditions, why not give them a free lift home?
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>>134522316
>Tow them back to libya/wherever then sink the boats .

Wrong. Once you open up camps on islands and keep them there, nobody will come any more. Trust me, nobody. They rather work in Libya making some money than sit on an island getting 0 euros for years. They need to send money to smugglers and family at home.
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>>134522301
Didn't his party already let a shitload of migrants through? Hell even PD here in Italy now said "let's help them in Africa", while they constatly called the right racist for saying the same thing. I'm afraid all of this is just pre-election bs and not actual policy change, both here and in Austria
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>>134522357
>Sure I don't want them here but in the end they are human beings and shouldn't live in such horrid conditions

Sorry, what horrid conditions? Lesbos is a party island, beautiful and nice. The conditions in the camps there are probably paradise compared to Somalia. He should be grateful he isn't being killed by random Islamists like in Somalia.
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>>134522543
>Didn't his party already let a shitload of migrants through?
I think that is the Austrian socialists who currently have the chancellorship.

Once the OVP and FPO form a coalition, I just doubt the OVP could ever let a shitton of illegals through, because the FPO will not stand for it.
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>>134522558
Let's hope Europe listen to Austria, Hungary and Poland and that our next elections (soon) Lega Nord will get at least 30%
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>Austria and Hungary taking a stance against rabid migrant trafficking
2.0 when?
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>>134522701
>Lega Nord will get at least 30%

Is there any chance for a based right winged coalition government between Berlusconi and Lega Nord after your next elections?

Also, when are you guys having elections? Any date yet?
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>>134522694
Here's hoping you are right
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>>134522509
You want to fill islands with blacks? This is crazy, you think they will just sit there, sing blues songs and eventually go home..

They will riot, burn down the camps,cause no end of trouble,sjw will hire boats to 'rescue the poor migrants.'
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>>134520865
If refugee is in Germany for 6 years in apartment he becomes a German citizen and you can't fill out asylum application outside of Germany for Germany.
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>>134522806
>Is there any chance for a based right winged coalition government between Berlusconi and Lega Nord
90% sure it's going to happen. The good thing is that Lega now has more votes than Berlusconi, so it will be a "far" right traction coalition. As for election dates it should be 2018, but who knows. The current unelected govt was supposed to just make electoral law and then fuck off, but they are still here. So anything is possible
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>>134522958
>implying mafia isn't smuggling migrants for personal gain
What is Berlusconia again? Also he has no power to change international refugee law.
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>>134522719
This is how it should look like now.
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Right cunts, We've been saying it for fucken yonks mate, FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL.
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>>134522836
>You want to fill islands with blacks? This is crazy, you think they will just sit there, sing blues songs and eventually go home..

They do that with the Australian solution, don't they?

Come on, we all know the Australian solution is the only real solution and Italy should go on and start implementing it.
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>>134523063
I'm no Berlusconi fan, but in all fairness the last Berlusconi government stopped all migrants in Libia through an agreement with Gheddafi.
> Also he has no power to change international refugee law.
Less than 5% of people who get to Italy are actual refugees. And that counting bullshit like climate refugees and shit like that. Let's start by stopping the 95% and then worry about the 5%
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And they'll stay on the island, and eventually displace the current population because of EU gibs, and therefore white genocide.
Hey jude go crawl back in your fucking hole Hans Schlomo. You're not fooling anyone, and all these niggers deserve to be burried alive.
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>>134523173
Australia has shark infested waters between islands and mainland..
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>>134523116
Can the Greeks come too if they want?
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>>134522867
>If refugee is in Germany for 6 years in apartment he becomes a German citizen
No. This is not true. Look it up. http://www.bamf.de/DE/Willkommen/Einbuergerung/InDeutschland/indeutschland-node.html

There are quite a lot of requirements even for refugees. You need to speak some German, have no criminal record, go to integration courses (costs are 3000 euros) etc. etc. This is why Germany has one of the lowest naturalization rates in the Western world. We would require 120 yrs to nationalize the people who are currently in Germany right now... but the time period is higher because the rate is dropping.
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>>134523083
PD voter? Btw Salvini doesn't matter, what matters is the party and senators
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>>134523258
And blacks can't swim. Checkmate.
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>>134523258
>Australia has shark infested waters between islands and mainland..
So has Italy.
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>>134523485
One shark at least is e enough to stop 1000 Africans making for the mainland?
If fhey just crossed the sea a month ago they willstop at nothing to get to their goal.
Tbh just send them all to Germany cut out all the hand wringing bs.
You get on with it, you fucking well sort it out.
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chrge gulf states to bring them back adn for safe zoen over there!!

fuck capcha 6 rounds!!im getn fuckin adblock if 4chan does nt cut this shit otu
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>>134523304
Refugees don't go through same naturalization process as everybody else. Look up discretionary naturalization, where refugee may not need to know German language.

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/refugee-law/germany.php
>B. Discretionary Naturalization
>to mean that a period of six years of legal residence in Germany is sufficient for recognized refugees.

>X. Monitoring and Movement of Refugees While in the Country
>After a period of six months, the refugee will generally be housed in a collective living facility.[98] He or she might be granted the right to an apartment depending on public interest and personal reasons like family reunification.[99] The decision is in the discretion of the local government agency.
>After an application for asylum has been approved and if the refugee is not able to secure his or her own means of subsistence, the government authority may restrict his or her residence permit to a specific German state and municipality.

So refugee is for 6 years in Germany to become a citizen, if he can't find his own apartment, he can claim family reunification, if he still can't find apartment he can be give apartment by local government and his stay in refugee center is also counted in those 6 years.
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>>134522237

Still I think it'd be better to just kill them at sea. Feed the sharks. Two birds one boomerang.
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>>134523797
Settings.
Legacy capcha.
Do this and cut the crap from replies
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refugges are illegal immigrants

deport them all
charge gulf states adn EU
set up safe zoen over there or in africa
stop spending my money on bringing sangerous usless ilelgal aliens to my shores
burn obama alive with clintons for thier crimes
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>>134524079

t. Achmed Mohamad Raheed


Your days are numbered
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>>134524079
Refugees are illegal migrants, but once they find any German apartment they become legal migrants.
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>>134522701
What you guys need to do is get out of the Eurozone.

ASAP.


>>134522301
This. The guy's too young. He wants POWER and LOTS of it for as long as possible.
>>134522228
They don't want to have anything to do with the SPO.

Hell they'll run a minority government with the FPO if they need to.

Personally I hope we'll get Neos - OVP - FPO.

Neos are cucks on trade but anti-(((welfare))) which a net positive for high-IQ people.
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>>134523788
Ah, you are the leftypol fag. Never mind
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The austrian ministry is making NO fucking sense at all.
We can't keep 180000 rapefugees on Lampedusa, which has less than 15000 residents. We can't keep even 18000 on such a tiny Island, it would be a nightmare for the islanders.
Especially since most invaders are brought in either by NGOs or directly by EU ships, including german ones. Since it is the EU (that is, Merkel) that wants to import immigrants, let THEM have all those rapefugees.

The only one making sense is Orban of Hungary, who suggested us (like all our right wing asks) TO CLOSE OUR FUCKING PORTS to both types of foreign ships.
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>>134524856
send em back
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>>134523284
>Can the Greeks come too if they want?

I'd trade Greeks for Bulgarians any day t b h.
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>>134520865
This works except instead of letting the good ones come, you just leave them all there until they decide to fuck off back home.
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>>134522104
Had a discussion with an Italian about the practicality of this here if you're interested - >>134521816
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>>134525290
Despite Campbell being an utter faggot that image still makes me proud.

I'm on holidays btw.
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The idea is right but this proposal can't be done on Lampedusa island which is only 20,2 km2 large.
The only realistic choice is to open the camps directly in Lybia, for (((unknown reasons))) not a single refugee has ever arrived in Malta, much bigger island than tiny Lampedusa.
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>>134525290
"Good ones"?
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>>134521112
They fucking love it!
Pinacoladas on a tropical beach while glamping.
You must be another kiwi jealous of our booming beach tourism industry
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>>134526176
You guys have almost got a good birth rate, I would go and help out but the aussie accent is annoying to me. We speak like we write here and it's much calmer and easier to understand. I guess I'll just impregnate and leave
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>>134526307
I'm sure you'll find many lovely young srilankan girls desperate to let you fuck them on Manus island.

Fun fact: every single boatcunt we sent to Cambodia for processing went home.

EVERY
SINGLE
ONE

Make of that what you will.
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Yet he lets chinks buy all the land

Australians are cucked
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>>134526473
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They won't come if there's no chance of making money. Most of them exchange the names of their families for credit and they have to pay the debt within a year or their families get murked. Only nogs would sell out their mother because they didn't have to think about it for 11 months...
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>>134526549
>he doesn't understand statute can change.

Our problem is our politicians are crooked liars. If the parties actually feel the surge of nationalism growing then no foreign ownership is easy to apply. Especially now as it turns out all the Green Leftie politicians have been outed foreign invaders anyway
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>>134520865
Except it doesn't. How many migrants use legal ferries ffs.
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>>134526746
>Especially now as it turns out all the Green Leftie politicians have been outed foreign invaders anyway
that still makes me kek
how did they think that's okay?
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>>134526974
Migrant =/= refugee
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>>134526996
Satan enters their minds.
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>>134526996
They're fifth column they and their Jew lawyers advisors didn't give a fuck
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>>134523726
>One shark at least is e enough to stop 1000 Africans making for the mainland
if it is a hungry shark...

Ok, the truth is that on an Italian island, Italy can determine who uses a boat to the mainland. E.g. Lampedus is 300 km or more away from the Italian mainland. Nobody can make it there without a ferry, regardless of sharks.

There are 5,000 residents on Lampedusa. I say evacuate them and put all the new migrants on Lampedusa. The island can hold up to 100,000 migrants. But once the solution is in place, no migrant wants to come anyway, so it will only be a few thousand migrants on the island anyway.
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Election 2013 where a boat turnback policy was enforced and boats who weren't intercepted had their occupants imprisoned on a foreign island (Manus Island, Nauru and PNG) indefinitely. We gave them a safe area to live in, an immigration detention centre, and they were free to leave at any time (back to their home country or another country willing to take them).

As you can see, the number of refo scum stopped.
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>>134527067
lol wtf your pic related.
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>>134520865
Thank god Austria is trying to save us all for the 3rd time.
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>>134520865
>this guy is literally Hitler
>/pol/ endorses this
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>>134523982
I linked the German official site. It has all the information required. Put it through Google translate. Germany had a million "refugees" coming in the 1990s and even another million from 2000 to 2012. And still citizenship awards have dropped like a stone with most awards going to Turks, Kurds and EU citizens. Look it up.
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>>134524856
>We can't keep 180000 rapefugees on Lampedusa, which has less than 15000 residents. We can't keep even 18000 on such a tiny Island
Lampedusa has 20km2. At a population density of a city (10,000 residents per km2) you can keep 200,000 on Lampedusa no problem.

But you forget that once you put the policy of not allowing migrants to the mainland in place, the same thing happens as on Lesbos, Kos and the other Greek islands. The migrant flow drops 98 percent. And you can still deport the illegals from the island and shuttle the few genuine refugees to the mainland.

It is pretty shameful Italy isn't even trying this solution, considering we all know it works in Greece.
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>>134527439
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>>134526974
>Except it doesn't. How many migrants use legal ferries
That is the problem, 100 percent. There hasn't been an illegal making it to the Italian mainland on an illegal boat since 2013. Not even kidding. They are all shipped on ferries, Italian coastguard and Navy boats and NGO boats to the mainland. If you stop this practice and get them on Italian islands instead, the whole crisis is over in 2 months just as in Greece. The flow of migrants will slow to a trickle, maybe a few hundred per month down from 20,000 per month right now.
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>>134522104
Yeah and who pay the EU?
Italy,Germany and France
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Too little too late.Austria is kill,Wien is full of niggers,even small towns have rapefugees.
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>>134521329
yes it is. their asylum application should be processed there and then they'd get boats to go back to their shithole
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>>134521257
this
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>>134522104
>Italy just fucking should do the same
You seem to forget the island are inhabithed. And the islanders like the immigrants less than you do, and don't want any more of them.
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>>134522719

Never. Austrians are cucks. The same guy was virtue signallying and telling how refugees are welcome in Austria thrrough the entirety of 2015-16 when we had the fence up within two months. He also called us fascists over that too.
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>>134528258
if by niggers you mean Hungarians and Poles, then yes. for some reason these le based nationalities love moving to Austria
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>>134523063
You can unilaterally opt out of international or EU agreements. Countries do it all the time, even holy Germany.
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>>134520865
that is the greatest idea i have ever heard. why dont you just dump them in the sea? i mean come on itally its so obvious. "keep them off mainland" *wink *wink *nudge *nudge
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>>134520865
I can remember Kurz saying Austria is an immigration country on tv. So everybody who trusts this guy is a fucking moron. After the election the ÖVP will do exactly nothing different. They wont do anything against Islam, multiculuralism and "diversity".

pic related is the new chairmen of the ÖVP students' fraternity.
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>>134528388
>You seem to forget the island are inhabithed. And the islanders like the immigrants less than you do, and don't want any more of them.
The Greek islands are also inhabited. Who cares? We are talking hundreds of billions in costs if you keep shuttling them to the mainland vs. keeping them on the islands. Greece does it and it works. Do you want an endless crisis or a solution.
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>>134527308
>I say evacuate them and put all the new migrants on Lampedusa
You're overlooking one obvious fact. Whatever government tries to do this, WILL lose the next elections.
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>>134523485
> majorca
> italy
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>>134528682
Kurz wants to be the next Dollfuss... but without getting killed. So he will do what the right wingers want. Staendestaat when?
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>>134528399

>butthurt austrian not even posting with his own flag tries to deny al-viyennah is essentially a muslim colony now

Dont call a Kartoffel an Erdapfel either, hansi.
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>>134528814
Kurz removed the picture of Dollfuß which was hanging in the ÖVP headquarters only a few days ago. So either he wants his picture up there or he is a fucking cuck.
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The reason Italy does not shut down the refugee stream is because its government does not really want to.
If a government does not want illegal immigration, it stops it, just like Australia or Hungary or Israel have done.
The lefty Italian government wants immigration to happen, but they also want to get reelected (I know, Italian government has been appointed), so they pretend to be against immigration, but don't do really do anything against it except rhetoric.

Shut down the ports for the NGOs, make them sail around Europe till Hamburg, if you have to.
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>>134520865
We still would need to give them gibs and that's a shitty solution as those islands, such as Lampedusa, have Italian inhabitants and are already overcrowded with niggers. What should we do, let them die in anarchy by niggers?
Also, next thing we'd see is NGOs ferrying them to the mainland.
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>>134529434
Wouldn't Bruxelles fuck us in the ass if we shut down sandniggers immigration?
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>>134529835

did they do anything to Hungary whatsoever? no, the EU is a paper tiger and it will never do anything of value
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>>134529434

As far as I know, they tried to do just that (by sending them back to Libya), and then Brussels fined them €15.000 Euros per declined migrant.
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>>134529932

Found it.

http://www.dw.com/en/court-fines-italy-for-deporting-migrants-to-libya/a-15761455
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>>134529835
Just like they did with Hungary, Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe?
There is a nice idiom: people who want something to happen find a way. People who don't want something to happen find reasons.
Your government, (and the German one as well) fall into the second category, or they would call the ridiculous bluff of Brussels.
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>>134520865
Basically what Australia's illegal immigration policy has been for the past decade or two.
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>>134530142
>the EU do nothing to hungary
>but to italy that its like 25% of their net income they fine
Oh god when we quit
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>>134530142
If the Italian government was serious about ending mass-immigration, they would team up with Eastern Europe and GB and leave the ECHR, it is that simple.
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Wait, so i can get neetbux as long as i love on a specific island?
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>>134530453
Our goverment suck total dick
We didn't even elect it
At this point we have to wait until 2018 or an armed revolution
>70% of italy is pro a militar coup
RITORNEREMO
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>>134530531
Do this and hang the EU appointed traitors.
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>>134530531
Should northern Italy be its own country?
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Austria to Italy: Fuck Off We're Full
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>>134528728
send them back
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>>134530674
I wish that the army took control
In the end most of the army is fascist so its ok
>>134530731
No Italy should be one and its indivisible
For the south question we need a new iron prefect not separatism
In the 1930 the mafia was destroyed by the fascist
When the American invaded in 1943 they put the mafia back in control in exchange for help in the invasion
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>>134530368

Cause they know they can get away with it.

Hungary:
>well entrenched right with party rules without any possible challangers
>been on the same track for seven years by now
>local fifth column leftists are systematically getting starved out and destroyed, shutting down CEU, forcing NGOs to disclose their funding etc.
>always been bellingerent and stubborn aganist the EU but Orbán knows how to maneuver in brussels
>people completely reject ANY migration and immunized to white guilt
>EU has no leverage and they are reduced to weak bluffing
>historic experiences about defending europe from mudslimes for centuries and getting stabbed in the back

Italy:
>politics are a permament clusterfuc, literally ungovernable
>full of leftists, NGO fleets carry in migrants with impunity
>has more to lose and afraid to go aganist the EU
>white guilt actually managed to metastatize
>some retards actually accept migration and bargain quotas
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>>134531088
You are right we Italian should grow more ball in politic
Its ironic since we used to be really good diplomatic with our ironic diplomacy
But i am happy that Hungarian are saving themself
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>>134527714
>shuttle the few genuine refugees to the mainland.
>genuine
nope we owe them nothing. Denmark stopped taking in UN refugees because we received too many overall. Genuine or not matters not.
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>>134520865
Why are Italians such nigger lovers?
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>>134528728
>leave your countrymen with the niggers and shitskins
I hate traitor cunts like you.
>Do you want an endless crisis or a solution
what you suggested is not a acceptable solution. Abandoning international conventions are and then just putting a stop to all this "asylum" nonsense.
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>>134525290
gay jelly bean camo
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>>134522237
Yeah we stop a few thousand people and lock them up at our expense. Meanwhile we import a few hundred thousand Chinese, Indians, Arabs and Africans legally every year. Don't be fooled, Austalia is going the same way as every other white country.
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>>134530142
>allowing some foreign court fine your people
yeah utter ridicules.
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>>134531378
Its in their blood
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>>134521785
>"There is always someone screaming, always fights," said Abdulaziz

Sounds like something we want more of in our communities.
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>>134531702
Its easy to cherrypick
I can post fascist italian qt too
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Hire the Blue Marlin heavy lifting vessel for refugee transport.
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>>134532083
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>>134532103
what is the purpose of such a boat?
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>>134532255
to move bridges
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>>134531602
what is the WTO and several other entities that countries allow to rule over them?
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>be Pizzatown
>Germany says the EU has an invaluable number for black cock, massive market demand for refugees
>eagerly glug down the koolaid, start importing vast cargoes of shiftless, useless blacks like a good little goy
>when the burden of storing and maintaining these blacks starts getting too much start asking your neighbours "eyyyy, fellow EU states, I have a lotta de black people, who a-wantsa some eh? Mamma mia"
>cricket sounds pierced by an occasional "fuck off mate"

ExIt when desu
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>>134532496
ASAP i hope
RITORNEREMO I SWEAR TO GOD
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>>134532461
besides being complete horseshit and a remnant from our past?
WTO is a basically a club where you leave your dignity and sovereignty at the door and then apply lube to your ass. I will never support international cooperation that is not based on agreements/accords.
people are getting starting to turn this new world order shit their backs and here in Denmark nearly half of our parliament want to abandon the human rights acts because they interfere with how Danes want to govern and be governed.

if you like to be ruled by undemocratic entities that serve that own personal ends. Well then be my guest but dont give me lip because I do not.
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>>134532926
well, duh

my post was to merely point out that the ECHR is merely one of many international dispute settlement entities that countries adhere to.

Also, who else would you fucking go to in an international dispute? You obviously can't have a national court rule, since one party will always object.


Also, if I'd be deported to some third-party nation, I'd sue the fuck out of everyone.
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>>134532288
To seem like a ship you can board and in the middle of the sea you flood the tanks to wash away everything on deck.

err, ... well, you get the idea
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>>134533367
>Also, who else would you fucking go to in an international dispute?
Diplomacy between the nations that are in dispute. The fact that we have forgotten how to act and now need a daddy institutions to tell us: "did you bring enough for everyone" is a serious problem.

>Also, if I'd be deported to some third-party nation, I'd sue the fuck out of everyone
I never blamed the migrants from coming here or the people who use the law to their advantage. I just hate the system that allows this shit and think the law is wrong.
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>>134533804
>Diplomacy between the nations that are in dispute.

Mhm. Sure.
So in an Airbus vs Boeing dispute, how do you reckon the respective governments and diplomats would come to an agreement? No government would agree to something that is to the detriment of their respective billion-dollar company.
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Lampedusa is way smaller than Malta. They'll end up overrun with niggers in a couple of days.
Ah, Austrian faggots and their election propaganda (is at least a right wing dude?)
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>>134534293
Kurz is an opportunistic capitalist - he swings wherever there's an advantage. His only ethos is about getting the best deal for himself.
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>>134534093
well that is a stalemate and usually before all this cuck shit it was always solved the same way. Ask a third party nation to be a mediator and judge. During the danish / German wars of the mid 1800s both the Germans and the Danes agree to let the bongs be the mediator and judge during the peace talks.
The benefit of this systems is that it can reflect the relationships between the nations much better than some stale international minded entity.
also Airbus vs Boeing sounds like a private matter. I could be wrong but I do not know anything about it.
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>>134534154
Brilliant
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>>134534293
>Lampedusa is way smaller than Malta. They'll end up overrun with niggers in a couple of days.

It works on the Greek islands, doesn't it?

Also, if Italy really wanted to stop the flood of migrants, there is Sardinia. And don't give me that crap about "uh uh, Sardinia got tourists and people there" - Lesbos, Kos, Chios, etc. also got people and tourists.

Again, once you implement the island solution NOBODY will be coming any more and you can then do deportations much more efficiently because it isn't 250,000 who come per year but 10,000. The only reason, yes THE ONLY REASON, illegals are still coming via the Med to Italy is because they want cash. There is no cash on islands.
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>>134531524
>Meanwhile we import a few hundred thousand Chinese, Indians, Arabs and Africans legally every year.
You might do that, but they are not illegals who are illiterates, are they?

Who gives a shit if some rich Chinese dude or Indian doctor comes to your country. Yes, it ain't good over time, but it is not the disaster which is happening in Europe. We literally import people who have not seen a school from the inside in their life. There is no way they could ever get a job in Europe, not in 5, 10 or 100 yrs.
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>>134530142
>i
>2009 deportations to Libya
>2009 when there was a civil war
>had to pay 15,000 euros per case
>there were 3 cases
>it is literally the ECHR which fined them

Come on, nobody cares about the ECHR or the 15,000 euros. Italy has the ability to end this migrant crisis right now, but they won't because their government is socialist. FACT.
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He is ok but I hope he turns out lower than the FPÖ because I can't trust the party that let in all these subhumans
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>>134529835
>Wouldn't Bruxelles fuck us in the ass if we shut down sandniggers immigration?
No, and you know it. Hungary, Poland, Czechia even Greece constantly disregard Brussels. For years really. Nothing happens. Greece has been ruled "unsafe" for refugees for 7 years in a row now. Brussels has told Greece for over 2 decades to comply with European standards for illegals - do you really think they give two flying fucks what the EU says?

The Italian government just uses the EU as a convenient scapegoat, so they do not have to get in trouble with voters on islands. That is all.
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>>134534485
>Airbus vs Boeing sounds like a private matter

private matter? what?
when one party accuses the other of breaking whatever law or rule, what does being it a 'private matter' have to do with anything?
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>>134534596
There's no way we will fuck up Sardinia by turning it into a nigger deposit. Build camps in Libya
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>>134522237
Yeah but we still import 300k into the country each year... You really notice it too with our small population. Especially where i am in Melbourne.
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>>134529748
>We still would need to give them gibs
No, you do not. Asylum seekers only need to be handed a place to sleep, food and healthcare. Not a single euro has to be handed to them.

Once they actually receive true asylum, you need to give them whatever gibs Italian gibsmee people get. But not before. 95% of the asylum seekers do not get true asylum in Italy.

>>134529748
>Lampedusa, have Italian inhabitants and are already overcrowded with niggers.

5,000 people on Lampedusa. 500 million Europeans should suffer so 5,000 fuckers on Lampedusa have a comfy life? You do know that each illegal which arrives in Italy costs between 150,000 and 400,000 euros, right? You could build every single person on Lampedusa a villa in Northern italy and it would still be 1000 times cheaper than the never ending migrant crisis.
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>>134535005
as I said I did not know any details about the case. What was the dispute about? One company accusing the other for breaking international laws / agreements?
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>>134528766
>> majorca
>> italy
>Sharks in the Med can only swim in Spanish waters

Ok, mate.
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>>134522719
I'm into this desu
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>>134535050
>There's no way we will fuck up Sardinia by turning it into a nigger deposit. Build camps in Libya

Libya doesn't want camps. You can build camps in Sardinia and reduce the number of illegals from 250,000 per year to 10,000 per year just as in Greece. Sardinia would hardly even notice them. Also, if Italy gets its act together, it could then constantly deport those who are rejected (90%). So Sardinia would have net 1,000 illegals per year. Hardly anything noticeable.
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>>134521257
This is not a realistic scenario. What the australian foreign minister proposed is a brilliant idea.
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>>134524009
should make a game out of it. let them come through the sea, if they make it past the sharks then funnel them towards the rivers towards the crox. If they make it past them then make them walk through the bush with the snakes.
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>>134525099
dont forget BaWü
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>>134534293
no it's a filthy opportunist, can't belive how retard and oblivious some of my countryman are.
But don't worry if things get worst and he can't deliver there will be blood and/or far right extremists (not talking about FPÖ) popping up everywhere (maybe not in cucked vienna).
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>>134535319
Italy surely has smaller islands.
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>>134522104
isn't that what sicily is anyway -- a place to keep people you dont want in europe
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>>134534713
Most of the chinese and indians are educated but the niggers are of course just as savage as any other nigger..
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>>134535591
>isn't that what sicily is anyway -- a place to keep people you dont want in europe

No, Burger, as Patton rightly noticed, Sicily is the door to Germany. Very unfortunately really. Sicily is just a km or so from the Italian mainland. Sardinia is several hundred miles away from the mainland. In Sicily you can just take a kanu or even swim to the mainland, in Sardinia you are trapped.
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>>134522543
>lets help them in africa
He wants ro build "camps" in africa to send them back to
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>>134535503
This
the ConOps to get rid of OVP and SPO leaders are on the table. If it becomes a Great coalition or Kurz with the FPO doesn't deliver in the first 2 weeks, Austria will have a re-election.
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>>134520865
So ÖVP and FPÖ goverment again in the Autumn?
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Or just send them here.

None should be in austria or Italy
Send them all to germany
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>>134536683
Maybe. Great coalition is possible, but that would bring new Gladio back in the Game
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>>134537200
>great coalition after having new elections that resulted from breaking up a goverment of a great coalition
its like whats the point?
even SPÖ has lifted their "ban" on governing with FPÖ
I guess its just to bad that the Kurzmeister has bascially put FPÖ down the the third place again
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>>134537200
>Maybe. Great coalition is possible, but that would bring new Gladio back in the Game
There is no way the OVP goes into a coalition again with the SPO, especially if the OVP wins the election. That is pure election suicide in the next years.
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>>134537316
If SP/VP is possible, they will go into a coalition. There are to many common interests when it comes to redistributing wealth to the Freundl economy to keep FP out.
>>134537384
Are you 16? The whole spin of who will go into a coalition with the FPO is a strategy to get undecided voters to vote for the centre party with which they would like the FPO see in a coalition.
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>>134537614
>Are you 16? The whole spin of who will go into a coalition with the FPO is a strategy to get undecided voters to vote for the centre party with which they would like the FPO see in a coalition.

Sorry, but I know Austrian politics... as I am Austrian.

I voted FPO ever since 1999 and I tell you, there is no way whatsoever that the OVP goes into another coalition with the SPO. Just no way. They have nothing in common and in the last 8yrs they couldn't find common ground anywhere.
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>>134537316
polls are all over the place with FPÖ, some show them at 22-23% others show them at 27%-28%. I certainly believe that Kurz stole some votes from them, but now way in hell do I buy a +30% SPÖ, they will have a hard time to get beyond 25% at this point
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>>134537773
You will see when the results come out and the swing voter analysis shows former non voters have chosen SP/VP, mostly with the reason they would have liked an x/FP coalition. Both parties have too much dirt on their ass from the last eight years, which would come out if one goes under. Nevertheless, it comes out and as I wrote above, if it becomes a Great coalition, Austria will have new elections some months later. The leaks are prepared, and would behead both parties and lead to an economic melt down in Austria
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>>134537873
>polls are all over the place with FPÖ
ive just seen the polls posted on the english wikipedia so thats where i got my information from friend
wouldnt suprise me, in Sweden our nationalist party the Sweden Democrats have everything from 18% to 24% in the diffrent polls, but there have been a bigger diffrence
In late 2015 it was everything between 16% and 28%
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>>134528758
Get them camps outside of the cities, and ship military / national guard or somesuch there for protection.
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>>134538107
>The leaks are prepared, and would behead both parties and lead to an economic melt down in Austria
very intriguing, tell me more
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>>134537873
Who cares what the polls say? I will vote FPO and be done with it. No questions asked.

My guess is it will be around 30% for Kurz, around 28% for the FPO and around 26% for the SPO, with Greens crashing to 6%, Pilz not in the parliament and NEOS barely getting 4-5%.
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>>134527439
It seems that you're quite new, /pol/ literally endorses Hitler.
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>>134538377
I will do the same, I also think your prediction of the results seems realistic, although I hope Pilz rapes the Greens so hard they won't get into Parliament at all
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>>134538329
Just a family member of one off the old guard. I have no details, but as far as I know, there are numbers that are falsified for reasons that some too big too fail companies, including banks, would crash. And as Austrian you know what this means.
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>>134520865
When will they get their heads out of their asses and stop the "charities" that are shipping them to Europe in the first place?
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>>134528682
This. He's an actual populist who just panders to peoples believes to do the exact opposite once he's elected. And you can bet your fucking ass its gonna be red black again.
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>>134520865
Yeah haha who would want to be fed, clothed, and housed on a Mediterranean island for free.
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>>134538852
If they don't get cash-gibs? No-one.
You need to realize, that they payed several hundreds of bucks for this trip, if not thousands. They NEED gibs, to make even. Deny them gibs, and they will stop coming, those not already infecting a host country in earnest, also will scramble back - they got denbts to pay.
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>>134538852
>Yeah haha who would want to be fed, clothed, and housed on a Mediterranean island for free.
Apparently no one.

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At first they were able to travel freely on to wealthier countries in northern and western Europe, but tens of thousands were stranded last year when the European Union began reintroducing border controls. Those who arrived before March 20, 2016, were allowed to move on to mainland Greece to seek relocation in an E.U. country. Those who arrived after are stuck on the islands. They can apply for asylum, or protection from being sent back but many are supposed to be sent back to Turkey. In practice, that’s not really happening.

Jill Biden, wife of former U.S. vice president Joe Biden, visited refugees in Khíos earlier this month as part of work by the aid organization Save the Children. She traveled with Nitzia Logothetis, a therapist and aid organizer, who said she was horrified by the conditions she saw.

“There were over 100 unaccompanied minors on the island, between the ages of 8 and 17, and over 1,300 refugees in total,” Logothetis told a conference in Athens, the Greek capital, after returning from the visit.

“I saw parents, children, and people who looked so hopeless,” she said. “Some of the children are so stressed out. ... The longer they stay, the more severe their symptoms.”
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>>134529932
Ignore the fine. How many men does the EU army have?
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>>134538523
Give it to me straight, are we talking about a Hypo Alpe Adria size meltdown or something even bigger?
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What the fuck is the Somali taking refuge from?
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>>134537044
An accelerationist, are you?
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>>134540039
>What the fuck is the Somali taking refuge from?
Somalia is a fucked up country. Always has been. Of course, the moment he steps out of Somalia and into a quiet, peaceful neighboring country, he stops having the right to flee the beautiful beachfront of Mogadishu.
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>>134520865

>Germany telling others how to manage migrants

Or you can just hire free people and tell them to sink the boats while also blaring messages and throwing leaflets at the shorelines telling them that any migrants will be countered by harsh actions involving the sinking of all unregistered naval vessels.
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>>134539983
>Give it to me straight, are we talking about a Hypo Alpe Adria size meltdown or something even bigger?
I heard, the Hypo shit only cost about 9 billion in taxmoney. Acceptable losses given the stakes in Hypo (which was essentially run like a state bank by the FPO under Haider).
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>>134539983
Bigger, like Raiffeisen and Erste Group being kept alive on lies, and never would actually passed a stress test. It will affect eastern Europe too.
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>>134540121
Accelerating towards what?
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>>134540233
The stakes never should have been as high as they were in the first place. Carinthia has an annual budget of 2 billion, and they had liabilities in the bank that were one order of magnitude larger. I still believe that the eventual nationalization of the bank did more harm than good and that a lot of shady shit went down that night.

>>134540298
If that were to happen, then it could even spark a Europe-wide banking crisis. There's a lot of investment in eastern Europe that everyone would just like to sweep under the carpet. Once the first big banks go bust, the entire region is fucked.
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>>134540828
You understand. And the icing on the cake, it was managed from Vienna by the SP and VP, with the knowledge of Brussels. You think the Grasser investigation stopped for nothing. He knows too much. This will be worse than 1929
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>>134522104
>Look, no solution is perfect
Yes. There is a perfect solution. Say "Fuck off we are full" and send them home irrelevant if they are killed for defecting.

Say "We are not interested in your culture or your crimes"
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>>134541276
>Yes. There is a perfect solution. Say "Fuck off we are full" and send them home

And that is clearly the solution America has applied in the last 40 yrs...

Jesus Christ, get a grip of reality.
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>>134541366
>And that is clearly the solution America has applied in the last 40 yrs...
He never said america was doing better.
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>>134540828
>I still believe that the eventual nationalization of the bank did more harm than good and that a lot of shady shit went down that night.

Wrong. Letting the bank go bust, would have been a tremendous problem for Carinthia and thus Austria. Carinthia would be bankrupt, so what then? Endless lawsuits of German banks trying to seize Carinthian lakes and schools and roads. Fuck that.

9 billion? You do know how much Austria is paying for the 200,000 "refugees" and asylum seekers per year? Yes, including healthcare, jobs training and German lessons etc., we are talking 25,000 per person or 5 billion per year.
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There was an interview with an Italian mayor about the Identitarian boat mission.
It was Enzo Bianco of Catania.
He literally said that his city was open and welcoming to refugees.
http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/anti-fluechtlings-aktion-identitaere-bewegung-will-mit-schiff-ins-mittelmeer-a-1159037.html

I stand with my point, mass-immigration is happening because our politicians want it to happen. When politicians of the mainstream say anti-migrant rhetoric, they are lying to get reelected.
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>>134520865
Nope.

I refuse to let migrants shit up the white mans nice clean mediterranean islands.

They should be held in Libya until such a time as we are ready to retake the lands the Muslims stole from us in Africa
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>>134541538
>9 Billion in Hypo
>5 Billion for illegals
Add another possible 80 Billion to save the big banks, which will not pass if there isn't a great coalition. And if there is, it will rain leaks, taking the last bit of trust out of the system, destroying the welfare system and make it impossible for banks to give out loans, which will cripple the economy. I suggest to stock up on arms, ammo and metals
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>>134541806
>They should be held in Libya

Ok, lad.

>Be British, bomb Libya and Gaddafi to hell.
>Libya ends up shithole
>"Oh no, Libya is a shithole, Italy take all those negroes from Sudan and Guinea, we will send NGOs as well to help"

Ok then, mate. Nobody is going to set up camps in Libya. It is not sustainable. Never will. The island internment solution works great in Greece. Really great. There is no reason whatsoever to not implement the same solution in Italy.
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>>134520865
Didn't the newly elected president of Austria suggest that women should be forced to wear headscarfs to fight islmaphobia?
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>>134541941
>Add another possible 80 Billion to save the big banks
Austria has already run out of banks, mate. 3 banks have failed and got nationalized, one bank was sold off to the Italians long ago and the other two remaining banks in Austria are half-state run already. Nothing left in terms of banks.
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>>134542065
>Didn't the newly elected president of Austria suggest that women should be forced to wear headscarfs to fight islmaphobia?

Yes, but the president in Austria is like the Queen in the UK. No power. He is just a handshaker. Literally, just a handshaker.

The power in Austria lies in the Chancellor - and in October Kurz (depicted in the OP) will be just that.
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>>134542065
The guy is an old idiot and basically shut up after the backlash he received for that statement. He's not a factor in Austrian interior politics and never really was.
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>>134523116

Oh... the birth of Slavic League. So much~
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>>134527714
This will never be done here because more niggers coming means more money for the people who takes care of them, there are lots of partecipants in this whole ordeal:
>globalist cartel
>our local mafia
>our politicians (in many cases mafia related)
>catholic church
>authentic useful idiots

That's why Italy wants so badly that other coutries take migrants quota, so that more and more niggers can keep arriving, the system can keep going and the money flowing.
That's how bad things are.
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>>134523116
Lesson from history: keep it Catholic only.
No Bogomils, Serbs, Bulgarians.
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>>134521257
ATLANTIS REQUIRES MORE REFUGEES JOIN ME IN ATLANTIS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC_mV1IpjWA
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>>134527310
You're just clouding the issue with facts
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>>134542075
Buy some shares then
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>>134542339
dude albanians....
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>>134521785
>the Greek island of Lesbos
>lesbos
Holy shit this CANNOT be real. FUKKEN KEK
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>>134535319
>Sardinia would hardly even notice them.
Fuck off. What would you know? Parking lots are full of Africans begging for money and ticket inspectors are harassed by these people.
Last week a bunch of animals from Nigeria surrounded and molested a female ticket inspectors asfter she dared ask them the ticket. Months ago a girl was beaten by another animal on the bus.

We are already noticing the few we have, we don't want more.
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>>134545945
that's where lesbian comes from retard
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>>134534713
Nah we stopped about 20k refugees per year but in return got 200k legal migrants per year.. only roughly a fifth of these are actually skilled at all.

The skill floor in most cases is being able to earn about AU$50k so basically undercutting mid skilled labour, then they bring in their families. There are also regional visas which people get for even occupations like fruit picking.. some cities are still considered regional so 'skilled' migrants are brought in to work at mcdonalds in those cities.
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>>134521329
They can get free food and water at any refugee camp. They are going to Europe because they want European citizenship and benefits
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>>134535733
>In Sicily you can just take a kanu or even swim to the mainland, in Sardinia you are trapped.
And that is why we have prisons with mafiosi from mainland and American bombing our lands in the training ground not caring if people die of cancer.
We have given enough to Italy, we don't need fake refugees fucking up the island even more.
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>>134545945
>He's not familiar with classical Greece

Why even live?
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>>134545945
>american education
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>>134540504
Collapse. Here, the collapse of Germany.
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>>134535646
I don't see any blacks where I live. We get a lot of Brits too though. They need to go back, all of them. All they're doing is pissing people off and nurturing the right wing.

Australia is better than every other western country but that's not to say we're good necessarily.
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>>134521250
yep lik it's not geographic location of Oz or the treacherous seas of that part of the world that would discourage wannabe sailors u stupid fucktard.
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>>134549461
What? We get a lot of boats. We just don't let them in. We ran a whole fucking campaign called "stop the boats"
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