The rich don't deserve their wealth.

>>134519508
The only good form of socialism is national socialism.

t. Has no understanding of economics

>>134519604
I have a very good understanding of economics. I realise for example that inequality is bad for economic growth because you are locking up the vast talents and potential of the underclass by forcing them to slave away for some stupid billionaires.

This is the case in America where people cannot take risks (like getting a better education or starting a business) because failing would leave them destitute without even healthcare.

The Jew might tell you that if you take his Jew gold there will be calamity, but this has never been the case. If anything, the opposite is the case. Jews invented capitalism.

>Wealth should be redistributed with the aim of rough equality of outcomes
Stopped reading there.
Here's the deal faggot, the state needs to exist and must play a role in regulation of buisness and should be the the sole manager of national infrastructure. But that is where their influence should end. Private corporations should do the rest. There should be no state interference in the distribution of wealth, as soon as the state starts to redistribute wealth the productive members of society do less because they are not being paid what they should be. Society would stagnate.

"They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work". Communism In a nut shell.

Nice painting btw.

>>134519508
Do you own a car?

>>134519508
Poor people are poor because they're not determined and/or can't manage their finances. Redistributing wealth would change nothing in the long term, dumbass

>>134520215
Natsoc flag, libertarian post.
Confirmed for faggot.

>>134519508
>A billionaire Jew doesn't work a hundred million times as hard as an honest aryan labourer
but niggers work for half the price and double the effort

>>134519508
>using terms as "billionare jew" and "honest aryan" because that's how you paint the good and bad to /pol/
Nice subliminal tactics commie

>>134519508
It's 'supply and demand', not 'work hard, get rich', nobody gives a shit how much you sweat while breaking stones because everyone can break stones.

>>134519508
>Every dollar Mark Zuckerberg racks up is another dollar unavailable to the masses.
Then buy gold and silver and let him keep his paper fiat,every ounce you get of them is another ounce unavailable to the jews.

>>134520215
Poor people are poor because they're born poor.

>>134520215
>they're not determined and/or can't manage their finances.
Economic collapse can ruin anyone who is in the wrong place at the wrong time, you self-absorbed elitist fuck

>>134519508
'Wealth' is a social construct. With fiat currencies and eminent domain it's impossible to have true wealth.

>>134519508
>the deserving poor
Poor people are stupid filthy scum. They're poor because it's wha5 they deserve.

Fuckin commie.
In a perfect world, communism would work, but this isn't a perfect world and communism doesn't work.

>>134519508
>muh work hard

it's work smart not work hard ya dumb aussie

>>134519508
Deserve has nothing to do with it. Grow up already.

>>134520749
NYPA
fuck off

The stupidity in this post is amazing. Sorry snowflake but life is NOT fair. You get what you earn or if you are really lucky what you get a piece of what your parents or grandparents earned.

What you don't get to do is steal from what others earned.

>>134520551
Next your gnna say the rich are rich because they deserve it..look i went to a fucking elitist school,my class mates were all the offspring of ministers,goverment officials and the owners of big companies,I can guarantee you most of them were retarded and worried by retarded things,a los i can guarantee you most of them will keep being rich,and since they have the conexions the will be in charge of the goverment or becme puppets ti the ones in charge while having some middle class inteligent middle class man breaking his ass at work for them so they can keep being rich.
someone getting rich is like the lotto it's there so you can see it happen but it's not happening so easily.

>>134520430
Simple and elegant.
Being raised in poverty affects you in a million little ways for life, and you miss out on a million opprotunities that wealthy kids have.
It's easy to judge people from an ivory tower.

>>134519508
>equality
Stopped reading there.
In order for a society to operate properly you need to have a class based system.
Equality has to be the most retarded concept I have heard of in my entire life.
You are a cog in the machine, get the fuck over it.

A lot of people try to cheat the tax system.

Poor, working class, business class, 1% everyone - everyone tries to pay less tax.

It's a fucking joke, taxes help to make the society around you good but people just seem to love getting one over on the government even though 99.9% of those people rely on all the fruits of society but would be worthless but for the society.

With civic engagement around 20% of course the system will be manipulated by those who care to learn enough about it to exploit it so it makes sense that multinationals get huge tax breaks. But there is also the masses of ignorant people who think that taxation should be on a limit approaching zero trajectory but amenities and everything should keep getting better and these idiots will vote this way.

I can't take it seriously anymore, I am learning about how to financially secure my future in a capitalist society and if it changes in the future then I will have to adapt to that. It's really fucking depressing that it seems like everyday that civic engagement figure drops a fraction yet more people are screaming about how shit things are but can't be fucked enough to read a bit or learn about these important issues so they cede their power to whoever looks like the nicest, most moral person in their eyes and rarely hold them accountable for massive fuck ups they make on a continuous basis.

I say raise the multi-national tax rates, resources from mining need a tax applied because once we mine and ship literally part of our country somewhere else it's not ever coming back and that public cost should be accounted for, stop the bullshit with the energy sector in regards to coal vs wind/solar (the economics behind wind/solar are getting better by the year at a rate above previous predictions), and also close some of the tax loopholes used by families and individuals to defraud the tax system while increasing funding to the ATO to perform audits on people with bullshit like uniform deductions.

>>134519508
Redistribute money to make people rich?!
Only a bigot would think rich people have to have money, there's rich people without money too.
Educate yourself, bigot!

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>>134519508
>Wealth should be redistributed with the aim of rough equality of outcomes
stopped reading there
fuck off commie

>>134519508
What are you a commie?

>>134519508
You go down a rabbit hole when you use spooky words like "deserve." You're opening yourself up by playing on the liberals' turf. Now all sorts of moralistic hand-wringing and axiomatic "truths" are fair game.

It makes so much more sense to explain to people why it's in their material interests to oppose capitalism.

>>134519599
>patriotically correct

This meme needs to die.

How the fuck is a rich person entitled to the money produced by 2,000 laborers?

Noone's skills are worth the the labor produced by 2,000 people.

Literally how is one guy worth more than the labor produced by 10,000+ people?

>>134519604
Economics is largely contrived. There are no laws of economics in way there are with mathematics. There are no economic proofs or truly scientific macroeconomic studies (how can one designate a control group the size of a country?)

It's largely a self-perpetuating front for liberal ideology.

>>134519508
OP one last final thought, if you are going to make a claim at least have the fucking balls to argue your point. You made two posts and bailed on your thread. I have more respect for commies which defend their fucked ideas.

All social democracies has this and it sucks.

Ali it will collapse. Look at Europe.

Unregulated capitalism only allows for a minority of people to have control over a majority.

Raising the tax brackets and creating a hefty inheritance tax keeps these thieves from being able to control democracy.

Okay yeah that's fine and all

But only if we get to be ethnonationalists too

>>134521516
Because in a capitalist society the ability to amass capital is the main thing.

>>134521813
Over regulated socialism has the same effect.

>>134521813
>inheritance tax

I love the idea of a 100% inheritance tax but I have reservations that it couldn't be subverted.

>>134521629
Yes there are you demented gommie scum the more metric tons of steel you produce the better the economy is.PERIOD.

ask mao or stalink for more proof

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>>134521832
Take Trump for example. Do you not think in the Baby Boomer generation that there were people who if given the circumstances of his birth would've been able to replicate or even do better in life?

Instead those same people are forced to a life of being told that health care is a privilege while having to break rocks for 30k a year. While people with better circumstances are able to sip martinis and reap the labor of that person while getting filthy rich.

>>134521900
>100% inheritance tax

You what mate?
What is the point in having children if you can't leave anything for them. All capital gained by your parents has already been taxed. Why should it be taxed again?

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>>134522013
I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not. I legitimately have autism and have a hard time with this.

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>>134522040

You create an inheritance tax that drains the capitalist of the wealth over the course of 3-4 generations.

This helps insure that people like the Rotchilds or Soros can only really take care of immediate family before the wealth is diluted by the end of a century.

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>>134519809
Ah of fucking course the Aussie tries to comment on American economics. I took a risk and got a great reward faggot. The problem is that people are too scared of failure to do shit, which isn't good for humanity as a whole. Fuck off with your bullshit.

>>134521419
Lol comunist retard go kill yourself with your outdated jewish failed ideology thats only good at killing its goy people

>>134522222
Communism confirmed dead

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>>134522215

Deserve's got nothing to do with it.
Apples don't get evenly shared in life. If you think they don't deserve it, take it. But be prepared to carry the consequences, whatever they might be.

>>134522198
People with wealth have an easier time making and keeping their wealth than those without. Taxing inheritance only hurts those at the bottom of the food chain.

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>>134522274
More alive than ever, unfortunately.

Modern leftists are basically commies

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>>134522222
CHECKED

>>134519508
Wealth gets redistributed, poorfags spend it on nonsense and are still poor, who do rob next?

it's really an issue of whether people deserve to have ALL the money. not if they deserve to be wealthy

>>134522304

Lol the inheritance tax would work like marginalized tax brackets.

The tax would be adjusted on assets.

For example a small inheritance of 100,000 per say would be taxed at like 5 percent vs inheritance of 100,000 million we would tax at 40 percent +

>>134522218
>Ah of fucking course the Aussie
I hereby bestow upon him the privilege of commenting on American economics and social policy.
As you see, because of my flag I myself an quite qualified on the topic of all America, incliding you, amd I feel confident to assert that you are a faggot.
pretentious cunt.

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>>134522218
fucking aussies

>>134521516
Because that is the nature of capital. A kid born rich can literally just live off rent, interest, dividends, etc. for the rest of his life.

>>134522164
The ussr and china's understanding of economy was tenuous at best they knew steel was a measure of the economic development of a country so they simply aimed to outproduce the west in steel thus the chinese great leap forwards when mao ordered all the peasants to melt down their tools and cooking pots so as to produce more backyard steel,using the masses to out produce the west and the soviets...they produced many tons of useless pig iron and without tools they starved later.
Don't worry I saw flag

>>134522445
The faggot wanted 100% inheritance tax.
>>134521900
I have an issue with paying tax twice. Not with paying tax. And 100% tax on anything is full retard.

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>>134519508

You are bad, you should feel bad, you probably do and just want the whole world to suck just so you can justify how awful you are.

>>134522457
>Ignores the evidence, that being an actual experience on why this is wrong
>Pretending that economic structures of countries are somewhat similar, and that everyone knows about how American economics works
>Pretending Aussie who attempts to legitimize communism could even speak fluently to begin with
>Assuming that the basic premise of this statement was that he was an Aussie and not just flat out retarded

You got a long way to go. You are probably the victim of our education system, so do not feel bad fellow burger. Maybe one day you can dig yourself out of that hole and to something more respectable.

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Yeah lets just all be cucked and allow a small percentage of people to produce nothing but have absolute control over democracy while sipping martinis on the back of a guy of equal IQ breaking rocks fighting for healthcare.

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>>134522542
Get over it cunt, you just want some Aussie sausage sizzle in your man buns

>>134522601

ffs mate, can't I just write down 100% inheritance tax on an internet message board on a Saturday night without getting my head bitten of mate? Fuck me.

>>134519508

fuck off retard, if the people with the intellect to manage the logistics of a P_L_A_N_E_T wide infrastructure get their pay cut then guess what they don't put in as much effort and you can't get on the internet anymore or get food delivered either, you should be praising the emu gods or whoever you shitposters pray to that you don't live in your autistic utopia where you'd be starving to death because that's not how real life works, but no your life is so hard being a poor person in a first world country where theres so much excess wealth the state gives you money for free for being useless

Raise the inheritance tax to marginalized tax brackets.


Don't allow families like Soros and the Rothchilds to maintain their wealth.

>>134522705
... you have no argument.
Did you even read my post?

>>134522218
>It worked for me therefore I'm the norm and not the exception

Fuck off dickhead. That's not how it works. Every society that reaches a high enough divide between the rich and the poor ends up collapsing. We knew this even in the time of the Greeks.

It's sickening how many people praise capitalism on this board. For a board which believes in nationalism, strong culture, strong family unit, etc. it's amazing that they praise a system that leads to the opposite of all these things. What's also sickening is they have actually deluded themselves to believe that socialism and nationalism aren't incompatible when it's actually more compatible than capitalism.

>>134522749
Kek and no.

>>134519508
>mcccubbin- down on his luck.jpg
>fire
>shelter
>food
>water
>down on his luck
hmmm

>>134519508
And what equation will you use to separate people who deserved their poverty and those who didnt deserve their poverty? How do you know which billionaire deserved all of his money, and which billionaire deserved half a dollar less than what he has atm, and which billionaire deserved nothing????

You dont have this equation. You dont have anything. All you (will) have is banditry. All you will have is violence. And in this violence, you will assemble a huge mass of the rich, and a huge mass of the poor. And in this huge mass of the rich, you will have those currently rich, which there are a lot of best doctors, engineers, pilots, people who can build missiles, people who know how to make an aircraft, people who know how to be productive AND kill people.
And in the huge mass of the poor, you will have unproductive degenerates, drunkards, junkies, lazy scum, people who dont know how to make an aircraft, people who arent productive, people who cant mass artillery, people who cant fight, people who cant feed themselves, people who are helpless, people who are going to die.

And in the end, you are going to die.
Killing "the rich" will only hurt yourself. You need the rich. You use facebook. You use computers. You use cars. You dont need the poor for anything.

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>>134522910
Funny you say that, since in the late 1800's the US had exactly that and we are still here. Doesn't seem to be that precisely. Perhaps it was a lot more complicated than a forced one dimensional analysis?

Again, seems like you live in a fantasy land anon. Not being a retard means you can make it here.

http://jacksonville.com/opinion/editorials/2012-01-27/story/three-rules-staying-out-poverty

So please, tell me about the vast successes of socialism while you lie to me about the very system I live in and have seen success in. And that the facts support.

Any redistribution of wealth should originate from a fair equalization of salaries and cracking down on bonuses.

>>134519508
>deserving poor

No such thing.
Also why is the middle class, coddled piece of shit like you waffling about dysfunctional commie shit?

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>>134523264
Here's the original source for you, anon. Seems like capitalism works for most people.

https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/three-simple-rules-poor-teens-should-follow-to-join-the-middle-class/

>>134522910
Exactly.

Capitalism is in direct opposition to nationalism and all the values a civilised people hold dear.

it is merely an invention of the Jew designed to divide the goy and provide an easy mechanism for their exploitation.

We should be helping each other, not scrambling over each other for another few shekels. It is not and has never been fair for one man to earn more than a million other men combined. It will never be. Socialism managed in a democratic nationalist setting will always be a superior system. Australian history has always centred around this theme and many of our greatest men have had socialist ideas.

>>134523264
You have succeeded, but many others have not. It is not an equitable situation.

I'm glad Australians have never really accepted the ravages of capitalism. After all, we invented free, compulsary and secular public schooling and had the world's first elected labour party. A party with the stated purpose of representing workers, not the privileged.

But what I fear is we may be losing this egalitarian drive. And I think this egalitarian drive doesn't exist to the extent it should in the rest of the world.

>>134519508
it's is not about the ammount of energy you put into a task, but the value of that task and often the difficulty of the task. A single miner hitting stone all day does less of value than the guy who is running all of the mines.
Don't make it more complicated than it is.

>>134519508
We already have huge redistribution implemented through taxes. That can be tweaked further one way or another but this radical suggestion would be a disaster. There needs to be a comfortable amount of economic liberty and stratification for a healthy society. Everything else leads to degeneracy.

>>134520049
>They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work
You probably have no idea how accurate this is. This is literally how the Soviet Union "worked"

>>134523862
Inequality is the biggest contributor towards societal degeneracy. It is degeneracy in and of itself, and poisons the solidarity that is key to any healthy society.

>>134519508
I wouldn't say the rich don't deserve their wealth, but I have an issue with perpetual wealth (talking about the top 0.5% here).

>Get money.
>Invest.
>Get more money.
>Invest
>Literally don't need to do anything productive for generations for the rest of capitalism.

Seems kind of wrong to be honest. But I don't really know what the solution should be.

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>>134519508
National socialism for Australia

No Marxist Labor/safe schools bullshit
No Liberal Banker/Jewish/Chinese overlords

Heil Mosley

>>134523511
This has been posted in every thread, suspicious as fuck.

>>134519508
>Wealth should be redistributed
Not even worth reading any further

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Geo-Libertarianism
100% inheritance tax

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>>134524665
No, not national socialism. Australianism.

Don't heil Mosley, instead admire JT Lang, Ted Theodore, William Lane, John Curtin and Lachlan Macquarie, and seek to continue their work building the most fair, equitable and successful nation in the history of man kind.

>>134524806
We need Australian fascism.

No more shall we be slaves to the Jews and the Bankers
No more shall we be slaves to the Marxists who are one with the Jews. Either Australian fascism or Anglosphere fascism

No substitutes

>>134524948
Australianism is what we need and it provides for what you ask.

Go and read up on Australian history lad.

http://www.ironbarkresources.com/articles/lang1956whiteaustralia.htm

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>>134521629
Are you fucking retarded?

>>134524110
>Inequality is the biggest contributor towards societal degeneracy. It is degeneracy in and of itself, and poisons the solidarity that is key to any healthy society.
Nowhere in nature, be it animal kingdom or human society, was there ever equality between individuals. The inequality is a natural outcome of game of life. Liberty, justice and personal responsibility lead to it. The solidarity is important virtue that any honorable man and woman need to hone for themselves, it certainly can not be instituted from the above, as was well documented in communist regimes. I agree that it is easier to have solidarity towards people similar to you than to different ones, but that is due to lack of virtue. Properly educated and raised man will have solidarity with much broader range of his fellows than just those that are his carbon copy.

>>134519508
I'm fine with rich people. Unfortunately, a few a them think they can decide the fate of humanity.
Big problem.

>>134519508
Spend some time making smart decisions and work hard. That way you won't have to cry and demand that someone else give you money for nothing.
PS - fuck you loser.

>>134519508
>Wealth should be redistributed with the aim of rough equality of outcomes.
>waaaahhhhhh some people are better than me, I want their stuff waaahhh!
Jews and banks are another thing altogether.

>>134519508
Fuck communism, fuck socialism.

Bunch of weaklings using state force to rob the working class, its 22/7 faggots im gonna celebrate with cake after work.

>>134524995
Without fascism white Australia will not survive, i know all about our history. Fascism will preserve our culture and our race it is imperative the democratic elements are deleted and the well eduacted and strong leaders take the reigns

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>>134519508
If you are a weak beta faggot that cant compete in a free market then you have no right to exist on this planet

>>134525096
Appeal to nature fallacy.

Civilisation is a triumph against nature. It's a triumph against all the uncountable forces of nature which seek to reduce humanity and its destiny to the mere whims of uncaring molecules.

Intelligence, and civilisation as a product of that, is the most aggressive element in the universe standing against the undirected and unfair vagaries of evolution, nature and even chance itself.

To be human is to be a brief success against inequality. And blow by blow we're winning the battle. Medical technology, the microchip, harnessing the power of the atom. We're cracking the secrets of the universe and with them we can do anything.

I don't care what happens in the animal kingdom. I don't care what happens in nature. Humanity is above that. If you advocate for inequality you advocate to reduce humanity to the status of any animal subject tragically to the cold and uncaring forces of nature.

>>134525327
Fascism is utterly retarded. You don't know anything about our history if you're advocating for it.

Australianism is a higher form of societal organisation than fascism. Democracy must be strengthened rather than withered. It is the one remaining weapon of the common man against the Jew.

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>>134525660
Democracy is a cancer that must be pulled out and torn apart. Fascism is the best at preserving culture, your the unsure on our culture

Jack Lang was hugely unpopular with a lot of the working class

Who cut the ribbon on the bridge
Francis de Groot who was apart of the old guard

The New Guard was formed in Sydney, Australia in February 1931 as a paramilitary offshoot from a conservative tradition defending loyalty to King and Empire, sound government, law and order, individual liberty and property rights. In particular, the movement was formed in response to the policies adopted by Jack Lang, the leader of the Labor Party and Premier of New South Wales It was led by Lt. Colonel Eric Campbell, a First World War veteran.

All of that mentioned is in a Fascist society, Jack lang was a fucking socialist who demolished private housing to get the bridge up. If anything the shitty corrupt parliament needs to be destroyed and fascists or the Royals need to step up to the job

>>134519508
>trying to get /pol/ to support communism
>example used is a "billionaire (((JEW)))"
>it will probably work
Commies should just fucking kill themselves

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>>134525660
democracy dosn't work

it divides a nation into political parties and breaks apart a nation opening them up to the united Judaic powers

>>134526165
Jack Lang was the idol and hero of the working class.

The New Guard were traitors attempting to secure their privilege, nothing more.

Australia has never been a capitalist nation. Lang was a battler for working people and an absolute giant and hero of this nation.

>>134526346
>Romanian people

Kek. Start studying Australian history m8. If you hate democracy you hate Australia given we are essentially the successor society to ancient Athens and have developed pretty much every democratic innovation since then.

>>134526583
There's nothing democratic about Anglo history.

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>>134526583
>Australia has never been a capitalist nation.
I agree and we've never been a true democracy,

>we are essentially the successor society to ancient Athens and have developed pretty much every democratic innovation since then.
lol no

No the Queen could destroy our Parliament if she wished and she has done it before because Surprise surprise democracies are corrupt

If you wanna go live out your muh freedom muh democracy you can go join the revolting colonists in America. We have never been a true democracy. They are

in 1986 the high court wasn't even the highest court it was the privy council back in England. The queen appoints people who could kick out the prime minister

Fuck off filthy democrat or Republican. Democracy is a filthy scam that's like redpill 101 along with non whites being shit

anyone on /pol/ lone enough becomes a ancap or a nazi/monachist

>>134525602
>To be human is to be a brief success against inequality.
Please stop bloviating meaningless sentences. There is no theoretical, let alone empirical evidence of that "triumph" against inequality or nature. You're reading too much crackpots, anon.

>>134520346
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>>134527040
He thinks were the successors to fucking Ancient Athens where one of our prime ministers got kicked out by the Queen.

Atleat tell him America is where all the freemen went to live, those loyal to the crown stayed in Canada and the other colonies

>>134526962
The Queen can't do shit mate. Fucking lol you little dweeb.

>muh freedom muh democracy

I didn't state anything about freedom, although Australian egalitarian socialist democracy brings one about as close to true freedom as can be attained.

>in 1986 the high court wasn't even the highest court it was the privy council back in England. The queen appoints people who could kick out the prime minister

No and no. The Australian government unilaterally removed the authority of the privy council without the affirmative consent of the UK. The gov general is appointed on the advice of the PM and if the Queen ever tried to exercise her theoretical powers we'd just arrest the GG and boot out the monarchy.

>anyone on /pol/ lone enough becomes a ancap

You are a really revolting Jew. You absolutely disgust me. Get the fuck out of this nation and go to whatever shithole suits you better, because Australia will never succumb to your Jewish ideology. The very essence and core of Australian identity is in direct opposition to everything you stand for. If you had ever read a single book on Australian history you would understand that.

>>134526803
Democracy in the sense that you are given a voice equal to your stature. Now it has been corrupted to mean equal voice for unequal people.

>>134520430
Nope. Theres millions of examples that disprove that bs leftist theory

>>134527204
>The Queen can't do shit mate. Fucking lol you little dweeb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional_crisis

Hurr what is kicking out the Prime minister, what is being our head of state???

>I didn't state anything about freedom, although Australian egalitarian socialist democracy brings one about as close to true freedom as can be attained.
Australia Social democracy. Fuck off you filthy red go suck off some more ""Left libertarians"" and Greens.

>>in 1986 the high court wasn't even the highest court it was the privy council back in England. The queen appoints people who could kick out the prime minister
>No and no. The Australian government unilaterally removed the authority of the privy council without the affirmative consent of the UK. The gov general is appointed on the advice of the PM and if the Queen ever tried to exercise her theoretical powers we'd just arrest the GG and boot out the monarchy.
No the Queen appoints the general and the Queen can tell the general to fuck over our parliament.
We are not free. Even if Malcolm turnkike was 100% corrupt if the Queen kicks him out we're not a democracy nor are we "free" in any sense of the rod. How would America be free if the Queen could boot Donald out

You absolutely disgust me. Get the fuck out of this nation and go to whatever shithole suits you better, because Australia will never succumb to your Jewish ideology. The very essence and core of Australian identity is in direct opposition to everything you stand for. If you had ever read a single book on Australian history you would understand that.

lol the democracy kike calls a literal nazi a jew
No the core of Australian identity is British identity, all this nu age Australian identity only appeared in the 60's and 70's where we opened up to Chink immigration and Americans started to destroy our society with their media and the Jews began to infiltrate our society.

We were never a republic
We were never a true democracy

>>134519508
Literally. all of the NatSoc LARPers on /pol/ think this post is promoting gommunism.
Can't even LARP correctly.

>>134527626
The queen can't do anything.

>muh words in a piece of paper

No. She can't do anything. We keep her around because it's easier than changing.

>the core of Australian identity is British identity

Ok, well go back to Britain then.

>>134519508
what if you could only earn up to 10 million then all the rest of the money goes back to society. who needs more than 10 million? only narcissists

>>134527204
muh freedom of speech muh communists deserve rights
muh republic
muh chink immgrants
Your a fucking wog I can already smell the southern yurop genes on you

your some nu age faggot that thinks a democracy actually keeps jews out and you've been blinded by American Libertarian propaganda.

I'll tell you where all the freedom/democracy faggots like you went. AMERICA

It's either you're slaving for peanuts or are the owner of the place and in that case are laughing all the way to the bank.

>>134527850
Australia invented democracy.

I didn't say anything about freedom of speech nor communists deserving rights. You made that up.

Australia is a democratic socialist workers' state. That was always the intention, ever since the first fleet. Arthur Phillip intended Australia to be a socialist nation and every giant of Australian history has been committed to the tenets of Australianism:

- Workers' rights
- White only immigration
- A welfare state

If you don't agree with any of this, just get out. Fuck off back to the UK or whatever shitheap it is you hail from.

>>134519508
Knowledge is power is what I learned working in a fortune 500 company.
We bottom tier assistant types do the heavy lifting.
But that's because we don't know shit.
My boss and the supervisors spend time in meetings and on the phones but it's because they spent years doing what I.and other assistants are doing and.they were the best of the bunch and learned the craft and can talk it to others to make deals happen.

If you work hard you should be learning hard instead of complaining about some jews who know a lot more than you do about the business you are working in (except you probably don't work and spend hours on pol and are just virtue signaling for yous)

>>134527771
>No. She can't do anything. We keep her around because it's easier than changing.
nah we tried having a vote to get rid of the monarchy. It failed so as such anything the Queen says to her governor general goes here


>Ok, well go back to Britain then.
Why would I both sides of my family where from the first fleet


Oh my where did all this British identity come from??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xDFzKZqCVg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9abEC1kCLc

28% of our population right now was born overseas the vast vast majority of this coming from Briton

>>134519508
Fuck you and your stupid Marxist shit. Equality doesn't exist you think these people perpetuate their wealth forever? They have 1 shitty crop of nihilistic kids who blow it all on drugs and escapism all the time. The people who are on top are so because they know how to generate, and substain a lifestyle while you bitch because you're to stupid to learn a valuble skill get paid for it and make investments to support your own life style.

>>134519508
You're obviously a useless beta loser, OP - So, kill yourself. You're a failure.

>>134527771
>Ok, well go back to Britain then.
I bet you've never even heard of the oringal Advance Austalia fair you fucking socailist wog

Australia is English you fucking degenerate welfare state, democracy loving, anti British, anti monarchy left leaning marxist

Verse 1
Australia's sons let us rejoice,
For we are young and free;
We've golden soil and wealth for toil,
Our home is girt by sea;
Our land abounds in Nature's gifts
Of beauty rich and rare;
In hist'ry's page, let ev'ry stage
Advance Australia fair.
In joyful strains then let us sing,
Advance Australia fair.

Verse 2
When gallant Cook from Albion sailed,
To trace wide oceans o'er,
True British courage bore him on,
Til he landed on our shore.
Then here he raised Old England's flag,
The standard of the brave;
"With all her faults we love her still"
"Britannia rules the wave."
In joyful strains then let us sing
Advance Australia fair.
Verse 3
While other nations of the globe
Behold us from afar,
We'll rise to high renown and shine
Like our glorious southern star;
From England soil and Fatherland,
Scotia and Erin fair,
Let all combine with heart and hand
To advance Australia fair.
In joyful strains then let us sing
Advance Australia fair.

Verse 4
Should foreign foe e'er sight our coast,
Or dare a foot to land,
We'll rouse to arms like sires of yore,
To guard our native strand;
Britannia then shall surely know,
Though oceans roll between,
Her sons in fair Australia's land
Still keep their courage green.
In joyful strains then let us sing
Advance Australia fair.*

>>134520215
Poor people are poor because they're low IQ and high time preference.

>>134520049
>T. Educated by Ayn Rand Alone Roo-fucker

>>134519508
There must be absolute inequality. Should two people have the same income, they must battle to the death. Some level of equality is allowed in that people will not be executed if they have the same net worth. A nigger doesn't work exactly as hard as a spic so they shouldnt be paid the same. To ensure population control and inequality, the last two digits of your income (cents) determines your effective tax rate. This number is randomly generated and if dubles they must pay double the tax.
Communists are literal retards who promote worker apathy and should be turned into coats. Prove me wrong

>>134519508
>equality of outcome
>i.e. equity
The top two predictors for individual's success in the West are IQ and conscientiousness. That's a bad thing now? The societies and technologies the West has produced are worse than... what? No, wait, there are none, but we have an entirely century's worth of nations who tried it your way, and they ended up not only fucking up their economies but also genociding their own peoples.

Make your argument that scales with people other than multibillionaires, because what you're seemingly advocating essentially wipes its ass with entrepreneurship and innovation in order to pay for the dead weight in society.

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>>134519508
why do the poor deserve anything but chains? On average they're of inferior intellect and competence

>>134530479
this

>>134530479
Cuck.

>>134519508
>Every dollar Mark Zuckerberg racks up is another dollar unavailable to the masses

That's not how fiat currency works. You obviously have no idea who an economy works and should just quit being a whiny fuck.

>>134519508

>the deserving poor

So the nogs that leech off welfare check after welfare check and do not contribute anything to society outside a heavy burden of cleaning up their messes?

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>>134519508
>Use the power of the state to redistribute resources downwards to the deserving poor.

Wont work, here's an example why:
>during uni years I worked part time at a paint store
>poor nig used to come in erry few days and clown around, shuck and jive, and tell jokes
>he filed for autism bux and got them with an up front check for $40k
>he bought new gaudy clothes and a reproduction gray civil war kept hat
>within a month drugs and alcohol put him in the hospital
>he was dead within a year and had spent the 40k
OP needs to study sociology. No matter how much money you get even if its via windfall, you can only rise one level socially.

You cannot turn ghetto/trailer trash into upper class no matter how much money you throw at them. They will still be trash.

>>134528012
>Australia invented democracy.
uwotm8

>>134521629
>how can one designate a control group the size of a country?

You can just study it empirically without control groups. Its not exact, but it works.

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>>134520049
I don't think thats what ops suggesting. hes suggesting a cull, redistribute the money once.

I'd much rather honestly it be invested in ways that will create jobs but the very rich are all crooks and just avoid all their taxes anyway.

Anyway theres a simpler solution to all of this. Destroy welfare for children. if only those who can afford children can raise children then the next generation will not grow up so destitute as this one.

>>134519508

No. No god what the fuck why are you such an ignorant faggot.

"The state" is not a thing that exists independently of humans. It *is* humans. All of its decisions, impulses, actions and inactions, decisiveness, neglect, decrees, failures and successes are the actions of humans. It is not an engine or a clock or machine, contraption or automatic lifeform except as a metaphor. (I know autists have a hard time with metaphors, so I don't really hold you responsible for being such a huge ignorant faggot, but you are one anyway.)

So when you say "the state" you really are saying "other humans". These humans are just as stupid, greedy and vain as the "bad humans" who "caused all of that inequality".

EXCEPT these new "good guys" also have the full power of physical force to enforce whatever shitty idea they come up with.

This results in the formation of a *true* oligarchy as the new leaders inevitably take advantage of their power to enrich themselves, which is what you see in every single country that goes all in for socialism or communism, ever in literally all of recorded history.

By separating commerce from politics, we get a metaphorical oligarchy (there is that word metaphor again) in the public sphere, but we do not need to suffer under a literal oligarchy.

In conclusion, OP is a huge faggot.

Have you noticed that only worthless parasites are striving for equality of outcome?
Really makes you think.

>>134519508
>Wealth should be redistributed with the aim of rough equality of outcomes.
>Equality of outcomes
Fuck off, commie

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Should this fat cunt be allowed to gig up our rrsources for her personal gain?
Goes for all other mining companies e.g. bhp

>>134519809
You're advocating for communism which is literally the most Jewish ideology.

Equality is a false god. Some people are better. And no commie can change this.

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>Old Capitalism
I'm going to do something good for society and get rich. I'm going to produce wool or cotton or coal so we can advance as a civilization, the resources can then be refined into clothes and fuel by other businesses and help the rest of the economy.
>Nu-capitalism
I'm going to brainwash children and manchildren into buying my worthless plastic shit via predatory advertising and outright lies and then lobby the government to give me subsidies and destroy my competition. I am then going to use my newfound wealth not to help society or the economy in any way, but I will hoard it and invest it into equally scandalous businesses as mine so as to turn even a greater profit.

Society has become fully Judiaized.

>>134523492
>Australian history has always centred around this theme and many of our greatest men have had socialist ideas.
That explains why your "country" is such an irrelevant shithole.

>>134525602
>Humanity is above that
Says the country that can't even win a war against its own wildlife
>Select all images with helicopters

If anyone ever tried to put an end to rich people in the future, it should be something realistic

No ones ever going to redistribute the wealth, even if communist type government came to power they would steal the money for themselves

Something better would be put a limit on peoples personal assets, say $100 million max

>>134521900

This is terrible. Not only do you kill an incentive to save money, but your children won't be inheriting the spoils of your hard work, no, the person who will inherit the money is some low-life trash you have nothing in common with.

People who are good with money will continue to rise up to the one percent, and those who are not, will fall out of the one percent. The matter of inheritance is not an issue whatsoever.

>>134519508
I'm no white knight for capitalism, but a lot of you faggots are just jealous of the rich

>>134519508
Working hard isn't the only factor. You could work really hard all day moving a bunch of rocks by hand from one place to another, but unless it serves some purpose that is useful to somebody, nobody's gonna give you anything for it. Why the fuck should a guy with 2 cows give you 1 of them just because you don't have any of your own? Fuck off you thief.

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Commie bullshit.

Sage

>>134536271
It would have to be implemented and enforced at a global scale, otherwise people will just hide any assets that go past the 100 mil max offshore.

>>134536555

You're not entirely wrong. The people who want communism are generally those who wish to see the "bourgeoisie" suffer. They're not in it for the ideas of protecting the working class, no, they're perfectly happy to exploit them just as the "evil pig capitalists" do, as history clearly tells us.

All they wish to be are the exploiters, and not those they deem exploited. They're jealous.

>>134523266
Yeah fuck sharing the prosperity of having a good year through bonuses! Give it all back to the shareholders! Woo fuck employees

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>>134519508
Then you might as well leave Straya and redistribute it back to the abos, because you're richer than them and you don't deserve that mostly brown wealth of land.

>>134524806
you're a champ. good on you

>>134527538
and you are unable to produce any of them for us

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>>134519508
>The rich don't deserve their wealth.
Yeah, and neither do you.

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>>134519508

>>134519508
Don't use their services
Don't use Facebook for a start
Ad block all the time

If you want to be superior
You have to be superior

>>134535856
>ideology with no money is jewish ideology

please explain

>>134535979
This,but it's not capitalism it's the culture and society that's at fault

>>134538356
at least half of /pol/ don't know the differences between socialism and communism let alone the differences of ideals between communism and Marxism.

>>134538308
Underrated

>>134538557
this

>>134519604
Can you describe me then: why business of Cuck Cuckberg is legal business and business of owner of deepweb marketplace is illegall?

>>134519508
>assuming that said "jews" would allow their wealth to be redistributed, and wouldn't buy their way into the now over-powered state.

The billionaire Jew will always find a loop hole in the current political environment, it's all about swinging the ideologies between right authoritarian and libertarian to slowly build more power to real people.

>>134519508
As a national trotskyist, I agree.

>>134538557
Limiting the money of people limits their power. The government will have complete power over the citizens in this situation.

Commies OUT

>>134539051
CAPPIES OUT

>equality of outcome
Anybody who actually believes this is possible was starved of oxygen at birth.

Wow he waited almost till the end of his little rant to demand the death of innocent people, not bad for your typical commie psychopath.

You redistribute wealth that people earned to create a society that never gains productivity, stagnate as the food production with your ideology.
Jews use money to control countries, that is true. But the issue is they have just as much power in the state without it.

>But m-m-m-uh free welfare

>>134520215

>Poor people are poor because they're not determined and/or can't manage their finances. Redistributing wealth would change nothing in the long term, dumbass

Redistributive taxation is a continuous process, it changes the balance as long as it's in place.

Also it's already in place, it's a question of where to put the balance and to whether to only fuck the middle class or to go after the top class as well. It's probably too late now, a new globalist aristocracy has been created and nothing short of guillotines or a world war will redress the balance.

cool, we should start with you first OP.

>>134521202
>taxes help to make the society around you good
I'd willingly pay more taxes if this was even remotely true in the west anymore.

>>134528018

To what end? You're just working for your personal economic success, maybe including your family ... but you are fooling yourself if you think the jews around you are doing the same thing.

Knowledge is power, you wield your power capriciously ... the jews do it with intent, the intent to eventually destroy you and yours.

>>134519809
>Jews invented capitalism.
what

>>134520346
this

>>134522477
good job sir

>>134520551
Good thing you understand why Hohoł land is shithole and always will be.
You deserve it.