>I own an AR-15 rifle to defend myself from my governm-

>>134513786
The US government uses weapons against its own people like that will immediately cause an uproar in so many communities and those from within would guarantee an almost immediate destruction of the government that supported it.

>>134513786
someone post that one Jap-anon screencap that annihilates this argument

i know one of you niggers has it

>>134514578
someone post the Jap-anon screencap...

>>134513786
You obviously don't know shit about insurgencies or freedom or the 2nd Amendment. Go drink some Mulson or whatever you French Canadien cuck.

>>134513786
You forget that it's the conservatives and libertarians that distrust the government. They also control the military. So really it would be an AR-15 Vs Drone, it would be AR15 + Drone Vs Liberals.

>>134513786
just shoot down the missile before before it hits you it is not even hard

>>134516381
*Wouldn't be an ar15 Vs drone

>>134513786
Typical leaf thinking.

There are more citizens with ARs than there are soldiers.

Yes, the soldiers have better tech. But how many of them are actually going to fire that missile or run over that unarmed protester with their tank?

Stop being a faggot, leaf. Please.

>>134516358
i'm american you idiot

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>when the government shows up to your house with tanks and burns down the place with you inside after they blast "These Boots Are Made For Walkin'" at you for several days

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>>134513786
My kingdom for some launch codes!

>>134514261
not if we bomb the shit out of everything

The purpose behind the right to bear arms has already been effectively as you have astutely pointed out anon.

We, the people have become unable to defend ourselves from an oppressive government.

Should the need arise if an entire neighborhood gets together with all of their six shooters and shotguns and rifles they will be no better off than Ahmed over in Afghanistan. You will simply be shredded by an apache helicopter or blown to bits by a predator missile strike.

Apparently communist OP has forgotten his roots and that Guerrilla warfare can cripple giants. If we have to we will slow a tyrannical government down to a stalemate. It is fine if you do not believe this, but you would be a fool to think so. Guerrilla fighters are always regular people with families and friends. You progressive fuckers are sowing the wind, and when you do this you reap the whirlwind.

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>"I have guns to defend myself from the government overstepping boundaries"
>Checkpoints on every road where you have to show your ID to prove you're an American citizen hindering your ability to move within the country freely
>"its o-o-ok i g-g-g-uess theyre just doing their j-j-job"

>>134516570
Yeah but your Canadian.

>>134516762
>Guerrilla warfare can cripple giants
That worked so well in Afghanistan and Iraq, didnt it?

Oh wait, Guerrilla warfare is now totally ineffective with aerial and satellite surveillance not to mention backdoors installed on every PC, recording every phone call and constant monitoring of all network traffic in the US.

They can lock up geurillas now before they even have a chance to strike

>>134516715
Those in the middle east are successfully defending themselves believe it or not...

What we should have done is banned guns in the middle east and invaded after that...

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>Braps your path

Wat do?

>>134516896

>What we should have done is banned guns in the middle east and invaded after that...

Or we should have engaged in a war we actually wanted to end.

>>134513786

if the government even entertains the idea of using it's military on it's own citizens in order to reduce constitutional rights, it's not a government that should continue to function

how thick must you be ?

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We own rifles because we can and you faggots can't, we do it for just that purpose. To piss all you cucks off.

>>134513786
you can't collect taxes with a drone

>people STILL responding to this thread

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>>134516990

This.

>>134516667
>and shoots the people trying to escape the fire

>>134516894
They can't lock up everyone who has a gun.

They want everyone to give up their gun willingly.

If that happens, we are all screwed...

But hey, the USSR fell and they did not have guns, right?

>>134517122

>Implying you need taxes

The upper class, corporations and businesses pay bulk of the taxes. Maybe get out of your mums basement, fat boy.

>>134517010
We should have invaded israel tbhfam.

>>134516402
360 first, then hipfire

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>>134516990
*brrrrt*

>>134516894

Have you progressive faggots lost your souls? You guys used to understand that the human will could not be conquered.

Yeah they might destroy me, but they could not crush my spirit, or change my point of view. I would rather die than believe what you believe. You are servants of Antichrist.

You progressives have forgotten all value, and no longer remember what it is like to believe in something so much that you would die for it. You ignoble fucks. Stop tempting people with your perversions and materialism. Wake up and believe in something you soulless revenant. Go away you servant of evil.

>>134516570
>flag
Sure buddy, keep dreaming

>>134517086
We can buy hunting rifles and shotguns, although their expensive as shit

>>134516570
this is the greatest leaf post I've ever seen

>>134516358
>Insurgency
>US
Never going to work faggot.

>>134517142
I just want the Jap-anon screencap that annihilates this argument.

>>134517228
corporations employing the citizens you just droned?

>>134516785
What the fuck are you even talking about

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>>134513786
My noggin is joggin!

Enough people with guns, with the aid of military defectors, can steal a helicopter/drone/jet/tank. A lone wolf obviously wouldn't do shit. That being said, an actual rebellion would consist of a whole lot more than just one person.

>>134517224
>>134517292
>It is ok for them to record every call, monitor all web traffic, and arrest people for speaking out as long as they dont take our guns
you dont get it. I cant tell if your stupid or trolling.
This is about guns. people should have guns no argument here.

The issue is that the second amendment was designed to allow us to fight back against an oppressive regime.

That ability to fight back has been degraded to the point its like we're the indians with bows and arrows fighting back against a government with horses rifles and cannons and Gatling guns.

Your right. they can destroy you. they cant crush the collective spirit, but they can keep destroying those who have it just like they've done (and continue) to do in other countries.

>>134513786
>government owns 300 million predator drones to oppress every citizen

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>>134513786
>thinking that military drones are operated by the feds...

>>134513786
No one ever said you would win against a murderous government. The point is to take out as many soldiers before they kill you

>>134513786
There's quite a difference here. US military would lose on the ground in a civil war. All the drones won't help them as each and every base falls to rebel hands and the same weapons used against them.

>>134517476

He's equating the American government needing to keep 20% of their population (the niggers) in line in public spaces with the American government telling you that you can't say mean things

>>134513786
Wow, they have made a new drone that never has to land to refuel or reload?

>>134513786
There is always going to be resistance and subversion in oppressive regimes. People would rather die than lose freedom.

>>134513786
vietnam

>>134513786
This shit again.
You know what, leaf?
No, just no.
Fuck you.
Saged.

>>134513786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ADdToI9Akw

Those people are cowards, Donny.

>>134517687

I agree with you then. You did not exactly make it clear. Also I do not like the addition of "collective" with spirit. The collective is made of individual people, individual existers who like it or not are made in the image and likeness of God. You cannot turn individual people into some kind of modality. This is why I hate communism. It comes from the industrial revolution. It treats people as units of production just like the capitalists, except you do not get to own shit. Fuck that. And please do not do that lawyer shit with "personal property". That is stupid.

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>>134517694

>implying spooks haven't been calling targets for ages now

>>134516715
2nd amendment applies to everything. We can legally own tanks and artillery. Same with back in the day where artillery and ships were privately owned as well as a lot of the muskets.

>>134513786
>drone pilots are immune to ar15 rou-

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>>134518026
>implying the U.S. military would coordinate with spooks over American soil.
It has never happened for a reason shlep.

>>134516990
>Wat do?
Shoot the pilot with AR-15

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>>134513786

Yet all the drones in the world have yet to stop any middle eastern insurgency using 40 year old Soviet weapons. We have a more armed people than the past 10 conflicts we lost in the middle east. Only a leaf.

>>134516707
>canada
>we
Don't you have a check to write to Hilldog?

>>134518063
but can we own drones which fire missiles?

Sure, we can own a tank. a demilitarized tank. Meaning, we can own a massive hunk of armored steel that gets horrible gas mileage and cant do really anything except drive slowly over shit.

and sure, we can own modern artillery but not the guided rounds that go with it.

>>134517926
i'm american suck my dick mother fucker

I also want to point out that in the military we take an oath to protect civilians form foreign and domestic threats. The day the US govt. orders the military to kill our families and fellow Americans is the day capitol hill get eradicated. Honestly we might be soldiers but we aren't mindless morons with no independent thought.

>>134518124
fucking lol

>>134513786
weather ballon with steel cable> drone

>>134516707
>the wild canuck in its natural habitat fantasizing about mattering

>>134518310

There are people out there trying to figure out and learn how to drop out of this postmodern garbage society. Yeah they might kill us, but they can never win if we do not join them. People are waking up to the powers of the globalists and what they have done, and what tehy are capable of. What is your beef, anyways?

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>>134514578
I WANT TO SEE IT, WHAT DOES IT SAY?

>>134514261
not if they rev up the propaganda machine to label that person as a "dangerous hateful terrorist"
Look what happened to lazanga

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It entirely depends on how many are protesting fighting. If it's a bunch of rednecks that take up arms and start an insurgency you can bet your ass they get fucked hard by the army and no one gives a shit if they die.

If it's actually the majority of the people like in Egypt Soldiers will refuse to open fire because news that the people are rising up will always spread.

>>134517291

A FUCKING TELESCOPE

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>>134518596

>>134514261
OP is apparently not related to any marines...

>74 replies
Is it your first day here...

>>134513786
Jokes on you our government is armed with outdated second hand equipment. On the other hand guns are banned...

>>134518310
>a demilitarized tank
Try a real fucking tank. And real fucking rocket launchers. Machineguns and explosives. They're hard to get and expensive as fuck, but possible and that's all that matters

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>>134518776
Thanks americunt brah, I love you and your burger country.

>>134517481
>this
My money is on the Federal Government winning.
The win would come with a terrible cost though...perhaps ushering in a world government...

>>134518973
Anytime friend

>>134518947

>tank
>urban warfare

Vehicles are useless. The future is urban warfare. Youll get crushed trying to fight conventional fights across large lands. Just stick to the cities/suburbs and do guerilla urban warfare.

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>>134513786
fuck off

>>134513786
2nd Amendment isn't limited to rifles, m8.

>>134518497
Hahaha, all of human history would like to have a word with you. Soldiers are not simply told "go kill your family". They, like the civilians around them, are carefully propagandized over time in order to develop an us-vs-them mentality, and will be posted to quell rebellions and execute traitors on the other side of the country. It's worked time and time again, and pretending like things are suddenly different is idiotic.

>>134519136
State security can put an end to insurgency real quick. KGB destroyed our insurgency in like 5 years because they were left off the hook and could use any method necessary CIA follows close behind but at least they had some 'restrictions'.

>>134514261
Obama already did use drones to kill Americans.
Only the chans knew, only the chans cared, but obviously not enough to do any thing about it.

>>134519136
all the fed troops have to do is surround the city and starve them out

EZ PZ

Now, if foreign nations get involved, as well as defectors in the US Military, that is a different story

>>134519219
can you repost that image please?

>>134519451
Case in point, the whiskey rebellion. Fought on both sides by people who were veterans of the fucking revolution, so they weren't exactly new to the concept of fighting for liberty. And yet militias were mustered and happily marched to stop the rebels. Their own countrymen.

>>134519477

Starve who out? I said guerilla urban warfare. Who are you starving out? Who are you fighting? Are you going to attack all civilians? 300million vs what 500k soldiers?

>>134519727
Can't you train eagles to take down drones?

>>134519451

If everyone was a reject like you, maybe it would be better if we put the people down.But I digress, very few in the military if any actual amount, would participate in offensive maneuvers domestically.

The historical conflicts you are referring to are when multiple client armies are in play at the same time. Our sworn duty and loyalty is to our country not any individual. Might change in the future but as it stands now this wont be the case. If you want to look more into your "look at the history" statement, try learning about actual history first.

>>134519808

Take down what drones? You can make any signal jammer and boost it off radio towers and knock out communications in a 20km radius that includes satellite connection to drones. Signal jammers aren't just illegal because they block emergency services they're illegal because they can block the whole spectrum

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>>134513786

>>134513786
What about people who have their ASSAULT RIFLE FIFTEEN to protect themselves against niggers and drug crazed lefties like you?
Sage goes without saying.

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>>134520065
Interesting. Where can I learn more about this, any good sauces of info m8?

>>134520294
Get a ham radio license or stay in school.

>>134516570
"I'm a real boy!"

>>134519469
The CIA killed JFK. Do you truly believe that they are restricted by anything?

>>134519947
See
>>134519706

Also see every dictatorship or even semi-authoritarian government ever. Soviets didn't mind rounding up their own. Neither did the Burmese. Neither did the Cambodians, Chinks, Japs, Germans, Brits, Italians, Indians, virtually all of South America at some point, and even the fucking Canadians. You are deluded in your exceptionalism.

You want a recent example? Look at the last standoff the Bundys had, at the nature preserve. Remember the overwhelming public opinion against them? Remember the massive police presence?

If you want something a little older, look at Kent State. Nasty Girls had no problem lighting up those hippies, despite being fellow Americans.

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>>134513786
>it's this thread again

>>134513786
>I'm making the most debunked thread topic agai....
>sage

>>134520520
>>it's this thread again
>no sage, bumped it
You are pretty special.

>>134520294
Sorry my bro but under EU legislation, civilian, non commercial radio equipment cannot exceed 0.5watts power lol

>>134518558
i've said it multiple times, but i'm an american visiting canada. but, when i shitpost and put on my BLM flag people think i'm canadian

i am a nigger btw

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>>134520455

Oh shit I didn't realize you had all the answers. Never mind.

>>134520065
Another question, why don't the shits from ISIS use that against the drones in Syria? Or they do and the radio towers get bombed 1st by normal airplanes and then drones can be used again?

>>134520773
The thing is when the EU army kicks your door in to shut off your jammer you can use your AR 15 (which you can't have in Poland unless you briefly move to Austria and buy one).

>>134520343
Thanks.

>>134520802
Why do you visit Canada every time you make this stupid thread?

>>134513786
>goverment can kill all it's people and still survive without economy
Soldiers with rifles can control people, drones and similiar equipment can only kill people which is against goverment's agenda.
no wonder your country sucks cock

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>>134513786
Right. I mean what would anybody really do if such a scenario arose?

Stupid fucking leaf. Sage

>>134520907
I'm assuming a jammer location can be pin pointed by triangulating the source of the jamming signal, is this right?

>>134516707
go to bed you fucking chink.

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>>134513786

>>134521072
Yes

>>134520822
More answers than you, evidently. I'm not saying you would go shoot some folks if the order came down. I'm confident that most people have the moral integrity to resist that kind of blatant violation of rights. But things are never that simple or obvious. As I said, history has shown us how governments operate, and they've become increasingly efficient at it. It will never be as plain as "kill you neighbor" or "round up everyone's guns". It will sound like a reasonable and common sense thing to do, considering the extreme circumstances. That's the danger, and that's why we must be vigilant.

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>>134521083

>>134521003
KEK

>>134520907
What you say is Sad But True,
And most depressing is fact that the Polish deceased president started the whole EU army topic, and was pressing for it ( but he died, karma ), and now we are step by step disassembled as a nations.

>>134520773
Well, of course I'm just asking for informational purposes only :)
Just curious.

>>134516707
Then you would be the king of your ash pile.

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>>134521126

>>134520903

They do thats why coalition has fighter jets bombing it now. If you go onto hidden wiki and the "darkweb" so to speak you can learn how to build a signal jammer. ISIS use signal jammer to block radio signals used for long range transmission i.e the kind youd expect from a command centre updating ground forces. Mosul had a signal jammer over it and so does raqqa thats why the gov dont just go do surveillance on raqqa and bomb the terrorists at their main base

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>>134521195

>>134516667
>and then returns to their base to find it's been overrun, looted, torched, bulldozed, graded, compacted, tamped, and repaved into a large, yet lumpy, parking lot. Including the on-base housing where dependents used to live, back when they were alive. Shit gets a little different when you don't have an ocean separating the battle area from your safe rear areas.

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>>134521234
>>134521195
>>134521126
>>134521083
>>134513786
If the U.S population was all white you would have a crime rate lower than Canada or Finland fuckin lmao

>>134521374
*murder rate

>>134516715
>You will simply be shredded by an apache helicopter or blown to bits by a predator missile strike.

Whose pilots will return from the mission to find their housing burnt to the foundations. With families inside. That makes it real hard to get the next guy to launch on a strike mission.

>>134516881
His Canadian what?

>>134516381
>conservatives
>distrusting government

Conservatives love big government as much as liberals

>>134513786
I own a truck and lots of fertiliser

>>134516715
Grow some balls. The people of the United States, as pussified as we are made, could easily resist and defeat our own military if it came down to it.

People would die, sure. But it would be a bloody war that the Government can't possibly win.

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>>134513786
>AR15
>self defense
No no no, thats what this is for

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>>134521374
>no matter what they do their homicide rate will never start with 0.

Feels good to be white.

>>134521186
If you're interested look at this
https://lynxel.com/pl/profesjonalny-zagluszacz-sygnalow-telefonow-radio-lokalizatorow-jammer-2g-gsm-gprs-mms-dcs-3g-wideo-internet-4g-hspa-lte-lojack-gps-l1-uhf-vhf.html
>sorry in polish
Only goverment agencies can buy them

>>134521671
They even admitted that they would get their asses whooped against the public. My exception to this would have to be the liberals.

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>>134513786

>>134516785
>Checkpoints on every road where you have to show your ID to prove you're an American citizen hindering your ability to move within the country freely

They don't have the manpower for that. One of our most popular spectator sports, NASCAR racing, actually evolved from moonshiners avoiding or beating exactly those types of checkpoints. Plus, you grievously underestimate the number of private vehicles in the US. Doing the kind of checkpoints you envision would gridlock this whole country. In other words, playing right into the insurgents' hand.

>>134521726
20W lel

>>134521780
They really had their harambe warfare down (basically trap the shit out of everything, build tunnels where you can (they couldn't gas the tunnels or put fire in them due to the design)).

>>134522212
20w for ~30meters
Imagine 1kW, whole city block blocked like in medieval, no mobiles, no tv, no radio lol

>>134522416
I don't know anything about signal science and that stuff, but I imagine the jamming signal must be kinda like a spam/DOS attack on the airwaves? You just kind of overpower all signals with a massive block noise over all of frequencies?

>>134522416
>imagining what is basically a 1kW microwave (for low GHz-frequencies).
If you boil your neighborhood, drones are their least problem :D

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>>134513786
>I own a musket to defend myself from my governm-

>>134522578
Exactly, sending on frequencies shattered data, noise, gibberish etc, and just overpowering the orginal signal, and receiver just gets broken data

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>>134521684
>I own a grenade launcher to defend myself from my governm-

>>134513786
"haha those hicks can't take down a drone"
>siping your tea and leaning back in your chair waiting for drone to reach striking distance
>the power flashes off
>Your hanger lights up in red singling an attack on the base
"Nani!"
>You begin to hear gun fire
>sounds like .50 caliber but it's been awhile since you were last at the range
>you jump to your feet but quickly have your head yanked down because you left you headphones in after watching anime
"Fuck"
>your laptop is destroyed and your headphones ruined
>no time to cry over split milk
>running towards the door the base commanders second walks in
"Sir"
>"Corporal Anon we're being hit by a collation of local volunteers, preppers and veterans. I need every able body man on this base to rally on the fifth runway in 5 minutes"
"Okay Sir..."
>"Corporal where is your side arm?"
"Ah Sir about that I made a habit of not taking it with me to work"
>"Jesus Chirst Anon we'll have weapons on the strip"
"Aye Sir"
>he quickly glares at you
>he turns around and you see him sprit across runway one to a small garrison
>quickly you run as fast as you can to the other hangers
>but by fast you mean a light jog
>it's been years since you last had to run and you've gained an easy 60lbs since basic
>fuck me
>we should be safe right I'm waiting for the fall season for some new content
>besides we have a division on base right?
>nope you just remember that one was sent to Minnesota to fight off the militias
>they left behind a few platoons but nothing big
>they didn't even have mechanized vehicles
"Ow!"
>you fall to the ground bagging your elbow and palm
>what, oh you tripped over a rock
>you then realize it's about twilight
>holy shit where did the hours go
>the ambient sound of gunfire still in the air you get up and continue the mission

>>134522712
KEK, I wish I could understand the science behind it, it seems like a rather complex but compelling thing.

>>134522790
I own a government and military that doesn't hate their own people.
As for the EU army unless (((America))) helps Serbshit mercs can't afford drones, their weapon is raw brutality and subhumaness.

>>134513786
>"I've never fired a gun before in my life and therefore im an expert on all things fun. Also I voted for a women."

>>134522789
Is it possible then that if the original signal is more powerful than the jammer that the receiver gets the data cleanly, or just the fact that the noise is there is enough to corrupt the original signal?

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Fuck of leftie

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>>134513786
>Why do you need such powerful weapons?
>You're weapons are not powerful enough, so there's not really any need for them.

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>You can't overdose from marijua-

>>134522912
>shit english

>>134522899
You can start from beginning, for learning is never to late,
http://www.just.edu.jo/~nihad/files/mat/591/Jammer%20Final%20Report.pdf
Simple 2g jammer DIY manual :)

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>>134523048

>the jew fears the 16 year old hillbilly

>>134523133
>You win the discussion, because I have no argument left except "you are not a native speaker!"

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>>134523241
>http://www.just.edu.jo
Thanks for the resource Polandbrah!

>>134519477

The cities are are all blue. They would not be part of any American rebellion.
They would be on the government's side and not only worthless but a liability.

All the rebels would have to do is cut power or cut water or cut trade so no food gets in.

The niggers would riot the kikes would flee the spics would Mad Max it but together and kill anyone who is not a spic and any white lib would be slaughtered. Cities are not to be taken by the military. Instead they are a huge liability for the government.

>>134522998
Yeah, but have in mind to corrupt digital data you need only 'bout 15% nosie, in analog is more, don't remember

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>>134516570
>i'm american

>>134523265
>he didn't realize i was shitposting in the first place
/pol/ has gotten a lot more autistic than it was in 2015

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>>134523048
>you will never get Pulitzer Prize for being leftist A. Wyatt Mann

>>134523398
>Pools closed

>>134514261
funny you say that, because local police forces already have tanks at their disposal to raid twitch.tv streamers

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>>134523654
>i am polish and a poor alcoholic

>>134516896
We gave them the guns though..

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>>134523871
T least his country is cucked to Sweden levels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2X4TDzUvxs

>>134523927
>says the country who made brazil, monkey nigger capital of the world

>>134523871
Lurk moar leafcuck.

>>134523993
ummmm i've been on 4chan since 2016

>>134524022
>>134523966
twice digits suck my dick

>>134524055
THREE FUCKING TIMES

>>134516667
>one day goverment workers drip their kids off at daycare
>next day they are scraping bone fragments off the walls

Reactionaries are unpredictable and strike large.

>>134523927
It's pointless to start a discussion with a retard ( I humbly apologize: ''special person'' )

>>134524064
Drink a bottle of maple syrup and die, newfag.

The Vietnam war was a massive war because it showed the world a lot of things. Obviously, we know what happens when a group of illiterate peasants are willing to die for independence. It also showed how little fucks the US gives about killing noncombatants who may or may not be rebel sympathizers. If civil war ever erupted, we risk something like this happening to us as well.
>US squad of 20-22 men enter South Vietnamese village
>Lieutenant orders squad to kill everyone in there to make sure no Viet Cong ambush them
>US soldiers mindlessly obey.
>They kill everyone and everything. Men, women, children, and infants.
>3 of them object, and try to save the villagers.
>When they return, they're declared traitors to America
>Only the lieutenant was prosecuted.
>He got 3.5 years of house arrest as punishment
These 22 men killed 347-503 unarmed civilians in a few short minutes. If just half of those peasants had a gun, we wouldn't have a tragedy as horrible as this. If shit hit the fan, military will not protect us. They will not defect to your side. They will mindlessly obey their superiors as they mow down a faceless crowd. That's why we need guns.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

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>>134524064

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>>134524064
A

>>134524064
So it's time to turn 360° and moonwalk the fuck outa thread fucking broonie mindboogled fuckwit

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>>134524064
FUCKING

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>>134524064
LEAF

>>134524176
"der die das" is not looking so bad all of the sudden, huh? :^)

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>>134524111
Nice digits

why is my country full of such retarded people... I mean I know it was specifically targeted with the multikulti propaganda and the pedo kult since the 60's, but seriously, what they fuck?

On behalf of this retarded OP I would apologize, but I think being too polite as being literally the only defining characteristic needs to go up here.

>>134519219
>>134518776
All the more reason why the 2nd amendment should not and cannot ever be infringed if we wanna stay free. Any attack on the right to bear arms is an opportunistic entry point for tyranny and the left has been chipping away from all sides. Whenever they can't get at our guns, they try to go after our minds with their emotional hysterics over "mass shootings" and other acts of violence involving guns, which not coincidentally, are overwhelmingly committed by a majority of liberal supporters (blacks commit like 60-70% of all gun crimes and guess which party they always vote for?).

>>134513786
>1: The government wouldn't use drone strikes against their own people, for the reasons that it isn't cost-effective and would lead to collateral damage (particularly in cities)
>2: It would be much cheaper and more effective to send soldiers into cities on-foot, though most soldiers would be against this since the military, surprisingly, are highly patriotic and care about their countrymen.
>3: Vietnam

>>134514261
The government could just say you belong to a domestic terrorist organization. Once you kill a police man or military guy in self defense they will plaster the guys face on the news for weeks legitimizing their claim that you are a terrorist.

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>>134524123
>he thinks a newfag can harvest (yous) like this
um maybe you're the one who should lurk more

>>134513786
Didn't worked against Taliban or rice Farmer, why should be the us government successful against corn syrupy burgers?

>>134518245
>Yet all the drones in the world have yet to stop any middle eastern insurgency using 40 year old Soviet weapons.

That's because they are strict on "war crimes" now. The Jihadists hide behind schools or hospitals using sandnigger kids as their meat sheilds, in a perfect world you would be able to glass the hospital and kill as many civilians necessary to achieve your goals.

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>>134513786
Leafs think everything is free huh, you can't just predator missile every fuckky who doesn't follow the law you stupid autistic retard. We don't need a reason for owning weapons, it's in the goddamn constitution for christ sake. Learn freedom before you come back here you commie faggot.

>>134524644
says king of the oceans years ago, who is now king of the cucks
>brittania rules the sea
suck my dick canada is better than UK ok

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>>134524632
>harvest (yous)
so you don't come here to learn anything? just to get a reaction from stranger online? wow, great for you mate

>>134524696
*airstrikes you*

>>134513786
>>I own an AR-15 rifle to defend myself from my governm-
drones have to land somewhere, amirite?

>>134513786
that's not really the reason people own guns in that fucked up country

it's a statement of principle, a finger to the govt. The idea counts, not the gun. Which is why they ought to insist on their right to have one.
Every idiot knows it's no use against the US army.

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>>134513786
I own an ied now what?

>>134524756
gimme an argument for why Americans shouldn't be allowed to own weapons

>>134524815
black people

>>134524804
Ever heard of op-sec?

>>134519706
>>134519451
>>134520455

This.

/pol/ is beyond delusional. I can't believe they forgot about the Bundy standoff which happened just 3 years ago. EVERYONE was against them, the cops killed them and no revolution happened, no "muh police and military standing up for the common man" shit, none of that.

>>134524845
If we banned guns niggers won't give a shit. Rape is against the law after all.

The party of Dylan Roof is ready to defend its guns.

>>134524892
um i'm black and american and i would give a shit. i like my guns

>>134524804
Hope you're using some private vpn in shithole, ( TOR is infiltrated by FBI )

>>134524754
This. "Harvesting (you)s" as if this was some kind of archivement is r*ddit mindset.

>>134513786
You know that almost all the guys who actually design, manufacture and support those things are hard right gun owners.

>>134524935
Mhmm, black,
Mhmmm, please come to MY country I'll personally beat the crap out of you at Arrivals gates

>>134525019
You have to pay a few $ as a cut to some parasitic agency (ATF maybe) for his "destructive device".
Apart from that many US states are cool with you owning and making IEDs.

>>134525109
Forgot,
>I'm not racist
>For punching a gypsy woman in face feew times ,some time ago, police fined me 500pln / 120bucks

>>134525109
fight me vodka nigger

>>134525292
Try your best negro cottonpicker

>>134518776
>a fighter jet cannot kick down your door
knowing what our government does in the middle east, i think jets would be doing more than kicking

>>134525407
*pffllrlrrrtttttt*

oh yes my dear

>>134525109

ummm racist and sexist much?

>>134525525
get out of my country you fucking nigger

>>134525561
no

>>134524504
Yes, it can say that. But not a whole grassroots movement. Then the narrative doesn't work.

Invading a country armed to the teeth is a sure way to have numerous and costly kia's. And you can't simply drone everyone.

>>134513786
Herro !

>>134525199
That's not the second amendment you fucking retard

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>>134525250
>For punching a gypsy woman in face feew times
Story time pls? kek

>>134525433
Typisch untermensch,
Thankfully I live in normal contry in europe, and don't have flaps on my eyes.

>>134525710
>contry
>polish grammar

>>134525547
Not racist, living few years in uk get used to other ethnicities, honestly I did befriended a dude from jamaica, he speak with that silly american accent lol.
As for gender, I'm conservative, marriage is F+M, only. Also what they are doing in their homes don't bother me, it's their business, so I do tolerate LGBT, but don't like it

>>134526001
marraige should be M + FtM only

>>134525582
>But not a whole grassroots movement.

You know there have been 20+ "grassroots movements" that were successfully branded as domestic terrorist groups in America then stamped out, right? What makes yours different than theirs?

>>134526039
wtf I love niggers now. Nevermind what I said earlier you can stay only if you are FtM and provide pics of boipucci.

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>>134525731
If you type on phone idiot, misspellings happens

>>134524804
Which explosive?

>>134517228
Leo Gold: Don’t believe me? It’s all in the numbers. For a hundred years, there’s been a conspiracy of plutocrats against ordinary people.
JC Denton: Do you have a single fact to back that up?
Leo Gold: Number one: In 1945, corporations paid 50 percent of federal taxes. Now they pay about 5 percent. Number two: in 1900, 90 percent of Americans were self-employed; now it’s about two percent.
JC Denton: So?
Leo Gold: It’s called consolidation. Strengthen governments and corporations, weaken individuals. With taxes, this can be done imperceptibly over time.

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>>134516570

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>>134523048

Liberals shouldn't be allowed to vote.

>>134513786
We are keeping the right to own firearms, you useless parakeet.

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>>134526112
>phoneposter

>>134526297

Also, although the plane may not be subject to the rounds from an M-14, the operator is.

>>134526261
cause he's a jew

>>134524887
>the cops killed them
You may be thinking of last year's Malheur Wildlife Refuge standoff, which was the one I was talking about. Only LaVoy Finicum was killed there, nobody died at the 2014 Bundy Ranch standoff. Either way, if it did come to a shootout, the national guard would have gladly stepped in if the police couldn't handle it.

It's a sad state of faggotry when nu/pol/ can't even remember a happening that happened only a year ago.

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>>134513786

Oh you think it's the government I am worried about at this point with Trump in office.

That's quaint.

Pic related one of mom and dad's prodigal little tykes at G20.

>implying that a civil war wouldn't be sold as 'ebin gommies addagging muh gonstitution :DDD'
>implying that wouldn't mobilise every oathkeeper cuck and murica f yeah soldier against the insurgency

Everything you think is meant to fight terrorists is really meant to oppress Americans. The whole war on terrorism is fake. There are no terrorists, just CIA. There's gotta be a good reason the elites aren't working harder to stop us from having guns. They have probably diverted enough tech that guns won't be effective anymore. Texas is going to be sooo disappointed when they learn they wasted all their time being proud instead of upgrading their weapons.

>>134513786
Drones are exponentially more expensive then volunteer rifle militia. Besides the fact that the infrastructure and work force that makes your superior weapons is literally rising up against you, taking your ability to resupply with them.

>>134516570
kek

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>>134526199

>>134526533
>more worried about effete college intelligentsia than a bloated and malevolent bureaucracy with a meme president temporarily at its head

>>134526587
In Europe you don't really need drones because you have millions of niggers and leftists to slaughter and rape the native population.
It's much worse in the US.

>>134526422
at what distance from the ground does that fly? wouldn't a few rounds damage it enough to take it down, or is it to small/tough?

>>134525708
Be my guest, Portuguesebro
Was waiting for wife on a shopping mall parking.
>Suddenly, from nowhere a gypsy guy appeared
>Knock, knock in window
I ask him wtf he wanted.
> me sell chep perfume chep, good, buy original lactose adidas.
>fakes as fuck, rid of him with few invectives.
>60sec later I see in rear mirror that a gypsy kid is doing something to my rear bumper. Get pissed, stepped outa car and grab him.
>gypsy moma appeared and yells at me.
In the mean time passersby started to watch whole spectacle
>culturally told her that her litle turd was doing something to my car.
>she starts yelling at me in her roma shit.
>waifu appeared, starts yelling on her.
> spectators are cheering
>gypsy moma grabs my wife jacket, her mistake.
> sold her at least 5 straight punches in face.
> fuck, shopping mall security was watching in crowd
> police came, fined me
Fin.
Yes it was worth those 120 bucks

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>>134525688
Got it

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>>134526846
Totally worth the 120 bucks, lol

>>134513786
this is why i always looked down on american 'muh gunz' threads
its just low effort, any tyrone can go and buy himself a gun in burgerland

if you are any serious about this whole thingie, you'd be making drones yourself, yeah you read that right, you'd be hitting the books and studying computers and physics and math and whatnot
but you arent serious
you are just a low effort retard doing something literally anyone can do

if those anti government americans took themselves seriously, they'd have a comparatively serious arsenal
but they dont
they just slide the threads on pol pot historical documentaries website

>>134516557

Look at these very boards and you'll understand. Plenty of anons here talk about killing commies and violent revolution and such. It only takes convincing and the right mindset, which the state is excellent at doing. Police and military will shoot protesters of all kinds if they feel they're the ones preserving peace and order, including everyday Americans.

>>134524496
>we
fuck off you aren't american like me

>>134520109
Fucking spawn campers.

>>134513786
>a cruise missle is gonna go house to house checking for weapons
>a cruise missle is gonna patrol streets
>a cruise missle doesn't have a human pilot behind it
really makes my noodle skadoodle

>>134516557
how do ARs protect you from bioweapons?

typical ameritard

>>134520109
How do we get ISIS tv? Do they GoPro everything, like terrorist attacks in Germany?

>>134527405
See nigger pull trigger. Easy as that.

>>134527486
'cause niggers are smart enough to engineer bioweapons. ok

>>134520109
What was happening there? I seems like a ISIS convoy got stopped. Whose side was the killed guy on?

>>134527620
No, they ARE the bioweapon of choice this day and age.

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>>134525422
do you have the reading comprehension of a litteral leaf?

>>134527620
>niggers are the bioweapon
also:
>what is NBC warfare protection

>>134527665
that still doesn't protect you from the gov't

>>134527686
i think you do my gay european friend

>>134527772
It does, see >>134522912

>>134526883
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed provided that they register them and they have not been in prison.
Fuck, they're right

>>134527720
>what is NBC warfare protection

doesn't protect you from contaminated food/water

>>134527917
Government here strongly advises having AT LEAST a month worth of food, water and supplies at hand.
Prepping is a national pastime here, pretty much like Switzerland.

>>134518776
>>134517481

Things sure worked out for the confederates

>>134528025
a seige is a seige. 1 month is nothing

>>134528137
Found another leaf without reading comprehension.

>>134526053
more guns

>>134527917
>doesn't protect you from contaminated food/water

>what is prepping
>why would gov poison its land?

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>>134528231
These pussy ass lefties are defeatist so they just go on and on about this and that so their misery is not alone. Nothing can guarantee your survival when SHTF, but you can raise those odds from 0 to a very substancial number with the right preparation (physical, logistical and psychological).

>>134528231
>another retard who doesn't understand strategy

>>134528683
>implying it would need to poison the land

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>>134514261
>drone strikes us citizens abroad because muh war on terror
>nobody complains but leftists

>>134517078
>if the government even entertains the idea of using it's military on it's own citizens in order to reduce constitutional rights
But the U.S. government has already reduced its citizens constitutional rights without firing a single bullet.
>That was the whole purpose of the 9/11 false flag and the global war on terror.

>>134528801
pussies don't need to hug their guns at night like a teddy bear

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>>134513786
I see your drone, and counter with my space blanket.

>>134529014
good point. all it needs to do is declare martial law

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Got you covered pham

>>134513786
There is an academic paper out there that says only 6% rebelling population is required to render a government dysfunctional. It's impossible to fight a war of that scale within your own country, and that's before you consider the percentage of military that may defect.

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>>134516557
>But how many of them are actually going to fire that missile or run over that unarmed protester with their tank?
Autonomous tech is already being implemented by the military.
>Bots have no feels

>>134528801
Maybe this will interest you
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mława_riot
And yes people in Poland hate gypsies

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>>134528919
>talks about biological weapons
>what is NBC protection
>talks about poisoning food and water
>what is prepping and why would gov poison the land
>DURR YOU DON'T NEED TO POISON THE LAND, WAT?

You're a retard mate. Bet you're a commie too.

>>134516358
Most leafs are wilfullly ignorant cucks, sorry. Just be glad you dont have to live
amongst them.

>>134529223
Oh yeah btw there's an academic peer-reviewed paper journal out there that says you're a lying cunt

How would you even measure this

>>134513786
How is it to own AR-15 in leafland anyway and what are the chances Trump will drone strike said leaf gun owner?

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>>134517687
This. Allot of anons think one is anti 2nd simply because one disagrees when they argue their ARs is all that is required to prevent a tyrannical takeover of the government, meanwhile the government is slowly morphing in to one while we all bicker with one another.

>>134513786
I own a microwave and a wall outlet. I can kill a drone

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>>134524854
define it

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>>134524804
Weak bait fed. Quit trying to frame /Pol/, when are you going to arrest all those financial crooks btw.

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>>134529128
That sounds like the final phase.
>Their master plan will near completion when the secret police pops up.

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>>134530417

The same time they actually clean the mob out of Chicago.

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>A single entity defines a forum.
lol

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>>134529022
Leftards:
>Less gov so we can be empowered self reliant and free citizens.
Also leftards:
>More gibs, citizens don't need weapons.

You're going to get culled by your own and by your mudslime pets. And I'll laugh at it :)

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yeah because bombing the shit out of guerilla insurgents has been working out so well for the US in the middle east

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>>134518128
>It has never happened
The U.S. Civil war. What the fuck are you talking about.

>>134529128
Yes, and then what? A military dictatorship that suffocates all innovation and shit. Real winning strategy there you retard...

>>134531052
>yeah because bombing the shit out of guerilla insurgents has been working out so well for the US in the middle east
Language and Cultural barrier. That is a false equivalency.

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>>134529347
Haha, great read, thanks for sharing.

>>134530140
Explain pls

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>>134531387
>A military dictatorship that suffocates all innovation and shit
What is Communist China?
What was the U.S.S.R.?
>Real winning strategy there you retard.
You saying its not a winning strategy doesn't make it so because if you have been paying attention the Elite have been winning and making gains like never before. Gas yourself shill.

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>>134531936
You're the shill you faggot ass idiot. Citizen from the West should all have a right to have weapons.

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>>134532118
Quit projecting bitch I'm not 2nd amendment see>>134517687
>>134530093