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This is it, Anons! Guccifer2.0 docs verified to have evidence

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An analysis by Adam Carter has uncovered verifiable evidence that "Russian tracks" were placed into the already discredited release from Guccifer2.0.
Analysis can be found here:
https://archive.fo/xoyTu

>UPDATES (July 16th)
>Forensicator Updates
>The Forensicator's analysis has opened eyes, got people asking questions and several people have been replicating/validating (and trying to challenge) the findings.
>This, in turn, has given people more confidence on this topic...

Vegas odds-makers are taking bets that this will finally shut the Dems up. The odds are currently at 1,776:1 against.
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This needs to be memed into the public consciousness.
The DNC--Hillary's team--has created an international incident by attempting to frame the Russians for the Guccifer2.0 release.
There's nothing I like more than throwing gasoline onto a bonfire...
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>>134513285
Bump and READ this

Far more credible analysis of DNC hacks than what Crowdstrike provided to the FBI (after DNC turned down repeated requests to allow law enforcement agencies to inspect).

Also shoots holes in the 4 agency (originally "muh 17") "disclaimer" report that was issued in January and is more or less the whole basis for what the media talks about everyday.

Cozy bear my ass you larping CIA nigger fags
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>>134513570
agreed, share and spread on all tech blogs, tech twitter, plebbit, EVERYWHERE
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>>134513285
I'm doing a full read-through now. I'll try to synthesize info.
Reminder I can't bump for several more minutes...
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>>134513901
Da, comrades! It is totally trueski! I swear it upon Mother Russi-er, I mean, upon Mother Rush Limbaugh! Yeah. Mother Rush Limbaugh. That is definitely a real thing.
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>>134513285
BASED DOTCOM!
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>>134513285
*YAWN*
Is anyone else getting sleepy?
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>trying this hard to come up with yet another Russian agent willing to say "it totally wasn't le ruskies, comrades... I mean goys... I mean guys"

It's getting pretty sad. All the sanctions past, present and future on Russia are entirely justified. No one worth his salt in the intelligence community has any doubt that it was a Russian intelligence services operation.
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>>134513285
I don't understand any of this but have a bump
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>>134514769
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>>134514769
CIA nigger spotted
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m8 I am so done with Kim Doctor's attention whoring bullshit
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>>134514815
Just start at the beginning and learn the actual, piece by piece chronology of what happened last summer. Basically Guccifer2.0 WAS the DNC doing preemptive damage control by leaking anti Trump docs and very little else because they knew the REAL DNC wikileaks dump was coming

TLDR Guccifer2.0 was DNC larp to cover their massive fuckup of losing all their e-mails to Wikileaks
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>>134515071

>doctor

Autocorrect reeeeee
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>>134513285
>Guccifer
>again

>trying to prove a negative
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>>134515071
Has literally nothing to do with Kim Dotcom
He just tweeted out the research
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>>134514769
>>134514182
Did we get a fresh shipment of shills?

We churn through you guys fast these days.

How much is the pay now? It used to be $2 per post around the election.
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>>134514815
This, combined with Linkin Parkgate will put Killary and Podesta in jail. Spread the word and GET TO WORK.
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>>134514182
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>>134514434
>>134514479
a-are they okay?
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>>134515402
They went to heaven anon
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>>134513285
teal deer
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>>134514523
anon on KDC
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>>134513285
>normies thought the deep state was just a meme
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>>134513285
this is a really sad attempt at damage control
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>>134515661
explain what you mean. How is setting themselves up to take a fall for causing an international incident regarded as damage control in any reasonable environment?
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>>134513285
>Kim sitcom
This guy said he had something huge a few months ago with hannity, turns out it was literally nothing. Kim is a liar and a fraud. You guys are reaching schizophrenic levels of delusion and I'm sick of it on /pol/.

GET THE FUCK OUT WITH YOUR M BULLSHIT. YOU HAVE NO FUCKING EVIDENCE FOR ANY OF YOUR CLAIMS! GO TO >>>/x/ ALREADY
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>>134515440
Blessed be the Lord Jesus Christ, amen
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>>134515131
if i remember correctly, wasn't Guccifer2.0 actually a handful of people collaborating together, all working for the DNC, and not just one single person?
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>>134515813
You could leave /pol/ and go back to /r/eddit
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>>134515813
Bumpin this thread
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>>134515961
Yeah it was some really poorly conceived plan that they took to weird lengths (accepting a slot "speaking" at some tech conference....like wtf). None of them were russian however. Anyone who reads this research will see that quite clearly
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>>134515813
the linked journal documents the case & evidence. It's the exact opposite of "there is no evidence."
You can even reproduce the results yourself, as many have.
For you slow learners he even re-hashes old evidence, like the first incident reviewer, a security expert Matt Tait, made a rookie error in his initial assessment. That error and his refusal to retract his claim allowed the cultists to propagate their nonsense for over a year now (they don't know it's nonsense, they're brainwashed, but the brainwashers knew it was bullshit.)
The security community has known for a year that Guccifer2.0 assessment that was being quoted was bullshit.
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>>134513285
fresh off the presses. feedback?
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>>134513285
Go, go, gadget bumpomatic!
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>>134516995
...bottom text needs to read: ...created an international* incident
will fix after comment period
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>>134513285
KIM DOT "I HAVE LITERALLY NOTHING BUT MY DESPERATE NEED FOR ATTENTION IN THE MEDIA"
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MOTHERFUCKING BUMP
YOU FAGGOTS BETTER KEEP THIS SHIT UP!!
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>>134513285
Good work they kept trying to shut this down
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final draft. i don't do twitter or other socials, so one of you other faggots have to spread it.
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>>134517850
What this nigger says
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> copied some files locally on a date (july 5) that he couldn't have still been on dnc systems anyway (otherwise that fact alone would blow the official story, making the local-copy nonsense and the transfer-speed nonsense entirely superfluous)
> therefore, dnc did it <---- /pol/

> confuses style rsids with normal rsids
> inefficient workflow
> therefore, dnc did it <---- /pol/

And you idiots wonder why nobody takes you seriously.
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>>134514815
Useful idiot
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>>134513285
Does anyone know who authored the CrowdStrike paper? I'd like to quote the researcher and put the quote on a photo of the guy who fucked up.

>When you consider all of these various facts in aggregate and understand that Guccifer2.0 never demonstrated any genuine hacking skills, realize his actions only ever served to undermine leaks, ultimately caused no harm to the reputation of anyone except himself and needlessly and inexplicably gave the mainstream press fodder on which they could write headlines branding leaks as "fake", "discredited", "tainted by Russia", etc., had some non-hacking means of acquiring the DCCC documents and has had his claims of breaching the DNC network debunked by ThreatConnect. - It becomes clear that Guccifer2.0 did more to serve the interests of the DNC than really act maliciously against it.

My hope would be the CrowdStrike guy gets stopped at conferences and seminars and congratulated on his great research.
>that wasn't actually me, that was Adam Carter.
>I was the one who fucked it all up to begin with.
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>>134517964
>Good work they kept trying to shut this down
No they weren't. It will be debunked with gusto the moment the nonsense dares to enter the wider technical community.
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>>134519209
this is solid work. it's being hidden from you cultists. give it a read.
https://archive.fo/AjOmd
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>>134514182
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>>134513285
Bump
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>>134514523
his head looks like a chicken nugger.
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There are a lot of computer morons here with no security/forensic experience who don't understand the vast difference in quality between the analyses of CrowdStrike/SecureWorks/ThreatConnect/etc. and this non sequitur garbage.

I've seen only one analysis posted here of first-rate quality and conceded a possible bad apple among Dem ranks, though that's unrelated to the Russian-hacking angle as such.
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Kim
Mother
Fucking
Dot
Com

Shit thread.
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>>134513285
>Kim Dotcom
this is utter garbage
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Let me stress this point:

>copied some files locally on a date (july 5) that he couldn't have still been on dnc systems anyway (otherwise that fact alone would blow the official story, making the local-copy nonsense and the transfer-speed nonsense entirely superfluous)
> therefore, dnc did it <---- /pol/

This followed from not even understanding the strict chronology of events that the official story offers, otherwise the stronger claim would be "HOW DID HE COPY FILES FROM THE DNC ON JULY 5?! YOU SAID HE WAS KICKED OFF BY MID-JUNE!"
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>>134515071
this

>>134515159
"the research" wow, one dubious report from some nobody, Kim Dotcom is worse than t_d

>>134519563
this
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>>134519783
you wouldn't be here if that were true, shill.
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>>134519893
>that file
wow, you outed yourself you corporate shill
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To be fair, this isn't Kim Dotcom's work. He's just linking to it. But it's not a convincing analysis--not even close--and I've been open-minded, giving credit where it's due.

I actually work in infosec. You can call me a shill because of my flag, but I'm only telling you the first thing you're going to hear in the unlikely event you get this attention from the infosec community.
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>>134514182
kys
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>>134517067
>>134517067

thats a new one

upboating this
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>>134514769
CIA NIGGER
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>>134520172
>no evidence presented, nothing cited
nice work, faggot. you'll never amount to anything, let alone someone with even a base level understanding of infosec.
But, I'm willing to give you a chance. Care to attach your reputation to your bold proclamation? or is that beyond your comfort level?
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Remember when this guy claimed he had Hillary's emails and started a countdown timer and got everyone all excited. Then when the clock struck zero he tweeting "I don't have them but I know where they are, they're on the NSA supercomputer along with everyone else's emails!"
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>>134513285
Not really new stuff, but decent. Assange was plugging the g2-space site for quite a while. The shill controversy over this is adorable.
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>>134520534
I just told you about the evidence, you dummy. If Guccifer 2.0 had been transferring files from the DNC on July 5, that alone would blow the Dem story out of the water and all this transfer-speed/local-copy bullshit would be entirely unnecessary. That's because Guccifer 2.0 was supposed to out of DNC systems by mid-June.

The reason this mtime garbage is never going to be taken seriously is that, by the same argument, the files on my home LAN weren't downloaded from the Internet (they were).

INB4 STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND PHONE NUMBER OR YOU'RE A SHILL.
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>>134520654
that was a reasonable quasi-bluff, imo.
and he's also correct.
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>>134520654
It's not Kim Dotcom's work, though. Let's be clear on that. It's a sincere attempt at analysis, but it's flawed.
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>>134520883
Yeah but if I believe the larp hard enough and rewrite all of history, i can call kim a liar.
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>>134520860
>files from the DNC on July 5
yes but you made that date up. and backed it with no evidence.
but submit it to Carter and I'm sure he'll adjust the record.
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>>134514182

You progressive faggots have lost all sense of humor. You guys are not funny anymore.

Anybody with an IQ of 90 can clearly see MSM pushing an agenda here. What truth there was to the "Russian narrative" has been totally bastardized by you progressives.
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>>134521016
It's the baseline mtime date in the Forensicator NGP VAN analysis, you ignoramus. Do you even read these analyses posted, or do you just like the sound of them?

As for the other analysis, it's a gross non sequitur leaping from an inefficient workflow to "DNC did it!"
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>>134513285
fuck Kim Dot Com. the guy has no credibility. >hyped up that he would release the Clinton emails, deadline passed and nothing came of it
>hyped that he had information on Seth Rich murder, even got Sean Hannity to hype this, nothing came from it.
guy is a fucking hack
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>>134521240
>fuck Kim Dot Com. the guy has no credibility.
It's not his work, though. It's actually a sincere analysis but misguided -- or at least overly generous in its conclusions.
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>>134521160
Release date isn't the creation date.
https://archive.fo/K7oxw
>New meta-analysis has emerged from a document published today by an independent researcher known as The Forensicator, which suggests that files eventually published by the Guccifer 2.0 persona were likely initially downloaded by a person with physical access to a computer possibly connected to the internal DNC network. The individual most likely used a USB drive to copy the information. The groundbreaking new analysis irrevocably destroys the Russian hacking narrative, and calls the actions of Crowdstrike and the DNC into question.
What are you on?
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>>134521348
Do you even know that the local-copy/transfer-speed analysis is based on a July 5 mtime? Jeezus fucking Christ.
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>>134515173
i could use some side income. do they still recruit over craigslist?
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>>134521313
all I am saying is his reputation is shit and I wouldn't source him on here or anywhere
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>>134515131
This. Stop acting like downies plebbit. Fucking retards.
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>>134521439
No, because as I pointed out, you're fucking terrible as your claimed profession.
Lay out your case, faggot. What exactly are you claiming that breaks from the massively peer-reviewed analysis?

>>134521444
see
>>134515543
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>>134521444
There's a chance his posting it will motivate actual infosec guys to finally look at the analysis and put all this nonsense out of its misery, but I'd understand if they just ignore him at this point as a self-promoting LARPer.
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>>134514182
Do you write for Colbert, Meyers, or Maddow?
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>>134521622
"Peer-reviewed analysis" LOL
You don't even understand the basic facts of the case.
Tell me what you know about timestamps on Windows and Unix-like systems.
Tell me about the format of the mtime in a RAR 4 header and in which structure extended mtime information can be found.
I'll wait.
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>>134517998

I got you. Any # in particular?
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>>134521781

If you could explain all of this for people who do not understand, then maybe you would get a better response. I have heard people as equally arrogant as you be completely full of shit when it is all explained. Bravado and a competency in computers does not mean you are right. If this is a bunch of BS, even folks like me who are totally against your bullshit agenda want to know the truth.
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>>134521781
You really suck at this. He's asking you simple questions and you're trying to pop quiz him instead of answering.

It reeks of incompetence.
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>>134519563
>unironic dem posting.
first off why?

Second off what work has CS done exactly? Besides run interference for the DNC by acting as an intermediary to make sure the FBI never got a hold of the dnc's server.

The only report ive read from crowdstrike that confirmed anything was that "Russian" software was used by whoever breached the DNC's email server and you and I both know that means complete fuckall.
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>>134519209
>wider technical community
silicon valley or some shit? the wider tech community is right here, and if you really need confirmation, check out /g/

if you aren't capable of doing it yourself, you probably shouldn't come here anymore.
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>>134522068
He doesn't actually know anything.

Keep cornering him and he'll disappear. These are the WhereIsAssange people. I smell them a mile away.
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>>134522225

Man that subreddit went to shit fast. Anybody even talking about the blockchain investigation was banned and ridiculed beyond belief. They had some really creepy mods as well. There was this one female mod who was the perfect example of a harpy.
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>>134521781
sheesh, im not even sure.. stat()?
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>>134521970
I answered, you flaming retard, but he doesn't understand my answer, so I'm finding out why that is.

The local-copy/transfer-speed analysis is based on a July 5 mtime. For it to be at all damning, it has to suppose that the official narrative has such files being transferred directly from the DNC to a separate system on July 5. The official narrative has never claimed this -- if it DID claim the files were transferred on that date directly from the DNC, that would contradict earlier statements and would alone blow their official story without any need for further forensic analysis.

So what's really going on is nothing more than "local copies made, therefore done at the DNC!" as if nobody ever moves files around that they have in their possession.
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>>134513285
give me
q u i c k r u n d o w n
on guccifer
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>>134522068
WRONG!!!
We already know that any carpenter who uses a russian produced hammer could be a russian spy.
And by could me i mean almost certainly.
Thats just common sense.
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>>134522385
It was a psyop. A really high effort one. We went into election night with half the community wondering if WL was compromised. Obvious motivation.

And they're here again with their same incompetent jargon shit. It's coming.
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>>134521667
I never claimed to the be the professional, you did.
I linked the stories and the research, you didn't.
You made documented claims that match the narrative expressed by the researcher, and then proceeded to pretend you had exposed some fatal flaw in his reasoning. That's not the behavior of an expert.

>>134522225
Your nose is broken. Stop using it until you can figure out wtf the problem with it is.

>>134521802
Your call, anon.
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>>134522472
Ok now cite all the bullshit claims you made as inferences from the SUPER CREDIBLE CS REPORT.

you're a fucking child. And a stupid one.
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>>134522393
Wow, quite a delay there. Quickly now. How would you call it on a file named "pol" with the address of a stat structure named "s" and then print its ctime.
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>>134522688
We'll see.

Good luck getting to the bottom of his claims you Fucking tard.
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>>134522742
You're nothing but bluff.
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>>134522857
Lmfao!!!!!
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> local copies made
> therefore done at the dnc

That really is the argument being made, but 4/pol/ idiots think it's something grander than that.
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>>134515256
Kek

If Linkin Parkgate doesn't make you laugh, you're not smoking enough pot
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>>134522795
How fucking retarded are you?
I never claimed to be the professional, you did.
You still haven't told us why you cited the accepted narrative as disproving the accepted narrative.
The information you mention is included in Carter's Report: you are (per your own, unproven claim because your a massive faggot) contributing to the peer review.
Now prove you're in infosec. You made the claim, back it the fuck up, nigger.
Bonus points for attaching your professional reputation to your discovery (you won't, you're a cowardly piece of shill.)
You won't, you're a fucking fraud.
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>>134522795
>say im not sure
>get asked harder question
this is not positive environment conducive to learning


also, 8 minutes isn't all that long. i typically have multiple threads open, as im sure most of us do.

but thanks for explaining regardless, dick
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>>134523278
yea I was just checking the catalog for interesting posts. this faggot isn't anon. he's just some bullshit cultist shill here to recruit other zombies. fuck him.
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>>134523334
Apology accepted. Faggot.
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>>134523700
you're what, a janitor as symantec having a fucking laugh?
let's see your infosec proof. you either know how it works here, or you need to get back to your 2 years lurking probationary period.
We just don't want your cultist bullshit. if we wanted to know your opinion we'd go straight to your owners website and get it direct from the source. If you have an idea on why he's wrong send it to him; you know as well as I do that he'd update the page.
but you're full of shit.
tai64n > *
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>>134522688

Circulating multi #'s
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>>134523209
"Give me your name." Really?

I'll try clearing the air for you and give credit where it's due, but I'm not convinced you're operating in good faith. Here are the two relevant analyses:

1. The g-2.space Word metadata analysis. The most this proves is inefficient workflow and sloppiness on the part of supposed state-level actors, but we already knew about their sloppiness, and yes, I do think that raises some questions worth answering. It doesn't at all prove DNC actions, and it dismisses the link between Guccifer 2.0 and dcleaks.com way too fucking conveniently, but it's forced to do so because it's invested in the DNC theory.

2. The Forensicator NGP VAN metadata analysis of the 7z archive and enclosed RAR archives. This, after you strip away all the fancy footwork, amounts to "local copies made, therefore DNC did it." But nobody is claiming that remote copies were made on July 5 -- that's a total strawman, and if the DNC ever said that, they could be nailed immediately because they also claim the hackers were out of the system by mid-June. You wouldn't need all this fancy footwork -- the date alone would be enough. There is, however, an interesting finding: The RAR files were indeed created on a machine in the EDT time zone. It's worth keeping in mind, but if you give only that to infosec professionals, they're just going to claim that hackers have machines all over the world.
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>>134513570
> framing one of the most dangerous countries in the world and your biggest rival
Its like they want a sorld war
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>>134524146
>2. The Forensicator NGP VAN metadata analysis of the 7z archive and enclosed RAR archives. This, after you strip away all the fancy footwork, amounts to "local copies made, therefore DNC did it." But nobody is claiming that remote copies were made on July 5 -- that's a total strawman, and if the DNC ever said that, they could be nailed immediately because they also claim the hackers were out of the system by mid-June. You wouldn't need all this fancy footwork -- the date alone would be enough. There is, however, an interesting finding: The RAR files were indeed created on a machine in the EDT time zone. It's worth keeping in mind, but if you give only that to infosec professionals, they're just going to claim that hackers have machines all over the world.

And BTW, that's assuming the transfer-speed claims are sound, which I'm happy to grant for the sake of argument because, if sound, it still ultimately just amounts to "local copies, therefore DNC."
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>>134524146
>The RAR files were indeed created on a machine in the EDT time zone.

That's also something I'm willing to grant for the sake of argument, even though such timestamp metadata can be trivially forged. It would only be a smoking gun if the only computers in the EDT time zone were DNC computers.
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>>134513285
bump
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>>134515543
i dont believe any of this shit. kim is a demoralization agent. he said one thing that came true, ever, and it was that Assange was going to be Hillary's worst nightmare during the upcoming election. EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN HYPED UP NOTHING. he said hillarys missing emails would be released, they werent. he almost got hannity fired by saying he had proof the DNC killed him. never released any type of proof.

fuck him. im not letting this fat idiot fool me a third time.
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>>134513285
HNWSR
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>>134525616
This. I hope kimdotfat ends up in gitmo and I've never said that about anyone.
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they will get well soon
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