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Democracy dies in Poland

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Jarosław Kaczyński, the leader of PiS is slowly tranforming Poland into an authoritarian catholic nationalist state.

>Took control of the army and sacked generals who did not show loyalty
>Created a paramilitary army of "patriotic groups", basically arming those who support him
>Currently purging the judiciary
>Purged all state media and brought them under direct control of his government
>Began the process of "polenisation", which is forcing foreign companies to be bought out by Polish ones
>Raised taxes on banks
>Gave out the so-called 500+ which gives married couples 500 for each child they have causing a rise in births in Poland
>Told opposition MPs he intends to put them on trial for treason, when there was denouncements, he doubled down on it, insisting it was justice
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Good.
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>>134500686
Good, you guys got a leader who wants to Protect Poland from what is happening to your West.
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>>134500788

Not good, GREAT.
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>>134500686
>Began the process of "polenisation", which is forcing foreign companies to be bought out by Polish ones
>Raised taxes on banks
>Gave out the so-called 500+ which gives married couples 500 for each child they have causing a rise in births in Poland
I can understand your problems with the other ones but what's wrong with these?
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>>134500686
POLAND, NO!
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f
prepare for samson
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>>134501001
Not great, FANTASTIC.
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>>134500788
>>134500843
>>134501001
>the government vows to uphold "social justice", class equality
>social spending risen through the roof at the cost of national debt
>more and more taxes planned to be introduced every week
>nationalization of private businesses begins
>suspicious laws introduced in night sessions
>administrative tricks used to desperately show the government isn't bleeding money
>massive money transfers to a particular priest
poland = turkey + venezuela
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>>134501815
Not fantastic, OUTSTANDING
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>>134500788
>>134500843
>>134501698
>>134501804
>>134501804
>>134501815
You guys do not understand. PiS wants to take complete control of society and rebuild it in the image they want under iron boot of the state.
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>>134501865
Do not give a fuck. I would rather eat rats to survive like a hue hue in Venezuela than not have a secure future for my people. If he raped babies, it would be tolerable.

Democracy is the most evil form of government and must be purged from the Earth.
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>>134502039
>PiS wants to take complete control of society and rebuild it in the image they want under iron boot of the state.
welcome to any government ever
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>>134500686
Poland is doing great currently, and is an example to Europe
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>>134502031

Not fantastic, it's GLORIOUS.
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>>134502039
I'm hard
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>>134500686
I don't really see any problem with that.
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>>134500686
>>Democracy dies in Poland
>implying this is a bad thing
kill the EU please
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>>134502039

Poland was a victim of the Germans, the Communists, denied real help by the allies that started the war for Poland and now is in the process of not being buried by globalized fuckery. Whats wrong with that?
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>>134501865
>nationalized public healthcare (shitty)
>nationalized coal mines (gigantic money sinkhole - it's more cost effective to import coal from australia than use our own)
>plans to build nuclear plant torpedoed
>army practically dismantled through political purges
>special forces too
>government forbids selling land (churches exempted)
>25 years in prison for tax evasion, 10 years for murder
>still no helicopters
>cucked by trump into paying more for us gas than its worth
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>>134500686
Democracy a shit
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>>134502104
i agree about democracy, but i'm willing to bet you're not anarchocapitalist.
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>>134500686
God bless Poland!
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>>134502425
Holy fuck is that what average polish girls look like?
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>>134502456
>minister of defence heavily implicated to be a russian agent
>communists still rule from the shadows
>giant amount of money transfers to israel
>kaczynski told le pen that poland is not leaving the eu
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>>134500686

I used to think that there was no other country on Earth that I would've rather been born in... but damn if Poland isn't making me seriously reconsider that.
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>>134503016
thank fuck you weren't born in Australia because unfortunately we are full
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>>134502895
dis true?
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>>134500686

Did you mean "POcracy dies in Poland?"

Let me guess, you are no longer able to cheat on VAT, aren't you?
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How is this bad? Democracy is a fucking joke.
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>>134500686
This is the simplistic version including buzzwords like nationalism that will gain traction on /pol/.

The guy is a coward, he has concentrated so much power in his own hands, but won't use it for good like Trump is doing. Rather than use his position to pass unpopular reforms that this country desperately needs, he is focusing on bread and circus: a great big political theatre and welfare increases to buy votes.

What did he pass though? Higher taxes, increased deficit spending, economic central planning, banned citizens from buying/selling land to each other, tightened regulations on small businesses, loosely redefined tax evasion to fine more people, and he even accepted unlimited migrants in November 2015 after which the people rioted. Is this le based saviour of the white man?

I know that poland is far away and no one cares about us, but stop thinking with your feelings like a god damn liberal. This is another establishment hack who panders to reddit/thedonald users.
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>>134503327
I am against him, he is a fascist.
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>>134503387

I hope he was a real fascist, not a low life populist.

A real fascist is a patriotic man, who cares and deeply love his nation and his people.
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>>134503214
1. http://czytam.pl/k,ks_675499,Macierewicz-i-jego-tajemnice-Piatek-Tomasz-google.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqKOUofeb1QIVkantCh2yAAriEAQYASABEgJ61PD_BwE
2. official statement of the ruling party
3. http://wolnosc24.pl/2017/07/19/polska-bedzie-wyplacac-emerytury-obywatelom-izraela-sejmowe-komisje-poparly-projekt/
4. http://www.standard.net/World/2017/03/13/Poland-repudiates-Le-Pen-s-offer-to-help-it-dismantle-the-EU

“Law & Justice is not interested in dismantling the EU,” Beata Mazurek, the party’s spokeswoman, said on her Twitter account on Monday.

we were all lied to
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>>134503172

Kek. Australia is based. No fag marriage, and the fuck off we're full meme being totally mainstream is awesome.
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Sounds like a good time desu
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>>134503172
Fuck off you cunt. No one wants to be Australian. They all want to be American. Or polish apparently.
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>>134503859
read on americunt. poland's strong nationalism is all a carefully constructed socialst lie

we were all lied to
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>>134500686
Outstanding. The blood of Sobieski and Kosciuszko still flows. Polish patriots will rescue Europa from the Mohammedan lice one more time.
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>>134500686
got room for me and my wife?
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>>134502104
>>134503016
The door is open, you can come live here anytime you want. Oh wait you don't actually want to.

>>134503387
No, he isn't.

>>134503519
Indeed, he is a coward just like the above two american posters. At the end of the day it's all about virtue signalling, saying to poor people what you would do or must be done, while sitting your ass on a cushion.
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Those guys who protest now really hate Poland. Two years ago they were avoiding Polish flag and even red and white (remember chocolate eagle and pink?). They would sell anything including museums, to Germans to have another years of gibs. Working for your country is not shouting on streets.
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>>134504176
wtf i love pis now

Look at this low effort shill. What the fuck is this even supposed to mean?
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>>134503387
He isn't unfortunately, but if you're against fascism these days it means you're with Marxism. There is no middle ground anymore.
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>>134500686
yeah good why the fuck are these threads popping up are we really getting shilled that hard, fuck you OP eat a dick?
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>>134500686
>caring about democracy
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Poland literally becoming Hitler! Excellent news! Soon we'll be reading the news about Poland invading Germany. Glorious times indeed! Poland stonk, Poland superpower! Poland Reich!
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>>134504335
oh he's marxist all right. soon there will be no private enterprise in poland at all

jaroslaw kaczynski doesn't even know how to use a computer. he rules the country now.
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>>134500686
OFFICIAL M.A.G.A THREAD HERE:
>>134504053
>>134504053
>>134504053
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>>134503586
the politicians keep talking about the faggots marrying so i doubt that lasts
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>>134503214
Our defence minister has a similar life story and policy as McCain, and they're both senile. It's like the same person minus the cancer. Both of them being Russian agents would explain a lot.

I can't vouch for the israel part but the rest is true.
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>>134504563
Is he really that bad or is he just bringing Poland further away from the more free capitalism of the post soviet area and towards more of a high taxes welfare state like the nordic countries (without the very high wages).
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>>134500686
>authoritarian
>catholic
>nationalist

I can only get so fucking erect
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>>134504563
But he wants companies to be Polish-owned. What is bad about that? Would you rather have them owned by Germans, Americans, and rootless Jews who influence local politics?
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Poland is a weak and easily exploited country. Totally dependent on the West. Close Lidl and most """"""""Poles""""""" will leck your Arsh.

This is sad truth about Poolish sturdiness.
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>democracy dies

you had me at hello
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>>134504484
Anschluss with Lithuania first, and then...
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>>134502425
if trump loses in 2020 im moving to poland. i'm learning polish now

Nie ma powodu, aby zostać w Ameryce, jeśli pan Trump traci. Jeśli demokraci wygrają Amerykę skończyła się
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>>134500686
Democracy is garbage.

These (((courts))) were just tools for the globalists.
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>>134505164
If you speak Polish and have a grandparent or two great grandparents who speak Polish you can get a permanent residents permit and 2 year fast track to citizenship anon
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>>134500686
LE BASED CATHOLIC TURKEY LEADING US TO LE NEW CRUSADE XD

>>134501865
LE GOMMIE DETECTED

>>134502895
U NO BELIEVE LE TRUMPUTIN POWER GOMMY

>>134502039
LE GOD EMPORER SAVIOR OF MANKIND PRAISE KEK
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>>134505730
>hey guys, are we like Germany yet
Pathetic meme country.
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>>134500686
>tranforming Poland into an authoritarian catholic nationalist state
And the problem is?
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>>134504835
I can feel the humming of cognitive dissonance. It's a good first step back into depressing reality.

>>134504857
>>134506017
>they won't understand until it's too late and the boot of authoritarianism is on their throat
t. Yuri Bezmenov

>>134504877
State-owned is shit tier in every country in the world, let alone post-soviet countries like poland. I bet you think the DMV is bad lmao

Kaczynski has the power to achieve anything without violence, and what he does is a reverse Pinochet. Where do you think this will lead us? Protip: it'll be in the opposite direction as Chile.
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Western gibs created degenerate caste which is detrimental to the further development of the country.

Know who is behind the protests.
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Literally every point is excellent.
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Remind me to keep some of you fuckers in mind when the day of the rope comes. I'm just as willing to put bullets in some of ya as much as the deluded liberal communists. I walk the path of little to no extremism, which will prevail.
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>>134506211
Why don't you answer the fucking question you cunt
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>>134504743
What are you doing about it?
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>>134506501
stage 2: anger
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Unless you want to have it undeveloped.

Tusk did manage to break Polish spirit. Polishness IS abnormality.
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>>134500686

>Raised taxes on banks

What an outrage.
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>>134506475
>wants to put bullets in his political opponents
>not an extremist
Don't kid yourself, faggot. You're EXTREMELY queer.
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>>134506605
What do you think someone in a country ruled by secret services, where anything you say can be construed as an insult or otherwise afoul of the blasphemy, insult, hate speech, and similar laws, which are regularly used, legally and extralegally, to stifle political dissent, can do about anything?
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>>134506771
>"raise taxes on banks in poland, HOW BASED!"
>"raise taxes on banks in America, SOCIALIST BERNOUT KEKS, FUCK OFF"
really tinkles my ol winkle wrinkle
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>>134500788
Hitler digits confirm holocaust 2.0 in Poland
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>>134500686
Poland is doing things I can only dream of happening elsewhere.
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>>134506625
>still not answerging

I'm just genuinely curious and don't know about the subject, just tell me why I'm incorrect instead of being a massive cunt.
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>>134506928

Daily remainder that Poolan is just slightly different from the US.
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>>134506211
>State-owned is shit tier in every country in the world

It worked pretty well in Nazi Germany.
Nationalizing everything took them from being one of the poorest countries in Europe to one of the riches.
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>>134506801
What matters is that my path is right, and yours is wrong. There, extremism is exempt.
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>>134502895
>Macierewicz
>Russian agent

The man is literally the most rabid Russophobe in the entire government, how in the hell can he be a Russian agent when he's blaming the Russians for the 2010 plane crash and calling for an increased presence of NATO troops and missile systems in Poland to make invading Russia easier?

>>134503519
>ties to Semyon Mogilevich, head of Russian mob
>Mogilevich has ties to Kremlin, probably Putin
>so Macierewicz is a Russian agent

I know my co-worker. My co-worker knows someone from a rival business. Therefore, I am working for the rival business. Flawless logic.
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>>134504484
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>>134500686
do you guys take white immigrants
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>>134500686
ABSOLUTELY BASED.
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>>134500686
Meaningless if you're still in the EU and still use fiat.
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>>134500686
good.
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democracy is always destined to die
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>>134500788
That's exactly what I said to myself the second I read OP's post
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And if only cheaters win why would I work at all? This removed Cuckianity too because what God it is who rewards cheaters?
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>>134500686
i fail to see a problem
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>>134504135
Considering I live in fucking Canada where they're almost going to make it a crime to be white I'll gladly take you up on that offer.
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>>134506605
I explain to people why voting for free stuff and going into debt is anti-polish. It's an argument I always lose because I'm clearly not patriotic enough to see that socialism is the answer and you have to make exceptions to the law.

All I can do, really, is leave. Preferably to a country with a second amendment. I'll sit back and watch while l the chains of authoritarianism wrap around applauding pollacks' necks.

What do you, personally, do about leftist violence, kindergarten sex education and gay wedding cakes?
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>>134502039
So long as shitskins are not let in you are winning m8. You have no idea how bad it is to know that you will be a minority own your own lands.
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>>134502431
This
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>>134503818
I went to America on the holidays and it was literally the most deprived shit hole nigger infested place I've ever had the chance to visit. The food was ok though.
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>>134503387
>fascist
>bad thing
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>>134507605
Only country with a second amendment is US. Enjoy living in a soon to be minority white country
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It's so comfy. Commies are literaly losing their shit and screech their commie bullshit about muh democracy just to not be removed for good

Ahh so comfy. Day of the rope soon
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>>134507978
I daresay, it is the Day.
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Is this another case of beaten wife syndrome?

>Poland gets Hitler'd harder than any country in history
>A century later, decides to go full Hitler

Poland is the biggest cuck country in history.
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>>134502104
>reddit spaced 2 fucking lines
>thinks a socialist shithole with a corrupt government and a retarded economy with a currency worth nothing
>the poor are literally throwing jars of shit at the police who "secure future for their people"
whooo WOAH DON'T WE HAVE AN EDGEY ASS SUMMER FAGGOT HOLY SHIT MY COMPUTER DISPLAY HAS BEEN CUT IN HALF
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>>134500686
Yes...yes...YES
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>>134502431
Faggot
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>>134506999
>I'm genuinely curious, please tell me
kek, now you're bargaining. It's by the book.

I could feel cognitive dissonance just by reading your first post. Am I giving you too much credit? You actually believe what you posted?

>>134507184
>be country with the strongest manufacturing base in the the world for over a century
>get cucked by reparations after ww1 so the anglo and the frank can even attempt to compete
>disobey restrictions, go back to baseline of being best in the world
>it just so happened to happen under national socialism which may or may not even count as socialism
well I guess that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that nationalisation always works. Disregard thousands of years of evidence suggesting otherwise
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>>134501610
(((OP))) is a paid shill, our forums are chock-full of them
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>>134500788
fpbp
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>>134503271
So what is the answer?
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"A democracy is a government in the hands of men of low birth, no property, and vulgar employment"
-Aristotle

Read more: http://www.searchquotes.com/Aristotle/Democracy/quotes/#ixzz4nX06xkVJ
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Aristotle > Plato
Now and forever
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>>134500686
how is this bad?
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>>134502227
Not glorious, SCINTILLATING.
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>>134500686
>Jarosław Kaczyński, the leader of PiS is slowly tranforming Poland into an authoritarian catholic nationalist state.

Good.
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>>134500788
FPBP!
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>>134502039
Sounds like Natsoc Germany. Best of luck, Kurwa. My only issue is that your gov't is still anti-gun.
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>>134500686
Sounds like a great blueprint for other Western countries.
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>>134508204
so its just german genetics that give them greatness?
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At what point should we begin to care?

Iran can and sort of intend to conquer the Middle East. Russia might and not going to conquer Eastern Europe. North Koreans, you have heard.

Poland has a limited capability to ruin things around it and no one would care what sort of perversions they cast upon themselves. Declare an Islamic republic, what does it matter.
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>>134500686

>purging the judiciary

The jewdiciary. As in the U.S., kikes have complete control of judgeships and the legal profession. This is the best move that could have been made.
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>>134500686
>raised taxes on banks
>a rise in births in a white country
(((They))) will not be pleased. Godspeed, Jaroslaw.
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How did they do it?
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>>134500686
I don't see one thing wrong with this,

Nu-fags will attack it but they are mentally handicapped so idgaf
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>>134508592
So? Do you want commies to have guns? Are you a commie? The government knows what's best for the people, and the security it provides is more than enough not to get murdered by commies.
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>>134508597
Yes, and tradition. Protestantism plays a big role too. The germans will be the best autists no matter what, at least until they dilute their genes and destroy their culture.

The opposite is true in africa.

>>134508925
Westerners just don't get it m8
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>>134500788
Heiled!
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>>134500686
Why is it that slavs now that they are free still crave for dictatorship so much they reinvent it?
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>>134509029
>9 effort posts by this ID
You sound like a giant shill for the EU
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>>134509029
I'm honestly more worried about how many Polish flags are just buying it hook line and sinker.

Westerners have had stable countries where laws function more or less decently for a long, long time, meanwhile most Eastern Europe countries have had more than one "accumulation of capital" in the past 20-30 years, with various "elites" grabbing what they could and purging whoever they could in the process, and then legitimizing it through writing new laws... and so on. They probably can't even imagine what kind of shit that will turn a country into.

But presumably Poland has had at least the initial grab after communism, and one more grab when things sharply turned to the "EU values", right? So Polish people should have this shit in living memory. Is it just revanchism?
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>>134500686
S to spit on its grave.

>>134507483
America in a nutshell.
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>>134509539
>le fpbp
>everyone who disagrees with me is a nufag
>posts common pepes
>lectures others while behaving like a kid
Please come live in Poland. Neither wit nor grit. You wouldn't last here.

>>134509659
It's terrifying that we've come full circle since the fall of communism and people are already begging for another tsar. It's only been 28 years. I just hope there will be a chance to get my family out of here before it happens.
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>>134508486
Not scintillating, EXTRAVAGENT
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>>134503818
>No one wants to be Australian

Good! coz fuck off we are full.
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>>134510249
Newsflash, polska: democracy is a shit concept. It's only been in existence for a little over 200 years in America, and much less in most other countries, including European countries. Compare that to the millennia of rule from monarchies and similar forms of undemocratic government.

Democracy is NOT the normal way of things. The real redpill is realizing that the entire concept is built on a foundation of sand and doomed to fail. And please don't make this out to be like I'm shilling for Communism, as I am not a Marxist and I do not see Poland's government as going Communist. I think this is black and white bullshit thinking from ancaps and lolbergs who see any sort of state power as communism.
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>>134500788
kys
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Poland, you are just going to have to take one for the team here and be an experiment for the rest of us to watch.

If you succeed, great!

If you fail, oh well, now we know what NOT to try.
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>>134500686
God Bless COLESLAW KACHINMAN
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>>134500686

Cry some more, EUcuck
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>>134500686
>Jarosław Kaczyński, the leader of PiS is slowly tranforming Poland into an authoritarian catholic nationalist state.
oohhh noooo
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>>134500686
>brought state media under control of the state
Lol what
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>>134500686
Nice, democracy is bad!
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>>134502039
> Poland under the iron boot of the state

what else is knew?
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>>134500788
fpbp
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>>134500686
So?
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>>134500686
Liberates top generals to guide the actual Polish army, the people themselves. National army is just a show of force, the real danger is every small village, town, province, region, and the border itself.

Yes the churchfags are retarded, and a mafia.
You should be raiding bro, sink boants n shit.
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>>134500686
IT was a time for purge

next election 68% PIS

new constitution
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>>134500686
good
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Let's hope America is next
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>>134502453
>never got help from anyone
>actual crazy fuck attempts to demolish democracy instead of the guys that want /pol/-like change (Kukiz '15 MPs)
>not one of our EU or otherwise "allies" gives a shit
>"what's wrong with that?"

Fucking flag.
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>>134513019
>ywn live in a 99% white country
FUCK
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>>134502453
>denied real help by the allies
What the fuck are you junglemonkey talking about? The fact that they were allied with England and France turned a local military conflict into a world war!
But of course you wouldn't know anything about that on your side of the world.
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>>134512404

oooo that mask, I like
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>>134512283
this time it's their own iron boots.
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>>134500686
I hope he will success.
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>>134504176
Nah, working for yoir country is shitposting on /pol/. And Solidarity didn't accomplish anything, ot was just an optical illusion. Now, back to jacking off.
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>>134500686

His real surname is Kalkstein be very wary.
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>>134514165
You mad bro? Everybody but you loves the new government. You are a fucking commie. We get that.
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>>134508363
Constitutional monarchy ofcourse
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>>134500686
This man is an extremely patriotic Pole, and Trump could learn something from him.
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This is great news, I hope more European nations do similar things.
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>>134500686
What is the problem?
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What's going on is fucking disgusting and nobody will stop them.
Right now we're fighting for judicial independence. Next thing you know people will get imprisoned for posting le funny memes about the rulling party.
Don't let anyone tell you it's just a little reform - MINISTRY OF JUSTICE WILL EFFECTIVELY HAVE THE POWER TO APPOINT ANY JUDGE. If you don't see a problem with that you're probably a retard.
This is fucking heinous and they will push to it because they know there's no turning back now.
Sadly what the opposition needs is martyrs and it's far too early for them. Current situation may last years or even decades and we don't know how quickly the situation will escalate.
For the first time in my life I'm scared of my own state. That's why I've been on the square two days ago, yesterday and I'll be there today.

Feel free to troll the shit out of me, just had to put it somewhere.
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>>134500686
Eagerly awaiting the impending coup d'etat that shifts Poland from cucky EU democracy into revanchist, authoritarian Falangism
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>>134500686

Yay, this is good, right? What he does is what I enforce and see much of the government as unAmerican and guilty of high treason in certain cases.

Hiel.
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>>134515074

cry more, faggot.
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>>134505164
Anon, your Google Translator is showing.

>>134506294
>Yeah, communists, I mean, Westerners, that is, you know, they just, man, they, the elites, you know?
Communist Manifesto tier bullshit

>>134507605
>free healthcare
>free education
>500zl per child
>hates it

You're either dumb or a hypocrite, anon.

>>134510555
>democracy
>made in america
My fucking sides.

>>134511951
The difference between BBC now, and BBC licking May's dry cunt or it gets shut down.

>>134514049
Yeah, sure, I'm really glad dem allies came in '44 and I have a non-destroyed capital. Thanks for reminding me, Hans!
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>>134515074
>muh rights
>he wants the right to be a degenerate godless mudshit loving faggot who hates his country
anon pls go
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>>134514399
Oh shet time to get the wolfsbane potions
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>>134500686

>Gave out the so-called 500+ which gives married couples 500 for each child they have causing a rise in births in Poland

I'm sorry, but this makes me very fucking suspicious oc you. How is this a bad thing?
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>>134500686
>authoritarian catholic nationalist state
Please stop I can't get any harder.
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>5 days ago
Posts by Polish anons happy about purging the judges, the last of the commies leftover who just elect each other

>3 days ago
Some Polish start to show up acting upset

>Today
Only butthurt Poles

SO judging by the speed of the propaganda and shills, I'm guessing actual poles, antifafags, then proxyfags
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>>134500686
>slowly tranforming Poland into an authoritarian catholic nationalist state.
implying this is somehow a bad thing
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>>134514546
Sure, everybody... Is 37% of voters everybody in the colonies?

>>134515188
Okay, amerifags - mental exercise. Imagine the same kind of power, but wielded by Hillary. The reform opens a can of worms for all sorts of governments to come, of nothing else.
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>>134515421
It's actually the other way around.
And it's not about those judges. Sure, fuck them.
But what PiS is doing is overriding the whole judiciary system. This is fucking scary.
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>>134515496
How hard is it to get citizenship? I'm considering duel citizenship just encase the leftist somehow get back into power here because it'll go to shit fast if they do.
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>>134515659
Football Manager taught me that it's around ~5 years of stay...?
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>>134500686
Good. Christ is king of Poland.
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>>134515228
>"muh rights"

We have more rights than living in a Hobbiton, so we value them.
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>>134515593

>Imagine the same kind of power, but wielded by Hillary

except it's not wielded by Hillary, it's wielded by Jaroslaw and we don't have courts that are packed with communist leftovers
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>>134500686
Now I understand Why Hitler Invaded Poland
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>>134500686
>>Currently purging the judiciary
Oh no, he made Poland work just like German, Netherlands or US!
>>134500686
>>Began the process of "polenisation", which is forcing foreign companies to be bought out by Polish ones
>>Raised taxes on banks
How is that in any way bad? We're just regaining what was sold to foreign capital 30 years ago kek. Also banks are bad.
>>134500686
>>Gave out the so-called 500+ which gives married couples 500 for each child they have causing a rise in births in Poland
This one is pretty shitty though, we need less socialism, not more.
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>Raised taxes on banks
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>>134515789
Read the whole thing. Opinions aside, this is insane amount of power, that might be received by the left if it comes to power, or anyone, really.
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>>134510426
>Not scintillating, REDDIT!
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>>134502265

God damn you're stupid.
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>>134515929

>this is insane amount of power

not in regards to the courts, we've had the same system for years.
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>>134515074
>MINISTRY OF JUSTICE WILL EFFECTIVELY HAVE THE POWER TO APPOINT ANY JUDGE
Good, it will increase the efficiency of government with fighting crime where politics, business and the judiciary system are involved. The rest of sociaty, normal working people, the vast majority of people in Poland will not be harmed. And I really don't care about your feels and crying.
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>>134500686

Literally the only bad thing about Brexit is that it now means I may not be able to move to Poland in the event they actually go full 'Deus Vult'

Good on you Poland.
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>>134500686
if you dislike poland so much i'll gladly trade places with you, come to aids ridden canada my friend
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>>134507483
The American republic will only last until the day the senate realizes they can bribe the public with their own money.
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nah just firing commies
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>>134500788

FPBP
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>>134516004
So your politicians can pick and kick out Supreme Court judges as they want without any procedures?
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>>134500788
>this is exactly what we want
>OP is a chucked shillfaggot
>fpbp
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>>134516017
That's wrong. It will only attract the criminal element to the rulling party like it did in the 30's in Italy.
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FUCK FASCISM
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>>134516004
No, you didn't. The reform gives 51% majority of MPs the ppwer to appoint the Supreme Coirt judges. If it worked like that in the US, every 5 years a different party would call off and appoint their own choice of justices, because handing them resignations straight away is the other change brought by this legislation.
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Oh no! That all sounds terrible Schlomo!
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>>134510426
not scintillating, CRYPTOFASCIST FILTH
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They have the strategic posture of a bowl of cold cereal. Poland uber alles could maybe reconquista Krakow on a dry day.

Nobody cares. Syria was an international war presence compared to Polackistan
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>>134500686
Nice
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>>134516017
Yeah, it will be great for our
>sociaty
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>>134500788(Checked)
Heil Hitler
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>>134500686
>implying Americans on /pol/ will even attempt to read any of that
You're wasting your time, all you're gonna get are edgy replies how it's good that a young democracy dies and still somehow trying to connect the problem to the refugee crisis
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>>134505164
I may have to consider it myself.

My family has roots from there, but we immigrated to Canada like 200 years ago, so my odds of proving anything... yeah right.

I do not want to live in a 3rd world country that puts the rights of every other race ahead of me while destroying my financial prospects and political power in my own fucking country.

Poles you have no idea how good you have it for your population to be homogeneous white.
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>>134516211
You're faggotry is too much
I mean seriously.
What with the flag, and the stupid name?
Oy vey! You couldn't shill harder if you tried.
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>>134500788
fpbp
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>>134508157
kill yourself
kill yourself
kill yourselfffffff
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>>134500788
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>>134507966
czech republic has a 'second amendment' as well

They just put it into their constitution a couple weeks ago.
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>>134516367
Yes, I made the mistake when writing not in my native language. So what? It undermines the meaning of expression?
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Alright /pol/ convince me not to move to Poland
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>>134516395
>implying democracy is good
How bluepilled are you exactly? You need some reactionary redpills.
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>>134502166
Bacla
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>>134500686

https://www.reddit.com/r/poland/comments/6o6gqx/kaczy%C5%84ski_lost_his_mind/dkfdsfa/
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>>134516476
i post on here all the time

im the voice for every libertarian who hates identity politics and "muh race needs 2 survive" faggotry

I'm truthnuking you stooges

I will not stop
cannot be stopped

FUCK YOUR "MUH RACE" COLLECTIVISM
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>>134516582
They're stuck between a rock and a hard place, geopolitically speaking

The entire country would basically be a nuclear wasteland in the event of a war between europe and russia. Just like it was in WW2.

Though if we're talking about the visgrad group, or even intermarrium, they might be able to stand up to it.

I guarantee you the most successful countries over the next 500 years are going to be the ones with the largest white populations remaining.
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>>134500686
>Authoritarian Catholic state
That actually sounds pretty damn nice
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>>134516395

So there are some retards still left in Poland?
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sounds fucking based to me.

whats the odds poland genuinely turns into a white fascist state?
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>>134516634
https://www.reddit.com/r/poland/comments/6ofzh8/poland_fought_for_democracy_and_its_going_to_keep/
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>>134516645
>hates identity politics and "muh race needs 2 survive" faggotry
Low racial consciousness. The only reason I can explain your LARPing is if you are from Europe but to be living in a country founded exclusively by Europeans and soon to become a minority and still pretend everything is ok means you are not ok.
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>>134502895
>minister of defence heavily implicated to be a russian agent
Lel, his Russian connections have been known for decades now. Destroying Polish inteligence forces, purges in the army, cancelled Caracal deal the list goes on. He's even rumored to have attempted a (failed) military coup way back in the early 90ties.

Likely the only reason he avoided jail all this time is because he has some serious "haki" on other major Polish politicians that would destroy their careers if they tried to bring him down.
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>>134516801
About 90% right now I'd say.
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>>134516266
>>134516161

again, that's the price of having commie judges. at least you still have your state tribunal.
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>>134516556
What mistake? You're saying it's good for our
>sociaty
Where's the mistake? Our
>sociaty
is gonna be great thanks to the wise rule of the party. I agree with you.
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>>134500686
>Clerical fascist European ethnostate
Oy vey it's like anudda shoah. Watch as the JIDF turns on the polish proxies.
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>>134515074

> OMG THEY CANT JUST FOLLOW THE WORD OF GOD OMGGGG

Daily reminder that the bible does not contain the word 'democracy'

Time to kill yourself, satanic demon. It's your end.
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>>134500788
My thoughts too. Democracy is a meme that is nothing more than argumentum ad populum. It's really laughable at this point. Cleanthes' mother should have swallowed him.
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>>134516758

Any actual Poles willing to answer?

(I do appreciate your answer even though you're a leaf)
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>>134516885
whatev racist

fuck i hate u
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>>134516002
So easy to identify American spics.

>Muh American dream is a frame of mind not built by any one people

You're wrong spic, America will fall and stay that way unless whites retake their country it is destined to be another latin american shithole. The only reason it isn't is because the (((banks))) haven't decided to let it fall, probably allowing you shitskins to multiply more.

>22 trillion

Winter is coming, :)
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>>134500686
Kaczynski wants second commie-Poland (PRL).
We (people born after 1980) gonna give him second revolution.

Democracy is very fragile in our country. I'm not very interested in politics, but when i hear that our corrupt government want to take over third power (judges) , and clearly the bill that does that breaks constititution, something needs to be done. And i'm gonna have part in it.
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>>134516634
Saw that live on TV. Shit was scary tbfh

Also you could just paste the posts instead of linking to plebbit of all places.
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>>134516893
>commie judges

Average age of our judges is 38. They were 2 when the Martial Law happened, and 10 during first free elections. And all of them have been screened for aconnections to the commies during Lustracja. It's a filler argument.
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>>134517057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHgxOXEQaFU
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>>134516758

retarded, almost the entire EU would be a nuclear wasteland because nukes and nuke defenses are stationed all across central europe in Germany, Romania, France obviously. Russia would have to hit all of those
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>>134517044
What's the question?
The discussion about the 'whiteness' of the country is not the one that applies to monoethnic Poland so there's not really an answer. And also the birth rate is so low the population will be quickly dropping over the next decades.
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>>134501865
Communism/socialism is redpilled. It's what civilized you slavic monkeys, Karl Marx gave you a great gift and you have destroyed it, if this guy brings it back then you are better off.
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>>134513019
I'm truly jealous of that life. Let the rest of us serve as a shining beacon of how not to run a country.
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>>134516758
Being majority white didn't stop Poland from being a backwards shithole for the last 400 years

And from the looks of it, it doesn't seem like the next 100 will be any different.
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>>134517129
I'm there with you bro.
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>>134500788
It's easy to shit from America where you have all the freedoms of speeches and expressions.
I wish Democrats turn your country full-authoritarian so you see how it is.
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>>134517287
Keep your jewish-satanic gift for yourself. We can all witness it's fruits in Canada.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4N0Uq2CPhI
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>>134500686
>Democracy is good meme
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>>134500686
Poland YES!
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>>134517313
Poland was a white shithole amongst a bunch of other white countries.

When it's white poland versus negroized europe it won't even be a fair comparison.
>>
Just a reminder that PiS is so catholic-fascist that they had a former commie prosecutor preparing their judiciary reform and their leader is a closeted homosexual.
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>>134517391
If your country is majority white then democracy is perfect.
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>>134517349
t. someone who hasn't lived in America
Beyond guns there is 0 difference in fact "racism" is much more accepted where you live.
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>>134517480
>God forgives PiS too
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>>134500686
>inb4 Germany invades again
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>>134517460
this
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>>134500686
good. stay stronk Poland
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>>134517485
If your democracy is 100% white it won't stay that way
>>
POLAND YES!
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>>134500686

cool, good for Poland, jew-controlled democracy is poison
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>>134517485
Read Hobbs and de Masitre.
>>
Yesterday, or maybe the day before, there was a thread on here about which country would produce the next hitler and well this seems pretty damn close as it gets especially if he wants to create an authoritarian catholic state. Maybe he will be the first king in europe that will do things right this time btw i hope he likes trump
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>>134517485
democracy is just a soft form of communism
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>>134517872
That's a really dumb thing to write. Are you dumb?
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>>134517855
Poland definetly has the popular support but lacks geopolitical influence for something global. Only hope is if the mafia/oligarchs are purged in Russia or race war in US.
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>>134500686
>Began the process of "polenisation", which is forcing foreign companies to be bought out by Polish ones
interesting
so like nationalization except not retarded
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>>134500686
Aside from the fact some od the things you listed are not true or are "business as usual" nobody gives a fuck. PiS will win another elections no matter how many candles people will light
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>>134500686
>Jarosław Kaczyński, the leader of PiS is slowly tranforming Poland into an authoritarian catholic nationalist state.
Hallelujah!
Christ is king. No parliament has no authority over His Lordship. He has appointed His steward for Poland.
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>>134500686
How do I move to Poland?
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>>134517872
Are you retarded?
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>>134517992
>PiS will win another elections no matter how many candles people will light
Is there an actual anti-immigration traditionalist Christian alternative?
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>Poland is becoming an authoritarian hellhole
>people who never lived in an authoritarian state ask how to get to Poland
Just go to North Korea, you'll have a taste.
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>planned to get wasted and play some vidya yesterday
>can't because too worried for Polan
>end up following the news all night
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>>134500686
>Jarosław Kaczyński, the leader of PiS is slowly tranforming Poland into an authoritarian catholic nationalist state.

What the wrong with Catholicism and nationalism? Nothing.
>>
/pol/ you need to be gassed, like seriously
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>>134518159
North Korea is the only case in history for a totalitarian state with so much influence on society mainly because of East Asian cultural collectivism. This can't compare to Germany under Hitler, Spain with Franco or any country from the Warsaw pact so stop lying.
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>>134518193
Man, come on to the street with us.
I'm usually a shy cynical bastard *dips kantata* but the last two days I've been there and I felt the connection to something for the first time in over a decade.
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>>134517915
>>134518118
No, hes right, you're just too fucking stupid to see it.
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>>134516888
>Destroying Polish inteligence forces
That were spending more time influencing politics in Poland than gaining information about other countries

>purges in the army
It was known for years we have too many high officers and not enough NCOs.

>cancelled Caracal deal
To get which, the French bribed the last Prime Minister with a EU seat.
>>
smart move
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>>134518447
>To get which, the French bribed the last Prime Minister with a EU seat.
Woah, hol up, present your evidence right now or shut the fuck up forever.
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>>134516988
why is austria so mean? and i see you have 88, good job
>>
Anyway, I hope you in the west are ready for another big influx of refugees, this time from Poland.
I guarantee you we'll be coming.
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>>134518410
>Man, come on to the street with us.
Don't tell me you cucks are protesting against a right-wing goverment? You don't know what you have until it's gone.
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>>134517975
poland has tons of support from the burgers, practically 100% of trump supporter want poland to be the greatest country in europe for some reason, i even want them to
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>>134500686
based aushwitz land
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>>134518674
Exactly. Like democracy.
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>>134517992
Thats assuming there will be another free elections at this point

PiS having a control over the Supreme Court means they can declare the elections invalid should they not go in their favour

Or they can go the Hungary way and change the electoral system in such way that it's impossible for them to lose
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>>134518410
you want to protest this guy?
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>>134518769
>implying he is going to take away democracy
>implying democracy is good
Are you serious?
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>>134500686
Trump should learn from this.
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>>134500686
Weird. I thought Lech Kaczyński died a long time ago.
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>>134517485
Nope, democracy is just a mob rule and conmen profiting of the deception of the majority. You'd want the few smartest and best people in your country to rule, not the whole population filled mostly with normies and retards.

>>134517712
Add to that modern neoreactionary literature
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>>134518871
Impossible unless the military do a coup and hang 7 million kikes.
>>
>All these LARPing NEETs acting like they could even survive living in an authoritarian state
>>
What you need to understand is that if they loose the next elections and they will with all that negative covfefe, pooland is doomed, the next gov will let in all the niggers the EU throws at as.
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>>134518871
hopefully trump will join forces with this guy and destroy the european union and restore nationalism across europe and lower all their taxes
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>>134518878
Lech (the normal one) died
Jaro (the crazy twin) is alive and seeking revenge for the death of his brother
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>>134518815
I'm protesting the judiciary system override.
It's effectively destroying the third branch of the government.
I don't give a fuck about the stuff you keep mentioning here that they're supposedly 'based', I just don't want to lose my rights i.e. free speech.

>>134518842
>implying he is going to take away democracy
Because he's saying he wouldn't? This reform is giving him all the power, why would he decide to give it away freely if the next elections goes wrong? They'll just call it off.
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>>134518410
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>>134518940
>flag
I've lived in a Warscaw pact country nothing special in fact products were much better quality. Can you say your oven lasted 25 years and tomatoes don't taste like plastic?
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>>134519096
Fuck off Russian shill.
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>>134519073
I fail to see where the problem is you are acting like Antifa niggers.
>muh freedoms
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>>134519073
you have free speech in poland?
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>>134500686
good
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>>134519073
>I just don't want to lose my rights i.e. free speech.
Keep protesting and when the leftists get in goverment you will lose that forvever and no reform (without a gun) will fix that.
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>Russian opposition won't have the democratic Polen card anymore
Thank you based Jaroslav. Czechia will be next.
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>>134517129
To think the EU-bitch lefties think this is a good place to complain about. Go back to your original shithole habitats.
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>>134519116
This.
I found 40 yo blender at my grandpas and it still works great
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>>134519296
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>>134519351
Nothing like DDR quality. All these chinks can't create 1 good product.
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>>134519164
>>134518193
>>134518410
This is your problem faggots.
>play vidya
>"cynical bastard"
>muh feels
Fucking, virgin nu-males try to be important once in they life. Grow up. You don't know what you even doing.
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>>134517915
>>134518118
Not an argument
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>>134519296
How they use it?
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>>134518570
>http://telewizjarepublika.pl/duda-o-przetargach-na-helikoptery-obawiam-sie-ze-to-wybor-polityczny,19455.html
>http://wpolityce.pl/polityka/311222-piecdziesiat-caracali-za-jednego-tuska-przeciez-oddalibysmy-go-wam-za-darmo
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Soros is starting a grassroots in Poland even the brainwashing has started.
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>>134500686
Kaczynski?
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>>134518940
The whole world was "authoritarian" until the Enlightenment period some 200+ years ago, and people survived just fine.
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>>134518410
I wish I could but am too autistic to get anywhere near such a huge mass of a people, plus political activism in general makes me anxious

But god speed to you anon
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>>134504135

Yeah I live in London and I've been considering moving to Poland for three years. I learned Russian in University and I am currently self-teaching Poland. You really have no idea how bad it is in the (((West))).
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>>134519627
>before and after Soros movement protests
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>>134519592
>telewizja republika
>wpolityce
If not for the media outlets in question you should recognize the shilling by the titles.
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>>134519660
Also ignore the ID, I'm >>134518193
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>>134518882
Few smartest and best people are usually tools.
That's jewish propaganda.
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>>134519696
I'm afraid this information is hard to find in media outlets that were in bed with the previous government and are currently in bed with the opposition.
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>>134519534
>30 years ago both countries had communism but now Poland has 10% higher GDP per capita than Russia, that means that we need to oust Vlad and try to join the EU
>my great-grandfather was a Jew from Lithuania so I'm basically Polish and know what I'm talking about
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>>134519849
>smart people are tools unlike stupid people
>autocracy is jewish propaganda

You sane bro?
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>>134519890
That's not an information, that's an opinion.
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>>134510555
Poland-Lithuania, Switzerland, HRE, Greece, Rome used democracy/aristocracy long, long before USA even existed.
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>>134501865
>>134502456
>>134502895
Don't worry, my slav brother. We will be there for you when the the time is right for liberation.
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>>134515094
Please this
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>he believes in democracy
Who else wants to shit in op's mouth?
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