What's the best version of the Bible?

I would suggest King James Version.

I doesn't get any whiter than King Jimmy version

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>>134499247
Understand the difference between translations and versions first.

Douay Rheims or New American Bible.

Also don't get that confused with New American Standard Bible. It's incomplete.

King James Version is easily the best version. Nothing else comes close.

>>134500086
So what's the difference?

Try the Orthodox Study Bible. It's based off the Septuagint (the greek texts), and is filled with Iconography! It also has some books that the protestant king James doesn't include that were traditionally part of the Bible. Here's where I bought mine :) https://www.amazon.com/Orthodox-Study-Bible-Hardcover-Christianity/dp/0718003594

greek orthodox translation == king james > everything else

idk where you'd find the former though

>>134499247
>best version of the Bible
Like asking which is the best deck chair on the Titanic.

All abrahamic religions are fucking cancer

I would suggest avoiding religion

>>134500784
>All abrahamic religions are fucking cancer
This

The satanic ones

>>134499247
ESV

>>134500707
i wonder if it's ethical to pirate that. i mean is it even stealing if it's a bible?

>>134499247
King James purest.

>>134500994
who gives af, its a book filled with bs written by sand niggers anyway

>>134500522
One is word for word, the other is thought for thought.

>>134499247
in Hebrew

>>134499680
>>134499862
>>134500474
>>134500723
>>134501071
>recommending a translation of out of date source material

>>134501254
I think I would prefer word for word, and interpret thought from that.

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i prefer ESV because i'm a pleb that doesn't want to read old timey speak. KJV is the best though. also, start with the new Testament because that is what modern Christianity is based on.

>pic unrelated, just a reaction image i made out of an "Assigned male" comic

>>134501331
>out of date
>christianity
fuck off back to utah with your new age shit poofter

Skeptics Annotated is the authoritative version

>>134499247
Has to be old English king James version
It's the closest related (as time goes 1500 to 100 ad better than 1800 to 100ad) language wise,so the symbology is easier to get.

>>134501626
>implying
King James is top tier in a literary sense, but we've found much older copies of Scripture in the 400 years since James commissioned his translation.

I would say Orthodox Bible> King James> any other translation, and thats coming from an ex Baptist who owns both those and ESV. Alot of translation errors in King James though. ESV isn't a literal translation so it is translated as protestants interpret it.

>>134499680
Very beautiful language in this one. I was just in scotland, got to stand in James !'s chapel. Also beautiful. He was a dedicated man.

>>134499247
I really enjoy reading the New World Translation. It's so much easier to read than the King James Bible version. You can download the JW Library app for free from the app store to read the Bible.

>>134501742
i clearly cited orthodox first, with kjv being relatively equal. are any of the new scriptures compiled anywhere?

Read some translations side by side at biblehub to get an idea of which style you like better.

>>134502081
I wasn't specifically responding to you, just the KJV spam in general because that is doubtless what most English speaking types have read

>>134501409
KJV is the most literal Bible version on the scale. There are a couple of modern versions that might be a bit more literal, but they are very dry and read like Google Translate.

>>134502081
I'm saying the texts being translated into modern translations (NIV, ESV, etc) are older than the texts that were translated into the KJV

>>134502446
Older doesn't necessarily mean better. All those older manuscripts were all found in Egypt.

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>>134499247
KJV only

>>134502446
>implying that God's truth was hidden in a desert for 2 millenia.
Yeah, that makes sense.... to an atheist.

>>134503004
all those are protestant translations.

>>134499247
>Torah

>>134501742
God promised to keep his word faggot. He wouldn't let his word be lost for 2000 years.

>>134501984
>Jehova False Witness
No

>>134500707
THIS
I recently purchased it and have really enjoyed it

>>134501117
Fuck off loser Christianity is part of 5he foundation of western civdilation (of going to the moon fame) and your atheist or pagan beliefs are a plot of the Jews and communist yo break us. Go to hell

>>134499247
Get a parallel Bible with multiple translations side-by-side.

>>134499247
Douay Rheims.

>>134503121
What? Why would a catholic one be better? It's just a translation not a study Bible. And they translated the aprocrypha to.

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>>134499247
http://www.pidginbible.org/Concindex.html

>>134502638
It means they're slightly more reliable than the KJ texts since they were written closer to the events themselves.

>>134503082
>>134503243
When did I ever say the KJ was wrong or inaccurate? It seems like OP has little or no experience with the Bible, so he probably shouldn't start with a version written in a dialect of English he is completely unfamiliar with.

>>134503614
No he shouldn't start with a shitty translation. I read NIV from Genesis - 1 Corinthians and switching to KJV is much better. You only need to know a few more words to understand it.

>>134503562
Well most protestant translations are from Aramaic and hebrew, orthodox is from greek and since the orthodox church is primarily greek and also the oldest church in the world, the translations are more accurate and consistent.

>>134499247
the talmud

>>134499247
KJV or gtfo

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The ancient way of the church fathers is for you friend :)

ESV or NASB

>>134499247
KJV. Here's a whole documentary on WHY it's the best.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAgDXZfOfx0

>>134503838
The translators of KJV knew greek and spoke it regularly. They also knew hebrew.

>>134503744
>ESV is bad
I'm not telling the man to use the message

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>>134499247
There is no "best" version, Anon. They've all been translated along a continuum.
Pic related.

>>134503838
KNJ NT was translated from Greek. There are only like 3? single translation Bibles in existence.

>>134504083
also these
https://youtu.be/3_2T47PAIkM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IWawfP5Sj0k
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zyLGGVJzbFs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Tn8bvV5s8

>>134499247
KJV

The Cepher is cool too

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>>134504083
>shamelessly giving myself a (You) to shill this great doc about the KJV.

>>134504110
And ESV is still worse than KJV

>>134503589
This can't be real ...

>>134499247

1611 King James Holy Bible.

>>134504600
It is a real translation

Why are you a gay guy pretending to be a woman?

>>134503589
The most horrifying thing is that books (seem) to be missing/merged together.

>>134499247
Buy many study bibles and read their commentaries. Study the people who wrote those commentaries and their agenda behind their conclusions. Research biblical historicity and the culture of the biblical audience.
Flame thesis: catholics and orthodoxy walk the path of the old levitical priesthood and on a certain level are Judiasers for it. Not that they aren't saved!

>>134499247
Poetry: KSV
Autistic Literalism: NASB
Compromise: ESV
Bad Poetry: NIV

>>134505049
>atholics and orthodoxy walk the path of the old levitical priesthood and on a certain level are Judiasers for it. Not that they aren't saved!
this
Ritual is good, but because it makes the services feel "other" than normal life. The penitent thief was saved without any ritual or priestly mediation.

KJV sucks. literally translated by King Henry while he was raping the corpse of his beheaded 12 year old wife hoping to impregnate her

So all you KJV fuckers are Anglicans right?

Don't tell me you read it but don't practice it?

>>134505049
If the church is universal and existing since the point Christ founded it, then wouldn't the churches responsible for the first 1500 years of Christian history be the ones that could actually claim authority. I mean Christ was the fulfillment of the law, and he criticized the Jews for turning the traditions into pointless motions. Orthodox realize Christ is the temple sacrifice, the entire point. It is a replication of the ultimate fulfillment.

>>134505299
>KJV translated by King Henry VIII

Wrong. 75% based on Tyndale Bible which predates King Henry, later finalized by King James, son of Mary Queen of Scots.

>Anno Domini 2017
>2011+6
>Current Year+2
>Modern Day+0
>not learning Koine Greek and reading the original new testament texts and the pentateuch

I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

>>134503357
stupid apostate!

>>134505458
Dude, you have the original manuscripts?
You should scan those and post them online

>>134505220
we are called to be apart from the world. The problem with western Christians Catholics included is you don't understand the concept of theosis and how we were meant to bring heaven to Earth to become one with God's holiness in this life, to prepare us for the next.

I find English Bible heretic and English Quran nearly demonic. This is where my nonfluency starts to tell. One probably should learn English through poetry and not newspapers to appreciate it.

>>134505403

When you disagree with me, I literally feel like I've been raped. Literally. Please stop harassing me.

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Bible Emoji. It's hip and makes Jesus cool for me and my millennial friends,

>>134505299
Literally translated by committee
>>134505458
whew lad, the greek was translated from hebrew

>>134505220
I was on the Catholics are the devil band wagon for a while, but now I think that all who believe in our Savior are fine and everything else is a reflection on the history and culture of those believers.
>>134505337
I can smell your agenda from here.
>>134505374
>church
You mean ekklasia right? As in "those called out"? How can the ekklasia only exist at the point that the institution of church was founded? What were the Israelites? Or the people Deuteronomy was addressing? Cool last bit, that's interesting.
>>134505554
"be holy for I am holy" comes to mind, interesting explanation and expansion of the scripture

>>134499247
I prefer NLT or maybe NKJ. NLT my fav though.

>>134505694

My agenda is to save souls and BTFO of Papists.

>>134505674
Now THIS is heresy!

>>134505694
....but the catholic church was taken over by crypto jews

Obviously the lolcat Bible is the only version worth reading.

>>134505694
The point of Christ ministering during his three days of death was to save the faithful who had died. After that they were part of the church.

>>134505778
OK I must have been smelling my own ass, sorry brother
>>134505791
We are at a point where Zionism is EVERYWHERE. All I can say to you is we must hope for Jesus to come back and clean house. Or maybe it's in our hands and I just haven't studied enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkZCiLXzvZQ

It's not too filled with propaganda, but general accuracy of this is legit.

>>134505675
>whew lad, the greek was translated from hebrew
Yes, for the pentateuch. I never claimed otherwise. But the pentateuch is more accurate, as it was translated from an earlier source that predates the later different hebrew source that's used for modern bible translations. We're talking hundreds of years difference.

For people intimidated my the King James Version, try the New King James Version.

>>134505337
Because it's the best translation

>>134505906
Church comes from the word ekklasia as in "those who are called out" so what exactly are you saying with only the church existed when Jesus came? God had a church when He made a covenant with Abraham way back when.

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>>134505674
>yfw you realize this is how the decline begins and gradually our language will keep devolving until we have completely replaced the latin alphabet with a chinese-style logography of hundreds/thousands of characters, but they're all emojis

>>134505694
Scripture isn't everything. The contents of the official scripture were decided by the church, which is the pillar of truth. Paul talks about keeping the traditions that he and the apostles laid down. They kept priestly communion even back then. Everything the orthodox believes is derived from the early traditions and church councils when needed. We have no pope to interpret the Bible, the entire body of Christ comes together to decide the way it should be interpreted. The body of Christ must be united. We have 100s of thousands of denominations all because individuals wanted to interpret the Bible their way. What is the point of having a church if not unity in Christ?

>>134505916
Jews believe it's in their hands to make the earth ready for the Messiah. They believe in an earthly kingdom.

Book of Mormon

https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/New-American-Standard-Bible-NASB/

I>>134506133
If that is true what was the point of Christ telling peter "the chuch will be build on you" (not arguing for papist cause here". The Church was founded on Christs resurrection, that was when the covenant was fulfilled. All those that accepted him after, and those that accepted him during his ministering of Sheol will be given mercy.

Whichever one burns best.

>>134506065
No

>>134506263
Well now we get to a good question I'm interested in. Which came first, the scripture or the ekklasia? I'm inclined to believe in the ekklasia. Is belief in Jesus not the only means to be saved thereby being part of the ekklasia? Are all believers not unified in their salvation and love for God through Jesus? I'm not necessarily anti papist and I don't want to hate my brothers anymore with the zionists doing that and much worse, my agenda is to understand where the authority lies between the word of God and the men of God.
>>134506473
"It is significant that this is the first occurrence of the word Church (Ecclesia) in the New Testament, the only passage but one (Matthew 18:17) in which..."
Ekklasia is not a physical institution, once again, rather "those called out" so this scripture is interesting to me. I haven't studied it enough to have an answer for you, but as a theory perhaps the ekklasia he was building was those who followed Jesus instead of keeping to the talmud+Torah?

>>134499247
man no one has said New Living Translation yet?

They took the ideas from original texts, modernized the language, and have a ton of foot notes for different interpretations.

I highly recommend it

>>134505711
nvm i cant read

>>134506473

Its pretty simple if you know how to read

>>134506263
They don't even follow the apostles

Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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>>134507228

crap forgot pic

"Treatise On The Reintegration of Beings"

>>134506473
>ignores over a hindred clear verses ahowing we're heretics but has maybe one unckear one that shows your the true church of God^tm

NIV unless you are an autistic faggot who speaks like you live in the 5th century.

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>>134506473
Psalm 89 Verse 30 is pretty much incompatible with catholic confession practices. They're pretty much pharisees teaching doctrines of man, in my view.

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>>134507161
My counter question is this. If the Ecclesia was existent before the Church (physical church), then would not only the prophets pre Christ be saved? Most of the Jews thought the Messiah was going to be an earthly king, they had no way of knowing what Christ would be, and even the disciples didn't understand that Christ was fulfilling prophecy until after he did. Therefore a pre Christ church existing would be very very small. (which is why he ministered to the dead when he died). As for apostates (non orthodox) being saved, God is merciful. The benefits of the Church are not just salvation. It is true that those outside the orthodox church God willing would achieve salvation by pureness of heart, love of Christ, and the like- however they would be missing out on the sacraments, which is how we save ourselves from the torments of this life. Christ didn't come just to save us after death, he came down to save us in this life AND the next. I was a Baptist, all I saw were people around me struggling to be moral, yet they had no anchor point, no reminded outside of Church to help them be more Christlike. The orthodox orient your entire life around Christ. We have icons so that your eyes can focus on Christ, written prayers so that even When you are tired you can pray, Beautiful chants to turn your heart, and a host of Saints to help pray for you along your way. This is why I think western Christianity is truly failing, it is lazy. Listen to this my friend and tell me it doesn't bring you to a place higher then western music: https://youtu.be/lRHnr0JjKlU

>>134507283
James 2:14-17 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

A Hymn of Thanksgiving, an Orthodox Byzantine Chant.

https://youtu.be/10G3pIIjSg4

>>134508102
Nowhere does that passage say that works GIVE you faith though; they keep it strong, but only after you have it

>>134508102
Yeah its dead because its non-productive, but not non-existent. Faith is for Jesus, works are for mankind. Men can't see our faith so they understand us by our works. Dead faith is still faith.

>>134508102
>>134508339
also grace != faith
grace is what imparts salvation

You cannot have true faith without works, just as you cannot have true works without faith. They are both essential to life. We are not called to be lazy believers. The Scripture says the lukewarm will be spit out. SPIT OUT. Christ was not lazy and those who claim to truly love him cannot be.

>>134508455
what good works did the penitent thief perform?

Also 2:15 Thess: Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

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>>134508455
You're implying that there's a line drawn somewhere like a certain amount of missionary work I HAVE to do to get into heaven. The value of our works are not for mankind to judge. Can't remember the verse but God says something like how people will say "we preached in your name and drove out demons" and he'll say he doesn't know us. We can't stand on our works anymore than we can judge in eachother what works are enough.

>>134507999
The degradation of a culture does not necessitate damnation, I for one assert there were zionist influences which pushed for the decay we see today. Music is tied to culture, and culture to a people. Wasnt the ekklasia the Israelites, or rather those who inherited the promise of Abraham? I think you may be seeing a branch to a tree while I am see a tree with a branch, the same conclusion and image but from different starting points of reference. To say that the institution of the ekklasia is part of the salvation sounds like a sense of pride in a group of people, much like the Judiasers. I do appreciate classical chants, I think they're in their own keys too which is nice and very hard to find and learn.

>>134508516
Well he acclaimed Christ in public. He didn't have a chance to do much else. The point is this. If you have the chance to do works but don't do you truly love Christ? So many hate this because it convicts them. Every moment of our lives should be fully committed to Christ. The thiefs last moments were. As I said God is merciful. I am not saying works alone save, and I am not saying faith by itself cannot give salvation, but Faith will die without works, and those without living faith cannot have eternal life.

God isn't real you retards

>>134508664
I'm not implying that at all. There is no line because your whole should be given to Christ. Every work you do should be centered on Christ. That is every action. It takes a life of focusing to do this. That is why church life is so important. The Orthodox traditionally have Church every day and that is why.

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>>134508756
It's not for you to judge the works, man. You can only control yours and saying you get why the thief gets everlasting life and other people aren't doing enough is borderline sacrilege.

>>134508708
It had nothing to do with degradation. They simply never knew Christ and that is why they wouldn't have been able to be saved until after they died and Christ came to minister in the holding place during his death. Only the prophets truly knew Christ because they had the gift of prophecy. They are the orthodox church's first saints.

>>134508932
I agree with that it's just not for you to judge whose works are enough

>>134499247

(((Christianity)))

You worship a jew and the jewish god. The book doesn't even get the names right.

Jesus wasn't his name. "God" is not the name of the jewish god. If you want to know where you came from and who your god is, read translations of the sumerian tablets.

If you are white, your god is the snake from the garden of eden. The god Enki.

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>>134509107
The jews don't recognize our savior so its not the same god. Jesus says as much. Huge difference between BC jews and AD jews which is a line you are (((intentionally blurring)))

>>134508991
I am not saying that at all. My very first statement was that GOD IS MERCIFUL. What I am saying is every moment of our lives should be works for Christ. I don't get why that is difficult to understand. I am not the judge, I am only saying that there is a Church that believes the whole Bible and equips the believer to try to live every moment to the best of his/her ability in Christ and that is the orthodox Church. I am not going to debate anymore because I used to be a protestant myself and understand your position. I spent years as a baptist. Even went to mission college. But when I started asking questions this is where I was led by hands other than my own. Love and blessings brothers, I wish you the best. Christ is risen!

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>>134509340
>If you have the chance to do works but don't do you truly love Christ?

>not implying that at all

but are implying that you know anyone but the orthodoxy has chances to do God's work and doesn't do it.

>>134499680
True, but anyone in an English-speaking country should also have a copy of the Vulgata or Vulgate, because traditionally Latin has been the language of the educated in our countries, while of course there is also the importance of understanding the vernacular for example from the 1611 Authorized Version.

>>134509620
I would not imply that. I am not God. I can only speak for the Church, not the individual. I am trying to make a contrast between the theological differences in approach between each church and instead everyone is taking it personally. Which is why I will no longer participate in this discussion.

>>134509848

Well obviously everybody thinks they have chosen the right church. You stated two pieces of scripture that were compelling. 2:15 Thess. I just personally don't come from that tradition so I'm guessing that the eastern orthodox church is not my path to salvation. It seemed like you meant being baptist wasn't enough for you and I'm wanting that confirmation for myself. If it was enough I honestly would join the eastern orthodox church. They just spook me with the worshipping the queen of heaven biz

>>134510312
We do not worship Mary my friend. We only honor her as the mother of Christ and ask her to pray on our behalf because Christ listens to his mother as shown in the story of the wedding feast :). We do not hold the same views on Mary as Catholics. There are several educated priests who have great pages online who can explain this much better than me a recent convert. I struggled with the same thing for along time until I truly understood the theology behind it. :)

>>134510312
Also alot of Orthodox Christians do seem to hold Mary in a higher place than the Church actually officially places her. I think the Roman Catholic influence on many of the parishioners (members) might be the reason for this but we do not see her as as co-redemptress like the Catholics.

>>134510773
That definitely helps me lean your way.

Where does /pol/ stand with the RSV? When my grandfather past away I was given his bible, but I've never read it.

It is interesting to see the protestant revulsion towards honoring the virgin Mary as even Martin Luther and John Calvin believed in the Catholic views on her. It's a more recent thing. Also for 1500 years the church held the official opinion that Mary was also resurrected after death which is documented by many sources. This seems to be completely forgotten by most protestants which is very sad. I can't imagine not showing love to Christ's mother is pleasing to Christ. I've even seen some people cursing at Catholics and Orthodox just for saying she deserves honor.

>>134509107
>If you are white, your god is the snake from the garden of eden. The god Enki.

vade retro satana

also you do realize that (((Zecharia Sitchin))), from who you got this idea, was a kike right?

>>134501742
>but (((we've))) found

>>134511289
>I can't imagine not showing love to Christ's mother is pleasing to Christ. I've even seen some people cursing at Catholics and Orthodox just for saying she deserves honor.

this

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>>134499247
Revised standard. Its the book for methodists and methodists are god's chosen.

>>134511289
I don't think of myself as a protestant, but I do take issues with the catholic church and many other churches. I'm an american born into a family of non-believer divorced drunks so all I have is my KJV and an NIV I liked far less. The Jeremiah 44:21-23 is what scares me about the queen of heaven. Not that I strictly interpret the burning of incense to her as displeasing, but that it was somehow used as an excuse for greater inequities.

If you are interested in Orthodox Christianity I fully recommend the Books by Clark Carlton. He was a Southern Baptist Seminary who suddenly converted to Eastern Orthodox and is now a priest I believe. He has a book for Protestants, a book for Catholics, a book explaining the general beliefs and a book explaining how the Orthodox view salvation. All extremely well written and worth the read. Called, called The Faith series.

>>134511518
OSB is literally heretical, and this is coming from someone who is converting to Orthodoxy. Just go NASB tbqh famalamb.

>>134511539
Is the revised standard version good? I'm trying to get an answer because I'm curious.

>>134511796
anon my personal look on that verse is more about God's anger at the Jews for not even attempting to be righteous while burning sacrifices. Basically using the sacrificial system as an excuse to sin.But If venerating the theotokos (Mary) makes you uncomfortable there is no church doctrine that demands it :)

>>134511999
can you elaborate? I use that Bible and while there are some commentary notes I don't exactly agree with I haven't seen anything heretical. But saying NASB isn't heretical is interesting lol.

>>134511999
>OSB is literally heretical
why?

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The only holy book that you need without the blatant jewish tricks.

>>134511518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5HY22JBzDU

>>134512074
I had never heard that side of it before. I guess if venerating is different than 'worshipping as a god' then I can definitely see it your way. Glad you stuck around.

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>>134499247
Year 611 edition

>>134512586
btw there is some confusion between the Greeks and English as to the level of honor the word Worship entails. For instance in Greek their highest form of praise is Magnification which they reserve for God, Mary and Saints get worship/veneration. Its kind of a lost in translation thing if you do hear an Orthodox say worship. We know what we mean when we do it lol. We don't give Mary the same place as the Trinity. That's why most people use the word venerate when speaking English about the subject to avoid confusion.

Sorry that grammar might have been confusing. God gets magnification. Mary/ Saints get worship/ veneration. I didn't get it either Clark Carlton wrote a whole passage in his book about the confusion with English vs Greek names for different forms of praise.

In the Western church protestants use the word Worship for every form of praise, and I think thats why when hymns and prayers get translated over people scream blaspheme when really its just a lack of words to translate to. Its kind of the same with the word Love. We have the word love while the Greeks have like 12 different types of words for different kinds of love. Hope I'm making sense.

>>134499247
Hawai‘i Pidgin (HWP)
19 One time, da Jewish leada guys wen send priest guys an odda guys from da Levi ohana dat help da priest guys. Dey send um by John fo aks, “Eh, who you?” Dis wat he wen tell um:

20 He neva bulai. He tell um strait out, “Listen! I not da Christ, da Spesho Guy God Goin Send.”

21 Dey aks him, “Den who you? You Elijah?” He tell, “No, I not.”

Dey say, “Den you da Spesho Guy dat goin come an talk fo God?” He tell, “No, I not.”

22 Dey tell him, “Kay den. Tell us who you. Wat you say bout yoaself? We gotta tell da guys dat wen send us someting, you know!”

23 He say, jalike Isaiah wen say, da guy who talk fo God long time ago,

“I da guy dat talk real strong inside da boonies,
‘Eh, make da road ready fo da Good Boss.
Make um strait fo him!’ ”

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>>134513510
Holy fuck my sides

>>134499247

HIV is my favorite

>>134512457
that whole book *is* a jewish trick, Mohammed got the mustard from arian and nestorian heretics.

except then for actually rejecting Christ's new covenant and re-establishing the jewish food laws

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>>134513510
>>134504600
>>134503589
>http://www.pidginbible.org/Concindex.html
amazing

>>134513217
This. They equate the veneration of saint to idolatry, maybe those iconoclasts should read up on what idolatry really was.

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>>134514051
Da King Guys

>>134499247

The best Bible is the one that is easiest to read for long stretches for you. I love the KJV, but the ESV and NASB are my daily readers. Keep in mind that no translation is perfect - they all have their pros and cons.

>>134513217
>Its kind of the same with the word Love. We have the word love while the Greeks have like 12 different types of words for different kinds of love. Hope I'm making sense.

This is the exact reason why translation of the Vulgate into the worldly languages was prohibited for a long period of time, sparked with the medieval neomanicheans wil circulated a lot of bad translations and maliciously altered ones.

>>134514078
Love you
>>134514166
nah

>>134514154
>http://www.pidginbible.org/Concindex.html
Fo Filemon
“Aloha”!
1Dis letta from me Paul, an Brudda Timoty. I stay in jail, you know, cuz I stay tight wit Jesus Christ.
Aloha, Filemon! Me an Timoty, we get plenny love an aloha fo you, an we stay working togedda fo da same ting. 2Tell Sista Afia we say “Aloha!” Our friend Arkippus, he one worka fo God jalike us. Tell him “Aloha!” too, an all da church peopo dat come togedda yoa house, tell um we say “Aloha!” too. 3Our Fadda God, an da Boss Jesus Christ, we like dem do plenny good stuff fo you, an make yoa heart rest inside.
Filemon Get Love Fo da Bruddas, an Trus God
4Brudda Filemon, every time I pray, I no foget fo tank my God fo you. 5Everybody stay telling me bout da love an aloha you get fo all da peopo dat stay spesho fo God, an how plenny you trus Jesus, da Boss. 6You stay trus Jesus jalike we all trus him. Dass why I stay aks God, “Let Filemon know all da good kine stuff you get fo us guys, so we all can come mo tight wit Jesus, da Spesho Guy You Wen Send!” 7Brudda, cuz you stay get love an aloha fo da peopo dat stay spesho fo God, I feel good inside. Weneva I no feel good inside, tinking bout you make me feel good again, cuz da peopo dat stay tight wit God, you make dea hearts come good inside again.
Paul Aks Filemon fo Kokua Onesimus
8You know, I stay tight wit Christ, so I no shame fo tell you dis: you know how fo ack, so jus do um. 9But I ony one old man in jail cuz I stay tight wit Christ, so I like you try do someting cuz you get plenny love an aloha fo me. 10You rememba da guy Onesimus? I like tell you dis bout him: now, he jalike my boy, an I jalike his fadda, fo real kine, cuz I wen help him trus God wen he was inside da jail wit me. His name Onesimus, dat mean, Da Helpa Guy!

>>134514273
this

>>134499247
KING JAMES ONLY

>>134514436
11Befo time, he stay good fo notting to you. But now, he stay help me, an he goin help you. 12He da guy I goin send by you, an my heart stay wit him. 13I wen like keep him ova hea wit me, so he can help me da same way you wen like help me, but I neva. I stay inside da jail, you know, cuz I stay tell da Good Stuff From God. 14But I neva like do notting if dass not okay wit you. I no like you do um cuz you gotta! I tink mo betta you do um cuz you like.
15I tink dass why God wen let him go way from you fo litto bit, so dat you goin get him back foeva. 16Now, he not jus one slave, but mo betta den one slave! He one brudda! We all get love an aloha fo him, but I get even mo, an you too, even mo plenny! You know him jalike befo, an now you an him know each odda jalike you bruddas, cuz you an him stay tight wit da Boss Jesus.
17If you tink me an you work togedda good, I like you take him in, jalike was me who goin come yoa house. 18If he wen rip you off, o owe you money, let me know, cuz dat goin be my pilikia. 19I, Paul stay writing dis wit my own hand. I goin pay you wateva Onesimus owe you. But rememba dat you owe me someting too -- cuz a me, you get da kine life dass fo real! 20Eh, brudda, you can do someting fo me. Cuz you da Boss's guy, I like you fo make my heart come good inside, cuz you an me stay tight wit Christ.
21I write dis to you, cuz I know you goin do um, an you goin do even mo plenny den wat I say. 22An one mo ting, make one room ready fo me. I stay shua God goin let me go ova dea yoa place fo stay, cuz you guys everytime pray fo me.
Paul Tell da Odda Peopo “Aloha!”
23Epafras, he like say “Aloha!” He stay inside da jail wit me, cuz me an him stay tight wit da Spesho Guy God Wen Send, Jesus. 24Mark, Aristarkus, Demas, an Luke, da guys dey working wit me, dey say “Aloha!” too.
25I like you guys know deep inside da good way our Boss Jesus make to you.