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Uhhh guys?
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Government actually told him to pound sand.
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>>134391002

Trump is releasing the technology that's been "locked away"

remember his speeches?
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>underground
"some niggers will just shoot it"fags BTFO
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>>134391002
>to build
>imblying it doesn't currently exist
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>>134391002
what's so special? gov't gives billions all the time to technologies that can't work
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>It's jsut a maglev train in a vacuum
>Huuur HYPERLOOP

FUCK YOU ELON!
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>>134391002
It'll probably connect the child sex slaves in new York directly to comets in DC.
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>>134391002
>The Boring Company

This is a Jewish shell company with an unassuming name. What nefarious shit is going on here?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boring_Company

What the fuck is going on here?
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>>134391002
>the hyperloop
>ever going to work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDwe2M-LDZQ
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>Verbal approval

Oh Elon
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>>134391002
And literally nobody will ride it because for the price of an Elon ticket you can buy gas 10 times and enjoy a roadtrip.

Mass transit will never work in the USA unless it's located in a metropolis or if the USA magically shrinks into the size of Japland or Taiwan.

Fuck off Elon and stop using taxpayer money to fund useless shit.
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>>134391229
I 'member.

My dick is diamonds.
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It would cost 100 billion to build and would be very uncomfortable to ride it. Hes nuts.
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>>134391002

It's about fucking time America worked on installing some modern infrastructure.

Would you retards please not treat this like some jewish conspiracy? We're far far behind where we should and could be in terms of transit.
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>>134392245
Average American mongrel dosent understand that this is basically impossible
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>Build it for 200billion
>Get 250billion in government "partnerships" and subsidies
>Mass transit is great, it makes profits!
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>>134392241
100billion split over a few cities amortized over decades would be peanuts

riding it would feel no different than being in a train or plane, albeit much faster after gradually reaching maximum velocity
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His fuck cant even build a self driving car. How the fuck is he going to build a hyper rail?
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>>134391229
moon base
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>>134392470
Cellphones would have been impossible for rail road builders.
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>>134392636
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNFesa01llk
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>>134392693
>a self driving car.
They work, they'll be replacing truckers before 2030.

Uber already has a fleet of them
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>>134391669
This, tbqh
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>>134392763
>watch this shitty youtube video!
No thanks kid. Show your flag then maybe I'd bother wasting more time discussing with you
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>>134391002
boring ha
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Is he, dare I say it, >/our guy/
(When I say this in real life I do the meme arrows like pic related so other /pol/acts know who I am)
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>>134392531
>Keynesian economics doesn't work
wew lad
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>>134392856
fat neet is mad awww
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Definitely a Jewish conspiracy.
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>>134391002
>govt approval

Is anything this man does privately funded?
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>>134391707
Yeah
he's autism like that
Have you heard him try to give any speeches before? s-s-st-st-utter f-fest.

>>134391624
Elon literally quipped on twitter about it and decided to start a company by that name. They own a boring machine, hence the name. Someone will probably post a picture of it.
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>Verbal approval
>Implying that means anything other then a pat on the back.
Musk is getting setup to be cucked and it will be beautiful.
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SHIT WELL I GUESS THUNDERFOOT, AN ACTUAL SCIENTIST IS BTFO BECAUSE IF THE GOVERNMENT APPROVES SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT SCIENTIFICALLY VALID.
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>>134391669
Literally everything Elon Musk suggests is a pipe dream like space X and mars. This guy is a fraud.
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>>134393020
Most of his funding is private.

And getting government approval to build, is not the same thing as getting government funding to build, einstein.
Come on, are you really unable to figure that one out?
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just make it above ground and plow through poor neighborhoods; save a ton of money
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>>134393091
He already got cucked.

A bunch of politicians went, "lol who is this guy???" after he tweeted that.

Such is the life of an autist who can't into politics
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This is now a musk fanboy thread.
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>>134391002
>Uhhh guys?
This guy is such a fucking fraud. He is an absolute PARASITE on government funding and produces nothing of value. Someone should take this piece of shit and make him dig his retarded tunnel alone with a pickax for the rest of his life just to keep him out of trouble.
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>>134391002
Is this going to be for trains or for atoms?
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>>134393133
Everything musk does fails retarded redneck.
He cant even launch a rocket.
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>>134392929
>Is he, dare I say it, >/our guy/
Could you, dare I say it, take the worn-out /our guy/ thing and shove it up your ass?
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I approve of this course of action. It's a lot cooler than a shinkansen.
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>>134393269
Lol really? Sauce?
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Welfare fucker government gives this bitch loads of money to run his battery crap mobiles .
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>>134392765
No they won't.
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>>134393179
SpaceX and Tesla have delivered actual working products/services. If you have the money, you can literally buy them, right now.

I mean, there's a point where you have to step back and admit it's no longer some scam and we passed that point about 5 years ago. At least.

Get with the program buddy. You're going to be 40 and shaking your walking stick at SpaceX landing people on the Moon going, "ITS A SCAM I TELL YOU, A SCAM!!!"
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Eminent Domain, nigga. Why dont all y all go suck on a NAP
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I like how this fraudster enjoys near religious deity status in United Retardistan despite inventing, innovating and achieveing literally nothing but luxurious lifestyle paid by government lobby schemes
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>>134391002
I'm convinced this guy doesn't understand geomechanics. Good luck pumping water out of a 200 mile tunnel.
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>not if I have anything to say about it
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>>134391002
TO MARS
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>>134393486
Hyperloop is different. It is almost literally impossible.
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>>134391229
FTL when.
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>>134391373

And that's just to Elon.
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>>134393319
this. that's a 5 hr. car ride minimum, that would be insanely fast. Think supersonic jet fast
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>>134393453
Getting a few subsidies from the government to produce completely new technology sectors and provide competition in stagnant markets is your idea of terrible government intervention; and yet not a peep from idiots like you when Boeing and Lockheed form ULA together to avoid competing, and STILL get subsidies from the government. Nevermind the oil industry subsidies, the agricultural subsidies, etc. etc.

God forbid you ever dump some money into the private sector to encourage the development of new industries and competitive companies.

I guess the only good subsidy is a subsidy going to incumbent monopolies, right?

Seriously, where do you retards come from?
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>>134393486
Teslas are less efficient than gas cars due to the rare earth metals and waste from batteries. Space X has not successfully landed on the moon. Nothing he has done so far has succeeded, he's a glorified gov welfare leech.
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Elon musk needs to fuck off already with his shitty businesses that never work
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>>134393731
Lrn2Physics faggot
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>let's put people inside of vacuum tubes!
This means of course that a hole in the train anywhere will kill everyone inside unless there are multiple airlocks. Besides that, one hole in the vacuum tube and suddenly the whole system doesn't work.
Let's also not forget that they haven't even developed an engine to pull the trains, something they are leaving to others and at their last 'competition' not even one submitted car design made it all the way down a very short sample of tubing with an engine provided. This is an absolutely terrible idea and it's clearly nowhere near completion.
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>>134393739
Soon.
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He's going to dig into a Vril city
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>>134392701
I would join that moon base....bide my time until it was an economic necessity...then overthrow that bitch, harsh mistress-style
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>>134393133
Thunderfoot us full of shit. However he makes valid points. Putting this over an active fault is asking for a failure. The welding of the sections does not account for the thermal expansion of the pipes let alone the fatigue stress from constant cycling of depressurization and thermal expansion/shrinkage. Those welds will fail without constant maintenance.
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>>134393486
Starts SpaceX in 2002, says he will revolutionize space travel in 5 years. 14 years later, and billions of U.S. taxpayer money later, SpaceX is a government tit sucking 90% of its revenue from taxpayer getting, big fat government contractor like Boeing or Lookheed. And doesn't even make money yet.

Start Tesla, Musk helps out with name and money, Tesla is a taxpayer subsidy sucking, "green meme" abusing scam to sell overpriced battery cars to rich liberals. In 2004 says will revolutionize electric cars with millions of Teslas on the street in 10 years, 12 years later still selling it to "green meme" buying idiots.

Invests in SolarCity, gets huge taxpayer money subsidies to compete with Chinese at American worker salaries, which everyone knows is impossible, only survives due to taxpayer money backing

Supports Hyperloop, gets taxpayer money grants for BS high speed train solutions which will never work. Verbal approval, hahaha, Obama-era "enterpreneur" looking for a new suggar daddy. When the project will turn out a fraud, he'll say that Trump won't support it because he hates science and free market or some shit
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>>134393731
I agree, although I'm willing to be proven wrong.

Unlike SpaceX and Tesla, Elon's got to work through billions of dollars' worth of red-tape and bureaucracy. I don't think he quite understands that in order to build his hyperloop, he's going to have to do what every other company before him did: Bribe the everloving fuck out of corrupt politicians and jack the price of the project 1000 fold to cover all the misc. retarded costs that are introduced through all that graft and corruption.

SpaceX has future growth potential through telecommunications (world-wide low-latency high bandwidth satellite constellations), and space-based solar power, but that's largely because the bureaucracy is comparatively small. Once you're talking about buying up land and building shit between major cities - you're fucked.

It'll never happen. Every fucking mayor and official in-between is going to be demanding his cut.
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>>134393682
>he literally is going to get divorced AGAIN
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>>134393033
Reminds me of this hyper autistic hapa friend I have who got rich by applying his videogame minmaxing skills to finance. Cool guy even if he struggles to articulate himself.
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>>134393840
>Teslas are less efficient than gas cars
No they aren't.

Please stop being a retard who literally swallows every shit the incumbent auto industry and oil industry takes in his toilet-bowl mouth.
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>>134394247
At least he's doing something other than taking pretty pictures of Saturn.
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>>134391002
too bad humans barf when they're on it and this is all a sneaky grab at transporting goods, not people.

i hope you fuckwits know better than to trust this bald retard.
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>>134394247
Nigger, Musk is exactly a product of red-tape and government bureaucracy. He has an army of lobbyists on payroll to help lift taxpayer money to help his Tesla Motors, SpaceX and SolarCity fraud schemes.

Tesla received a loan guarantee for $465 million from the DOE. When Tesla went public, Musk pocketed nearly $1 billion on his $35 million investment.

SolarCity spent $535,000 in 2009 and 2010 to lobby Congress and the Department of Energy on climate legislation, the Recovery Act, “green workforce training and development,” and provisions in various legislation “relevant to solar development,” according to The National Legal and Policy Center. SolarCity also received a $344 million loan guarantee from the Department of Energy and $66 million from additional DOE giveaway programs.

And Musk's other company SpaceX has received over $1 billion in taxpayer funding.

Musk is, of course, a big donor to Obama, having given $35,800 to the Obama Victory Fund and another $30,400 to the DNC
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>>134394358
yes they are you stupid fuck canadian retard. electricity is generated how? that's right, you're too retarded to figure shit out. my bad.
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>>134394372
Is this video a timelapse? How can the rocket go through the entire atmosphere in just 30 seconds and still manage a soft, precise landing on a floating pad?
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>>134391002
Who the fuck names their business "The Boring Company"? What a snore
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>>134391002
There's already an underground trans-atlantic militaru convoy tunnel under Ney York City that leads to Tel Aviv in Israel. I remote viewed it one time.
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>>134394550
It's really sped up.
Do you think we have any vehicle fast enough to make it orbit across the earth as fast as in that webm, when the rocket is standing vertically?
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>>134394082
SpaceX is not getting 90% of its revenue from the government.

The government doesn't even make up 50% of SpaceX's launches, AND SpaceX is launching for 1/2 to 1/3rd the price of all their competitors.

It's disingenuous to imply that the government buying launches from SpaceX is some kind of subsidy, too. SpaceX is the cheapest on the market right now. This year they've launched more payloads into orbit than every one of their competitors COMBINED.

God forbid the government buy launches with the cheapest launch provider on the market, jesus christ.

I guess they should've paid triple the price to launch with ULA because THAT'S not subsidizing them, right?
Fucking retarded shills.
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>>134393300

What do you expect, he's Afican.

He's literally the welfare queen.
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>>134391002
>muh hyperloop
Why the fuck not build actual high-speed rail first? Fuck, jumping right into some sci-fi shit before you even get any high-speed rail operational is stupid.
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let's see,
distance from D.C to NYC is around 360km (longest underground tunnel is 137km long)
29min (in reality it'll probably be more) travel time means around 700km/hr, maglev speed record is 600km/hr
so i'm going to guess he's droping the vacum chamber concept and just gonna build an undergroung maglev
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>>134394529
Electricity is generation-agnostic. 40% of the electricity in the US is produced in nuclear power plants. Something like 70-80% is done by hydro/nuclear in Canada.

Lithium and rare earth mines are no more deadly/toxic than oil/coal/gas drilling and mining is, and Lithium is easily recycled and reused.

The full logistics train of oil/gas from drilling to your ICE engine is an order of magnitude less efficient than the full logistics train of electricity to the battery of an EV. The production of an EV is little different from the production of an ICE.

Basically you don't know shit about fuck.
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>>134391002
>I hate TRUMP HIS REGIME IS RUINING EVERYTHING
>Low-key just got permission to build underground bullet trains...BUT TRUMP STILL SUCKS AND HE HATES THE EARTH BRO
even when they win they act like fags
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>>134394851
Even if the tunnel was just 50% lower air pressure, it would save enormously on energy costs.

Personally, I think Elon should be designing this shit as freight first, passenger second (or maybe never). High speed, high-throughput freight between major land-locked cities would be incredible.
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>>134391002
Trump is building it to "accidentally" catch underground human trafficking.
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>>134392765
Oh boy itl be just like that scene in Logan because they won't account for actual drivers by the year 2020 and just fucking crash into everything with a steering wheel
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>>134391229
>>134391780
What you think might be next?
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>>134391002
>NY-Phil-Balt-DC
Niggerloop
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>>134391229
can you post a vid link
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>>134391002

fake news
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>>134391229

Baron gave him the jist of it and he's allowing it
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>>134395349

Just look up a transcript of his inaugruation and congress speeches

and then control f. Space, unlock, etc
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>>134393739
When you can gather enough exotic matter to build those rings.
Current amount of exotic matter available: none. It's still purely theoretical and yet to be observed.
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>>134395198
They do actually account for other drivers.

These self-driving cars have literally been on the road clocking up miles for the better part of half a decade now. The Tesla's all have rudimentary self-driving systems ALREADY. Similar systems are being tested and rolled out by Audi, BMW, Volkswagen, Toyota, etc.

The big money right now isn't in the luxury cars though, it's in the trucks. 24/7 transportation without paying for a driver. No pit stops so the driver can sleep. No expensive logging and tracking. Fewer lawsuits, no benefits. Fewer crashes, fewer lawsuits. Fewer tickets, fewer broken laws.

Trucks that drive themselves, without stopping except for cursory inspections, maintenance, and refueling.

It'll take 2-3 years to initially prove the concept in a few risk-taking and forward-thinking companies, and then another 2-3 for literally EVERY trucking company in the world to buy these things. Unemployment is going to skyrocket once it's worked out.
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>>134395329
this 2bh
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>>134391002
If that fuck can make a transport system that fast, fuckin do it. God bless this current administration for not making this a 50 year project for once.
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>>134395625
>No lawsuits
I'm not sure you understand how being effected by a business works in the United S of A. If you get hit by a driver, your insurance pays for it. If you get hit because of a vehicle defect or system failure, you qualify for HOLY FUCKING SHIT CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT. These trucks crash 10-15 times over the course of a year period and you have a huuuuuge fucking issue and PR problem on your hands. Toyota got megafucked for like 3-4 instances of the brakes not working on the Prius properly. You have any idea how much (tax) money is going to get pissed away on these lawsuits?
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>>134395625
Literally ever driverless car they test crashes
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>mfw elon musk got rich thanks to half a billion dollars from the u.s. government, paid for by taxpayers, and argues that government subsidies should be stopped
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>>134391509

When you get around to designing and making yours you can call it whatever you like.
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>>134391002

>Trump gave Musk access to all the things of Nikola that were confiscated.
>mfw
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>>134392245
>we
>we
What the fuck do you do and who the fuck are you?
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>>134391229
Yes. But the media will say this technology is based off of inventions from ancient civilizations in Africa.
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>>134391002

What is a hyperloop
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>>134395106
if it saves energy depends on how much it costs pump the air out, if, like the tweet implies it's going to have several stops, it would mean to presurize-deprezurize a train sized chamber at every stop
we should also consider maintainance, it would need to either presurize track sections so people can enter, breating suits or robots, there's simply no way to make this cost effective if it needs to run on low pressure
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>>134394643
>nasa created
>runs lean and fast
>slows down over time because regulations and bureaucracy
>budget gets cut and fires people
>space x hires all these people and gets millions from ocongo that could've gone to nasa
>ex nasa employees make company that resembles nasa before the slow down

It's only a master of time before space x slows down too and looks exactly like Boeing.
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Elon was complaining about DC traffic a while ago and claimed if it didn't improve soon he'd make a company called "The Boring Company" specifically to bore a tunnel under the city for faster commerce. This is just him confirming it's still on.
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>>134391129

this

elon musk is full of shit
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>>134391002
>the hyperloop is boring
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>>134396324
M O N O R A I L
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>>134395106
You can not run the train in anything nearly that dense. The train builds a pressure wave in front of it and the drag skyrockets. It would need to be near vacuum or a massive tunnel.
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>>134391002
Just gonna need about $50B to build that tunnel
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>>134394082

Thank you for replying against that obnoxius Canadian shill.

Elon is the proverbial snake oil salesman. I wouldn't trust him to serve me burgers
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>>134395929
No they don't
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>>134391002
it's going to take like a decade to bore
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>>134391002
I think he meant Boeing Company but misspelled it.
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>>134396340
>it would mean to presurize-deprezurize a train sized chamber at every stop
Or there would be airlocks for passengers to board the train.

>>134396371
SpaceX isn't hiring NASA engineers. In large part because NASA engineers are so concerned with safety and quadruple checking everything that nothing gets fucking done without ballooning the costs. Nevermind the exorbitant pay they all demand.

SpaceX hires moderately experienced, but passionate people. The kind of people who enjoy working 60 hours a week for mediocre pay in their field.

But you wouldn't know any of this, because you are a clueless dumbfuck.
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American public transit system is shit, not because americans are stupid, but because they don't want niggers

People living in rich white (or poor white) areas don't want some nig nogs jump on a magnet train in some drugpit, then go their place in 20 minutes for 5 bucks, hooting and hollering, looting around

Everyone knows this, every politician knows this, even the liberal ones, but nobody will ever talk about this, only maybe behind closed doors
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>>134397422
NASA has been on suicide watch ever since Columbia and Challenger.
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>>134394861

> Electricity is generation-agnostic
Generated electrical energy storage on large scale is still not possible, so electricity generation rates matter a lot. As such, electricity is not generation-agnostic
> Lithium is easily recycled
Lithium-ion batteries are not

And I think you're really over-estimating batteries here over oil.
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>>134392245
This. Haters hate is clouding their vision. This could be revolutionary tech. Not there yet, but theyre just started to test prototypes. Give it 5 years
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>>134391509

It's important because it's a proof of concept for a mass driver you uneducated niggerfaggot
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>>134397322
Why would boeing be drilling a hole underground. Pretty sure Boring Company is correct, you fucking dipshit.
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>>134391002
Autistic con man
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>>134397585

> Give it 5 years
Hyperloop as a concept has been around 100 years
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Fraud memester than manages to get billions of dollars of investment into go nowhere pipe dreams over and over again. How does he keep getting away with this? The only common attribute among all his projects is the fact that he walks away with a fuck ton of money each time.
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>>134397487
They were on suicide watch before that.
The Space Shuttle should never have been built. The ISS should never have been built. The SLS should never have been built.

They're not terrible ideas, but the amount of corruption and graft is incredible. SpaceX accomplishes with $1 billion, what NASA requires $10-20 billion to do.

The Space Shuttle should've been cheap and reliable. The ISS should've been genuinely useful with actual centripetal gravity sections and a dedicated 20+ person crew. The SLS should've been 100x cheaper and finished already.
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>>134391002
>"Ok Destroy New York City and Washington DC Elon Musk"

Bullshit guys a fucking con man.
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>>134391229
>believes bs Trump says
being this naive
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>>134391229

I'm actually curios to see if the hyperloop will work properly. Also there are a lot of safety issues with people flying through a vacuum tube.
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>>134395931
Government subsidies for companies other than his. That's an important distinction.
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>>134391002
>rapid nigger mover
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>>134391229
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>>134391002
Ok, now let's pretend im a child so I'll need you to slowly explain and spoonfeed me what all this means
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>>134398597
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>>134399117
Sauce?
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>>134391002
The biggest con artist of the century.
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>>134397322
Boeing=above ground
Boring=below ground

Literally the exact opposite.
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>>134391287
Still doesn't change the fact there's no way to get out if something goes wrong. You can get out of a normal train but that thing is sealed in a tube with no exits
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>>134391002

This is the biggest con job ever
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>>134395106
>>134396340
>>134396614
He's not even an actual designer. Quit sucking Elon's cuck.

This shit will be more dangerous than the Concorde due to the Air Vacuum.
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>>134399741
You can't get out of an airliner, so that's not a problem unique to hyperloop.
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>>134399741

And in a vacuum. If the loop car springs an air leak, you'll suffocate.
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>>134395235
Zero Point Energy. Unlimited Free Energy. Anti-Gravity Engines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZ8KVzDeYaI
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>>134399933

As long as there are parachutes.
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>>134399933
Ha, true. Cleanup seems pretty tough though, the whole line will be crippled if one train has something happen. But then I suppose they just have to build it so nothing happens
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>>134399620
Supposedly a leaked KGB book of alien races.

www.markfoster.net/struc/the_alien_races_book.pdf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xenkCgf2860
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>>134391002
Just got heavenly approval to a Pistol-Your Head-Your Daughter_Your Dog Hyperloop. Earth-Hell in 2 mins.
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>>134395399
>tfw Trump will never be my daddy
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>>134400198
No fucking way Musk could match that.
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>>134393936
>393936
OH SHIT. VRIL CONTACT SOON.
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>>134400018
Yes, the parachutes. When the flight attendants do their little dance number, I bet one of the places they point out is the parachute depository.
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>>134396005
Does he have a Pence as a bodyguard?
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>>134399715
Oh. With my limited intelligence I assumed the hyperloop to be some sort of monorail. I didn't realize its an underground tunnel.
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>>134399933
>>134400018
>>134401780
>>134400080
It is unique to the hyperloop. Plane accidents only involve plane passengers.

Hyperloop passengers will involve both passengers and innocents who weren't using the Hyperloop.
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Admit it Elon Musk is mentally ill , his little projects all depend on government hand outs . Plus his little pet project the Hyperloop does not work , the system to maintain a vacuum is impossible because of weight and expansion . P.T Barnum said their is a sucker born every minute . REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>134400198
We'll call it, the rubyridgeloop
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>>134402179
He is more successful than NASA doing launches and expanding rocket tech via privately funded SpaceX
. Contracting for the government doesn't make you a welfare corporation, you dim witted fuck.
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>Elon: I heard you had gibs, and I got here as soon as I could.
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>>134401910
True, the shockwave travelling at the speed of sound will rip apart the stations at the ends. They haven't really represented an engineering solution to this, could it be viable to counter-bleed the tube at the ends if the athmosphere is compromised?
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>>134391129
yep

"the boring company" doesn't decide if musk gets a tunnel

he can buy a big patch of desert and build a test tube with his piles of money or get lost
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>>134391002
Congrats
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>>134401910
Hmm kind of like a train? Concern trolling is getting old. This is basic tech like using Hemp instead of Cotton that big industry doesn't want you to know. Stop being fucking slaves. Learn to use the tools of the future or at least to improve the ones you have. I am sick of suffering from others lack of knowledge and effort. Lazy slaves...
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>>134402545
Nasa put a man on the moon musk hasn't even sent a man to space stop sucking his dick. It cause hes African isn't it. Americuck
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>>134401910
Even if they only drove cargo, how much would the vacuum itself cost? $5000 per mile? Every small maintenance task would start at millions.
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>>134402696
>Train malfunctions
>Get off and walk away

>Hyperloop malfunctions
>Suffocate 300 feet below ground
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>>134401910
>Plane accidents only involve plane passengers

Ever heard of 9/11?
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>>134402855
Of course, the famous 9/11 accident, how could I forget. Almost as bad as the pearl harbor accident.
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>>134402855
Ground casualties are still a small minority in air traffic..
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>>134392765
Over 70% of the United States roads are located in snowy regions.

>self driving cars suck at driving in the snow because they use sensors that read the lines on the road.

>and even if they do improve and handle snow better, nobody is going to trust a self driving in a snow storm.

>by the time we're ready for mainstream adoption of self driving cars there will be something better.
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>>134391669
This.
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If you want to be overly cynical about everything this guy is trying to build, at least have the decency to look into the specifics even a LITTLE bit. None of you retards slamming this idea ITT even seem to realize this has nothing to do with mass transport or trains.
The idea is you drive your own car to a platform above ground, which then lowers it into the tunnel and carries you and your car to your chosen destination. So basically you get to "drive" your own car underground at insane speed to a certain destination without any fuel depleted.
Addtionally, he doesn't need to buy any land or implement imminent domain since the entire drilling process will occur far enough underground that it literally cannot be detected above, not even by the most sophisticated measuring devices.

Sometimesyou guys act like a bunch of idiots, instantly shunning an idea without looking into it at all because of the "jews" or some other retarded reason. It's okay to be skeptical, but atleast look into it first.
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>>134404458
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>>134397217
>it's going to take like a decade to bore

Depends on how many TBM's you use at once.
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>>134404458
See
>>134391669
The videos explain the scientific and engineering flaws
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>>134391669
Kill yourself, Thunderf00t
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>>134404458
What do you think would be the maximum distance below ground that sensitive seismic monitors could pick up the boring action?
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>>134391509
>8 cylinder autmobile
>Huuur Mustang GT
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>>134405806
Apparently 3 to 4 tunnel diameters below ground. So about 150 feet below ground.
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>>134393739
Anon the key is not going faster than the light, it's to go around it.

To bend the fabric of space and time of two far points, much closer.

Breaking the speed of light is mathematically impossible as we know it.

However, space and time is malleable. Like a fabric. Hence the 'fabric of space time'. To find a way to harness the fabric, and mold it. The consequences of this discovery could be more catastrophic than any bomb humans could ever imagine.

I personally hope humans never are able to do such a thing.
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>>134401819
Well it was envisioned as an above ground tube but there are a ton of engineering problems that make it impossible to build. First off it would be incredibly prone to outside damage and sabotage. One rifle round could penetrate it and cause structural integrity loss that would implode and crush the tube under the weight of the atmosphere.

Heat expansion would warp the tube, the topside of the tube will be in sunlight while the bottom mostly won't, causing heat expansion stress on the vacuum tube. Lengthwise heat expansion is the bigger problem though, take look at how bendy and zig zagged other types of long pipelines have to be in order to not fail due to heat expansion, making high-speed near vacuum travel unfeasible.

So only sane way to build it would be inside the bedrock.


But the joke is on musk though, as age on conspiracy theories tell us that these types of tunnels already exist between strategic bases and locations in the US. Built with black budget top secret nuclear boring machines that melt the bedrock in front of them as they push through leaving behind them a smooth glass like finish.
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>>134391669
>comparing the hyperloop to NASA's vacuum chamber
>hyperloop doesn't need to reduce the pressure as much

They didn't say they were going to run the hyperloop on 0psi yo dolt!
Fucking armchair engineers.....
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>>134402830
Nope dummy, there would be airlock placed probably at every mile or so, in case of maitenance or emergency a certain section of the tube can be sealed off and filled with air rapidly.

Also at the station the airlock where the vehicle enters is precisely the dimensions of the vehicle, so pumping out the few litres of air around the vehicle will be insanely quick.
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>>134406743
What if its just a cover to build another Large Hadron Collider here? We need to look into this possibility.
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>>134392763
very informative video. Convinced me that the hyperloop will never be possible.
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The devs of the Hyperloop responded to thunderfoot's vid on plebbit in a AMA:

I've got this one. I have watched the video, and made copious notes. Thunderf00t is a well known youtube science commentator, best known for debunking religious fundamentalists and understanding the surface-maximization of liquid alkali metals, published in Nature last year.
That aside, both hyperloop videos show a complete reluctance to engage with the real arguments. Sorry, but highlighting some semi-literate comments by your critics does not amount to engaging in a useful discussion. I would like to levitate this video into the sun.
Here are some specific points and rebuttals: -Thunderf00t primarily makes reference to the Hyperloop alpha whitepaper, written by some SpaceX employees in 2013. I saw no evidence of engagement with subsequent press releases by any of the hyperloop companies. In particular, TF doesn't seem to be aware that there is more than one hyperloop company. FYI, we are Hyperloop One, the company that has raised ~$108 and built the world's most powerful linear motor in 5 months. -Thunderf00t talks a good game about aerodynamics, but shows no evidence of even having read the wikipedia article on choked flow, duct flow, the Kantrowitz limit, or knowing any of the other 'first day on the job' level detail for our aero team. -One of Thunderf00t's technical gotchas was 'expansion joints are difficult', despite the fact that hydraulic cylinders exist, most steel rails are thermally pretensioned, and thermal expansion is probably something we thought of already. -Thunderf00t could have easily looked up our people on LinkedIn, checked their google scholar bona fides, whatever, but seemed more keen on a cheap take down than actually engaging with interesting and ongoing engineering challenges. -One symptom of the level of technical effort that went into TF's video is his careless assumption that 1g = 1m/s/s, as though Hyperloop was being built on some tiny moon of Jupiter.
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Here's the link to the AMA:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4wck43/hi_were_mostly_engineers_here_at_hyperloop_one/
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>>134406750
>muh 99.9% isn't a perfect vacuum so it would work.
What is it like living with autism ?
The alpha document mentioned value for the pressure as he used (0.001).
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>>134391229
Space colonies when/
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>>134407684
thundercuck getting BTFO
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How do we stop it?
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>>134392964
<<<
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>>134393766
My country's educational and value system...
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'verbal government approval' What a fuckin desperate fuck. He needs that stock price to float or his companies tank because they have no real income or demand without government subsidies and tax breaks.

there is no such thing as 'verbal approval'. Hey we can start digging next year! We got the go ahead verbally from Chuck at Department of the Interior. Thumbs up. Better invest now! Prices are just going to keep going up up up!

What a faggot. I hope his dick falls off from Amber Heardpies
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>>134391624
I imagine it's bore as in borehole
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>>134391129
This sounds more accurate.
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friendly reminded that elon is successful so far in nothing except being a part of paypal and spacex. He is only a marketing guru, no more.
tesla is a meme propped up by PR which includes all the redditors shilling for him here.
https://www.quora.com/How-often-do-a-Teslas-batteries-need-to-be-replaced
https://www.google.com/url?hl=en&q=http://archive.is/DCWp1&source=gmail&ust=1500713651396000&usg=AFQjCNHhsM8mTF62UToTUhvRtVwTzWG10Q
Tesla batteries cause more carbon than a car to be made, have to be replaced in that same time period, currently are charged off our 'dirty power grid, and damage roads from sheer weight.
Good intentions don't make something inherently good.
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>>134409229
second link is supposed to be this http://archive.is/DCWp1
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>>134391002
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXF2qcu-tFw
Busted
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>>134407723
>>134407684

those responses we're half-assed and addressed none of the concerns, especially with differences between the white paper and the bullshit they're churning out. an overpriced maglev in a lowered-pressure tube
>Go back to rebbit where you found that, fag
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Helooooooo , Elon is signaling to his buddies my likely
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>>134406330
uma................
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/888088029428150272

This was a we're going under ground and you guys will take it from here type event ..
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>>134392946
>i saw a meme graph on /pol/ and think I know what keynesianism is
Care to explain how a system built to deal with depressions, and by its own creators words was NEVER designed to work in the long term "works"?
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>>134391002
Musk is just bragging.Will never build really anything than just a few stunts to fool people.
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>>134395625
This. I have a tesla and the self drive is flawless. It takes some getting used to handing over control - and you have to park and pull out yourself - but from there it's brilliant.
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Pay attentio to their Twitters . The signs are there

Also putin is preparing for end

"Vladimir Putin: I am flying now to Kazan, from there to Yoshkar-Ola, and then to Sochi, where I will meet with children.

I set up a big children’s centre at one of the Olympic facilities. We have turned it into a marvellous centre. We bring gifted children from all around the country there, young mathematicians, physicists, ballet dancers, musicians and athletes, hockey players and figure skaters. We organised it so that 900 children come at a time, from all around the country, and spend 21 days there. We accompany them; bring in the best teachers from all over Russia, from Moscow, academicians, professors all come to work with them. It is a very interesting place. The current group is coming to the end of their programme now and I would like to meet with them tomorrow.

Lyudmila Alexeyeva: Yes. Kazan is a good city too. But what takes you to Yoshkar-Ola, I don’t know.

Vladimir Putin: We are going to hold a meeting on interethnic relations there."
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rich dumb boys playing with (((toys))) were a mistake
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>>134391002
owning tesla stock must be terrifying, your money is invested on whether or not an absolute madman can come up with some more absolute madness to say every few days
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>>134411261
you do realize hes up for reelection in march of 2018, right?
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>>134411261
What are you batting about, bruv?
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>>134398066
about the same amount of safety issues as being in a pressurized paper thin metal tube flying through the air.
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>>134391002
>HYPERLOOP
has it been tested,shouldn't it run on a short experiemental track then move on to a trial destination between two close destinations b4 it's given the green light
Even Maglev didn't pan out and that was in the works for a while,I think it's only used as a short commuter line from an airport
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>>134394622
its sped up, but it still happens pretty damn fast.
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>Large Human Collider
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>>134397422
You're really annoying
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>>134394358
The batteries alone creates more CO2 during the manufacturing process than a car does that runs on fossile fuels, you can literally use a normal car for years before u produce an equal amount of CO2. And that's not even taking into account the CO2 produced for the actual electricity needed to charge the battery daily, and before the normal car emitts more CO2, you have to replace the battery with a new one. You get it right? Normal fossile fuel cars emit less or equal amount of CO2.

Electric cars are 100% a scam when it comes to CO2 emissions.
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>>134398066

Such as? I imagine the slightest shift in tectonics will break the tube and the slightest bit of particulate will become like bullets. I think they will build a housing for the tube that compensates for all that, no? The tube itself won't be in direct contact with the dirt around it.
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"verbal approval," lol, the guy must be a pain to work with

he talks to some govt people, they tell him some bullshit to make him go away, first thing he does is go on twitter and talk about it like they just signed a binding agreement and digging will begin shortly

the people he talked to read that shit and be like, "wtf is wrong with this guy", but he's tony stark doing cool shit and saving the world, and they're just some fucking squares so the fuck do they know
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>>134408666
Elon Musk couldn't even get the written agreement of a local city mayor much less councillman.

He's selling snake oil as usual.

Remember Elon Musk's reality is a stimulation quote?

He has been watching too many Matrix movies
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>>134404458
>>134404966
>>134405158
>>134405158
>>134405806
>>134406135
Fuck off you stupid fucking redditor.

Everyone has the right to call out you dumfuck redditors for believing in a quack who claims climate change is real while simultaneously claiming the universe is a stimulation as well at the same time.

You can't believe in both at the same time.
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>>134413692
>doesn't know what IDs are
>calls other people redditors
temper your autism m8
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>>134413240
>verbal approval
This

Fuck off twitter gossip
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>>134399943
Who said anything about a vacuum retard? Thats the HyperLoop

This is the underground tram/car system
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>>134391002
Musk is a conman. Is that even his real name? What a stupid name. What a stupid faggot.
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Can nyc fix the mta first? It is an absolute mess
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>>134391624
Not Boeing? It's definitely a typo
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>>134391002

Cool now niggers can rob hipsters in NY and be back in Philly in a half hour.
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>>134418043
Fucking murica man. You 'bore' tunnels
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>>134391373
>cant work

There is nothing preventing it from working, its just expensive.
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>>134391760
It's from D.C. To NYC. Both are fairly large.
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>all anti-musk posters

Why does /pol/ hate futuristic development
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>>134418742
We love futuristic development that actually works.
Not some literal pipe dream that is currently at the state of "experimental cart rolls for three meters and then stops".
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>>134406750
Yes lets span a massive vacuum tunnel across multiple regions with various air pressures and temperatures, we can totally engineer a large tunnel that can expand and contract to compensate for this loss. Also the cost and measures to maintain a vacuum in this environment are totally feasible.

Please lrn2 thermodynamics,
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>>134391002
I'd love to see this crazy hypahlupe technology. Of course this track is going to be under the beltway so it's basically never going to happen.
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>>134408212
Most underrated post this week.
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>>134398066
The vast majority of highly classified underground instillations within the US are connected via this technology.

They have used it for years to move personel secretly and more importantly black projects.

It is important to note that the president is not given access to all military development projects.

He is a temporary member of staff, while compartmentalisation means long serving and high ranking members of specific groups fall within the 'need to know'.
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>>134391002
How can I make money from this giant hole in the ground boondoggle?
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>>134419010
How much of a vacuum are they planning I doubt it's 30' of hg more like going from 14,psi to 10 I bet
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>>134420318

By Shorting Tesla stock.
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>>134397496
lool nice argument cuck
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>>134393179

Color TV, smart phones, vaccines, skyscrapers, coast to coast trains, fucking flying, all started out as pipe dreams. Yet, here we are!
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>>134395622
The matter / antimatter rings for FTL are probably not necessary.

We have a very strong correlation of gravity and mass (which falls apart on galactic scales), but no good theory for what the force of gravity comes from (other than quantum field theory).

Its reasonable to assume we will have better ideas of the cause of gravity before we decide to try to create / manipulate large amounts of anti-matter.

Its going to happen eventually either way.
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>>134420421
The Hyperloop belongs to SpaceX, not Tesla.
Also, remember to immediately sell your stock again before the first test run.
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>>134391129
>>134391509
>>134391624
>>134391669
>>134391760
>>134392531
>>134392693

If you hate Elon Musk, I think the best thing you can do to help society out, is to probably kill yourself, so the idiotic thoughts that your moronic mind produces cannot harm society or the induvidauls within it.

>b-b-but new technology's are expensive therefor we should remain in the stone age forever

This is an example of one of the very moronic thoughts your idiotic brains produce, and a great reason why you should just kill yourself to prevent, actual dangerous thoughts like yours from entering the mainstream.

Elon Musk is a great man, and tax payer funded or free market funded, either way, his inventions and innovations are highly needed and he is to be praised.
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>>134396202
kek
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Hyperloop doesn't work, there's whole two thunderf00t's videos on it.
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>>134420968
>Reddit: The Post
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>>134391002
We'z trainz 'n shit now.

Yuropoors kept shitting on us for not having le fast train lines, so the Madman actually ordered one built.
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>>134421151

>only reddit wants significant advances in technology

Actually, you are possibly right, /pol/ is a bastion of luddite scum.
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>>134406750
You blow up a pillar or shoot a small whole thing collapses and kills everyone

not hard to understand. theres even videos he provides of pressure chambers collapsing
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>>134391002
Nice now all the elitist city fags can travel to hang out with other elitist city fags. This is really going to help the average American! Can't wait to take the Hyperloop.
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>>134420968
This tbhfam
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>>134421094
/This
tfoot may be a faggot but he explains pretty well why this whole concept is utterly retarded.
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>>134391760
No idea on what he'll charge, but I do know from previous studies, the tube itself and initial outlay is the ONLY expensive part of this tech. Once it's up and running, you have minimal moving parts, incredible efficiency (near vacuum means near zero friction travel, electric acceleration and deceleration means Regenerative braking: energy used to accelerate it can be mostly (id guess 80% or better ) captured and reused.

The tech is very useful, very well past time to roll.out....except that it already was rolled out, In secret, and those who did so wanted to keep their tactical advantage.
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>>134420968
Haha what a faggot.
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>>134393474
ya they will.
the moral question is easy.

The economic advantages are too strong to ignore. 2030 is pessimistic.
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>>134421790

End your disgusting luddite life.
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>>134392765
>he fell for the self driving car meme
REMINDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION KILLED A JOURNALIST VIA CAR HACKING

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hastings_(journalist)
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Trump is finally letting companies build in America again. Dems are furious jobs are coming back.
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>>134395235
energy pulse weapons, which already has been developed by the us and the soviets.
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>>134421878
this is a problem, but its a separate problem.

you could just as easily kill someone by hijacking an adjacent car. Or by getting a hitman in a reinforced suburban to t-bone you at an intersection. Its not really a new problem, its just a problem.
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>>134422065
this is way easier than hitman. Just hack them and be done, no physical trail. This is dangerous tech, I would be more worried that they hack adjacent cars to crash into me if I'm still driving oldtech
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>>134406750
He literally addressed this very question in the video, did you even watch it?
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>>134421912
You're a fucking moron.
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>>134421869
Haha what a faggot.
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>>134391002
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>>134391002
"Verbal" approval is effectivly worth less than nothing, meaning its worth horse- or bullshit.

Very bad signal for this guy overall that he puts this kind of unverified and completely bogus stuff into the public realm.

I guess his other businesses must be in total shit if he has this kind of practices. Amateur Level = Maximum, i wouldn't do business with someone like that. Tweets like that are red lights all over for professionals.
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>>134391002
worlds largest vacumchamber is in usa and is used by nasa, they have 1 metres thick doors due to the pressure difference. Hyperloop is supposed to have 0,1 atm With 2 cm thick walls

its all impossible, only fools believe it
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>>134422346

Maybe you'd be happier living in sub Saharan Africa with other like minded individuals where technology never advances, and when it does, you all get in a rage and try to kill the ones who are advancing the tech.
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>>134422257
you could be killed today by hacking any car built since ~2000

and the hitman isnt hard either. not hard to hit and run. More expensive to do often, but its not extremely expensive.
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>>134391002
>verbal approval
>"If we say yes, will you stop bothering us?"
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>>134391002
I would be okay with this if approval was the only thing the government gave, not billions in taxpayer's money to stroke this idiot's ego.
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>>134392636
I wonder if taxpayers would be happy repaying a loan to investors over the course of deades in return for a stupid train powered by magnets or whatever. The hyperloop is just a piece of technology that gets nerds rock hard, I doubt it benefits common people at all.
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>>134422844
>0.1 atm with 2 cm thick walls
That actually sounds pretty reasonable
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>>134422328
Trump has been deregulating like crazy. I wouldn't be surprised if that helped Musk start sooner.
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>>134396202
now this is a post.
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>>134420968
>Elon Musk is a great man, and tax payer funded or free market funded, either way, his inventions and innovations are highly needed and he is to be praised.
What exactly he innovated and how are they "highly needed"?
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>>134420968
Those cars have shit I terrors and obvious fit and finish issues. I saw one on the road just the other day (California plates of course) where the front and rear doors were mis-aligned by almost an entire inch. That's excusable on a Hyundai, but not a car that's priced higher than a BMW or Mercedes. Don't get me wrong, I love the power potential electric engines offer. But Tesla is a tech company LARPing as an auto company. They still have a long way to go with their design before they can justify the price. As of now the only thing making those Cara worth it are the smug liberals who want to brag about their carbon footprint, or the guys who value speed so highly they'll buy a model s and live with the cheap apple knock off interior.
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>>134422587
It's a PR stunt to get his Reddit fanbase worked up.
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>>134406939
Yes, exposing a tube full of people travelling at 800mph to rapid pressurization(which would result in rapid loss of speed) is a fantastic idea that surely will end well for those involved.
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>>134422940
Oh man, what a fucking faggot. Haha.
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verbal approval means nothing
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>>134410834
What if there was a tennis ball in front of you and a schoolkid slowly climbing the fence opposite. I know I'd slow down in a white neighbourhood, but what are the chances your autocar would come to the same conclusion? You think it could determine the kid's age and gender in time to make the right assessment on likeliness to run?
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>>134392765
Hmm
>Block road
>Self driving truck stops
>Rob it
?????
>Profit
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>>134400112
>WE WAS CONE HEADS & SHEEEEEEIT
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>>134394592
Please go on
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>>134423089
I Guess you are trolling.
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>>134391669
Here's what one of the hyperloop guys said about these "busted" videos
Thunderfoot is a faggot
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>>134420968
musk is hurting these ideas because he's approaching them in a fucking retarded way and will poison them for decades when he inevitably fails and billions upon billions evaporate into thin air
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>>134391002
That shit isn't got going to be finished until the 22nd century at least.
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>>134391287
You underestimate the ability of niggers to ruin everything
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>>134424500
You could actually get gas density lower than that at 1atm just by using helium.
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>>134420968
I'm stealing this pasta
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>>134391229
The time is here
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>>134426980
So basically
>we pay some guys with good CVs a ton of money so we look legit
>everything is laid out in the white paper - except for the things that are bullshit, ignore those
>still no explanation as to how to make a thousand kilometer vacuum chamber feasible, safe and affordable

I get it, the guy has to say something. The hyperloop is still a scam.and everyone participating in it should be shot once it becomes clear that this is the case.
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>>134420968
can you really not recognize a con man when you see one?
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>>134391669
>armchair engineers acting like they know better than a multi billion dollar company
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>>134393300
>mfw my retarded government is giving him hundreds of millions to build a huge battery to power a state.
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>>134393227
>just make it above ground and plow through poor neighborhoods; save a ton of money
It would cost much more actually.. because this thing need to operate in a practical vacuum (one of the things that actually makes it untenable at present technology levels) In order to run it above ground you would need to create a structure that could withstand the pressures of such an immense vacuum,,, which would require materials from hell that were super strong and engineered perfectly… Underground would be the only way to accomplish this thing at present.. which it won't however, because its an impossibility at present.
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