God and Trump

>>134381550
god doesnt exist. made up fairytale to control people.

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>last chance to save the west
>jewish puppet
Delusion.
>>134381613
t. kike

>>134381651
you follow a kike-made religion.

>>134381613
>>134381651
>blackpilled stormfronters denying God exists

Ok brainlets

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>>134381550
And I will appoint my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.” 4 They are “the two olive trees” and the two lampstands, and “they stand before the Lord of the earth.”[a] 5 If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. 6 They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want.

7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city—which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt—where also their Lord was crucified. 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.

11 But after the three and a half days the breath[b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

13 At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14 The second woe has passed; the third woe is coming soon.

>>134381755
>accuses others of being brainlets
>followed an irrational thought process

zzz

>>134381804
So, did Trump's 1260 days start on the day he announced his candidacy?

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>>134381926
>irrational
Prove it faggot.

>>134381550
Take your kike on a stick ooga booga nonsense out of here.

>>134381550
Read what you just wrote again and if you are smart, you will understand just how stupid you sound.

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>>134381550
Rev. Peale was literally Trump's childhood pastor.

>>134381739
But let me guess: paganism didn't get subverted by (((them))) even though every other religion on the planet has?
Fuck off Varg we know it's you

>>134381926
Not believing in God is an irrational thought process

>>134381804
I don't think we're in the end days though.

My thought process is just reading through the Old Testament. When God's people go into battle, they win every battle no matter what happens, even if they are out-matched with no chance of winning. These battles are proven to have happened too with other historical documentation from ancient Eastern civilizations.

I think the same thing happened with our founding fathers. How the fuck did they beat the British empire? Because God favored them. They wanted liberty from the Satanic religion of cuckery in England, and they left. They were also Christians.

The same thing is happening right now with Donald Trump as it did with our founding fathers.

>>134382083
ok. god kills his own creation, which he supposedly loves unconditionally, because of an inherent trait he himself gave them, free will. Rational thought says that a creator would not punish his creation for the flaws he himself instilled upon his creation. And said creator certainly wouldnt blame the creation for its errors, but himself.

>but free will!

god gave you free will.

>>134382308
all organized religion is a crutch for the intellectually weak and irrational.

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>>134381755
>>134381739
I never denied the existence of God. Americans are truly the stupidest on earth...

>>134381550
Not necessarily, Steven Anderson is the most based preacher you have in America and he completely dismisses Trump as an ungodly adulterer.

>>134382303
Okay but Rev Peale is a complete hack and borderline NWO-tier Christian propaganda.

But I think Trump understands the general idea and believes in God, and I think God is using him because he is willing, and other more zealous Christians are not willing.

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>>134381550
YEAH!!!

>>134382325
which god? your god? why your god?

>>134381550
trump is an incompetent stooge who cant even save himself

>>134382325
Don't forget the part where God helps those who help themselves. Effort and skill is required.

>>134382355
>supposedly loves unconditionally

God loves his followers unconditionally. He does not love haters of God, that's why he sends them to hell.

>it's not fair that we're here so God's not here

Cry about it

>>134381550
You're off your fucking rocker

>>134381550
Im agnostic and i love trump, if i were to ever turn to religion i would go pagan

>>134382456
>Rev Peale is a complete hack
>Members of Peale's congregation are among the richest and most powerful men in the world
The first is opinion, the second is fact. Just because wikipedia says people criticized his self-help methods doesn't mean they don't work.

>>134382308
Spinozism is the true redpill religion
>no kike on stick
>no fedora tipping
>no mud hut pagan LARP
>no self-combustion

>>134381613
>THIS is what your average goytheist believes

>>134382394
Follow glorious communism with no gods. Truly best system for strong people

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>>134382355
>free will is real

>>134382433
I agree with 97% of what Anderson says except for his irrational hatred of Trump.

His criticisms of Trump hardly make any sense. He doesn't even address Trump's opposition to the NWO and his revoking of the Johnson amendment.

>>134382506
>drumpf is dumb
Yet he was elected President against all odds?

How embarrassing for you.

>>134382627
you didnt dispute any of my points, just shoved yours in my face. you seem to really know god's intentions, you guys best pals or something? or are you just interpreting the old testament (which you should ignore according to jesus) however you want to to justify your beliefs?

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>>134382680
>Spinoza's ancestors were of Sephardic Jewish descent and were a part of the community of Portuguese Jews

>>134382751
>he thinks god makes all his major decisions for him

>>134382712
Get out of here commie stink scum. When our people got tired of your piece of shit Marxist anal excretions you crushed and shot them with tanks. Workers paradise my ass.

>>134382712
any system with no gods is the best system for strong people. religion is for weak people who need justification for doing good things or living. sad!

>>134381804
give a chapter and verse damn it!

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>>134381550
Trump was 70 yrs, 7 months & 7 days of age on Inauguration Day 2017, the Hebrew Year 5777. Seven is the number of completeness and perfection; material and spiritual.

>>134382954
I'd love to see your moral system that is self-regulating.

>>134382355
>muh "God made humans so it's his fault we sin" argument
>Reddit spacing
Go back to r/atheism

>>134382874
Then I am switching back to atheism. I Rather fedora tip than follow kikes.

>>134381550
Its funny, my pastor did a sermon on something similar.


god uses man, be they pius or unjust, for his will equally

>>134382834
>You seem to know God's intentions

Romans 1:18-32 says that God takes his hand off of reprobates and gives them over to a "reprobate" (or animalistic) mind. These people go to hell after they've rejected God.

>Jesus says to ignore the old testament

Lmao wtf are you talking about? There is a new sacrifice system set up after Jesus' death, but the Old Testament is not supposed to "be ignored". The God of the old testament is the same God of the New Testament.
"I did not come to abolish the law, I have come to fulfill it".

>>134382900
Its either Providence or the unavoidable paths of sub atomic particles. Free will is a myth. It is false for both Theism and Atheism.

>>134381550

OP is a true Patrician and Trump is a new Prophet.

>>134383049
it's called being a good person for the sake of being a good person. radical concept i know. You dont need religion for it, crazy i know. q

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>>134381550
>says that studies the bible
>doesn't post these verses
Read more son.

Daniel 2:21
He changes times and seasons; he deposes kings and raises up others. He gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to the discerning.

Romans 13:1
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

>>134383086
not an argument

>>134381550
>There is a theory
>OP is talking out of their asshole
Choose both.

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>>134383011
Revelation 11
>>134383106
Thank God Jews hate atheism and attack it as often as possible right?

>>134383142
fucking kek, yea im sure it's god's fault too that you're a virgin failure in life right.

>>134383142
If you don't have free will then it is not your fault you think you have free will, nor that anyone argues about it, because we are all puppets.

Don't you see how worthless the above philosophy is? You can prove behavior is genetically influenced but if you're arguing people aren't in control of their actions you should lobby to reform the justice system.

>>134383134
pick and choose, pick and choose. bet your faggot ass has 2 types of cloth on right now

The God of the Bible is an imposter. More like the mascot of a few bad franchises.

God did, however, use Trump to exercise His will.

>>134381550
I'm starting to believe it after the "Trump Curse" kept shreking people.

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>>134383045
He comes off as a complete maroon and not very Christ-like at all, but there's just too many weird coincidences surrounding the guy.

> "hurr I have a theory about God u guise"

>>>/x/

>>134383172
It isn't a radical concept, it is a fictional concept.

You haven't even described what being good means or how to know what is good or bad.

At least a Darwinist can say good behaviors are those that support a group's survival and bad behaviors threaten survival of the group. This is game theory so actions that might benefit an individual are often not the best choice for the group's long term survival.

>>134383142
Then go back to following you predetermined programming robot. An oxygen particle is misguiding your neuron almonds.

>>134383436
fucking this

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>>134383408
Of course this all ties into the August eclipse and September happening.

>>134382433
King David was a murderer. God still liked him. Fucking christtards with your everyone must be holier than thou or god hates them shit.

>>134383306
Nice!
>>134383309
I'm not talking about genetics. I'm talking about electrons and quarks. Cause and effect. An electron has not free will. Certainly we can agree on this. Yet we are essentially made of elections and empty space. The only case to be made for free will resides in Theism yet I don't see a way to marry that with an omnipotent God which seems to me to be a logical necessity; unmoved mover and all.
> lobby to reform the justice system.
Fuck niggers though.

>>134382394
Every atheist thinks they are a genius... You tired, and corny, nigga.

>>134383286
If you don't follow Jewish fedora tippers you are OK. Not going back to kike on a stick worship.

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>>134383498
Part 1

>>134383463
how are you this dense that you dont see the relationship between what i posted and what you did. I am a darwinist. Darwinists would say humans work on the golden rule, do onto others as you want done onto you, because that is literally what supports the group's overall survival. Something is good because collectively, society deems that action as having utility to the group. This concept is completely devoid of any religious input

>>134383479
Maybe I already am? Whose to say? What makes you think you have free will anyways? Desire?

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>>134383670
Part 2

>>134383559
i said organized religion, not a belief in god.

>>134381550
Am Antichrist
can debunk
#I'mWithHim

>>134381550
>hardly a single celebrity died during the Obama years

>Patrick McGoohan
>Ricardo Montalban
>Bea Arthur
>Don DeLuise
>David Carradine
>Ed McMahon
>Farrah Fawcett
>Michael Jackson
>Billy Mays
>Walter Cronkite
>John Hughes
>Patrick Swayze
>Brittany Murphy
>Dennis Hopper
>Leslie Neilsen
>Gary Coleman
>Tony Curtis
>Amy Winehouse
>Elizabeth Taylor
>Steve Jobs
>Ryan Dunn
>Randy Savage
>Whitney Houston
>Michael Clarke Duncan
>Neil Armstrong
>Dick Clark
>Andy Griffith
>Nora Ephron
>Ray Bradbury
>Paul Walker
>Cory Monteith
>James Gandolfini
>Joan Rivers
>Robin Williams
>Philip Seymour Hoffman
>Richard Attenborough
>Harold Ramis
>Bob Hoskins
>Casey Kasem
>Wes Craven
>Christopher Lee
>BB King
>Muhammad Ali
>David Bowie
>Leonard Cohen
>Carrie Fisher

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>>134383655
Everyone will bend the knee eventually.

>>134383535
How unfortunate for you that the quarks of the universe aligned for you to submit that substandard post. After all, the Universe controlled your fingers across the keyboard and (You) had no say in the matter because you're just a worthless self-replicating meatbag in the randomness of random.

I wish you were in the same room as me so I could physically assault you until you told me that I had free will to stop beating your ass.

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>>134383737
Part 3

>>134383755
Checked.

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>>134383799
Part 4

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>>134383836
Part 5/final

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>>134383752
>crutches are bad
>the Mob can control its appetite by itself

>>134381550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyV7kwMRzdo
scroll to 5:15, man predicted trump would bring ppl closer to god in 80's

>>134383782
this, people ignore the bigger picture to see a tiny pixel. this "trump curse" people talk about, if it were so effective, people would be dropping dead left and right. In reality, so many are opposed to him that it's just statistically more likely that people against him will die than people who are for him, the two pools of people are uneven.

>>134383784
>I wish you were in the same room as me so I could physically assault you until you told me that I had free will to stop beating your ass.
Jokes on you. I'm a solipsist.

>>134383694
You're the moron who said "good person" like it is some universal bullshit. And Golden Rule only works if the other party reciprocates, not the cuck-version that Christianity insists exists.

Too bad you couldn't call yourself a Darwinist to begin with and I had to both suggest and inform your worthless mind.

>>134383345
All of this is specified in Hebrews. Those rituals are revoked.

>>134383885
good argument

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>>134381550
If you doubt Trump is religious

>Trump has had relationships with a number of Christian spiritual leaders, including Florida pastor Paula White, who has been called his "closest spiritual confidant."[59] In 2015, he received a blessing from Greek Orthodox priest Emmanuel Lemelson[60] and in 2016, he released a list of his religious advisers, including James Dobson, Jerry Falwell Jr., Ralph Reed and others.

Also Melania opened a Trump speech reciting the Bible.
He also said after the art of the deal the Bible is his favorite book, nothing beats the bible
He was also raised Christian, he's not pretending.

>>134383980
It is. The Mob is clinically retarded and needs institutions to guide it. Every civilization has a state religion; a mythos, or something beyond itself for people to strive towards. Without that we are little better than dogs.

>>134383966
you sure got me anon! your semantics have convinced me of your point! not your arguments (of which there are none)!

good person is universal, in a first world society, as how i defined it. if you need that definition defined for you, you're a garbage person with no inner morals or ethics, who is only good for others, only good because of the fear of eternal damnation.

>>134384121
>people are stupid
>you must treat stupid people as stupid and never educate them
>they will eventually not be stupid

you're not doing them a favor by introducing a crutch to them.

>>134384263
>>they will eventually not be stupid
I don't recall ever implying that. There will always be an underclass that needs guidance. Bell curves are magic.

>>134383923
watch the whole thing to better understand the story

>>134383928
If you talk about celebrities and other people that go into the performing arts then yes, people in the performing arts are more likely to oppose anything not left. She did win doe, no bulli

>>134383962
That fucking solipsism. How do I know that me and everyone here isn't a NPC in some dudes life?

>>134384493
at this point im talking about all americans. more americans dislike trump than like him. Statistically, everyday more people who dislike trump die than people who like him.

>>134384376
>There will always be an underclass that needs guidance.
sigh i want to argue against this but i cant. wp anon.

>>134384146
>good is universal
You might be surprised how some cultures treat outsiders. Being "good" to the in-group might be near universal, for other groups it varies wildly. Plus the part where multiculturalism destroys the in-group community and degenerates to tribalism.

>no morals or ethics
>fear of damnation
I disagree with your statement because morals and ethics are not universal and ow the edgehog needs to explain his fedora version of morals and ethics.

>>134383782
That's actually not that many after 8 years in comparison to what we've had in the trump years so far.

Most of the deaths are anti-trumpers too.

>>134384625
Exactly she basically won but Trump stole the election with stupid Electoral College system he probably paid for with his business cockbuddies.

>>134384727
that's why i said "in a first world society". i knew someone would be nitpicky.
morals and ethics would be defined as (again, first world society) that which benefits the society with minimal impact on the individual. I could get really really sementic with it but let's leave it there for now, im sure you'll want to pick out individual examples where that definition crumbles though

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>>134384522
Well you know you aren't. There is no way to tell if I am or not.

>>134384522
>>134383962
Solipism is a literally-doesn't-matter philosophy like "living in a simulation" everything is exactly the same fucking same if it was or wasn't true and the best thing you could hope for would be advanced physics or "cheat codes" or magic to modify your surroundings.

What's the difference between advanced physics, cheatcodes or magic? There is no difference. You do something with the intention of getting a result.

>>134384929
im strictly talking about statistics, not politics

>>134384794
I only listed notable ones.

>>134384950
Our first world society is full of anarchists, communists, feminists, niggers, jews and all kinds of people with college degrees who share no ethics or morals with you and merely avoid legal consequences of their actions.

Your assumptions are shit.

>>134384794
see>>134383928

Who has the punished Trump meme with Bannons quote about jews along withTrumps mentor and kushners backstory

>>134384929
You're a fucking faggot, she didn't win shit except free room and board in prison, a prize she'll be getting very soon.

>>134384963
You are a good NPC. I hope you are a main character who will give me some quests in the future.

>>134384929
>By law the Electors of the Electoral College determine the president
>get mad you didn't pay attention in civics class

>>134381550
>I don't think this is far-fetched from a Christian/Biblical perspective
Amerifats, leading the world in the percentage of their adults who believe in angels.
Today in the news, China has performed a quantum teleportation experiment as a proof-of-concept that will allow a quantum internet that will be superfast and cannot be securely eavesdropped.
Amerifats can use it to argue about silly shit while the rest of the world moves into a bright future.

>>134385161
i have a degree. and those people who dont agree with the golden rule in first world societies are a tiny minority. and i think you're confusing "ethics and morals" with "opinions". they dont share the same opinions as me. and im fine with that.

>>134384985
Well it's clear either way that Trump supporters aren't majority.
Give me the sauce for Americans for vs against Trump plis? <3
I want to rub it in peoples faces but I won't be mean like most people here I swearsies
>>134385220
Eat shit.
>Hardcore Parkour where the Black Women at??

>>134384964
>What's the difference between advanced physics, cheatcodes or magic? There is no difference.
Of course there's a difference, cheatcodes and magic make the desire behind intention a higher priotity than the rules of the universe. Idiots have wanted to just wish for things and make them happen forever.
Advanced physics, whatever that is, does not prioritise infantile omnipotence.

>>134382325
The angry god was just our creators being dicks to their slaves, and then they just up and left.
The nice god after that was the benevolent beings that wanted to help us get out of the shit our creators put us through.
I don't believe anyone has ever spoken to god himself, only his representatives or other advanced species.
Either way, I still believe that the end will start this year and will be done by 2020-2022.

>>134385573
>really want something to happen
>want it so bad that I put effort into making it happen
>It happens
>idiots think it was magic because it was fueled by my desire

donald trump is more powerful now than moses, jesus, and muhammad combined in their own lifetimes. may virile strength and safety be upon him.

>>134385417
You are proof that they'll give a degree to anyone these days.

Keep projecting your thinking onto other people just like that Feminist did when she tried to hitchhike to Syria to prove Muslims weren't murderers.

>>134385356
Okay so what?
Because it exists as a system it's okay?
Go fuck yourself you wittle cutey.

>>134384929
Hurts to be beaten by a literal nobody at the start who charmed half of the country with great memes, promises and edgy speech. Should have choosen someone else, burgers will never vote for a socialists like Bernie because they are one step away from becoming communists, Hillary is an establishment wreck who has too much mistakes and dirt on her. Maybe choose a Asian gay Buddhist transgender xer person as your candidate for 2020 elections you will surely win!

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What the fuck is wrong with you?
Trump is a complete joke.
His administration is in a state of complete chaos.
No legislation has been passed for 6 months.
He has broken most of his promises.
Wake the fuck up.
It was fun beating Hillary.
But now it's time to recognize that Trump is a clown owned by the Goldman Sachs bankers.
What the hell is wrong with you?

>>134385916
speaking of projecting, you realize not all degrees are SJW BAs right?
Please try and go get yourself a physics degree.

>>134385975
You ignored how the system worked and lost. Either change the system or win within it. You only get three strikes in baseball, so I'd recommend not expecting to be given a fourth.

>>134381550
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KvxwrrPGwo

>>134381550
Donald Trump is literally the distilled, compressed, toxic stew that was birthed from the collective American psyche. His sagging, fat, sickly form is without doubt the ultimate expression of the American disease.

>>134385417
I hate the people that try to argue 'hurr durr good morals and ethics are objective because muh muh society and group integrity'.
It's cool you don't let opinions get to you like that keep doing you boo.
>>134385990
Nice, your forced humor really showed me huh?
I guess i'm with HIM now duhrr.
All the dirt on Hillary is bullshit anyway.
My emails my emails!
Quite literally nothing.
Considering most Trump supporters are now ashamed of being a load of messy wreckage, I probs will get who we want next election.

Who has the punished Trump meme with Bannons quote about jews along withTrumps mentor and kushners backstory

>>134381613
I rarely do this but
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>>134382506

Trump's "dopy-ness" is an act, much like George W. Bush. Some of the elite have figured out that if they act like buffoons, it makes them more relatable to the common man. Republicans are much better at this than the Democrats.

>>134386554

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>>134386614
>i was merely pretending to be retarded!

>>134386203
Honestly I voted Hillary and i'm a little disappointed I didn't vote Bernie to beat Trump.
But that doesn't change the fact it's shitty.
People like you are such hypocrites, like duhr poor people and foreigners are dead weight!! But when I complain about the areas with more Electoral college numbers that are red states it's suddenly okay and 'evens things out' (equity). That's really stupid and all of you should be ashamed you'd even defend shitty behavior like this, you people are cold and it's not necessary and not okay.

>>134386714
And your sentence was? Sorry if I misenterpeited but that sounded like the knee jerk reaction of a lazy atheist.

>>134384020
kek, look up those pastors this shill mentioned and ask yourselves if those are the kinds of pastors that Christ would approve of.

>>134387239
shit ive been found out...

>>134384020
those people arnt religious lmfao, they are smart con artists who take money from religious people.

>>134381550
>God selects the first Atheist president who can't quote the bible and lies about going to church to save the West

What did (((Yahweh))) mean by this?

>>134387581
Who's that? Obama?

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>>134387476
Haha I have you at last!

>>134381613
*tips menorah*

>>134388139
i agree, it was made up by the jews to control goyim.

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>>134383694

This.

>>134383694
First of all, what do you think religion even is? You think people instinctively operate on the golden rule? everything has to taught. If it wasn't necessary, religion wouldn't be around. Like it or not, there are christian values in the bedrock of the enlightenment that is the foundation of the american experiment. Atheists and communists always seem to have a blind spot for that context

>>134387709
>lies about going to church

Remember when people were pissed that Obama went to the wrong church?

>>134388662
>Like it or not, there are christian values in the bedrock of the enlightenment that is the foundation of the american experiment.
i do not deny this. why i disagree with is the claim those values are inherently christian. they are not. If they were, other groups of people would have never came to the same conclusions without exposure to christianity. which they do, see asia.
>You think people instinctively operate on the golden rule?
yes. until they are taught otherwise.
>everything has to taught.
no. there are inherent traits that all humans share, such as a pursuit of pleasure/happiness instead of harm. you may argue these are instincts, i would as well.
> If it wasn't necessary, religion wouldn't be around
which is why it is slowly losing favor in society. because it is no longer needed as a mechanism to control those who do not know better.

>>134389139
what i disagree with*

>>134383197
>Romans
do you get it
maybe, if you lived in Palestine during the Romish occupation
render unto Caesar what is Caesars

>>134388763
He went to mosque, didn't he?
Obama (Barry Soetoro) grew up in my country.

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>>134383885
>>the Mob can control its appetite by itself
How numerous are the crowds that have heroically faced death for beliefs, ideas, and phrases that they scarcely understood!
- Gustave Le Bon

>>134386013
just being cockblocked by congress. Need liberty focused candidates to run all across the country! drain the swamp!

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>>134387581
Trump cites God constantly in his speeches. Look at his recent Poland speech.

Whether it's a cultural thing or a spiritual thing, I believe he either believes in the value of the Christian God or he actually believes in God. I take his word that he believes in God for a few reasons:

1. He seems hellbent on preserving God as a value of the west. There are other nationalists who are a bit more atheist and are not into God so much, but Trump is. He has made a point that God a "value that must be preserved to advance the west". I don't think he would highlighting this so much if he didn't believe God was real.

2. He is the only candidate to address the Johnson ammendment, and then actually revoke it. He also seems hellbent on making the church weaponize and mobilize. He clearly does not see the institution of the Christian religion to be a problem, but an asset instead.

3. I think there could be some level of divine protection around him. Not saying that he isn't a hard-working machiavellian mad-man, but he has literally had a good portion of the planet and (((them))) at his throat since the day he started this battle. Every time they try to stop him (which is a weekly occurance) he just plows right through them and keeps going. It's nearly inhuman. It reminds me of reading about the early wars of America.

So those are some reasons I believe Trump is safeguarded by God, as God is offering America one last chance to redeem itself. There are many pastors who think Trump is a disgusting heathen, but I disagree because your average Christian would never have the balls to stand up to the Satanic globalists in a million years.

>>134389139
>yes. until they are taught otherwise.
Highly suspect. What do you mean by "taught"? by other people? If so where did the first person learn to not be inherently good to all other people?

>no. there are inherent traits that all humans >share, such as a pursuit of >pleasure/happiness instead of harm. you may >argue these are instincts, i would as well.

Instincts don't mean anything on their own. It's all about how they get absorbed into the consciousness of the individual. People can form very backwards and unproductive relationships with their own impulses.

>which is why it is slowly losing favor in society > because it is no longer needed as a >mechanism to control those who do not know >better.
People didn't start recording their oral traditions and pass them down for thousands of years to control the masses. They were telling stories to teach lessons.Because humans can learn from stories instead of making a mistake personally. It's losing favor because of the philosophical landscape that we're in, and because other forces are vying for the same resource (ie, people's hearts)

>>134381550
Back during the election Trump did kind of overthrow the Pope and inherit his authority, so this makes sense.

>>134391885
>Highly suspect. What do you mean by "taught"? by other people? If so where did the first person learn to not be inherently good to all other people?
not necessarily by other people, but it can be (and often is).
>where did the first person learn to not be inherently good to all other people?
as soon as he learned there was more selfish utility by screwing over another. But selfish utility doesnt equal overall societal utility.
>Instincts don't mean anything on their own
i disagree, they mean a shitload, to survival, reproduction, everything.
>People didn't start recording their oral traditions and pass them down for thousands of years to control the masses.
agreed, that's not the reason they started, but some people realized it could be used to control people, and that's what they did, by forming religion (organized religion).

>>134392311
The only people who thinks that the Pope is not a hell-bound pedo king are Catholics though

Holy shit I must live in somewhat of a bubble. I never meet a catholic IRL but on /pol/ catholicism is a popular belief

>>134382038
If so,
Trump announced candidacy June 16 2015
1260 days after that is Nov 27th 2018

>>134382394
**tips fedora** m'lady

>>134382456
I have read his book and the criticisms of it.

People take it way too fucking seriously. It's basically a guide how to absorb day-to-day life with examples. It's a self help book with religious overtones because he's a fucking preacher.

>>134383923
Thanks for this. Very interesting.

>>134396830
*opens bible* "m'gawd"

>>134397093
>you just have to interpret it correctly!
you're a fucking fool. he means what he writes. why would he not. oh sorry i forgot, it's 382934D interdenominational checkers which you have to be ordained to understand! of course!

>>134397271
Why does this get you so fired up? It's just a book to help people.

Where did your preacher touch you senpai?

>>134397886
because religion is used to convince masses to justify atrocities. I have no issue with it helping people, when it is used improperly is when i get annoyed
>Where did your preacher touch you senpai?
i wasnt raised religiously and did not attend church until highschool, when i attended a religious school (high tier, scholarship). saw the irrationality there. Saw the harm it could do to convince people of irrational things.

>>134398322
It's been some time since I read it, but I don't think there is a chapter on Praying After Nuking the Fuck Out of a Country.

I get your point, but 95% of the people reading it understand it is what it is and it's a guide for help.

>>134398588
i cant argue against this, but i just wish people did not need a guide for help. We are complete as we are, with all of our inherent flaws. But i know im a minority with my confidence in myself.

>>134385677
Witnessed

>>134385677
>bad god being a dick
>good god free the slaves
This is literally gnosticism dude.

>>134392311
checked

>>134390471
>Cockblocked by congress
>Controls congress

Obama was cockblocked by Republicans for years, and still got shit done. If Trump cannot get legislation passed in 6 months with a majority, even basic things like Obamacare, which Republicans rallied against for 7 fucking years, it speaks volumes to how ineffectual he is as a leader.

NIGGERS AND JEWS
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>>134381550
I'm a Christian and I had a very strong compulsion to start supporting Trump that was very similar to the very same spiritual experiences that led me to finally bow to God and Christ after living as an atheist/occultist for most of my life.
The hardest part about getting people to believe is getting them to understand what I've experienced. It's just not something that I think happens to everyone. There has to be a good reason for our Lord to feel the need to compel us.

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I feel like everyone in this thread more or less agrees that we can't really know anything.

In that vein God both is and is not real. Historically so many things have been done in god's name so he plays a big part in all of our lives. There is value in traditions teaching you to be humble and believe in things larger than yourself. Me and my wife won't believe in God but we go to an Anglican church. Pious people are generally hard working and make excellent connections. Theres a reason these traditions evolve and more often than not the instutions that make up modern religion were always developing even analagously. Pretty much the sum total of all of our culture and propriety. You can still be like Christ if you don't believe in God, only a fool would think otherwise.

>>134398322
Religious schools are fucking garbage.

Major turn-off to Christianity and theology. Don't relate your experience at any religious school to God.

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>>134381550
This, this is retarded.

OP here

I love how triggered everyone is over this post.

>>134400332
why not? they literally caught christianity and theology. why would it be different in a different environment? if anything they actually taught it with an open mind that it's for the overall good, and it still contained irrational bullshit

>>134400696
It's probably because deep down they consider it to be a possibility even if only a tiny one, which causes a series of other things to show up in their head that they don't want to consider to be true either. The hallmarks of a person with a closed mind -- whether they wish to admit it or not.

>>134381613
God exists but the altered (((bible))) wants you to believe about a man with white beard on a cloud.

God is light, literally.
God is like the force in star Wars. Everywhere.

>>134381804
>They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying;

Remember the inauguration? Sunshine while his speech. rain before, rain after.

sick

>>134381613
Repent

THERE IS NO GOD BUT KEK AND TRUMP IS HIS MESSENGER

>>134400812
Religious schools are marxist/NWO controlled indoctrination centers, just like all academic environments are.

They've just tailored it to make it a non-sensical ideology to tame and neuter the Christian base and make them into apathetic cuckholds. I actually denounced my Christianity after attending a Christian university for 1 year, then came back to Christianity about 4 years later when I realized what had happened.

>>134381550
>I believe Trump is somewhat aware of God and probably acknowledges Him to some degree, otherwise he wouldn't continually acknowledge Him in his speeches
Yeah im sure the fact conservasheeps are overwhelmingly cucktian is not the real reason

>>134401299
Yep.

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>>134381550

He is Andi Krist - Djjal Jinn- anti (g)host

> There is only one GOD

>>134408067
Nah. The only country leader that fits that title currently is Trudeau.

What does "scoop" mean in the context of OP's picture?

>>134381613
It was a made up fairy tail to protect western civilisation from anarchy. And we see what happens without it.

TRUMP NEEDS TO FIRE MUELLER
GOD WANTS TRUMP TO TAKE HIS PLACE IN HISTORY

>>134409683
>It was a made up fairy tail to protect western civilisation from anarchy. And we see what happens without it.

ah so you're admitting that white people are retards

makes sense except hellenic civilization predates jesus by just a couple years