*sips tea*

BLUMPF BTFO

>>134376267
>rich people horde their money they are evil and don't put it back in the economy
>Trump is a retard for not hoarding his money and instead using it to create businesses and get people jobs

>>134376267
Yeah but then he wouldnt own any businesses or property

Time in the market is worth more than the same money out of the market. Those funds would have fucked during 08 and what Trump learned from all those failing businesses is worth more the money.

If you dont know this you can't be rich without luck or crime. No, I'm sorry, it's just not possible. You don't have the mindset.

>>134376267
>He could've spent his career finger painting

No, instead Trump built a brand out of his own name and became a US President.

Of all the anti-Trump arguments, this one is the dumbest. It shows a complete lack of imagination and ambition.

>>134376267
And now he owns businesses and real estate all over the world. You leftist jackasses don't think too deep do you?

Its called liquidity

does this btich actually WANT for people to start referring to her as Captainess Hindsight?

>>134376267
This is exactly why liberal commies are fucking useless. If Trump had done that, we wouldn't have Trump hotels to stay at, or Trump golf courses to play at.

They are naive when it comes to economics and imagine absolutely everything is linear. They probably imagine if the Vatican gives up its gold, everyone will be able to eat--as if people could eat gold. They don't even comprehend the basic concept of trade being real-time, let alone supply and demand.

Liberals are fucking dumb. Dumber than insects. And must be treated as such for those of us who are not dumb to remain healthy.

>Oh no, hes only super-rich and not incredibly super-rich!
Moron, How would he have helped anyone if he just gained money off (((inflation))). Real Estate and business is fun, you should try working in your life for once.

>>134376267
If I had invested my pizza money into Amazon i would be worth billions

>>134376267
this is how jews make money

white men build shit for the fun of, not to make money

>Create 500+ successful businesses and thousands of jobs
>Fingerpaint all day every day for 60 years until you have billions
It's a no brainer.

>>134376412
It's net worth retard

>>134376267
>"I have MADE MYSELF very rich by choosing to take risks by trying and failing at different businesses because I enjoy the challenge."
Vs
>"I threw my money at some Jews and they invested it somewhere. I get a big check occasionally so I can keep eating caviar and doing nothing."

Climbing the mountain vs Taking the ski lift

I'd love to see the math on that. Trump's father passed in 1998 with a net worth of $200m, which was split 3 ways.

>>134376267

That was already debunked (they calculated him receiving his inheritance decades before he actually did) and he wouldn't have created a single job (instead of the tens of thousands he already did.)

>>134376267
Yet this guy put this money to good use and is now the most powerful man in the world. Whatever he does, books will talk about him in the centuries to come.
Love him, hate him, he still experienced life more than all of us will ever do.

>>134378079
This.

>>134377954
>If Drumpf had done that, we wouldn't have Drumpf hotels to stay at, or Drumpf golf courses to play at

yes because the free hand of the market wouldn't have replaced those shitholes with another business...

>>134376267
Well, Deborah Friedell, at least he will have been a President of the United States.

>Drops mic

>>134376267
>managing a million dollars vs. managing hundreds of millions
fucking retards don't know anything about being rich

>if trump had put his father's money
And how would he have done that with several siblings and a mother?

>>134376267

>if Trump would've done X then Y would have happened instead.

why didn't Deborah Friedell do this? I mean, clearly her ability to understand investment and make sound monetary judgements are the backbone of being a smalltime editor of...the London Review of Books

>In January 2010, The Times claimed that the London Review of Books was £27m in debt to the Wilmers' family trust, although the trust had "no intention of the lender seeking repayment of the loan in the near future".[6]

>mutual fund
>not index fund

>>134376267
There's gotta be alot more than that in intangible/illiquid assets, he's got a shitton of hotels.
Trump tower alone, if it was put on the market, would be over 500 million

>>134376267
If only i would have bought amazon stock when it was a start up company. Anytime people say shit like OP pic, it just makes me laugh. Hindsight is 20/20, what if he had invested it all and the market fucking collapsed and vanished? Let's just make up a whole bunch of hypotheticals sense we cant actually talk about reality.

>>134379843

He's got a lot of debt. pays itself out, but he didn't just drop dimes on these hotels. He's not in any financial trouble by any means, but this is probably what he would get if he liquidated everything he owned.

>>134376267
1) I doubt this is correct
2) He would have needed to sell stock to finance his lifestyle which I imagine is very expensive
3) He would have needed to sell stock to buy nice properties he is using for vacations or to live in. This would have costed him likely a large portion of any profits.
4) It's always better to have a real business that is functioning than owning exclusively stocks and hoping that this will go on forever.

He has now lots of stocks and lots of very valuable real estate. I'd say he is set himself and his next generations quite well.

Btw this shit trying to paint him as a business loser by leftists who often struggle to pay their next rent is completely retarded.
Please go ahead and beat him, want to see that.

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>>134376267
>IF TRUMP WOULD HAVE KNOWN THE FUTURE, HE'D BE EVEN RICHER
>LOL WHAT A RETARD

>>134376267
Where's the pride in that? I know women might not be able to fathom it, but Trump probably gets a fair bit of satisfaction from feeling like he's built his wealth with his own hands, not sure he'd have gotten that via investing it and forgetting about it.

>trump actually takes his money and spends and invests it into creating jobs all across the country
>meanwhile liberals are complaining about the 1% pooling money and not investing it into communities

???

>>134380068
It's probably not even true. They could say the same shit then about Bill Gates whose father was rich or George Soros.
Why don't they fucking complain that their heroes should have just invested in stock and not have done what they did.

Hyper Intellectuals are so damn smart that they are living in small shitty flats. But they know it all.
Hahahaha Drumpf

>he should of sat on his ass like I would do because I'm a lazy puke who expects everything to be handed to me

>>134378137
???wut
he's saying if it were left alone he wouldn't have the popularity he does now nor the businesses.

>>134378751
>books will talk about him in the centuries to come
as the most ineffectual president ever elected to the office. Judging by how little he's accomplished so far, history will not be kind to trump.

I mean this strategy was so obvious at the time, please list Trump's contemporaries who became billionaires by this method.

>>134381064
>based on the first 6 months, I know how history will remember him 50 years from now

>>134376267
>Not owning property instead
Property is the single greatest investment. OP is a faggot

>>134382573
>six months marked by ego driven scandal and incompetence is suddenly going to change
I highly doubt it. The man is an idiot

>>134382890
>The man is an idiot

This! I heard he took remedial math at Wharton.

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>>134376267
And if I spent all of my time mining for bitcoins in 2010 and finger-painting instead of working, I would be a multimillionaire by now but I'm not a fucking psychic like you.

>>134376267
>Ignores all the billions he's spent on things like a giant ass private jet, along with all the other luxuries he gives himself

Why are they so bad at math?

This is as pathetic as when his tax returns were released and showed him earning hundreds of millions in a year and some retards called that proof he isn't a billionaire.

>>134380884

Yes and those businesses and properties all devalued and lost money. Trump literally lost money by doing business.

>>134376267
Yeah in hindsight he could have done that. But instead he built a 3 billion dollar empire.

>>134383029
A rich white guy went to Wharton in the 60s. No surprise there. That aside, I'm not judging him based on his schooling, but his conduct and decision making. He has no idea how to run a country.

>>134383103
>Trump literally lost money by doing business

Them how did he make money? He didn't get an inheritance until 1998, and his dad was only worth $200m at his peak.

>>134376267
This assumes he didn't spend any of his loan while investing (putting it all in the index fund) so he'd starve.

>>134383182
>his conduct and decision-making

Yeah, he's a real dunce. He stumbled into $8 billion dollars and the presidency.

>if Trump had invested his dad's money buying Google stocks he'd have $800 billion now

haha, Blumpf dumped the f**k off again! x-D

>>134376267
He's just jealous that women don't let him near their anatomy.

>>134376267
S&P funds didn't even exist until 1976, and weren't widely known until the early 80's. Trump would have had to invent the S&P500 fund, then invest in it, and then spend $0 for the rest of his life.

>>134376267
This has been thoroughly debunked

God why am I reply to a slide thread

If he had put everything in bitcoin in 2010, hed have bajillions. What a lamewad

>>134376267
This completely blows the theory that "making money while wealthy under a capitalist system is difficult" out of the fucking water

Too big to fail

>>134378117
>licensing your name to other companies = creating a successful business
>businesses that are currently losing him money = successful business
>hundreds of shell companies = successful business

>>134376267

Yeah and if I would have saved over 200 BTC when they were worth less than a dollar per coin instead of playing poker with them I'd be a lot richer too. What the fuck is your point faggot?

>>134376267
1. Trump created jobs instead of just playing the stock market like a parasite, and encouraged spending, which increases GDP.
2. Fred left $35mm to Donald in inheritance. He had 4 children. He did not leave his whole inheritance to Trump.
3. The S&P500 makes about 3% after inflation year on year. That doesn't then just compound, it gets taxed. 40%. So it will make 1.018% every year. 1.018^4 = 1.40x as much. So he would be worth $49mm in today's money. So this is absolute breeze.
4. Finger painting would assume he has been doing nothing. Instead he bought jets, casinos, built an empire, lived like a king. He probably spends 8 digit figures a year just living a life of luxury. In 2 years he would've lost all his money if he wasn't making more money.

>>134380000
checked.

lmao @ leftists critizing the doland for being a 'bussiness failure' meanwhile they live paycheck to paycheck because you of their degenerate consumerist lifstyle

>if blumpf mined all the bitcoin in 2009 he'd be a zillionaire now haha checkmate bigots

>>134376267
Yeah he would have lived broke for 30 years to get what he has now and has lived the life he wanted to live as a billionaire...

These people dont even understand basic math

>>134384111

Lmao see my comment here >>134383781

I've always loved Australia.

>>134376267
Yeah, and if i had put my money in apple stock back in the 80s, i would be a billionaire

>>134376410
>>134378743
>>134380112

>golf courses, casinos, luxury apartments, perfumes

You literally could create more jobs just by giving those billions to some random person.

>>134376267

>trump could have been a lazy fuck and do nothing but instead invested his money in jobs and manufacturing with all the risks, blood, sweat and tears

E B I N

>>134378904
I think you missed the point there chief.

>>134383809

>taxed 40%

WTF are you talking about nigel? Capital gains is nowhere near that.

>>134384531

How do you figure retard? Your average person has no idea how to handle their money. People walking around with phones that cost more than they make in 2 weeks and wonder why they are fucking broke. You are dumb as fuck, consumerism is a disease.

how accurate this shit is?

>>134376267
2500% net profit margin
"What a fucking idiot. If he could see the future he'd be waaaaay more rich"

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>putting all your money in a mutual fund is a good idea
gas the normies

>>134376267
>provide thousands of jobs
>for probably tens of thousands of workers
>over the course of decades
>likely to have paid more in taxes than any other candidate in the primaries or general election

>>134384900
Sorry, 20%. (I also wrote ^4 instead of ^19 (number of years since Fred died) for some reason but still did the calculation correctly) So it will make 2.4% every year. 1.024^19*35mm = $55mm

Still rather a lot less than $8 billion. HMMM.

>>134384919
Because they spend more you retard. Plus, golf courses, casinos, luxury apartments, and perfumes don't really bring that much to the economy in terms of jobs.

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>>134376267
Funny, how progressives deprived the entire lower and middle class the stock market growth as well.

>>134384919
Not the best analogy. 2 or 3 weeks pay for a device as useful as a smartphone is pretty well worth it.

>>134385636

Yeah they spend more, so rather than using the initial money from his father ,if Trump just would have went and bought a bunch of dumb shit like your typical American degenerate he'd be sucking dick for coke somewhere or in rehab. He wouldn't be the ruler of the free world.

Also are you kidding me dumbass? Do you know how many employees a single hotel as large as Trump's needs? Or a casino, or an entire building? People doing what Trump chose to do is what makes America and the free market better than any other country or system in the world. If you stupid commie faggots want to kill any reason to be better than the person next to you, go do it in some third world shit hole, not here in my country where people have taken risks and put everything on the line to live the dream, and helped millions of others provide for themselves and their families while taking that risk.

>>134385790

Not if you're a broke faggot who is already in debt.

>>134384531
>t. democrat
i dont even like trump, but youre retarded.

>>134384531
your mind on socialism

not even fucking once.

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>>134384531
>a random person would directly employ over 22,000 people
You're lucky school's out for summer, kid. The rest of us aren't though, because we have to read your fucking drivel, as you drool all over your keyboard.

>>134386110
>Trump just would have went and bought a bunch of dumb shit like your typical American degenerate

Buying houses, cars, electronics, contributes far more jobs to the economy than staffing golf courses, luxury apartments, or casinos. Plus, at the same time, they contribute to jobs that produce actual goods and doesn't support degenerate habits like gambling.

I'd say that's far better for the economy than what Trumps doing. Plus, isn't Trump like the least charitable billionaire? the average person would donate far more to charity if they had that kind of money.

So yeah, my point still stands. More jobs would be created if someone else had the money.

>>134383399
S&P500 was created in the 50's, numb nuts

>>134387026

(((Weisselberg)))

Oy fucking Vey

>>134387159

You complete fucking idiot, are you stoned or just retarded? How does dumping less than 100 million into the economy on bullshit do more than staffing hundreds of thousands of people worldwide? Trump has paid more than that in various taxes, way more.

>>134387462
> How does dumping less than 100 million into the economy on bullshit do more than staffing hundreds of thousands of people worldwide?

Because those dollars are spent building houses, cars, electronics, medical care, which contribute far more to the economy than luxury apartments and casinos.

Plus, they don't support degenerate habits like gambling.

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Trump started with 10 million

To end up with 8000 million, he would need a 79000% return on his investment.

I think the S&P usually grows at about 3% per year.

>>134387026
>only 22,000

Yes you could literally create more jobs by just giving it to some random person

luxury garbage doesn't contribute very much in terms of jobs

>>134389658
S&P 3%/year? Don't let this anon near any $$$

>>134376267
>I don´t have the faintest fucking idea of economics and business, so a picture with a shady quote is the truth

>>134390338
How did you come up with 22,000 = not alot?

>>134376267
>Hahaha he only made $2.9 billion when he could've made $8 billion hahaha what an IDIOT!! hbahaha he should be like me and invest his money into getting a gender studies degree@!

>>134390773
For a revenue of 9.5 billion, 22,000 low wage jobs isn't a lot.

>>134380449
We know what you are, anon.

>>134378710
Was waiting for someone to point this out.

>>134376267
>(((Bloomberg)))

>>134376267
Yeah but he got to be a star on TV and then retards actually made him President of the most powerful country on earth. It was arguably Mr Chance magnitudes of luck, but as it turned out, it turned out pretty well for him. For America, not so much, but why should he care?

>>134391235
Google has a revenue of 90 billion with 70,000 employees. Maybe you should go tell them how to do their job?

>>134380000
Depending on what kind of fund he bought into, he'd have made a fair amount of liquidity from dividends, but yes.

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>>134376267
*has a second scoop of ice cream*

>>134391595
Your endless ass-hurt is the delight of my every waking moment.

>>134391646
How well paid are google employees compared to those in Trump tower?

I'd be criticizing Google too, but they actually create products and services that are worth it, don't pay their employees like shit, and don't rely on gambling to make their money.

>>134392100
When you're not yourself ass-hurt over jews, niggers degeneracy and transvestites in your bathrooms. It all evens out.

>>134392168
>Man with $2.9b has 22K people working under him
>WOOOOOOOW WHAT A CHEAP PIECE OF SHIT
>google is worth nearly 50 times that and barely has 3.5 times the amount of employees
>It's literally okay when they do it
Fuck off retard

>>134392168
You are talking out of your ass and it's not a good look

Whoever wrote that is a retard, and has no sense of investment

>Suggesting it would be smart to put ones entire wealth into a single asset

>Suggesting that growing a real estate empire isn't impressive

>Muh 1 million dollar dad loan
Piss off, a million dollars is chump change in big money. Poor people think of money so pathetically, they see it as some need, and why that's they stay poor.

It's sad how uneducated the general public is about basic economics. Communists are always the losers of capitalism

>>134388472
Yeah, so now thousands of people can buy all those things instead of just one person. Do you expect Trump to buy 1000 iPads, or 1000 cars? You are clearly to young and or retarded to be commenting on this topic.

>but they actually create products and services that are worth it, don't pay their employees like shit, and don't rely on gambling to make their money.

You'd have to be dense as fuck to miss all these points.

>>134393369
If Trump had put the money he inherited from his dad into bitcoins in 2005 he would own all of the world by now. Think of what he could do to niggers with that kind of cash.

>>134392777

see >>134393732

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President Trump has said one of his main motivations in business was to create jobs. That is why he LOVES construction and hotels and resorts. Many jobs to build them and run them. I heard that there are about 30,000 employees in more than 500 companies right now. Did I get that number right? he says he is the Jobs President because creating jobs is what he does best. Agree?

>>134393732
Address this point then>>134393384

>>134394156

You didn't really address any of the points.

For yours though, Trump doesn't have to buy 1000 ipads. There are a lot of things he could do to create more jobs than building casinos and luxury apartments.

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>>134376267
>S&P 500 has realized a minimum of 2,900% gain since 1999

The difference between the S&P bullshit and Trump's wealth is that Trump paid back the loan, if he had invested it into the S&P he wouldn't have been able to pay back the loan until much later, and then once he did, his profits from the S&P would drop.

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>>134376267
>muh 8 billion
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/

It's not true. Where it comes from is the idea that if he sold everything in 1982, when his net worth was estimated at $200 million, and invested it all in this S&P 500 index fund, and left it all there, it would have accumulated to $8 billion.

Problem 1: He didn't inherit $200 million from his father in 1982. Fred Trump lived until 1999. Trump went to work in the mid-60s, while he was still in college, so he was well over a decade into his career in 1982. He had played a large role in building that $200 million fortune already.

Problem 2: Putting all your money in index funds was not a conventional move in 1982. Pic related. Index funds had been poor performers for decades before that. If he did this, he wouldn't have been seen as an ordinary passive investor, but as a prescient genius or a very lucky slob, especially if he toughed it out through the roller-coaster ride of the first decade of the 2000s to the recovery of the mid-2010s.

Problem 3: People spend money. Trump has lived an extravagant lifestyle, as most people will, when they have the opportunity. There's no accounting for this spending in the passive investment scenario. We see frequent stories of rock stars, movie stars, sports stars, and lottery winners spending everything and going bankrupt, because yes, it's really not hard to spend that much, especially if you just see money as something to spend, not a tool for your work.

Realistically, if Trump had simply taken what he could get from his father and been a conventional investor, he would almost certainly never have become a billionaire.

>>134395873
Nice try
https://archive.is/mzpj7

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>>134395190
just fucking stop dude.

>1 post by this id
>117 replies

/pol/ was a mistake

>>134395947
>posts meme picture
>j-just fucking stop dude

Not an argument.

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>>134395190
>There are a lot of things he could do to create more jobs than building casinos and luxury apartments.

like become president and force companies to bring jobs back to country to boost said economy? kinda makes you think

>>134396288
>22k employees is nothing
>google is good boy
>pls address my points

Don't like arguing with retards, sorry.

>>134385706
this is the first thing ive seen that demonstrates why privatizing social security would be retarded for poor people

>>134376267
He also wouldn't have an empire with his name everywhere.

>>134395873
>http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/dec/09/occupy-democrats/occupy-democrats-say-simple-investment-trumps-fath/

(((politifact))) nice try shill fake fucking news

Why is Deborah so stupid? Why didn't she do this?

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>be me
>25
>decent shape
>white master race
>takes little sisters to beach (9 and 10)
>wears pro trump shirt
>forgets that I still live in commiefornia
>going back to dixie soon
>still in niggerland
>walks down the beach with little sisters
>they want me to help them make a sand castle
>don't know them well, time to be a good older brother
>passes bg nigger family
>coalburning white cuck girlfriend notices my shirt
>I ignore em
>fat nigger boyfriend sees my shirt
>team nigger attacks
>"fuck donald trump nigga "
>"racist azz mothafucka"
>"get yo azz outa here"
>"nigga ignoring us"
>I walk away
>best to not say anything obscene in front of my little sisters
>walks far-far away from nigger family
>builds sand castle
>has great day with little sisters
>takes them back to parents
>better relationship with them
>good
>but
>THE FUCKING NIG-NOGS
>moral of the story is
>niggers ruin family bonding

Yeah man lets all just horde all our fucking money up and invest in businesses that are valued on the market by how much people want to spend.....money....on.....them.

>>134398083
That was a lot of lines to basically say that one black guy was an asshole for ten seconds during an otherwise fine day. We won't miss you when you go back.

>>134398083
i dont understand your gay ass story i wish they would have beat your ass

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>be me
>25
>decent shape
>white master race
>takes little sisters to beach (9 and 10)
>wears pro trump shirt
>forgets that I still live in commiefornia
>going back to dixie soon
>still in niggerland
>walks down the beach with little sisters
>they want me to help them make a sand castle
>don't know them well, time to be a good older brother
>passes bg nigger family
>coalburning white cuck girlfriend notices my shirt
>I ignore em
>fat nigger boyfriend sees my shirt
>team nigger attacks
>"fuck donald trump nigga "
>"racist azz mothafucka"
>"get yo azz outa here"
>"nigga ignoring us"
>I walk away
>best to not say anything obscene in front of my little sisters
>walks far-far away from nigger family
>builds sand castle
>has great day with little sisters
>takes them back to parents
>better relationship with them
>good
>but
>THE FUCKING NIG-NOGS
>moral of the story is
>niggers ruin family bonding
>fuck niggers

>>134398083
What's sad is that his knowledge of Donald Trump is some late night nigger twitter "ayyyyoooo he dont like niggaz" when every nigger under the sun would have aye mayonnaise to be Donald Trump in the 90s and early 2000s.

>>134396423
>posts list with no sources, so we can't tell if the things listed are fabrications or half truth.

I could do the same thing.

>Lowest approval ratings of any president ever during this point in time of the presidency
>Couldn't repeal obamacare even with a majority
>cutting taxes for the wealthy, even though this plan has failed horribly in Kansas.
>GDP growth hasn't changed and has actually dropped since his presidency.
>Job growth rate hasn't changed.

>>134387159
I've read some serious faggot shit on this board but this by far takes the cake. Change that flag you don't deserve it. You need too keep chasing your Bernie Jew Faggot Sanders dreams back up your high school lit teachers twat and fuck off permanently.

>>134398083
Your greentext is all fucked up