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PAGANISM GENERAL

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>>134372121
Christianity is Judaized paganism. YHWH, the Father, is literally a Jewish god. Christ, the Son, is literally a Jewish rhabbi. Charlemagne murdered thousands upon thousands of fellow Europeans for refusing to give up their heritage. They were genocided. How is this something to be proud of? No more brothers war. Tribalism done long enough becomes basically a Monarchy or Fascist/NatSoc state, I don't see how this is a bad thing. Odin, or Woden, is an integral part of our psyche. He is the wod that moves our spirit when creating something of beauty, the inspiration behind our works of art, the fury of our warriors. He is something to be praised.

You have nothing but a snarky and infantile meme.
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>>134373180
Again, a strawman and infantile meme instead of apologetics. I'm sure you'll get extra tendies at the next JIDF meeting, though.
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>>134372687
>Charlemagne murdered thousands upon thousands of fellow Europeans for refusing to give up their heritage.
Nah, because they didn't join his empire. If they barbarians wanted to stay out of it, they should have fought harder, or their "Gods" should have favoured them instead of Charlemagne.
But then they would have been #rekt by the Moors, with no Tours to stop them.
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HURRR OLD GODS WILL RISE AGAIN HURRR
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MUH GODS
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PAGAN STRONG
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>>134371617
Catholic Europe cleansed the world of pagan savages. Get over it.
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Braise jebus, just what Europe needed, christians not europeans.
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>>134372121
>>134373180
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>>134374257
>pagans all follow the norse gods
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>trusting a self-proclaimed terrorist who calls himself Count Grishnack
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>>134374396
It's a pretty rich strawman meme coming from literal jew worshippers.
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>>134374455
Again, a strawman.
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HAIL WODEN
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HAIL YOUR LORD APOPHIS!
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>>134372687
Catholicism was built after God Jesus Christ's death who attacked the Jews during his physical body lifetime. He's like the Hitler of His time. Catholicism brought Spain to its height of power.

I don't get why westerners hate the religion who brought prestige to them.
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>>134374463
Pretty sure it's coming from Christians, though.
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>>134374543
Written by a Jew, literally subversive, try harder. Posting it over and over again doesn't make it right.
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>>134374596
>>134374642
That is some amazing mental gymnastics convincing yourselves that Christianity isn't Judaism for goyim.
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>>134374511
varg is literally the first link in the OP, making it perfectly fine to criticize his ethos
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>>134374770
Not that amazing, given that Christianity shits on Judaism and condemns Jews as heretics or apostates.
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>>134374811
varg is an odalist who thinks the gods are superhero like role models to teach his children with, i dont think any pagans believe odin is riding this 8 legged horse around the sky trying to start wars
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>>134374882
See:
>>134374928

The Old Testament is literally Jewish. All the bible tales are Jewish. All the prophets are Jewish. The mythology is Jewish. The Father comes from the Jewish religion worshipping Yahweh, a Jewish god. The Temple referenced is Jewish. The tribes of Israel is Jewish. Jesus was the King of the Jews. The apostles were Jews that followed Jesus.

I really seem to be missing where it suddenly became not Jewish.
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>>134374543
can't lie, that's pretty gay.

can someone answer why paganism has so much degeneracy throughout it's history?
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>>134374991
yes, he's also an edgy retard who used to call himself count grishnack, that picture I posted was an old one of him
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>>134374928
Bible isn't jewish you faggot.
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>paganism is true european
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>>134375211
If you looked up the source for that claim it came from a Jew.

Secondly, if you read Tacitus you'd find that Germanics were known to throw homosexuals into bogs.
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>>134375211
They worship false gods. That's what all degenerates throgs history did.
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>>134375236
so?
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>>134375244
Have you ever read the bible my dude? You'll find a lot more Isaiah's and David's and Ezekiels than you will Torvalds.
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>>134375244
???
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>>134375138
>The Old Testament is literally Jewish.
No shit. NT is what matters. OT is just padding and context.
>The Father comes from
Not so much. God is not tribal, nor has He a religion. A local "God" is a barbarian concept not in line with the definition, or the logic of the universe.
> Jesus was the King of the Jews.
Nope. Rex Judaeorum. King of Judea, not the Jews.
> The apostles were Jews that followed Jesus.
Nope. They were Christian. Obviously.

>>134375421
Which is a good thing. Sad dearth of Fionn's and Cathal's, though.
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>>134375421
God has no nationality you dumb shit. Isaiah's and David's were making history while Torvalds were sucking dick for magic powers.
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>>134375449
No better than larpagans
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>>134375516
Hey nigger, how about we have our own European religiosity that isn't dependant on jews? Woah that's crazy.
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>>134375516
You seem to be misunderstanding the fact that Jewishness is both religion and ethnicity. For a board that preaches ethnicity so much Christians seem to suddenly forget how it works when it comes to King Jew.

Judea was the name of the region inhabited by Hebrews/Israelites: aka Jews.

The New Testament relies completely on Jewish mythology.. how that suddenly makes it not Jewish makes no sense at all. It's a cult of personality built around the Jewish messiah.

All of that context you call the Old Testament references God as the YHWH of the Jews. Once again, I'm not sure what reality you live in, but it isn't this one: it's JEWISH.
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>>134375579
God has no nationality, he just decided to be the national god of the jews for a few thousand years and then claim them to be his chosen, and then finally after thousands of years and countless generations of goyim, he decided to reveal himself to the rest of the world. Wew fuckin' lad.
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>>134375516
>OT is just padding and context.
And we found a kike shill. It's Word of God not "padding" you sack of shit. Or i guess fags are tottaly based now! Shut up and stop shitting out heresies. ANd no Jesus wasn't king of judea. It's just a name of roman province, He was Messiah and King of the Jews promissed by the prophets.
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>>134375664
When will you realize the Christianity you worship is not the Christianity of the world? You are all larpers of some grand traditional Catholicism that will not return.
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>>134371617
Luciferian
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>>134375678
Not him, what do you mean dependant on jews?
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>>134375868
There is no catholics i know that support gay marriage or anything of the sort, you can only see those things in the setup protests/support groups created by you know who. Its beyond obvious as every time someone check out who is behind funding its always the same exact names. Its pure propaganda and blasphemy.
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>>134375806
Jews were only nation at the time worthy of Him showing Himself to. Rest of the world was drowning in sodomy and other degeneracy. if you read the Bible you would know that. And just like now only God's people (Christians) aren't bunch of degenerates.
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>>134375925
Well how about we have a spirituality and religion that is native to Indo-Europeans, and doesn't take anything from the middle east? We have our own Gods, our own heroes, our own holidays.
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>>134375868
Catholics are as bad as prots who are as bad as pagans. There is one true church that has endured the ages and will continue to do so.

BEGOM ORDODOX
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>>134375678
Aight. We'll stick with Christianity, then. Stop buying (((neo-pagan))) nonsense.

>>134375740
>You seem to be misunderstanding the fact that Jewishness is both religion and ethnicity.
Not at all. You seem to misunderstanding where it might matter or apply.
>Judea was the name of the region inhabited by Hebrews/Israelites
Yea, Palestine. The Greek province, which at the time was owned by Romans.
>The New Testament relies completely on Jewish mythology
I see you haven't read it. Doesn't really rely on that at all, but is there for local context.
>It's a cult of personality built around the Jewish messiah.
Judas Maccabeus? Nah, it's more about the Trinity.
>All of that context you call the Old Testament references God as the YHWH of the Jews.
Yea, see that's as absurd as saying that Odin is a God OF something. God is God. No ethnicity, no religion. The living force of the universe binding it together. Not some dude who had to get attacked by birds to know shit.

>>134375818
>It's Word of God not "padding"
NT is. OT isn't.
But nice try, kike shill.
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>>134376160
There is only ONE GOD you kike. Those "native" gods are just myths at best, demons at worst.
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Catholicism is just Judaized paganism. The Eucharist is just a blot, what we call a religious offering to the gods, done in much the same way it was done by pagans. Easter is the celebration of Eostre, a goddess of fertility and a spring festival. Christmas is a pagan winter solstice festival called Yule, which is done for 12 days (12 days of Christmas). Christ, if he was born, would've most likely been in the autumn. Communion of the Saints is just ancestor veneration Judaized. The blessing of water is very similar to the blessing of mead or blood at blot used to bless the folk. The ember days are days that celebrate the turning of the seasons, also known as the equinoxes and solstices, something pagans worshipped.

Why be a Judaized European?
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>>134376154
>jews are superior to you filthy goyim
>convert to my religion though
Are you fucking retarded m8?
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>>134375868
>You are all larpers of some grand traditional Catholicism that will not return.
It never disappeared. It's been weakened in the degenerate world we live in, but will never vanish. Society secularized, and people became atheists and degenerates. The most Christian populaces reject faggotry and degeneracy. It doesn't take a genius to figure this out.
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>>134376262
There is Wotan and Donnar. The gods of our blood. Brush off the jewish scale over you eyes and become an Aryan man!
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>>134376194
http://www.orthodoxandgay.com/
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>>134376213
>a kike shill calls me a kike shill
Nice try faggot. You are belliteling most of the Bible, faggot. Grab one if you have it at home (i doubt it). Look how much NT takes and how much OT. It's just padding? Is most of the Bible just fucking padding? Shut your kike maw and fuck off.
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>>134376160
Well that is not being dependant on jews, its quite the opposite, i just watched marching to zion and as the interviewed jews state, they hate christians for being by default anti semitic and only recently has that changed with the propaganda pushed that christians are jews, they talk about it in detail. Being dependant on jews was probably just poor wording on your part. I like learning about paganism in all of europe i think its a good asset, but generally i cant stray away from the truth.
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>>134376491
Lol, heretic.

>>134376395
>The gods of our blood
I was going to say, "Your blood, Scandinigger", but that gives them too much credence. They're nothing. Just concepts people didn't understand, so they declared trees and rocks more special than they are.
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>>134376441
So a website complaining about the non-acceptance of homosexuality within orthodoxy is an argument against orthodoxy?
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>>134376380
>Society secularized, and people became atheists and degenerates.
Just in the west. African Churches are going strong and are only getting stronger.
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>>134376677
Based black magapedes!

That's exactly what we need. More Africans.
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>>134376582
>i just watched marching to zion and as the interviewed jews state

Okay newfriend, watch the rest of his channel and find the video where he quotes the bible and says that geneaology is anti-christian and that race mixing is okay. Not everyone who hates the jews is our friend bud.
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>>134376736
I love it. In one side of their mouths they praise European culture and heritage. Christianity will defend the West! Christianity is how we save our society!

Then they turn right around and praise Africans. They would surely choose an African Christian over a blonde haired blue eyed Pagan.

Never forget this. The Christian is the enemy of European civilization.
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>>134376620
>They're nothing.
They're our ancestors, the gods of our blood. As long as a single Germanic man lives on this earth, the gods are alive and with us.
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>>134376961
>They're our ancestors, the gods of our blood
We wuz Gods n shizz?
Germans are reverting to nigger tier morons, it seems.
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>>134376620
>Lol, heretic.
You are the heretic you faggot enabling piece of degenerate garbage. You reject Old Testament just becouse you don't feel confortable with God Himself showing yout that you are a piece of shit. So you just trow it away so you can feel good about yoursef. It's not working that way. God's Word is here to stay and your kike shilling won't change that. What are you? A sodomite? An adulter? A witch? Just becouse your sins are laid out in the Old Testament you throw it away to clense of your filth. Stop lying! You might lie to the world and to yourself byt God sees thourh your vile lies. He sees and He judges.
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>>134376862
>Then they turn right around and praise Africans. They would surely choose an African Christian over a blonde haired blue eyed Pagan.
MUH
SKIN
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>>134377060
>Europeans finding their native spirituality and identity
Does this frighten you kike? Are you afraid?
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>>134377241
This kike isn't afraid since hiskind is behind it. I'm not afraid becouse i know God is with me and He is not scared of false gods.
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>>134376961
Wait, didn't see the flag. I'll amend my statement to, "Partial Germans are reverting to nigger tier morons."

>>134377085
>faggot enabling
Wut.
>You reject Old Testament just becouse you don't feel confortable with God Himself
No? Not much i actually disagree with in the OT, but only a tard would think it matters compared to the NT. Ya know, the Words of Christ? Or is that not important to you, phony?

>>134377241
>Europeans finding their native spirituality and identity
But that's not the case? You're talking some Marvel styled (((neo))) nonsense.
>Are you afraid?
Of tearing down the walls of Christendom, leaving white nations open to subhumans? Yea, pretty much.
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>>134376677
You are a larping kike.

Try harder.
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>>134377400
>flag hider making fun of me
LMAO
Alright I'm done with you kike. Filtered.
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>>134377190
Why so persistent, Varg?

>>134377521
Aww, sick of looking like a fool?
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>>134376777
Im actually catholic and really dont agree with protestantism. That still doesnt make him my enemy. I like his content and im not new to him, i have watched his holocaust video before and thats it, mainly because i have no intrest in protestant ways. Catholics through history have been against racemixing, as many have said if god wanted us to be mixed he would all put us in one place and that is basic child tier argument, there is much better ones that go in deeper. For example i dont know if you have intrest in seeing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZXSo1rDNX8 it is everything we discuss on daily basis on /pol/, so not only regarding christianity and its quite confusing how much something can align with the views of people here. I am so glad i found that as it became my core argument for anything political or spiritual.

Bonus: You can see that video of pope francis and one world religion, mostly dislikes on the video and comments calling him anti-pope, i dont think you can really put him along general catholics/christians. We live in dark times.
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>>134375211
Basically the norse word for gay "ragr", was considered the worst possible insult.

But if someone called you "ragr" you were allowed to kill them where they stand.

In other words they could get away with this shit because nobody would dare challenge them.
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>>134377400
The slave morality of Christian dogma is what is destroying Europe.
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>>134377400
>Ya know, the Words of Christ?
As opposed to words given to prophets by the Father? Are you drunk or something? You know how about we just throw it to the garbage! Who needs that! And let's throw everything beside gospels out! Horay! Let's be red letter larpers!
Shut up and stop blaspheming against God you fucking moron kike.
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Come home to the gods of your ancestors, white man.
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Christianity is basically just judaism
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>>134377703
Pretty sure liberalism is doing that, more than anything traditional.
And lol@"slave morality"

>>134377733
>As opposed to words given to prophets by the Father?
2nd or 3rd hand > 1st hand?
You clearly haven't read the Bible, LARPer, otherwise you'd know what it says about the OT.

>>134377759
My ancestors have been Christian for about 1700 years. Why would i insult them?
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>>134375211
>christians quote from a book written by a jew
lmao like fucking pottery
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>>134377759
Guy on the right is black?
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>>134376777
>geneaology is anti-christian and that race mixing is okay
Pagans are fucking sad faggots. Your skin is literaly all that you retards have. Skins aren't eternal you idiot. You gonna die and your precious skin is going to rot away. Don't care about shit that will be eaten by worms so fucking much.
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>>134378059
Nah, he's just a tanned Englishman.
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>>134377958
U stupid cunt keep worshipping a Semitic god
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>>134374596
>jesus was like the hitler of his time
What the fuck are you smoking, flip? I thought drugs were a death sentence on your islands.
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>>134378024
Refute this from an Icelandic guy then

You worship a mulatto.
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>>134378189
No, kike.
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>>134377958
>2nd or 3rd hand > 1st hand?
If you actualy were Catholic you would know about a little thing called Biblical Inspiration.
But i guess Luke's gospel is trash since he was just Paul's follower and didn't saw Jesus himself.
Fuck off larper.
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>>134377958
Liberalism was born out of slave morality.
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Most Europeans throughout the ages have been killed over Christian dogma than anything the Muslims ever did. Really makes you think. Let's save Europeans from genocide by worshiping the religion that genocided and continues to genocide them!

Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

They do not care one shit about Europeans only that their cancer of a religion spreads. They wouldn't give two shits if every European died so long as their based African Christians would continue on their crusade.

Paganism is about roots, kinship, family. Loving YOUR OWN PEOPLE. It is the healthy state of the European man without the cancer of Judea.

Christianity may have been shaped by Europe but it is not what Europe needs. Europe needs to awaken the spirit of Wotan as it was in Germany pre-WW2. That wondrous, joyous, maniacal fury of that magnificent god whom gave us his spirit, the wod, to animate us his people.

Europeans are pagan by blood, spirit, and soil. Christianity is of the desert and leaves us spiritually empty, depriving our psyches of its much needed heritage that was forged in the fires of our kin.

Listen for their voices, hear their call and return to the folk ways of Europe.
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>>134378216
Jesus literally revolted against the Jews, Hitler did as well. It shouldn't be this hard to make the connection amigo.
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>>134378269
Oh I'm a Jew for calling u out u cunt
I'm probably talking to a abo rn
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>>134376961
>autism
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>>134378469
A fucking fidget spinner talks about autism.
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>>134378427
Jesus literally threw a temper tantrum because the pharisees didn't want to treat him like a special snowflake. He threw a large enough fit that caused the Romans to get involved and then he was martyred because the Jews were sick of his shit.

You worship a jewish autist.
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>>134378266
>Odin
>the most northern god you can get in Europe
>mulatto
>Christians make fun on pagans for this, but don't see a problem with worshipping a literal jew from israel
You just can't make this shit up lmao. You're like a caricature. You're a fucking meme irl
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>>134378410
>This entire post
It seems like you guys are mostly anti-Christian or anti-non-pagan then you are actually pagan. It's kind of pathetic.
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>>134378575
That's funny Jew worshiper
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>>134378392
Pretty sure it was built out of too many people having easy lives.

>>134378379
>If you actualy were Catholic you would know about a little thing called Biblical Inspiration.
I do. It doesn't refute what i've said. You can give up the act now.

>>134378431
Abos can't use the internet. They think it steals souls.
And yea, you're a kike for trying to claim Christ as one.

>>134378584
>Jesus literally threw a temper tantrum because the pharisees didn't want to treat him like a special snowflake.
Nope.
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>>134378655
I actually would fight side by side with a Christian if it came down to it. They'd rather see me dead in the name of their God.

We can't even have a Pagan General without them shitting up our thread, compared to their general that I've no interest in viewing let alone shitting up.

Almost half of this thread is Christians or Atheists literally shitting it up. And when we respond we're just "anti-Christian". That's some more great mental gymnastics.
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>>134374543
Pure speculation with an agenda
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>Thor challenges jewsus to a duel
>Jewsus pussies out

How can abrahamic religions even compete?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steinunn_Refsd%C3%B3ttir
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Is that templar larping dominican here in this thread?
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>>134378655
Seems like you aren't even pagan. So why the fuck Are you in the thread? I actually find these very interesting and have dreams about Norse gods on a regular basis. Not everyone's ancestors are Jew slaves passing down their affliction, some of us have vision left (maybe even some of you but it's doubtful to escapes with that attitude)
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>>134378817
He wuz a kike
Oh are u one of those WE wuz the real Jews n shit??????
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>>134378584
Make up your mind, you are literally defending those that you are calling your enemy. Also moment christianity is completely dead in europe is the same moment they have won since that is the whole mission. They have stated that multiple times, you would need to close your eyes to those statements to be this ignorant.
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>>134378881
>They'd rather see me dead in the name of their God.
No, not so much. And there's no "their" needed before God.

>>134378960
No, but you must have a toddler view of theology to think God can have ethnicity. Is that why you're a (((pagan)))?
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>>134378984
No, I'm pointing out the fact that you are worshiping a jewish autist, not a god.

We have gods, plenty actually, and you can experience them by going outside.
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>>134378817
>It doesn't refute what i've said.
You are calling Old Testament Lies becouese you don;t like what it says. How did it hurt your fefes? Don;t Like the part about you not being allowed to be fucked up the ass like a homo faggot youare? Poor child!
But it's not a reason to call God a liar you piece of shit. Stop spreading lies and fuck off you retarded piece of human waste.
God had written both Old and New Testaments working through prophets and apostles. But of course let's denny it and pretend we aren't fucking heretics. Fuck you.
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>>134378817
You are an idiot.
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>>134378605
>You just can't make this shit up lmao. You're like a caricature. You're a fucking meme irl
I'm not making this up. Notice how I clearly showed you that Memnon was an Ethiopian, also notice how I clearly cited my source from a pagan scholar's translation of The Prose Edda.

>>134378584
Nope, you worship a cum drinker and mulatto. See how easy it is to personally insult me? Refute it if you can, if you are a Norse pagan and knew it to be false you would be able to but you're struggling.
>Odin
>the most northern god you can get in Europe
>mulatto
Describes Northern Europe in 2k17 pretty well imo, thanks for aiding my argument.
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>>134379221
How's the Dominican republic right now?
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>>134378894
lol pagans made their women write fairytales for them.
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>>134378946
>have dreams
Oh well then, better call The Royal Society in the face of such proof.

>>134379161
>We have gods, plenty actually
Then they aren't God.

>>134379221
>You are calling Old Testament Lies
Nope. Lrn2read, idiot.
And after you've done that, read the NT. Specifically what Christ says about the Old Covenant.

>>134379300
>can't refute
>better post anyway
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>>134377352
And we are not afraid of dead gods. Keep worshiping an image of a dead man, impaled by nails, too passive to live, praised for how much of a total pushover he was. It's no wonder the West is killing itself when they follow such a altruistic suicidal hero.
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>>134379327
>polish bait picture
>doesn't address the point I was making in my reply
hmm..
yep, filtered.
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>>134377400
The entire book is the word of (((god))). But you only like to take the parts that make you feel good don't you?
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>>134379376
There is nothing to refute, you are just another Abrahamic cultist.
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>>134379376
And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail.
And you are questioning Old Testament being Divinly Inspired you faggot. You are calling Bible lies. You are a kike or a heretic in denial.
I'm not going to talk to you anymore. Sit here with heathens, you are worthy of each other.
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How do you expect Europeans of brown/black hair or eyes to get behind european pride when you continually ridicule them of not being 'aryan'.

You guys are doing the same shit the jews do. "Gods chosen". Everybody else is shit. Basically your the jews of white people...the way some of you act. White unity is most important. Not conquer and divide.
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>>134379371
Funny thing, when you let women into the priesthood, priests are less likely to rape little boys.
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>>134377958
Your recent (((christian))) ancestors got you here. Do you want to stay here? Get it together man.
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>>134379677
>priests are less likely to rape little boys.
Catholic priests don't do that.
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>>134379510
>But you only like to take the parts that make you feel good don't you?
Nope. If you had read it, you'd know i was being perfectly logical and consistent.

>>134379513
Hah, GG, try harder next time after you've studied history.

>>134379665
>And you are questioning Old Testament being Divinly Inspired
Nope. You know, someone with conviction wouldn't need to put words in my mouth. Try to be more subtle next time you bash Christianity.
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>>134379161
>god is a jewish autists
cool
>We have gods, plenty actually, and you can experience them by going outside.
That is the problem, material world cannot be god unless you make it out to be. You become the worldly slave that way. There is nothing wrong and on the contrary, you should enjoy the nature of the world but not worship it, since the moment you become a spiritual pagan that believes in ritualistic part of it, you are serving the enemy of one and only god. But i guess thats just a cool story bro, right?
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>>134379767
kek

How do you filter non-nation flags? I've literally never seen a good post from them.
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>>134377958
>would rather pray to jewish god because his grandparents did it, instead of get in touch with the real religions of his race
Really makes you think...
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>>134379790
>bash Christianity
YOU ARE SAING THAT OLD TESTAMENT IS NOT WORD OF GOD YOU FUCKING AUTHISTIC RETARD
AM I BASHING CHRISTIANITY YOUFUCKING MARCIONIST HERETIC?
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>>134379327
>christianity will stop racemixing
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>>134379513
Its religion, cult is something of a much smaller scale. You should not let yourself be influence by Varg so much since he proved he is a 16 year old in his mind. I enjoy his videos and he can be entertaining but he made it clear in his arguments, asspulls and comment section he is not fit to lead anyone.
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>>134378881
>I actually would fight side by side with a Christian if it came down to it.
I would as well with a pagan
>They'd rather see me dead in the name of their God.
That was before, doubt anyone cares since 4/5ths of the population probably doesn't even know what 'paganism' is.
>We can't even have a Pagan General without them shitting up our thread, compared to their general that I've no interest in viewing let alone shitting up.
It's usually just the Templar spamming and people calling you gay, just ignore it, at least they're bumping the thread.
>And when we respond we're just "anti-Christian"
You assumed I was a Christian and called me a kike-worshipper. You didn't even attempt to refute what I posted. If an analysis of the Prose Edda concluded that Thor was a mulatto then why the fuck are you mad at me and not the guy who wrote it?

>>134378946
>Seems like you aren't even pagan. So why the fuck Are you in the thread?
Usually for discussion, things that might cause me to convert, and sometimes for joking around.
>I actually find these very interesting and have dreams about Norse gods on a regular basis.
That's pretty wierd dude. Tell me about your experience in a way that might make me convert.
>Jew slaves
Don't know where this came from
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>>134379716
>Your recent (((christian))) ancestors got you here.
No they didn't. It was other people who abandoned Christianity who got us here. My Christian ancestors made the UK (and by extension, Europe) great.
My pre-Christian ancestors didn't do much at all. Including writing down their religious beliefs.
It took our Christian ancestors to do that.

>>134379904
>Would rather pray to a tree because his parents and grandparents didn't do that
Contrarians are quite sad. And lol@thinking your new purchased beliefs are the real religions of "your" people.

>>134380006
>YOU ARE SAING THAT OLD TESTAMENT IS NOT WORD OF GOD
I didn't, though.
You just want me to say that because you're trying to attack Christendom.
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>>134379670
>How do you expect Europeans of brown/black hair or eyes to get behind european pride
No one is arguing that ITT. This is about native European religions. Obviously if you're a black haired brown eyed med you shouldn't be worshiping Woden.
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>>134379864
You dont need to point out you have fallen for "their" propaganda. It doesnt take much to learn truth about these things, its everywhere, detailed how they setup those stories and everything, along with vatican being infiltrated to death.
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Love all the christcucks posting in this thread insulting paganism who probably also consider themselves "traditionalist" and quote people like Julius Evola and Adolf Hitler, despite their greatest idols despising Christianity.
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>>134379376
Your suicidal monotheism will be the death of us all... following some poor sap that preached "pacifism is the answer". And all you need to do for salvation is to "hate what is bad, love what is good". As if some almighty power is going to take care of anything for you. Such womanly thinking, so weak. Your icon is literally a man that martyred instead of fought. How do you think that is going to shape society? It's turned us into what we are, weak and powerless. This ideology is stifling and emaciating us.
Please... please... stand up and fight for all the ancestors that got you here. Whatever they may have been. Don't preach this weak message to our peoples. It's killing us.
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>>134379464
What's your point? I asked you to refute the fact that Thor is a mulatto and you resulted to personal insults instead. The fact that your God is Northern is irrelevant since the form of paganism Scandinavians practiced in 2500BC was different from the one they practiced 1000 years later and originated outside of Scandinavia.
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>>134378881
>I actually would fight side by side with a Christian if it came down to it.

Be careful what you wish for.
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>>134380182
You are the one attacking very ideas of Christianity is build on you marcionist fuck. You can't say that Old Testament is somehow "just padding and context" or a "2 hand account". You are blaspheming and attaqck me for pointing out your blasphemies.
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>>134380408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz42hBg4jys He really hated it, pls reply with "he was gonna get rid off it after, he was just pandering to his christian population (c) Varg the god leader".
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>>134379790
Says the person who doesn't even understand slave morality, christian dogma or it's effects on europe.

>equates all recent changes in western culture to "people have too much"

Typical Christian response, unable to see outside of you narrow dogma.

>>134380103
Varg is an idiot, give up religious dogma, try philosophy instead.
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>>134380408
>Julius Evola and Adolf Hitler
Both were faggots. You don't need false idols when you have actual Word of God to take from.
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>>134378119
So weak and worthless, no pride. You're the stuff that suicides are made out of.
My decedents shall survive on. My image shall not pass away from this world. I'll fight tooth and nail for my ancestors and the continuation of my people.
It's as deep as the very core of my being. It would be a crime against all I am and all of nature itself to not fight for such a glorious cause.
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>>134380592
>kike shill pushing for hitler was a Christian meme
Is this why Pope's encyclic was banned in germany? Is this why he denied Old Testament (noticing a theme here?) is this why he made pagan himler head of the ss? I mean he said he is Christian, no one ever would lie about something like that!
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>>134380778
Fuck off kike.
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>>134381024
>a paganfag with a literal FAGGOT on his flag
>calls others kikes
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>>134380592
hmmmm, then why did he suppress the catholic church, say that Christianity was incompatible with National Socialism, and tell Goebbels to stay in the church for strategic purposes? There are many more quotes from Hitler showing disdain for Christianity than there are of him praising it. The popular consensus, even among those critical of the stories of the Holocaust and other such nonsense, is that Hitler hated Christianity, which is why he tried to 'correct' it through the 'Positive Christianity' movement. Also, explain to me why a leader who supposedly loved Christianity would associate with so many people who hated it? Joseph Goebbels, Heinrich Himmler, Hermann Goerring, Rudolf Hess, Reinhard Heydrich, etc. Most of the Nazi higher-ups hated or were at least critical of Christianity.
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>>134377890
Pretty much desu. If a brick building is torn down and remade into a different building... it's still a brick building. The basis of christianity has and always will be Judaic. There's just no way to get around it. It's in the past of christianity and paved the way for jesus to do what he did.
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>>134381191
Little too ass mad over being called a kike there, shekelstein.
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>>134381191
Still a kike.
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>>134381191
Stop worshiping jews
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>>134374455
This. You do a disservice to paganism to link forthwith to this old has-been (and not much at that) faggot.
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>>134380976
Actually he was clear about himmler which is not supporting his crap and he was clear about pagans in his book. Im sure you have seen it but still. Also he mentioned christianity on multiple occasions.
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So to actually start some discussion between PAGANS in this thread, I have a question. What do you guys think of Roman/Greek Paganism? Furthermore, what do you think of an American revival of such beliefs? After all, the United States was meant as a revival of Rome, and such beliefs would create a stronger sense of a specifically American identity and even further down the road an American ethnicity. Also, christfags can't use the "le pagans had no accomplishments" argument on Roman paganism.
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>>134381495
And yet Hitler was the embodiment of the wod, of which stems from Woden.

http://www.philosopher.eu/others-writings/essay-on-wotan-w-nietzsche-c-g-jung/
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>>134382002
>What do you guys think of Roman/Greek Paganism?
Seems okay to me.
>Furthermore, what do you think of an American revival of such beliefs?
The wops can do whatever they want.
>After all, the United States was meant as a revival of Rome, and such beliefs would create a stronger sense of a specifically American identity
That makes no sense. Italians are barely anything of the American population compared to Anglo Saxons or Germans.
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>>134382002
Roman paganism is great but I’m not Hellenistic. I’d like to see more of its aesthetics used though for sure.
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>>134381231
Sure, no problem. I have seen all those things said here multiple times, but the sources are always, "trust me". So i would first need to see source and than examine if its real because its very easy with his speech, since we can hear him. So i do not believe those to be true, due to him going to cathedral in austria, having proper burials for his enemies and having catholic priest on his side who was killed for supporting hitler and national socialist germany. Here is a bonus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Nazi_Germany
The truth is, they pushed hard for "hitler's germany is pagan due to him embracing the swastika", for me swastika makes sense and it seem to have made sense for many architects who worked on catholic cathedrals, accepting your pasting is great, there is nothing negative about it. So pushing that they are pagan would sully their image with the world at the time. Here is goebbles short speech about paganism/christianity, good discussion in the comments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_LHwKxcOIM
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>>134382219
Yes, Goebbels speech was criticizing Christianity for breeding such degeneracy. Goebbels was the most critical of Christianity, second only to Himmler.
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>>134380422
>suicidal monotheism
I prefer to call it logic. And it's in no way suicidal.
>following some poor sap that preached "pacifism is the answer".
To some questions. Others require strength of arm.
>As if some almighty power is going to take care of anything for you.
Not at all. Like, specifically not. God helps those who help themselves (yes, i know that's non-Biblical).
>Your icon is literally a man that martyred instead of fought
Because He didn't need to fight. That doesn't apply to the rest of us.
>stand up and fight for all the ancestors that got you here
Agreed. Deus Vult.

>>134380568
>You are the one attacking very ideas of Christianity is build on
Nope.
>You can't say that Old Testament is somehow "just padding and context"
Sure you can. The NT basically says that.

>>134380755
>Says the person who doesn't even understand slave morality, christian dogma or it's effects on europe.
Oh the irony!
>Typical Christian response
Logical? Try critical thinking for a while: Christianity made Europe the beacon of light, hope, power, and knowledge of the world. Abandoning it gave us the smeghole we have now.

>>134382002
>What do you guys think of Roman/Greek Paganism?
Bit too egalitarian, but good for the amount of hard records we have of it.
>Furthermore, what do you think of an American revival of such beliefs?
No offense, but Americans ruin everything they touch. Religion, politics, economy, etc.
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>>134382191
>Roman paganism is great but I’m not Hellenistic.
They are the exact same thing...
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>>134382219
And yet his entire inner circle was chock full off literal Pagans or at the very least occultists who despised Christianity.

And yes, if you're in a 99% christian nation in the 1920's, you're going to use token christian rhetoric to get those retards on your side.
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>>134382457
Doesn't seem to be true when it comes to this speech, he was essentially asking is it pagan to act like proper christians because as someone pointed out in the comments, they were pushing that they are pagan to lose the christian vote. I even linked to the catholic church and nazi germany which goes against what im saying, but im using that to point out that they have no source for anything, they have since the end of the war pushed for "nazis are satanists". Occultism and everything is pushed to this day, there is enormous amount of documentaries about hitler and nazis and satanism, im sure youtube is full of those uploads so i dont need to try hard in that regard.
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>>134382002
Any sort of genuine pagan religious revival would have to be based on actual spirituality and not just a love and admiration of your ancestors.

And most americans have no connection to Romans and Greeks.
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>>134382219
Forgot to mention before, I don't think Hitler was a neopagan either. He was critical of both, and of course had disdain for Himmler's secret rituals and relationship with Julius Evola. In fact, he once said religion entirely was incompatible with National Socialism. In my opinion, he was an agnostic. In that sense, I actually find Himmler, Goebbels, and Evola to be better people than Hitler. They wanted a future for Europe, and hoped for it to embrace a pan-Aryan spirituality, the fact that Himmler accepted so many non-German Europeans into the SS shows that his intentions and plans for Europe would have been more beneficial in the long run.
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>>134382818
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Can we discuss why you guys are forcing a theology that is incompatible with your lifestyle? Also the fact that there is probably thousands of pagan religions, which one am I suppose to trust?
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>>134382002
Founding fathers have direct connection to masons, i dont even need to point anything out, i can just put my hands up as this so open that it doesnt need much proof.
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>>134383062
yes, I agree, however I was meaning as a tool of the state to bring about a revival in the nation. I believe in a pan-Aryan spirituality, and adapting European customs to American values would not conflict with those beliefs in any way.
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Why do you faggots care so much about what religion Hitler was? He's dead and no normie is going to take up the banner of national socialism any time soon. Let sleeping dogs lie.
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>>134383209
>Founding fathers have direct connection to masons
So?
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>>134383209
yes they were masons, and? The founding of the United States was quite literally an occult phenomenon. Unfortunately the Masons have long since been infiltrated by Jews.
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>>134383069
For me, the right idea is the unity of europe against the common enemy as the history of all of european countries are connected deeply. I think "aryan spirituality" is foolish, not just because im catholic but because i think its weak, you are cutting yourself from your friends/neighbour countries based on things that have been irrelevant since the beginning of men. I like hitler's speeches but i need to point out mosleys speeches about europe and its people are also phenomenal
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>>134383400
>>134383413
You both dont seem to know that mason's square and compasses is stylised davids star, i dont know if the guy who knows marching to zion is still here but i guess i dont need to say anything. Along with the whole point of masons is controling the sheep, why are you even here if you dont know these things.
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>>134383703
What Europe needs is to wake up from it's materialistic, jewish spell. Christianity, imo, contributes to that spell.

It's the original subversion that has been rotting the Soul and morality of Europe for 2,000 years.
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>>134383703
I agree with you to some extent but what I meant by Aryan spirituality is exactly what it sounds like, the belief that all descendants of indo-Aryans are linked not only biologically but spiritually. There are certain elements of an Aryan soul that binds us all. This goes hand in hand with pan-European ideology.
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>>134382002
I'm quite fond of an American religion. Washington was a deist who called his god Providence. There's also Columbia who could be seen as a representation of this deity with a connection to manifest destiny.
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>>134384469
The Jews should fear the Anglo.
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>>134383979
>You both dont seem to know that mason's square and compasses is stylised davids star
It really isn't. For a number of reasons. But one of the bigger ones i'll go with is that the double triangle is used, but elsewhere.
>Along with the whole point of masons is controling the sheep
Nah.

>>134383999
Not to be funny, but at this point you may as well be promoting Christianity. Ironically, i prefer Christianity to have the regional flavours, like Celtic Christians, Germanic Christians, Franco Christians, etc.
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>>134383983
Im tired as its 5 am here but i guess i will ask anyway... How? There is nothing you can say as there is no argument, you can say pope is shit, he is doing this and that and you would be right, he is sadly helping them as the church is different from the one before Vatican II, its old news. Thankfully people are not accepting of bullshit. But you said 2000 years so, how? If you think heroism in pagan europe which is basicly just greece and rome, its unique and it was brought back in the crusades and to a degree WWII, you dont need to push for leftis memes btw about crusades being bad, i have seen and read enough to know its propaganda memes. Europe literally took back jerusalem just because they wanted to and seeing biggest victories in crusades is gonna be forever impressive. Some good losses too, but that is normal.
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>>134371617
Question for yall niggas. I'm Swedish/Anglo/Germanic mix so what do I do? I mean it's all the same right?
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>>134384637
All of these were posted in a christian general and were debunked again and guy who was posting got erased from universe sadly. The thread is also dead so you dont need to try so hard for 4 people.
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>>134384715
You can choose which ever side you feel closer to, or you can do it the Aryan way. Yeah, it's all the same just cultural variations.
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>>134384652
>How?
There are provable truths out there, like the existence of a Soul, reincarnation, etc.

If these concepts were embraced then our modern, degenerate morality wouldn't be able to exist. So we just have to work to spread these ideas.
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>>134384715
Odin/Woden/Wotan

It's all the same m8.
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>>134384943
>degenerate morality wouldn't be able to exist
Morality literally cant be degenerate lel

What is the proof for reincarnation? Aside from vargs meme.

I believe people who died and came back that claim they have expirienced purgatory and everything. None of them gained any popularity or money from it aswell.
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>>134385289
Then call it immorality, but that's just playing semantics.

There are many cases of children recalling their pasts lives and possessing intimate knowledge of long dead people to prove it. There are a ton of well documented examples and there's frankly no other explanation.
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>>134384451
And we put the goddess Liberty on a lot of our coinage for a good majority of our history. Liberty was adopted from the French as far as I'm aware, and Columbia started as a representation of the American Continents, and evolved into an American Athena. Hail Columbia!
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>>134385691
That is absolutely true, i and many others believe we inherit parts of our encestors, recent and ancient. I actually told my mother about certan event i believe didnt happen to me, well it would be impossible it did, but i have that clear memory and she really got shocked and claims its her memory the way i described it. She ofc never told it to me or anyone. That would be one of my examples.
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Who invented longswords? I can't find any sources saying they were used by Pagans. Were they a post-Pagan invention?
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My only issue with paganism is how LARPy it comes across. On a theological level how much do we actually know about germanic/norse or whatever paganism? Also, what are pagan values? I don't want to grow a society with backwards values.
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>>134386558
think of the values of Rome, or really any pre-christian European civilization. Hell, even Persian paganism was essentially the same as European Paganism. Look at the values of any indo-Aryan civilization, those are pagan values.
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>>134386971
But their theology comes across as radically different. Are you sure that we can look at one pagan religion and assume all others were like it?
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>>134387153
not all of course, but those connected to indo-Aryans. A good example is the symmetry between Hinduism and Hellenic paganism.
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>>134387153
They all have the same source, which we should try to rediscover and revive.

That's why I can't take Asatru LARPers seriously. Odin and Freyr are 10 degrees removed from whatever our original faith was.
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>>134387512
>>134387401
Makes sense. One last question, where can I find information on "true" paganism that isn't LARPed or cucked?
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>>134386558
It's not that it comes across as LARPy but that it is practically just LARPing. Pagans existed in tribes, and their religion was an explanation for things they experienced and witnessed. It's primitive and doesn't co-operate with western ideals anyways.

Your average neo-pagan is usually a righteous vargfag idiot with no basic education who thinks it's his responsibility to lecture people on how mankind should operate. And most of the people itt are in it for reminiscing on their homelands past and story rather than following a legitimate theology. If their ever comes a time where people should become pagan it's after everything that humans have built has been wiped out, and even then it should be a completely different form of paganism.

I know no one will try to argue this because it's the truth - this neo-pagan crap is forced beyond constipation.
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>>134386558
Dude you just make it up however you want! That's the beauty of it, I'm a level 9 ancient swordsman of Cimmeria in my pagan worship. Hey, do you think you want to join mine? The LARP is very low key!
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>>134387915
Look into Evola, that's how I was introduced to pagan and occult spirituality. Once you've looked into that, there is plenty of insight and commentary on his works and ideas.
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>>134387952
Western ideals literally developed out of them.

> religion was an explanation for things they experienced and witnessed
Yes, if I have a spiritual experience, I will base my spiritual framework on that. What is the problem here?
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>>134387915
Look into Anglo-Saxonism, aka "AESTHETICISM"
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>>134388811
That mustache makes the mask look like Hitler.
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>>134387952
Read Culture or the Teutons.
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>>134388985
Of
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>>134388983
Adolf Hitler was an Anglo Saxon.
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>>134389154
Wasn't he German? Or are all those groups basically the same thing?
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>>134389241
Adolf Hitler was the reincarnated warrior spirit of the Germanic people "Wotan/Woden/Odin". He could've manifested himself amongst the British, Scandinavian, or the continental Germanic peoples.
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A strong earthquake shaked eastern Aegean few hours ago.
See pic to find out how is relevant with muslimchristian abominations and Varg's autism.
My condolences to the families of the dead.
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>>134389384
Explain?
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>>134375259
Wiccans aren't real pagans, Wicca is a new age religion with no historical basis.
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>>134387915
There's no "true" paganism. In ancient Greece and Rome there were even dozens of pagan religions called "Mysteries" or "Mystery religions" with unknown origins. Even the Greeks themselves adopted dozens of Gods that other indo-European peoples lacked, Adonis for exampled was a Canaanite God (around modern day Lebanon and Israel), Minoan Gods like Minos were adopted into the Argive genealogy as well. It was really a big mess of deities and heroes.

If you want something simple and straight forward I would go with Norse.
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>>134389834
So which one is best for our goals of decucking Europe?
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>>134389548
We are the descendants of the gods, and our ancestors believed in reincarnation in the family line.

Carl Jung believed in racial archetypes, or how indo-European peoples believed in similar mythologies, weather they be Greek, Aryan Indian, or Germanic, for instance the tripartite social hierarchy on earth, and the warrior god-fertility-god, warrior tripartite dynamic in the heavens. He believed that our race had the above mentioned characteristic hardwired in our consciousness and Woden/Odin/Wotan being our chief deity was a racial expression of our racial soul and would come to save us when we need him most(kind of like the King Arthur myth). He believed Adolf Hitler was Wotan the god coming in spirit to Adolf Hitler to save our race.
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>>134389834
>Minoan Gods like Minos
wut?
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>>134390148
So if all that is true, will he return?
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>>134390148
Like this painting of Odin years before Hitler was even on the scene.
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>>134390316
Like they say about King Arthur, he will return when his people need him the most. Don't worry mein bruder. Odin will watch out for us.
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>>134389009
>>134388985
Will do

>>134388437
>Western ideals literally developed out of them.
I hardly doubt Western ideals developed out of pagan literature
>Yes, if I have a spiritual experience, I will base my spiritual framework on that. What is the problem here?
I tried not to put it very in your face but I simply meant to say that the religion is made up, which there is nothing wrong with. Problem is you're trying to adopt a religion that's already scarce in scripture and 4000+ years old to direct you and your people in 2017.

Also what do you mean by spiritual experience and spiritual framework. When I think of spiritual experience I think of something very personal...
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>>134390316
Hopefully soon, or we're fucked desu.

>>134390624
>When I think of spiritual experience I think of something very personal...
Yes, hence why this isn't just some made up crap from 4,000 years ago.

If you haven't dabbled in the occult, I recommend it. These religions didn't just pop out of nowhere. Some mystic sees a spirits, and a cult develops.
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>>134390163
They translated a word from Linear A from the Minoan civilization as "Minos the king", no? I know Adonis was Canaanite at least, I'm new to this stuff anyway.

Explain 2 me, I'm stupid.
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>>134391200
>Yes, hence why this isn't just some made up crap from 4,000 years ago.
But I believe it is. If you agree that it's personal than why do you believe you should have other people adapt to the same 'spiritual framework' that arose from your own personal experience? Unless you believe these people had a collective experience? I just can't truthfully believe that 2-3 people each thread are mentioning a spiritual experience from believing in pagan Gods, it's keeping me a bit on the edge because I can't tell if you're hallucinating or lying. If the paganism the indo-Europeans brought with them was different from the natives then which one am I supposed to believe? Is there a 'superior' pagan religion?

Should a person believe that the Gods exist (or ever existed) and if they should what happens to people like Varg who believe that the literature is entirely metaphorical
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>>134392238
>>134391200
The spiritual thing is also making me want to convert but it just sounds like a lie to me so if you can point me to a good book on paganism in general that would be nice.
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>>134372687
>>134372121
>>134373180
>Doesn't know adam and eve were traditional Catholic's
>doesn't relies we're children of adam and eve
>all come from noah after flood.
>Babylon happens
>divides the children of noah
>They migrate all over the world
>Oral teachings of adam and eve from noah, become deluded and disoriented truths of the garden of eden.
>Christ comes and says, the old ways were good, but no longer are they.
>founds traditional Catholicism
>Pagans who's hearts wouldn't change to christ were killed, according to the old ways.
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>>134372687
This
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>>134392420
>Christ comes and says, the old ways were good, but no longer are they.
>Pagans who's hearts wouldn't change to christ were killed, according to the old ways.
>the old ways were good, but no longer are they.
>Pagans who's hearts wouldn't change to christ were killed, according to the old ways.
Looks like someone forgot to clean their room and sort themselves out.
p.s. You're as pathetic as Nation of Islam cult members with your retarded historical revisionism.
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>instead of taking it seriously this thread is just larping and teenage ramblings from top to bottom
top zozzle
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>>134392900
>instead of adding anything of value to the thread, he'll just do the same thing he's bitching about
a honh honh honh
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>>134392338
>The spiritual thing is also making me want to convert
That would be stupid. Don't go on my word and instead seek out an actual personal connection with a spirit/deity yourself.

>>134392900
fuck off back to /omg/ you cunt.
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Jesus Christ came only for the sheep from the house of Israel, and said that Gentiles were like dogs who deserve to lick their food up out of the dirt.
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>>134392420
>Doesn't know adam and eve were traditional Catholic's
The Muslims would say they were traditional Muslims. Both are wrong.
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>>134372687

>Christianity is Judaized paganism


Look, personally I have nothing against pagans. If you like worshiping some tree that some inbred who was lucky enough to be a Gothi claimed was blessed by Odin a thousand years ago, all power to you, but this "Christianity is Jewish" meme needs to fucking stop, and anybody who unironically believes it is either a complete idiot, or a Jewish shill (either way, they do the Jew's job for them).

Christianity is the antithesis of Judaism, and it shows, considering kikes have been trying to uproot Christian tradition ever since its conception. Not to forget, some of the biggest Christians in history, from Goebbels, to Martin Luther, to even the Apostles themselves, have claimed that Jews and Judaism were perverted and evil.
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>>134393198
Goebbels was a positive Christian though tbf.
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>>134393198
When the christians subverted Rome, their cult was primarily a movement of women, jews and slaves. Now, when you go to church, you only see old people. So many old people that it makes you sick.

Your cult is dead. Just accept it.
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Come home, AESTHETIC man.
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>>134393198
see
>>134393108
Jesus Christ was a YHWH worshiper, he preached the ten commandments that were given to Moses by YHWH, he called the Canaanite woman a dog because she wasn't a Jew, he was in the Melchizedek priesthood, just like Abraham was, he was an Israelite supremacist that claimed non-Jews weren't even human.
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>Orphics were the best pagans, debate me
*blocks your path*
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>>134393990
>>134393823
*teleports behind you*
Nothing personal kid.
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>>134393390

>When the christians subverted Rome, their cult was primarily a movement of women, jews and slaves

Christians did not "subvert" Rome, faggot, neither was it a movement of women, Jews, and slaves. It was legalized and popularized by Constantine.

>Your cult is dead. Just accept it.

It's certainly more alive than your pathetic meme version of our ancestral religions. Seriously, drop the fasces, kike, you're not fooling anyone
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>>134394196
but we wuz proto-Christians
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>>134393198
I think both are misunderstood. Paganism has a bad name due to Catholicism spreading lies. And most don't realize followers of Christ should only follow the New Testament.

Both have truths and to me represent the essence of ethnic whites. Jesus with his teachings of kindness, forgiveness, morality etc. And Paganism with a wide variety of knowledge, freedom of thought, ethnic brotherhood, appreciation of the physical world etc.

In the end, we can learn from each other and become something new and improved. Almost all traditions are based around Paganism, and i truly believe it is essential to our spirit as a people. I am not sure if we can coexist without reformation, but i think we need to at least start respecting each other and realize we aren't enemies. If you can't agree with that, you are the problem.
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>>134394298
The spread of Christianity in the Roman empire was primarily that of an urban, industrialized(for the time) deracinated, mass immigration, anomic one. It was a bottom up conversion compared to the Germanic top-down one. People were lacking an identity after all the family and national identitites were breaking down. Ironically these same factors that caused the spread of christianity in the urban areas of the empire, aare causing people to become athiestic if liberal, or pagan if conservative in modern times.
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>>134393785

Oh look, another ridiculous and retarded meme, spawned from the same mouthbreathing retards who probably think the Book of Veles was a legitimate document!

https://santitafarella.wordpress.com/2014/05/07/four-hundred-fifty-antisemitic-verses-in-the-gospels-and-book-of-acts/

Acclaimed Holocaust historian, (((Daniel Goldhagen))), in his most recent book, The Devil That Never Dies: The Rise and Threat of Global Antisemitism (Little, Brown & Co. 2013), claims the following about the New Testament:

The Christian bible contains four hundred fifty antisemitic verses just in the four Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles, … (70)
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>>134394857
Have you ever read the poetic edda?
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>>134394298
If it makes you feel any better, I hear Christianity is thriving in Africa. In the west though, the youth has rejected your jew god.
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>>134371617
How does one get into Valhalla exactly? besides die in battle?
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>>134395113
That's pretty much it, although there are some stories of people having their sword in hand at the time of death to go to valhalla, or writing a symbol of Odin on their body(presumably the valknut) to go to valhalla.
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>>134392420
They wanted to stay in the old ways, so they died according to the old ways..

>>134393140
>would actually believe a Muslim
the difference is, we're right they are wrong..
thats how i reason, also god knows all hearts.. if he sees someone whos heart will never change, why wouldn't he allow them to die.
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>>134392851
Meaning, since they wanted to live in the old ways they died according to the old ways, just like their false gods.
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>>134395462
>Sword
FUCK does a C7A1 count? how about my combat knife? I think the valknut will be easiest but wat if I catch a bullet to the head? FUCK.
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>>134396125
You will go to leaf valhalla were you will have many dogs to perform fellatio with
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>>134396287
Kek sounds fun, but I am 100% european I have records of my family going back to tribes in europe im only second generation here.
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what should i bring with me when i go off the grid up north?
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>>134396388
You know some people think that Valhalla was only a latter addition to the Germanic mythos, around 600AD. I can't remember which saga it was but in the Icelandic sagas there was a warrior who died in battle and went to Hel. Also the god Baldur went to Hel until after Ragnarok when he becomes the lead deity. Hel aint a bad place to be desu and I don't think any of us here are welcomed by Odin in valhalla. The only ones who are worthy of that today are like green berets or something. Also interesting to think about is the lay of Harbard, where Odin and Thor are tossing insults at each other and Odin says that he gets the best warriors and heroes and Thor only gets their servants.
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>>134396797
So what your saying is I gotta get tough and I gotta join the JTFO2? cause thats as mean as leaves get and those fuckers are pretty mean. considering they demolished the longest sniper shot ever.
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>>134396963
Well yeah, Odin and the Valkyries only picked the best of the best warriors to go to valhalla so today you can equate that with special forces or something.

You can see this kind of thing in modern day Scandinavia where there's tons of place names for Thor and a lot of people are named after Thor, but not many places or people named after Odin. Odin was very much for the elite, while Thor was more for us rural and suburban retards.
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>>134396963
JTF2* not JTFO2*
>>134397252
Welp looks like I need to start doubling my time at the gym and I need to get rich
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>>134394628

You don't understand. I am saved by Christ. There is a tangible benefit to my life, and because of it I will inherit eternal Glory. There is a benefit I gain in this that no pagan LARPing will give any of you. That's why we look down on you, because you advocate for something you don't really believe. You're just atheists who realise how stupid atheism is.

But anyway, lets turn it around.

Remember that Vikings sold whites as slaves to Arabs. White women were especially in high demand.

http://m.thenational.ae/world/europe/when-the-arabs-met-the-vikings-new-discovery-suggests-ancient-links

You can tell why it appeals to the modern Swede, there ancestors basically invented a religion dedicated to weaponised cucking. Not only did they allow their women to have multiple husbands, they actively captured white women, and shipped them half way across the world so they could give them to shitskins.

When that failed they just decided to let all the shit skins into their country and rape their women without consequence.

It's no wonder the only time Nordic people weren't absolute cucks was the few hundred years they were Christians.
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>>134397434
sounds good m8
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>>134397595
Come home Anglo man. Thunor misses you.
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>>134397607
Its gunna be fun wherever I end up I wish to drink and fight! it will be glorious! also is there a 1080p version of that I could use as a wallpaper cause that is fantastic. also draw a Valknut would I do that pre battle, during the battle or while im bleeding out?
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>>134397884

The reason paganism is gone is because Christianity specifically existed to invalidate it. You no longer deal with powerful gods, they are nothing compared to the infinitely powerful god of the universe. You don't need to sacrifice anymore because God himself has offered his blood up for you to use. There is literally no reason to leave Christianity for reconstructed primitive beliefs.
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>>134398043
You should draw the valknut while you're bleeding out, that would be the most hard core and viking thing to do. As far and 1080p resolution, I can't help you there friend, I'm on mobile now :D
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>>134397884

Paganism as you almost certainly imagine it IS jewish propaganda. It is a construct made up by Jewish-dominated past-Enlightenment academia that has almost fucking nothing in common with what even ancient Greeks, never mind practicers of paganisms from which very little survived to our day, like that of the Norse, actually believed. It was made up to seem anything more than a collection of bloody and incosistent superstitions specifically to undermine Christianity.

Take a look at the most advanced paganism in history, Hinduism. A small bunch of Christian adventurers BTFOed a whole sub-continent its adherents and their descendants only failed to kept India under their thumb due to events that flowed from the Europe abandoning Christianity. Hinduism also was not very successful at teaching people to poo in loo of course.
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>>134398160
Its fine and that does sound viking asf I have to hope I get hit in the stomach/chest or something or maybe my leg in that big ass artery so I have time to carve it.
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>>134398204
I responded to this post in the last thread you posted this in faggot.
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>>134376152
>"No Catholics I know!"

Lol sorry but you aren't the majority of Catholics and the majority of brain washed church going Catholics are for gay rights. Jesus wouldn't discriminate would he goy? Remember goy Jesus made all men 'equal'?

You are pathetic if you think every single race is equal to one another.
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>>134398112
The reason for athiesm, deism, the abandonment of the church as a whole is because of urbanization, anomie and deracination. The same reasons that the Romans converted in the first 4 centuries, but in reverse and for opposite reasons. Yahweh had his chance with northern Europe and the Anglosphere but he failed. We need a religion that strengthens and reaches beyond familial bonds out to racial kinship as well my brother.
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>>134398535
>Awesome music
>Not Fucking awesome music
get out
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>>134398873
I am only a man, I can only make memes to a certain level of greatness as the gods allow.
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>>134398535

Paganism was weak and couldn't even defend it's own people. Might makes right, Christ is King.

Enjoy LARPing though. It won't mean anything in the long run.
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>>134398949
Carry on then.
I quite like this one
also I learned in the hearts of iron iv in the generals tab for I think its germans if you go far enough will find my relatives! kinda awesome
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>>134398961
Yeah, I guess enjoy islamism lol. Might makes right and all.
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So what is everyone listening to today?
Il start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ncMDROKkm0
I liek this band to much pagan black metal though. it sound horrible but power metal is all good.
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>>134399936
step your game up nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkOCBY2yypY
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>>134400224
Anon I dont think I can.
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>>134399936
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlDhm5wm2xY
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>>134400291
oooooh Falkenbach good choice anon
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>>134399230
That's something you larpers can't understand. We know what it means to have God with us. Islam will come and go, but we know the church will stand, because the Lord himself has said that the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
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>>134378266
Snorri Sturlson was christian. When writing these, it was common for the christian authors to 'demote' the old gods to legendary kings and heroes. Also
>his hair was fairer than gold
Hmmm
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>>134400391
Kek, if god is with you why is the church crumbling? the pope is a marxist cuck people are converting to islam and you fuckers aren't doing shit
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>>134400374
Yeah I like that guy. Don't know what he's up to now though, I think he stopped making music like 10 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6lrmxbPBqk
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>>134400678
Yea a shame I like Tyr a lot I used to listen to them when I was agnostic, actually they got me into researching about paganism I started to like it than I saw the Paganism threads here and I started reading more and more and realized that being a pagan was something meant for me. feels good man
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I recently lost a friend of nearly 7 years because he turned into a very zealous Christian. He went as far as to try and mock me and almost shame me into becoming Christian and it did the exact opposite. I merely want to respect and follow the ways of my ancestors and I think Christians just can't stand that. The respect we have for those that have stood up for the white race and our line in the past, they do not care for us and would rather us be wiped out from race mixing if it meant we all were Christian.

It saddens me to think he really follows just a false Idol of the desert, a weak and inferior being compared to the gods.He doesn't respect his ancestors and even started mocking them when he bolstered his faith, turning from a far right minded man into a centrist. He believes the Jesus BS of everyone is created equal but yet he cherry picks what is and isn't a sin in his eyes. It just shows who your real friends are, especially when they go as far as accepting Jews as 'gods chose people' just because Jesus was Jewish and they claim to be. Don't waste your time on Christian friends like I did, because in the end they could turn out like mine and become overly zealous and begin to try and convert you through mockery, which seems to be the trending fad in the modern era. If they don't like what my opinion is I am going to mock theirs and make them think what they believe isn't worth believing in.

TL;DR, don't make a long time friend out of a Christian, it will only disappoint you.
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>>134400678
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXjF9po2hYk
>>134400854
Can confirm family is steadfast religous they haven't asked my religion in years if they do I think I will tell em. will probably destroy our relationships
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>>134400854
Crazy if true. I've been an Odinist for years and got along with a Christian identity guy for a few years as well. Maybe you and your friend are just faggots that can't get past petty religious squabbles?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBlixPMAkR8
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>>134401355
I like it anon thx
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