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what do you guys think would happen if trotsky became the leader of the ussr instead of stalin?
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>>134355274
WWII would he been to fight communism and fascist ideas would seen like socialist ideas today.
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>>134355274
Communism would have failed anyway
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Lev Davidovich Bronstein was the author of Permanent Revolution. In which he states that ALL countries must become socialist, and only then we can achieve communism. So, I suspect that Lev Davidovich would have certainly pushed for the policy of total world socialisation in which USSR would essentially merge with the rest of the countries and cease to exist.
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>>134355274
Permanent Revolution was a better path to pursue than Socialism in One Country, but either way, the revolution still probably would have failed to take off in the advanced capitalist countries and the USSR would become a bureaucratic, degenerate hellhole.
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>>134355274
The exact same thing: internal genocides, economic stagnation, slave labor, and ultimate failure.
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>>134355274
Chicken wings for everyone.
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>>134355274
infinite kikery.
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>>134355274
Economically, the USSR would have been something similar to what Stalin did(planned industrialization)
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>>134356660
kek
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>>134356575
Pretty much this. The only diff might of been that trosky wasn't a fucking paranoid schizophrenic. So he probably wouldn't have killed have his officers and nco corp on thoughts and muh feels. So literally this pretty much. Just a lesser of two evils scenario.
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>>134355274
Would have been assassinated by someone who wasn't a numale faggot.
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>>134355274
I still recall when the neo-cons started using his playbook. Right wing commies was what they were and that's the exact school of thought they all follow, while Marxist and Lenninist follow and even worse idea.
So if:
Trotskyism (-R)
Leninism (-D)
and
Marxism (even gayer -D)
were to join forces then would they be the Marx Brothers?
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Comunism doesnt work man
Ancap will prevail
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>>134356660
This
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>>134355274
Probably would have collapsed the ussr in the 30
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This subject is adressed by Albert Camus in his book "The Rebel".
Longstory short nothing would have changed because by the time either Trotsky or Stalin were contesting the throne the rules had been laid out by Lenin.
The Marxist vision was too idealistic/fantastic to be translated literally so Lenin took the time to write a few books that would do this. Essentially laying down the Totalitarian State that would become the USSR.
The USSR was not Communist, it was Leninist, and this had been established long before Stalin and Trotsky contested command. The idea oh "muh the USSR was shit because of Stalin" is a bad meme.
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>>134357972
Pls leave commie.
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Europe would be free of german vermin
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>>134355274
>Trotsky

Please stop using this fake name. His real name was (((Lyev Bronstein)))
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>>134357972
I had no idea Camus wrote a book about the Bolsheviks. Is it any good?
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It would have to be put down.
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>>134358170
Did you even read my comment?
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>>134355494
this
>trotsky uses ussr to invade europe and force communism on everyone
>europe joins together to remove communism
>usa helps europe
>no muh 6 gorrilion
>jew look bad while the western world looks good
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>>134355274
That's Colonel Sanders fucking nigger
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>>134355274
Polish-Soviet War ended pretty much any discussion in USSR of exporting the revolution. It would've probably ended pretty much the same regardless.
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>>134358453
It´s not only about the bolsheviks, it´s a philosopical essay on the topic of "revolution". The most interesting part of the book is the section "The Historic Revolution" where he goes one by one trough each major revolt in history and draws parallels. Concluding that they are all deemed to fail in translating their ideas to reality.
And it´s a kickass book but you need to be philosophically savy. Quotes about a hundred of other authors/philosophers.
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>>134358696
Stalin still wanted to export it but his regime was a bit different. There's something incredibly creepy about early Bolshevik rule. Like it was full on internationalist movement. Stalin was more of a standard dictator but he did have plans of conquest he just never finished them. He got half of Europe though.
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