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Alphabay, Largest Darknet Market, Shut Down!

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AlphaBay was a successor to the first and most famous market operating on the so-called dark net, Silk Road, which the authorities took down in October 2013.

AlphaBay grew into a business with 200,000 users and 40,000 vendors — or 10 times the size of Silk Road — the Justice Department said on Thursday.

Mr. Cazes, originally from Canada, had his laptop open and was logged in to AlphaBay at the time of his arrest, allowing the authorities to gain access to all of AlphaBay’s hidden servers and financial accounts, according to legal documents unsealed on Thursday.

Mr. Cazes committed suicide in his jail cell shortly after he was arrested, the authorities said on Thursday. He was 25 years old.

The authorities have moved quickly to seize Mr. Cazes’ significant assets, including properties in Antigua, Cyprus and Thailand; 10 vehicles, including a Lamborghini and a Porsche; and financial assets of about $18 million.

Some of Mr. Cazes’ money was in the virtual currencies used on AlphaBay, including Bitcoin, Ether and Monero. He also had bank accounts in Liechtenstein, Thailand and Cyprus.

Officials said they had found Mr. Cazes because he posted his personal email address, [email protected], in some early messages from AlphaBay.

Even before AlphaBay went down, it had several large competitors. In the last few weeks, a site known as Dream Market has emerged as the leading player.

On Thursday, Dream Market had 57,000 listings for drugs and 4,000 listings for opioids.
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What does it mean for small time buyeers?

Are they fucked?
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>>134329999
No when they closed Silk Road they only went after a few vendors, not buyers, and especially not buyers of personal use quantities.
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Why do these massive names in cryptocurrency always have such terrible opsec
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>>134329999
I think they're fine but probably on a government database. Doesn't make sense for them to sort through thousands of users to go get a government agency to arrest billy who bought 5 hits of acid.

I think they want the carders, fent dealers, and any other vendors or irl resellers they can catch.
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>>134329559
Also, hansa was backdoored by the Dutch police for the last month.
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>>134330165
The vendors generally have great security the issue was the guy used a regular old email. Silk Road's founder, Ross Ulbricht, failed to use PGP and also used his real email for stuff:

Firstly, he was foolish with his email address and online identities while promoting the site, getting technical advice and hiring help, alleges the FBI. He used the same online handle (altoid) on several forum sites to make users aware that Silk Road was active in early 2011. He then used 'altoid' again to hire developers for a "venture-backed bitcoin startup company". But this time, he asked people to send their resumes to [email protected].

FBI investigators obtained the records for this email address from Google and cross-referenced it to Ulbricht's Google+ account. This included a photo that matched the picture on Ulbricht's LinkedIn account.

Ulbricht used the same email address - and his real name - when posting on Stack Overflow, a popular community site for programming advice. He asked how to connect to Tor using the PHP web programming language. Agents later found code on the Silk Road servers identical to the code that Stack Overflow members showed him.
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>>134330126
>>134330262

But it's been written in several articles that interpol is getting a lot of adresses from customers, is this situation not different from the silk road?

And what constitutes personal quantities in the eyes of ignorant G-men? I mean 30ish tabs is something I'd keep to myself and some friends, not something I'd make a profit from.

I'm going to be paranoid for a few weeks now.
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>>134330583
Generally not worth it to prosecute, and also that's why you are supposed to use PGP to encamp your address. I doubt anyone who didn't sell is in danger.
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>>134330823
encrypt*
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>>134330583
Its different for every drug but I think under 100 pills, an ounce of weed, 10g of MDMA, 50 tabs of lsd, around those amounts.
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>>134330583
You and me both buddy. Clean house, don't have any drugs on ya. And I'd say with purchases under like a couple hundred dollars of non hard drugs you should be fine.

Also, not sure, but what legally can they even do with just your address? I don't think they will launch a whole investigation into you being personal user off of just an address.
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>>134330583
I think they will focus on the producers not the consumers. If you bought stuff to use it won't be so bad, if you were selling products on it though then you're in poo poo.
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>>134330976
This is why you were supposed to post your address in PGP. You did that, right?
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>>134330583
>>134330976
>being degenerate
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It may be bullshit to hide the real method, but it seems the guy in Thailand was caught, not by tracing the server, but because he used, as the site's administrator, the e-mail account he'd been using for years on the clearnet.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3898109-AlphaBay-Cazes-Forfeiture-Complaint.html#document/p14/a363652
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>>134330823
I used the vendor's PGP on the site, but if they've been compromised for a whole month not sure if they are reliable.

>>134330924
That would be reasonable. Are G-men reasonable?

>>134330976
I'm picturing the RAID barging in my flat, seizing my laptop and going through everything I've downloaded and posted on /pol/ and other bullshit like losing my job, etc etc.

I'm stone cold sober, yet I've been told my whole like it was the drugs that would make me paranoid.
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>>134331187
They had control of hansa and switched vendors pgps with their own. We shall see what they do, if browsing chans for 8 years hasn't put me on some list, I am certainly on one now.
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>>134331187
I used the website's PGP... but how is that not compromised since the site has been watched for a month?

>>134331295
Brool story co.
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>>134331295
Fuck off
>>134331349
Early opsec error kills these big guys, he also had a forum account named alpha02 from 2009
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>>134331365
highly doubt they're going after Pot Heads or Pot Dealers mate.
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>>134331365
You think they can get a warrant off addresses alone? I doubt it.
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>>134331500
It is compromised
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>>134331568
>>134331627
I dunno how French cops do things though. I wish I was in the US right now
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>tfw no way to get a gun from deepweb
feels bad mane
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>>134331733
You'll be fine bro. Just keep a clean house for a couple months. After they seized silkroad they didn't seem to go after buyers of modest quantities. The Dutch seized nearly $3million in btc from hansa, I doubt your order of .023 worth of cid is anything to worry too much over. Learn from this, pgp encrypt manually, and tumble coins.
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>>134329559
>Mr. Cazes committed suicide in his jail cell shortly after he was arrested
How convenient. It's almost like I've never heard of similar cases before
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>>134332441
Thanks dude, it is a learning experience though.

Too much bullshit to deal with. I'll never rest easy while ordering online again.

Fuck, I don't want to just do homegrown mushrooms for the rest of my life.
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>>134332441
>>134332639
I used my personal email and house address when sill road went down
Nothing happens if you're small time
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>>134329559
>allowing the authorities to gain access to all of AlphaBay’s hidden servers and financial accounts

Ah yes more money for CIA black ops. God bless bitcoin.
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>>134330365
christ
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>>134330365
Even if that whole thing is parallel construction to hide the use of NSA records, Ulbricht is still retarded
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>>134330365
I also have my doubts over these claims, one has to wonder if maybe they were lying about how they came across this information. It doesn't seem to be in the best interest of intelligence agencies to expose their methods.
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>>134329559
>Officials said they had found Mr. Cazes because he posted his personal email address, [email protected], in some early messages from AlphaBay.

Is this a joke? They caught him almost the same way they caught Ross Ulbricht? Ulbricht also posted his real e-mail adress in an early "advertisment" for the site.
During the trail there where douts if this was really the method with which Ulbricht was found.
History repeats itself?
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>>134331627
There was extensive documentation of who the authorities went after when Silk Road went down. For one this site was 10x as popular so they are unlikely to be able to apprehend everybody.

That said, I thought Alphabay had an easy to work PGP functionality. Haven't used it in a long time.

With Silk Road, they only prosecuted maybe 50 of the largest vendors and most of those arrests came from doing weeks or months of surveillance in person on them and using people wearing a wire to deliver packages to them that they would have to sign to get in trouble. I don't think any just plain users of the Silk Road were targeted, though I could be wrong. There's a bunch of websites on the clearnet that go into extensive detail on this subject.

>>134332487
I'm not sure what to make of that.

>>134332639
Dream Market

>>134333681
Ross was known for not requiring PGP and not using it himself. Had he used pgp and throwaway emails he would not have gotten caught. Also, if these sites are honeypots, they take down a very small percentage of their users.
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>>134329559
He faked his death like the Ken Lay of Enron.

Nobody rich goes to jail. If they do they payoff the DA, Cops and Corner.

The only exception is of Madoff but he was made example of because he jewed other jews.
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>>134333817
like they are going to reveal the true power of X-Keyscore to the public.
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>>134333909
Thanks, you calmed me down a bit and you are correct about Ross' op sec mistakes bringing about his demise.

Do you no also fear that dream or dhl could be future targets? Or did the agencies "blow their load" so to speak, and are hoping this news is enough to scare users?
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>>134334284
It doesn't matter. Nobody who ever only used PGP and bitcoin has every been successfully prosecuted. As long as sites allow both, you are fine.
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>>134330262
Yeah but remember the new AG is Jeff "when I gas all the drug users I'm gonna start with the pot smokers" Sessions
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>>134334355
Except he has done nothing and Trump has been entirely unconcerned with social conservatism so far.
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>>134334249
Yep, sounds like it. They should have found a different "excuse" this time.
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I don't smoke cigarettes let alone drugs but I've always been fascinated by the darknet markets.
Can someone share any link to buy normal stuff like carrots or veggies or any other legal stuff?

When I visited darkweb in my teen days, I felt that place as overtly spooky and really weird. Sometimes I even had nightmares of stuff I saw there.
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>>134334350
But what if the vendors pgp is replaced by an agency, and your address is readable by the government? Supposedly they altered vendors pgps on hansa with their own, to trick users into sending them their information.
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>>134335009
They would have had to go in and manually replace the keys for every vendor on a huge website. Unlikely. Maybe on Hansa they did for a few big vendors, but I doubt that would reveal a lot of good info. On Silk Road they had the server flashed for a month or two I think before shutting it down and they did nothing of the sort. Vendors would notice if they had a different PGP key and orders would be unreadable so that would be noticed fast.

>>134334486
XKeyscore was supposedly/is used for email interception but only of unencrypted text and I assume only for providers they have a relationship with, gmail and such. Also that's only supposed to be used to intercept foreign intellegence and such. I'm sure they can read your gmail, but I don't think that means they have intercepted PGP or you would hear about a lot more arrests.
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>>134334916
One of Ulbrichts motivations for creating Silk Road was a actually the idea for a free totally unregulated market. Kind of like an experiment.
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>[email protected]
lol wtf
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>>134335542
My understanding was that he had dropped out of graduate school and needed something to do. It was never clear whether he was using drugs at the time, but certainly not as much as his administrators, a couple of whom died from Heroin. Also, I remember part of the story being he grew mushrooms and wanted to sell them. There was an interesting article about the cyclical nature of markets that internet drug sales had always existed, his was just the most advanced system for incorporating darknet and bitcoin.
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>>134335542
Yea I read about his Economics thought.
I consider him as a Visionary niceguy but he got caught.

I watched a documentary based on him. His parents are quite brave.
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>>134333909
>Dream Market
Is that the next one to get pwned?
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Fuck You jeff Sessions
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>>134329559
>[email protected]
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>>134335962
Dude whenever I watch his moms interviews I just try to imagine my mom in that situation. She would crack, no way she would handle it like ross' mom has.
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>>134335542
So he was a libertarian fag. I heard some crooked FBI agent managed to steal MILLIONS in bc + some guy was shaking down DPR for like mad moneys as well.
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>>134336284
>>134335705
Yes, this is really him
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>>134336145
It appears to be the largest one that is still functioning.

There are two ways for a market to die, the owners run off with the money, or the feds seize it.

>>134335962
>muh Agorism

They would never shut up about it. Had some pretty smart people involved though.

>>134336359
DEA agent I think. He went to jail though.
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>>134336511
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/31/nyregion/silk-road-case-federal-agents-charges.html
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>>134336359
Yeah, one dea agent posed as a hells angels biker and carried out fake hits for ross in exchange for Bitcoin.
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>>134336582
The agents, Carl Mark Force IV, who worked for the Drug Enforcement Administration, and Shaun W. Bridges, who worked for the Secret Service, had resigned amid growing scrutiny, and on Monday they were charged with money laundering and wire fraud. Mr. Force was also charged with theft of government property and conflict of interest.

While investigating Silk Road, Mr. Force “stole and converted to his own personal use a sizable amount of Bitcoins,” the digital currency that was used by buyers and sellers on the website and which he obtained in his undercover capacity, the complaint said.


“Rather than turning those Bitcoin over to the government, Force deposited them into his own personal accounts,” it added.

Mr. Bridges, meanwhile, who was described as a computer forensics expert, diverted to a personal account more than $800,000 in digital currency that he gained control of during the Silk Road investigation, the authorities said.

The complaint described both former agents as members of a Baltimore-based task force that investigated Silk Road. The website had been the subject of investigations in several cities. A Manhattan-based investigation ultimately led to the filing of charges against the website’s founder, Ross W. Ulbricht, who was convicted last month on numerous counts.
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>>134336627
The only part of the story unclear is if he was paranoid because he was on drugs (Ross).
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>>134336688
What drugs was ross suspected of being on? Speed or something?

And do you believe the transcripts of him ordering the hits to be real?
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>>134336505
He also had 10 cars.

And killed himself at 25.

Some people aren't very smart.
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>>134336806
No he wasn't suspected of being on them. I heard a story that he started Silk Road to sell shrooms he grow but the general impression was that he was fairly normal, perhaps drank and smoked pot, but wasn't into the harder drugs and research chemicals that delighted most of his staff.

>>134336898
I doubt that is actually him.
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>>134333681
You are probably right. Not long ago they ahd to release thousands of pedophiles because they would have had to disclose how they found incriminating evidence.
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>>134329559
>Officials said they had found Mr. Cazes because he posted his personal email address, [email protected], in some early messages from AlphaBay.

Loose lips sink ships
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>>134336898
As is the same with Ross, he seems like an exceptionally gifted kid who, because physically is removed from the situation, ended up getting in way deeper than he meant to or had the balls to initially.

Idk how any of these guys operating dark net markets expect to cash out that much Bitcoin without getting caught
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>>134336959
That is him, it comes up when you search his "pimp" hotmail email lol. Compared to his picture from LinkedIn it >>134336806
pretty similar.
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>>134335795
>My understanding was that he had dropped out of graduate school and needed something to do. It was never clear whether he was using drugs at the time, but certainly not as much as his administrators, a couple of whom died from Heroin. Also, I remember part of the story being he grew mushrooms and wanted to sell them. There was an interesting article about the cyclical nature of markets that internet drug sales had always existed, his was just the most advanced system for incorporating darknet and bitcoin.
Didn't he try first a legal online business? I think is was something with used books?
Then when he realised that this woudl be a fuckton of work and not much profi he changes his focus to the illegal markets?
I don't remember rn the libertarian theorist he liked to quote.
I think the whole theory / experiment with the free market was more an excuse.
He wanted to make money and try something exciting imho.
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All drug users need to spend time in jail.
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>>134333909
>I'm not sure what to make of that
Mr. Cazes was a nobody who wanted to play in the Big Boys League, made relatively large sum of money in short period of time with little to no risk from something which would put dozens of people for 10,000 years in prison.

All the facade aside, system is ruthless when it comes to punishment. Maybe he knew something or someone he shouldn't, idk, here in Poland people like him are sent into 24/7 'surveillance' cells and hang themselves in 30 square centimeters camera's blind spot
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>>134337323
Yes. Goodwagon Books. Mises. He called himself an agonist. They had a book club.

http://www.newsweek.com/key-moments-life-silk-road-creator-ross-ulbricht-307815

https://youtu.be/HYShi9dhhJY
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>>134329559
I made so much money through AB. I feel bad for him. He lived my ideology to the fullest.

Press F
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>>134337601
been there, done that.

some people are afraid to go out on a limb.
some people are not.

You appear to be the former. What's the matter, batshit insanity too scary for you?
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>>134329559
He didn't learn from how the silkroad guy got caught. Sad.
These people need to use a flash drive as part of their encryption key and have it tied to their wrist.
Police raid, yell hands up and out comes the only thing keeping you logged in. I'm sure they would rather "forget their password because stress" than get caught.
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>>134337735
That's actually pretty sweet. Good Lord.
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>>134337834
I really don't get why he killed himself. Surely he would get less than Ross (assuming he never solicited any murders for hire).
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>>134329559
I had $120 in bitcoins on AB when it was taken down

Are they gone for good?
Shame because I was about to order 60 hits of acid
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>>134337834
>both buttons on his jacket buttoned
You can have all the btc in the world but you can't buy class or style.
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>>134337834
Who is that pictured?

>>134338106
Ross was tackled very carefully in a library with his laptop open to avoid that problem. I believed he used a usb based linux that disappears without the flash but he didn't have it tied to his wrist.
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>>134338404
Only 2 dollars a hit now? Certainly those sites have democratized the prices.
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>>134338531
Alexander Cazes aka alpha02 aka the admin of alpha bay and the guy who "hung" himself in Thai prison last week.
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>>134338875
Interesting. Did he have any social media accounts?

https://youtu.be/XEdEr8CfF8o
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>>134338584
Yea, too bad I missed out right before it was taken down
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>>134339007
Wow.
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>>134339043
Way more sophisticated than SR1.
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>>134332117
I don't understand you even dear this shit.
Here you do it through people you know

I've lurked all these sites for keks and comparison, but would never use it
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>>134338486
>I'm gonna dress the same way everyone does
>but you guys have no style
You're the reason tailors stopped putting the bottom button. Try to find your own style instead of mimicking others, shitlord.
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>>134339007
Ordering from the Netherlands to us is sketchy fyi
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>>134339007
Surely it's just 1P

I highly down anyone's dropped the price of real acid to a dollar a hit for regular folk

Plus nobody's going to break down a gram into an amount like 110ug a hit. This means they broke down a gram and a tenth every pack, but for what? To say they have more in each hit? Naw.
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>>134339318
It fits him like shit though
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>>134339483
Yeah, it's too small for him, plus the fabric is shit.
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You guys know this guy got murk'd, right? it wasn't a suicide.

I'm pretty sure the FBI (or some low-ish yet still fairly high gov agency) seized servers, and found quite a bit more than just Alphabay related stuff. prob some CIA shenanigans (i.e. pedo blackmail, human trafficking, or weapons stuff) in one form or another. in order to tie up looses ends, they aired it as solely Alphabay bust, ad then kill the admin. case closed. never hear a peep about whatever else they found.

either that, or they're just using this for publicity, like they did with the first SR site. ever notice the BTC price skyrocket shortly following all the news coverage of SR1/Ross trial? it's not an accident.
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So was it Alpha or DeSnake that killed himself?
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>>134340431
If I were that rich, living in Thailand, I'm sure I'd have a contingency plan in place or something. Maybe he bribed a guard and is in Belize.
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>>134340807
Alpha02
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/alphabay-largest-online-dark-market-shut-down
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>>134340815
Ross was going to run off to Dominica I believe when he was captured.
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>>134341000
I still cannot believe for how bright Ross was, that he operated out of the United States.
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>>134333909
>Had he used pgp and throwaway emails he would not have gotten caught
>what is parallel construction
They just found plausible explanation with his opsec weakness after they found him with other methods.
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>>134340815

who knows. it wouldn't surprise me if the email thing had been planned since the start, though. a perfect little breadcrumb. nobody, even a noob, is that retarded. ESPECIALLY after Ross. I wouldn't doubt the guy was little more than a high level "smurf" as well, buying various properties, cars, posing in silly stupid photos all for use by the group operating behind the scenes. I'd be incredibly curious to know what was going on in his properties all the time he's not there....they were in quite a few different countries. sounds like CIA to me

anyway what we are seeing IS the contingency plan. maybe not necessarily his contingency plan, but somebody's.

read up on the Son of Sam killings. it was done by a group, not an individual, and the story the public got was the contingency plan. the orchestration is absolutely insane. it's the same thing going on here.
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>>134341380
I'm inclined to agree.
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>>134335009
>But what if the vendors pgp is replaced by an agency
Why? Just backdoor into target computer and read emails before they are encrypted.
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>>134341380
Ross made tons of posts on SR forums that he didn't personally use PGP. Unless his character was a fabrication from the beginning it was clear he had shitty security.
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>>134339334
LSD is so stealthy to mail it's not a big deal

They usually hide it in the layer of a greeting card or something equally clever
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>>134338269
>I really don't get why he killed himself.
So he would not say things in court.
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>>134341784
>>134338269
>>134337834
He was either killed by a merc or faked his own death because he's got connections in the government.

Still I hope his operations are halted for a while. These "black market" criminals need to be hanged publicly.
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>>134342043
>These "black market" criminals need to be hanged publicly.
You mean CIA and DANS?
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>>134342425
Just fucking hang everyone and everything.
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>>134342043
>faked his own death because he's got connections in the government
Get out of fantasy land. He was just a front man, the minute he bacame a liability they removed him. No man no problem. End of story, dying in prison is easy, not to mention dying in Thai prison
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>>134338269
He was about to swap an $18million lifestyle with fast cars and fun for a federal prison cell, probably for the next two decades at least. It's understandable he'd choose to exit early. Quite how he was able to do so is another matter entirely. Maybe he was whacked to cover up the NSA trader account or whatever?
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>>134334228
lmao doubt he has that much money that he can pay off authorities of a first world country just like that. also, emarkets like this represent a danger to the juden, so its most likely that he got suicided and thats that
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>>134341621
>LSD is so stealthy to mail it's not a big deal

I ordered some 1P-LSD from a Canadian clearnet site a few months ago and got pic related in an envelope

I guess it didn't need "real stealth" like a greeting card since it's grey area stuff
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This Alex guy was renting a local in the basement of my gym to hide some computers he used to run his organisation. The owner even told me that he ran into the FBI and the RCMP as they showed up, kek.

Turns out he also commited "suicide" in thailand before being extraded.
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>>134341248
>>134340815
how do you even manage an operation like this with a contingency plan, sounds like if they want to smack you they will anyways
maybe from paraguay....
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>>134338269
he was probably killed so they wouldnt have to take him to court and expose hwo they found him.
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>>134332117

Better to just get one local. Legally in the US. If you are in some freedom less shit hole some eastern Europeans might have something for you.
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>>134344143
I guess operating under a fresh pseudonym that has nothing linked to you whatsoever, and running the operation from a non extradition country.
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>>134336505
He should have killed himself a long time ago, for being a wigger. Lol look at his shirt.
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So, uh, what's the next biggest site?

Asking for a friend
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>>134343630
Did you have a decent trip with that shit?
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>>134345272
dream
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>>134331365
Did u use Automated PGP offered by the site u used? if so there should be some concern but for small timers its not worth the time LE to chase you as part of the case
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I don't really understand the lack of Opsec and physical security that these guys exhibit. It's just mind boggling.

If I were inclined to start such an operation, the very first thing I would do is test my opsec and physical security measures. I'd have dead man signals employed on a fairly regular basis, so everything gets wiped if I'm hemmed up. Have regular encrypted backups with random keys that are offloaded to a secret site only *I* know about. That way, I have copies of the site if I can bring it back online if I'm free, and if I'm not I have plausible deniability of the encryption keys to the backup. Multiple redundant warm-sites for failovers. I'd only access my site from an encrypted burner phone in some empty field so I could see agents coming and have time to execute contingency plans. Alex and Ross HAD the resources to accomplish all of these measures but chose not to do it. Instead, they invested in cars, whores, hit jobs, etc. Seems crazy to me. Maybe I'm a bit jaded because I lack the programming skill to pull an operation like SR or AB off, but also frustrated because I work in IT security and I write and perform contingency plans, disaster recovery plans, backup plans, etc on a regular basis.
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>>134332117
if your white you can make one, easy mode with bb/airsoft as starting point, many 1911 versions are close and this sig stamped one is very close
http://airgunsource.com/sig-sauer-p226-x-five-blowback/dp/604
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>>134345339
Fuck yea
Took 600ug the day after I got them and tripped the hardest I have in my life

1P-LSD is basically just as good as LSD-25 in my opinion
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I lost $10 in my wallet on that site
FUCK THE POHLICE
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>>134330583
>>134330976
niggas, stop using drugs, youre clearly paranoid
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>>134346001
>FUCK THE POHLICE
Don't worry they'll be knocking on your door with an arrest warrant in 5 mins so you'll have the chance to do that
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>>134345872
What if every large distributor is just honey potted and killed as they get big so they couldn't outmaneuver the government if they tried. This is how the government is going to use the dark web as a means to make money off drugs and murder.
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>>134347172
Whatever happened to the US government agents who tried to embezzle those confiscated silk road bitcoin millions?
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>>134344426
you can only get one here through 8 or so years of paper wars and shooting ranges and even then they can just say no to your permit if they feel like it
gotta love finland
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>>134347587
as paranoid as that sounds, its plausible.
Except Ross wasn't killed, so that kinda puts a big hole in that theory. But yeah, i'm pretty sure the CIA has been using darknet operations. An anonymous site to move anonymous currency around for illicit behavior? Are you kidding me? CIA's wet dream.
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>>134346274
Yeah no
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>>134348436
Well its what they do with Carlos slim and his cronies, its what they do or did with ISIS until trump shut down the flow of money streams. The dark web is the governments playground for the prison slave system. Im not bullshitting you either like they rely on control schemes to make money. If they really wanted to end crime they would shut down the dark web and decriminalize drugs but theres too much money to be made here.
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>>134329999
Nice didgets anon
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Fuck Fuck Fuck

I ordered steroids for myself half a year ago and used the sellers pgp key to encrypt my address

This shit has me paranoid as fuck..
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what was the 6 million worth of bitcoin transactions that happened about the time alphabay went down? would that have been a bribe?
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>>134354544
>half a year ago
>used sellers pgp to encrypt my address
Then you're fine
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Are there any cool legal things I can buy on the darkweb?
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>>134359631
heard about some underground fidget spinner sites
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>>134359631
Child bride, AK-47, & Ludwig Von Mises books
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just fyi they are going after the BUYERS since they dont know who the sellers are. If you didn't encrypt your address when ordering you should probably find a lawyer.
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>>134359891
He specifically asked for legal products idiot. Are there any ive never been to the dark webz.
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>>134359631
Well, besides drugs, the most common thing on darknet markets are either counterfeit watches or logins for pornsites/netflix accounts. Not as illegal. Also there's Viagra or meth precursors that you typically can't get in large amounts.
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>>134361292
CHILD BRIDES ARE LEGAL NIGGER
AGE OF CONSENT LAWS ARE ARBITRARY AND UNJUST
BURN DOWN THE POST OFFICE
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>>134361799
Pretty sure trading children for money still falls under human trafficking laws, even if you marry them.
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>>134361799
Yeah my fault for actually thinking i could acquire knowledge on 4 chan. Carry on.
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my friend ordered a half ounce of weed on hansa over the past month, think he'll get a visist from the police?
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>>134329999
>Mr. Cazes committed suicide in his jail cell shortly after he was arrested, the authorities said on Thursday. He was 25 years old.

L O L

Sure he did
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>>134345504

Dream in compromised too. So is Hansa. They already had those two seized when they shut down Alphabay. They left them up intentionally to snag all the refugees from Alpha.

I'd let the dust settle before find a new market.
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>>134359101
Also messages and purchases were purged every 30 days. I should be good, was just a bit worried for a sec. Wew lads.
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>>134336647
Dumbass should have held it for a few years and moved it offshore.
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>>134362279
Nah.
>>134354544
Bro you're fine. The seller's private key would not be stored on the website (unless he was extremely retarded). The only thing that would be on hansa would be the PGP message and the vedors public key.

If his (the vendor's) private key was stored then he is fucked.
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>>134362898
this got me a touch concerned i must say
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>>134347644
If they are halfway smart, we should know nothing about it.
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>>134333004
>imblying shitcoins weren't government controlled all along
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Americans ruin everything, see you all in the slammer, ill be wearing a maga hat.
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>>134367032
>Americans ruin everything.
It was the Dutch who took down Hansa.
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>>134367197
Yeah it was a collaboration led by the dutch. Small european governments can be great in investigations since they arent bogged down by global interests.
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>>134329559
Mr. Cazes never existed. These places are controlled by intelligence agencies. Just like the Silkroad guy, it's all bullshit
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>>134369052
>US Govt busts Alphabay and shuts it down.
>Vendors and buyers panic and flee to Hansa.
>"The Dutch National Police have located Hansa Market and taken over control of this marketplace since June 20, 2017. We have modified the source code, which allowed us to capture passwords, PGP-encrypted order information, IP-Addresses, Bitcoins and other relevant information that may help law enforcement agencies worldwide to identify users of this marketplace."
>"WE RECORDED AN EIGHT TIMES INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF HUMAN USERS ON HANSA IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE TAKEDOWN OF ALPHA BAY. SINCE THE UNDERCOVER OPERATION TO TAKE OVER HANSA MARKET BY THE DUTCH POLICE, USERNAMES AND PASSWORDS OF THOUSANDS OF BUYERS AND SELLERS OF ILLICIT COMMODITIES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND ARE THE SUBJECT OF FOLLOW-UP INVESTIGATIONS BY EUROPOL AND OUR PARTNER AGENCIES."

A perfectly executed trap.
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>>134370112
$$$$$$$$$
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>>134329559
>Mr. Cazes committed suicide in his jail cell shortly after he was arrested,
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god dammit Alpharius, you've failed us
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>>134329559
All drug users should be executed.
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>>134371287
you must be fun at parties
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>tfw already got through my drug phase

Feels good. I've still got 5g MDMA, 80 hits of acid, and 1g of 2c-b that I never touched. Those were some fucking glory days; I stayed high for a good 3 years. Wish I held onto those btc instead of spending them on drugs. I'd be a millionaire.
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>>134371287
so you're telling me you don't enjoy good highs? coffee? tea? alcohol? Cheese? Sugar? most people don't know this but cheese produces a morphine like high due to morphine like molecules that get produced after digestion from cheese. these are all addictive and legal.
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>>134336505
looks pretty cool for a whhite guy
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