Global warming - take 2

what they are, yet I know not
but they shall be the terrors of the Earth

>>134302333
Well (((they))) said it, so it must be true.

>>134302333
oh shit guys we just suffered a blow who knew
sage

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>>134302333
K keep me posted

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>>134302333
I won't fall for your Jewish tricks

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>>134302333
>mankind is to blame
It's not us, it's the cows.

>>134302333
>Planet melts
>Frozen diseases unleash
>Wipe nearly everything out

What's the big deal?

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>>134302333
look at what i circled retard

>>134305678
The Planet that Farted to Death

>>134302333
>mankind is to blame
Prove it.

>>134306286
what band is that?
>>134306038

>>134302333
Climetards are idiots and your post proves human lemmings are everywhere. Hey, let's put up a satellite to "measure" something we've never measured before then extrapolate false data into political sloganeering. Go fuck yourself climetard, we're sick of you. You are the brain tumors of "science" and need to be irradiated like the tumors you are.

>data correction
>we changed the numbers and now it says what we want it to

>>134305678
Theres a sea algae that, when you mix it into a cows diet, lower the output of carbon oxide by 75%

But psssshht dont tell anybody.

>>134302333
if global warming is real then what is the mathematical formula for co2 to ocean level and ice sheet melting

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>>134306610

Do you know what Band Tshirt the Guy in the picture is wearing ?

>>134302333
What's with all these jew threads?

(((correction)))

>>134306784
little johnny is dying and they need to get some yungblood

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(((corrections)))
(((adjustments)))

>>134306713
Ah, this is an interesting question. Anybody can answer it?

>>134302333
140% of 0 is still 0

>>134302333
>X sceptics suffer blow as satellite data corrections shows 140% faster Z

>>134306842
Probable.

http://notrickszone.com/2017/07/17/swiss-physicist-concludes-ipcc-assumptions-violate-reality-co2-a-very-weak-greenhouse-gas/#sthash.4S4Pasmd.dpbs

Suck it up, climetards

>correction

>>134302333
Why should I care though? My country will be alright, and I'll be dead before it gets really bad. I'll never have a family or kids and I don't give a fuck about the degenerate society I live in. So again, why should I care?

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>>134306713
>>134306978

not a formula but a curve, derived from paleoclimate data
this comes from Foster et al. 2012
"Relationship between sea level and climate forcing by CO2 on geological timescales"

>>134306967
What are the adjustments based on in your graphic?

>>134306978
the answer is none of these climate atheistfags can answer it. Everything in science is reduced down to a formula or equation...but global warming. But remember we need to (((believe))) in global warming and stop asking so many questions

I think you'll find most agree that climate change is an issue to some degree. The difference is we know the solution isn't more taxes or government intervention.

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>>134307136
I wonder

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>>134307090
How do we know this isn't a false correlation?I am genuinely interesting, btw. I'm not here to mock anyone.
See pic related.

>>134307090
then it's not science. That's like saying gravity is real because i saw an apple fall. Science is all about formula and equations...except for global warming because it doesn't exist

>>134302333

fake news

>>134306610
>cletus still denies basic science

do you even have a GED?

Climetards : will lie for food (and gubbermint funding of muh junk science)

http://notrickszone.com/100-papers-sun-drives-climate/#sthash.VLFc3AFF.dpbs

http://notrickszone.com/climate-scandals/#sthash.bEYwrqAn.dpbs

I am a Chinese, and I am telling u, gloabal warming is a joke.

>>134302333
>1 post by this ID

fuck off shills , sage

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>>134302333
Then do us a favor kys. Eliminate that footprint and take some friends with you. We're not going to go back to the dark ages because of your political agenda

>>134302333
Who took that pic?

>>134307266
The only Cletus here are Climetards vying for a ride on al gore's airplane. That must include you.

>>134307210
from the paper:
>A combination of data from all five time slices (Fig. 3A) reveals that on these longer timescales, there is a clearly sigmoidal relationship between sea level and climate forcing by CO2. Moreover, there is a striking similarity between data from different time periods and those generated by different techniques (e.g., Fig. 3A). This overall agreement implies that this relationship is robust and reflects the fundamental behavior of the Cenozoic climate system, despite some significant changes in boundary conditions (e.g., closing of the Panama Gateway since the Pliocene, closure of Tethys since the Miocene).

So, the previous models didn't work, huh? It's almost like the science isn't settled.

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>>134307110

Got a version of that that isn't blurry as shit?

>>134302333
>Florida will be underwater by 1999... Uh 2050. Muh foot of sea level rise in the next 3 decades. It's totally real this time!

Your Ilk have been spouting the same shit for literally 40 years at this point. In the 70's and 80's it was global cooling, then global warming in the 90's, and now "climate change" with the last fake timetable passing by like Y2K or the Mayan apocalipse

"Green" energy is fucking retarded and usually results in a damn net loss when you consider what it costs to build. Thorium reactors btfo wind warms and solar in every way. Yet the US could become energy independent just through tarsands, coal, and natural gas.

>>134305479
>time magazine
>a fucking shitty news journal and not a science one.
fuck off media shill

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SAY ALL YOU GUYS WANT BUT I AM FINDING OUT WHAT BAND TSHIRT THIS IS

>>134307210
I'm also not quite sure what you're trying to say with that graphic

>>134302333
>we have to lie harder. The goy are waking up.

>>134307814
We might be living a natural warm period. It has happened before.

>>134302333
>global warming is real
yes
>mankind is to blame
no

I know this may pass as a revolutionary idea.

>>134307210
if you are generally interested i couldnt answer these details but I do know someone versed in picking apart the media bullshit the left and right pervades on the issue

mostly the right

Honestly cant understand why anyone thinks this is jewish tricks, having everyone but them even more destitute is what they want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52KLGqDSAjo&list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP&index=1

>satellite data correction
>correction
>"Satellites are undermining our lies! Correct the records!"

>>134306038
explain what im looking at.

>>134307182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXesBhYwdRo&index=7&list=PL82yk73N8eoX-Xobr_TfHsWPfAIyI7VAP

>>134305678
If it wasn't for the perverted meat consumption, there wouldn't be so many cows.

>>134308025
Dude taking a picture.

I require information about the band on his tshirt.

>>134307700
see >>134307955
you dumb media shill

Global warming will make the planet liveable for only nigs and mestizos. This is a WHITE issue.

>>134302333
Global warming was debunked around 2007 when it turned out most of Al Gores research was made up bullshit

we call it climate change now as the implications are not that the world will burn just that the climate will change due to our influence which no shit

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>>134307925
firstly: I don't think you could win a flower pot by pointing out that it was warmer than today in the past. Paleoclimatologists have known this for decades now. And not only do they know that temperatures were higher in the past, they can also look at what caused them to be higher. And greenhouse gases (mainly CO2) has played an absolutely crucial role in these warm periods.

b) The climate doesn't just change randomly, it has to be driven. And for it to be driven, there has to be a forcing that's applied.

c) The Medieval warm period (or "Medieval Climate Anomaly", as climatologists call it) was very likely an event constrained to several regions on the globe, not a synchronous global event.
It doesn't show up in global reconstructions like this one

>>134307740
that gay antifa band

>Climate is supposed to be getting warmer
>it is indeed getting warmer
What is the problem?
The earth has warmed and cooled down again and again over thousands of years.

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>>134302333
>data correction

>>134302333
I think it's real and man made.


But I don't really care.

>>134302333
So what if global warming is real? So what if it's being driven by human industry? Your solutions are pipe dreams, not so much because they wouldn't address the problem but, because they threaten too many people's interests.
>yes, yes, anon, those ebil corporate interests
No, retard. *Your* interests. *My* interests. The welfare of ordinary Joe's the world over. Corporations exploit those interests. They didn't invent them...
>wuuuuut!? What greater interest is there than the future of the planet and human existence itself, retard?
Making sure your kids eat tomorrow. Scraping enough loose change together for a butane canister so you can cook that food.
Paying your energy bills. Keeping your car on the road so you can drive for an hour to work.

Liberal solutions to these problems isn't to offer cheaper sustainable alternatives - it's to drive up the cost of non-sustainable existing supplies, by imposing artificial tariffs and regulation. Once again, the 3rd way liberals are happy to hurt those they purport to represent - the poor - in the name of "progress". The liberals can afford to pay regardless.
>so wut do, faggot?
Adapt. Climate change is going to happen. New infrastructure will be needed to mitigate the environmental impact. New infrastructure means new markets.
This is realistic. It's in everyone's interest, including that of our ebil corporate overlords.

>>134308262
>The climate doesn't just change randomly, it has to be driven. And for it to be driven, there has to be a forcing that's applied.
so the ice age melted because dinosaurs were driving gas guzzling suvs?

>>134308285
because they want your money goy

>>134302333
So what you are saying is that the past "settled science" suddenly turned out to be wrong but this time its honestly really 100% settled?
Just like the one time they preached that we all will freeze to death or that the polar caps at the latest will be gone by 2013? But again this time its 100% settled even if the same was said a week ago about crap we now know was false...hmm

Yeah you see this argument of "lol yes yesterday and a week ago we were wrong...and we were wrong 3 decades ago too multible times.... but this time!!! hahah skeptics btfo!! the science is again settled!!" is kinda crap and i am not even skeptic in fact the only thing i didnt like about trump was his stupid stance on global warming.

>>134308405
I have no money, so you can't take any.

>>134306637
This desu senpai

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>mfw we're fucked and there's nothing we can do
>mfw 90% of animal species will disappear in the next 20 years
>mfw mankind has no destiny. It's just a species like other with a beginning and an end and religions were just a big meme

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>>134308025
>>134308280

>>134302333
take it to /sci
i bet they tell you it's fake too

>>134308369
I love it when people say things like that.
You're basically wielding your own ignorance as a weapon.
I really wonder what goes through the minds of people who talk and think and sound like that.

>>134308262
The sun has cycles that drive climate. Do some actual research and stop believing the fear mongering.

>>134306983
this

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>>134308280
>>134308548

by the way.

>>134302333
That's not what we doubt. What we doubt is that giving $100bn a year to "developing" nations, importing the population of Africa, and surrendering our sovereignty and freedom to you tyrant fucks is the best solution as opposed to say nuclear energy with the goal being sustainable fusion by 2040.

>>134302333
Americans are the only woke people who can see clearly the scam behind this shit.

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>>134308058
9 minutes of control damage saying that nothing happened won't delete the truth

>>134308548
and i love it when you have nothing to retort it. prove me wrong atheistfag

>>134308528
Jews in space?

>>134308703
what is there to prove wrong? You haven't presented anything

Anyone who doesn't support alternative energy sources is sucking centralized banking's and Arab oil sheik's cocks.

>>134302333
in previous times science was banned because it contradicted the official line of powerful people.

these days science has been altered to suit powerful people and to question it is considered wrong despite the protestant or open minded train of thought is the basis of science and other analytical arts.

to show a different theory of science is to be a pariah as it was to be gallileo in the court of the vatican in the middle ages.

of course the god now is the banks,satan and the carbon tax and big oil who are in on it too.

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>>134308834
more like a dude in his basement.

>>134308874
i've proven that there was no driving force for the ice age melting besides dinosaurs driving gas guzzling suvs

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how can there be global warming if the world isnt a globe?

check mate

>>134308960
you obviously don't take anything you write seriously so I don't see why anyone else should

>>134305678
This. Kill all chicken and cows!

Climate change is another needlessly politicized issue that gets you fucking retards to ignore the fact that continued use of oil only goes to make Arab nations richer and make the petrodollar stronger.

The merchants worst nightmare is renewable energy tech being bought with decentralized crypto currency.

>>134302333

This is still an observational study. It is not possible to determine causation without a control earth.

Learn basic statistics.

>>134308262
>2000 year graph
>Appropriate study for a billion year old planet

>>134309095
take a look at the vegans do you know what happens to cows pigs and chickens and such if they had their way?

>They want to destroy the species.

/thread

>>134308058
It's even worse than I thought... the video doesn't even scratch the surface. It only talks about 1 (one) email that I didn't even post and explains peer review as a novelty. What the fuck? Did you even watch it?

>>134309065

He's a trumpcuck, his only motivation is to "piss of libtards" until he gets kicked out of mommys house and is forced to pay his own bills. it's sad to watch

>>134309065
so what was the driving force for the ice caps melting after the ice age you jew

>>134307673
>phone posting
Just remove the m in the url

>>134309162
the topic was on the MCA, so why would I post a graphic that includes the temperature of the Cambrian?

>>134309217
Winner of the 2016 election
Trump

what did you hillarytard win? oh right tears and lonely nights at home

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>>134305479
kys you fucking liar

>>134309217
People who pay taxes vote Republican overwhelmingly.

>>134309065
Maybe you should go re-read your post, because that anon is right.
You previously said that the climate does not change unless it is driven by something.

What drove the climate during the countless extinction events? If humans have such an impact on climate today, then previous climate events should have also been caused by megafauna screwing things up.

Or, you know, it could just be the sun cycling like usual. Did you know most of the heat in Earth comes from the sun?

>>134309304
i burned so much nat gas to save our plant from freezing

>>134302333
yes global warming is real... which is why they changed the name to climate change...

>>134309283
Data extrapolation takes all data points into account. It is scientifically dishonest to not show the entire extrapolated graph, even if you aren't focusing on the entire thing.

>>134302333
Who took that picture of the ISS?

And we can't believe anything msm says about science.

>>134309225
just google it, I'm not going to spend my time and explain this to someone who thinks dinosaurs driving cars is the only possible answer.

>>134302333
I have a solution OP.
It's called kill a faggot and save the world by reducing CO2 footprint.

Here what you do.
STOP BREATHING

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>>134309496
You are a liar.

Search Results
Image result for why the ice melted after the ice age
It began at the end of the last glacial period, about 10,000 years ago. The variation of sunlight reaching Earth is one cause of ice ages. Scientists are still working to understand what causes ice ages. One important factor is the amount of light Earth receives from the Sun .

>>134309496
so basically you just disproved your own theory. that the earth actually goes in cycles instead of a static ball waiting for someone or something to push it. great

you just learned global warming is fake. are you woke yet

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>>134309644
one big factor is why did we even have ice to begin with. or a long time the earth had large no ice formation and then suddenly ice age and the formation of the glacier poles

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>>134309283
Because you omitted data of the total temperature to only include the recent upswing to make it look like humans are responsible

>>134309658
Your point keeps going right over his head. Good luck convincing the blind to open their eyes.

>>134302333
Yes goy, invest in rare earth mineral tech like solar and wind even though there is no domestic production. Yes goy, don't give money to arabs give it to chinks instead. What could go wrong basing your entire energy market on a resource across the ocean that you don't control. Hey goy, ignore the fact there isn't even enough raw materials for the world to transition to solar but invest in it anyway. Gotta get moishe another boat. Haha don't burn all that free coal that's in the ground. Think of the pollution! Haha but ignore that open pit mine and acid drainage ponds that acquire those REEs for those panels. Haha it's a worthy sacrifice to not be a polluter haha!

>>134302333
wowwww its almost like weve been at the tail end of an ice age for thousands of years and kike politicians are using it to gain more control over the goyum

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>>134309737
The place we live is cyclical

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>>134308528
I'm not really seeing that outline in the original photo, but you do realize that the picture is taken through a window from inside shuttle, right? There are reflections and out of focus scratches/specks/etc. on the glass.

Also that's Mir, not the ISS.

>>134309594
The suicide of one Australian is 3 times more efficient than the suicide of one European.

Please do us all a favor.

>>134302333
>Satellite data corrections
>data corrections
>corrections

Show raw data, show corrected data, show reasoning and mathematical formula for corrections. Then we can talk. You clearly do not know how to science. Are you Bill Nye the Cuckold Guy?

>>134309924
i sometime ask if reincarnation is real and we're just repeating the same shit over and over again

>>134309970
still in your picture pal you cut the picture too short you can still see the writing on his tshirt.

Why is he not in his uniform theres meant to be no contaminating articles up there.

>>134309327
I get the same feeling about you as with the other one:
Why would you proudly parade your own ignorance around as if that would constitute an actual argument?
If you would just ask "What drove the climate during the countless extinction events?" as a good-faith question out of interest, it would be fine.
But the question you're confident can't possibly have any answer besides "megafauna screwing things up" has been answered several decades ago and is completely uncontroversial.
Anyone who thinks about the matter for 4 seconds can see that there are other sources of CO2 than human emissions.
The main source in the past was Volcanic exhalation.
In the case of the end-Permian event, it was the eruption of the Siberian Traps.
In the case of the Triassic-Jurassic boundary event, it was the main phase of the CAMP.

If you just would spend 5 minutes googling this, we could be spared all of this.

>>134310109
Google

Trump + Patton

Or Keanu Reeves 500 years+

>>134309784
I think you would have to admit that you're the father of an enormous tautology with this.
Clearly, humans can't be responsible for climatic changes at times when the human species didn't even exist.

>>134310243
or barron trump vs antifa

>>134310149
if the earth is a static ball then what is the earth's original neutral point? what did the earth look like when nothing affected its climate?

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>>134310143
All I see is cloud shadows and some dust and scratches on the glass. A reflection of the photographer is certainly possible, but I don't see it.

>>134310403
Let me help you.

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>>134310429

Nice slide thread shill

>>134302333
It doesn't matter. At this point we have to go carbon negative to fix things. We were fucked decades ago. There's no turning back.

>>134310560
i propose we start killing all liberals and muslims

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>>134310403
>>134310461

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>>134310403
Also, the crew didn't wear their flight suits at all times inside the shuttle. Once they were safely in orbit they were allowed to get more comfortable.

How do we save the Earth before it's too late?

>>134310255
You're honestly retarded,it shows climate change isn't man made this is the Earth's natural cycle. If the temperature continues past the regular wave then we can blame the human industrial revolution kill earth meme.

>>134310700
You call these people astronauts?
Crumbs?

You goto be fucking kidding me.

>>134302333
"Satallite data correction"

Translation for laymen: we need mo money fo dem programs so we fudged the raw data to produce a pretty graph showing non existant warming.

Why would you take alterations to data seriously after leaked emails showed nasa/ipcc scientists intentionally colluded to rig the data to show warming when there wasnt any?

Why would you still take these people seriously?

I see easily more than 20 breach of regulation in that image.

>>134302333
It has been shown that the low amount of light and warmth causes autism in black children living in Scandinavian countries, considering the demographic shift in the next 50 years global warming should be embraced and fostered to better help the new Europeans adapting to their environment.

so why aren't they dead if they are truly in low earth orbit ?

>>134302333
Earth is growing and pushing land into different climates.

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>>134310781
it already has
we're past the entire range of the Holocene.
If the dominant factor were the regular glacial-interglacial cycle, we would actually see a very slow cooling, not an abrupt uptick in temperature and an insane uptick in CO2 and CH4 concentrations

>>134310765
It was too late decades ago. There's no turning back.

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You do know whats up there right ?

>The everyday common man is to blame for global warming.
>Letting off multiple atomic blasts across the planet in the last 100 years couldn't have done this.

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>>134310961
nigger cops can't carbon date something a week old get out of here with your homosexual sex partner gathering for your gay sun worship orgy.

>>134310961
i couldn't tell with some asshole putting a bunch of red at the end to cover up the data

>>134302333
Why they fuck do you Euros care so much about this crap - you're going to be Islamic republics by the end of the century anyway.

They're used to sandy deserts and will be fine once you're long gone.

>>134302333
how can you be off by 2.4x?

How can global warming researchers have any credibility by having such shit predictions. 500times too much warming 400 times too little warming, you might as well just kys.

>>134311016
and elon musk flies in his private jet on a daily basis. nope co2 is only when the common man does it

>>134310973
a vast void of conspiracies and autism?

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>>134302333
lol this damage control
>no wait, it's not SLOWER than we thought, we double-checked and it's actually 140% FASTER HOLY FUCK WE GONNA DIEEEEEE
kek

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Do you understand global warming is a made up lie to benefit the government so it can use money to fuel the far left and the CIA? Global warming is a natural occurrence since the dawn of the dinosaurs. Go back to your "scientists" who manipulate the records shill.

>>134311083
remember when al gore said no kid will know what snow is after 2013? kek

>>134310836
Shuttle missions only lasted a week or two, they didn't need a bunch of freeze-dried or paste food that would last for months without perishing.

>>134311169
How does that Saudi cock taste? You can continue to worship your Arab oil and Jewish petrodollar. I'll be praising the sun.

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>>134310961
10,000 years doesn't show the entire wavelength you fucking idiot. You're doing the exact same thing that you did earlier just expanded the years by 8 thousand. Like taking a picture of a ball bouncing upwards and saying"look how high up it's going, it'll go up forever"

>>134311300
so you pray to jews?

>>134307740
That's a reflection of the cabin of whatever ship took the picture, whether it is a progress, soyuz or space shuttle.

Plus it is Mir, so it is an old picture.

If my ID has a word in it, it will snow in Florida this year as the ultimate fuck you to global warming theories.

>>134309999
logic as sounds as your climate science

if your having trouble killing yourself just ask one of your friendly new refugees I'm sure they'll oblige and then you can be one of their 72 virgins in heaven.

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>>134308528
>>134308834
That's not a person.

>>134311068
Indoctrinated from the 2 or 3 class by green country governments mostly. In Germany they try to get cars banned because they think e-cars drive without emissions. Yes they are that stupid.

They're actually trying to ruin their own industry for an unproven politicla instrumentalized lie. Europe needs a Trump.

>>134309669
>hanging a model from a mic boom
how stupid are you?

>>134310482
Bill Nye says that the african average carbon footprint is minuscule compared to the white man. pol BTFO once again.

>>134311714
you need a trump simply for the muslims

>>134311683
>>134311499

Its also not Earth.

Last I checked we have land.

>>134302333
It makes sense to deny it if it gets you the $$$.

>>134310836
>not environmentally sealing electronics
>not using air filters
>not having environmental control
It is almost as if a few crumbs here and there literally don't matter unless you spill the whole bag.

>>134311772
what scientific study does he have to back up this claim?

>>134311360
so what are you demanding now?
And what even is your argument?
and what the hell do you mean with "wavelength"?

I already told you that the current warming has nothing to do with the glacial cycle.
Here is a graphic showing what CO2 and CH4 did during the 4 previous interglacials.
The Holocene (red) departs as early as 5,000 years ago from the common downward trend (at the same time as agriculture spread) and is now WELL outside the natural range. And temperature slowly follows it as I also showed

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>>134311901

>>134311901
You still didn't answer my question. what was the earth's original state and we have to get back to?

There's a pretty nice solution to global warming with Liquid Fluoride Thorium Reactors.

>>134301654

>>134311172
Pepperridge farm remembers. I remember the Soviet Union. I remember Germany being two countries.

>>134311360
That 'going up and down' is due to milankovitch cycles of which we are currently in the middle of a cooling period and should only expect to see natural warming due to the sun at around 11 600 AD

Instead of contesting the well established science of global warming, why not contest the left wing (((solutions))) instead?

We need to invest in nuclear energy and high density electricity storage, otherwise we're enslaved by the oil Jews.
We also have to be harder on the third world as they're the ones polluting the most and have skyrocketing populations.

Global warming is our biggest threat not only for the ecological damage, but because of the billions of climate refugees it will create.
Europe will be prime real estate for agriculture while everything south of the Mediterranean will be a wasteland, driving hundreds of millions of niggers north.

>>134311772
When we burn energy to create resources that they consume is this added to our co2 tally or theirs?

>>134311994
Just needs to be conducive to human survival (and thus also the survival of many ecosystems)

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IF the JEWS & NIGGERS are going to exterminate the white race, then lets burn this fucking planet to the ground.

WHY WOULD WE GIVE A FUCK TO LEAVE A NICE PLANET FOR THE FUCKING PERVERTED JEWS AND NIGGERS? KILL IT BABY JUST FUCKING KILL IT

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Fake as fuck

remember this?
Twenty-Five Years Since The Ozone Hole Killed Us All
DDT, Global Cooling, China Syndrome, Ozone Hole, Global Warming, Climate Change – the left moves seamlessly from one world ending snake oil scam to another. In 1992 they blamed the ozone hole on President Bush, and said it was going to kill us all.

https://realclimatescience.com/2017/07/twenty-five-years-since-the-ozone-hole-killed-us-all/

KILL ALL THE TERMITES THEY'RE DESTROYING THE PLANET

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>>134312151
As a Swede you need to shut the fuck up and cure your autism before spreading your (((ideas))) on the internet.

>>134312151
biggest problem is the largest lithium mine is in china. I would love to convert to full solar but until first solar series 6 comes out we're basically fucked on inefficient panels and enough battery for 30% of the world's use

trump needs to legalize the mining of the moon

>>134305225
(((satellite data correction)))

>>134312314
>what are shadow blisters or light blurs
>what is lighting gradients
>what are window reflections

>>134302333
Why Global Warming IS False

1) Incorrect Solar Forcings in IPCC Models
2) Non-inclusion of human-caused CO2 respiration in climate models
3) Emails from IPCC scientists
4) Cult-Science with exaggerated "victimhood"
5) What is the R2 value of the trendlines used by IPCC
6) Truth does not fear investigation. Someone who is confident in their conclusions is happy to provide the evidence to support them. Someone who is not confident will make non-science arguments to try to convince you to believe, ie, "muh consensus"

Global Warming is leftard horseshit. End of discussion.

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>>134308025
I'm assuming it's an image taken from a soyuz capsule prior to or after docking with the iss. (explaining the reflections)

>>134312454
If they don't have cameras onboard the ISS capable of taking a photo then why do they have fucking live streams how do you square up those two facts psycho.

>>134302333
Good. Fuck this gay earth and fuck you too.

Brb gonna spray an aresol can up at the ozone layer.

>>134311772
>Bill Nye says
hahahah

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>>134312151
Not imposing a carbon tax is essentially subsidising polluters though.

Typically, firms that produce harmful waste typically have to pay the cost of correctly handling this waste and paying out damages or better yet, develop less harmful methods of production.

In the energy industry however polluting firms don't have to bear the cost of their waste and companies that develop technology which vastly reduces waste aren't rewarded. In this case it is the government who is effectively paying for the waste management bill of polluters by accepting the future costs of climate change.

>>134312544
not defending the other poster but if you want a picture of the full ISS, using a camera mounted to the ISS isint the best way to do it. Taking the photo from a vehicle on course to dock with the ISS would be a great place to get said photo from.

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>>134312588
>bill nye
https://youtu.be/VRhgdVrj6kY

>>134312672
You ever touched the Dome ?

>>134312568
Actually that can help slow global warming, more aerosols in the air reflects more sunlight, lowering temperatures.

One of the crazy plans to "stop" global warming is to dump huge amounts of sulfur aerosols in the atmosphere to reduce the amount of sunlight the ground and lower atmosphere receives.

>>134307216
Hey retard, what do you get when you run data through mathematical formulas??? A fucking model, jackass

>>134312790
so are you saying that everyone saying its a syiouz pod and mir are lying ?

I live in the southern US
temperatures in mid July usually range from 95 to 99 past few weeks this year have been 77 to 88
although fake weather will tell you the "realfeel" is 102 to109

>>134302333
Europeans, America doesn't take you seriously when 90% of your news is government propaganda. The government has such a tight grip of the media balls they don't even have conservative news anymore

>>134312459
> Incorrect Solar Forcings in IPCC Models
Then why are they correct?

>Non-inclusion of human-caused CO2 respiration in climate models
CO2 isn't projected by stoichiometry, its just predicted by extrapolating current trends

>Emails from IPCC scientists
Plenty of investigations which found no wrong doing that you can read online if you want

>What is the R2 value of the trendlines used by IPCC
Not sure thats a good way to asses this. Projections are made up by many modelled trendlines.

>>134312891
>I'm too retarded to understand what heat index is and how humidity changes our perception of temperature

>>134312544
>>134312672
Its a photo of Mir, not ISS you retards.

The photo was taken either from the space shuttle or more likely a Soyuz or Progress spacecraft.

Learn photography and how visual artifacts occur in the real world.

>>134312742
So CFCs are now not the cause of global warming? Jesus these faggots can't even keep their story straight.

>>134306637
Basically this.

>>134302333
>and mankind is to blame.
stopped reading

>>134307700
Thorium. Thank you. I can't get anybody to pay attention to it. China and india are working on their own reactors and if yhey get it first they control the new energy revolution.

US power companies and the MIC are suiciding the us for power and money.

>>134313324
CFC's cause ozone depletion, not global warming

>>134313324
CFCs are a greenhouse gas, but a lot of sprays have other aerosols in them as well.
So it probably evens out if your using CFC sprays.

>>134302333
(((Dr. Zeke Hausfather)))

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>>134313229
INCORRECT

This Is Mir.

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>>134313382
CFCs are also greenhouse gases (albeit pretty weak ones)

>>134307137
their computer models are the formula

complex systems like a planet don't easily reduce to a simple formula

they won't open the source code for the models though
or the starting data they feed them.

>>134313096
realfeel. 22 degrees hotter? I've worked outside most of my life and have been enjoying this cool weather, but the weather channel would have you believe it is unbearable.

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>>134302333
>>134305225
>Global Cooling

kek

HAARP.

Look it up.

It's no coincidence that global warming is not being caused by pollution, but instead by high-pressure heat pockets which HAARP creates

>>134307814
Just that he's autistic i think.

>>134307266
>basic science
>never made a models for extrapolating global temperature from atmospheric chemistry that didn't vastly over estimate future warming

>>134309669
I could think of 2 easy ways to take photos.

Astronauts/Cosmonauts on the station.

Satellites orbiting earth.

Fucking hell.

>>134313796
but black science man says the reason nasa has to photoshop is because the cameras don't work in space.

Besides how did they call the President on a Landline before sat phones ?

>>134306637
This. Its especially ironic as satellite data is popular among climatologists as it is not subject to any earth-based biases which might conceivably require data-manipulation.

>>134302333
need link to article and their "correction data"

I'm willing to bet money that it isn't based upon raw data and has been manipulated.

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>>134313733
I know you haven't looked at every single model

>>134313518
the more you know

>140% faster global warming

Weren't we supposed to be underwater by now? Didn't Al Gore make some doomsday prediction back in 2007?

So, we're definitely going to the see the world end THIS time, right?

Even if you bought it hook, line, and sinker you'd still have to prove there's anything that can actually be done about it. Imagine your home is flooding and someone says they can slow the inflow by 10% in exchange for 10% of your net worth. No one would take that deal. Your house is still fucked.

Climate change is real and the solution is to make it impossible to manufacture anything in white countries
How bout lefties just kill themselves

>>134313917
Are you kidding me? It has by far the most associated error. Orbital decay and drift are difficult to adjust for and require by far the most correction.

Satellite records have quite significant disagreement largely for this reason whereas surface based series have far greater agreement and require comparatively little correction.

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>>134313917
you got it backwards:
the terrestrial temperature record is favored by climatologists, while satellite data has to be taken with a grain of salt.
You also got it completely the wrong way on the point of biases:
terrestrial temperature stations are subject to only extremely minor influences, while the satellite record has to be corrected for not only foreign microwave emissions from clouds and other layers of the atmosphere, but also changing LECT due to orbital decay.

And you can see that in the datasets themselves:
The terrestrial temperature monitoring bodies give essentially identical trends, while the two satellite data sets give trends that diverge quite significantly

>>134313942
Even being disingenuous by showing graphs that end in 2010 with less than a decade of extrapolation, you still demonstrate that the only one that they were able to correctly predict the amplitude of the change was sea level.

>>134314295
Don't talk to right wing normiea. They don't want to understand. For them it is "satellites good" because "ya know space and shit" and "19th century tech thermometers bad" because you know "thermometers can't be trusted, alcohol mixtures expand differently on Earth depending on how liberal the environment is". Also, sea temperatures cannot be measured because water bouys exist in Baywatch and that is fiction.

>>134313937
Dude, what do you mean it isn't based on "raw data"? You mean they used fictual satellite data and no one tried to check it?

The whole point is the study suggests a new extraction of viable data from raw data. Getting accurate temp measures from satellite data is very much fucked up... unfortunately. You need to account for a lot of things.

>>134302333
Oh no!.
Its not like they use the very same satellite to watch you jerk off

>>134313382
CFCs and HCFCs are the most potent greenhouse gases we know of.

>>134314397
>Even being disingenuous by showing graphs that end in 2010 with less than a decade of extrapolation
Your going to have to point out one I can't see it.

Of the ones ending in 2010 two projections stretch back to 75 and 81 and the other 90

>you still demonstrate that the only one that they were able to correctly predict the amplitude of the change was sea level
You think success is results being as far out from the centre of a CI as possible? As long as it falls within the 95% CI then it (as per standards for all science outside of physics) is a correct prediction.

>>134314708
Climatologists don't use temperature data from before the 1960s because it interferes with the narrrative. If they want older data, they find a way to sample it today so that they can (((correct))) it.

>>134302333
>(((Data correction)))

Doesn't get any more Jewish than this.

>>134314954
>Dude, what do you mean it isn't based on "raw data"?
Didn't say it wasn't. Said I'd be willing to bet.
>You mean they used fictual satellite data and no one tried to check it?
I'm saying they probably "normalized" it until it fit their narrative.
>The whole point is the study suggests a new extraction of viable data from raw data.
Why isn't the raw data good enough on its own? Why does data need to be extracted? Why can't it be displayed and allow everyone to draw their conclusions.
>. Getting accurate temp measures from satellite data is very much fucked up... unfortunately. You need to account for a lot of things.
Sounds like you're creating room for "interpretation" which has caused many debates and scandals on climate change as a whole.

>>134315075
you're right, I should have said "their overall effect is pretty" weak, not that they're weak greenhouse gases.

iirc Veerabhadran Ramanathan even described them as "super-greenhouse gases"

>>134315091
Oh man, you hear that guys? He got a p value less than 0.05! Quick, destroy all your cars and pay 80% taxes to subsidize gay islam!

Fuck you, retard. If you said the temperature was going to go up 1.1+/-0.9 degrees and it went up .3, no, you don't get to say "see I told you so, now pay for my bazillian solar panel scam"

>>134302333
Which threat will wipe out the white race sooner:

>jews
or
>global warming

Choose wisely

>>134305225
((((((140%))))) Well, we are doomed now, no way to fix a crazy increase like that. This climate change bullshit has been exposed already as a way to try and tax us even more.

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>>134302333

OP rolls 333 confirmed.

>>134302333
>(((correction)))

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>>134302333
not seeing it

>>134302333
>140%
>t. butin X--DDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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>>134313937

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Remember 10 years ago when all the global warming deniers were claiming that warming had "stopped".

No longer.

>>134302333
Oh, well I guess I better stop flying around in my expensive Hollywood-funded private jet!

>>134316032
this is so stupid
anyone who knows anything about remote sensing is aware of the necessity and importance of adjustments

even something as simple as a image of the Earth's surface in the visible spectrum has to undergo a series of corrections

>>134316259
Yeah it's real important to hide the truth from the people, cause they'd be pretty mad otherwise

>>134315341
>Sounds like you're creating room for "interpretation" which has caused many debates and scandals on climate change as a whole.
No, I am saying a satellite isn't a thermometer. It is a way to constantly measure certain parameters from space... regardless of cloud cover, atmospheric drag, sun and radiation interference. The raw data tells you jack shit. It tells you that the satellite flew over clean skies, then clouds, etc. at different times of a day with a timestamp... sometimes influenced by radiation, sometimes not, sometimes with the sun in its back, sometimes not. You need to look at every fucking single measurement on its own and then determine whether the timestamp and coordinates means you were actually where you wanted to be at the height above the surface you were supposed to be.

>>134316259
>this is so stupid
no. it is funny, because it is true.
everyone except you can see it.
who stupid now?

>>134310149
>you are ignorant for questioning the gospel of climate change
No, I am just doing good science. When your beliefs in this topic mirror some people's religious beliefs, perhaps it is time to take a step back and reevaluate what you believe.

Typical of your types to forsake religion simply to take up science as your new god.

>>134302333

Earth has been warming and cooling long before humans were around. Ever hear about Milankovitch cycles?

Do you have any proof that rising atmospheric carbon is caused by humans? Chicken and egg scenario with warming and carbon release from oceans (our largest carbon reservoir). What makes you think humans could release enough emissions to affect that natural cycle?

Climatefags point out the earth is warming and cheer that we're responsible but never establish causation. Or scream about CO2 levels from humans but don't link rising ocean temperature to that natural cycle, blaming all carbon on human activity.

>>134316351
so when geographers make adjustment to a satellite image to remove atmospheric effects like haze to get a clear view of what they're trying to get at - will you stand there and accuse them of a grand conspiracy to hide the truth from the public?

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>>134302333

>>134302333
>sceptics
skeptics*

>>134316859
Cartographers don't have a narrative, and the entire point is to try to make an image which either is pretty or conveys useful information. They do not say, "this is what earth actually looks like from space"

>>134316859
So when scientist do an artificial coloring on space objects, are you one to believe that is their true color?
You treat these geologist like priest. You know they can make mistakes too.

>>134316710
completely ignoring what we already know is not what I would consider "good science"

>>134306967
but have you considered how racist the data was before the corrections?

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>>134313685
Global cooling is real. (Earth gets warmer)
Aaa.. i mean global warming is real (Earth gets colder)

Aa... eehh... ohh... what i meant to say is climate change yea. (cold, warm, dry, wet, winds, no winds...) yea everything proves climate change is real. See? I told you so goy.

And one more thing. Say climate change isnt real and we just might fine, jail, kill you.

>>134302333
Yes it's real, no mankind is not to blame for it.
It's part of a natural cycle older than the first primates, and we're currently in the warming phase.
If you look at temperature charts in a human timescale, all the fear makes sense even if the figures are miscalculated.
If you look at this in a geological timescale, you'll see even the Romans had it hotter than we are projected to have it.

>>134316259
So what makes you trust the scientist that says
>It is an accurate representation
Versus the ones that say it isn't? Seems to me you are picking and choosing what you consider fact based off your personal view of the scientist in question.

Your are an ideologue who has no place in science. Please never enter the field.

Elevation is a math datum.. the theoretical datum changes often.. always up, never down

>>134317131
>what we know
You don't even know what is considered scientific fact, and that is the source of your issue. Climate change is not a done deal, and anyone who insist that a field of science can not be questioned is completely ignorant of how science works.

If you are one to shame people who someone's science, you have no place in this discussion. You are not a scientist.

>>134302333
RRRRROOOOOMMMAAAAAAAAAGGGGGUUUUUUUSSSSHHHHHHH!!!!!!

fuck off liar.

No one is buying the anthropogenic CO2 causing global warming meme anymore. Go peddle your lies to an ignorant ((((((academic)))))))).

>>134317338
because the side that says the end-Permian and TJB events were caused by the respectively volcanic phases is the overwhelming preponderance of the scientific literature
same with the literature that says that CO2 is of crucial importance for all of Earth history.

To pick and present one or two of the fringe outliers, that really would be an ideological bastardization, wouldn't it?

>>134316414
You don't know how satellites work and shouldn't comment on them.
Satellites measure radiances in various wavelength bands, which must then be mathematically inverted to obtain indirect inferences of temperature.
You can release this raw data to the public which would allow 3rd parties to interpret the data.
They're much more useful at showing CO2 and other greenhouse gases accumulating in the atmosphere, and it's already been proven that CO2 does not increase temperature substantially, and are also caused by raising temperatures, not the other way around.

hate to break it to you but heat comes from the sun. believe it or not solar activity is the only thing proven to affect temps on earth.

This is your threadly reminder that in the 70s all scientists had a consensus that the world was COOLING and we would be in deep freeze by 2000, with Scandinavia and Russia largely uninhabitable

Reminder that in the 90s Al Gore and other scientists were convinced and had a consensus that by 2010 Venice would be underwater, the Netherlands would no longer exist because of flooding, and that there would be no polar ice at all, let alone ice caps

also a reminder that when ice melts into water it does not raise the level of the water

>>134317719
> climate 'science'
> well known confirmation bias
> well known ideologues
> some data record doesn't conform, has hiatus
> surprisingly comes up with corrections of earlier record
> fits propaganda narrative now
> everything in oeder again
t. despicable
seems legit

>>134302333
Is this another case of editing the results to fit the theory? These climate change (((scientists))) have already done that in the past so I would not be surprised if they tried it again.

>>134318239
Clearly Al Gore underestimated the kanker

>>134317719
And those same sources say that we were in a cooling event in the 1800s because of those same systems. Our ability to accurately measure temperature came about AFTER this cooling event.

In fact, our real temperature measurements start out at the tail end of said cooling event, and those data points are used to argue for climate change.

Yet those charts NEVER acknowledge the existence of a cooling event in the 1800s. Wanna know why? Because it undermines their entire theory. Those scientist failed to take into account the human error influence, and it shows in their work.

Go take a class on statistics and error propagation, and then maybe can join the conversation beyond copy pasting the same flawed arguments and graphs over and over. Your ignorance prevents you from accepting that perhaps what your professors taught you wasn't exactly correct.

Here's a tip: if the professor doesn't explain every caveat of a theory, they shouldn't be teaching it. This is one of the main reasons our education has taken such a dive in the last few decades. Because of people like them, and ignorant people like you. All your types are just looking for some way to elevate themselves above the rest of the population, by any means necessary.

You are just as dumb as the rest of the population, buddy. You aren't special.

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/pol/tards only believe what orange ape is shitposting

http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/#list-warming

pic related: a tiny fraction of degree

>>134318239
>also a reminder that when ice melts into water it does not raise the level of the water
It does if that ice was previously on land. Remember that Antarctica isn't just a big block of ice, there's actual land under there.

>>134313511
Neither of them are photos fucktards

>>134318771
LIES, there's no land there but a hole leading to the middle of the earth.

>>134318335
>Is this another case of editing the results to fit the theory?
No, it is the other way around. There was a mystery until recently why the satellite data did not correlate with the surface and buoys measurements. All scientists said that the satellite data was likely influenced by too many factors, so was no good. Since satellite measurements started in the late 1970s, scientists have tried to make sense of the old data. The good news is that the new methods used on satellites for the last 15 years or so works well. The new study just makes the corrections to adjust the old faulty data which wasn't correct.

They could have likewise just discarded the temperature readings and just go with the newest ones. But scientists are persistent and don't want to do that.

>>134302333
>140% faster
Than what? Then thier previously faulty models predicted?

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This summer has been a complete SHIT. It's rainy and cold all the time.

I HAVE YET TO GO TO BEACH AND I LIVE NEXT TO IT
>MUH GLOBUL VUMINGS

>>134302333
>Mankind is to blame

West is to blame. You created wealth by liquidating everything.

I dindu nuffin!

>>134319348
>Then the previous methods to extract information from the raw data showed?
Yes

>>134319250
>15 years worth of climate data
>6 billion year old planet
Wtf I love wealth redistribution now!

>>134319250
circular reasoning
>ideology driven amateur hour

Why debate about it?
It's done.
Mankind could end yesterday, and we'd still observe catastrophic climate change a 100 years down the line.
UN needs to get its head over it and plan for the change, instead of guilting people for it.

>>134319493
>moving the goalposts this far
>literally changing my question to fit your narrative

The cost of energy is high right now so the use of energy can be controlled by economic means. However the cost of energy is going to go to zero and truly alternative energy has been suppressed since Tesla.

What to do?

Put the control not on the procurement of energy but the use of it. Call it carbon tax credits and decouple the control from the energy supply mechanism. Control the slave forever. He literally breathes out carbon.

Global warming is a scheme to control you forever.

>>134308262
>CO2) has played an absolutely crucial role in these warm periods
No, there has been no proven causation, only correlation. Inb4 "muh greenhouse effect" it's been shown that the math behind the numbers supporting that as a cause is bogus as fuck. It's logarithmic, which the fucktard "climate scientists" didn't take into account or ignored.

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>>134318555
your main point about the 1800 cooling event is moot for two big reasons
- climatologists DO look at the 1800s. Berkeley Earth for example has a time series with data points going back to 1750.
The PAGES2K consortium which do global temperature reconstruction of the last 2,000 years say that their results show "generally cold conditions between 1580 and 1880", but they are unable to detect a globally synchronous event that would define a "little ice age".
So if you would just actually take a look, you would see that climatologists have been talking about this for decades now (same with the Permian and Triassic) and their extensive documentation is freely available to anyone who cared to look it up

- the entire argument is pointless because that's not how the climate works anyway. Temperatures don't just go up because it was colder in the 1800s. As I pointed out at the very beginning: climate has to be actually driven by a forcing. It's completely irrelevant if the warming were to take place after a warm period or after a cold period - the radiative effects of CO2 remain the same regardless.

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>>134302333
>140% faster
>Than what? Then thier previously faulty models predicted?

The globes warming any which way, were just now coming out of the last ice age and theres still permafreeze on the ground..

>>134319628
>changing the answer to suit the question
Climate science in a nutshell. Not good scientific discipline.

>>134319686
>climate has to be actually driven by a forcing
sattelites can smell your bs from space

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It's like earth climate changes all the time or something.

>remember when we ruined ice age 10k years ago by causing massive global warming with our industrial revolution? Me neither.

People are gonna debate wether global warming is human made even when malaria reaches Europe and US.
We're screwed. Get over it.

>>134302333
Hey OP, climate change is not real. Wake up sheep! Also, the Earth is flat and vaccines are bad for you, and the British royal family are reptilians. Alex Jones for president!! Praise KEK! SHADILAY!! MAGA!!! MAGA!!!!!!

>>134302333
Disproven alarmist bullshit.

http://archive.is/sblJt

>>134319686
Temperature has been going up because of that cooling event. How the hell is that irrelevant to topics of fucking climate change?
How do you rationalize the mass amount of errors in our historical temperature data? Seriously go take some fucking statistics classes.
>radiative effects of CO2
Or maybe just go take any science class, as you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. You do realize water vapor has a lot more of these "radiative effects" than co2 ever will? It is one of the reasons life fucking exist.

Fucking parroting retards like you can't manage a single independent thought, yet think you can actually debate things in science. All you are doing is repeating the observations of others. Try to form your own opinion for once, instead of striving to find and believe what is "correct via consensus".

Anyone here redpilled about methane Hydrates?
Lol this doesn't look good.

>>134320504
Methane is one of the most common reoccurring organics. Being scared of them is like being afraid of hydrogen because of the naming of the "hydrogen bomb".

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>>134320165
>People are gonna debate wether global warming is human made even when malaria reaches Europe and US.

Theres a difference between malaria-ridden people coming over and the mosquitoes spreading on their own

>>134320504
>Anyone here redpilled about methane Hydrates?
>Lol this doesn't look good.

They're unlikely to just suddenly to get released all at once

If there have been warmer periods before with more acidic oceans then it shouldn't habben now either

>>134320647
Haha, you most likely don't know what I'm talking about.
I don't blame you, though.
Most of the research is out there but overwhelmed by big oil planing to tap it safely somehow.

>>134320479
as I said - the climate doesn't warm because it was cold earlier.
I guess if I were to ask you what caused the 1800s cold period, you were to say that was warm before that.
That may sound reasonable to internet mouth-breathers, but it doesn't cut any edge in science and gets us no closer to actually understanding how the climate system works.

It seems like a distraction from global poisoning. We can live on a warmer Earth, but eating drinking and breathing poison will be hell. The business culture of disposable and made-to-not-last products need to be defeated.

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>>134320859
try to understand an argument. for once.

>>134320843
>Haha, you most likely don't know what I'm talking about.
So instead of showing everyone that I am wrong by posting the correct stuff, you go and ridicule me.

Such good science you do. Can't believe I never saw it this way before. Wow.

>>134321132
what did I miss?

>>134320824
It's unstable as fuck.
Even the ocean level rising is a threat, because of pressure. temperature isn't the only factor.

>>134302333
>Climate Change YES!!!!!
Nice use of NLP there you fucking kike shill