We can all agree that she deserves to be executed, right?

>>134287595
That the girl that talked her 'boyfriend' in to killing himself?

Telling him he's a pussy if he doesn't pull through with it?

In that case yes.

>>134287595

>say kys
>go to jail

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>>134287721
Is it really that simple? Did she just say kys and that got her in trouble ?
If so then the system in burgerland is fucked up

>>134287595
>>134285030

>>134287595

Telling him to kill himself is fine.
Using his death to make yourself rich after you told him to kill himself isn't.

>>134288848
it was a little worse than that. It wast like she said kys and moved on she methodically coaxed him into it over weeks/months. shes one messed up cunt for sure.

>>134288848
No, she encouraged him pretty hard. It wasn't like she said "kill yourself" and left it at that. She pushed him to go through with it even when he expressed apprehension.

>>134288848
No, she would regularly remind him he had to do it, would ask if he was going to finally do it, and when he got out of the running car she told him to go back in

>>134287595
Absolutely.
By the way what did she do?

Lets look at the facts of the case. Guy was an adult, she was 16, she was on anti depressants. For some reason this adult keeps talking to this 16 year old about how much he wants to kill himself. He has tried to do it multiple times before on his own. The girl keeps telling him he needs help. He won't listen. He keeps talking to this underage girl on anti depressants about his problems for some reason, which no reasonable adult would do. Eventually he convinces her that the best thing for him is to die because he can't be happy. She then starts showing full support for his decision even though she originally told him to get help. When he finally goes through with killing himself like he had been talking about for months, he gets out at the last moment, and she tells him to get back in.
That is the normal response to someone backing out at the last moment of something they had been talking about doing for months. Sometimes people have last minute wishy washy feelings, even though they know what they're doing is what they really want to do,

TLDR: He always wanted to kill himself, and did it. She did nothing wrong and was always doing what she thought was best for him, whether it be trying to get him to get help, or showing support for his decision to kill himself.

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>>134287595
irony is i was in a similar situation when a girl that left me had me on a very weak spot and took advantage of it.
it's as if she wanted a personal sacrifice for herself. Some sort of demonic, vampiric pleasure.
Murderous without consequence.

I was so sensitive and subdue that i was even fantasizing of me being with her and other males beign with her. Like a matriarchat with a female and multiple males.
I was very sick. ill. Insane.
And she pressured me into suicide without saying it. very subtle playing me.

At the end of the day I surived but it took me like a daceda or something to get away with the pain.

Today, it's hard for me to say if this girl is guilty or not. Maybe Alexander the Great saying "the strongest" is a good quote.

The weak will die.

In a way I think this girl was weak for pushing a weak male into suicide.
But her weakness isn't a crime.

Actual kill is crime. To actually push the trigger, is a murder. Not persuasion.

The Joker said "what doesn't kill me makes me... stranger."

The boy died. He was weak. Nature washed him away.

I say this with resentment.

>>134287595
>a guy kill himself because of a girl
>wondering, if something of value has been lost

>>134289519
Adult as in 18 and her classmate or is it a random adult male who randomly started talking weirdly about suicide to a random 16 year old girl?

>She did nothing wrong
I totally disagree that she did something wrong. It's obvious she did something wrong, but having been on antidepressants before I know they can lead to psychotic or non emotional feelings and perceptions of reality so I feel bad she chose to coax him into getting back into the car. I think that may be what happened here.

>>134288848

She coaxed him for months and then when he did it, she acted shocked and traumatized to get sympathy and donations.

I would put her in jail for three years without chance of parole and be done with it.

The guy was a faggot but she took shitposting too far. Both are/were terrible people

>>134288848
No. Read the chat logs.

>>134287595
Kill yourself

>>134289519
This.

>>134291484
And there it is.

>>134291484
This

Always good advice.

>>134287595

She looks like a Stranger Things character. They should cast her in.

>>134288933
huh?

>>134289198
>boyfriend was suicidal
>spends months getting him to work up the courage
>he finally decided he's going to do it (after some encouraging)
>he pussies out halfway through and turns to her for help
>she tells him to go back into the running car in his garage
>he isn't sure but she coaxes him enough and he eventually does go back
>finally kills himself

>>134287595

Nah.. She's not responsible for some idiot killing himself.

No matter how you look at it, a suicide is a suicide. You have no obligation to help someone who wants to end their life. Just let them do it and be done nagging on everyone else.

Fuck all you suicidal cunts.

>>134287595
>be the ultimate beta
>gf tells you to kys
>you do it after a few times because to beta to kys
Natural selection, she did a good job getting rid of him from the gene pool

>deserves to be executed
NO wtf
she did humanity a favor by culling her weakling bf so he wouldn't annoy anymore upright citizens
>wah baby i wanna kill myself but im too pussy to do it
fuck

>>134291108
>Adult as in 18 and her classmate

18 and a family friend. They grew up together.

>>134287595
No.

>>134291898
>You have no obligation to help someone who wants to end their life.

That's not the question at hand nor does it fit the facts of the case.

The question is: does cajoling and browbeating someone over an extended period of time, including after they have already had a change of heart in the middle of an attempt, make one culpable in a suicide?

According to the court the answer is yes.

She should be in prison. Don't care if she has a pussy or looks like Cara.

>>134287595
He was a fucking weak little birch. He chose to kill himself. No one forced him to do it

>>134287595
She's a monster physically and mentally.

Needs be hung on the families lawn for all to see.

>>134292125
At multiple points he wanted to back out but this bitch kept pushing him.
Guilty as fuck.

someone photoshop this girl putting her pussy bf in a headlock with the caption "the weak should fear the strong"

>>134289519
>Lets look at the facts of the case
If you were actually a lawyer or a judge and looking at the material facts of the case, the case is open and closed and she is guilty of manslaughter.

It's the rhetorical argument of "he wanted to do it anyway" that will save her from a long sentence (she will still be convicted) and the quality of her legal representation will likely determine the severity of her punishment.

>t. lawfag

Only in America

Poor Fag Justice

The attorney for Michelle Carter said Monday he is unsure whether she will appeal her involuntary manslaughter conviction in the suicide of Conrad Roy III.

>>134287595
Roasties sit on the chair and get toasty

>>134292252
If you're a MAN you don't let some bitch sway you to go as far as kill yourself. No matter what. The guy was human garbage that needed to be removed from the gene pool. He probably wouldn't have reproduced, but at least now he's not wasting anybody else's time or resources

>>134287595
She did nothing wrong, in the end the boyfriend chose to kill himself no matter what in the end you are liable for your own life.

She deserves no more than 5 years in prison with another 5 or so probation

From the videos and testimony she seems very apologetic already. Everyone does stupid shit when they're young.

10 years, she will be out in 7

>>134291791
Then turn around and play the part of a grieving widow and hold a fundraiser to get rich off

And you are a serious cuck if you think that what she did wasn't that evil

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>/pol/ white knighting this hard
I'm disappointed but not suprised.
>>134292309
/thread

>>134292289
This.

Shit Country

No Trail by Jury and she has no desire to appeal. Really?

>>134292289
Also the people saying she will get the harshest possible sentence for involuntary manslaughter in the US (like 20 years or something) are just as dumb as the people saying she will be acquitted

If she gets jail time it will likely be anywhere from 5 to 8 years with the possibility of parole after 1 to 3 -- she may even receive a suspended sentence... in my opinion the most likely scenario is a small suspended prison sentence coupled with a few years probation, some counselling, and maybe some community service oriented towards mental health

All of that said she will still definitely be convicted and she will have voluntary manslaughter on her record for the rest of her life.

>>134288848
He was sitting in the garage running his car to die by carbon monoxide poisoning, got out and told her he was having second thoughts, and she told him to get back in. On top of pushing him to it in the first place.

>>134292525
involuntary manslaughter**

>>134292559
No one forced him into the car the first time or the second time.

>>134292522
>No Trail by Jury and she has no desire to appeal. Really?

One has a choice in a bench or jury trial. If her counsel was at all competent they advised her to take a bench trial because a jury would have deliberated for about five minutes before finding her guilty. At least with a bench trial she had a chance.

She would probably lose on appeal anyway.

>>134292648
How stupid are you?

>>134292121
isnt she technically a minor though?

>>134292621
I see your point but what about people who run scams that involve people voluntarily giving up money under false or mislead pretenses? The scammer is held liable correct?

This is similar except with suicide. However I think she should get a light sentence.

>>134292771

that analogy differs quite a bit from what actually happened but i see your point

>>134292717
>How stupid are you?

The question is how fucking stupid are you?

Do you really think a jury is going to be sympathetic to her? A jury that is, after jury selection, likely to be made up of parents who would see the defendant as someone capable of having a hand in the suicide of their own child?

Are you fucking retarded or are you just ignorant?

>>134292968
I think you have spent too much time sucking your cousins dick

So the Judge has repeatedly ruled against her and yet she decides to waive her trial by Jury and now she wants to waive her right to Appeal.

I wonder if the Pro Bono lawyer works this hard on paying clients.

Just goes to show you it pays to be a relative of the Prosecutor.

Go Kill Yourself
The World will be a better place

>>134293231
>So the Judge has repeatedly ruled against her

Yes. A jury would have came to the same conclusion but more quickly. Against the bench her counsel at least had the chance.

>and yet she decides to waive her trial by Jury

Her counsel likely advised her to for the above reason.

> and now she wants to waive her right to Appeal.

Because she's likely to lose. Because an appeal goes to the appellate court which only questions issues of procedural law not the facts of the case and is presided over by a panel of judges.

At least take a fucking high school level civics class you dunce.

>>134293506
Seriously, Go Kill Yourself

You Won't be missed.

Is what she did morally wrong?: Yes

Should what she did be legally wrong?: No, except for the profiteering part

Guys at the end of the day, he could have easily put down the phone and got out of his car. No one shoved him in the truck and made him kill himself, he did it on his own volition. Sure it may of seemed that he was ify about it on the text messages, but that's what most suicidal people's thoughts are like before they kill themselves. There's a slippery slope and this will most likely bring some internet censorship down on our Massachusetts friends.

>>134293664

So are you retarded or ignorant?

>>134293664
>being this mad
>over his imaginary waifu
you dont even know her anon please calm down

>>134290632
kys

>>134293756
WTF

In every suicide case you can find someone to blame.

In this case the Dad liked to use his fist and the police repeated came the house and did nothing. Now the Dad is set for a nice payday.

>>134293804
Are you still here, I told you to go kill yourself

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>>134287595

We are next, you fucking retard. Did you think a (((judge))) invented "cyber murder" because she cares about depressed pussies? It's part of a coordinated effort to outlaw freedom of speech. When the cops kick down your door for committing "cyber murder" on 4chan, remember. You asked for it.

>>134293911

Which is it? Retardation or gross ignorance about how the courts work?

>>134293873
So? If someone is suicidal, they will kill themselves and no one can stop that. Anything or anyone can trigger a suicidal person to fucking snap.

Does this mean that since you caught some maniac on a bad day and told them to kill themselves that you should be accountable for what they do with their bodies? The answer is no.

>>134294076
Go Kill yourself Loser

>>134294153

Please, for the sake of yourself go get an education so you can at least not make yourself look like an ignorant cunt going forward.

>>134294255
Go Kill Yourself, Your Life is Shit

>>134293756
This is the rhetorical argument that will win her a lesser sentence but it is not enough to win her an acquittal.

Everything she did can and will be considered to have been encouragement to commit suicide. This is a contentious issue but what isn't contentious is "providing [someone] with the means to commit suicide" which is not only limited to supplying the device or method of suicide but also the instruction of exactly how to do so (this is how they got Kavorkian and other doctors who engage in doctor assisted suicide). This is what will ultimately lead to her conviction. The nail in the coffin is the following text:

>Yeah, it will work. If you emit 3200 ppm of it for five or ten minutes you will die within a half hour. You lose consciousness with no pain. You just fall asleep and die. You can also just take a hose and run that from the exhaust pipe to the rear window in your car and seal it with duct tape and shirts, so it can't escape. You will die within, like, 20 or 30 minutes pain free.

You can read the entire transcript here: https://www.scribd.com/doc/276206526/Michelle-Carter-Texts

She also repeatedly told him where and when to do it, she employed extremely manipulative tactics to keep him from speaking to his family about his acute suicidal thoughts (ostensibly to prevent them from being able to prevent his death) and also routinely made him feel guilty for not committing suicide.

It is a nuanced case and she was a minor at the time that this took place but anyone who thinks she is going to get off the hook free and easy is out of their mind. She will not get 20 years but she will certainly be convicted.

>>134294122
He wanted to kill himself for a reason, has Anon ever figured out why he wanted to die?

>>134294296
>Your Life is Shit

This projection isn't healthy anon. My life is actually pretty sweet. Your life can be too if you get an education.

>>134294478
I told you to go kill yourself

>>134294445
Another important issue is the fact that immediately prior to his suicide he spoke with her on the phone twice, each time for roughly 45 minutes. This indicates that she spent 1.5 hours essentially talking him into doing it AFTER he had directly expressed to her his doubts and concerns -- at BEST you can consider this criminal negligence which people are often tried and convicted for.

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>>134287595
Can we all agree that she is at least a 7/10 though

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>>134292968
>Do you really think a jury is going to be sympathetic to her?

Yes. Was that suppose to be a hard question? It wasn't. All it takes is one old man with common sense to say what everyone else is thinking. 'This trial is fucking retarded.'

For fucks sake. The Founding Fathers made juries a right for a reason. You will get no justice from wannabe kings and queens wearing robes.

>>134294632
Hard to say

I think she is chubby when she is not on meds

>>134294545

So are you going to go down to your local community college and take a class on judicial process? Honestly, it will help you avoid looking like an idiot in the future. Especially if you make these retarded statements to people in person.

>>134294696
It does keep getting better. First she wants no Jury and now she wants no Appeal.

Sucks to be a poor fag in America

>>134294833
Look, try and pay attention, go fucking kill yourself now.

>>134294632
I think if she had dark hair she would look like Maisie Williams

Average on a good day, straight up troll on a bad day. She won't age well and I get the feeling that any looks she might have will fade especially fast

>>134293664
Don't be this mad, now you can send her love letters and maybe you will become her prison-wife

>>134294956
Unlikely

>>134294696
>Yes.

You would be wrong.

>All it takes is one old man with common sense to say what everyone else is thinking.

That "old man with common sense" wouldn't have made it through jury selection. You are aware that jury selection is a thing, correct?

The prosecution would have fought as hard as possible to have as many parents with young sons on that jury as possible.

>The Founding Fathers made juries a right for a reason.

Yes, because in some cases juries are the correct path for a criminal defendant. But that's a question of the charges and the jurisdiction. Some jurisdictions lean heavily towards being pro defendant and some lean heavily towards being pro prosecution.

All of these are considerations for the prosecution and defense counsel. Given the circumstances the defense likely advised the defendant to waive her right to a jury trial and take a bench trial because, depending on the jurisdiction, she could have been in a heavily pro prosecution environment. And that would have only been compounded during jury selection.

>You will get no justice from wannabe kings and queens wearing robes.

She likely had a better chance with a bench trial given the facts of the case. The jury was likely a 100% chance for conviction.

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>>134295244
>She likely had a better chance with a bench trial given the facts of the case.

Wrong. Never, ever trust you life to a fucking judge. Picture related. That is the current state of our jewdicial system.

>>134295244
Why are you still here, I told you to go kill yourself.

>>134287595
nobody made that beta faggot kill himself lmao get natural selected wimp

>>134295396
So you also have no idea how the judicial system actually works.

Are you and >>134295447 life partners?

>>134294891
She won't look as nice in a prison jumpsuit

>>134295469
This
Underrated Post

>>134295396
The Government had witnesses who said she sent the text, however, the witnesses also did not call 911

>>134295510
You said words could make people commit suicide, I have told you repeated to kill yourself.

You should die

>>134295871
>You said words could make people commit suicide

This is a gross simplification of the facts of the case.

If you were the defense counsel you would be held in contempt and when you posted bail then disbarred.

>>134287595
She should be sentenced to being my gf for a period of no less than 5 years

>>134295984
Please Hero live on Facebook and give me credit

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>>134295510
>you also have no idea how the judicial system actually works

Last year I was on the jury of a double kidnapping and murder trial. The evidence was overwhelming and it should have been an open and shut case. But there were two squeamish jurors that still had to be convinced. It took two days of heated arguments. This was a horrific double murder.

I can only imagine how divided the jury would be on a "cyber bullying" garbage case. Something that would have been laughed at only a decade ago, when people still had brains.

>life partners

You have no argument whatsoever. You are pathetic.

>>134291626
>huh?
>I type like a fucking retard
Kys

>>134296045
She already bitched one guy to death, do you really want to be the second?

>>134296045
Anon, you do not want this. The only boyfriend she could get was a guy she only met in person twice. She is a nutcase,

>>134287595
>bullying someone into suicide just to do it
T. /ourgal/

>>134287595
I said when happend and I say again.

> She had the best relationship.
> Pussy boyfriend and suicidal
> He die, and She will die.
ha.

>>134296126
>You have no argument whatsoever.

Except the post you originally replied to and failed to address anything within.

>>134296149
M8, I'm not gonna neck myself if I'm rooting a qt blonde murder girl
>>134296181
Don't give a fuck desu. I just want to fug her

>>134290632
> leaf flag
> shit story
kys.

>>134296097
>Please Hero
you have to go back

>>134296281
Stay away from single moms and nut jobs

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>>134287595

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Who will be the first anon on 4chan to be arrested for bullshit? What will be his made up cyber "crime"?

I think it will be someone doxing (((CNN))).

>>134296323
I agree with Single mums but I'm not gonna pass on a qt just because she's a bit fucked in the head

>>134294891
She's got that bad American squishy face.

>>134287595
It is a crime to suggest suicide, especially to unstable people


Fuck her! Bitches might think twice before talking shit

>>134296422
Anon, I have made that mistake
Do not do it

>>134291791
If only he had a Nissan Leaf...

At the end of the day HE killed himself. He was weak enough to be influenced by his surroundings.

Those eyebrows suggest a hairy as fuck pussy. 10/10 would eat.

>Say words

>Go to jail

"Justice"

>>134296798
>"Justice"

She's going to get that pussy tore up in the showers :^)

She's probably already found out what it feels like to take a shampoo bottle.

>>134292451
Who donates to these people? Like legit I really want to know. I guess the old "there's a sucker born every minute" adage really is true.

>>134296708
Would have been nice, if he could have gotten out of his home. I wonder how many time his Dad kicked his ass?

>>134296889
Go Kill Yourself

She is a virgin dumb fuck

This loser thinks you can get pregnant by texting

>>134297012
>She is a virgin dumb fuck

Lol

Female inmates can be even more sexually vicious than male inmates. There's a very high chance she's felt some Head & Shoulders between her thighs.

>>134296798
I actually know those feels. Just never IRL shitpoat my friends

>>134297116
She's not in jail yet, she won't be sentenced til the 3rd.

>>134297390
>She's not in jail yet

She was possibly in county for enough time to get a good gaping before bail was posted.

>>134287595
Ppl think death sentence is the worst penalty one can impose on an individual. Wrong.

For a young lady who once had so much to live for, the worst penalty will be a 40 year long sentence with no parole. She will come out the prison aged, ugly, lost her best years, and spend her remaining days envying her former friends living the normal lives she never had.

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>>134287595
Now that she's lost weight she's attractive. And her being proper psycho is a huge turn on for me. I can finally understand those chicks that are into killers.

>>134297553
Please see
>>134294445
>>134292525

She's not likely going to see a sentence that harsh.

Sentencing isn't until August 3rd, the maximum penalty is 20 years, and considering the mitigating circumstances of her mental health she's probably going to get a more lenient sentence.

>>134290632
Kill yourself

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>>134292559
>>134291443
>>134291170
>>134289141
>>134289078
>>134289042
>american manchildren defending their fellow beta
She DID just say kys and the faggot followed her orders like the bitch he is. Good riddence I hope some cunt tells you to off yourself as we already have too many cucks on this board.

>>134287595

I want to marry her

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>>134287595
shes too qt

>>134288848
>If so then the system in burgerland is fucked up
There's no if about it. Burgerland is fucked up beyond belief.

The only reason the land of my burgers is held up as any kind of example of a better life is because most of the rest of the world is even MOAR fucked up.

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No, she tried to get him not to kill himself, he was too stuck in his ways, not her fault he wanted to die so bad.

>>134302054

Maybe she should have told someone that could have helped. Either therapy or medication. Telling him to just do it and then use his death as an excuse to get away with whatever you want is fucked up.

>>134287595

The shills who are attacking Anon5 should. They are terrorists and pedo's.

>>134302495
He had already seen counselors about it. Didn't change his mind. Also I don't think you should try to force someone to live if they don't want to, you can try to convince them otherwise, which she did originally, but I don't think you should call someone to physically stop them from doing it. It's their life and body and he was an adult so it's his decision.

>>134302917

He stopped trying though and then she convinced him back into it.

>>134303192
Because he spent months telling her that it was best for him, and got her to agree with him. He can't just change his mind and then expect her to change her mind immediately as well after he spent months convincing her that it was best for him. Also if he really really no longer wanted to kill himself, like a normal person, then her telling him to wouldn't make him do it, like how if someone told me to I wouldn't do it.

SSSSSSSSSSS

>>134298595
>we already have too many cucks on this board
Yes, you are here.

>>134287595
Not really, if people are that weak willed that they'll kill themselves on command why the fuck do I care.

>>134290632
Fucking off yourself m8

>>134287595
Sure.

>>134287595
thats a fivehead

>>134298595
Nah, read the logs, she egged him on for a long fucking time.
She'd contact him and be like hi, did you do it, come on why don't you do it don't you wanna feel better. You GOTTA go through with it man, come on, you said you were gonna do it last week.
She'd be annoyed at the guy not killing himself, yet she'd be the one contacting him to push him for it.
It's not a case of: lol kys faggot imma go ride the cock carousel, bye.
I don't know if it's arguable from a legal standpoint, but this bitch is a sociopath and a monster for sure, society would be better off without her.

What if an ai did that? The guy did the final act that's all that matters. Egging someone one isn't a crime.

>>134298595
This anon gets it. But you've got to admit lots of women enjoy mindfucking men who are mentally weak.

>>134287595
i hope she kills herself

>>134287595
>We can all agree that she deserves to be executed, right?

I want to marry her

She should get money for helping to american society to get rid of that suicidal pussy

>>134296249
>HURRRRR
That's all I see when reading your posts

>>134287595
no, people should take responsibility for their own action you cuck.

this bullshit
>oh she made me commit suicide
>oh someone else is repsponsible for my actions

has really really got to stop. Quickly!

>>134287595
When is the execution planned? Could someone livestream it for us in europe?

>>134287595
Can't wait until this Klingon-looking bitch's face stops getting posted here

>>134287595
she literally bullycided a kid...execute her? I'd rather she date me.