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tfw you realize the wrong side lost the war

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tfw you realize the wrong side lost the war
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>>134270575
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now imagine being Patton
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>>134270575
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>tfw there will never, ever be another modern army which can match the supreme fashion sense that the Nazis had
>tfw no one cares about A E S T H E T I C S in war any more
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>>134270575
>when you can relate to a bunch of neo-nazi autistists on an anime image-board more than the average person
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>>134270575
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The second Hitler started mumbling about invading Russia, there should have been unanimous plotting to depose and replace him. Tried to fly too close to the sun.
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>>134270575
the worst side lost the war. whites lost because they are stupid and incompetent. men (non-whites) won the war.
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>>134270575
Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened.
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>>134270575
b-but if the wrong side lost the war... did the right side win the war?
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>>134273309
kek
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>>134270575

I don't know about that. Have Hitler won the war, he stated in his second book that Germany should prepare for a great struggle against AMERICA and against the ASIANS in the future for the supremacy of the world. For what I see, he was talking about a cold war going hot with US, and a war against Japan, just like the coming one with China.

We don't know who would be in power of the Germans, what would they be doing right now, and if it would in fact benefit mankind more than our timeline.

Instead of being a nostalgic whiny faggot, roll up your sleeves, and go participate of your own historical struggle against liberals, you dork.
Hitler won't save you, Europe is like it is now, as a consequence of his gambling with the future of Germany. He should NOT have done that, his arrogance destroyed his whole national project forever.

Now do something about the world of today, instead of consuming propaganda and being hunger for a fantasy world where everything was good for you.
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>>134270575
>Axis of Evil

Why would the big bads win?
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I think I might be a shirt-lifter lads, can't stop thinking about mens willys and bums
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>>134273815
>He should NOT have done that, his arrogance destroyed his whole national project forever.
>not realizing all Hitler did was in self defense
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>>134273790

Churchill was actually HUGELY against immigration even from the colonies, even as far as to go with Keep England White as a slogan proposal
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>>134274233

How was it self-defense forcing the international order some militar reaction by attempting blunt subversion of the treaty of versailles multiple times and running the risk of general war among Europe on all those attempts? Poland wasn't the first tension, it was his fourth dice roll. His advisors warned him. Poland without war with the west was the LAST diplomatic victory he needed before planning for Lebensraum. He didn't prepared for a long war, he didn't really prepared for the occasion of England and France doing what they told they would do.

This is on Hitler.
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>>134274233
>Invades neutral Poland,Netherlands,Belgium,Denmark,Norway,Yugoslavia and Greece
>IT'S JUST SELF DEFENSE!
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>>134275060
He just wanted to kill URSS, just like Bismarck era wars, little wars with one state only. He didn't want a war with the west. The idiot provoked one by accident, arrogantly thinking that his gambleing moves would pay off, again.
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>>134274494
That drunkman is the reasion why you are a paki colony now
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most of the names we know, including hitler, were extremely under qualified for their rank/position
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>>134270575
Yes.
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>>134272641
I care about A E S T H E T I C S , anon
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>>134270575
I watched inglorious basterds last night, and all I could think was 'we celebrate destroying this shit'?
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Germany is responsible for the rise of communism, the Cold War, and all the fun that resulted from it.

Germany is a country that has never been able to keep their shit together. Not only did they deserve to lose, but they were the masterminds of their own destruction.
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>>134275060
Poles were slaughtering Germans
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>>134275682

Hitler was a political genius and a diplomatic giant, and he was the right man for the job. He wasn't a MILITARY genius, and he clearly wasn't the right man for THAT job.
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>>134276266

So what, 50.000 for the recent reborn nation? If he was going to invade, why didn't he prepared his nation for a full blown war with all the potential participants of it?

You can't gamble 50.000 for 80.000.000.
If he KNEW that WAR was a possibility, he should have prepared for it. And he should have made everything possible to avoid it. He should have appeased Chamberlain and the French, about his last campaign, before turning towards the soviets.

Hitler couldn't be trusted, after going rogue to many times. He should had sticked with Chamberlain. His hate BLINDED him.
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If Germany had sticked to what they could got, Austria, Czech, Rhineland, and attempted to cool down the state of economical war that was going on, maybe there would be something to show for today. Maybe Hitler was right, that only as a superpower, Germany would be allowed to do it's thing, and subvert the versailles thing.
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>>134273092
This. A thousand times this.Tthat time you think your enemy can only raise 50 replacement divisions but he raises 821 divisions, massacres millions of you men, rapes millions of your women, and occupies half your country for decades
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>>134273092

He started in 1923, on prison, while dictating his book.

I disagree. Hitler could have won a war against Russia, if he was allowed to fight against them, without interference of the allies. If he was allowed to grab his territory back, Austria, Czechs and Poland, and fight with Russia 1x1, I would totally bet on Hitler.
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the right side lost the war.
fixed.
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>>134277177

Think about how many divisions he diverted, how many man he spread, how many resources he wasted on nations that were not URSS.

France, Uk, Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, Czechs, Denmark, etc
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>>134277361
German intelligence was still crap though >>134276826

There's a recorded audio with hitler and mannerheim where Hitler is surprised by USSR's troops.
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>>134277361
> URSS
My eyes... they're bleeding...
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>>134275060
Denmark was 'invaded' in the sense that German troops demanded passage to use Denmark as a springboard to launch an invasion of Norway. The Danes accepted and Denmark was called by Hitler a 'model protectorate' to demonstrate what life in German controlled Europe could be like. Norway was invaded because German intelligence revealed British plans to invade Norway and Sweden under the pretext of aiding Finland in the Winter War but really to open another front against Germany and to stop the transportation of vital iron ore supplies from Narvik (In northern Norway) through Sweden to Germany without which Germany's entire war machine would come to a halt. This plan was made by Churchill himself and like Gallipoli it failed miserably. The British were already illegally mining Norwegian waters and the Germans got to Norway just as the British were arriving. It's why Sweden wasn't occupied by Germany, it didn't need to be. The Low countries were occupied obviously because Germany couldn't go through the Maginot Line - it would be suicide. The Netherlands was included in a modified Schlieffen Plan and also because the British had violated Dutch neutrality by flying their planes over Dutch airspace. Additionally to drive the British off the continent completely. Hitler believed that it would be a quick campaign that would force to British to surrender there and then. He didn't think the occupation would have to last for six years. Greece was Mussolini being jealous of rapid German success in the west and deciding to show off Italy's might without informing Hitler. Only when Commonwealth troops began landing in Greece did Hitler assist Mussolini because British bombers could now reach the Romanian Ploiesti Oil Fields which was Germany's main fuel source without which her war machine would have come a to a halt and because Italy threatened to withdraw from the war if Hitler didn't help.
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>>134275060
(cont.) Yugoslavia actually joined the Axis for three days but the Serbian portion of the population resented an alliance with Germany and a British and Soviet backed coup overthrew Prince Paul and Yugoslavia joined the allies. Now Hitler was forced to invade Yugoslavia as well. So you see there's always a good reason for these things.
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>>134277544

Thats how we call it here, the CCCP.

União das Repúblicas Socialistas Soviéticas (em russo: Coюз Coвeтcких Coциaлиcтичecких Pecпyблик)
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>>134277491

Crap or not, the Soviets could not survive a direct fight without the assistance of the allies.
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>>134277683
OK then, comrade
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>>134270575
Really makes you wounder what life would be like without these zionist pigs ruling our every day life.
Cant be much worst then this..
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>>134270575
yep
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>>134277177
Pfft the Nazis werent going to beat the Red Army. The Wehrmacht was essentially defeated after the push back from Moscow when they lost most of their experienced troops in the stupidly aggressive move to take Moscow before winter. This happened before the lend lease agreement or anything the allies contributed to the USSR. In the second year the Germans concentrated their experienced troops into the 6th Army which was then baited into fully comiting to Stalingrad but the Red Army trickling reinforcements into battle feigning they were on the ropes. There was never any hope for Germany to defeat the USSR they absolutely underestimsted their strength.
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>>134270575
Honestly if I die I'm pretty sure my personal version of heaven will just be the world as it's depicted in pic related, not being a billionaire or a superhero, just leading a simple life with a qt wife and a few qt kids somewhere in the Nazi Empire
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>>134278049
Speak for yourself. I've got a good job and live a happy life. Hitler wasn't going to solve your personal crisis of being a loser virgin. Only you can do that
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>>134278163

When Hitler started locking horns with Poland, he didn't prepared for a long term campaign. When the war started, Hitler just wanted to get Poland, and keep his new stuff. Then he would arm for the real big aim. Hitler improvised as he went, and as he made wrong moves as well.
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>>134277096
Great picture
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>>134270575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg22LDQA69A
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>>134277801
Lol wtf the Germans had millions of their allies troops helping them invade the USSR and they failed 2 winters in a row before lend lease even got going
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>>134278081

Albert Speer is superior to any lifeless glass buildings we have today. This look like modern Rome.
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>>134270575
>Be American

>Have our space program based off National Socialists research and scientists.

>Be Forced to see (((narratives))) that black women got us to the moon
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>>134278312
Wow your life must suck balls then. Most of that is obtainable in this life if you weren't such a retard
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>>134272545

That had to have been a truly horrible feeling. He tried to make up for it by going after the USSR, but got killed a couple weeks after advising Eisenhower on it.
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>>134278163
Hitler really was working on a tight schedule. It was a zero sum game where every wrong decision could cost the entire war. What you have to remember is that the Abwehr (The intelligence service) provided Hitler with misinformation on many occasions culminating the execution of the Head of Abwehr, Wilhelm Canaris for participating in the July Assassination Plot. Hitler's strategies would have been quite sound had he been provided with the correct information. For example, the Abwehr informed Hitler that the entire Soviet Union had around 30 - 50 divisions. When Germany invaded they found that many divisions in just the Bialystok region on the German-Soviet border. You can actually listen to Hitler discussing this with the Finish Marshall Mannerheim, it's the only recording of Hitler speaking normally ever and he reveals his surprise at the industrial and military capacity of the Soviet Union and mentions that he never would have adopted the strategies he did if he had the correct information.
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>>134270575

I've entertain this idea. It's a...frightening notion. I was thinking about the Battle of Berlin the other day. I imagined the Red Menace making its way to the Reichstag. I imagine the terror in the hearts of ordinary Germans, who on a year or two ago, had so much hope and faith in the future. And then I saw the Red Menace's shadow cast over the whole of Europe and the world. The Red Menace perished, but not before leaving a part of itself with Liberal Democracy in America. Now, Liberal Democracy reigns, finding that the Red Menace's vision of the world is useful to its own ends.
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>>134278312
Is this supposed to make nazis look bad...?
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>>134277801
Well, the Soviets could survive and even more, but the cost would be much more high - army and civilian casualties, money, technics ets. I guess, it would have taken about 20 years instead of 10 to rebuld USSR after that, but it was not matter of life and death for a state with 200 000 000 population
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>>134278633

Was it betrayal? Did they feed him bad info on purpose?
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>>134278329
See this is why we are in a shitty place, you look at yourself today and you are happy what you see but you dont realise how much you are limiting yourself to the today instead of looking at the tomorrow of the world. What is killing me from inside is not the fact that I might not have a great job or that I wont get to fuck something but the fact that culture morality and art of our world is going to shit because of our failure to unite and prosper together as a species and realise right from wrong and stop being sheep thats manipulated to go into a certain direction that benefits only the 0.1% of the population and gives us a false feeling that we want that to happen. Just look at modern art our taste in music for new generations etc.
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>>134278468
Compare German allies to Soviet allies. All of Germany's allies were weak, some of them didn't even participate and were often a hindrance rather than a help. Though they fought bravely it was the Soviet breakthrough of the Hungarian and Romanian flank that trapped the sixth army in Stalingrad because they weren't as disciplined as the Germans and had extremely poor equipment. The USSR on the other hand had continent spanning empires with almost unlimited natural resources, some of which that didn't even have to worry about setbacks because of enemy attacks (Like the USA). It's a false dichotomy.
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>>134278386
>Hitler lost the war because Hitler lost the war

Wow some great insight there idiot.

The Germans were far better prepared to invade the USSR than the Red army was to defend it. The Germans had something like 6 million troops including their allies while the Red army onky had close to 2 million. The Red Army also had just gone through Stalin's purges losing 1/3 of their officers. The Wehrmacht couldn't have started the invasion of the USSR on better footing and they still lost.

Your idea of the strength of Nazi Germany is based on Hollywood and video games which exaggerate details to make stories more entertaining..
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>>134270575
Hitler killed more white people than any other human on Earth.
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>"what's wrong anon?"
>"why are you so sad anon?"
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>>134278787

Even if Hitler got that going, I bet that Russia would seek revenge and try to grab it's territory back in one way or another in the coming decades. Hitler just needed the territory until the Urals, and he just needed to topple the government.

I think he could have done it.
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>>134278806
No they didn't. Nazi Intel was just shit.
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>>134278878
>hitler
You mean churchill?
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>>134278721
The "Red Menace" had always plagued Europe and America before the rise of Hitler.
World War One was the only true war that could have prevented that.
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>>134278721
> the Red Menace making its way to the Reichstag
>I saw the Red Menace's shadow
>The Red Menace perished, but not before leaving a part of itself with Liberal Democracy

Hey, I thought James Forrestal was dead
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>>134276826
Now show us the total casualty figures of the Soviets, including aircraft and tanks in comparison to the Germans. Exactly, fuck off commie scum. The USSR wouldn't even survive the 20th century.
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>>134278863

I'm talking about different conditions. URSS x Germany, with no allies interference.

I would bet on Germany.

>>134278878

If you consider that it's the placement of institutions that win the future, not raw number of people, you could see pass that.
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>>134278878
redditor go fucking out.
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If you showed every Allied soldier what their countries would become after the war, they would drag their leaders out into the streets and shoot them.
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>>134278806
Yes actually. Canaris actively tried to ensure that Francisco Franco didn't join the axis. If Franco had joined the axis then Gibraltar could have been captured and the Mediterranean cut off from the allies. With naval supremacy in the region the Axis could have secured Egypt and the Suez Canal starving Britain even more effectively and perhaps even linking up with Italian Ethiopia. Canaris was executed for trying to kill Hitler and he was the Head of the Abwehr so definitely it was betrayal. I think he may also have been in league with a Soviet spy organisation based Switzerland called the Red Orchestra which the Gestapo constantly tried to capture.
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>>134278912
>ifunny
WTF?
How did this get on such a normal fag site?
>>134272741
Also OP is a fag for being a weeb
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>>134278940
>I think he could have done it.
He couldn't even get Moscow and central part of Russia
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>>134278551
I dunno where exactly you think a lifestyle like that is still possible, the closest I've ever seen is the more rural, conservative(and usually Mormon) parts Utah, Eastern Europe is still pretty conservative(and in some cases openly National Socialist) but it's still been somewhat polluted by Marxism and/or Globalism
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>>134278081
it's fucking gorgeous
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>>134278846


This is a fucking meme. The Nazis started the war on the strong foot partly because the Red army had split up its forces expecting an invasion from Japan. And the Wehrmacht had millions of troops from their allies as well as anti communist recruits from the occupied territories joining them. By the end of the war half of the SS wasn't even German. The Germans got far more assistance from their allies than the Soviets did. The Soviets got significant assistance from lend lease from the third year onwards but by this point everyone knew the Nazis would be defeated having lost 6th army at Stalingrad. The Soviets would have fared far better in the early parts of the war if stalin had listended to his generals more and not micromanaged. These are the mistakes Hitler would make later in the war
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>>134273092
He had to. Hitler correctly anticipated a Soviet invasion of the European mainland and acted preemptively -- Stalin had intended to launch this invasion only 17 days after Hitler launched Barbarossa.

>Hitler could have won a war against Russia.
He was poised to. The blitz toward Moscow was devastating -- the Allied forces were convinced Moscow would fall but the Allies funded Stalin with an additional $100+ (forget the exact figure) billion in a last ditch effort to help his forced ride out the storm until winter.

>the stupidly aggressive move to take Moscow before winter
It wasn't stupid and there was no other choice, it was a win or die campaign. If Hitler was unsuccessful in capturing Moscow before winter set in, the Soviets would have had all of winter to refortify and regroup and when the spring thaw came it would have been even more devastating to the Germans than it was because the Russians would have been well prepared, not caught off guard by the blitz.
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>>134279127

Never heard of this, great info, thanks for sharing!
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>>134277096
lol, the caption is interesting but they were the last of the great conquerers.
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>>134279069
That's because you have no idea what you're talking about. Soviets didn't get significant help from their allies until the Germans were already pretty much defeated. The Wehrmacht had significant help from their allies from the very beginning including accidental help by the threat of Japanese invasion making stalin decide to split up the Red army on either side of the USSR for the first year of fighting. Read a book on the eastern front you're just repeating Pol memes
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>>134270575
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>>134279127

Wait, was you the based aussie who posted super informative and well written posts YESTERDAY, about Hitler and his actions on Poland and the Czechs?
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>>134270575

Thread Theme:
https://youtu.be/fR3vuv-gMGk
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>>134270575
You mean the best side, right?

https://www.economist.com/news/europe/21723822-angela-merkel-says-nord-stream-2-no-ones-business-germanys-germanys-russian-gas-pipeline
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>>134279287
Get out of the house more then. I'm getting married in October most of my friends are married to lovely women. Gonna start trying for our first child soon
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>>134270575
if Churchill hadn't convinced the US to join the war this would not have happened. One man bears all responsibility.
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>>134279641
>the best side won

fixed
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>>134279571

Frankfurt?
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>>134279687

I fucking hate that fat fuck. His mistreatment of the poos was disgraceful too.
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>>134270575
I know... :'(
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>>134279571
My blood is boiling
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>>134279444
I'll add that toward the end of the war, Hitler said that if he had not launched Barbarossa, Germany would have been in 1942 where it was in 1944

Also many historians agree that if Hitler had taken Moscow and the war had lasted 7 years rather than 6, he would have won.
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>>134278826
MOTHER. FUCKING. THIS.
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>>134278081

https://youtu.be/SDuHXTG3uyY
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>>134279319
The Germans started Operation Barbarossa on the strong foot because the Soviet divisions were not set in defensive positions but rather offensive. It is true the Soviets were expecting an attack from Japan and that these veteran Siberian divisions would be used to great affect late in the war. But when you say Germany got much more help from its allies you have to think of the kind of help Germany received from its allies as compared to the Soviets. Quality vs Quantity which is a theme when talking about the Soviet war effort. The USSR's allies may have aided the Soviets less but the aid they did provide was worth much more than anything that any of Germany's allies could provide. You can't compare second rate Romania and Hungary supplying the Germans with under equipped, relatively undisciplined divisions to the USA's massive industrial effort to help the USSR. I agree with the things you said about Stalin and to some extent Hitler as well but it's also a meme that he micromanaged everything and didn't listen to his generals. Yes, at times he could be stubborn but again, his intelligence informed him as well as Goering that the sixth army could be supplied by the Luftwaffe. That's Hitler's mistake; believing that much in Goering.
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>>134279444
>Stalin had intended to launch this invasion only 17 days after Hitler launched Barbarossa
How can you prove that without using a mith about plan "Гpoзa"? I bet you can't. How is that possible for armies, that are lined at the border and prepared for war, not being prepared for enemy's attack?
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>>134279444
>USSR was about to invade Germany.

This is 100% horseshit. The Red Army hadn't been updated with deep battle doctrine. 1/3 of their officers had just been purged by stalin. Stalin had placed 33 divisions of his most experienced military in the east expecting the Japanese to invade from their. Stalin absolutely trusted the non aggression pact he signed with Hitler and the only reason the Wehrmacht did so well in the first year of fighting was because the Red Army was totally unprepared.
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>>134279738
Vienna I think. After the Anschluss. I could be wrong though.
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>>134279571
Lmao
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>>134279939
That's the point though. They were poised in offensive positions not defensive. They were caught completely off guard.
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Patton knew
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>>134279805
Oh so now you want to cite historians after repeating so much nonsense no historian says lmao
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>>134279939
Well, that's slightly disingenuous to the actual argument. The real point is that both sides realized the alliance was temporary, and the Nazis acted first before the Soviets could get up to anything. The fact that Zhukov suggested an invasion, even though it was shot down, does suggest that the idea of the alliance being shoddy was present in the higher ranks (after he would be promoted and all).
It's not like it was a Mexican standoff, it's that the Germans pulled the gun first while the Soviets were caught with their pants down.
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>>134279939
>how can you prove that?
>how is it possible that armies at the border prepared for war are not prepared for an enemy's attack
>>134279942
>This is 100% horseshit

Everyone who says this is not true or just a myth either can't or flat out refuse to apply even the smallest amount of deductive reasoning.
As >>134279871 says, the Soviet divisions were set out in offensive divisions along the German border, not defensive.
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>>134280088

You NEED to write a pdf of /pol/ version of WW2.
You are the best poster on matters on a german perspective of the conflict. You need to share this knowledge with the internet.
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>>134280104
>being this mad
lol go rest your belly faggot nobody is upset here but you
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>>134279871
Jesus Christ this is some delusional trope. The USSR only had 2 million on the west front how the fuck were they going to launch an offensive against the 6 million the Wehrmacht had including allies. Why would stalin have secretly supplied the germans material to rebuild their army. Why would stalin agree to give space to Germans to practise their new Blitzkreig doctrine. The aggressive USSR meme is not believable when you take into account the manuevers stalin made
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>>134280219
Are you the same Brazilian chap from yesterday? (For me it was yesterday, I don't know what time that is in relation to Brazil) But if you are then thanks again for the compliment but writing that much would take a lifetime.
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>>134279939
To add onto that, no "actual" allies would even have the idea of an invasion even floating around. Even Patton said "In my opinion, the American Army as it now exists could beat the Russians with the greatest of ease, because while the Russians have good infantry, they are lacking in artillery, air, tanks, and in the knowledge of the use of the combined arms’ whereas we excel in all three of these. If it should be necessary to fight the Russians, the sooner we do it the better". The two would later go on to fight a cold war.
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>>134280366
I have genuinely never seen anyone shill this hard for the Soviets. I wonder who could possibly be behind this ID??
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>>134278878
This is such a weird argument, it's like saying that the Swedes are responsible for killing white people in the Thirty Years' War... because they hated whites. It makes no sense, the purpose of the war was territorial.
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>>134270575
Yep
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>>134280193
No they fucking weren't. Deep battle doctrine was their offensive manuevers and that didn't get rolled out until the following year. The Red army was still using their WW1 doctrine and fully aware the Germans had Blitzkreig having just watched them roll over France. "Offensive formation" is meaningless just made up by the previous poster.
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S2 made me cry, so much progres lost...
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>>134278878
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>>134280366
If you want I would recommend 'Icebreaker' by former Soviet official Victor Suvorov. There are rebuttals books to his arguments as well if you want a response. He's also written a second book while not as good goes into further detail about troop and plane positions and pill box fortifications. There were also handbooks on the German language and maps of Germany and Romania (In particular the oil fields) with offensive directions on them and when Stalin's son was captured he was interrogated and more or less confessed to his father's decision to invade Europe under the guise of liberating the continent only to sweep the continent in red cloak.
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>>134280366
Well, that's because they were allies initially. They both realized the alliance was shoddy, and the Germans acted on it before the Soviets could. Really simple, they both realized it wasn't going to last forever. And if you've even read a page of Mein Kampf, the final goal of NS was to destroy Marxism.
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>>134280402

Yes, it's me, and I recognized your well written and depth of details on your posts.

If you ever have the time, consider at least, making a super resumed quick version of it all. You have so much knowledge, and it's always best to have a person with a fair mind to narrate the events of the war, in a fair fashion, and giving a German perspective to it all.

Every time you post, I rejoice with the new flood of information I never saw anywhere else! Keep up the great work!
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>>134280504
I actually read books on the eastern front and didnt get educated by a handful of unemployed virgins on a Cambodian Beekeeping forum
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>>134280612
>communism is the best
>I wish stalin were my dad
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>>134276826
that graphic doesn't show 50:820, it shows 100:820
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>>134280830
This is true.
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>>134280098

Even Churchill realized that in the end.
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>>134280612
>thinks offensive troop positions are meaningless and made up
>goes on to lecture everyone about military tactics
wew lad kys pls
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>>134273498
They didn't get it.
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>>134280756
I wouldn't be doing the conflict justice if I just made a PDF. I can only encourage others to read as many opinions as they can and corroborate the evidence to form a balanced version of events. Just read, read read! The rest will come naturally. But as always, thanks for your support!
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>>134280098
Patton knew one half of it, Harris-the other
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>>134280791
>I actually red books on the eastern front
>I am an expert
WEEEEW
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>>134280673
Icebreaker has long been debunked and once forced to show sources the author only produced circumstantial evidence

Also I love that every naziboo cites icebreaker. 1000 books on the eastern front but the only one they trust is one written to confirm to their worldview.
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>>134280914
Nice fake quote
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>individual shyste patterns
>Kabbalic Healing
>Scream Bloody Libel
>Sub-human
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>>134281039
Did you read that it was made up in an actual book you read??
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>>134278163
>>134278329
>>134278468
>>134278551
>>134278863
>>134278953
>>134279319
>>134279545
>>134279650
>>134279942
>>134280029
>>134280104
>>134280366
You fucking disgust me. Get skullfucked by shitskins stupid kike.
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>>134281146
do not be angry with him anon he is just doing his job as ordered by JIDF
also he has read books so he might know more than us
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>>134280791
>>134280985
Firstly, if you claim to be well-versed, appealing to the authority of "professionals who write books" to bolster your claim, followed by appealing to the quantity over the quality, isn't a great start to your argument.
And if the whole point is to have a rational and unbiased discussion, calling your opposition "naziboos" isn't a great start, either.
>>134281112
>>134281039
No, he's actually telling the truth. The quote is misattributed, I think somebody else said it. It doesn't show up before 2001, there are no instances of it.
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>>134280985
I wouldn't say long debunked. Why do you instantly trust other historians when you know they also have a agenda. Or do you actually believe that a politically charged emotional topic like WW2 could have anyone acting without bias. As I said there is also a second book and a number of books from German authors as well. You could say they are biased too but then you'd have to admit that the allies are as well. Or do you have 100% faith in their impartiality?
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>>134274494
And here we are.
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>>134279444
>>134279805
this
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>>134270575
Sure, but the USA kicked Russia's ass too.
>oh look it's this thread again.
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>>134281305
Did it though. The Soviet Union as a physical entity may have been vanquished but its ideological legacy remains to proliferate the minds of American youth. Or are you saying that Cultural Marxism has not infected your country to its deepest core?
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>>134274494

http://hitlerorchurchill.info/
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Ok lads I'm off. If you want to learn about the eastern front read some actual books. Nobody on here has any idea what they're talking about. Stalingrad by Antony Beevor is pretty good. He got access to Soviet military archives when the USSR collapsed so he has information from both sides. Before this the eastern front was mostly written with German sources because the Soviets were telling shit.
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>>134273309
keked after seeing flag
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>>134281426
That letter does exist and Gandhi did indeed write that but if we are to be fair, you have to post the rest of the letter as well.
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>>134278049
>I ruin the life of a serb by only exciting
Ho boy, i hope am the one causing feminine and death in Africa.
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>>134281459
>everyone is an idiot but me
lmao dont come back
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>>134281459
Anon, you can't stop by, say "I have no bias (lmao naziboos suck haha), I have read many books and there are more that agree with me (this is how truth is determined, by appealing to majority", then leave. It's essentially a >tfw to intelligent argument you're making, with little substance.
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>>134280504
Just another (((australian))) shitposter.
Disregard, goyim.
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>>134281565
I believe it is the appeal to authority fallacy.
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>>134275985
Hello Jew, tell us more.
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>>134281459
>only read these (((books))) goy, they are the only ones which contain the (((truth)))
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>>134281497
>you have to post the rest of the letter as well
I don't have them.
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>>134273790
EPIC
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>>134279444
i just want you to know that there are people like you that know this shit and unlike nu/pol/ would not blame hitler for literally anything.

i know fairly well that it can be exhausting to watch these retards defend the USSR and the allies about how evil hitler was, when you know by evidence that that was not the case and yet they would never accept said evidence because they are indoctrinated and blinded (only accepting university and jewish approved evidence ftw...).
keep on doing the good work and spread the truth.
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>>134281543
He was true about the Churchill quote being fake, though. He never said it.
>>134281730
That, too. A claim isn't valid/truthful or invalid/false because you agree/disagree with who said it. I don't think anybody is claiming that the Soviets were right on the brink of invasion, but it is disingenuous to claim that they were not expansionist/just twiddling their thumbs with no ulterior motives, as the thought of hostile action did cross through the higher-ups (Zhukov suggested an invasion; why would two allies even entertain the thought of an invasion? Wouldn't true allies have the person, like Zhukov, killed for even suggesting such a thing?).
It is also wrong to say "more people agree with me, ergo I am correct". If that were true, then the Earth is still at the centre of the Universe.
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>>134280504
subtle
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>>134278878
He didn't start it.
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>>134281459

You are an idiot when >>134281730 is actually well informed.
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Done with this meme.

Can we talk about how Hitler admired Islam and killed countless white Europeans?
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>>134270575
>the weaker lost
how is that the wrong side?
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>>134282066
>neocon
surprise
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>>134270575
it still lives on
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>>134282066
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
Actually, the "The only religion I respect is Islam. The only prophet I admire is the Prophet Muhammad." quote is disputed.
I guess that really does go to show: only "literally Nahtzees" enjoy Islam! Why should any nation accept a bunch of NAZIS if they love Islam so much?
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>>134282090
It's not wrong. It's just that the side which we felt would have proved more beneficial for the continued propagation of our people lost and thus we it is wrong to us and only us. For all intensive purposes there is no right and wrong side, there is only the stronger and weaker.
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>>134270575
>tfw you realize faggots like OP stil haven't gotten over WWII
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>>134282270
It's "for all intents and purposes". Unless the joke went over my head, but it seems you are seriously posting. It's a common error.

Besides, there is no right or wrong side in war, only who wins. Human rights are really a joke, war is an absolute anarchy of raw power and warrior's wit.
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>>134282066
fighting makes islam strong otherwise it would be nothing
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>>134282270
Okay and who is "us"?
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>>134282433
Whites who are for the continuation of white nations, not multicultural/open borders.
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>>134282270

A new ethnostate can be born. Remember that after ww1, white identity was a fundamental part of the life of all major western nations, none of them were practicing militar expansionism nor aggression.

It is not needed to become a expansionist project to get a safe haven for white people. All you need is to get in power, and be a pacifist state, looking for the betterment of your own people as the guiding directive. Surely this can happen, if you consider a long enough timeline. Familiar friendly mainstream culture, moralist institutions, healthy ethnic pride and peaceful relationships with the world.

This can be achieved.
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There is still a side to support today.
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>>134282090
>the weaker lost
Define weakness. In war each side experiences their own pitfalls and windfalls -- some of these completely unavoidable. If a rock hits your windshield and it cracks, are you a bad driver?

Also, just because you lost it doesn't mean you weren't right.
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>>134282382
Sorry, I was typing quickly. Of course I meant 'for all intensive purposes'. You are also correct about war. In nature, might makes right whether we like it or not. It's an unfortunate truth
>>134282433
Us as in Europeans and their descendants
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>>134282090
>is being controlled by kikes
>thinks it makes him stronger the stronger side
kek
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>>134282389

Islam is nothing as they've been crushed in battle over and over again throughout history. SHAMEFULLY SO at that.

Malta, ahem.
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>>134282640
Good quote, I'd rather fight and die on my feet than live on my knees.
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>>134282645
>Us as in Anglos and their descendants

Snap out of it
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>>134279571
SAD!
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>>134282549
But that's total bullshit. If you really think about it, the USA was and still is the cause of the downfall of western culture. They are a bunch of uprooted people and lost their sense of morals and belong.
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>>134282645

Ok, can you tell me about why so many Germans went down without a fight? Why such a high rate of surrendering? Did they do it in mass to avoid the soviets?

Also, why there wasn't a impactful movement of resistance after the war?
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>>134282880
globalism does that to everyone, it's just a slower process
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>>134282590
I can be but it is easier said then done. There are vast, deep rooted powerful and affluent institutions that are backed up by propaganda and covert force that actively seek to prevent these things. After WWI I wouldn't say that 'White Identity' was a major factor. Ethnic identity played a greater role. In fact it was the mistake of the allies forcing several European ethnicities into single countries that caused WW2, like Czechoslovakia, Poland, Yugoslavia and so forth. Rights can only be enforced by a strong opposing force to external and internal threat. Rights are not privileges, they have to be earned and the only way they can be earned is through show of force. That is nature and no living being can overcome nature.
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>>134281536
My sides could not be more blown if I was wearing a bomb vest screaming allahu akbar...'click'....blown.
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>>134273092
What is with this obsession of invading Russia? Like fucking seriously what's the point of invading them? They could have just prepared from a Russian invasion
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>>134282880
I don't think you know what 'uprooted' means. They were travellers who conquered the New World and created the USA. It is only after they allowed the same border policy the natives did that they are in a decline.
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>>134270575
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>>134282880

It's not the americans that own the supranationals institutions rooted there. They don't own the entertainment industry, and they don't direct the content of those. They don't own the FED.

They were subverted into a state of moral and spiritual corruption. Moralist institutions were dismantled and lost their power.
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>>134282549
There is no "us" anymore you are 10 years too late, when art and culture disappeared that was the end of any chances of white man being around 300 years from now. If you get manipulated into thinking that a shit stain is art and that your culture is less important then someones its all over for you, and thats what "we" did.
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>>134282640
>just because you lost it doesn't mean you weren't right.
I disagree.
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>>134270575
I-it has occurred to me.
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>>134270575
Well, the lesser of two evils did.
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>>134283036
You are talking about the colonists, I'm talking about the USA.
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>>134270575
American's cant post in this thread.
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>>134283149
NOT WITH THAT ATTITUDE.
Seriously, though. Simply because there is a decay in society does not mean the tumour cannot be removed. Granted, it is a lot more difficult. But you're one to talk, is Serbia as shit as the US or Canada?
I thought France, the UK, Germany, and North America were the really shit nations and Eastern Europe was relatively better.
>>134283306
Modern USA? Then yes. But not the historical founding fathers, they were white nationalists.
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>>134282765
Did I say something incorrect. I am Australian and that means I am more than likely of British descent but that doesn't mean I don't want the best for all European peoples does it?
>>134282913
The Germans certainly did not go down without a fight. In fact, it is quite rare in history to see a people so committed to fighting to the end. Even in 1945 a record amount of Germans remained loyal to Hitler. Apparently in 1944 when Hitler was reported dead after the July Assassination (Incorrectly of course) the people were devastated and looked as if they had lost a part of themselves according to reports. They preferred to surrender to the Western allies, yes, for the purpose of avoiding Soviet retribution and cruelty but that was really in the final months of the war when it was clear that no amount of resistance would stop the fall of the Reich. There actually was a resistance movement called the Werewovles (Hitler was known as Herr Wolf) and his HQ in the Ukraine was known as the Wolf's Lair. But unlike the countries Germany occupied, the war was over and the allies could fully concentrate on occupying a destroyed country. A lot of young boys were killed by the Americans on suspicion of being part of this resistance movement unfortunately.
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>>134282066
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>>134282952

I agree with you. Still, if the forced floodgate of immigration is not successful in destroying white people for good, I believe that time is the factor to trust on the comeback of racial identity as a big part of western politics and ideology.
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>>134282326
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>>134278081
One day yet.
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>>134283177
Because you are retarded.
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Every day
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>>134281497
http://www.mkgandhi.org/letters/hitler_ltr1.htm

the rest of the letter, basically hitler is a bad guy mmkayy
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>>134283393

Thanks for all the posts!
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>>134283393
>all European peoples

What did they ever do for you?
Fuck 'em.

>>134279641
Forgot to archive:
https://archive.fo/RLLXg
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>>134283828
I know, that's why I asked for the rest of it. It's probably good to remember however that Gandhi only knew of Hitler through the British so his opinion of him would have been shaped by British biases.
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>>134273092
>>134276826
Hitler not actually conquering Russia was due to a massively unfortunate turn of events.

He made it all the way to the first tramp stop to Moscow, and was a hair's breadth away from conquering Stalingrad.

If things had gone his way just a tiny bit more - I'm talking like a day of good fortune on the German side - it would've been over for Russia, and in a best-case scenario Staling would've been able to withdraw to Siberia with some troops, or flee to England in exile.
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>>134283388
I'm not saying theres no possible solution for our situation, there is and its really simple all we would have to do is unite, the problem with that is that we are fighting against people that are high in power and all their plans consist of divide and conquer. Now when they get to the level of literally selling shit stains for millions of dollars and nobody is asking questions about a shit stain being sold because some dude on the TV told them it has a spiritual meaning that means our population is made up of sheep that gets manipulated to run in a certain direction that benefits that 0.1% of the population and gives them the false feeling that thats what they want to do, that means we are lacking people that can think for themselfs and they need a leader now we get into another corner because influential leaders are puppets that herd the sheep. So the only way out of this shit hole is to get people to ask questions but our population is too dumb to do that.
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>>134282686
That's absurd. They didn't become the second largest religion in the world spreading a bedoin language across a region to 300 million people by losing war after war. They thoroughly kicked the asses of Europeans during the Ottomans, Seljuks and Crusader times. Islam has elements to it which ensure longevity and survival as well as a defense mechanism for the society which is jihad. I can see why a national socialist like Hitler would like Islam.
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>>134270575
Not sure what fag country you're from but as a citizen of the only country that really won the war I'd have to disagree. Hitler was a fag who got off getting abused by his niece and probably some hookers. That would have been the most embarrassing thing for me if I were German. I only hope that I'll see France and Poland (or some other slavic country) share a common border
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>>134284036
You are a pure neo marxist

>communism is better than natsoc
>Muslims are cool
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>>134284070
see
>>134284127
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>>134284036

>Soviet fag
>Islam fag

Can you get more disgusting?
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>>134284036
>thoroughly kicked the asses of Europeans during the Ottomans, Seljuks and Crusader times

I thought you were of Anglo-Saxon descent, you fucking asshole
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Reminder that all the anti Hitler and anti Nazi posts are mostly by guys that look like this
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>>134284036
>Islam has elements to it which ensure longevity and survival
Yeah, no wonder all the intellectuals spoke so highly of the Islamic faith...
Wonder where they are now.
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We beat the nazis yaaaaay
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Its all a neo nazi conspiracy goys
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Minorities are based
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>>134283924
It's a give and take. The British didn't invent everything you know. The French and Germans and the Polish and the Russians and the Greeks and Italians etc. have all contributed their share to making this world more beautiful and comfortable to live in. We've had our differences but if we ever want to come out of this victorious, then we either do it together or not at all. Anglo's can't solve all white people's problems.
>>134283879
It was my pleasure. But keep learning as well. Read as much as you can get your hands on.
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>muh civic nationalism
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>>134283562
Why don't you take a hike, loser? Did that heavy weight fuck your joints up that bad?
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>>134284070
>hitler was a fag
stopped reading
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>>134283962
That's all nonsense. Moscow was saved by bringing 33 experienced Siberian divisions into combat who were culturally adapted to fight in Moscow's winter. This against the fact that the werhmacht didn't even have winter uniforms and their machines were designed to travel in Russian mud or snow meant Wehrmacht was going to stall.

Stalingrad was a far cry from going to the Germans either. The Red army was baiting Germans into fully commiting to the siege by trickling forces in to appear weak. Meanwhile they were building up a reserve army behind the lines for operation Uranus which was to encircle the entire 6th army and eliminate it. It was a brilliant strategy which played to the soviet advantage in numbers and terrible lines of supply for the Germans. The German generals actually realised a little later it was a trap but by this point Hitler was lucid on his drug addictions and couldn't really be reasoned with. He started sacking his decent generals to replace them with psychotic yes men
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>>134283475
It's hard being a nationalist when this is your country.
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>>134284386
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>>134284437
But at least you beat the nazis
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Jews are based. Nazis were the bad guys
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>>134284127
>>134284183

I'm just talking the facts lad. The commies won WW2 and Hitler liked Islam I'm sorry that this triggers you
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>>134284380
Fuck off, you already outed yourself as a G*rman or some other shitskin here >>134284036
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>>134284190

This shit is horrible.
The war was already over, whats the purpose on killing civilians like that?
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>>134284445
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>>134284557
Hitler only cared about his own people and you are a commie faggot. You're a limousine Marxist.
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>>134284557

fuck off fag, go away
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>>134284566
Yeah, Brits prefer sand niggers over other Euros now.

>>134284650
>muh cherry picked twitter image
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>>134284566
Can you even differentiate between id's? That's the other Australian whose been arguing against everyone else, including me, this entire thread.
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>>134284632
Why do you even ask?
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>>134284744
He's a shitskin Lolbergtarian
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>>134284190
Ottomans got right into the heartland of Europe through what? Losing every war? Lmao. Seljuks were the whole reason Europe Christendom united to launch the crusades in the first place, they were that much of a threat. All crusades except the first were catastrophic failures the Muslims at this time were far more capable military strategists. European monarchs were incapable military leaders while the Muslims had actual military men leading and their own kind of General Staff. It was basically upside down from today where it's now Muslims going into combat based on faith rather than preparation.
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>>134284744
Sorry, purple/brown tags, same flag, very confusing
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>>134284423
>That's all nonsense. Moscow was saved by bringing 33 experienced Siberian divisions into combat who were culturally adapted to fight in Moscow's winter. This against the fact that the werhmacht didn't even have winter uniforms and their machines were designed to travel in Russian mud or snow meant Wehrmacht was going to stall.
So the Germans weren't within a stone's throw from Moscow, to the point where they reached the tram lines?

>Stalingrad was a far cry from going to the Germans either.
At one point the Russians held only a couple of buildings on the west bank of the Volga. It practically was over for the Russians.
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>>134284725
>Three-quarters of all Americans will be overweight or obese by 2020, a study by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development has warned.
>Cherrypicked
Go for a run, fat fuck.
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im really fucking curious what would have happened if hitler would have won, i mean how retarded can you be to lose the world if you had fucking ufos and early tier super weapons like the b2 spirit bombers and the early missile. If the war would have lasted 2 more years hitler might have won. Besides hitler was fucking financed by jews anyway look it up
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>>134273092
Hitler should of waited for Russia to invade Poland first. WW2 would start without Germany.

He could have saved the Poland.
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>>134284817
Muslim countries are shitholes and so is Australia
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>>134284874
You're a newfag that has to go back
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>>134272545

Yeah dude I imagine being dead all the time
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>>134284695
Lol this monkey is triggered that Nazis lost WW2. They lost and now Europe is 15% Muslim and 5% African.
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>>134284809
I am a mere American
Do you even JOIN OR DIE?
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>>134275985
I don't know man your idiot culture is poisoning our youth, your pc ideology has long arrived here in colleges and student's minds and your piece of shit country started Muslim immigration here anyway to lure Turkey into Nato. Ever wonder why that goes "Refugees welcome" and not Flüchtlinge Willkommen? Really makes you ponder. And where did the cuck fetish originate again? Hhhhmmm. It's funny how it's always burgers who don't see that we just follow in their footsteps. But holy shit you're moving fast.
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>>134284975
And Australia is getting taken over by Communist chinks, which you probably are.

>>134285003
An American posting pics of dead Euros.

Hello non white
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>>134285073
the us is 74 percent white you fucking retarded german
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>>134284920
what the fuck is this shit
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>>134284920
>>134284945
Don't you have a jailing of a Dear Leader to mourn over?
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>>134284875
The scouts suppodedly got within eyesight of the Kremlin but this is all to do with where the Red army free their lines of defense. To take Moscow they planned to first encircle it which they were no where near achieving. Hitler sent the order and one General wrote back "this is not the month of June and we aren't in France" basically saying "impossible"
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>>134285147
You aren't white Juan

>>134285170
I voted for Trump
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>>134285090
>posts pictures of sub-par Right Wing Death Squads
>roots for Commies

U N S U R P R I S I N G
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>>134284875
The Germans still had to cross the Volga to take the rest of Stalingrad. Nowhere near doing it. At the end of the day not only did the Germans commit everything except their Romanian rear guard into Stalingrad but the Red Army built another reserve army to encircle Stalingrad. The Germans only took that much of Stalingrad because the Red Army was baiting them to over commit I explained this earlier
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>>134279871
German allies didn't just send military support, Romania sent 8,820,000 tons of oil to Germany from 1940 to mid 1944. Without that oil the war would be a lot different.
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>>134284919
Impossible. One of the pre-requisites for the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact to be triggered was that Germany make the first strike. Hitler signed the Pact as an insurance deal against possible allied intervention over Poland and the deal was set to take place IF and ONLY IF a diplomatic solution could not be reached with the Polish authority. Of course Stalin outmaneuvered him there and attacked two weeks later when they were supposed to attack the same time (But still remembering that Germany HAD to launch the initial invasion) thereby focusing the allies indignation on Germany and providing the Soviets with an excuse to occupy Eastern Poland citing protecting minorities from a collapsed state (At this point the Polish government had fled to Romania) as their reason for invasion thereby making it not illegal and not an invasion (And it was very convenient for the allies to believe this line of reasoning wasn't it?) Stalin would not have invaded Poland in 1939 otherwise.
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>>134285297
>Snakefag is underaged

I voted for Trump. You're an idiot.
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>>134284919
This is the first actual decent comment in the thread. Had Hitler waited for stalin to move first it's entirely likely Britain and France wouldn't declare war on the USSR instead of Nazi Germany
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>>134285209
>I voted for Trump

Your point?
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>>134285147
More like 58%
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>>134285355
Yes of course, I've mentioned in several posts the importance of the Romanian Oil Fields but I meant in comparison to the USA and British Empire, the quality of support is not comparable.
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>>134270575
tfw you could've been terraforming Mars in the 1960's
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>>134285209

>>134285073
apologies for my anger
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>>134285390
Congrats on voting for the most pro wahhabi pro Jewish president your county has ever had. What does Saudi cock taste like?
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>>134285390
>Snakefag is underaged

Where are you getting that from?

https://archive.fo/RLLXg

>Germany has never accepted the mantle of European or global leadership that so many would like to thrust upon it, especially when it comes to the politics of energy. Outsiders should not be surprised to see it behave like any other European country favouring its own consumers and firms (two of the five companies investing in NS2 are German). American intervention may only strengthen Germany’s resolve to protect its commercial interests.
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>>134285503
France and Britain barely assisted USSR at all I don't know what youre talking about. Lend lease got going by the time the Soviets pretty much had the Nazis defeated anyway it was more like it helped the Red army finish the war sooner.
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>>134274494
He was a Jewish puppet
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>>134285147
You would be right in 1990. Even (((wikipedia))) has non-hispanic whites at 63%. But they count middle easterners so scale that down to 60%. Fucking burgers in denial man.
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>>134284920
>Muslim countries are shitholes
>USA flag

???
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There was no right side. They all represented degenerate ideologies.
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>>134285718
USA is only 57% white
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>>134285701
>Greatest Brit to ever live
>Jewish puppet
>1 post by this id

Not everyone you hate is a Jewish puppet, Mohammed
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>>134285697
I didn't mention France at all, not that it would have been of much help anyway while occupied. My point was that the quality of help provided to the USSR was much more helpful to its war effort than the quality of aid Germany's allies provided.
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>>134285798
Trump is literally a Jew puppet I don't know why this board loved him so much
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>>134285181
>The scouts suppodedly got within eyesight of the Kremlin but this is all to do with where the Red army free their lines of defense.
During the preparatory attack, the Germans all but annihilated Moscow's defenses.
They took like half a million prisoners, and Moscow had fewer than 100k defenders left.
What stopped the Germans from taking Moscow was the fucking weather.

>>134285310
>cross the Volga to take the rest of Stalingrad
There was virtually no "rest of Stalingrad" on the east bank, see pic. Just a couple of blocks.

Please stop posting, it's embarrassing.
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>>134270575
bad side against bad side

>starve shit out of Germans, steal their land, cut off their people from their country
>Germans pay the abuse forward
>Russians pay the abuse forward
>Jews pay the abuse forward
>USA just derps along acting like they are the heroes of the day and derp forward fucking up the world with that mindset.

Fuck everyone, you're no angels any of you. You're all fucked up.
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>>134285884
Because he wasn't Hillary and while he is a civic nationalist he presented a strong resistance against the left that America has sorely needed
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>>134272545
I knew this was going to be a feels thread...
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>>134285826
Sorry i misread. British didn't send any assistance really they were desperate themselves expecting an amphibious invasion from the Germans. The soviefs got huge assistance from lend lease the likes of which the world has never seen but this only started arriving by the end of Stalingrad anyway, by this point everyone already knew the Nazis were done. Nazis were pretty much defeated after the first winter when they lost most of their experienced troops and were forced to concentrate the remainders in 6th army which was then trapped in Stalingrad. USSR didn't need lend lease to win the war, they were already winning. but it really helped them finish the war quicker than they did
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>>134270718
aw, mein failure, you tried so hard for ze Germans, but zen you just... completely fucked up and it was way worse as a result. Good job dumb shit.
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>>134285884
I wasn't even talking about Trump
Who's confused now, huh?
Are you sure you are an Anglo?
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>>134285967
That's city centre only. Stalingrad was huge it had long suburban areas. The Germans didn't have enough to encircle Stalingrad. The Soviets did. The Germans only took as much as they did because the Soviets were syphoning off units to build the reserve army
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>>134272641
At least the stalhelm has made a comeback, and panzerfausts still exist by name, and the mg-3 too!
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>>134286150
I'm half anglo half German
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>>134286253
Also germany is steadily becoming more Muslim, Hitler would have liked that.
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>>134285795
I know, my original claim was 56% itt. I just quoted the 2010 wiki numbers for convenience.

>>134285584
It's all good
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>>134286404
It's going down by the minute!
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>>134286237
If the Germans managed to capture all of the actual city, they would have controlled the river and the opposing bank. They then could have easily consolidated and subdued the surrounding regions.

Stalingrad was a bee's fart away from falling to the Germans. Even the Russians will tell you that.
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Kek you nazi retards are so easily triggered

Thank god Hitler lost, hopefully you kill yourselves too
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>>134286362
Why? Admiring a religion doesn't mean you want your country to adopt it. Hitler was right when he said that Islam is a more aggressive and fanatic religion while Christianity is often mired in ethics and morals presenting a weaker front to opposition. I don't know how you can say with a straight face that Hitler, the Germanic supremacist would have liked that Germans are replaced by Arabs and other Muslims. It's incomprehensible.
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I'll just leave this here
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>>134286507
this
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>>134286564
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>>134286362
>Also germany is steadily becoming more Muslim, Hitler would have liked that.
I can believe that.

He might have liked it partly out of spite, and partly because he'd genuinely feel that today's turbocucked Germans genuinely deserved cultural annihilation.
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>>134286682
http://hitlerorchurchill.com

Gonna drop this if theres any naysayers

If you can take this test and get 100% your first time I'll be surprised
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>>134286883
No he said decent stuff about the muslims then and said it'd be good for germany even then iirc (ironic kek)
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>>134286564
>"loss of land"

Reminder that the locals never owned the land to begin with.

The English took it from the Ottomans, and then handed it to the Jews (via the UN).

The last time the locals owned the general "Israel" area was under the Jewish kingdom over 2000 years ago.
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>>134286273
>half German

That explains a lot
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>>134287003
He liked the religion, but he would never have tolerated the immigration of people from northern Africa or the middle-east if he had remained in power.
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>>134270575
Yeah but where's the face?
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>>134286934
wrong link, it's hitlerorchurchill.info

So far I got it all correct.
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>>134270575
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>>134273309
Damn you lol
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>>134287323
thanks anon
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>>134289195
I got 86%

Fucking Churchill, man.
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