[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Free Show | Home]

What is the proper response to the supposed "Opioid Epidemic"?

This is a red board which means that it's strictly for adults (Not Safe For Work content only). If you see any illegal content, please report it.

Thread replies: 58
Thread images: 17

File: last rites.jpg (70KB, 477x600px) Image search: [Google]
last rites.jpg
70KB, 477x600px
What is the proper response to the supposed "Opioid Epidemic"?

Do we let degenerates be degenerates and just let them die off, social darwinism style?

Do we take steps to reform society such that young people are less incentivized towards drug abuse? How would that even be accomplished?
>>
> do we hold big pharma and peddling companies like McKesson accountable
>>
File: 1493850781762.jpg (94KB, 946x798px) Image search: [Google]
1493850781762.jpg
94KB, 946x798px
>>134237760
>Be Burger
>Control 90% of the world's heroin
>Hook all your kids on synthesised heroin
>Profit
>>
Do what China did.

You execute the addicts instead of the dealers.
>>
>>134237760
>young people
opioids aren't usually recreational drugs at first
>>
Former addict here, the treatment centers to help people quit thrive off repeat customers and they make things far worse.

They use suboxone or worse, methadone, and try to keep people on them for months and months, some advocating staying on them for life.
Naturally, people build a tolerance to opiates over time, so it just makes addiction worse for most, with very few managing to complete this dumb bullshit.

Putting up some PROPER treatment centers would be a large step forward, but there's too much money being made and donated to politicians for it to happen.
>>
File: naltrexone-implant.jpg (92KB, 1140x641px) Image search: [Google]
naltrexone-implant.jpg
92KB, 1140x641px
Mass incarceration of addicts
Followed by mandatory Naltrexone implants.
>>
File: rule britannia.png (63KB, 959x540px) Image search: [Google]
rule britannia.png
63KB, 959x540px
>>134238046
>Implying this problem is limited to North America.
>>
File: junkie.jpg (35KB, 350x379px) Image search: [Google]
junkie.jpg
35KB, 350x379px
Just walked out of working in drug treatment services (personality disorder area) after 15 years - due to services being privatised from NHS to a charity. In all that time working with thousands of addicts - I can count one one hand those that moved from subsitute prescribing to being drug free.

At the start I had an idealised (retarded) view that a difference could be made - wrong as wrong could be - best to contain the situation with alternative med's - methadone and so forth and let them die off - most dont exceed 50 due to various forms of illness and shit for blood.

Governments are never going to stop the human desire for an alternative state of consciousness and therefore can never stop illicit drugs on the streets - so control it by legalising it and taxing it.

Give advice as per cigarette consumption - cut out the criminal element - lessen health effects and save the tax payer picking up the tab for the degenerate fucks. Maybe worth a try ?
>>
>>134239664
Would you agree the only worthwhile use for substitutes is to lessen the pain of the first three days of withdrawal?
>>
I'm trying poppy seed tea for the first time tomorrow. I was told it is cheap and medium fun. I have both citric acid and lemon juice in the kitchen. Any advice on which one to use? Also 5 min shake?
>>
File: 1500067705464.gif (446KB, 300x186px) Image search: [Google]
1500067705464.gif
446KB, 300x186px
>>134239664
>>
>>134237760
Poison the supply
Kill them off
>>
>>134237760
Honestly legalize the shit and let Darwinism finish the job. Stop punishing the taxpayers.
>>
>>134237760
Change the argument into the whole thing is about White Genocide. People would not be so depressed, without hope for the future if there was not so much anti-white propaganda coming from the media and the State.
>>
>>134237760

Try and control the spread of fentanyl and even-worse analogues like carfentanil, no idea how you'd do that but they're the reason the opioid epidemic is killing so many people compared previous drug epidemics. Other than that not much can be done, a shit-ton of people feel hopeless and the drug problems in a lot of the effected communities will never really go away, just get less bad maybe.
>>
File: tumblr_n6z4im8p9f1smsmqro1_500.gif (989KB, 500x265px) Image search: [Google]
tumblr_n6z4im8p9f1smsmqro1_500.gif
989KB, 500x265px
Forceful incarceration for three weeks. Lock them in a comfy cell, give them a 50% reduced opiate treatment once every 3 days, make them exercise and eat well, etc
>>
File: 1500193735052.jpg (49KB, 597x652px) Image search: [Google]
1500193735052.jpg
49KB, 597x652px
kill all drug dealers on site duterete style
>>
>>134239966
yes as far as withdrawl issues are concerned - after taht it becomes the issue of psychological dependence - many different psychological tricks are used - blind reductions and so on - but have little long acting effects on the psychological dependence / social environment etc etc -
>>
>>134240810
don't forget the addicts though. thats important too
>>
>>134240715
>heroin withdrawal is worst during the first 3 days

>give them more opiates every three days
Are you a fucking terrorist? Jesus
>>
>>134240715

Force them to withdraw cold turkey. Do it enough times they will stop.
>>
File: solution.jpg (164KB, 719x960px) Image search: [Google]
solution.jpg
164KB, 719x960px
>>134237760
>What is the proper response to the supposed "Opioid Epidemic"?
Communism
>>
>>134239664
It's not even worth legalising with the tax. Drug syndicates have an efficient, tax free and therefore cheaper distribution system already in place, there'd be literally no change
>>
>>134241322
i fucking hate commies but even i have to agree that they arent what they were once neither are fascists just inferiors Larping sadly
>>
>>134239966
>first three days
Physical withdrawal symptoms last much longer than that.
Having said that, these people need to go supervised cold turkey if anything is going to change for them. In a fucked up way, getting through wthdrawals cold turkey gives a sense a pride and accomplishment, and no substitute means less chance of forming a new addiction.
The family is ultimately needed to be involved. Lack of close family or friends or being enabled by family or friends are probably the main causes of opiod addiction in young middle class american whites. That and a lack of identity coupled with drug use being made to look cool and edgy in almost all media.
>>
Naltrexone implants make it impossible for an addict to get high. They block opioid receptors. An implant can last for 6 months.
So there is a cure to opioid addiction, but government is getting in the way.
>>
>>134237760

Execution.

No we kill them.

Yes, then we sterilize their parents.
>>
>>134241681
Just means they'll inject more to break through it, as is what happens with everything that blocks the receptors currently
>>
All you can shoot heroin buffets in prison to let them die off

Also hang that jew family that created oxycottin
>>
>>134241412
but - you could buy "safe" narcotics, as it were - but I do accept your point. The recurring noise i heard was trhat dealers just sell shit - addicts buy at times for the psychological mind set of doing the act - often its a waste of their money.
>>
>>134237760

9/11 happened because the taliban banned opium production, so the jews used the USA to take over afghanistan and restart the production.

Read this and then see pic related:
>Published: May 20, 2001
>http://archive.is/Wcvl
>>
>>134241681
Addicts shoot tar through infected needles into there veins

You dont think theyll just cut the implant out?
>>
File: 1490056618194.jpg (57KB, 612x612px) Image search: [Google]
1490056618194.jpg
57KB, 612x612px
>>134242424
WOW! Check those numbers of truth.
>>
>>134241412
People will pay higher prices for convenience.

Convenience is king in sales. "Not being stabbed by a nigger" is pretty convenient.
>>
>>134242243
agreed - that what happens - no "high" is available but overdose is still likely as the drug still slows down the resperitory system and the heart rate therefore bring on death despite naltraxone - have even come across addicts who have cut the implants out of themselves such is the psychological desire to use heroin. fuck, have seen them inject into stumps following amputations of limbs due to injecting practices
>>
>>134242424
Side benefit - as the victim, America got to choose who to punish and it just so "happened" to be the country that nixed opium production. There were bigger fish to fry that day.
>>
File: IMG_2744.jpg (31KB, 248x189px) Image search: [Google]
IMG_2744.jpg
31KB, 248x189px
>get addicted to opana
>sort of quit
>still do Roxis on the weekends
>no children
>heavily contemplating suicide
>am white college educated and have promising job
>MRW I realize this scourge was meant only for the communities of color, but the globalists decided otherwise
>>
File: [Pyramid].jpg (124KB, 1024x819px) Image search: [Google]
[Pyramid].jpg
124KB, 1024x819px
>>134237760

Save the ones you can, the rest will just be wastes of energy.

[Archives of KB's: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/]

Trafficking Networks also need to be stopped. Prescription Drugs are also sent around the Networks.
>>
>>134242958
Weaksauce
>>
File: 1492651787850.png (43KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]
1492651787850.png
43KB, 1920x1080px
>>134237760
First, legalize all drugs. Countries like the Netherlands have legalized almost all drugs and are doing better than us as far as overdoses and overall drug related issues go. We would do even better if the FDA was in charge of monitoring the quality and content of the drugs, preventing people from putting rat poison or random fillers in your shit. Personally I don't need to government to tell me what I can't put in my body, and neither does anyone else. We know heroin and meth are bad for you, making those legal won't make people use more (see use of marijuana actually going down in states where it was made legal). There are just some people who don't care, and whether it be fines, prison time, or even execution, people will still do it. The harder you make it to obtain, the more in demand it is.

Second, change drug "education" in school. Programs like D.A.R.E. are outdated dogshit. The issue with D.A.R.E. is that its main mission was never to educate, but to persuade. Nobody wants a loved one to die from drugs, but if your cause is truly righteous, wouldn't presenting accurate information/history be enough to convince people, as opposed to trying to indoctrinate them? Humans are naturally rebellious. Kids see a commercial with Hillary Duff telling people not to call things gay, and the first thing they do is call that shit gay (because it is). Simply telling kids what to do will never work, and making them write papers about how bad drugs are is just another attempt at brainwashing. Sidenote: People should be taught to self-educate if they DO choose to do a drug. AKA, go on google and look up "effects of ___" or "how to do ____ safely".

Third, crack down on the pharmaceutical industry. Everyone knows the current heroin problem is caused largely in part by people being handed opiate based painkillers like they're nothing. Take these doctors who pass this shit out like candy to court and get rid of their licenses.
>>
>>134242958
For real, you're a little weak minded bitch.
>>
>>134243669
Your parents raised you straight then, because you're a real faggot.
>>
>>134237760
It's the economy, stupid
>>
>>134238046
Unfortunately this is so spot on. We carried drugs to our shores during Vietnam in our boys caskets. We flew it to support the Contras in the 80s and even got caught, again. Now we are in control of Afghanistan, have a heroin epidemic and people wonder why. We are population of fucksticks that never learn.
>>
File: 1500489594215s.jpg (3KB, 114x125px) Image search: [Google]
1500489594215s.jpg
3KB, 114x125px
>>134242955
>Side benefit - as the victim, America got to choose who to punish and it just so "happened" to be the country that nixed opium production. There were bigger fish to fry that day.

WRONG. The attack was intentional. And the motive was the heroin. Afghanistan produces 90% of the world supply of heroin, and the jews directly profit from the trade of this drug.

READ:
>Afghanistan's opium poppy production goes into more than 90% of heroin worldwide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan

just connect the dots.
>>
File: jews dont want this.jpg (90KB, 711x654px) Image search: [Google]
jews dont want this.jpg
90KB, 711x654px
Legalize Cannabis, it is less harmful than alcohol and is far better for pain (chronic and otherwise) than Opiates. I would know, I have major double Ulnar neuropathy, and it sucks without something. On days I know I will have it (even later) I am more inspired to get IT work done despite the constant pain. When I am using it, cannabis totally negates my pain and allows me to "get out" of my body far better than meditation or medications.
>>
>>134243692
Tbf I doubt you even lift a little. I may be weak willed when it comes to that substance, but It doesn't control me. I'd rather do oxy and get drunk on the weekends than be one of these gamer faggots. There is almost nothing more pathetic than playing video games past the age of 18. Only Jews and cucks would disagree.
>>
File: 1455996248307.jpg (24KB, 275x298px) Image search: [Google]
1455996248307.jpg
24KB, 275x298px
>>134244526
>Only Jews and cucks would disagree.

And, of course, those among us who would say that either of the weekends you mentioned would be fully pleb tier.
>>
>>134245136
Aaaaaaaaand you've never snorted oxy and not been able to nut. Turns you into a madman. Idk wat does the avg /pol/ contributor do on the weekends. My guess is it involves a lot of desperation, maybe not drugs, but holding up walking youreself in a dark room probably isn't much different than partying. Even as good as graphics has gotten it's really gay to play video games imo. Not saying there is anything wrong with it though
>>
>>134245815
>defending opiate use as if you're better than anyone
Former junkie here

You're retarded
>>
>>134244526
What's your totals bitch. Judging that you're an abuser you probably weigh less than 60k and your lifts are ass.
>>
>>134244526
>>134251199
124 snatch 184 c&j 85kg what's ur totals little tweaker boy?
>>
>>134237760
Police Officer here, large south eastern city

It's a unspoken rule that you don't use narcan anymore unless you or someone you know cares about the person. Cause they call back and OD like the next day. There is literally nothing to do to help them.

EMS is full of ideologoues so they try to save them, just to come back and revive them again the next day.

Why the fuck would any of us want to help someone who when they come too might try to stab you with a HIV+ syringe? Or who could have fetanyl all over their shirt that can be absorbed through the skin?

fuck 'em
>>
>>134237760
well according to leftists we're so damn good at wiping out other species as a species, so why not wipe out the plant responsible for these drugs?
>>
>>134237760
Find the Foreigner with the Brown.
Beat, stab, shoot, kick, punch, then drown.

>speaking in riddles
>>
>>134240810
>when your a burgerlard and have autism but you cant physically move to get help so you posts memes on /pol/
lol
>>
>>134237760
Wouldn't be happening in a National Socialist society.
Thread posts: 58
Thread images: 17


[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y] [Search | Top | Home]

I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


If you need a post removed click on it's [Report] button and follow the instruction.
DMCA Content Takedown via dmca.com
All images are hosted on imgur.com.
If you like this website please support us by donating with Bitcoins at 16mKtbZiwW52BLkibtCr8jUg2KVUMTxVQ5
All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties.
Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.
This is a 4chan archive - all of the content originated from that site.
This means that RandomArchive shows their content, archived.
If you need information for a Poster - contact them.