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US Citizen BTFO'd by Britain

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4709122/US-expert-fails-Charlie-s-doctors-reconsider.html

How retarded are Americans? Multiple doctors have assessed the boy and they've concluded that there's no hope yet you assholes are STILL being conned by your medical industry which profits off of keeping people on useless meds for as long as possible
>Oy vey goy there's a special treatment! Just keep paying me and we'll cure the boy
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For a very long time the Republicans in the US protested any socialized medicine because it would give the Government the ability to decide who lives and who dies. This argument carried no weight to Democratic voters.

For example, if 90 year old Grandma is sick, they'd probably elect to just allow the pneumonia to kill her instead of doing everything they can. This is probably the best option. But, if the family had money, they would be able to pay for Grandma to go to private doctors and have her issues sorted out to the best of their ability, even if it was a futile (or arguably, cruel) to do so.

The crux here being that, the Government has the right to not pay for treatment if they don't think it is worth it, but private citizens could carry on with treatment on their own.

Charlie Gard has extended this relationship of Government and your body. Government rules that Charlie has no merits in seeking treatment on Government dollar. Sure, that's fine. But, on top of that, Government now has forbidden the family from seeking treatment in the US and is prohibiting it from leaving the country, even though this would be entirely at the family's expense.

This is the nightmare "death panel" scenario Republicans harped on about for seemingly no reason. It's an actual thing transpiring before our eyes.

And now, even though Gard could become a Permanent Resident by an act of Congress, the UK courts are refusing to let him leave. An American resident has been detained without charge and is sentenced to die by neglect. This is against basic human decency. Our Military should extract Charlie as a protectorate of our nation.
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>>134233222
Dumb Americans. This child should not suffer any longer. Not only has he got a horrid genetic disorder, he's now an American citizen.

God help him!
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>>134233222
also OP is a sick fuck who loves killing babies and I hope Muhammad rapes him to death
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>>134233222
Are you the retard that was asked multiple times to provide the definition of a government? The same retard that attributed arguments to the wrong posters?
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>>134233571
>>134233533
Are you the retards that keep blaming everyone else but his parents fucked up genetics for this kid dying?
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>>134233222
Just let the kid try out the medicine and if that doesn't work then you can execute him you Brit.
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>>134233222
Nice trips.

Also, that people still defend ARE EN AITCH ESS boggles my brain-box.
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>>134233533
>>134233571
>>134233703
Some add Charlie to the Anglo kill count image
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>>134233682
Nope. I just asked. Never got an answer. But I think you just answered my second question.
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>>134233788
His father is quite BEADY.
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>>134233510
>Government rules
Sorry Yank but you've failed to understand how the system works.

The doctors decided. The court agreed. The government had no part in it.

I hope you and your filthy lying hate filled country perishes in Korean atomic fire.
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>>134233841
Nah I'm just curious as to how anyone in these threads can blame anyone else other than the parents for this kids sickness.
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>>134233879
The court is a part of your government you daft autistic cunt
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>>134233222
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>flown in for treatment
but there is no treatment for his condition? his only hope is to be a guinea pig.
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>>134233879
Please enlighten us then. I know i have asked multiple times, but apparently Bongs are too stupid to understand their own system. How is the NHS not part of the government? I am not being snarky, I am asking.
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>>134233985
Someone edit Charlie into the pic please
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>>134233199
>Just let the child have its take on medicine and IF THAT DOESN"T WORK then start barking your death sentences proudly.
My guess is bongs have such bizarre laws in place maybe because of cases before that, when retarded parents spent their money and took their inoperable kids to some healers who will treat them with herbs, mantras and homeopathy.

It also reminds me of some completely screwed russian guy who wanted to spend his fortune earned on stock exchange to do a full body transplantation (yes, really) in Italy. Now he's adult and wasn't barred from doing so, but it was quite obvious for everyone in both countries that this thing is a scam. Don't know what happened to him tho.
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>>134233222
Why do people care so much about this shit? Fucking hell, babies die all the time.
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>>134233965
>what is separation of powers
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>>134233879
>I hope you and your filthy lying hate filled country perishes in Korean atomic fire
Muhammad's gonna take over your entire country with 1 gun and 1 bullet before that happens.
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>>134233879
>perishes in Korean atomic fire.
scratch that
too painless
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>>134233965
Separation of powers in the UK, courts are not part of the government..
>>134234032
Why don't you just google the UK's constitutional structure and learn for yourself? It's really not that hard to do.
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>>134233879
>the court agreed
>the government had no part
British """intellectuals""" everyone
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>>134233926
And I'm curious about the questions I asked about how the NHS is not part of the government, but I have only received deflection.
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>>134233527
how is it America's fault? seems like the parents want to do everything possible to keep him alive and get better. but yeah it's America's fault. I don't think the child should suffer any longer than possible, especially if nothing can be done, but this is the parents choice. no way the US is forcing the child to stay alive. maybe all that gingivitis in your mouth is having an impact on your thinking ability. maybe you should come to the US, we have toothbrushes and mouthwash here.
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>>134233879
Lol kimmy actually getting a nuke off, buck toothed faggot
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>>134234104
You've got to be a troll. They're branches of the government. It's like you're trying to convince us that the Queen is somehow not government because she's been limited in power. You're fucking retarded.
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>>134234032
My guess is Gov just sets the budget, NHS does whatever they want
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>>134233965
no.....no its not. Gov is a different branch of power...are you trolling me nigga?
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>>134233222
>>134233222


You are so eager to kill you won't even let someone else waste someone else's money. You are sick.
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>>134234145
>judiciary isnt a branch of government
Britbong education
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>>134233222
Why do Bongs love oppressive governments so much? It's like they beg people to tell them what to do.
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>>134234134
It wasn't funny the first time either takbir
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>>134233222
Jesus christ let that little retard baby die, what a wast of taxpayer funds, go spartan and chuck him in the trash
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Why is it that British people are stern and calculating while Americans are emotional babies as this thread proves?
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>>134234145
Why not just answer the question? It's most likely because you don't know. How is a public entity not a part of the government?
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>>134234277
They don't deserve education.
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They should pull the plug ASAP.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z0R7tDXhCZY
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>>134234206
the queen is the head of the state, not part of gov. You are confusing government with state.
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>>134233222
digits wasted on such an obvious faggot
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>>134233222
fucking idiot Americans want to keep a human lab rat to experiment on. disgusting
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>>134234152
The NHS is not the court lol.....

>>134234165
>Missed my joke

>>134234147
>He's been told 100 times that the UK's constitution contains separation of powers
>He ignores this
>He doesn't even check google

>American """intellectuals"""

>>134234289
Judiciary in this country is independent of the government.
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>>134233222
ENGLISH BABIES DIE IN ENGLAND WITH HONOR FUCK YOU BURGERS
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>>134234206
https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/83728/does-the-word-government-in-english-mean-the-courts-as-well

Okay, so apparently in British English, the UK's "Government" in a legal sense does not include the court system, whereas Government in the US (and in the literal definition not bastardized by limp dick cocksuckers from England) means what it naturally does.

This is quintessential British pedantry and I still vote that we fucking invade, but now simply because of this autism.
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>>134234206
>americation
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>>134234277
are you this retarded? why is kek giving digits out to these mongoloids?
Your court system is funded by tax payers. It operates on the exact same incentive structure as other branches of government.
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>>134234008
Even if the experimental treatment works the kid isn't going to make a full recovery by any stretch of the imagination. That's if it works, and the Yank doctor had now said that the chances of that are slim because of the specific form that his co condition has taken.

Basically a grief stricken family who don't, understandably, want their son to die are being manipulated in to offering him as a guinea pig on their own dime.
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>>134234394
Don't bother, Americans think every country in the world is structured like them.. It's pathetic really.

>>134234357
Because it's been answered, you refuse to accept said answer because it goes against your current narrative.
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>>134234342
>stern and calculating
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>>134233965
I think there's a basic problem in the difference of definitions here
The are three basic powers regarding laws, legislative (writes them), executive (enforces them) and judiciary (interprets them)
In the US these three together are defined as three branches of government
In European countries, the Government is only the executive power
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>>134234416
>The NHS is not the court lol.....
But it is funded by taxpayers and therefore operates as any other government bureaucracy would operate. My god, man, how can you be this fucking stupid?
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>>134234464
So you just found out that our courts are not the government.

Well done, it only took you an hour to figure it out even though you were told. Have a star *
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>>134233222
>trusting the (((nhs)))
good goy
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>>134233222

Believe it or not, lots of people are kind of hard wired to not want babies to die.
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>>134234464
No, the courts are not part of government in the US either. There is no special burger definition of the word government. You are just retarded.
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>>134234593
But it's not the court... Or are you going to try and argue that it is?
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Its about an parents choice. Do you know why this is being opposed? Its because even though they are funding the treatment the ruling would open a precedent for this treatment to be paid for by the NHS.

I agree his parents should nhave let him go but he's being denied treatment to make an example.
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>>134234611
Considering the courts can order a baby to die I'll consider them a part of the government by its natural definition. It's like contending that the IRS is somehow not a governmental agency because it's technically a private company. This is pedantry, you know it, and you're a baby killer.
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>>134233222
US Doctors deserve a chance to save the babies life. We know we have by far the superior healthcare and will be able to achieve this "miracle" or as it is know 'all technology is indistinguishable from magic', UK will learn what capitalism can do! Or maybe they are just scared to give us Baby Charlie in case they would be embarrassed.
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>>134234277
Parliament is legislative
Courts are judiciary


...its still part of the Government, like it is in the US.
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>>134234666
https://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/teacher_lessons/3branches/1.htm

You are simply incorrect.
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>>134234534
Yes that was the question. However I was looking for an answer, not a repetition of the question.

If I wanted you to repeat sections of my question I would've said "Americans, please reply to me quoting sections of my question but do not answer the question itself". I hope I've helped clear up any misconceptions you had.
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>>134234668
The commenter you replied to said it was part of the government.
Now everyone is trying to say that the government is somehow separate from a sub-branch of that government.
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>>134234534
>>134234551
>tfw /pol/ thinks he should be given drugs and govt as well as European Court have nothing to do with it
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>>134233222
>Be British
>Country is ran by pedophiles and migrant pedo rings run rampant
>silence

>Be British
>Diseased baby taken to US for treatment
>Protest because you wanted the baby to die

Fuck off.
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>>134234701
>Considering the courts can order a baby to die I'll consider them a part of the government

Ok if you need to win this argument so badly then by Christ you get to win it (even if you are a retard with less brain cells than Charlie Gard).
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>>134234575
You're replying to a burger, it's a lost cause
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>>134234847
cheers m8

now on to how you're a baby killer
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>>134234514
>Other branches of government
ok im gonna spell it out:
The one that has branches is the state. the government is one of the branches of the state(executive). The courts are another different branch of the state(judiciary). The last branch is Congress (legislative).

this is some 2 grade shit come on...
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>>134234516
And you'd rather the child just fucking die than even give him the slimmest of chances?
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>>134234706
*Blocks your path*
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>>134234733
>Courts are judiciary
Judiciary in this country is independent of the government. What are people not understanding about that?

>>134234814
U fucking wot m8? No one is saying that, the NHS is not the court. Learn it and accept it.
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>An institution that can prevent you from seeking medical care on your own dime isn't part of the government
God damned britcucks
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Why do UK citizens like being a bitch to their state?
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>>134234814
In the vocabulary of European countries, yes, yes it is
It's a linguistic barrier apparently
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>>134234206
kys retard
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>>134233222

>multiple doctors
>no hope
Damn shame Britain.

>oy vey
>special treatment
My son would get the very best, at least from me.
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>>134234752
>https://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/teacher_lessons/3branches/1.htm
ok all burgers are retards then not just you.
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>>134234925
Not if it costs the tax payer millions of pounds
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>>134234957
is it bad that I laughed?

>>134234924
Don't waste your time, I'm just laughing. Just laugh with me Spain. Just laugh...

>>134234978
>>134234974
>Get called out on their stupidity
>HURRR DURRR GURR RURRR I'M RITE U ARE RONK!!!!

lol adorable!!!!!
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>>134234957
National Hellhound Service.
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How about this We all shut the fuck up about it and let the parents decide what to do?
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>>134234842

>don't protest that the baby should be put to rest peacefully as it will have 0 quality of life

you would rather keep it alive and experiment on it.
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>>134234145
>UK constitutional structure
You have no constitution. 1000 looseleaf sheets in different locations does not equal a constitution. If you're gonna play the 'im suh smart' game separation of powers is the separation of the executive, legislative and judicial branches. These three all form the 'government'
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>>134233222
This Charlie Gard shit is so fucked up. Parents get to keep their baby alive and in pain at incredibly high cost to the tax payer (medical cost and legal costs) and they still won't pull him of life support even after the appeal to the UK court and EU court failed.
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>>134235118
On another note I doubt the German government rgives a Shit about money.
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>>134235118
>How about this We all shut the fuck up about it and let the patient decide what to do?
fixed
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Can you idiots not see that they're trying to set a precedent for testing random shit they've pulled out of their arse on babies?

The "cure" (lol) hasn't even been tested in mice..

They don't just want your foreskins, now they want your whole babies.

For those interested about his actual condition, read this: https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/rrm2b-related-mitochondrial-dna-depletion-syndrome-encephalomyopathic-form-with-renal-tubulopathy#genes

He can't make new DNA, he can't repair DNA. He has no motor function. Can't breathe unaided, can't eat unaided, can't swallow, can't even open his eyes. Has brain, liver and kidney damage beyond repair.

But because some Jew doctor comes out and says "oi! Giz me a few million shekels and I'll "cure" him with this miracle treatment I've pulled out of my arse!", some people are thick enough to go along with it.

Telling this idiot to fuck off is just the same as dealing with any other scammer.

But again it's not just the money, it's the precedent this sets, the treatment has not been tested on mice. You don't just shove any old cocktail into a human.

DNA problems are tested by analysing the DNA, finding the right gene switches, developing a drug to combat it, testing it in MICE, then testing in humans. There's no reason to test on a living fucking baby. (No, it has NO chance of "working", if you Americans think you can reverse brain damage you're likely brain damaged yourselves).
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>>134233527
that little nigger better not be an anchor baby we dont need any refugees
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>>134235080
This is being said for the thousanth time already.

the parents will provide the money and not a drop of a pound will be wasted from taxpayers money because the child will recieve treatment in the States.
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>>134235080
The parents had 2 million in donations and the NHS wasnt gonna pay a penny.
They just didnt allow it to cover their vampire asses so they cant be sued for wrongful discharge.
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>>134235133
>You have no constitution.
U WOT M8?

We have an uncodified constitution. Please tell me all Americans aren't this stupid?
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>>134234689

You are dehumanzing Charlie, and treating him a product.

The doctors are acting on the strength of their own moral judgement, not on the strength of profit.
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>>134234416
Ok. But I was told the court is not a part of the governing body. If that's true, then we are right in saying the court is preventing the parents from using their own money to provide a treatment to the child, which Bongs have been saying since the last thread that this was not the situation.

Most Americans are psychically disgusted with Euros' blind reliance on the state, and how so many are fine with establishing a precedent that the government can choose who lives and dies, i.e. death panels.

This whole decision has given those against single payer health care more fodder when arguing against it because it's showing death panels are a real side effect of having socialized medicine.
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>>134235130
If God wanted the baby to die he would have let it pass by now.
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>>134235222
Americans are immune to reason
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>>134235218
>>134235118


How about we remove all treatment and let nature decide if he lives or dies.
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>>134235255
>>134235274
And I will say this for the thousandth time

HE WILL STILL BE BRAIN DEAD AFTER THE PROCEDURE AND HE WILL NEED TO BE ON LIFE SUPPORT FOR THE REST OF IT'S LIFE

COURTESY OF THE BRITISH TAX PAYER

NO FUCKING THANK YOU

ABORT THIS FAILED CREATURE
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>>134235080
Your country and its system is a solid example as to why socialized medicine is absolutely evil.
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>>134235355
Okay ahmed
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>>134234925
Yes if there's the potential for even greater suffering. You're reducing it to life and death when it's far more complex, you're making a mockery of medical ethics.
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>>134235222
Don't bother they won't listen to reason.

>>134235354
I don't really care about what you think of "Euros". You've been told the facts, you do with them what you will.
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>>134235489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWd6XgBVIcg
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>>134235418
who fucking cares at this point the kid is probably going to grow up to be somr far left faggot anyway
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Beating a dead horse
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>>134235667
>This kid
>Growing up
See

>>134234957
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>>134235489

because financially unattainable medicine is much better
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>Carthaginian elite sacrifice infants to their shit tier god
>Rome destroys Carthage

If only we were as moral as Rome, fellow burgers. Londonistan delende est.
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>>134235118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&noapp=1&v=UwWfE4DAyao
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>>134235133
Your constitution is a plagiarism of our own. Dumb seppo.
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>>134235489

*socialised

It's hardly evil, its just mismanaged.

Remember, the court awarded Charlies fate to the doctors - not the NHS.
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>>134235418
Who cares Shit is retarded and I'm pretty ducking sure the majoriry of people bitching about this kid are fucking Christians. The kid might be white but he will still live in Germany filled with far left retards so he will become on
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>>134235790
Why is your country so shit then?
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>>134235790
I'm crying with laughter right now. It's amazing, this thread is almost as good as this one.

>mfw that doctor from the US was probably the one posting in that thread.
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>>134235832
Same reasons yours is
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>>134233222
Oy vey, how cruel can a nation be! Let the goy- I mean, boy go to the US. My good and knowledgeable friend there says he can reduce the brain damage by 4% (!!!) with special kosher food for the cheap price of several million dollars. A bargain compared to the value of a child's life!
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>>134235222
>the treatment has not been tested on mice
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4019994/michio-hirano-charlie-gard-american-doctor-nucleoside-bypass-therapy/
>already tested on 18 human patients
>has some positive results
>bong still wants to torture mice
>he likes to torture sometimes
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>>134235748
Expensive medicine is still some form of attainable medicine at a cost and is better than just letting someone die in the streets like a dumb animal because medicine for him would be expensive.
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>>134235748
>>134235744
>>134235685
UK anons unironically think their opinion should be the preeminent concern of healthcare decisions... for people they've never met.

This baby will die from the rot of socialism, more so than the disease.
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>>134235322
Please tell me all brits aren't this indoctrinated
You know this 'uncodified' thing is a sham right? Its an excuse perpetuated on the population for not having a single document which sets out your all encompassing fundamental rights. You have the Bill of rights which is mostly concerned with dissolution of the king's powers, the HRA 1998, and common law precedent, none of which protected your population from draconian anti free speech laws
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>>134235222
They don't care they just want to feel superior. America is one massive collective superiority complex.
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>>134235080
Thats the entire point here, you retarded bong.
What business is it of the establishment to allow you to seek medical help in a way that doesnt effect the general populace in any way, shape or form?

This is what a death panel looks like. You can preach "seperation fo state" all day long, but the fact of the matter is that your country operates the exact same way every country operates. The polical leaders are in the pocket of the economic leaders, and the populace is presented with the illusion of choice in the matter.

At least in the US we have the freedom to travel to whatever country we want, to do basically whatever we want.

You morons lost your ability to think for yourselves the second you sold out to third world shitskins.
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>>134233222
Considering that the world still considered Ebola an incurable virus and we flew some dude into bumfuck Nebraska and cured his ass in a week I'd say the United States has the intellectual prowess and medical might to deal with this problem.
People keep ragging on the United States for not having universal healthcare or giving out free kidneys on every street corner. But if you're dying of some incurable disease, and you want a chance at living. I'd rather die in the land of the free where my corpse might help save a few thousand people in the future then get kicked out with no hope at all from Eurocuckistan.
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>>134235018
Does the linguistic barrier prevent you from understanding basic economic principles of supply and demand and incentive structures created by profit-models versus coerced taxation?
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>>134236001
That's fucking nonsense. There is a clear violation of personal liberty here that you should be appalled over.
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>>134235354
>Most Americans are psychically disgusted with Euros' blind reliance on the state, and how so many are fine with establishing a precedent that the government can choose who lives and dies,
aren't you guys responsible for the most famous case of this? there was a court order to kill her off.
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>>134235748
>thinks our medical system is financially unstable because there's not enough government involvement
wew, mate
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>>134235979

he wouldn't die in the streets, he'd die in a hospital with medicines that ease him comfortably into the abyss.
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>>134235981
>At least in the US we have the freedom to travel to whatever country we want, to do basically whatever we want.

That's strange because the UK passport has more 'unbanned' countries you can visit than the US does


hmmmmm
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>>134236072
Intellect alone is enough of a good motive to defend national healthcare, nigger
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>>134235994
>He still protests that he's correct
What is it with you and just admitting that you're wrong?

You were wrong about our court structure and now you're trying to say we have no constitution? Yes we do have a constitution, that changes constantly and isn't a solidified one like yours.

I mean for crying out loud do you know how fucking stupid you look? By all means keep going because laughter really is the best medicine, hell we should show this thread to little Charlie, might just be funny enough to cure him!
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>>134236176
>defending court orders to kill people
Europeans, everyone.
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>>134233222

Who gives a shit, that dude is not even white.
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>>134235916
I was angry but now I've just started to enjoy it. We live on a planet where the most powerful nation on earth is a genuine idiocracy.
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>>134236176
You mean the case where the private decision to pull the plug was upheld? Yeah, it was great. I am for private freedom, plain and simple.
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>>134235467
Exactly.

Read: https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/rrm2b-related-mitochondrial-dna-depletion-syndrome-encephalomyopathic-form-with-renal-tubulopathy#genes

Read: https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/rrm2b-related-mitochondrial-dna-depletion-syndrome-encephalomyopathic-form-with-renal-tubulopathy#genes

READ: https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/rrm2b-related-mitochondrial-dna-depletion-syndrome-encephalomyopathic-form-with-renal-tubulopathy#genes

He can't even GROW. Less than a handful of people have had this condition, and some fucking American doc things he can "cure" it (plus brain damage, lol), with a completely untested treatment?

They're wanting to use him as a test subject, a defenceless human reduced to a guinea pig for who knows what, no more. The parents of course are obviously milking the attention.

Look at the pics, "Charlie Gard opens his eyes!", no, he HAS them open, (likely by the parents), they're also still, unfocused, brain-dead. Can you keep your eyes that still? Nope.
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It's hilarious and sickening to see how enthusiastic Britcucks are about this upcoming infanticide.

They're weaponless serfs being sacrificed by Theresa May to the god of cultural enrichment. This is the only way they can feel a shred of power - arguing for the moral virtue of infanticide.
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>>134236001
An absolute absence of self-awareness you'd expect from Mohammad Bong.
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>>134236264
did you quote the wrong post?
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>>134236194
>thinks our medical system is financially unstable because there's not enough government involvement

not even what I said. unattainable does not mean unstable. get a dictionary.
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>>134236311
Just go with the flow man, just laugh. It's good for the soul.
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>>134235667
No he isn't.

He can't grow. Literally. He also can't create or repair any DNA. He will simply waste away.
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>>134233222
Us Humans may be stupid, but we are determined.
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>>134236339
No one wants this kid to die I can assure you but his death is one of those things in life that cannot be stopped.

No this thread is mainly laughing at how dumb Americans are. Please keep the laughs coming.
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>>134233222
>woman wants to abort unborn child
>REEEEEEE THE CHILD IS A PERSON IT HAS RIGHTS THE MOTHER DOES NOT GET TO DECIDE!!

>child in a state of endless suffering and torment with no hope left is to be euthanized by doctors
>REEEEEEE THE PARENTS SHOULD HAVE FULL CONTROL IF THEY WANT HIM TO SUFFER HE SHOULD!!
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>>134236211
>This is the only example he can find of Brits having slightly more freedom than the US.

Is it just me, or UK anons becoming MORE retarded?
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>>134233222

OP, would you also have behaved like a total bitch if in the 1930's you had visited South Africa and witnessed a boy named Christiaan Barnard cutting open the carcasses of stray dogs to study comparative anatomy? Would you later cover up that smug shit-eating grin on your face when in 1967 that same boy completed a heart transplant?

I bet you would. You would condescendingly shout "F--- Louis Washkansky's short miserable life" and you would do the same to these parents, research notwithstanding.

And that is because you're a smug British cuss who always thinks he's right.
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>>134236311
>>134236455
Just allow the kid some form of treatment, for humanity's sake.
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>>134236211
Yeah and look what it's getting you, you self deprecating Muslim servant.
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>>134236569
Nowhere near levels of American retardation, you most certainly are NUMBA ONE in that regard and there isn't a soul alive that can steal your thunder.
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>>134236120
>literally muh freedom
>every Yank argument ever
You're a living parody.
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>>134236569
It's the most relevant point to the statement you made boy

give up
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>>134236542
>Can't be stopped
>Too cucked / cowardly to try experimental treatments

You socialist drones are already dead in spirit.

I don't believe you that you aren't enjoying playing god with this infants life. There's too much piety and self-assurance involved.
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>>134236328
>private decision to pull the plug was upheld?
>Yeah, it was great.
>private decision to pull the plug is upheld.
>Fuck this, how dare you to kill poor child?! There is a treatment out there.
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>>134236569
>WE CAN GO TO SUDAN AND NORTH KOREA
>TAKE THAT AMERILARDS
>*applies for license to buy small kitchen knife*
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>>134233222
What happened to race mixing and hybrid vigor? This kid should be a fit as a fiddle! Oh, genetic disorder huh? Hmm
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>>134236328
after several years of battles with government intervention.

hopefully, this child will not have to suffer that long.
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If all retarded vegetables were euthanised Americans would go extinct overnight
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>>134236729
It isnt about life or death, its about the private decision made with private money always taking precedent, whatever it is
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>>134236569
>This is the only example he can find of Brits having slightly more freedom than the US.
And you handed it to him on a silver platter, didn't you?
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>>134236728
Do I work in the NHS or am I involved in this kids care at all? Nope...

Playing God would be altering the course that God has set out, obviously God wants this kid dead otherwise the kid wouldn't have this illness. So by your logic, using experimental treatment that will not work is playing God which you are arguing against but justifying at the same time.

Do you see how fucking stupid you look?
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>>134236688
>>134236708
>These brainlets unironically think they should decide the fate of infant
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Let's be honest if the kid was Syrian the judge would've put him on a 1st class trip to the U.S for any hope
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>>134233222
>>134233879
>>134234527
>>134234894
>>134235096

Either way, your smugness doesn't help to keep things civil. And where Americans are concerned is that a third party outside of the boy's family has essentially told him that in spite of possible riskier procedures that the family would be willing to pay for, they are now legally mandated to sit there and let their child die without any alternative whatsoever.

That's what people are disgusted with. And furthermore, you don't have to be an insufferable arrogant jackass. Jesus Christ talk about enforcing stereotypes.
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>>134233222
you brits and europoors love killing children. The comments are cancerous.
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>>134234802
>receives answer in form of screencap'd articles
>goes on about how the greentext isn't an answer

abstract thought sure is hard. I understand, britbong.
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>>134236729
And its not a private decision to let it die, the courts are going to make it
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>>134236904
We get no say in this child's fate though nor do we want a say in it. But if it was my child (knowing that death is certain, treatment or not) I wouldn't want my child to die suffering with some cocktail of experimental drugs.

Read

>>134235222
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>>134236211
These are countries where its socially acceptable to target Americans, often violently.

Have fun visiting North Korea, or Somalia, while your women are getting assfucked by savages.
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>>134236262
kek your deflection game is weak. An uncodified constitution is NOT a constitution, its a legal sham. And youre mixing me up with another anon, but you were still wrong about separation of powers. Not only are all three branches part of the government, but the UK doesn't even have proper separation because your chief executive is just a member of the legislative and can be sakced at any time by his own party. Its one of the most flawed and undemocratic systems in the west, and its why once independence was achieved we created a radically different system, because it recognized how fucked up the UK one was.

Anyway its clear you're a bit of a teenage moron and you won't be able to argue based on facts
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>>134236898
Why would you spend time arguing how *neccessary* this is?

You've been taken by the only pleasure left to socialist drones - schadenfreude. "At least there's someone beneath me *I* can torture."
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>>134236999
>>134237001
See you've ran out of logical arguments and are resorting to emotional based attacks.

You've lost this argument, it must be difficult. Maybe you should stop posting.
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>>134235970
18 human patients with TK2 gene defects.

Charlie has RRM2B, less than a handful of people have had it and none have survived.

Try again faggot.

Testing on mice is what you do before you test random shit on humans. But of course you'd love to give your babies up to big pharma to be used as guinea pigs.

Then again you happily let them chop off parts of your own fucking genitals for the cosmetics industry / pharma, so to be expected really, isn't it.
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>>134236904
They're a lost ass cause. Good fucking riddance that they're being fucked by niggers and sandniggers
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Forced eugenics is a wonderful idea. Sterilise cripples, retards, defective babies etc etc
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>>134237001
>100 million Americans have diabetes

why don't you focus on the health of your own citizens before meddling in the health of other countries citizens
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>>134236898
Do you see how insane you look proudly arguing for the death of a toddler because a judge said so
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>>134236843
>>134236729
Clearly neither one of you have been following the thread, nor the case.

Most of the people arguing against the decision are afraid of government over reach and making decisions for the people.

This retard>>134236729
is drunk and was probably too busy trying to hack off a krokodile infested leg rather than an election, so he was not able to fully understand that this is about freedom to choose.

This retard>>134236843
is unfamiliar with the Shivo case. Her husband was fighting her parents to pull the plug. He was the one paying the hospital bills for years against his will, being forced by the government. Again, both cases show the horrors of governmental over reach on both sides of the spectrum, which is different from the spectrum you two are clearly on.
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>>134237046
Irrelevant. You all do not want them to have the option.
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>>134236885
>doctor has literally no right for private decision on how to spend taxpayers' money he's privately operating with
Haha lol. Enjoy your freedoms.
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>>134237104
They have the right to try the experimental treatment, and they have the money to do so. Getting forced to let your child die is a literal boot on your neck 1984 type of shit. Fuck Europoors
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>>134236120
a clear violation of the liberty to have the government spend millions trying to save some retard shitstain?
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>>134237124
Ok so, you'd rather be a lab rat for you goverment or some institution of human rights than be a lab rat of a big pharma company.
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>>134237091
You're the one accusing us of "playing God" when playing God would be defying his will that this child die with this illness.

Why did you bring it up if you didn't want me to rebuke you and show how idiotic you are?

>>134237085
Deflection? No, you are deflecting, you've been caught out being a silly billy, you can't handle that, you protest and demand that you are right and everyone else is wrong (even when they post facts) and you still would rather carry on playing the "I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG" game. Just concede defeat, why is that so difficult for you Americans to do? Are you really that fucking emotionally fragile?
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>>134237180
>be brit
>get arrested for hatespeech online
Eurofags
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>>134233222
Healthcare-for-profit is disgusting.
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>>134237085
>a radically different system
>radically different
You don't even know your own history, let alone ours.
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>>134237249
the government hasn't got to do a god damn thing but let the family leave their shithole country
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>>134237232
Are you drunk?
>taxpayers money
We've been over this, the kid has 2 million in private funding, zero cost to taxpayers
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>>134236328
Oh and btw. Terri's parents ALSO have literally no rights for private decision.

Damn, i sure love American Freedom.
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>>134237226
I haven't argued for or against this child's death. In fact I said no one in this country would want to make that decision. Or can't you read?

I'm refuting a retard that tried to use a God argument.. I would rather this child not have this illness and grow up to be a healthy young man, but unfortunately that is not the case.
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>>134237226
>being this emotionally invested in some defective baby he doesn't know who lives 4000 miles away
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>>134237180
Ah, but its typically the individuals choice to became a lazy lardass and develop diabetes.
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>>134237502
He's an American citizen now. He's your problem
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BTW for those linking articles from The Sun or any other MSM, like this retard >>134235970

>What is mitochondrial DNA depletion syndrome?

>Mitochondrial DNA depletion syndrome (MDS) refers to a group of disorders that cause affected tissues to suffer from a significant drop in mitochondrial DNA.

>The DNA is found in the mitochondria of cells – an organelle found in most cells in which respiration and energy production occur.

>This means, as in Charlie’s case, that sufferers do not get energy to their muscles, kidneys and brain.

>MDS is typically fatal in infancy and early childhood.

>There is currently no cure but some treatments have shown a reduction in symptoms.
From: https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3248426/charlie-gard-latest-news-mitochondrial-depletion-syndrome-america-treatment/


Now let's look at Wikipedia:
>Mitochondrial DNA depletion syndrome (MDS or MDDS) is any of a group of autosomal recessive disorders that cause a significant drop in mitochondrial DNA in affected tissues. Symptoms can be any combination of myopathic, hepatopathic, or encephalomyopathic.[1] These syndromes affect tissue in the muscle, liver, or both the muscle and brain, respectively. The condition is typically fatal in infancy and early childhood, though some have survived to their teenage years with the myopathic variant and some have survived into adulthood with the SUCLA2 encephalomyopathic variant.[2][3] There is currently no curative treatment for any form of MDSs, though some preliminary treatments have shown a reduction in symptoms.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_DNA_depletion_syndrome

Funny isn't it. Those journalists sure know what they're on about with this highly complex issue that they're reliably informing the public on!

(And yes they even got the fucking gene wrong lol. Everything they state is for problems with TK2. Charlie has defects in RRM2B.
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>>134237338
No. We're disgusted with the country that we thought was a decent reflection of our past. And we're now reminded as to why we left you. And the fact that you act like a jackass to anyone that tries to provide reason to let the parents try the experimental treatment on their own dime at no cost to the present powers speaks volumes in the opposite direction. We like you Brits, but you've morally fucked up here. At least let them have the fucking option.
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>>134237227
>both cases show the horrors of governmental over reach on both sides of the spectrum
it's the same thing, both "governments" came to the same conclusion, and they both intervened (the schiavo case even had different parts of the government fighting each other which led to a very long battle). it's just that the schiavo case is a lot more famous, and apparently forgotten by the likes of you who are blaming europe for this when you are more famous for it.
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>>134237480
BECAUSE THEY WERE FORCING THE HUSBAND TO USE HIS MONEY

LEAVE YOU DRUNK FUCK
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It is scientifically important to allow the parents to try this.

The treatment they want to send their baby for is experimental. A human clinical trial will present significant data opportunities otherwise less available - if it fails, then scientists/doctors try to figure out what went wrong and work on a better procedure for the next case - if it succeeds then we have a major medicinal advancement. Ruling out the ability to attempt the treatment on the grounds that it bears a high likelihood of failure negates any prospect of potential progress.

Guinea pigs are necessary for advancement.
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>>134237431
>2 million will last forever when life long round the clock treatment is required as well as paying all of the good goy doctors for their new experimental treatments .
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>>134237502
Lel, not emotionally invested, just flabbergasted at the lack of british freedom
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>>134234962
>judiciary is independent
Thank fuck my ancestors left your shitty island
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>>134237672
Then simply reach an agreement with the government: if they choose to undertake this medical expense, they will be personally liable for whatever medical expenses follow suit with the child.
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>>134237480
Me too. America is pretty much the most free and meritocratic nation in the world, with stable diversity, a strong military, high standard of living for the capable and safety nets for the undeserving.
Just might be paradise. >>134237490
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>>134233222
Not entirely pointless. He would further medical research by allowing himself to be tested on.
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>>134237672
see
>>134237641
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>>134237730
Doing this, you have NO ARGUMENT WHAT SO EVER that the government has any right to impose habeus corpus over the infant, except that you specifically believe that it should die, and you believe that the government has the obligation to carry out your opinions over the custodian's wishes
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>>134237608
Except it's not the same thing. It's actually antithetical. Both involve freedom to choose.

Her husband was her legal guardian and wanted the choice to move forward with taking out the feeding tube, and the government did not let him until he fought it in court.

The fact that you cannot see this is staggering.
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>>134234575
Wait so the legislature is not the government even though they are the metaphorical purse and the ones that write the law?

not a trolling burger, its just a very different legal philosophy from ours.
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>>134237761
>meritocratic
Settle down now, we might have freedom but our meritocracy is half way to dead
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>reading the responses from British flags in this thread
Just fucking nuke us America-kun
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>>134237630
So he basically killed his wife out of greed?
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>>134237924
You do not have the right to prolong the suffering of braindead vegetables
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>>134237602

>We

There is no "we" involved in the nature of the case. You are a nation of mongrels. Most of you don't have a drop of English blood in you. 1776 was about a civil war between Englishmen.
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>>134237980
He was her *legal guardian* and felt she couldn't be helped, it was his decision to make
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>>134233510
ya we've seen this copy pasta 20 times in the other threads.
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>>134237556
fuck that retard baby, even if he lives he's clearly a yob in the making, his parents look like welfare gypsies. What has he cost in tax money for all the legal battles and treatment that won't save his retard brain? 1 million plus? How many millions will his perpetual care cost the state in his lifetime?
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>>134234416
As it is in ours, but it is a branch of government nonetheless. After all, if they aren't a branch of government, why do they have authority to tell you what to do? What is enforcing the law if not governance? Just because you create a legal fiction in which the court is not per letter of law "part of the government" to show independence doesn't mean that it is true or logical. De facto, the court is of the government.
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>>134237730
because they will never be able to pay it. just like if they go to the US, after their money has ran out, they won't be able to afford it. it doesn't matter which country they are in, US or UK. they won't be able to afford it. we don't even know if they have jobs, they probably don't. so how would they even have the means to repay?
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>>134238020
And you don't have the right to kill a child, faggot
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>>134233222
why does anyone care if the parents want to do it and will pay for it?
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>>134238206
I don't but the courts basically do
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>>134237230
We get no say, therefore our wants are irrelevant. I want this child to live but that's not going to happen, not because of government or the courts but because of his illness.

>>134237602
Right because our doctors and courts believe that a treatment (that hasn't been tested on mice) that will fail, will cause excess pain and harm is morally wrong when the outcome (death) is still going to happen?

What the hell does that say about your warped sense of morals and ethics when you believe that exposing a child to suffering is the right thing to do, all so you can stroke your egos and say "at least we tried, even though the child suffered even more than he should have with a cocktail of drugs".

You honestly believe you have the moral high ground in this debate don't you?

>>134237721
The Judiciary in this country is independent of the government.. Why do you believe otherwise? Our courts were accused recently of being biased in favour of the government over the EU and they came out in fury over it. They are an independent judiciary.

>Thank fuck my ancestors left your shitty island
Me too, the less stupid people like you, the better!

>>134237761
And why did you link me?

>>134238188
>As it is in ours, but it is a branch of government nonetheless.
It does not answer to the government, it is fully independent. Why can't the other anon understand that?
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>>134238266
>admitting this and being proud of this level of tyranny
Oh how the mighty have fallen
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>>134238054
WE THE PEOPLE.

I dont understand why you believe that the measurement of a US citizen is based on their geneology.
Its called the melting pot for a reason, and it was more than enough to kick your countries pansy ass despite all your advantages.
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>>134238157
Yeah his parents look low class as fuck, yet another reason to pull the plug
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>>134233965
Europoors can't into constitutions
He means its not part of the central gov't, which is still beside the point
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>>134237808

wanting to use unwilling, unable to consent, humans as lab rats. disgusting and immoral.
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>>134233222
>the boy
HOW DARE YOU ASSUME THAT BABY'S GENDER YOU SHITLORD!!
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>>134238266
>he sees nothing wrong with this statement
Purge us.
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>>134235355
Wew lad, you do realise the only reason the baby is living is due to modern western medicine, not God.
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>>134237852
it took 7 years or whatever for them to finally pull the plug on her, after much arguing between different parts of your government, and then the court decided that it was detrimental for her to continue living. just like the court decision the brits had. they were just a lot more efficient in coming to the right conclusion.
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>>134238317
I despise republicanism, American ""freedom"" and America in general.
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>>134238266
something something certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness...and when a government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it
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>>134238343
>Its called the melting pot for a reason, and it was more than enough to kick your countries pansy ass despite all your advantages.
Because it's full of niggers, fighting you again (thanks for telling me your country behind your DEUS FAG flag) would be like fighting the Zulu's with blindfolds on.

Easy peasy.
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>>134238465
Yes yes we know, now go dox millenial woes and watch girls date muslims instead of you
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>>134238294
Then all that means it is a sovereignty in and of itself, it is still a government, all it means that you cucks are ruled by the courts, the queen, and the parliament. You're triple cucked slaves without real free will.
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>>134238536
See: >>134238465
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>>134237761
>56% white
Laughingbitches.jpg
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>>134238536
Your government can authorise drone strikes on US citizens on your soil without due process.

So when are you going to arm up and deal with that tyranny? What's that? You're just going to shitpost on 4chan about other countries whilst your own rapidly falls apart?

WELCOME TO THE CLUB!!!
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>>134238442
Except there was no experimental prodcedure or opportunity to have a human trial with her
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>>134238608
It's a well known fact that republicans have tiny little cocks while Monarchists have giant cocks
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>>134238648
Point being britbongs like you aren't people
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>>134237825
>muh rights
Here we go again, more arguments from liberalism.
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>>134238465
>unironically wants to live in a hellish dystopia
What in the actual fuck is wrong with you.
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>>134238630
And you're ruled by Courts, Government and the Clinton Mafia.


Sad.
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>>134237641
You use mice first faggot.

For DNA defects you also just need DNA to analyse, not a whole fucking baby. You do the analysis, develop the treatment, test it in mice, THEN humans.

Not just strap a defenceless, brain dead baby down and inject whatever the fuck you want in it because YOLO.
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>>134233222
Gotta love how the brit-cuck brigade are out in force defending their own enslavement to socialist death panels.

I'm sure your cancerous health care system has plenty of money for child tranny treatment, but attempt to save the life of a white baby? whats even the point?

If it were a muslim child, make no mistake your politicians would be tripping over each other to make every possible gesture to save the child.
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>>134237413
You don't know about the legal system of governance either in our country or yours. Yeah not having a written constitution embodied in a single document is pretty radically different from countries that do. UK doesn't have a federal vs state power balance, you don't have a separately elected executive, you have one legislative chamber compared to two, and when you did have a proper second one it was made up of semi royalty who got their seat by hereditary right! I mean for fucks sake you have a monarchy! Apart from tribal anarchy, in western democracy thats about as radically different as you're gonna get.
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>>134238560
Niggers dont own many weapons here, whites do.
Also, we dont cart them in by the boatload, we have a process where we routinely deny entry.

Have fun while you are swimming in niggers, at least we put ours in jail.
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>>134238465
Well, we do have freedom and you don't. Also you're an island of inbred brainlets
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>>134238560
>be eurofag
>get overran with illegals
>government isnt even trying to restrict how many
>cant do shit
>not even stab them in defense
>men absolute pussies
Europe is dead as fuck lmao
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>>134238783
>Not being a Republic subject to American "values" is dystopian
You've been watching too much Hollywood propaganda m8
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>>134238743
Sure you might but does it matter if you never use it for anything but fapping while you suck Williams balls?
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>>134234132
>Mohammed
>1 gun
>1 bullet

wow what a coincidence
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>>134233222
at the end of the day, it shouldn't be the government's decision. end of story
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>>134238343

Again, you didn't beat anybody. Englishmen fought Englishmen. You are a parasite -- probably some sort of Teuto-Mick hybrid -- who came afterwards and adopted the constitution and country which our people set up for you.
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>>134238560
>says the american airstrip
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>>134238872
Not to mention if it wasn't for newer African Immigrants their numbers would decline in USA.
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>>134238888
Republicanism inevitably results in the melting pot. Your tiny little brain can't comprehend that.
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>>134238817
I love how many Americucks come out on the attack of something that Brits have zero control over.

>>134238872
Good thing your whites will be killed quickly and are a minority, not only in your cities but in your country as a whole.

>>134238803
I'm out of this thread, Americans are so far gone on the stupidity levels that killing them would be a mercy to them. Like the death of Charlie Gard, when brain damage is this bad the only solution is death. Sad but it has to be done.
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>>134238803
>YOLO
>literal Twitter meme from 5 years ago
Pal, take a long walk off a short pier.
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>>134238817
Ironically it's actually the americans in this thread ADVOCATING socialised healthcare
since they're A okay with spending tens of millions of tax payer money pounds keeping a vegetable '''alive'''
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>>134233222
>deciding a kid should die rather than take the slim chance that they could live
>which won't cost taxpayers anything if they wanted to attempt it
Don't even fucking try to act like you're better than them, Britbitch. You're so cucked your government probably pre-approved your post
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>>134238054
>we wuz washington
Can't make this shit up
13% of americans come from the mayflower alone
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>>134233222
They should have converted to Islam.
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>>134238933
>Sure you might but does it matter if you never use it for anything but fapping while you suck Williams balls?

Whoa bro, that's not true. They also fuck their family members which is why Britts look like cartoon characters.
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>parents want to come to US to try an experimental treatment
>bong government wouldn't allow it
bet if the baby was brown they would have
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>>134238343
>unashamed civics
This is who we're arguing with. Genuine liberals whove convinced themselves they're "right wing" because they let thenselves be cucked international conglomerates and rootless finsnciers instead of a monarch. What is the point.
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Democrats are going to demand that a million dying African niglets and their families be given permanent residency thanks to the fucking precedent the GOP is setting. Might have been the plan all along.
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>>134238895
>be americuck
>greentext falsehoods to make himself feel better
>get shot
>pay doctors bill of 10 billion dollars for some stitches
>get shot
>get diabetes
>die
>pay another 40 trillion for hospital bills and a crane to haul his fat arse into a grave
>get shot again

See I can do that too.
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>>134233222
>How retarded are Americans?
Not as retarded as the two idiots who fell for his scam.

Medicine scams are a diamond dozen here. If you turn on American TV, you are plastered with ads for medicines and supplements that either don't work or will actively make you sick. Same goes for unhealthy procedures for weight loss and disproven diets for dick growth.

Not our fault two retards got conned by one of our likely-jewish conmen. You can't trust Doctors to save your life up until the moment that they're forced to.
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>>134238895
>>134238888


>be unarmed American white woman in pyjamas reporting a rape
>get shot by police officer Mohammad the Somalian
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>>134238888
>being this delluded

jeez, Americans truly are the scum of the earth. I'm not even British and nearly everyone i know despises you guys. Loud, obnoxious, drooling retards who have no personalisty nor culture other than "muh freedom". Jesus, so pathetic.
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>>134238961
>WE WAZ COLONISTS

God you britts really will steal any culture/history you can
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>>134238721
so? the courts came to the same conclusion, for the same reason; it was detrimental to the patient. that is all that matters in these cases, like the hippocratic oath.
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>>134238817
HOW DO YOU FIX BRAIN DEATH? YOU STUPID FUCK

FFs I knew Americans were retarded but this really takes the fucking cake.

The doc is a FRAUD for pretending he has a "miracle cure". We rightfully tell frauds and scammers to fuck right off.

Especially when that entails using a live baby as a test subject for millions of shekels.

Less than a handful of people have had RRM2B defects. Any scientist worth their salt would do this shit for FREE, any data from this sort of shit would be a bloody goldmine.

But of course that's the issue here isn't it, and why Americans are pushing this so hard. Pure, fucking greed.

If they succeed with this, anyone's babies will be fair game for any sort of snake oil "miracle" cure that jew docs come up with. Just like how they tell you to chop off parts of your babies genitals for "benefits". You're fucking monsters.
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>>134238973
>Doesn't realise his planes can't legally take off
>Doesn't realise we have bases in the USA
>Doesn't even realise that our flag is on one his state flags
lel...
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Nupol
>lets post all day about how immigrants are scum, italians and spanish aren't white, kill all niggers, gas all jews, slavs are subhuman, women are evil and need the rope
But killing one retard foreign baby who has cost the government over a million? FUCKING MONSTERS!!!!!
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>>134233222
>Multiple doctors have assessed the boy

The UK is a medical backwater. What your doctors say is irrelevant.
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>>134239139
>bong government wouldn't allow it

>Government
>Government
>Government
I give up, I honestly do. You can all troll each other.
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>>134238798

Well, for one, the courts are just part of our government and we're honest about that fact, instead of saying "well the courts aren't government, they're just the OTHER ivory tower cocksuckers that rule us- totally not working with those government types!"


And we're working on that Clinton Mafia.

But allow me to BTFO the farce of your "Super totally bloody independent Court that answers to no-one".

What is the duty of the Court? To enforce the law.

What is the role of the Parliament, AKA, the Government? To write the law.

I rest my case.
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>>134239021
That's hilarious coming from a literal melting pot.
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>>134238465
Evola hit the nail on the head when it comes to burgers.
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>>134233879
>The doctors decided. The court agreed.
The doctors and the court can decide to not use government funds for treatment.

The doctors and the court have NO AUTHORITY to prevent the parents from seeking treatment at their own expense, or the expense of others who volunteer.

I think the kid is gone and should be allowed to die. But doctors and courts "deciding" something outside the bounds of their authority makes me want to burn a courthouse to the ground.
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>>134238961
Wrong again. Scandinavian/French descendant.

Americans built this country. All England wanted to do was leach money from "The New World" while refusing to give us any representation.

So we kicked your ass, and made a better country. Now, you are still sucking your leaders teats, while they sell you out (suprise suprise) for their own benefit.
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>>134239237
>But killing one retard foreign baby who has cost the government over a million?

If they don't like paying for the disabled maybe they shouldn't have socialized medicine. Bootlicker.
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>>134237860
No, executive, legislative and judiciary are respectively called Government, Parliament, and Magistrature/Judiciary in Europe
Collectively they represent the three powers of the State, and with every other state-owned organization they are the State/national/public/collective institutions
It's more of a semantic misunderstanding than anything else in this thread at this point
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>>134238465
>t. Mohammad
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>>134239231
Yes yes, we are kind enough to let you have your fun. We also left you a few islands after dismantling your empire.
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>>134239248

American healthcare is who can shill this retarded medicine to the retarded American general public the hardest.

>having big pharma advertising new products on tv

your healthcare is a jewish joke.
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>>134233222
The
kid
WILL
die.

Just let the little fucker die in piece.
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>>134239248
>What your doctors say is irrelevant.
And the American doctors that came along with the European doctors that agree with UK doctors..

They are backwater too?

>>134239307
The courts in this country are independent, please learn that before ever commenting again, we are not the USA, we will never be a 50% white nation full of feral niggers and cuckoldry enabling.

Deal with it, sorry go pester France, they have twice the number of muslims we do and are on equal cuck footing with the USA, go suck off Macron's little smeg dick. Go do that.
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>>134239379
What is BUPA?
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>>134239319
>implying the US isnt the most irreparable melting pot thats ever existed

but hey, Americans have such a diverse heritage, right? I dont like Brits, but you guys are the fucking worst.
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>>134239099

British Americans were 100% of America during the Revolution; they are now only 9%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Americans

By the way I ought to have quoted Ben Franklin's comments in reference to the ludicrous remark "I dont understand why you believe that the measurement of a US citizen is based on their geneology." He said that even Germans ought not to be let in -- only the English:

"Which leads me to add one Remark: That the Number of purely white People in the World is proportionably very small. All Africa is black or tawny. Asia chiefly tawny. America (exclusive of the new Comers) wholly so. And in Europe, the Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted, who with the English, make the principal Body of White People on the Face of the Earth. I could wish their Numbers were increased. And while we are, as I may call it, Scouring our Planet, by clearing America of Woods, and so making this Side of our Globe reflect a brighter Light to the Eyes of Inhabitants in Mars or Venus, why should we in the Sight of Superior Beings, darken its People? why increase the Sons of Africa, by Planting them in America, where we have so fair an Opportunity, by excluding all Blacks and Tawneys, of increasing the lovely White and Red? But perhaps I am partial to the Complexion of my Country, for such Kind of Partiality is natural to Mankind."
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>>134239298
>abloo bloo bloo our courts are not a part of the government
you're right, if the baby was brown the (((courts))) would have allowed him to come here unhindered
go fuck yourself you worthless paki
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>>134239379
What is BUPA
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>>134233222
I would charge a tank with a broom if it meant there was a sliver of a chance to save my child. Why not let them try this experimental treatment? It's not like they're using the government to pay for it, they're on their own money.
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>>134239226
What is the worst that can happen? The treatment does fucking nothing and the little veghead expires. What is the problem? His pain and suffering? If he's braindead, those don't exist- and there's no suffering to be had.

The best that can happen is that it works- even a little bit, say enough to turn him into a barely functional tard- and that alone would be a major medical breakthrough.

If he's fucking braindead there is no reason NOT to use him as a guinea pig.

Fucking retarded "ethics" like this only holds humanity back.
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>>134239496
Well the world owes you a great deal America, your cuckoldry fetish, your black lives matter, your Israel enabling, your liberalism and leftism.

Well done! Thank you for killing off more white people than we could ever hope to. You truly are a gift to this planet.
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>>134239507
Good, stay on your pathetic little island.
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>>134234400
>A chance at life
>Medical research
>Disgusting
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>>134239521
>we will never be a 50% white nation full of feral niggers and cuckoldry enabling.
Wew...
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>>134239320
Absolutely correct.

Look at the result of the American experiment: a retarded passive population ruled over by monetary powers. Wow, it's almost as if most people are fucking idiots who have to be forbidden from voting and must be kept in line.
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>>134239552
>Gets called out
>Can't handle it

lol.
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Ah yes american 'doctors'

The ones that cut babies dick tips off at birth
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>>134239527
Google it fag
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>>134239732
The only of them alive is the middle one, he's in prison.

The rest have been drone striked in Syria so you're gonna need some new material.

Lel...
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>>134239219
We're talking aboutthe hippocratic oath amongst two societies that allow doctors to do this, and its not considered a violation of the hippocratic oath

Massive keks
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>>134239219
>the courts came to the same conclusion, for the same reason;
Except that's not true. The argument hinged on Teri not wanting to live like this, something she could have articulated during her entire adult life before becoming a vegetable. That's what the court ruled, that this is what SHE wanted, not the government.

Try reading the case before commenting on it.
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>>134239359

The "Americans" who built the real America were pure-bred Englishmen. The "Americans" who squat on their achievements today are a mere hodgepodge from all over the world. The only reason your wicked country has not yet collapsed is because of the vestiges of what we gave to you. But the collapse, along with the petrodollar, central banking, and your welfare-warfare system, will come soon - rest assured of that. You are a people mentally unfit to uphold civilisation.
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Americans I've got a super secret cure but this comment box is too small to contain its recipe. Forward me $3 million and I'll cure the boy like magic
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>>134239681
LAD
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>>134239806
At least American babies have dicks
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>>134237104
I'm starting to understand the mentality that has doomed your country to the fate it so willingly awaits. I just hope the U.S. isn't forced to bail your asses out again.
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>>134239521
Do I really have to spell it out to you? The government writes the law. The court has to enforce the law. Therefore the courts are ultimately beholden to the government and are agents of it, despite what bullshit you may say. "Independence" only means the courts cannot be unduly influenced for political reasons and is meant to show the court as an impartial, disinterested body. We do that too, but we still admit that the courts are part of the government because THEY FUCKING ENFORCE THE LAWS THE GOVERNMENT WRITES.

If your courts are really independent, are they able to directly contravene your laws? And if so, what is the point of your government at all?
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>>134239903
Uh nice comeback
I think
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>>134235222
Not only is your post factually incorrect but you are missing the central issue up for discussion. The treatment could be snakeoil. The issue being discussed is whether the government should have the right to force someone, who has committed no crime, to die the way they want.
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>>134239542
This has been debunked a million times over, newfag. The Franklin quote is mere anecdote. At least lurk for a day or two before posting this tired old stuff.
>>134239681
>your Israel enabling
Good work creating it by the way. Jesus, refuting british "people" is too easy
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>>134239077
>ignoring the potential for suffering
Yes, anyone can make a moral decision between life and death if you reduce it to that like an ignorant cunt.
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>>134239859
>all the mulsims in london are ded or in prison
LAD...WEW...
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>>134239888
It's obviously not a cure for being a jealous faggot or you would've used it already I'm sure.
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>>134233222
>Oy vey goy there's a special treatment! Just keep paying me and we'll cure the boy

The American doctor offered to treat Charlie for free by the way

This is about the UK not wanting the absolute incompetence of their doctors to be revealed to the British public
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>>134233222
Just fucking let it die and make a new one.
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>>134239298
bruv wash your feet and read dem books innit, judiciary is part of the guv senpai
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>>134239859
>UK 5% muslim and gaining
>US .9% muslim, literally dont see them even in LA
Please dont seriously go this way brit, I almost feel bad for you about it
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>>134239884
I dont fight for the Petrodollar, or the Federal reserve, or a over-reaching medical care system.
I do fight for the rights that are guarunteed to American citizens.

Its a Constitutional thing, im not suprised you dont understand.
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>>134239899
Want me to post pictures of your cities? Or the Islamic beheadings on your streets or the shootings inside military barracks, hell we can play this game of ping pong all night, I'll win though but we can play it if you want. I'm quite tired.

>>134239912
Then take a hard long look in the mirror and you'll see what we see when we look at the utter fucking state of your country and your disgusting people who are the ones that actually deserve to die, not this child.

>>134239952
INDEPENDENT JUDICIARY!!! LEARN IT BITCH TITS AND STOP POSTING!!!


>>134239903
Not when 90% of it is cut off and put into foreskin face creams.

>Americans lecturing us about morality of babies
HAH!
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>>134239714


>using unwilling unconsenting children to experiment treatments with unknown outcomes on.

yes. it's disgusting and immoral. basically saying this kid is fucked lets try all of our shit on him, no idea what it will do, but fuck it right?.
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>>134239400
interesting, thank you.

Personally, as a person in medschool, i'm incredibly appalled that this highly theoretical treatment was offered in the first place. It's absurdly early to think it would even work, practically the equivalent of "well chemo treated lung cancer, so it should treat COPD okay" on the basis that they are the same organ.

I understand that Britain doesnt want to pay for the kid for the next 3 years till he expires anyway, but it seems cold to me not to let the parents leave if there was an understanding that the kid was 100% their problem now. Frankly I think the kid should be allowed to pass, but i dont think it should be a bureaucracy's right to pull the plug on a human life like that, even though i''ve seen it done to a homeless person during residency.
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>>134240079
Your tiny little American dicks get mutilated at birth as a sign of your loyalty to your Jewish masters.

Let's be real America has been nothing but cancer to Europe. The American republic deserves to die
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>>134239994
It wasn't a comeback, just the truth
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>>134240056
>Good work creating it by the way. Jesus, refuting british "people" is too easy
The UN created it, we tried to destroy it. Look it up, Jewish Insurgency.

>>134240075
The ones in that picture, can you not read?
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>>134240128
That's what I thought Tbh

Not like you have any real attachment to a braindead baby that can't even see you
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>>134240164
>Or the Islamic beheadings
Why not just compare percent of citizens who are muslim? Seems a lot more to the purpose than your hysterical memeing
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>>134240056

Here it is in one of about ten thousand academic books which quote it.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=raS9TqUFb94C&pg=PA523&dq=%22Number+of+purely+white+People+in+the+World+is+proportionably+very%22&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22Number%20of%20purely%20white%20People%20in%20the%20World%20is%20proportionably%20very%22&f=false

And here it is in one of every edition of Benjamin Franklin's works in the original:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=SsJJAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA320&dq=%22Number+of+purely+white+People+in+the+World+is+proportionably+very%22&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22Number%20of%20purely%20white%20People%20in%20the%20World%20is%20proportionably%20very%22&f=false

In short, you don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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>>134240153
>5%
>Gaining
"nope.

You had a muslim president, twice. LOL....
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>>134240215
>Let's be real America has been nothing but cancer to Europe.

Quite the opposite actually, we left you behind a long time ago and you've just spent these last decades riding our coattails. Europe needs America, America doen't need Europe kek.
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>>134240181
>Letting baby die because you didnt want to try and save him.
k
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>>134233222
>British doctors
>human

Pick only one.
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>>134239681
>England, land of zionist churchill
>is criticizing supporting israel when they started that shit together with us
If you were German? Sure, great bantz? But from a brit? Holy shit look in the mirror
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>>134240316
Better than having a muslim daddy
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>>134240354
America has always been a burden on Europe. Your retarded Amerishit culture, Amerishit republic, Amerishit people
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>>134240365

>using a baby as a lab rat

k
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>>134240246
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Balfour
read it if you know how
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>>134240270
It's more about the principle of it being up to the state to decide the fate of a child instead of his parents.

But you guys are good little subjects who don't mind being stripped of every last liberty.
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>>134240283
You've had 5 Islamic beheadings in the streets of the USA. In broad daylight.

Fucking lol you're such a sad act country, the entire world looks at you and laughs and you don't even realise it, we know we're not liked, that's not our desire. You? Your nation and your people begged and seek to be praised and loved, this need for connection with everyone and this need to be worshiped and loved, the vanity in your people and you're blinded by your own narcissism, blinded to the reality that the world absolutely despises you.

We're not blind, we like being hated. You don't and it's so sad but so funny.
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>>134239307
This Brit is either incredibly dense or a master troll.
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>>134240385
>The same Churchill that executed Zionists
lel?

>>134240486
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Mandatory_Palestine

Read it.
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>>134240270
Yep, he is braindead, so let him die with dignity, and hope that the next one will be healthy.
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>>134236728
He's brain dead, his cells aren't getting energy, and his DNA is unable to repair itself. He's a bag of deteriorating organs at this point, and the only reason he's still considered alive is because there are machines going through the motions of life for him.
Good luck curing brain death.
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>>134240442
This is how one breaks a Bong.
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>>134240308
I said his quote was an merely a statement of anecdote, not that it was spurious. fucking kek
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>>134240154

Your constitution is a mere republication of the English one. Its excellence is the only thing keeping the vestiges of your country afloat. The debt you, an immigrant into a country which my people built, is unfathomably enormous, but in the true fashion of the modern immigrant you don't possess a shred of gratitude. You are the typical neo-American.
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>>134240452
By that logic all medical procedures that have a high chance of failing should be ignored. We should just people die and not advance as a species. Whatever you dont have an argument. This is a child who never got to live life we have the moral obligation to try and save him.
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>>134240442
Should have left you to your own devices in WWI and WWII tbqh
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>>134240646
Europe would've been better off that way.
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>>134240577
>Courts are government
>Gets provided with facts that they are not
>Can't handle it
>WAH WAH WAH I'M RIGHT, U WRONG, GOVERNMENT IS COURT!!! I'M RIGHT MUH HERITAGE MUH GUNZ MUH FREEDUMB TO GET DRONE STRIKED AND HAVE MUH FORESKIN CHOPPED OFF AND SOLD TO OPRAH WINFREY!!!!

Please.
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>>134240316
And we elected Trump as a result, you still have a muslim mayor.
>its not rising
> http://www.ibtimes.com/2016-uk-muslim-population-more-3m-expected-rise-more-asylum-seekers-2288027
>With high birthrates among the demographic, some Londonneighborhoods are nearly 50 percent Muslim and are expected to be majority Muslim in the next 10 years, according to the Office for National Statistics.

Its just sad man
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>>134240442
>America has always been a burden on Europe.

Kek, America has never needed Europe for anything. You're like niggers desperately clinging to us, it's pathetic.
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>>134240617

Do you understand what an anecdote is? It isn't an opinion. What on earth are you actually trying to say?
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>>134239345

"In England the judges should have independence to protect the people against the crown. Here the judges should not be independent of the people, but be appointed for not more than seven years. The people would always re-elect the good judges."
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>>134240636
We're grateful for the Common Law and the Magna Carta, jeeves. Thanks for nothing else.
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>>134240586
and none of ths would have happened without the declaration
>w-we only wanted them to haev part of a state
lol
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>>134240646
You genuinely should. I would love to have been born in the timeline where you loudmouthed cunts actually managed to keep yourselves to yourselves. What a utopia it must be.
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>>134237980
She was already brain dead, and had expressed that she wanted to have the plug pulled if she ever was brain dead. Her parents decided o go against her and her hustband's wishes, and keep her brainless body alive for years after she went braindead.
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>>134234394
Hey at least we wont be needing ID to look at porn you fucking crooked teethed wanker.
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>>134240745
Polish is the second most spoken language in this country.

So thanks Poland for whitening us up. We get no refugees now.

And Trump won't do shit, you're fucked.

>>134240826
White paper you idiot, also the UN and Germany wanted a zionist state, Hitler himself wanted it.

So be silent.
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>>134240702
This is true, Germany would've won and we'd all be better for it but you enlisted us instead of admitting defeat and we fucked answered the call so we're both gonna sit in the blame for that one for eternity
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>>134239638
He has a GENE DEFECT.

You don't fix those by just going YOLO and trying random shit you idiot.

You do DNA Analysis, at most you need a sample. When you actually have a treatment, that has actually been TESTED (and no, not for an entirely different fucking gene), THEN you try the treatment, when you have some medically sound reasoning for doing so.

Not just because "it might help a bit lol".

Also what happens when they then want to try this shit on non-brain dead ones?

Again I'm not surprised Americans are pushing for this since you happily chop bits off your babies genitals because some snake oil shekelsman told you to.

The UK courts are usually retarded, but in this case they're rightfully telling a scammer and fraud to fuck right off.
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>>134240644

there are ways of going about treatments to safeguard humans from unknown consequences. these treatments they are proposing have not been tested on mice let alone humans, there is no way any right minded individual can think using a baby as a medium to test your experimental treatments on is an appropriate, morally and medically ethical thing to do.


you don't have an argument.
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>>134239867
>The argument hinged on Teri not wanting to live like this
so we agree that they sided with teri, the patient, just like the uk court sided with their patient. ok then.
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>>134240775
An anecdote is a short bit of information or story about a real incident can't imagine why you thought it meant spurious

The point is that your evidence is anecdotal and therefore worthless as evidence for a general statement
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>>134240246
>conveniently tries to sidestep reality by arguing about "the one's in that one picture there"
WEW
L
A
D
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>>134240904
Yeah cause Polish people have a 3.0+ birthrate

Where's the polish mayor of london?
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>>134240770
Aside from your entire population; and all of the ideas that formed the foundation of your philosophy; and all those Frogs and Spics that made a nuisance of themselves so putting down your rebellion wasn't financially feasible?
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>>134240878
Absolutely. America is a retarded cuck nation, always has been. They don't realise that abstracting the government from the white people who developed said government eventually leads to Mexico 2.0. Europe must cast off American culture if it is to survive
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>>134240636
My family has lived here for over a hundred years, we dont owe you faggots a cent.

And let me get this straight. Everyone that moved here in the 1700's were the ones responsible for establishing this country. They did this by a violent overthrow of the unrepresented dictatorship. Yet, England is responsible for America's growth, and americans owe some form of debt to their previous tyrants?

Have fun with your monarchy you retarded plebian.
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>>134240612
This. For FUCKS SAKE please read: https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/rrm2b-related-mitochondrial-dna-depletion-syndrome-encephalomyopathic-form-with-renal-tubulopathy#genes

Again, Americans. HOW DO YOU "CURE" BRAIN DEATH?
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>>134240636
>Your constitution is a mere republication of the English one. It
fucking kek
I don't recall our constitution being overridden against free speech
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>>134240193
It all boils down on what constitutes or not overtreatment/therapeutic futility in the end, the fact that it's about a little baby just emphasizes even more the results of the doctors' evaluation on the public desu
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>>134240823

In other words, the entirety of your civilisation.

You might have added, the language which you speak, and the blood that built the real America.

"In the matter of politics—I don’t go much with the younger crowd. I’m more interested in keeping the present 300-year-old culture-germ in America unharmed, than in trying out any experiments in “social justice”. Smith, to my mind, is a direct exponent of the newer-immigration element—the decadent & unassimilable hordes from Southern Europe & the East whose presence in large numbers is a direct & profound menace to the continued growth of the Nordic-American nation we know. Some people may like the idea of a mongrel America like the late Roman Empire, but I for one prefer to die in the same America that I was born in. Therefore, I’m against any candidate who talks of letting down the bars to stunted brachycephalic South-Italians & rat-faced half-Mongoloid Russian & Polish Jews, & all that cursed scum! You in the Middle West can’t conceive of the extent of the menace. You ought to see a typical Eastern city crowd—swart, aberrant physiognomies, & gestures & jabbering born of alien instincts." - H. P. Lovecraft
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>>134239749
>defends his retarded courts when trying to get a white baby killed
we are literally offering a possible solution and you morons refuse to let them try it for the dumbest of reasons
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>>134240995
>The UK courts are usually retarded, but in this case they're rightfully telling a scammer and fraud to fuck right off.

>offer novel treatment for free
>'es a right scammuh mate

Britbong intelligence
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>>134241060
You have no idea what you're saying do you? Its like listening to my little nephew babble about fucking nonsense.
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>>134241122
>Aside from your entire population
Do you realize how stupid you sound? The ones who left would have been the Americans. Why would they credit the ones who stayed behind?
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>>134241042
Letting the baby just die is worse. Nice try. I was born prematurely myself and my parents could of abandoned me im not perfect but im alive. So get fucked.
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>>134241240
You can't be serious
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>>134241321

>possible solution to being brain dead, we've never tested it on anyone or thing before, but it's possible even though we have no evidence
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The fucking Britbong in this thread has made me no longer sad that their country is going to be an islamic caliphate by 2020
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>>134240814
I wonder how that would work out in a mafia-ridden area in, let's say, Sicily, for example
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>>134241060

You are conflating the scientific method with a question of moral values (what it means to be an American). "Anecdotal" and "empirical" have absolutely nothing to do with this matter.
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>>134241304
>quote a based American in an attempt to prove that Americans aren't based

wew lad
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>>134241478
it's banter. Americans and brits squabbling is proof that we love each other.
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>>134241352
>anecdote: A short amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person.
That nonsense babbling must run in the family
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>>134241367
Stop moaning about mexicans then lad, they're American.
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>>134241323
>novel treatment

FOR BRAINDEATH?

Fucking idiots.

Seriously the news orgs are outright copying Wikipedia and you believe them?
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>>134239226
It is the parents decision, not the govt, doctors or courts. You guys cant even look at porn anymore without your govts permission. Get fucked faggot.
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Charlie Tard needs switching off, sick of this news story.
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>>134241390

>comparing being born prematurely that we know isn't a death sentence and can be remedied is anything like being born servery brain damaged /dead with no known treatments except some quack doctors experimental treatment that has never been tested on any living creature before

ok. maybe being born prematurely fucked with your reasoning and logic skills. get fucked yourself faggot.
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>>134241423
I most certainly am. You can't even manage freedom of speech. So much for the grand english legal tradition
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>>134241240

Those anti-free-speech laws are a modern innovation that violates our constitution, not corroborates it.
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>>134241390
Being born premature =/= being brain dead
Brain death is death.
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>>134241390
>another yank completely ignorant of the situation weighing in with his opinion
Kek you fucking people. So god damn predictable.
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>>134241563

"Nothing must disturb my undiluted Englishry — God Save The King!" - H. P. Lovecraft
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>>134241502
>You are conflating the scientific method with a question of moral values (what it means to be an American).
There is no morality involved in a discussion that turns purely on the face of facts. You made a general claim about ancestry in American and used some personal description as evidence. Unfortunately, that's not acceptable in real countries.
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>>134241730
Its worth trying no matter how small the chance which you dont seem to understand. All life is precious. I bet you support Abortion too you soulless beast.
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>>134241736

The only reason why your free speech laws have not yet been violated is the sheer size of the United States. It is extremely difficult to get an amendment changed, whereas here it only takes a single parliament to do whatever they like. Don't puff yourself up on any supposed virtue you have.
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>>134241873
I share a surname with the Yorkshire ripper, you think I'd disagree with that?
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>>134241985

t.christcuck
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>>134241909

The Ben Franklin quote is about the essence of being American. The question of the ancestry of Americans has nothing to do with that quote. You can go to go Wikipedia (as I showed earlier) to get the basic facts about that. Only 9% of Americans describe themselves as having any English ancestry now. That is simply a fact.
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>>134241873
>declaration of nordic ancestry by a second rate writer
>oi m8 he one of us innit?
fucking kek
>>134241750
Wrong, restrictions of speech in your country have been around for centuries
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>>134241639
>about
It's a literal fucking quote from an essay he penned.

You're too far gone.
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>>134241985
The chance is zero. Once your brain dies, you're not getting it back.
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