The 2000 election

>>134227287
likely about the same as it does now, except maybe no Obama

>>134227381
That's unlikely, if Al gore won there won't be bush era tax-cuts and no iraq war. it would be a lot different.

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>>134227287
National debt paid off, no tax cut for the rich, no 9/11, no Iraq War, no Great Republican Recession. I cannot describe enough how much Bush and the GOP fucked America

>>134227287

He would have been impeached due to his family's connections with the KGB

>>134227287
china and indian would be raping our econmy

>no 9/11 if Gore won

who the fuck believes this shit?

Any money saved from the Iraq war not happening would be wasted ruining the economy with carbon restrictions.

>>134228292
No one likes Bush around here obamaleaf but you certainly exaggerate

no 9/11, bad economy we get Trump or a Trump like candidate on 2004.

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>>134230469
All these GOP establishment shills love him but they have to dindu his existence. It'll be the same with Trump

>>134230856
>All these GOP establishment shills love him

Same people that hate trump

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>>134227888
>>134228292
>>134230351

>People unironically believe Gore wouldn't have gone into Iraq

>>134231144
All the same who loved Bush but now deny it. It will no different with Trump.

Trump is the GOP establishment.

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>>134231428
He would not have. The GOP Iraq War was a proud Bush GOP endeavor.

>>134231428
This lol, I can't imagine having that manbearpig chasing nut in the WH on 9/11 but he might've just nuked the entire Middle East to end dependence. Or if he didn't and Saddam were still around we could watch livestreams of Kurds being gassed every day.

>>134231428
He was against the war before it has begun

>>134231909
Dependence on fossil fuels

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>>134231936
Republicans always have to dindu their own actions and project onto others.

>>134228292
There also wouldn't be a climate of hate.

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>>134232091
good point

We'd likely be better off, but not because Gore was necessarily so great or because Democrats were the right choice, but because the Bush administration was just that bad. If you could have had someone like Romney in 2000, man oh man...

>>134228292
entirely shit analysis, crash would have still happened, 9/11 would have still happened, the only difference is it would been blamed on Democrats instead and Obama would not have even run.

>>134232091
you mean leftists wouldn't be so hateful?

>>134227287
No 9/11 because Clinton tried to warn W, and he ignored it. Gore would have listened.

Clean energy.

No debts.

No >muh Israel wars.

Neocohenservatism extinct.

Best timeline.

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>>134234676
Nah Republicans don't take national security seriously and can't be trusted with keeping America safe.

>>134234798
debts would likely be higher

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>>134234798
this

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>>134234913
Debt would be lower.

Republicans are retards with money. They think tax cuts for the rich pay for themselves with trickle down magic.

>>134234913
How faggot? No tax cuts for the rich and no wars. Single payer would not have happened yet. There is no way debt would be higher.

>>134235069
he's an idiot

>>134227287
If you play EU4 it's exactly what happens when you have an average ruler instead of a shit one

>>134234798
having a different President would not have somehow magically stopped the attack it's not like they are collecting intel themselves idiot

>>134227287
The US would be in the same boat as Europe right now

>>134234913
>no iraq war
>debts higher somehow

>>134235069
If you actually think we wouldn't have gone to war you are a complete idiot, and ontop the of wars he would have spent shit loads on social programs

>>134231936
politicians say alot of things.

>>134235157
Actually foreign policy and terrorism are the President's domain. You would know this if you weren't a mouth breathing nigger proud boy.

Kiss my ring negro.

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>>134231909
>[if] Saddam were still around we could watch livestreams of Kurds being gassed every day.

I would payperview that shit everyday and jack off to those little shits struggling for air. Goddamnit I miss Saddam.

>>134235263
>he believes we wouldnt have gone to war

>>134235298
no 911 = no wars

This is not hard.

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>>134235157
Bush ignored repeated warnings you moron. He went on vacation for a month in August.

https://fas.org/irp/cia/product/pdb080601.pdf

He spent all his time fishing and golfing.

Sound familiar?

two words

LOCK BOX

>>134235378
yes the President is personally conducting surveillance. If Clinton caught Osama after the first attack it would have never happened

>>134235187

>no amerimutt kikeslave meddling in middle-east
>Gaddafi alive
>Saddam alive
>Assad not in a civil war
>no king obongo
>no refugees into europe by kikes

The world would be a lot better, faggot.

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>>134235395
He's too young and retarded to know how hard Bush and Cheney pushed for the Iraq War. Why are Republican children such autistic dindus?

>>134235448
it is the job of intelligence agencies to thwart these attacks, if you think the President specifically tells them what to look into you are an idiot.

>>134227287
The earth would be the same temperature it is now

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>>134235537
It's Bill Clinton's fault Republicans can't keep America safe.

Holy shit Republicans are the biggest fucking dindus ever.

Bush was warned BIN LADEN TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES

https://fas.org/irp/cia/product/pdb080601.pdf


He ignored it and went fishing.

>>134227287
People forget he is a hardcore neo liberal, basically Clinton 2.0.
Clinton repealed the Glass–Steagall act and is there for at least as responsible for the 2007 crash as bush's tax cuts.
Basically Bush light, slightly less war, slightly corporatism and no christian fundamentalism.

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>>134235664
He doesn't know the President is the Commander-in-chief. Holy shit you're retarded.

https://fas.org/irp/cia/product/pdb080601.pdf

Fuck this is the right leaning NY Post.

>>134235595
I am older than you you utter faggot, and actually have an understanding of foreign policy. If you think Gore wouldn't have been pushed into the same wars you lack any reasoning skills

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>>134227287
Like pic related

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>>134235791
George Bush: we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&nohtml5=False

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>>134235864
Al Gore would not have. That's why you're mad. You have to dindu Bush's fuckups onto others.

Republican national security pic related

https://fas.org/irp/cia/product/pdb080601.pdf

that headline wew >>134235848

>>134235848
and? the president personally do anything in these situations . I work in the intel community the different commands determine their own focuses and responses

>>134235922
still Clinton who fucked up the regulations for Wall Street

>>134235390
WTF is that real?

>>134236075
I don't give a fuck about George bush, I just can't stand utter idiots who have no understanding of any of this

>>134235729
PLEASE FOR FUCKS SAKE GET SOME NEW IMAGES.

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>>134236118
> I work in the intel community

No you don't. You're just an autistic retard dinduing Bush right now.

The president has nothing to do with the intel briefings he's given everyday! Holy shit you're retarded bro.

>>134235893
>Boss...
>They're just kids...

>>134228292
Young fags are adorable, now scurry off to youtube and watch videos of Clinton, Gore and tons of other democrats all promoting war with Iraq before and after 9/11.

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>>134227287
>It would look any different
Same things would be happening except at different periods. He was about as shitty as Bush and that is a mean feat.

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>>134236369
Republican President
Republican House
Republican Senate

90% of opposition came from liberals. Liberals were basically called traitors for opposing the war.

WE DINDU NUFFIN

Said it before. I'll say it again. Right wing retards are the biggest fucking dindus on the planet. Nothing comes close.

>>134228292
>paying off all your debt is good

>>134227287
>No Bush tax cuts.
>Deficit is largely under control.
>9/11 still happens.
>No Iraq War.
>The Global War on Terrorism is reduced in scope.
>Afghanistan still takes as long as it did.
>The Great Recession still happens.
>The 2008 election could go either way.
>If a conservative Republican wins, we are hobbling along to this day.
>If a Democrat wins, it's a little bit better.
After a President Gore, it's pretty difficult to tell what might happen.

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>>134236369
>>134236599
Look at those Impeach Bush signs. Must be Republicans amirite retard.

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Those damn liberal traitors!

- Fox news circa 2004

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>>134235664
>it is the job of intelligence agencies to thwart these attacks, if you think the President specifically tells them what to look into you are an idiot.
But there needs to be someone at the top who knows what's going on if intelligence agencies are going to use information effectively. One of the biggest problems that was made clear by 9/11 was that the different intelligence agencies didn't coordinate effectively with one another, which is why the DHS was set up. Pre-911 especially it was essential for the people in charge to take an active role in setting goals for the intelligence agencies.

Bush was told that Bin Laden was gearing up for an attack on the US. And he did nothing with the information. We'll never know if Gore would actually have managed to prevent 9-11 but based on the Clinton administration's attitude it seems likely that he would have taken it a lot more seriously

>In an alternate timeline where Al gore won in florida
>implying that's an alternate timeline
pic related

>>134236599
both sides of the aisle were pushing for it for years, war with Iraq was inevitable no matter who was in charge
>>134236882
strange how they all but disappeared after Obama won, even though he continued on with the same exact plan as Bush and the republicans.

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those damn libs!

>>134236473
I'm just sick of that fucking laughing cunt, mix it up once in awhile

There would still be an iraq war.

wtf i love al gore now

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>>134237095
Yes ending the Iraq War and bringing the troops home was the same thing as Bush. You retards have lost your minds. Obama reduced US troops in the ME by 95%. You retards have lost your minds.

How many countries did Obama invade and occupy like Bush did Iraq?

inb4 retards think a drone strike in Yemen is totes the same thing

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>>134237130
Sorry to trigger you. I'll put a trigger warning next time like Trudeau does on all government documents. I named a lot of my laughing gifs 42% unemployment lol and right wing retards usually get triggered by the filename, even when I just want to use the laughing gif, not the filename.

>>134237419
>Obama reduced US troops in the ME by 95%.
Yeah, he swapped them out for JSOC kill teams and drone strikes, even started drone striking two other countries that weren't involved.
Based black man

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I'll just leave this here.

brb

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>>134237759
First of all, I love how quickly you goalpost shifted to Obama when you got btfo on Bush.

And yeah, tactical surgical strikes is a lot smarter, cheaper and more effective than the Republican plan of invading and occupying entire countries.

>>134231428
People seem to forget that like 40% of the Dems voted for the war, Hillary Clinton included, so yes, Gore would've gone into Iraq 100%, even with Dems having a majority, it would have definitely been enough

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>>134238013
You just admitted that the majority of Democrats voted against the war. I mean, why do Republicans dindu so fucking hard.

"Yeah we're total fuckups, but the Democrats would have done it too, even though they were against it"

What a compelling argument to vote GOP.

>>134230856
>White House urges congress to pass law to help future mortgage crisis
>Barney Frank and Chris Dodd fight against it and on live television that people shouldn't buy houses they can't afford
>2008 happens
>Dodd and Frank make a bill the Bush White House proposed, take credit, and blame Bush administration

Made me think

>>134238230
>See flag
When the fuck did i ever support republicans? All im saying is even with a majority, enough dems voted for the Iraq war that USA would have gone in regardless of who the president was. In the senate 58% of dems voted for the war, in the house of representatives around 40%, even with Gore president and dems having a majority in the house, the vote difference would still be over 150 for the war.

>TL;DR When it comes to Iraq, it's completely unimportant who the president was, the USA was going in anyway

also fuck both dems and the gop they are all cunts

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>>134238234
Lol are you still actually trying to spout this debunked right wing retard meme?

Republicans had the House, Senate and White House.

Republicans controlled the Committee that's on that 1 video that u retards base your entire ideology on.

I swear, you Republicans are the biggest dindus on the planet.

Show me the Republican bill. Oh fuck you can't because it doesn't exist.

GOP HOUSE
GOP SENATE
GOP PRESIDENT

The biggest WE DINDU NUFFIN chimpout in the history of the world

>>134237905
I'm still trying to slap that nigger's cock out of your mouth because you can't seem to comprehend that absolutely nothing would've been different if Al Gore won.
We might have more solar panels and wind farms, that's about it.

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>>134238234
>>134238553
George Bush: we want everybody in America to own their own home. That's what we want.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAtUq0OJ68&nohtml5=False

>>134227287
literally no different

>>134227287
climate would be forever changed /s

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>>134238512
Gore never would have pushed for the war. There would have been no 9/11. It would have been a completely different political climate than the neocon dystopia that Republicans created.

Go read the PNAC document.

90% of the opposition to the war came from Democrats.

How many Republicans voted against it? Please tell me that.

>>134227287

You wouldn't know what's going on in Antarctica.

Oh wait.

>>134237419
>inb4 retards think a drone strike in Yemen is totes the same thing


When a foreign government's drone strike lands in your proverbial backyard, I'm sure you'll calmly accept that it isn't war because "no boots on the ground".

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>>134227287
He sets up his "carbon credit" scam earlier, and pushes for federal mandates for carbon credits to become a billionaire overnight.

9/11/2001. Gore admin sets up a review panel to write a report to consider what to ask a Congressional subcommittee for advise about which document to check for oh god they've begun a full scale invasion of Florida.

Meanwhile, the economy crashes like the goddamn Hindenburg blimp because energy = growth, and our ME "allies" stab USA in the back by offering concessions to terrorist groups because we're not funding their petrol states anymore. Housing bubble pops earlier, 2002, instead of merely threatening to crash in 2003.

President Gore gives zero fucks about all of this because he's a fucking idiot. We're told things would have been worse if we had unleashed the hobgoblin of global warming with our previously functional economy.

Texas seceeds because they're the only state that still has a black ink budget and can afford to do so, Califonia is overrun by wetbacks, and America as we know it is gone forever.

Thankfully, we live in a much better timeline.

>>134227888
>implying Al Gore would've stopped his Democrat Congress from declaring war on Iraq
Oh how precious, you forgot that the Dems controlled the House and they all voted for war in Iraq. How inconvenient for you. Or maybe you didn't forget, maybe you just weren't alive in 2003.

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>>134238585
It would have been a lot of different. Everything would have been different. All you Republicans do is crash everything, fuck everything up and then say oh well the other guys woulda done it too.

>>134229969

>9/11 and the Iraq war are the same.

Good be 18 to post here kid.

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>>134238839
A drone strike in Yemen is totally the same thing as Bush's invasion and occupation of Iraq.

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Why did 40% of house dems and 60% of senate dems support the war in iraq?

>>134229969
If anything, 9/11 can be blamed on Clinton's and Dem's lax immigration policy/brown fetish.

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>>134228292
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>>134238878
>Oh how precious, you forgot that the Dems controlled the House and they all voted for war in Iraq.

I swear to god right wing retards are the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet.

I cannot believe that there are actually retards like this that exist on the planet.

Republicans controlled the House, and Senate, and WH.

Right wing retards are nothing more than fake news.

I'm out. >>134238230

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>>134238965
>All you Republicans
nope

>>134239278
Read my post
>>134239167
60% of Senate dems voted for the iraq war

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>>134239167
Republican President
Republican House
Republican Senate

90% of opposition from war came from Democrats.

Why are Republicans the biggest we dindu nuffin chimps on the planet?

Why do Republicans continue to dindu the tremendous conservative achievements of this proud 2 term Republican president?

>>134235059
>Republicans are retards with money
>last Dem president spent more than every other president combined (a whopping $10 trillion) and he didn't even have the Iraq war to blame it on.

>>134239096
>Logic is hard

Things can be different with equally bad ramifications.

No one should defend any of these warmongers.

>>134227287
i wonder if Trump would still be President if Gore won. i still think he would, probably earlier. (2012)

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>>134239461
read my post >>134239485

you're a dindu GOP shill.

You Republicans are such total and complete clusterfuck disasters, that you have to dindu an entire 8 year GOP presidency.

You're the saddest degenerates on the planet. It will be no different with Trump. It will be an even bigger dindu chimpout. You are sad, sad dindus.

>>134227287
2004 election would've been contestable
Probably no Obama in 2008
Obama > Gore
So if Dubya was a requirement for Obama to become president, it was worth it in hindsight.

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>>134239519
Obama was the slowest spender in 80 years actually

>>134239814
Also no Obama would imply no Trump btw folks
So really we are in the best timeline.

>>134239278
out of your fucking mind, yes.

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>>134239519
>>134239847
and reduced the budget deficit he inherited by 2/3

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>>134239847
>slowest spender
>spent $10 trillion (more than every other president combined)
Slow and steady wins the race.

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>>134239948
Republican President
Republican House
Republican Senate

= the biggest WE DINDU NUFFIN GOP chimpout in history

Trump's will be even bigger.

Obama Leaf out

>>134240035
>budget deficit matters when you owe $20 trillion
Oh, it's Obamaleaf. Why am I wasting my time. Don't have a dog to prep for your wife?

>>134240080
>he doesn't know what spending is >>134239847

Obama spending binge never happened
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obama-spending-binge-never-happened-2012-05-22?pagenumber=1

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>>134240214
Obama reduced the budget deficit by 2/3 >>134240035

and was the slowest spender in 80 years >>134239847

The national debt still went up because the costs of Bush's tax cuts, wars, fuckups and recession don't magically stop as soon as he leaves office. Did u think they did?

Obama Leaf out

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H-he's real...

>>134239847
>36 posts by this ID

what is the final solution to the leaf question?

>>134227287
Melted ice caps and florida under water. Also less shitskins since the distance between af*ica and europe would be greater.

>>134227287
On one hand, the world today would be a much, much different place.

Though it needs to be said that the President, powerful as he is, is still only one man and that a great deal of events that occurred during Bush would still occur because the institutions, businesses, interests, actors and processes would remain the same (except the President of course)

9/11 would still happen, maybe it would have been prevented, but even the attempt would lead to Afghanistan.

And Iraq was primarily to protect the petrodollar since Saddam wanted to start selling crude oil for euros, so Iraq would still happen as well. The strategies used would maybe be different, but I don't see anyway Iraq doesn't become a clusterfuck for America as soon as the word 'occupation' comes to the table, and if anything a liberal would have an ever bigger hardon for 'humanitarian interventions' and 'spreading democracy' than Bush did.

Don't know much about the 2008 crash, so I can't say if it would still happen, though it probably would since Clinton deregulated the financial sector.

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>>134238860
It really is amazing the mental gymnastics Republicans will go to to avoid taking responsibility for their mistakes.

>>134240343

-----------budget deficit-----------fucking leaf

Obama DOUBLED the Natl debt
..............DOUBLED, and it wasn't cause of Bush, he was just throwing money away like a black man with a blank checkbook.