We're fucked.

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>>134225540
kek good riddance, tit for tat eh faggots

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>>134225744

>>134225540
I thought the UN was one of the orgs that constantly bitched about overpopulation? Now Europe and Japan are underpopulated?

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>>134226161
nah, not underpopulated, just diversity deficient
can be easily fixed

baka we need National Globalism. As in, Euros and Asians realizing their collective interest of not getting flooded by Muslims, Africans, and Mestizos.

>>134226161
Yep.
>Stop having kids, it's bad for the planet
>you aren't having kids, time to bring in foreigners
It's to replace people with a dumber, repressing underclass. A fifth column of supplanted people that will destroy the concept of national ties and sovereignty.

>>134226610
>national globalism
shit nigga imagine the butthurt if we got our shit together and started colonizing and culturally enriching the entire world

>>134226867
You don't even need to colonize the world or any of this nonsense. Though it is sort of a shame that no one is really putting Africa to use...

You just need to keep the backward peoples out.

>>134226983
>that no one is really putting Africa to use...
China is

>>134225540
>Üntermensch

>>134225540
Negroid eurasian race happening

>>134225540
This is literally fucking genocide, how could someone as fucking bluepilled as you can get see this as something good.

>>134225540
Like we couldn't kill every fucking one of them if we were allowed to

>>134225540
STOP HAVING CHILDREN GOYIM
IT'S GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT
OPEN BORDERS TO MIGRANTS
IT OFFSETS DECLINING BIRTHRATES

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>>134225540

>>134225540
Why can't you dumb niggers understand this is about economics and not race? When people don't reproduce, you need an influx of people to take on debt and keep the global (((economy))) ballooning forever upward

>>134228286
>when you aren't having enough children so you bring in immigrants to get on welfare so you work even more hours to pay for their welfare so you don't have the time or money to raise children so you need to bring in more immigrants etc.

das it mane

>>134225540
>Destroy
This is why nobody takes you "white genocide" retards seriously. Decreasing the proportion of a race doesn't decrease the absolute number of that race.

>>134226161
Moving people who are already living to other places has nothing to do with global overpopulation.

>>134225540
>UN posted this in 2001
>Still haven't succeeded and the far right is on the rise in every country they're trying to do it too

lol the UN is so incompetent

>>134228672
Here's why I don't take YOU seriously.

African and Muslim migrants will never pay taxes into the system. They will always be a net drain on the coffers of the state, until the state can no longer afford migration, thus undermining the entire point of the UN replacement program.

It's so fucking mindboggling stupid that powerful people can't even get these people gainfully employed, and somehow don't see it as a problem.

>>134229149
>African and Muslim migrants will never pay taxes into the system.
TIL African/Muslim migrants don't pay sales taxes, property taxes, federal taxes, or state taxes.

>They will always be a net drain on the coffers of the state
Sweeping general claims that have been shown to be false time after time is another reason you're not taken seriously.

>no mention of why a declining population is a bad thing

Right.

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>>134229398
Top kek. You mean they pay taxes on the welfare money they've received from taxes? What kind of insanity is this?

Good fucking luck trying to get a person with an IQ 85 into gainful employment without having to literally feed and house him because he can do neither of those things himself.

You'll never make a fucking dime from a refugee. You are too politically correct and naïve to make Globalism work. And ironically, you will be ruled by the very barbarians you imported in.

I don't know who is more retarded. Globalists or Communists.

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>tfw you will inherit land and a farm in Iceland.

>>134229633
Who's going to take care of old people? There won't be enough white people, so surely by taking in hordes of third-worlders they'll naturally be thankful for the job of cleaning up after elderly white people shit their beds in care homes.

t. (((economists, cuckservatives, marxists)))

>>134228470

Doesn't matter what the fuck it's about if it destroys our countries. I don't care what a bomb tried to hit if it blows up my house. Fix declining birth rates by incentivising big families, not bringing in the worst of other countries.

>>134228915
UN is commie central, anon.

China is a totalitarian shithole, ironically it will probably save them.

>>134229870
>Globalists or communists

Same people. ran by the (((same group)))

>>134230607
China already has a black enclave in Guangzhou. The Chinese opinions on blacks are /pol/ tier, it's hilarious.

>>134228915
>Still haven't succeeded

>>134229870
>You mean they pay taxes on the welfare money they've received from taxes?
Thinking every one of them collects welfare benefits or is a net negative contributor is deluded. Besides, that's an argument for decreasing the welfare state, not restricting the free flow of people.

>You'll never make a fucking dime from a refugee.
Except that's also completely wrong. U.S. refugees pay more than receive in benefits.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/refugees-may-be-good-for-the-economy/

>I don't know who is more retarded. Globalists or Communists.
I vote for dipshits like you who make sweeping unsubstantiated claims without knowing what the fuck they're talking about.

>>134231170
No profits today
https://archive.is/KNCxt

>>134230844
I am surprised why there is no actions to brong democracy to China.

>>134225540
all theyre going to create are hyperagressive and intelligent hybrids which will outjew the jew and end racism once and for all also antisemitism will become a regularity - their book and demons dont tell em this but racemixing will end jewry forever.

>>134231443
There are. The CPC makes them disappear.

>>134229870

>globalists or communists

literally the same

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>>134231170
>Besides, that's an argument for decreasing the welfare state, not restricting the free flow of people.

Remember how I alluded to this.

>You are too politically correct and naïve to make Globalism work

Cheap labor isn't 'cheap' when you are giving away generous entitlement programs that you Globalists love to put in. Look at the Gulf States or China as counter-examples of how to utilize Cheap Labor. They don't spend thousands and thousands of dollars paying for their cheap labor's inability to earn an income. And yet, Globalists, whether you can see it or not, simply don't understand or don't care that their cheap labor is literally bleeding them dry.

Don't waste my time with Nate Copper. Actually read the studies that do matter.

http://www.cream-migration.org/files/FiscalEJ.pdf

TLDR: European Immigrants are a net positive, Non-European Immigrants are a net negative. Which is kind of the point I was making earlier.

And that isn't even beginning to touch the surface how insane it is to give cheap labor the vote. What do you think they are going to vote for; Capitalism? Fucking lol. They'll vote for Socialism or Islamism, thus undermining your entire economic system in the first place.

Pathetic.

>>134227109
>>134226983

China is crushing africa in a cold calculated way.

>>134231170
>linking nate sodium

Fuck off, jew
History repeats itself and there are some mistakes from history that need to be rectified.

>>134231911
"globalism" is still capitalist. Globalism is such a stupid buzzword, it is better to diagnose the problem accurately - Muslim and African invasion.

>>134229961

Don't count your cod before they hatch

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>>134225540
>Russia
Low IQ nigs vs drunken mongoloids, I can't wait

>>134231170

>Nate Plastic, fuck my shit up senpai

>>134232083
Most right-wingers are incapable of telling their enemies apart from each other. It's a kind of autism that is tiring to deal with. There is no nuance in the conservative mind.

>>134228470
If that was true the government would be rewarding people for more children through tax incentives and other programs you scheming merchant

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>>134225540
I just want it to end anon.
I want off this ride.

>>134228832
Except those people and the populations where they come from breed like flies.

>>134232083
>Muslim and African invasion.

and whos perpetuating that invasion you fucking dipshit

globalist kikes

>>134232312
I'm not even a right winger, politically I would be a social democrat. Social Democracy will not function properly in the event of an afro-Islamic invasion, so I oppose it. Not that complicated, but most other left-wingers are guilty over colonialism, imperialism, or whatever.

>>134232441
What does "globalist" add here? As opposed to what, so-called nationalist Jews?

>>134230101
Family or themselves. My grandmother was blind and was able to live alone and take care of herself. Stop being a pussy.

>>134232564
Well you just proved my point then.

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>>134225540
It isn't just the UN pic very related.

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>>134231456
dude, no it wont.
im 100% russian living in nyc (not jewish before you FUCKS say (((100% russian))))

ive been in many places in europe, the US, and asia. NYC has by far the most mixed-raced population of anywhere ive been. the new yorkers who have been here for generations and are very mixed have a sense of identity tied to the city. the wealthiest and most prominent ethnic groups in business, real estate, and government are usually either jewish or italian, i.e., the most conservative, endogamous people.

the people who succeed most in america are the ones who STICK TO THEIR PEOPLE.
what gives a person or a people a sense of history and perspective is belonging to a culture.

This is EXACTLY what (((they))) want to hoard for themselves while destroying it for the underclass over which they want to rule.

I think your comment is not coming from a place of experience, but rather your own asshole.

>>134231970
is the UN filled with retarded mongoloids?

>>134233172
Like any institution, they are geniuses trapped by peer pressure into supporting dumb ideas. Individually, any one of them is smart enough to figure out the errors of their ways. But collectively, all of them aren't smart enough to see any mistakes they are making. It's like the Winter Palace or Versailles.

>>134225540
FFS

It's "Untermensch" without an Umlaut and "Übermensch" with one. This is not hard at all.

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It's time for asians and whites to mix so we can destroy the jew.

>>134225540
>actually calling it replacement
wew lads.

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Guess who is behind all this bullshit?

>>134231970


>Don't waste my time with Nate Copper. Actually read the studies that do matter.

And here you further prove how much of a fucking moron and ignorant you truly are. The link contained a research paper supporting what I had said. Nate Silver didn't even write the article. When the nationalists are sending their people, they truly aren't sending their best.

>TLDR: European Immigrants are a net positive, Non-European Immigrants are a net negative.

To the UK. Also, this study says that non-EEA immigrants have similar negative fiscal impacts of natives themselves. So some immigrants contribute more than natives, and others contribute about the same.

Also, you'd think somebody with a US flag would actually look at US studies, but that's probably because those studies don't suit your narrative. The National Academy of Sciences concluded that immigrants have a positive fiscal impact at the federal level.

>They'll vote for Socialism or Islamism, thus undermining your entire economic system in the first place.

Lol. Good luck.

>>134226983
>>134227109
China is conveniently left out of "UN Enrichment" program.

>>134229398
show me any study, ever, that shows african immigrants being a net benefit on a western countries tax system.

>>134234437
stfu hans, none likes you

>>134225540
The UN is literally a Muslim brotherhood operation. People on /pol/ think jews are the only people capable of subversion for their benefit but nobody ever believes muslims are just as capable.

Ever notice Islamic representatives in the UN are the first to bitch the most about human rights whenever some country decides "no we're not going to let you in"?

There is this misconception that they're "wild animals" that are let in solely by jews when they are just as capable of subverting themselves. In some ways I think the whole leftists obsession with islam is their doing.

if western countries need more workers where are all the jobs?

>>134231591
FUCKING BASED CHINA
No wonder they are one the rise

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>>134234620
nice derail attempt, schlomo

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>>134234775
Pro COINTEL. Well memed friend. .02 has been deposited!

>>134233172
>>134233419
they are just being controlled by (((them)))

>>134225540
>implying they Havnt been working on this for the past 70 years.
At least theyre being straight forward about it now laying the ground for giving us a target to shoot at

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>Remove the 105 IQ whites and asians.
>Only 85 IQ browns left
>105 IQ Jews easily rule the world over the browns.

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>>134234647
No one likes 'merrica

>>134225540
Test

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>>134235107
Divide and Conquer derail.

>>134235107
America doesn't care what you think

>>134225540
WHITES HAVE NO PLACE HERE. THEY ARE THE MOST OPPOSED TO CHANGE! THEY WILL ASSIMILATE OR DIE OFF

>>134229398

It's a well known fact that all races except Europeans and East Asians are revenue negative in the USA, Europe and Australia.

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>>134234775
i always go back to what will benefit israel and i conclude that if europe and usa become islamic israel will die and every jew with it. death to all jews and the end of israel is an end goal of islam. therefore it is logical to assume that jews promote muslim immigration to create the same condition as israel is in of being surrounded by muslim enemies and force us to solve their islamic problem.

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>>134225540
DON'T.FUCK.WITH.MY.NIPPONS!

>>134225540
big if true

>>134225540
>the nwo is upon us
>but first, let's plan on keeping our planet over-populated, thus defeating the ability to bring the population into an easily controllable amount

You're an idiot

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>>134235242
Democrats (the majority) do.

>>134234928
>Say the Muslim brotherhood is just as responsible for shit.
>Do not denounce or withhold the role of jewish influence in the migrant crisis.
>Get called a shill anyway

And no one will find this the least bit suspicious. There is blatantly a Muslim brotherhood operation on /pol/ that doesn't want you looking into them and what they're responsible for. They deflect awareness by claiming that any claims against them is an attempt to deflect blame away from Jews.

This "pick and chose a side" dichotomy has been on /pol/ for a long time. The issue is why would /pol/ "pick a side" and why would /pol/ not want to blame both? Why would it matter who got "more of the blame" when the responsibility lies on both? The idea of "Who are you supposed to blame more" being an issue is evidence enough that there are people protecting something.

>>134225540
But, American cunt, anglos are among the dumbest, not to mention they are the most parasitic organism in existence.

Anglos are intelligent only when it comes to backstabbing, treachery and doing evil.

>>134225540
This is the kind of stuff that needs spreading over facebook and twitter, people need to realize they are not helping themselves by being liberal puppets.

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>>134234544
Are you dense?

First off, I again said that Arabs and African migrants are going to be a net negative to the system. And I quoted a paper which clearly states the case. But you chose to spin that in your warped mind as somehow being a victory for your claim.

I wasn't going to bring out US studies, because they are extremely politically incorrect. But here is an example of how the budget deficit works from the US perspective. Warning. This would qualify as a "Hate Fact" by the PC crowd, but you gave me no choice but to cite the US.
http://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/05/11/fiscal-impact-of-whites-blacks-and-hispanics/

And finally, are you fucking naïve to think that, when horribly outnumbered at the ballot box, that cheap labor is going to vote Capitalism just because you own the media. It's this kind of arrogance that will be your undoing, when the 2020 elections roll around and the Socialists take control of the Democratic Party.

One day, when the debt is too high and the cheap labor is too great, there will be a catastrophic collapse in Globalism as both the Far Left and the Far Right will battle over your corpse. It will be ugly, and it would be all your doing.

>>134228470
I'm tired of this modern age idea that we aren't animals with no natural rates of population decline. Trying to defy this is trying to defy nature itself. This is completely about race. When you introduce an new animal to an environment, sometimes the new animal will overtake its new environment and the native species starts to dwindle away. This is what will happen to us. Fuck this enlightenment liberalistic modern thinking that only says this is only economics. It is definitely more than that.

>>134225540
No Australia on this list ?
Maybe Europe can take our niggers and Muslims too seeing as they so desperately need them

>>134229398
You naive imbecile. Non white immigration cost the UK £120 billion over recent years and that is a conservative fucking estimate that doesn't take into account the many ways in which they impact on society.

>>134236146
Forget it. He suffers from this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

I just don't get it. What do they gain from this? Who is behind it all? Is it honestly just a case of not understanding we shouldn't just "replace" races? Is it a refusal to admit that they belong to a race, a people? I just don't get it.

>>134234620
That's an absurd request. Pretty much every study ever on this topic looks at the total fiscal impact of immigrants regardless of where they came from. Somehow you want one showing an entire fucking continent with varying levels of education, skills, and wealth to form some kind of conclusion? Yeah, get real.

You can look at the numerous studies available showing immigrants have positive fiscal impacts. In the US, even refugees have positive fiscal impacts.

>>134228915
They haven't succeeded in Japan yet cause the based nips are racist as fuck but the rest of Europe is looking pretty fucked right now.
Don't forget that for every 1 European child born there will be 5 shitskin babies
The damage is already done, it's just a matter of time now

>>134235396
Jews would benefit from a destabilized west. The diaspora avoiding islamic wrath would flee to Israel and bolster the ethno-state. The west would face genocide and thus the old enemy of the Ashkenazim would be defeated.

But on the other end, the Islamic world benefits. They're get one step closer to their religious goal of global conquest. They have their knives out on Israel and hope that after they consume the west they'll have the resources to take them out Basically both sides think they'll win and have knives behind their backs ready to take out the other once the western enemy is dead.

/pol/ thinks that because 85 IQ goat farmers are invading europe that islam is just a retarded beast of burden that would easily be disposed of. They don't believe that there is an upper class of intelligent subverters within the islamic league that are just as effective.

>>134225744
US didn't have anything to do with that. Besides, according to /pol/ you should've wanted to give the Nazis whatever they wanted. You wouldn't dare go against /pol/, would you?

>>134236554
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

>>134235865
Economies crash when there aren't people there to borrow for cars, student loans, mortgages, etc. Interest allows the government and financial institutions to literally create money out of thin air. The entire western world sits on a debt bubble and shit crashes hard without a steady stream of new debtors.

Incentivizing people to have kids would take years to pay off. Allowing a million new, poor people pays off faster.

>>134225540
The reason the elites do this is because they genuinely want peace.

Not peace for you or I. But peace with each-other. Because a modern war would be bad for all of them.

African and Muslim Migrants serve many seperate purposes and give the elites many powerful options and vastly different directions they can take in the future.

Important to note is that Globalism is Communism with a blue paint job. Go look at old communist art, the earth under communist regime is a very common theme.

Communists are at best only capable of shifting pre-existing resources around. That is why they chose population replacement over environments that favour the natives to have decently sized families to maintain the necessary exponential growth that the system would collapse without.

When natives have children it takes at least 15 years before they can even begin paying taxes. During this time they are a huge drain on resources.

Foreigners can start paying taxes immediatly. This leads to the more benevolent if not retarded, non-conspiratorial view that globalists are trying to prop up their systems out of legitimate concern.

Their options with large migrant populations:

1) Replace natives with lower iq foreigners. This makes the population easier to control and they will demand less of the elite when they must inevitably cut spending drastically. The economic environment your parents and great grandparents enjoyed only happened because they took huge-ass national debts to consume resources back then. This means consumption must collapse in the future, despite the fact that huge populations have been born on the premise that this will not happen.

Muslims or Somali Bantu may riot but they will be controllable. The last time Europeans chimped out we split the atom.

2) If the economic system cannot maintain itself for long enough to replace the native population (very likely an economic crisis within 3 years) Then you can cut spending and let people duke it out.

1/2

>>134225540
But I thought we were told not to have anymore kids because climate change

>>134236849
>Low IQ people are easily controllable meme.

Look at Africa. Look at the Middle East. Look at Baltimore. Low IQ people can't even stop murdering each other, let alone work productively. Japan is a highly controlled society, and it has one of the highest IQ's on the Earth.

This idea needs to be put to rest.

>>134236554
Maybe our legal immigrants, since we can choose the good ones. Most of our population resulting from illegal immigration is on welfare - taking in as much, if not more, from the government than they give back in taxes from that, other benefits, and other costs incurred, all while sending money back home.

>>134235392
So the end game is to destabilise arabs push them to immigrate to Europe and isreal takes over the oil and riches/land?

>>134235838
>And I quoted a paper which clearly states the case.

First off, you originally said African and Muslim migrants. Now you're shifting to Arab/African. Plus, I didn't see anywhere in that study that looks at those specific migrants, only those in the EEA or not. "Clearly states the case" is just further delusion from you.

> But here is an example of how the budget deficit works from the US perspective.

Wow, you *really* suck at staying on topic. We were first talking about the fiscal impacts of immigrants, but now you're looking at the fiscal impacts of several races. A lot of these people aren't even immigrants, and this isn't a "study." This is a blog post on a sketchy site. You reek of desperation.

>are you fucking naïve to think that, when horribly outnumbered at the ballot box, that cheap labor is going to vote Capitalism

How fucking naive are you to think the US is even remotely close to socialist, even if you assign every voter to vote for what you think is socialism? Actual socialists aren't viable in US elections bud, even in your fantasy land where every low-skilled immigrant somehow votes the same way.

>>134236660
well, jews know that the end goal of islam is to kill all jews. it says in the end times the last jew will hide behind a rock and the rock will cry out "oh muslim, theres a jew hiding behind me, come and kill him".

Every time there used to be a terrorist attack in Israel the UN, EU and even USA used to tell Israel to be nicer to muslims. Today, due to mass muslim immigration we have the same problem as Israel does and we will eventually be forced to solve the muslim problem.

>>134237165
Yeah...no. Even unauthorized immigrants seem to have net positive fiscal contributions. Which isn't surprising considering they can't actually collect means-tested welfare.

https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8711/12-6-immigration.pdf

>>134234437
we will only destroy ourselves

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>>134236849
2 continued)

This is the more likely scenario to occur in my opinion. The major reason is that an all-out 21st century war between developed nations would be absolutely horrific beyond belief. Enormous cities have been built on the premise that they will neve be firebombed. The whole 3 days of food argument. Water refineries often only have a few weeks of treatment chemicals in stock as well.

But if you need to fill the massive debt hole with human bodies then the best way to do that in the modern geo-political environment is to trigger the kinds of civil riots that would occur if government resources to these migrants are cut off. The no-go zones are essentially occupied territory.

The "civil wars" in europe and america would be less like the romantic visions of the old american civil war and more like a generalised chaos. You would see huge black blocs in german cities just like the g20 riots in Hamburg

A modern "civil war" is the best way to get the necessary number of people killed to pave over the debts from a communism perspective.

This is why Trump desperatly wants manufacturing jobs in america. The more factories that can be revitalised or opened, the faster the economy can recover from the oncoming shitstorm. Macron wants to drastically cut worker regulations for similar reasons I believe.

This is why you need to be prepped with at least some physical precious metals, weapons, food, water and energy generation. Because this may start anytime from october 2017 onwards. Maybe the global economy will keep kicking just long enough to let Janet Yellen get out of office at the end of next January.

The happenings are coming and it will happen in your lifetimes.

>>134237068
More easily controllable in that they don't organise. they just do general looting. You won't see a black NSDAP

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>>134225540
Japs and whites aren't having enough kids so they're being replaced with savages who multiply way faster than they die.

>>134225540
>>134225540
More and more, I welcome the annihilation that Nibiru will bring to the planet. I'm done man. Either the Annunaki ant-people will save some of humanity from the deluge or we all get drowned again. So long as the parasites of the world are no longer allowed to thrive and they face judgement for their countless many crimes, I'm fine with that.

>>134236554
>immigrants
>not refugees
are you changing the subject or intentionally being dishonest?

>>134237757
>can't actually collect means-tested welfare.
o i am laffin. Come visit California anytime friend.

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>>134237496
>How fucking naive are you to think the US is even remotely close to socialist, even if you assign every voter to vote for what you think is socialism? Actual socialists aren't viable in US elections bud, even in your fantasy land where every low-skilled immigrant somehow votes the same way.

Pic related.

At this point, you are trying to dance around the issue because you don't want to admit that low skill labor doesn't pay into the system. You are willfully ignorant over the reality that when someone collects welfare benefits and earns about $30,000 a year, he is a net drain on the system. When you massively increase the amount of people who work $30,000 a year, you create a net drain on the system overall, rather than paying back into the system. Hence, the descendants of all the low skill labor we imported in, whether from Africa or Mexico, is a net drain on the system because it cannot pay back into the system due to generous welfare programs. Even by your own fucking logic, you admitted that we should make the case of abolishing welfare rather than trying to inhibit open borders. Well guess what, we have the worst of both worlds now, and soon we are going to drown ourselves as we cannot afford to pay out gratuitous welfare programs to people who won't work.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/13/half-turks-germany-economically-inactive/

But the thing is, reality will correct you. Explain to me this.

If Globalism is working, why does the Fed engage in QE? If immigrants are supposed to grow the economy, why is the economy growing as slow as the Soviet Union was? If importing cheap labor was the answer, then why is the economy failing?

>>134228470
the people > the economy, you demented little cunt

>>134230101
>Who's going to take care of old people?
Who took care of them back in the day?
Social security, as a model, is literally exactly the same as cancer.

>>134238695
>are you changing the subject or intentionally being dishonest?
When did I change the subject? The post I responded to mentioned the fiscal impact of unauthorized immigrants.

>Come visit California anytime friend.
Not an argument.

>>134238742
>/half-turks-germany-economically-inactive/
thats just the turks, even less of the refugees have jobs. I forgot the percentage, but its insanely low.

>>134228832
Thats just plain wrong though. Moving people with high birth rates and higher mortality rates from a impoverished or underdeveloped region which lacks in resources comparatively to more developed regions into said devloped nation which has lower mortality rates, especially lower children mortality, and a wealth of resources while the migrant groups birth rate remain initially unchanged would have a significant impact on overall population.

>>134237757
I said most of our population resulting from illegal immigration. You know the term anchor babies, how about ((((Dreamers))))? How many kids do you think these poor people are bringing over and popping new ones out once they are here? All these are collecting checks, food stamps, gaining reduced fee tuition simply for being a minority, able to utilize in-state tuition in many states, they used to go to the ER for normal doctor stuff, but since Obama Care, they don't even have to do that to make all our healthcare more expensive, they send a lot of money back home, increase policing and incarceration/rehabilitation costs, and the list goes on and on, all while driving down average wages.
But your pdf doesn't address most of that, and what it does look at is incomplete or distorted.
simple place to start looking more in depth:
https://cis.org/Costs

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>>134231170

American blacks have the highest IQ of any Africans in the world and they themselves take more than they contribute, and you're dumb enough to suggest that pure blacks from Africa are going to be a net positive? Globalists want to rule the world yet they're trying their damn hardest to make it a place not even worth ruling

Guys... what if we go to Africa and replace all the black people?

>>134228093
The UN even calls ethnic replacement genocide.

>>134238742
>Pic related.
A pic of a social democrat who miserably failed in his primaries, yes.

>At this point, you are trying to dance around the issue because you don't want to admit that low skill labor doesn't pay into the system.

I never said that. It's absolutely true some low-skilled immigrants are a net drain on the welfare system, but that says nothing of the total impact of everybody.

>you admitted that we should make the case of abolishing welfare
"Abolish" welfare? No, that's fucking dumb. Change it drastically to make it more efficient and try to lower costs? Yes.

>If Globalism is working, why does the Fed engage in QE?
Don't see the connection here.

>If immigrants are supposed to grow the economy, why is the economy growing as slow as the Soviet Union was?

Because the US is already a highly developed nation. When a country becomes highly developed, it's more difficult to get crazy growth rates like China's, which is still developing. Part of the reason why the US has poor growth is because productivity growth has been low, and immigrants increase productivity and therefore increase long-run economic growth.

>>134239448
Developed nations tend to have lower birth rates because they have more access to birth control and have better sex education. If anything, moving people from impoverished nations to developed ones would significantly help curb overpopulation.

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>>134239526
on top of that you have women that can vote for more property

>>134240104
>A pic of a social democrat who miserably failed in his primaries, yes.

For a Globalist, you should know that Sanders had to literally be bribed and coerced into dropping out. Next time, Globalists won't be so lucky.

And with this point here. >
>It's absolutely true some low-skilled immigrants are a net drain on the welfare system, but that says nothing of the total impact of everybody.

By definition, a low-skilled immigrant is someone who 'only' makes a low amount of money. And people who make low amounts of money require tremendous welfare systems to keep themselves alive. All low-skill immigrants are a net drain to the system, because if they weren't, then they would be a high-skill immigrant. Your point doesn't make much sense.

And what I tried to explain in the last point is, despite importing record amounts of immigration, the Western World isn't economically growing, but entirely dependent upon QE to keep it functional. If Globalism "worked," then we wouldn't see 1%-2% growth rates in Europe or the US, because immigrants would've led to tremendous economic gain. Of course, I expect you to reply with "no-true-scotsman," but the fact of the matter is, we ARE following YOUR advice, and we AREN'T seeing record economic growth in the first place.

>>134225540
>Un
>capable of anything remotely effective without big daddy 'murica leading the way.
We'll be fine.

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>>134225744

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>>134239357
>Not an argument.
it is. They collect welfare here, and in many other places. And you made the absurd claim that they don't. Not to mention all the other costs associated with them, their healthcare, police,etc.

And I read that CBO pdf you posted, its not as favorable to your points as you think. pic related. The states they used as examples are using just about all all the tax revenue they got from illegals just on education for illegal kids, when there are much more costs to consider.
They are a net negative.

>>134239475
>anchor babies
Who by definition aren't immigrants, so I don't see how that's even relevant to this entire discussion. Next.

>simple place to start looking more in depth
CIS is pure trash lol.

https://www.cato.org/blog/center-immigration-studies-exaggerates-immigrant-welfare-use


>>134239526
>and you're dumb enough to suggest that pure blacks from Africa are going to be a net positive?

I don't know. There's no study that I know of that looks at fiscal impacts of immigrants from an entire fucking continent. It very well may be true they have a net negative fiscal impact, but since the US tends to have a fairly selective process, it's more likely most immigrants from Africa are high-skilled.

Here's my entire point of immigration conviently summed out in one maxim.

An immigrant is good is if he pays more in taxes then he recieves in benefits. That means some immigrants are good, while others are bad. It's fucking simple. Only a Globalist can make it complicated.

>>134240984
>CIS is pure trash lol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

>>134240880

Also wage stagnation caused by unlimited labor supply is a cost, as is rental cost increases do to increased demand.

>>134240984

> but since the US tends to have a fairly selective process, it's more likely most immigrants from Africa are high-skilled.

Literally what the fuck are you talking about? Almost 100% of the Africans in America, bar somalis in Minnesota, are West African slave descendants. They have higher IQs than purebloods that Europe has been importing because they're almost all partially mixed with whites.

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>>134240880
some more snippets

>>134226161

This is more for wealth redistribution. The problem is that our birth rate and mortality decline is good. This whole immigration thing is a myth. Our populations are declining because our quality of life and life expectancy is increasing. We don't need 10 kids, just so 1 of them can survive passed 10 and keep the farm running after I lose my arm and die at 30.

>>134241523
Mostly they just allow illegals to stay and open the door to refugees. Even if every legal immigrant is skilled, there's still an illegal immigrant behind him, plus his whole family.

>>134232083
>"globalism" is still capitalist.
I do not agree. Globalism is maybe "oligarchism" or feudalism - but it certainly isn't capitalism. In capitalism, every player in a certain market has equal rights. In globalism, the rules are forged or skewed in favor of the big companies/political entities. And those are owned/held by...

>better to diagnose the problem accurately - Muslim and African invasion.
Great doctor here. Declaring one of many symptoms as the sickness.

>>134241640
Talking to a Globalist is like talking to a Soviet about the failures of Communism. The Communist refuses to admit there are economic inefficiencies in the system, because he is compelled by his peer group to believe otherwise. Over and over again, the data shows that open borders does not work. Now. That isn't to say ALL immigration is bad. Just low-skill immigration. But like the Commie, the Globalist refuses to believe in anything that could contradict his worldview. Its fucking madness.

>>134240708
>Sanders had to literally be bribed and coerced into dropping out.
What color is the sky in your world? Sanders stayed in for way longer than he should have because he effectively lost in early March. He ended up losing by nearly 4 million votes. Nobody thought he had a chance of winning.

>And people who make low amounts of money require tremendous welfare systems to keep themselves alive. All low-skill immigrants are a net drain to the system, because if they weren't, then they would be a high-skill immigrant.

Your logic is complete trash. "Low skill" doesn't mean you're so poor you need massive welfare. It doesn't even necessarily mean you need welfare at all. Try again.

>but entirely dependent upon QE to keep it functional.
QE is rarely used by Fed and it only helps short-run economic growth, not long-run economic growth. I don't know why you insist on spouting shit you know nothing about. At least some of the other people here don't seem half-retarded as you have this whole time.

> If Globalism "worked," then we wouldn't see 1%-2% growth rates in Europe or the US, because immigrants would've led to tremendous economic gain.

Germany is experiencing increasing rates of economic growth, as an example.

http://www.dw.com/en/ifo-projects-stronger-german-economic-growth/a-39325200

Thinking above 2 percent growth is normal for highly developed nations is pure fantasy. You might actually get that in the US if they heavily increased immigration though, since it's in high demand for living, but the US has a really dumb immigration system that restricts growth.

>>134241957
I know, it drives me insane, but I can't let lurkers think the mysterious "studies" this guy keeps quoting are legit.
The Nate Tupperware one was debunked in the next paragraph in the same article.

Wow.. it's almost like theyre trying to start WW3 for a One World Governmentas prophecized thousands of years ago...

Un in french = One

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>>134225540
Oh great the vermin are growing, the UN is now irrelevant, I am denouncing, do not settle any city's near ours, our words are back with nuclear autism.

DEUS VULT

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>>134225540

This all part of the "Globalist Endgame". Create a mixed population that is dependent & can be exterminated with Bioweapons & Machines.

[Made a thread on this a while ago: http://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/subject/knowledge%20bomb/username/anonymous5/tripcode/%21%219O2tecpDHQ6/]

White Populations have always been harder to control, but they always implode due to Degeneracy & Feminism.

>>134225744
How is it tit for tat when there are still billions of negroids, Muslims, and Spics ?

>>134235517
>Democrats (((The Majority))) do.
ftfy

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Tbh if kill all whites, UN NWO will stop existing.
Asian/Turkic master race, unite.
White pigs are too far gone, they are actively fighting for their destruction and are threatening us for not doing the same to ourselves.

>>134234519
>>>134225540 (OP)
LOL Europe got fucked hard by the Huns, Goths, Vandals, then again by the Vikings, Magyars, Avars. Its always like this. History will repeat itself.

>>134242676
The difference is the europeans put up a fight during those invasions, this time europe is spreading its asshole open and begging for muhammads cock

We're gonna need nuclear autism for shit like this, if we don't expose this, it will be too late, when normie and lefty finally wake up it will be too late, your righty anons who were imprisoned/killed off won't be able to help you then...

Literally the first thing God told man was to be fruitful and multiply.

>>134242015
>QE is rarely used by Fed and it only helps short-run economic growth,

Top kek. Central Banks are literally buying stocks off the market to starve economic collapse. That's how bad the economy is doing. But under your system, since we opened the borders to migrants, clearly investors should be eager to invest in the economy, and stock purchases should be unnecessary. The point I am trying to make, is, again, if Globalism was working, then the Fed wouldn't have to stave economic collapse by purchasing stocks. But this is lost on you.

You also don't understand the concept of Low-Skill. Which is why I realize that this is a waste of time arguing with you. Over and over again, I have tried to explain, that people who don't make a certain income threshold in an economy are a net drain on the system, because of welfare programs. Hence, low-skill labor is always a net drain on the system due to welfare programs. But these words are completely lost, like trying to explain to a Soviet how only the market can effectively set prices. It's so god damn exhausting trying to make this point, but I'll try one more time.

>High-Skill Immigrants; GOOD
>Low-Skill Immigrants; BAD

What the fuck is so hard to understand about this? I'm literally trying to meet you half way, and you aren't even capable of seeing this far.

>Thinking above 2 percent growth is normal for highly developed nations is pure fantasy.

We had fucking three and four percent growth in the 90's when Clinton was actively deporting Mexicans. What kind of madness believes that "two percent" economic growth is "Good?" The Soviet Union grew at 2%. Globalism grows at 2%. What a surprise, a failed economic paradigm is going to fail.

I'm going to look forward to 2020, when you globalists get cucked by Socialists in the primaries by an American Hugo Chavez.

>>134242015
>says is experiencing
>article says "projects"

yo are you going to respond to me?
>>134241640
>>134240880

>>134240880
>They collect welfare here, and in many other places.
Bud, what you're suggesting flies in the face of current law. Unauthorized immigrants are not eligible for means-tested benefits. Period. They can collect means-tested benefits for their citizen children, but that's it.

>They are a net negative.

A claim unsubstantiated from the screenshot you gave. It's very well possible that's true in the short-run, but in the long-run those children will eventually pay their own taxes, and the fiscal impact then is probably positive anyway.

>>134241523
>are West African slave descendants.
What the fuck? Are you even talking about immigrants at this point? Where is your source that shows this?

>>134242293

>>134242293
The problem is Frank, dependency is expensive. The Roman Emperors thought they could control the masses through Bread and Circuses. And they did, until they printed so much money that they couldn't afford to entertain the masses anymore. There is so only so much degeneracy a government can afford before it falls.

>>134240357
Initally unchanged, eventually birth rates would decline but the intigration process takes several generations meaning overall population grows. A couple having 5 children who in turn have 4 children each, who have 3 children, before finally starting to stabilize around the average for developed nations is a massize net increase.

>>134243013
>to starve economic collapse. That's how bad the economy is doing.
Yeah okay. I think I'm done discussing with you because it's clear you live in your own little fantasy land. I've debunked every stupid point you've made, and I'll end with this one. The economy is near full employment and experiencing healthy rates of economic growth. How you think the economy is in "collapse" is beyond me, but you're a waste of my time.

>>134228470
Hey numbnuts, how about you alter the economic environment such that the native population can reproduce?

>>134225540
If only they weren't fucking retarded, and realize that they could just END the welfare state, end feminism, and possibly remove women's right to participate in politics (they can vote, just not participate themselves), and these problems would disappear.

>>134243381
http://freebeacon.com/issues/obama-economy-slowest-recovery-since-1949/

No. You've given up. Don't call your cowardice strength.

THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

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>>134243054
holy shit you're dumb.
Illegally immigrating flies in the face of current law, they're still doing it. They also steal social security numbers, which is also illegal. And they are collecting welfare. I've seen it. It's undeniable.
>A claim unsubstantiated from the screenshot you gave
lel your claims are the unsubstantiated ones.
Everything I posted is what you posted to back up your claims, but they directly counter you.
Your 538 article claiming "the longrun hypothesis" was wrong, it was proven wrong in the next paragraph (see pic related), if you bothered to read your own source.
I'm starting to believe you actually work at the UN because you can't understand the concept of a comprehensive and honest study.

>>134243542
>Don't call your cowardice strength.
lel I know a certain leaf that does this same thing

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>>134225744

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>>134225540
Sounds bad, but remember:
THE UN IS A FUCKING JOKE AND NOBODY LISTENS TO THEM

I worked with the UN on a malaria fundraiser a few years ago. The people running it were mouth breathing idiots. They "forgot" to pay the caterers and they lost Dikembe Mutombo. That was my anti-globalism white pill. Fucking morons have no chance of being able to control shit if they manage to lose a 7 foot tall basketball player and can't pay for canapes.

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>>134243673
well I don't know maybe we should make it happen and on sept 23rd show up to the central bank location nearest to you.

>>134239657
The most telling thing of all.

>UN says ethnic replacement is genocide
>UN Advocates for the ethnic replacement of populations in White and Asian countries.

>The UN is literally advocated for the genocide of whites and asians per the UN's own definition of genocide.

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>>134225540
All apart of the plan to engineer a mono-race of sub-intelligent worker drones who will slave away for the profit of God's chosen tribe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OmxI2AYV8

>>134234647
youre a faggot

genius sperm banks/donors can save us.

Need link

>>134243810
>And they are collecting welfare. I've seen it. It's undeniable.
Yes, I'm sure they have their legal status and welfare benefits on a card taped to their head for you to see. Precisely why I said that's not an argument the first time; you can't prove shit and are just stating it as fact.

>lel your claims are the unsubstantiated ones.
You're cherry-picking screenshots showing some estimates of certain states. Yet the CBO itself concluded exactly what I fucking told you, as they are after all looking at the national level, not certain areas. Think I'm going to go with CBO over some random /pol/tard.

>Your 538 article claiming "the longrun hypothesis" was wrong, it was proven wrong in the next paragraph (see pic related)

That doesn't prove it wrong. It's disagreeing with the methodology of the study, which is fair criticism but says jack shit about the fiscal impact of refugees. The fact is the conclusion of the study is sound. CIS is just saying they should have included other shit too. Education doesn't make much sense these are refugees 18-45, so public school education costs probably won't add shit. Law enforcement is far more tricky to estimate since you can think of it as a cost no matter whether you actually use their services or strictly look at how often they use those services. Incarceration is more of a fair criticism but are also very low already for refugees.

>>134243302
Of course the population grows. The question is whether worldwide population grows faster if you keep them in their impoverished country or if you allow them to move to more developed ones. From what everybody has seen, the more access to birth control and education services, the lower the birth rate.

>>134244884
How the fuck did the thread get to 180 replies without anyone asking for a credible source? Scrolled through and didn't see one either.

>>134244928
>CIS is just saying they should have included other shit too.

So you are trying to cherry pick data that doesn't confirm to your world view, in favor of information that does conform to your world view?

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>>134240998

>>134225540
>tfw the UN is literally the League of Nations 2.0
They're gonna start WW3, the level of killing shall be incredible

>>134245719
If you a superstitious man, there are literally prophets who proclaim that Europe will suffer a tremendous Civil War from the Muslim invasions.

https://youtu.be/Uf4rdoSCFOg

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>>134245904
>there are literally prophets who proclaim that Europe will suffer a tremendous Civil War from the Muslim invasions.
Hell I don't need a "prophet" to tell me what is clear as day from looking at the empirical evidence and studying basic history.

It's a fucking full scale land invasion, the streets will run red with blood of the mongrels that have been let in.

>>134245650
Since the data wasn't even looked at, I fail to see how that it does or doesn't conform to a world view. Do you know what the incarceration rate for a refugee in the US is? I don't, because the data isn't there.

>>134225540
I wonder why (((they))) want to do this?

>>134246190
The US's refugee program is very selective and rational, compared to Europe's.

>>134246344
They honestly believe it'll make them rich. Which is why I don't waste my time making moral arguments with Globalists, because they are only interested in money. The only problem is, their system doesn't make them money, either.

>>134244884
>>134245621
Just search "UN replacement migration"

>>134247126
http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/migration/migration.htm

Already did.

>>134246090
we will use the cucks as distractions while we execute a strategic retreat to consolidate our power to strike back. organize.

>>134225540
If they try this without Slave Master Levels of payouts to all the young whites they will have no legacy for their (((elite))) descendants.

How the fuck does that math add up!?

Simple: Whites have been the muscle behind the forced integration movement ever since it began. Look at how scared the (((mass media))) is about being honest over the NIGGER COP KILLING A WHITE WOMAN WHO REPORTED THE CRIME HE WAS RESPONDING TO.

That's one nigger screw up and the whole media goes ape shite to cover up what happened. When there are no longer enough young whites to force other white communities to integrate, the forced integration will either stop or turn into a major race war.

The (((elite))) is too stupid and too greedy to see it coming.

>>134225540

what's wrong with population decline or stagnation that it needs to be rectified?

are ((they)) scared of losing money from less people playing the game. god i hope civilisation collapses so badly so we can slaughter all of the fucking world manipulating ((elite)) faggots

>>1342255
White race being force cucked

>>134225540
I am glad they are targeting Asians, it will definitely be an awakening for many people now. Its an obvious attack on the superior peoples. Its hard to spin this any other way.

>>134233111
Great post. Being an ethnocentric base is way way way more powerful in a sea of identityless autonomous slave consumers.

>>134225540
Well whites just gained about a billion allies. The jew wont survive the next 50 years.

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>>134244492
Love this proverb. Haven't heard it before. Has a lot of important meaning in it.

>>134248915

Asians + whites will dominate earth and space

Knocking my wife up tonight

>>134231970
what a depressing image, hard working people just get their asses taxed to pay for lazy people. Anyone making under 16k/year works part time and they soak up over 1/3 of total area of the gibs

>>134236475
Safety from genocide.
Slaves to their controlled bureaucratic monster.

>>134243054

>What the fuck? Are you even talking about immigrants at this point? Where is your source that shows this?

I'm talking about African Americans, and comparing them to the West Africans Europe is now importing. Where's your brain at you fucking retard? How are you not getting this?

>>134239639
This is really what pol should do
Take south Africa back by force

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>>134228093
well it's not strictly speaking genocide. the suffix -cide means to kill. thats why 'white genocide' is a poor choice of words because people dont take it seriously. its more of a forced replacement, racial cleansing via mass immigration

anyway heres more media replacement propaganda, straight from the horses mouth
https://archive.is/SV4AU
>For Alibhai-Brown, the decline of whites is a question of redressing the balance after they colonised much of the world. 'The empire strikes back really. There was this extraordinary assumption that white people could go and destroy peoples and it would have no consequence. It astounds me,' she said.

and another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nG5WEE7m4s

>>134240880
Lol totally ignoring the federal costs so you can get a ridiculous headline about how states themselves benefit. Holy shit I hate Jews.

>>134250173
>I'm talking about African Americans, and comparing them to the West Africans Europe is now importing.

Not all "African Americans" are immigrants. I was talking about African immigration *to the US,* yet you're discussing Europe and a group of people who aren't immigrants. If you don't even know how to properly stay on topic or know proper terms, then fuck off already you moron.

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>>134225540
they tell us that we're having too many children and that we should have less to save the planet.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jul/25/population.health
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/12/why-we-should-have-fewer-children-save-the-planet-climate-change

then they tell us we need more immigrants to sustain our country and it's ageing population
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/19/uk-needs-more-immigrants-to-avoid-brexit-catastrophe
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10185342/Britain-needs-millions-more-immigrants-to-reduce-strain-of-ageing-population.html

>>134242015
>QE is rarely used by Fed and it only helps short-run economic growth, not long-run economic growth.
This is the dumbest shit I've ever read on this website
that's saying a lot

>>134251335
Well, they define genocide as anything that seeks to reduce the population of unwanted groups. I guess in this they have an out because european population is declining anyway-- they just want to make sure there's never a baby boom to replenish it, by making sure there's no empty space to fill.

It's all just a loophole though because the clear intent is to get rid of whites. It's genocide in the spirit, if not the letter, of their own rules.

>>134251877
i agree but if we want people to take this issue seriously we should call it something else because pro migration activists will just dismiss the issue by citing the literal definition of what genocide is. if we give it a more accurate term then they will not be able to refute our claims because we have the evidence to back it up. they will be forced into saying that they support the replacement of white europeans which wont go down so well with a lot of people

>>134225540
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/193/text
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/193/text
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/193/text
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/193/text
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/193/text

>>134242571
It's the Jews you fucktard. Whites are Just as good as Asians and Turks.

>>134251335
>those links
That first one is from fucking 2000. Look how long they have been promoting this shit right under our noses

And that Mo Ansar is a horrible peice of work. The arrogance and smugness while talking about "the decline of weatern civilisation" he loves the thought of it

>>134225540
America is going to be fine.
Collectively, the population of the western hemisphere makes up less than 1/6 of the world population. Mexico and Brazil don't even have crazy high birthrates to where they will explode like Africa, China, or India.
Sucks for Europoors though.
Western hemisphere masterrace

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>>134252847
indeed

>>134228832
riiiiiiiiiight

>>134245450
Yeah the only problem is the western world is not large enough to accomodate the never ending masses of third world poverty stricken economic immigrants
you cannot possibly offset the replenishment rate of their demographics by taking in literally millions per year
all you can do is fuck up the first world while the third world acts like nothing happened in the first place ie fills the population gap with a surplus

you are advocating killing the first world
fuck you cunt

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>>134225540
You gotta admit the Jews are very clever.

Instead of wasting time on a useless war and dropping some nukes in your territories they just killing you with kindness by twisting you culture so you accept unlimited migration from third world countries.

When the jews are done with you, you're gonna be so black that you won't be able to defend yourselves when they take over your territories with their futuristic androids and push you all to the sea.

Rest in pieces white race.

>>134225540
>Korea
>Low fertility country
Holy shit have they not seen the tax incentives?
When I was on a trip in Korea there were families with three kids all over because you get a huge tax break when you have three or more.

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>>134238589
>The birth rates starts to dramatically drops off and dip into below replacement levels at around the 1970s, which is also coincidently when feminism and the sexual revolution becomes mainstream.

Why havent anyone highlighted this clear connection everytime they talk about implementing expensive social welfare programs to improve birth rates, which inevitably fails?

>>134230399
Declining birth rates is a problem that normally would fix itself, remember the "miracle" economy's post ww2 that's what happens when a quarter or more of your workforce dies. Lower unemployment, higher wages, cheaper housing, job security, higher standard of living and actually having enough spare dosh to have 3-4 kids and raise them. These are the EVILS the UN and our govt are saving us from

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>>134225744
Love you Czech bro

I'll fight and die before I see a single shitskin move in

>>134257711
Yea people turn economics into all kinds of voodoo but ultimately your nation has the rights to x natural resources and it gets divided up by as many people as exist. Pretending financial voodoo and bureaucratic fuckery create wealth beyond unlocking some resource gathering potential is a joke.

Is there really anything wrong with gassing people who refuse to fight back beyond whining?

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>>134228470
BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

SAME PEOPLE WHO RUN THE UN
CREATED THE FEDERAL RESERVE
SAME PEOPLE THAT MAKE TAX POLICY AND INFLUENCE WHEN CHILDREN ARE BORN OR NOT
SAME PEOPLE THAT OWN THE MEDIA, MUSIC, AND POP CULTURE INDUSTRY THAT TELLS WOMEN TO WAIT TO HAVE KIDS
SAME PEOPLE WHO OWN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND TELLS GIRLS TO "GO TO COLLEGE" AND "HAVE A CAREER"

KYS

ITS ALL ENGINEERED DESTRUCTION

YOU'RE A SUBHUMAN

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>>134228470
Fuck the economy than if it means destroying my country let it implode i would rather clean up that mess and try to build something better.

>>134226610
Abe had already told them to fuck off. So has Trump. We just need capable leadership, and a normie class that isn't so broken and subverted. We have to push hard, really really fucking hard back over the next 20 years, or the US will be Brazil 2.0. We are on the precipice. But it can be turned around.

Don't give up. Demoralize them. Find your virtue.

>>134260989
This.

>>134228470
The fertility rates they are saying we need were established by asshat shill economics """experts""" who want to prop up the post-Keynesian debt economy. Fuck any white or east Asian who falls for this meme, and allows their country to be overrun because of it.

>>134225540
it's not replacement because they're not killing anyone

it's addition

>>134262350
Its *dysgenic.

ftfy

>>134231170
>Thinking every one of them collects welfare benefits or is a net negative contributor is deluded.
That's true for most of them. Even if they are educated in their countries, it's simply not valid in northern countries for example. You also need to speak the language for a lot of jobs.

>>134260404
Every exponential graph in the world looks like this desu

>>134245450

STOP SENDING FOOD TO AFRICA YOU RETARDS

SEND THE PILL AND CONDOMS INSTEAD

>>134228470
yeah but when the wst has been fed the bullshit of overpopulation for years and come to find out we have all been conned. How can you not see that? They literally convinced white people that not having children is good or at least just one or 2 kids- also some claim now that over population is the climate changer.
How can the economies of Germany and Europe support these immigrants nearly 90% don't contribute to the economy and are just takers from the system a huge drain the ethnic population is literally working to support for the rest of their lives and support to kill their native culture - not share it -KILL IT-

>>134228672
Everyone is sick of you and your Goddamn pet niggers. Get it through your thick fucking skulls,everyone hates niggers and muslims.

>>134225540
This literally wouldn't even be a conversation if we didn't have shitty ponzi-scheme systems like Social Security.

>>134231201
Thank you based Norwegian archiver

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>>134229398
>TIL
FUCKING REDDIT

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>>134225540
I don't see how you people don't understand that whites will always be the superior race in this situation. Yeah, poor gene trash whites will die off but the rest will basically have Roman citizen level status while the cheap imported labor does all the work. Africans are literally too stupid to form meaningful resistance and you can bet your fucking foreskin that the remaining whites will be redpilled as fuck. If this is the kikes' plan they're about to experience the worst backfire in their history of kikeing people.

>>134268181
Who will be paying whites to be aristocrats. This idea makes no sense. The whites are the slaves to the niggers.

>>134268598
>Who will be paying whites to be aristocrats
You're not very bright, are you Juan? The whites will own the companies and businesses since they're the only ones who will be capable of running them to any degree of efficiency. White workers may be vilified by the underclasses but they'll still be a full standard deviation above any nonwhite worker in capability (just like today), and therefore will be in managerial positions if they have to work at all. Mark my words, if this replacement continues democracy will collapse and you'll see white ethnostates with shitskin labor forces pop up all over.
>The whites are the slaves to the niggers
Only the ones who are complete and total idiots.

>>134225540
Remember when the UN was trying to lower the global population?

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>>134225540
So We Fuck the un.
Simple.

>>134260404
This

This was apart of the Big plan to bring about that one world government they all hoped for.

The OP image is good except in the last line, Untermensch does not have an umlaut over the U. uber does, unter doesn't.

>>134268939
Having a managerial position is not being an aristocrat you dumb fuck
And most of the jobs now are bureaucratic make work nonsense anyway that is given to niggers and women. You're completely wrong about everything.

>>134269920
Congratulations on your 3rd grade reading comprehension level. Your genetic line won't live through this so don't worry about your 8 kids.

>>134225540
Francis E Dec, Esq. knew about this in the early 1960s.

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>>134225540
UN has zero power not worried desu

>>134234609
Look at that kike pig. They have to go.

>>134225540
Australia isn't listed so idgaf

>>134240986
It's not legal immigration though. We have legal immigration, the governments have been intentionally ignoring their own laws not prosecuting a majority of people who cross the border illegally.
They don't want to 'fix' immigration, which to them means expanding the existing laws to allow them to bring in more legal migrants.
They want the people here, but they know they couldn't possibly change the actual immigration law so they've been doing this for about 50 years.
It's never been about what you contribute, we already have a system for getting those people into our countries. That's not good enough for the government, they want porous borders where people can flood in and provide cheap labor.
As for the burden on the social systems like healthcare and taxes, I figured out long ago that the democrats do everything they can to overspend so that they can ensure tax increases. They don't think ahead, they don't want to think ahead. Anything that forces everyone into a state of more handouts forever is what they want.
It's why the recent IL budget still has a 4 billion deficit. They're accruing that debt so that next time they want to raise taxes like they just did, it'll be the same excuse, we already spent all the money.
Illegal immigrants are a decision the governments of the first world made on purpose to support our failing financial system that runs on unicorn farts. Taxes will rise, no matter who gets elected, single-payer is inevitable, and once the American healthcare system is under wraps and going even further down the toliet they'll use that as an excuse to take over another industry.
The U.S has been barreling towards banana republic status intentionally.

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>>134225540

WHAT

THE

FUCK

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>>134225540
If get Trump disbands the UN.

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>>134273667
Rerolling.

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>>134225540
>mfw this inbred retard thinks 'muslim' is a race

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>>134234437
I'm with you Hans. Have a burger, a coke and an Asian wife.

>>134273982
not an argument, cletus.

>refuse to have kids
>complain when people try and fix this problem for you and keep your societies running
nobody to blame but yourselves whitey

so Jews are white now? becauee that's the only reason white IQ is high

>>134228470
Economic problems last a generation. Ethnic problems last forever.

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>>134225540
Lets say for a second that the world leaders, the jews, the illuminati wants to remove all whites?

Why whats their end goal?

>>134274078
An argument? I mean you outright just kinda' insulted a guy. I don't think he really gives a shit about an argument. Also Stefan Molyneux is an overly smug faggot with a contradictory ideology.

>>134225540
>has important information that would shock even normies
>has to put the word "untermensch" in it

this is why LARPers will never win

>>134274615
>1 post by this ID
>getting triggered by someone who didn't say shit to you
>getting so triggered that you show up this late in a thread to bitch like a whiny little faggot

fucking lmao.

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>>134274981
Somebodies a bit mad. Didn't really get triggered. Just saw some bitchass on the front page trying to use the "not an argument" meme against someone who literally just traded a mutual insult toward said bitchass. Didn't make sense. Called you and Molyneux out for being insufferable illogical faggots.

But okay.

Also, I sincerely doubt you laughed your ass off over the fact that you were called out by a "whiny little faggot".

>>134274402
Are you mentally retarded or just baiting? If the population continues to decline then the economy will continue to decline with it, it doesn't just stop after a generation. KYS underaged faggot

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>>134275486
>this whiny bitch thinks i'm gonna read his 4chan sperg out

tl;dr asshole. enjoy failing to cope with your impotent rage lol.

>>134275856
Kay

>misplaced ancap smugness intensifies

>>134258335

>Ukraine
>Economy is below Africa-tier
>Quite possibly the most corrupt country in human history

Ivan...YOU are the shitskins.

>>134275999
tl;dr lol. keep bitching, retard.

>>134275743
The black plague ended with Europe entering a golden age of increased wages, workers rights, and innovations to make up the labor shortages. Lowered populations aren't always a bad thing, and they do produce change that can reverse fertility issues caused by the current economic model.

>>134237068
Yes, they're busy killing each other and not organizing against the bankers, corrupt politicians and (((them)))
That's the entire point.

>>134237068
Meanwhile the leaders of those countries are making money hand over the fist while the trash rabble with each other. Basically what they want but in the west.

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>>134225744

what if...it's all bullshit. imagine a world without Whites and Japanese
>is China concerned about the welfare of a burgeoning nigger/sand nigger population?
>Why are there still Whites on this rock after this many millennia?

the UN still has depop on the menu way up at the top, but they can't admit it. that would be like painting a bright, easy-to-see target on themselves. goy v. goy and White daddy will do what black daddy and brown daddy won't do

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>>134225540

WE NEED TO START TO MOBILISE THE TROOPS.

We need to start getting names and posting addresses and making it clear to the UN and UN workers that we know who they are, where they live and can, if we want to, strike out at them with an enormous and very well resourced shadow army.

We have the numbers and we have the victories.
We can do this.

REMEMBER: we are up against a powerful, yet ultimately very, very, VERY small group of people.

We need only make an example of a few of them to get the message across.

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>>134228470
they why did they brainwash westerners with abortion, contraception, ant-family bullshit and selfish hedonism?

>>134278859
then*

>>134278859
anti-family*
fuck me

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>>134225540

Doesn't mention Canada *whew* close call there

>>134278467
THIS

>>134279198
lel
>be canadian
>kill every motherfucking indigenous nigger you can find
>get off scott free by pointing at those white supremacist US genociding rat bastards
>profit

>>134245450
Friendly reminder: When shit hits the fan, traitors die first!

>>134225540
I am glad they are doing this. I am 26yrs now and hope to be part of the race war before 40. Im trained and strapped. Lets go baby. Race war fucking now.

>>134262133
How?

>>134228470
>Implying niggers will contribute to society and not just sit around collecting gibs for generations.

You cant sustain a welfare state by importing welfare recipient's.

>>134225540
I guess time to declare war against the UN?

>>134225540
Stop relying on God. Get organized and arm yourselves.

>>134228915
"Havent succeeded". Paris looks like fucking Nairobi.

>>134229398
>TIL African/Muslim migrants don't pay sales taxes, property taxes, federal taxes, or state taxes.

Get gibs, pay a percentage of gibs in taxes for goods and services, problem solved guys. Youre retarded.

>>134229870
Yeah. Even if they get imployment it will only be because of massive government subsidies to business to encourage employing migrants.

>>134231170
>Thinking every one of them collects welfare benefits or is a net negative contributor is deluded
Stop baiting. 73% of immigrant spics are on welfare

>>134273667
>one off from trips
Kek is fucking dead lol

>>134228470
Who says we need to maximize population?

It's a natural purge. Immigrants aren't needed. The problem will fix itself.

The old will die off, population will stagnate then decline for a bit. Once it hits a threshold, growth rates will increase organically.