UK has illegally detained an American citizen and sentenced them

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Good thing!
Al mawt li amrika

>>134220720
What the fuck is so special about this child that's going to die anyway?

>>134220720
bump this bread

>>134220956
Nothing, it's the circumstances.

For a very long time the Republicans in the US protested any socialized medicine because it would give the Government the ability to decide who lives and who dies. This had no merits to the Democratic voters.

For example, if 90 year old Grandma is sick, they'd probably elect to just allow the pneumonia to kill her instead of doing everything they can. This is probably the best option. But, if the family had $$ money $$, they would be able to pay for Grandma to be hung up by strings like a puppet by paying for her to go to private doctors and have her issues sorted out to the best of their ability.

The crux here being that, the Government has the right to not pay for treatment if they don't think it is worth it, but private citizens could carry on with treatment on their own.

Charlie Gard is a further extension. Government rules that Charlie has no merits in seeking treatment on Government dollar. Sure, fine. But further, Government now has detained the child and is prohibiting it from leaving the country to seek medical treatment at the family's expense in the United States.

This is the nightmare "death panel" scenario Republicans harped on about for seemingly no reason. It's an actual thing transpiring before our eyes.

And now even though Gard is a US Citizen by an act of Congress, the UK courts are refusing to let him leave. An American citizen has been detained without charge and is sentenced to die by neglect. This is against basic human decency. Our Military should extract our citizen.

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The only reason this dead at birth baby is on the telly box is because the media is obsessed with sliding real news.

The parents are selfish, its dead
The doctors are dumb, its dead. Let the selfish parents prolong its suffering at their own expense if they want

We literally give animals better rights and treatment than this.

>>134220720
>fat baby
>American

checks out

>>134221434
No this is an argument against privatised medicine. Where big business perform medical experiment on patients for their own gain. The child is suffering and they want to prolong this despite knowing their is no hope.

>>134221806
*there

>>134220720
Part and parcel. buck-o get used to it.

>>134221806
You're nuts. This is pursuit of scientific development at its finest. They have a hypothesis and the family is willing to allow the treatment. Denying this child treatment is as much a denial of science as it is medical services.

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>>134221698

>>134221806
The fact that you can't see the precedent this sets is terrifying. It essentially will set in stone that your government owns your body.

>>134220720

The UK is a dystopian country on all levels.

>>134222146
>Oy vey little Shaniquah and Tyler are sick
>We have to save little Shaniquah at any cost
>Sorry Tyler, nothing we can do for you. Not enough taxpayer dollars you know?

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inb4 Trump makes an unannounced trip in Air Force 1 to the UK and picks up little Charlie.

>mfw the britcuck police and 800 pakistanis tries to stop him, and gets slaughtered by the Secret Service

>>134220720
It would be like giving an ISIS terrorist $8 million for killing a US soldier..oh wait...

>>134221434
Great post

>>134220720
More like Yanks have yet again chosen to undermine our authority and make a mockery of their so-called "special relationship".

This is infuriating. Lets show the UK why we separated from them

>Mommy, Daddy why does socialized medicine want to kill me..?

Jesus Christ, Yuros are heartless.

>>134221806
Fuck off with the "suffering" meme. Everyone who ever has lived and ever will live has all of eternity to be fucking dead and 0-100 to be alive. If someone can't consent to being killed then you should do all you can to keep them alive, because you sure as shit can't un-kill them and you don't have the right to decide how somebody else feels about suffering vs. life.

>>134222146
>bin that knife citizen cattle and remember that you are always secure beneath the watchful eyes
>Keep Calm and Carry On

I think it's already too late for them.

>Brain damage is severe and irreversible
>Charlie is basically a potato that is in constant, agonizing pain
>American doctors all agree that while they could treat the disease, they will never be able to reverse the brain damage
>There is 0 quality of life in store for his future
>Doctors get together in Britain and decide the most dignified thing to do is to withdraw life sustaining apparatus and let Charlie go
>Family seeks judicial review to the courts. Judge considers the evidence, agrees with the doctors, and upholds their initial decision

He's a vegetable. He cannot survive without constant, around the clock medical intervention. It's the more humane thing to do to just let him fucking go.

>>134222717
>>134222662
>Our doctors have come to a clinical decision that the child is beyond medical treatment.
>An experimental treatment that even its creator has said most likely won't work offers false hope to this child's family, contradicting the medical decision and the oath doctors take, part of said oath is to prevent suffering to their patient, not the patients family.
>Family don't like this, they won't discharge him themselves from the hospital even though they are legally allowed to do this.
>They whore out their child to the media and make the doctors look evil, when they are looking at this case objectively.
Take him to the USA, inject him with experimental drugs, listen to his screams and cries in pain and then watch him die instead of letting him die peacefully.

Idiots.

>>134223058
It's not a question of the state making the decision to kill him, he already has a death sentence, his condition and genetics are going to kill him. The question is, how does he die? Does he die screaming in pain or does he die peacefully. The whole question of life and death is ruled out of this equation. Idiot, so stop trying to force it in when it doesn't belong!

>>134220720
You need to send in Seal Team 6 to kill the parents.

We do not even let a dog live like this yet time after time retarded parents have potatoes which cannot do a thing for themselves or will die without the help of technology and machines and they want it to live.

It is fucking cruel and it is always the taxpayer that has to pick up after this shit.

What happens when the parents die who looks after it? the state.
If the parents get sick of it and give it up who looks after it? the state
Who pays for it? the state

It is a drain on society.

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>>134220720
please do, fuck united cuckdom and fuck communist medicine

>>134223392
These are the very Americans that will call for potatoes to be killed if it was any other country.

No objectivity, no logic, no reason, no rationality. Just emotions, emotional messes that seem to think that the doctors are killing him instead of the mithochondrial depletion syndrome his inbred parents cursed him with. Sorry if that's harsh but it's the truth. That is not to say I don't understand their emotional pain. But they really should put their childs needs first, not their own selfish emotions.

>>134223573
>Sweden
Don't you have some Somalian cock to be servicing? Go do that Sven and stay out of this.

>>134221806
kill yourself

>>134223693
People in glass houses should not be throwing stones. You can shit talk Sweden when you've reclaimed London.

>>134223337
You're trying to reason with seppos, don't bother. They're the kings of having zealous opinions about things they know little about and then sticking their fingers in their ears and screaming if anyone tries to inform them.

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>>134223693
kill yourself commumist cuckold

britcucks are insufferable

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>>134223573
We don't use dollars in the UK, Ahmed. Your picture is fake.

>>134220956
Remember gay marriage? Now look at everything. Now extend it to this. Killing is okay because reasons. Then it will extend to stuff that was never intended to address. Same thinking as gun removal. The ideal is worth more than the reality because people get it wrong and because there are those who will misuse it. If you give an inch, they will take a mile.

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>baby with severe genetic brain damage
>complete vegetable with no cure
>((yank doctors)): oy vey I can fix him for 5 million dollars
>ends up on life support for years at the expense of the British taxpayer

No.

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>>134223783
And you're 54% white so take your own advice you nigger.

>>134223791
I will reason with them and win, however stupid they are.

>>134223832
>Posts a photoshop that was made in /brit/pol, in the very thread I was in when it was made.

This image isn't shopped.

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>>134223870
your picture is fake you fucking subhuman

>>134220720
>>134221434
Permanent legal residence isn't the same thing as citizenship.

>>134223337
Like I would trust any doctor in the UK. Anglos are the most retarded race of all whites. I prefer slavs over you fucks

>>134223693
>flagposting
>british cuck fantasies

No surprise there

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>>134223932
ok buddy

>>134223633
What the child needs is some good old American medicine.
>tfw UK doctors are just too afraid to get schooled by superior American medical technology.

What if the Treatment works and now we have a solid new way to heal people?
for all we know that kid could grow up and cure cancer but you would never let that happen if you abort him and deny him god's gift of life.

>>134220956
they jews want him dead because he is the new drowned turk baby/bombed syrian kid and he is white so tehy need to shut him down

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>>134223965
It is you Nordics that are inbred with your tiny genepool.

Go fix it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3038084/Norway-taking-foreign-children-away-parents-highest-rates-inbreeding-world-Country-forced-deny-claims-Lithuanian-child-taken-care.html

Oh wait, you are, like this.

>>134224036
>Nigger president twice
Just shit off.

>>134224018
>OY VEY GOY PLEASE LET ME TAKE YOUR FORESKIN! OY GEVALT THAT'LL BE 10 TRILLION DOLLARS FOR A BANDAGE!!!
lol.....

>>134224061
The child is going to die, unless you can fix organelles in every single cell in the human body and reverse brain damage, shut the fuck up.

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>>134221434
well said, guns are ready

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>>134224061
m8....the 'cure' that yanks are proposing is some special food that costs millions that COULD decrease brain damage by 4 fucking %

what's the goddamn point

>>134220720
is it time to wreck teafaggots again

>>134223884
If it leads to eugenics then what's the problem? That's a good thing. Why do you want to live in a nation if braindead mongs?

>>134224246
The "cure" is for another type of this disorder that doesn't even work... It's not a cure, it buys some time. Like chemo/radiation for a terminally ill cancer patient. It is pointless and needless suffering.

>>134224344
>KILL WHITEY!!
There's that inner black lives matter bullshit we know and love from the yanks.
>inb4 the baby
He's a potato and going to die anyway.

>>134221806

You're a retard. Make up all you want about whether or not you think this baby should be killed but think about the future for once,.

If you're on your deathbed with cancer, and your only two choices are possibly living or certainly dying, are you just gonna pick dying? Because in the circumstances here, the government is literally deciding that this child has no right to seek medical care. This means they can do this to YOU, or YOUR family for whatever reason they deem.

>>134224246
wtf I hate science now

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>>134224246
the point is propaganda value and $

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>>134224402
america should go in and gun those authoritarian cucks down

>>134224402
Eugenics won't be in the hands of good people, because bad people will jockey themselves into positions of power to abuse it and keep the good people out.

>>134224452
You're probably trolling. I can't imagine anyone willing to believe that the Government should have absolute right to exercise who lives and dies, especially when there are viable alternatives that the family is willing to take.

If you actually believe this you're going to be strung up by your own noose eventually. You live in a country slowly sliding into Sharia, and a country where Lolicon is considered Child Pornography. One day the gun will be pointed at you.

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>>134224452
>Doesn't even work
>What is an experimental treatment

Faggot with a socialized medical system thinks his wisdom should drive medical experimentation. Brilliant.

>>134224365
Note: jail, not prison.

Complete non-story.

>>134223337
>trusting third world bong doctors to know he has a death sentence
>enthusiastically welcoming the empowerment of your government to override the will of its citizens
holy hell you brits are hopelessly cucked

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>>134220720
En route.

>>134223932
%79.96 actually but thank you for your concern Ahmed.

>>134223326

Read my post : >>134224546


The second you start allowing the government to decide whether or not YOU have the right to live, is when you're fucked. No matter the circumstances in this particular case.

>>134221806
So you'd rather just die than try an experimental treatment that may save you or, if it doesn't, will help scientists tweak it for future patients?

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>>134224652
kek you ultra cuck

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>>134221806
>Government doesn't act in it's own self interest and has purely selfless interests
UK anons are even more retarded than normal when it comes to medical care.

You all are a disgrace compared to the great men that built your empire.

Christcucks want the baby to suffer when it should die a natural death

permanent residence =/= citizen

>>134224546
>If you're on your deathbed with cancer, and your only two choices are possibly living or certainly dying, are you just gonna pick dying?
Rephrase that.

If the choice is buying some time with extra pain and the same condition getting worse or just going peacefully in my sleep.

Then you're more on track with what's going on, get it through that fat skull of yours, there is no cure. The parents already know there is no cure, it's about buying extra time...

His death is sealed and that cannot be reversed by anyone. So stop thinking it can you retard.

>>134224642
The government is not making this decision you retard.

>>134224650
>Prolong suffering is okay guys!!!
So you'd be happy for me to inject you with sulfuric acid because I think it might cure you of your crippling retardation? Good to know!

>>134224698
>Third world
lol. That's rich coming from the land of the foreskin snatchers.

>>134224716
Minus the hispanics Jamal Liquinashia Omanique.

>>134224639
>good guys and bad guys
Puerile.

You need to understand, no one would mind the baby having treatment in the US

The problem is that even if it was impossibly successful, it would still be a vegetable it's entire life that the NHS would have to pay for

Do you want American tax payers to foot the bill

Didn't think so

>>134221434
>this baby will die
>(corporate interests) want to try experiments to vivisect the baby for profit
Just let it die in peace greedy fucks

>>134223917
Doesn't matter what you think is right or wrong retard. The family should have the OPTION to do the dumb procedure. You're missing the point of the argument you yellow toothed biscuit eating faggot

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>>134224783
UK anons unironically think their opinion should be the primary consideration in the healthcare decisions of people they have never met. They are truly cucked sheep, and I will cheer every cultural enrichment they receive from this point forward.

>>134224931

There are numerous people who live with disorders where their life expectancy is less than 50. They are destined to die but prolong their life.

This isn't about the fucking baby you idiot. Open your eyes and read between the lines. The government is deciding that this individual has no right to seek medical attention, and has decided that they -MUST- die.

You can scream "Slippery slope" all you want but your country is already fascist as fuck with ID checks to buy plastic knives, and home owners getting sued when burglars hurt themselves breaking in. Do you really think letting the government hand out death sentences to non-criminals is a good fucking idea?

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>>134221434
Im ready to make the brits pay in blood for detaining one of our own. Those shitskin sympathizers will get whats coming.

>>134225129
NOT IF THE FUCKING TAX PAYER HAS TO PAY FOR THE LITTLE GENETIC FAILURE

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>>134224931
>So you'd be happy for me to inject you with sulfuric acid because I think it might cure you of your crippling retardation? Good to know!
You oughta be ashamed of yourself. You know this argument is complete bullshit.

Pathetic sheep trying to justify his god complex.

>>134224931

And yes, it IS the government making this decision.

The doctors said they don't think there is any possible help, and the JUDGE, in a COURT has to give them permission to leave the country to seek medical attention with their own money.

>>134224931
Even the Yank Dr is saying that he can't save the kid, only potentially alleviate the original condition. He's admitted the kid will still be brain dead yet these morons are acting as though he'll perform a miracle.

Its not an argument of life or death. It's an argument of death or letting a Yank doctor experiment on the poor little sod by abusing the parents refusal to accept his passing.

>NoGunz surveillance state welfare rat limeys going full Bin That Life on their own people
Not surprised.

>>134225296
Tax payer wouldn't be paying for it, they've raised their own money for treatment. Sorry that you'd rather help rapefugees than a native white baby.

>>134221513
"he" not "it" you sick fuck

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>>134225296
>Uniornically ok with sacrificing infants he's never met to his socialist god

>>134225360

Read the thread you daft cunt. It's not about the baby. It's about the fact that the government is deciding to end a non-criminals life

>>134225171
If we're paying for that childs care? You're damn fucking right we have an opinion and yes that opinion matters, so why don't you stick a cock in it and shut your idiotic cunting little mouth?

Good boy.

>>134225227
Right how many times does this have to be explained to you? What are you not understanding about this condition? It has been looked at even by this American doctor, he came to the UK and met the baby, ordered a scan of the baby's brain and he has even said that there's minimal chance of success and it is not a cure.

Read the fucking case before you comment and then you will understand and be in agreement with us.

>>134225297
No it's not bullshit, you have no problem with me injecting you with something experimental to cure you of your sickness, even though it will cause you great pain and you'll still be retarded. I'm glad we cleared this up!

>>134225351
No it is not.

>>134225296
does it really matter tho, you are already spending millions on other useless refugees cuck

>>134225430
And who do you think pays for it when it comes back to the UK still inevitably braindead

>>134225471
I'm not a socialist, but that's the system that's unfortunately in place

>>134225509
Let americans pay to keep it on life support it's entire life, then I would give no shit

>>134225227
>your country is already fascist as fuck
"MUH FASCISM" - what are you, Antifa? I fucking wish we were.

>>134225478
>The government is deciding to end his life.

I'm sorry did the government give birth to this child and did the government cause the genetic illness he has?

Wow that damn gubmint sure is ebul!!! PRAISE JEBBBBUSSSS!

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>>134225450
he's dead jim...

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>>134220720
Okay so if the right to bear arms (guns etc) is a right but the left tries and trample all over it all day every day what's to stop people who oppose medical care as a right from doing exactly what the left does and try and remove it?

>>134225487

"The parents' barrister Grant Armstrong said the parents were of the view that legally it was up to the hospital to change its mind and allow Charlie to be transferred.

But Mr Justice Francis said the effect of the various rulings meant the court's permission was required."

The court literally has to give them permission to get medical treatment, and they're denying it.

>>134225649
Who says they come back to the UK? Why would they go back to a country that sentenced their son to death but is all too willing to let Muhammad on welfare and breed mongrel kids with white women that the British tax payer is going to have to pay for?

>>134225021
>willingly pay the welfare of thousands of third world immigrants

>but one handicapped English baby? That's just going too far, cut the life support

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>Be UK Anon
>Government sacrificing me for cultural enrichment
>Has taken weapons away from me, rendering me nothing but a serf
>At least I can sacrifice an infant to my socialist god

UK Anons are simultaneously the most pious and immoral faggots when it comes to healthcare. I will laugh when I read of the next UK terrorist attack.

Canada had a similar problem with the government not allowing private care in some circumstances until their courts finally ruled it against human rights. "Public option" quickly becomes "single payer" in a literal sense when these power hungry bureaucrats get a hold of your healthcare decisions.

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>>134224931
I understand what you're saying mate but honestly to me it comes down to the Parent's authority on their child's choice.

The problem I see coming from allowing the child to die is the legal precedent has been set on allowing patients to die if care would lead to "suffering" it'll challenge anti-assisted suicide laws.

If that baby dies here, then it might end up allowing people to end their own suffering in the long run. However while that sounds good I guess I feel the parents must get the say on it. It's their child. it's their responsibility to pay (which they can) for further treatment rather than the NHS doing it since they feel ending it is the better option.

It's fucked mate.

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>>134225830
Ah yes I remember saying I support welfare of immigrants

>>134225756
>The parents' barrister Grant Armstrong said the parents were of the view that legally it was up to the hospital to change its mind and allow Charlie to be transferred.
Well it's not, the parents have the right to discharge him from GOSH's care but if they do that he dies because he'll no longer have medical equipment provided by the hospital. So why don't US doctors fly over their equipment, why don't the Vatican fly over their equipment in preparation?

Oh yeah not enough £££££ raised to pay for it all. But you rally against the state and then demand that the state continue to pay for the care. Funny shit..

>But Mr Justice Francis said the effect of the various rulings meant the court's permission was required."

The court, independent of government, no decision has been made. The parents can walk right out with Charlie right now. But they won't for the reason I said above. >>134225856
Shut the fuck up retard.

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>>134225487
Your opinions mean nothing, you will all be muslim soon, and when you are we will strike. Your days are numbered.

>>134225982
The legal precedent for people to die was set years ago when Dignitas clinics started popping up in the Nordic countries.

Take it up with them, the child is already dead.

TOP KEK AMERISHIT!!! Oh believe you me, us British are ITCHING for a war with America. We will fucking ANNIHILATE your dirty country. There wouldn't be a square meter of US soil that has running water, electricity, or hamburgers that isn't on fire, once our airforce and navy is done bombarding your defenseless country. Then, our army boys (we'd send the Pakis and Muslims first) would swoop in, raping your women, and killing EVERY scooter-ridden american they see. When Britain is done with you, we will have committed acts of genocide. Of course no one is gonna do shit about it.

>>134225070
>Family of the child wants to personally and privately pay for medical care
>bong count says no
fug off

>>134226091
I was more meaning those types of clinics being allowed in the UK itself.

>>134225478
At worst they're deciding to no longer prolong it.

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I wonder what the Nazi's would do

please do lol
i'm sick of this faggot fucking country

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>>134226142
You have no idea what we will do to your shitskin nation, come try us and we will show you the war of 1812 all over again. This time we will wipe you off the map. You muslim piles of shit deserve your reckoning at the hand of Donald J. Trump.

>>134225699
the morality is irrelevant
The family of the child has chosen to privately seek medical care, they should then be allowed to do so, for the costs would be exclusively on the family, government would not be paying a dime

>>134226042
And your life means nothing so we're even.

>>134226201
They should be allowed, why should people be forced to suffer in pain? Hospice's already essentially act as killing wards, when you have elderly people dying of urosepsis or cancer and all the morphine is pumped into them kills them eventually.

You ever been in a hospice and heard all the death rattles and stench of death?

>>134221806
If I was dying I'd be desperate enough to let doctors try any experimental treatment on me as long as it sounded reasonable.

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>>134226317
we won 1812 tho

>>134221806
This is how treatments and cures are discovered you fucking faggot.

>>134226209
They decided that a long time ago, but now they are holding him against the family's will.

>>134226352
They've raised money for the treatment, not the lifetime of life support the NHS would pay for

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And I thought America was having problems with some of our insurance companies offering to pay for euthanasia in lieu of treatment. Good to know it's a little bit worse somewhere else.

>>134225982
Equally you could argue letting them have that liberty sets a bad precedent in cases of parental child abuse.

>>134226487
you declared war on us, again with overwhelming resources, and managed to not take a single fucking city until a white peace was signed.

>>134226487
>1812 is the last time a Britt ever felt proud

damn

>>134226405
Thankfully no. I honestly refuse to send my own parents to such a place from the shit I hear. My family has always taken care of the Elder members and hopefully (dear god I dread the thought) my own children will do the same for myself.

>>134226017

"And last Friday, the judge made it clear it would be illegal for Charlie to travel to America without his permission."

No, they can't just pull him out and leave. Also;

>Court independent of government

You fucking what?

>>134226263
nazis wouldnt have given rapefugees welfare and had a enough money to support this kid thus never having this discussion

>>134220720
>those hairs
REEEE WHY THOSE FUCKING RACIST SHITLORDS WANT A WHITE BABY TO LIVE. HE NEED TO DIE TO MAKE MORE SPACE FOR MUH PEACEFUL MUSLIM

>>134221513
Youre fucking amoral as shit. You dont let people you love die just because it's a difficult process, you sacrifice to let them live

Not even fucking ISIS is as morally depraved as you - they actually believe they're helping their children.

>>134226614
>yanks try to invade Canada
>Britain comes over, burns down the white house and prevents them invading Canada

sounds like a win to me

>>134226619
Winning the Falklands singlehandedly was pretty gud

More recent than any way the US has won

>>134226614
I thought you chums declared war first? Man it was such a pointless war for both sides.

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>>134226487
Laugh it up muhammed, we can and will crush you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures

>>134221806
>government decides to kill people
>"fuck u Walmart"
You need to be Death Panel'd

>>134226722
They would have used his ass for medical testing too. The Nazis were extremely impressive when it came to science and medicine.

>>134226722
Actually the Nazi's terminated the disabled buddy

>>134225487
>if we're paying
read the point you stupid ass nigger
the FAMILY has chosen to pay
the government WOULD NOT be paying any money whatsoever
HOWEVER, despite this, the government is preventing the child from leaving the hospital that they plan to kill them in

>>134222146
This guy gets it

>>134226791
To be fair we were fighting the Military equivalent to the shortbus. At the time it was mcsweatybumtime. But when we landed it just started collapsing in after we landed on the shores.

Though their missles were pretty good.

>>134226914
LET THE BABY LIVE ON LIFE SUPPORT IN AMERICA THEN

OH WAIT IT WON'T IT WOULD COME STRAIGHT BACK TO THE UK AND COST MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF POUNDS

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Just read the article...

>But legal sources said Charlie is the subject of a High Court order and it made no difference what passport he held.

>And last Friday, the judge made it clear it would be illegal for Charlie to travel to America without his permission.

IF YOU GO TO AMERICA FOR TREATMENT, LITTLE BABY...WE'LL....THROW YOU IN JAIL WHEN OR IF YOU SURVIVE AND COME BACK HERE

This is literally modern Britain.

I am disgusted when I see monarchists in my country. Fuck the UK anymore, I see no parallel between my life and British culture anymore. I'd sooner become a part of the United States.

Can you please annex us, America? We have lots of delicious resources and the whites are hard working people.

>>134223326
Bullshit, you fucking liar. The whole point of the article is that he IS SURVIVING WITHOUT ASSISTANCE and he is capable of seeing AND hearing. Your liar doctors are killing a child because they want to.

>>134226677
"Independent Judiciary".

Don't try to conflate the two, I know you Americans love doing that but no.

>And last Friday, the judge made it clear it would be illegal for Charlie to travel to America without his permission.
He's now got American citizenship, that decision is null and void. There is NOTHING stopping him from going right now except the fact the parents need the NHS equipment and will drag this out until they raise even more cash to cover travel equipment for his needs.

You know what, I want the Americans to treat him and I want the little tyke not to suffer but it will be an "I TOLD YOU SO" moment that no one will enjoy. That child will suffer, this treatment will not work and then you are going to end up looking silly. But no you won't put your hands up and say "whoopsies we made that little tyke suffer even more, hehehe thanks for the 10 million dollars".

You try to smear my morality and our doctors morality when your kike doctor only wants shekels.

Cunt.

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>>134226142
You know I would be worried but how are you going to get your soldiers over here?

We sort of took the title of best navy quite a few years ago.

>>134226791
>More recent than any way the US has won

We've won the culture war. Your kids consume our media.

>>134227065
Thank you for dealing with that retard.

>>134226914
Retard.

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>>134221434
>our military should extract our citizen

Who's going to do that then? Your soldiers are all gear no idea, gun blazing, situationally disaware narcissists.

I do agree with you though, not that it matters because he might live for another 2 years or so and die slowly and almost entirely unaware of himself.

>>134220720
In the UK, the state owns your body and decides if you live or die.

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>>134227235
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures The only reason your country exists is because we will it.

>>134227246
>The state gave this child an incurable genetic condition with no survival rate, only suffered by 16 people in history.

Yeah sure....

>>134227235
>Your soldiers are all gear no idea, gun blazing, situationally disaware narcissists.

And your military answers to them kek

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>>134225450
Its dead
Keeping a corpse technically alive with drugs is a level of selfish cruelty only achievable by humanity

>>134227235
I mean at least they have guns, I doubt the police in whatever shithole city the hospital is in aren't armed. So we could send them in with spoons or some harsh language and that'd also get the job done.

Do it. We are ruled by a nest of vipers so just do it. Carpet bomb everything.

>>134227399
>Keeping a corpse technically alive with drugs is a level of selfish cruelty only achievable by humanity

Why is it cruelty? What is cruel about wanting to study the kid and try to prevent this in the future? Do you think medicine is cruel?

>>134227365
Please the US has literally never won a war without help from other countries

I don't like saying it but Americans are just not good at war.

>>134224402
>Why do you want to live in a nation if braindead mongs?

Because you guys provide us with a few good chuckles now and then.

>>134227246
How else are we supposed to solve the Non-White PROBLEM?

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>>134227246

>>134226773
>implying the ultimate sacrifice isn't them letting him pass on
This is fundamentally them not being willing to accept that their kid is functionally dead.

Now instead of being able to grieve and move on with family to support them this has become an international fucking incident with everyone arguing over whether their kid should be used as a medical test subject or not. This is the worst outcome for them.

>>134227512
kek, London doesn't even belong to you pathetic faggots anymore.

At least we still fight.

>>134227541
Wahey.

>>134227500
Because the child is in pain, we are not sick like you are. If something is suffering with no possibility of life you end it, you put it out of its misery quickly.

We really should just put the USA out of its misery. 54% white, JAYSUS!!!! How would you like to die?

>>134227550
Yeah, I'm sure your government is going to use it to remove to non whites and not use it to lower the white population even more.

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ITT: Britbongs unironically defend the killing of a defenseless baby when there are people offering to do everything possible to save it with no inconvenience to the UK at all

>the baby must die
>the Queen requires fresh stem cells to keep her mind youthful and active

>>134227132

I have no idea what you're trying to imply with the independent court thing or why you even brought it up.

Either the court is part of the government, in which case the government is deciding this child gets no medical attention.

Or the court is independent of government, in which case literally who's are getting to decide the life of other peoples children.

Where in the article does it say that this is null and void? He isn't a US citizen, he's been granted legal residency in the US. He's still a UK citizen, and his parents will be thrown in jail if they try to take him to America.

>>134227642
62%

>>134227701
>Because the child is in pain
>>Keeping a corpse technically alive with drugs

So corpses can feel pain now? How do you even know he feels pain or is aware?

>>134227754
Let us just get something clear.

THE BABY ALREADY HAS A DEATH SENTENCE WITH NO FUCKING CURE, HIS FATE IS SEALED, HE WILL DIE WITH OR WITHOUT TREATMENT.....!

Do you get it now?

>>134221434

man that was one hell of a rundown. an advanced gesalt

>>134222312
You're purposely making a strawman that does not accurately reflect the situation. The parents aren't asking for government money. It's the complete opposite, they have their own funds.

>>134227840
Because clearly the State is omniscient and can determine these things. All hail the State. God save the Queen.

Isn't the brat braindead anyways?

Waste of money desu, moralfags need to kill themselves.

>>134221806
Hitler!

>>134227737
I'm not defending the current government

>His doctors say he is blind, deaf, unable to move and badly brain-damaged and believe it is 'cruel' to let him live any longer

hey one never knows, he could grow up to be the next Obama

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>>134227512
Sorry I don't speak Arabic. Try again shitskin.

>>134227132
>smear our morality
Don't forget undermining our authority as a nation state. The far more unforgivable act, though far from the first.

We should've cut all ties with the cunts when they tried to turn us in to their forward operating base in the Cold War.

>>134227838
We are a bunch of mongrels with no real culture, it doesn't matter if we die off because no actual ethnic group will be dying. When Europe falls that's it for Europeans.

Posting 62% isn't going to stop this.

>>134227863

You don't know that for sure, fucker. There have been plenty of medical advancements where people with previously life threatening diseases can now survive.

Do you know what syphilis does if it's not treated with drugs? It fucking kills you. Oh wow, I guess we should've never come up with those drugs and just let people who look like zombies walk around.

>>134227754
I'd give up all the babies in the world to save the Queen desu

>>134220956
Something slope..

>>134227840
Not the same poster, his cells are literally dying because no ATP is being made, each organelle is starved of energy and dies slowly.

So yes, I'd imagine he's in an immense amount of pain, even with pain killers.

>>134227831
Courts are independent of the government in this country unless it's arbitration then it follows state guidelines. So just shut the hell up.

This is a case of a state run institution (the NHS) going to the courts and even the European Court (who also denied the parents).

Idiot.

>>134227840
one of the main issues in this case is the amount of pain killers being used to prolong it.
but im sure that can be justified with some gymnastics

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>>134227863

Then why is there a doctor in America offering treatment that could potentially save the baby's life? He's only got a death sentence by the standards of your fucking shit-tier doctors, who are under-educated and over-worked.

American medicine is the best in the world because it's the BEST money can buy. Your NHS is a piece of fucking SHIT that kills babies because "lol it's just cheaper this way".

Fuck off you limey cunt, I hope Muslims completely destroy your shithole island.

AMERICA: your hat is formally requesting that you nuke the UK from space.

>>134227918
I'm just saying, giving European government power over European lives seems pretty risky. It's already the way it is though so it doesn't matter.

>>134228114

Oh, so your life can literally be made forfeit by not even the government? Just some random chaps? That's soooo much better. Thanks Mohammad.

>>134228002
>You don't know that for sure, fucker. There have been plenty of medical advancements where people with previously life threatening diseases can now survive.
The doctors do know this for sure and even the American doctor that offers this cure has said this.

What are you not grasping? You hold out for hope when there is none at the behest of increased suffering and pain.

>>134220956

There is nothing.

the media must be loving all this hype generated out of nothing, bet it's bringing them a tonne of shekels.

>unironically not realising by perpetuating this story you're giving the MSM what they crave... a story they can market in every which way

>>134227701
AHAHAHA, you're one to talk, retard. I sincerely hope Scotland nukes you or something

>>134228114
>his cells are literally dying because no ATP is being made, each organelle is starved of energy and dies slowly.

That's tragic, we should study him to see if we can prevent this for any future child at risk.

>>134228145
>Then why is there a doctor in America offering treatment that could potentially save the baby's life? He's only got a death sentence by the standards of your fucking shit-tier doctors, who are under-educated and over-worked.
Can you fucking read the thread? The doctor in America is now in the UK and has given the child a brain scan, the doctor has said this treatment is unlikely to work because of the type of MDS this child has..

>>134228216
His life was made forfeit by his genetic condition Jamal.....

I dont get why they want the baby to die so much. The parents raised the money, the US has permission for them. What's the worst thing to let them have a chance to try to save the baby?

What's wrong with the british?

>>134223337
>>134223791
Lol, the Anglo can't wait to kill their progeny. You kikes are worse than us on the scale of collective suicide.

>>134228350
No, man, just fucking kill him! It's cruel for him to not die in vain!

>>134228423

we are baby haters obviously.

>>134228225

Because the main point here isn't baby. It's that the court can decide you don't have a right to seek medical attention, and arrest you if you try.

The secondary point is that if the baby is going to die for sure anyways, why not try the experimental treatment that may save his life?

Either he's a braindead sensory-numb potato or he can feel pain and knows what suffering is. Pick one.

>>134228388
So were people with Crohn's disease before medical science made it possible for them to live.

>we should waste millions on one brat just so he might grow up to be be mentally retarded instead of dead

Fuck off retard, this is the rare point when a Yuropoor is correct, it's just one life among millions.

>>134228388
>His life was made forfeit by his genetic condition Jamal.....

Forfeit to who? The state?

>>134228182
I could say my opinion but I'm already on post licence from the ((())) controlled GCHQ and they monitor all of my posts
If we kicked them ((())) out...

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>>134228388

>the child is not allowed to leave Britain at all
>he must die
>it is illegal to take him anywhere for treatment because we think he's going to die
>so just fucking die already little baby you are making Great Britannia look bad RREEEEEE FUCKING SICK BABY MANDATORY ABORTIONS FOR ALL WHITE COUPLES FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS WE MUST NOT HAVE A REPEAT OF THIS INCIDENT

Fuck off cunt, your doctors have been spewing the same shit BEFORE that testing was even done. They didn't even BOTHER with the testing, they just said "lol he's fukt m8, let's grab a pint innit"

It's disgusting how brainwashed and cucked you faggots are. Holy shit.

>>134223326

Who says retards can't have a good time?

>>134228532

There was an American guy in the media here who has a son in a similar condition and was saying something like "look they saved my son with this treatment" meanwhile his son is strapped in some sort of trolley which keeps him upright, can't see, can't speak, drooling. and the guy is like "see, he is alive, if it wasn't for this treatment he would be dead" .wtf.

>>134228388
It doesn't matter, the issue here is no whether or not Charlie lives. The issue here is a death panel governed by statist bootlickers literally overruling the parent's rights and disrespecting the fundamentally democratic right of freedom of travel.

>>134226001
If you don't support it do something about it instead of whinging about you kin!

>>134221912
You are replying to someone that probably believes in man made global warming/climate change. Real science evades them.

>>134228532
problem is their family is paying for it, not their government, fucking let them, its not the governments choice as to whether someone lives or dies you fucking communist boomer nigger, i can't wait when your kind go extinct.

>>134228833

Probably a student at Cambridge.

>>134228532
>it's just one life among millions.

Everyone is one life among millions, even billions. Let's just stop saving everyone based on their significance kek.

I mean really, you have no grounds to argue this. The parents are funding his move here and the doctors agreed to it. This costs tax payers nothing but the state wants the kid dead. The child belongs to the state and not the parents at this point, how can you think that's ok?

>>134228339
Oh look another retarded MOREDICK nation talking... Kill yourself cuck.

>>134228350
Only 16 people in history have suffered this condition. I would agree that his case should be studied in the hopes of actually finding a cure/real treatment and not the snake oil the American kike is offering, hopefully this case has raised enough awareness of this condition to actually make it onto researchers lists. Cancer and HIV currently hog all the attention...

>>134228491
>So were people with Crohn's disease before medical science made it possible for them to live.
This is nowhere near the level of Chron's disease and comparing it or even using an analogy like that is idiotic... This is every single cell in the human body dying because no cellular energy is being made in the mitochondria... Please do contact me when you find a way to cure that. I'll suck your fucking dick for you and praise you as a God.

>>134228491
>Because the main point here isn't baby. It's that the court can decide you don't have a right to seek medical attention, and arrest you if you try.
If it causes cruel and unnecessary suffering then no. You have laws in the United States that protect criminals from cruel and unusual punishment. Patients are protected the same way.

>Either he's a braindead sensory-numb potato or he can feel pain and knows what suffering is. Pick one.
Again two posters, I believe the child is in a lot of pain, and you can be a potato and feel pain. Retard.

>>134220720
The UK would rather let people die than admit that US healthcare is better than their NHS.

Well an Australian was killed by an American so get fucked

>>134221806
I had a 1% chance to live when I contracted meningitis about a decade back. Doctors had an experimental treatment and they told my parents about it. Parents decided fuck it, last chance. Here I am.
"Big Business" saves more lives then your shitty socialized healthcare system by huge margins.

Also you don't get to set the precedent for who lives and dies, and now your piece of shit government has literally detained an American citizen and are essentially sentencing them to death by refusing for that said person to go about getting the treatment.

Europe has failed. You guys need a fucking revolution bad.

>>134228851

This.

Britcucks can't wrap their heads around this because they've never tasted freedom. They rely on the gov't for literally everything. They've been ruled like peasants for thousands of years, it's all they know.

What's worse, though, is that they adamantly defend this system tooth and nail. It's pathetic.

Lmao what you faggots gonna do about it? Tony Blair is already fucking his rotting corpse

>>134229044
Don't call that Somali nigger an American, he was no such thing.

>>134228686
And he's ran out of arguments and resorts to Sharia posting.

Well done retard.

>>134228851
His death sentence was granted to him by his genetic condition, not the state, not "bootlickers". Again the question isn't about live or die, it's about die quick with minimal pain or die slow in agony. Pick which one you would like and remember those are the only two options in this scenario. Stop trying to bring in another factor, there isn't one, not for this case.

>>134228833
But it's not up to the court to make a medical decision when the family has funding for further treatment. If we go to a single payer system, does that mean the courts decide who will and will not get treatment?

>>134226773
How is saying the parents can keep it/him/whatever alive on their own dime amoral?

>>134223326
>Doctors get together in Britain and decide the most dignified thing to do is to withdraw life sustaining apparatus and let Charlie go
>>Family seeks judicial review to the courts. Judge considers the evidence, agrees with the doctors, and upholds their initial decision

>>>>>>doctors
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(((medical professionals)))

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not family

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>>134220720
>'We just passed amendment that grants permanent resident status to #CharlieGard and family so Charlie can get the medical treatment he needs.'
>Congress passes an amendment to give permanent residency to a particular personal

Burger, can you explain how does it work? What kind of "amendment" he's talking about and why Congress is even involved? I thought it was the State Dept. responsibility.

>>134224982
You're retarded, anon. Can't even understand simple concepts.

>>134229002

let's say they do move to America.

After the money they have raised for healthcare has ran out, which it will. who is going to continue to pay for lifelong treatment, the American taxpayer?

you are happy to pay your taxes to cover the medical expenses of an immigrant from another nation? never thought an American would agree to this.

>>134223337
So if he is probably brain dead what would be wrong with doing the medical procedure? It would help people in the future with similar cases.
If he isn't brain dead then why would you just straight up kill them instead of trying a 1 in 100000 chance of saving them?

Why the fuck is the government deciding the fate of the baby instead of the family?

>>134222146
Yup. Just like in China.
This is communism.
The liberals are making this happen.

>>134229091
The EU court has also told the parents that Charlie shouldn't be given any treatment.

Why no hate directed towards them? Oh yeah because that would mean that independent groups from other nations have seen this case hands on and know the outcomes and prospects. You? You're emotionally vested and are comparable to a SJW thinking with feels instead of logic. This is why you're a cuck.

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>>134229091

>>134227235
>we might be broke and collared but we're super elite guys we promise

k

>>134229276
Lol, fuck off, I'd pay just to spite you cunts calling for his death. You are putting monetary value on a human life, which is lessons on kike behavior 101.

Americans are like children. The kid's a fukin vegetable, let him go

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>>134229335
>the EU court

>>134226791
>Implying a political loss is the same as a military loss

The United States hasn't militarily lost a single war since it's creation.

Politically, like 2. But if Generals were in charge of declaring a victory or a loss we have basically won every single one of them.

>Muh VIETNAAM

We slaughtered the entire nation and the Vietnamese asked for a sit down because they were a year away at most from total U.S. domination of the entire country with eyes set on China. Funny how that always gets left out when people talk about that war.

>>134229335
Because outside of the EU no one gives an actual fuck what the EU says, Nigel. They might as well be the UN for all the fuck we care about what they say.

>>134228145
>that could potentially save the baby's life?
If you have a very reductive definition of "life", sure.

>>134229276
You sound like a dirty kike, putting material wealth over the life of a white child

>>134229482

you can spare 10's of millions for round the clock american healthcare which would be required? wow you must be rich as fuck

>>134221806
The UK deserves everything coming to it.

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>>134229335

>EU Court

Precisely why Britain needed to LEAVE the EU.

The EU is no different than the cancerous Marxist institutions that have filled Britain's gov't for decades. We're seeing the same shit cropping up here in Canada.

CENTRALIZED CONTROL OF ALL INFORMATION AND ACTIVITIES. THE KREMLIN HAS DECLARED ALL BABIES MUST DIE.

Keep in mind, you're the one advocating for the murder of a baby. There's literally no reason not to give him the treatment. It's not your money, or the gov'ts money. It's not your time or effort, or the gov'ts.

Yet you still want the baby to die. It MUST die.

In 20 years the NHS will be euthanizing people with hangnails. Have fun you little puke.

>>134229641

a vegetable*

with no value to society.

>>134228216
You mean like Police Officers?

>>134229639

I wasn't aware you were the person who gets to decide whether or not someones life is worth living.

>>134227512
lol we are the greatest war machine in human history. You think American exceptionalism is a fucking meme?

>>134229335
>EU Court
I thought you guys left? Perhaps Brexit is fake after all? Fuck off, tyrant.

Okay Americans you take all our brain damaged vegetables and pay for them like the good cucks you are

>>134229482
Money is worth more than human life.

Have you never heard the phrase "all humans are not created equal".

This is regardless of race by the way, be it nigger/white/asian/kike/turkroach/spic etc.

>>134229801

This child has committed no crime. Don't try to make false equivalencies to try and strawman your way to victory. You know that's a shitty argument.

>>134226142
Nice flag faggot

>>134229833
We've been taking your so called brain dead and huddled masses for centuries and we managed to built the most powerful nation, might as well call it a global empire since the dawn of man. We'll take little Charlie too, bet 5$ he lives to grow up and run for office voting yes on invasion of cuckistan island.

>>134228461
How is keeping a baby alive for a little bit longer going to help our demographic predicament? I know you lot like them young but I didn't know you'd started breeding with babies.

>>134229277
>So if he is probably brain dead what would be wrong with doing the medical procedure? It would help people in the future with similar cases.

Because of increased suffering and pain, the child has rights and that is what is being upheld here by non emotionally invested people that consider what the treatment might do to the child. It won't cure him, it won't even do anything to reverse what has happened. Is it fair to use this child as a guinea pig minding that there's no chance of survival even if given said "treatment".

The government isn't deciding the boys fate, Theresa May and the government haven't said a word.. The EU court, the high court and various other courts have looked at this objectively, the doctors have looked at it objectively, their loyalty is to their patient and not the parents. And it's not a 1 in 100000 chance, there is no chance of survival. None, zero. Get it yet?

>>134229552
Yes they took it to the EU court...

>>134229625
Right...

>>134229656
So a booming economy, less migration and a happy populace? That's good! Can't wait.

>>134229736
Ok my friend, everyone else isn't looking at the case objectively. Look at this thread for example, you're as hysterical as Charlie's parents and the UK posters are acting objective and see this for exactly what it is. Sad. Really sad that most of you rally against SJW and muh feels yet you've based your entire arguments around those things ITT.

Funny shit I'll remember this.

>>134229833

exactly.

Let's export all of our brain dead people to the US, they are more than willing to cover the costs for us? oh..... only one child? what about the rest? the just have to suffer? you can't only take one, you have to take them all.

#vegetablelivesmatter

>>134229829
Retard alert.

>>134226317
56%

>>134229276
>you are happy to pay your taxes to cover the medical expenses of an immigrant from another nation?

yes if it's for the advancement of medicine and it helps his family. Why the fuck not? He's not some 3rd world immigrant coming to stay for good and mooch. It's a dying child with a rare disease that scientists don't get many chances to study and work on, you're damn right I'd be fine with tax payers here footing the bill.

The government has no right to deny this child life if it costs them nothing. We don't kill off babies just because they are sick here in the United States. We are a first world country who actually tried to develop medicine.

>>134224246
>he thinks we are arguing about the cure
It's more about government overreach

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>>134220956
Anon.

>>134223932
>And you're 54% white so take your own advice you nigger.
Pretty bad when our minorities are more based than all the whites in UK.

>>134227158
Other day it's Jew media, next day it's American media.

>>134230063
1) Take Jeremy Kyle tier subhuman
2) Smack him with a hammer until he's brain-dead
3) Send him to US
4) ...
5) Profit

>>134225070
my thought exactly after hearing that Russian Orthodox Church supports sending him to american (((doctors)))

>>134230054
The child is English blood, doesn't matter if he's on the veggietales he's worth more than any of your shitskins

>>134230143
What if there was no advancement in medicine made and this child dies a pointless, painful death?

Would you still feel good? Because that is what is going to happen.

>>134230239
same shit different day

it's just a shitpost

why don't they just make a new baby?

9 months of food and wages
vs
millions of medical bills and publicity stunts

>>134230143

ok if that is the case you must help all children from all nations, why can you just single out one case? don't they all deserve equal attention? are you going to bring in kids with similar condition from all over the globe and pay for their healthcare too? no? why not? why is one child special over the rest? perhaps it's the media hype surrounding it that's cause you to take on this moral crusade

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>>134229242
Congress is the most powerful arm of the government, due to the complexity of passing legislation through both the massive House of Representatives and the Senate.

They are within their right to direct a department on how to operate.

With exception: The President may order existing departments to operate differently where permitted by law through Executive Orders, and the Supreme Court may hold an Executive Order or Law to be in violation of the Constitution.


The Executive branch is the weakest by design. The President may only utilize powers reserved for them by the Constitution.

The Judiciary Branch may only enforce existing laws put in place by Congress, with exception of being able to hold any legislation to the US Constitution. The Constitution must be upheld before any law.

The Congress (which is made up of both the House of Representatives, delegation allotted to states based on population and changes based on total population, and the Senate, which is specifically 2 per state, 100 total at 50 current states) passes laws which, among other things, establish departments, grant powers to departments, establish criminality, and direct courts on how justice is to be carried out.


The three sort of lock horns with each other all the time. This is by design.

>>134229766
Its not like that child deserves to be a part of your sick little Brit society you Orwellian.

You have no right nor merit like God does to say who will live and who will die, humans always wanted to play God and to be godlike and this is the end result.

Enjoy your society with a twisted mentality that dictates who deserves to live and who doesn't but keep in mind that while you are calling that baby a potatoe and completely worthless some day your own people might do the same to you!

>>134221434
And add "moribund baby" as possibly first on the list of most ridiculous things wars have been fought over? Don't joke about those things, man.

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>>134229766
What the fuck is wrong with the British? No honor for the sanctity of human life. No sense of national pride or integrity. Just like the insectoid Chinese. You didn't deserve Brexit. Do us all a favor and sink back into the ocean.

>>134229002
>They're paying for it
So? I bet you're fine letting people pay to have their dicks inverted too.

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>>134230095
Fuck off, commie. The state doesn't have any right to tell parents what to do with the child's life regarding the medical situation. I agree that the baby should be let go. The government wants to make a decision about people's lives? Fuck off.

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>>134228145
The treatment is not going to save the kids life. It is meant to stop the advancement of the disorder, but it can't undo the damage already done. The catastrophic brain damage, that is.

Just let him fucking die. He's a potato and will never be anything more than a potato.

>>134224652
>Crazy bitch gets a slap on the wrist
>Bong: BUT IT WAS A HARD SLAP

>>134220720

reminder we went through this in 2014

>little boy has brain tumor in inoperable location
>NHS says it's terminal, nothing we can do, just make him comfortable
>doctors in Spain says they can save him with an experimental treatment where they basically fire a particle accelerator at the tumor to destroy it rather than have to cut him open to get at it
>NHS says well that kind of procedure is not available on the NHS so it must be impossible fake pseudo-science
>in fact if the parents try to take him to Spain it would be futile and be child abuse
>the state now has guardianship rights over the boy and it's illegal for the parents to take him anywhere
>they do it anyway
>manhunt catches them in Spain and arrests parents
>high court rules to let him have the procedure in Prague
>the procedure works and the boys life is saved
>state realizes no one would support them being prosecuted so leave it
>boy now cancer-free and is going to school
>NHS still so booty blasted they wont let the kid get speech therapy he needs from them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashya_King_case

so the moral of the story is to ignore the NHS and break the law if you have to to try and save your kid

>>134230285
>>134230285
ot of what ifs there bucko. A conclusion is obvious. Which conclusion is yet to be seen, and you and your shitty Orwellian/Huxleyesque government are trying to solidify the actual shittier conclusion because, well you suck.

>>134230416
No retard we just don't see the point in keeping brain-dead vegetables alive

>>134230402

>brings God into an argument and expects not to be laughed out of the room

take your fucking failed country and fuck off, you're fired son.

>>134223932
Either way you people over there really need personal gun ownership to put a check on government, and rapeugee abuses. It is a fully armed citizenry that scares the hell out of the totalitarian types that you have running your countries.

>>134230285
>What if there was no advancement in medicine made and this child dies a pointless, painful death?

Life is unfair, at least we tried. Better than sentencing him to death because he's an undesirable that we've decided is undeserving of life. At the end of the day you are killing a baby and demanding that he receive no aid or help from another countries doctors despite the wishes of his parents. It's disgusting and it won't be the last time it happens, let's just hope they stick to rare diseases right bro?

>>134230319
Muh chilluns

They act like whiny niggers, but are unfortunately white.

I know if it was me I wouldn't want to live as a drooling retard draining millions from my family and eventually the taxpayers.

>>134225699
me on the left

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Goddamn the rest the world outside of america is just absolutely fuckin retarded and worthless.

>>134229766
>implying your society has any value for this little Brit to contribute to

>>134229085
This is exactly why we need to let him die. Do you want more of this anon?

>>134229736
>Precisely why Britain needed to LEAVE the EU.
But leaving the EU will still keep them under the jurisdiction of EU court
>didn't think this through

>>134230402
God decided to curse this child with an incurable genetic disorder not the government and not the doctors.

Cuck.

>>134230457
>THE STATE GETS NO SAY IN MY CHILD
>except when they pay for my childs care then that's good and juicy!
>GOMMUNISM!!
Keep digging your hole retard.

>>134230567
>>134230513
So you're happy for a child to suffer further? And yet you accuse us of having no morality?

Amazing.

>>134230540
I have a failed country, but i still have my dignity Brit, you are not God to decide if this baby should live or die.

>>134229091
>muh freedom
There you go again. Disappointed I you Canuck, I was just praising your lot for not being quite as infantile as the fat cunts to your south.

>>134230698
You don't get it at all and you are acting as if you are smart. I hope you have a happy life.

>>134230617

>100 million Americans have diabetes.

>world outside of America is retarded

>>134230501
So the UK has a history of taking away parental rights if the parents want to seek treatment outside the UK all because they must protect the image of the NHS at any cost. Sickening. How the fuck do you Britbongs live with yourselves knowing you're just property of the state?

>>134230368
>ok if that is the case you must help all children from all nations

We already do, we bring children from all over the world to our charity hospitals and perform life saving surgeries to ensure they live a good life. Shit, sometimes Americans go out and intentionally adopt disabled foreign kids just to help them and give back to the world.

Britts murder babies while their parents are forced to watch. Forgive me if I don't see you as a great example of morality anon.

>>134230727
>but i still have my dignity Brit,
You gave away your dignity a long long time ago.

>you are not God to decide if this baby should live or die.
You're right, God has already made that decision by cursing the child with an incurable genetic disorder.

Are you trolling or are you genuinely this stupid?

>>134230501
Wew fucking lad, that is some sick shit. Gov't bureaucrats should be offed before kids

>>134229244
You can't even understand a simple word it seems.

>>134229829
are you really this dumb?

>>134230501
This is incredible information. Thank you Anon

>>134230631
Seeing as how I grew up to be a tall, good looking anon with a Masters degree who pays back into the system with a shit ton of taxes, yeah, I do want more of Charlie.

Because I am Charlie.

>>134230867
What part of your goverment is going full 1984 don't you understand you daft bean?

God I wish a doctor would strangle that Charlie fucker and end this whole charade

>>134230958
>Because I am Charlie.

cry me a river. you sound like some liberal cuck transexual trigender faggot

>>134229482
>You are putting monetary value on a human life
Unless you're spending every last available Euro on healthcare so are you.

>>134229012
>This is nowhere near the level of Chron's disease and comparing it or even using an analogy like that is idiotic.
They are both genetically linked diseases that lead to morbidity/mortality you faggot .
Another example is Phenylketonuria. It wasn't until the early 1930s that we understood the basics of this disorder but now all we have to do to save babies from severe PKU-related mental retardation is curtail their diet and give them supplements, fuck off.

>>134230698
>So you're happy for a child to suffer further? And yet you accuse us of having no morality?

Twist it however you want it. You are happy with the state sentencing a child to death despite the wishes of his parents. You support the states right to kill this child despite the fact they will no longer be paying for the child and really have no obligation to the child.

All you have is emotional arguments about some made up level of suffering you have projected onto this child to justify your barbaric view of the government dictating who lives and dies.

>>134230397
>The three sort of lock horns with each other all the time. This is by design.
Thanks for detailed explanation. So basically Congress passed it as an order to the executive branch because neither Trump nor his State Dept. didn't wanted to be involved or had other things to do?

>>134230698

You and your government have absolutely no right to dictate who gets to try and save their own child's or their own life through private enterprise because "Muh Socialism! Muh suffering!"

You seriously don't fucking get it. Or you do and you are being a stubborn twat like you shitty faggot government that has given up your capital to Islamist's.