At the current rate he loses 2020, right?

>>134149370
He won't make 2020

>>134149370
Yep. He'll lose just like he lost 2016. Remember, its the POPULAR vote that matters most.

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No one seems to want to dig up dirt on Kamal Harris or take her seriously so as of now she is a lock for 2020.

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>>134149370
Seems likely.

>>134149451
Stupid is as stupid does.

At current rate constitution is amended and he never stops being president. Are you tired of winning yet?

Not against the Democrats.

They have no policy positions and they're still doing damage control for "crime with her." They keep pretending that Trump is a Russian puppet and they are getting nowhere with their shrinking and betrayed base.

Trump can win again in 2020 because that is how bad the democrats are.

>>134149426
muh Russia?

>>134149560
Nice I have a pilonidal cyst.
I want to die when it gets infected.

>>134149370
>thinks there will still be an election

he won't run again but will help get another republican elected

>>134149601
They were saying the Republicans were in a terrible state after Romney lost, I expect the Dems to back in action by 2020

>>134149793

Well right now they are a minority party that has been wiped out of the White house, Congress and state houses don't have a base and they don't have a message and their donors are fleeing in droves after the losses. There's turning the ship around and then there's a sinking ship, which one is this?

>>134149627
More likely he'll perjure himself testifying about Russia. That seems like the end goal. Find enough evidence to get him to testify to congress where he will inevitably lie about something because he's him and they'll start the impeachment process. Or the obstruction of justice might pick up something damning. Seems like the intelligence community is waiting to release their findings on everything together.

>>134150065
Political Pendulum. People will swing back to blue after this for a short time simply because this is objectively a disaster a so far even if you take away all of the narratives trying to be spun. It doesn't matter how a president does people usually get sick of them unless its wartime. And the presidents popularity heavily influences all other voting.

>>134149370

tbqh its not looking good

Here's hoping there's not a revolt at the midterms in 2018 causing the Republicans to loose the house

>>134149627
More like Madonna blows up the White House

>>134150065
Republicans have the house and senate and still cant pass a healthcare bill, that looks terrible in the eyes of independent voters, who voted heavily for Trump.

>>134150327

I think you're right that the pendulum will swing back, but I don't know if the democrats will be the party that the people choose at that time. It surely won't be this incarnation of the party. The dems do not have any resonance with the voting base right now and they just lost the rust belt. They have no message. The Bernie wing of the party wants to take over and the Green party is meekly knocking at the door but with greater energy every year.

The Democratic party is in the woods and they're putting on their Sunday clothes like nothing's changed. Things are very different now. They need to put on their hiking boots if they want to get out alive.

>>134149370

Yes. He needs to get his act together.

>>134150124
this seems like the ultimate endgame of Dems

>>134149370
If he doesn't fix things fast then this country is going to start feeling some serious fatigue.

>>134150501

if Dems win the House, people have said they'll immediately impeach Trump

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>>134149370
not only is he going to win, but without illegals voting and the voting fraud getting shut down across the country, he is going to win in a fucking landslide.
and none of your fake polls will change it.

>>134149370
They'll be sure to rig it correctly this time. He probably won't win so they can claim a victory. Then you'll see non-stop gloating from the left, even though it was fixed. The only cure is war, and I hope Trump starts a serious one.

>>134150615

Absolutely but ask those same independents who they support in the Democratic party. Bernie? Elizabeth Warren? Tulsi Gabbard? There are not a lot of ideologically committed non-neoliberal left leaning politicians in the Party to garner support. There's just Clintoncrats who want the same things the republicans want: lobbyist money.

So I agree that the pendulum will swing back to the left but the democrats haven't been committed to a progressive left-leaning agenda. So the Party has to shed the old skin if it wants the votes of independents.

>>134150875
I don't think Pelosi will move on that. She'll have her eye on the 2020 races when she can get a Democrat in the White House. Her focus will be much bigger than that. She'll likely try to nibble around the edges of the tax code, infrastructure, and a couple of other projects that Trump may be game for. Of course they'd still have to get it by the GOP Senate and it's hard to see how that works out. It's possible that Trump goes into 2020 with no significant accomplishments.

>>134149370
There is literally no one to beat him right now

Until the Dems actually have a candidate with any sort of popularity, he will win by default

>>134149601
This.

Doesn't even matter what Trump does at this point, because the Dems are running around like chickens with their heads cut off. There is no competition.

>>134151362
>There is literally no one to beat him right now

Well no one they want to run.

The Democrats proved they will do anything to stop Bernie Sanders from running and you can bet your ass they'll stop Elizabeth Warren if she tries.

>>134150124
Yes surely the intelligence communities are just collecting data and waiting for the perfect time to strike down evil drumpf.

God you people are so delusional.

>>134150327
>thinking that the pendulum theory has any credence when there are actual political choices available

>>134151489
Warren is even worse than Hillary, a completely unlikable shrew.

The Democrats seem to think they can win elections just with money and power alone, they put up the worst unlikable candidates it's insane.

>>134151690
Warren's Likability has at least always been higher than Hillary Clinton though, right?

>>134151930
Not from what I've seen. Saw her on a few talk shows, she's god awful.

The Dems are so corrupt it's all just a big money circle jerk for them, they prop each other up, but in elections it takes the nation to vote for you, not your butt buddies that you've been trading favors with

When did it become fashionable for the media to start linking Bernie and Warren into the same camp? Warren is a liberal but she's not a socialist. Her talking points are pure Clinton-ite in their "focus on the middle class." There's nothing her statements that makes me think she's trying to start a movement.

>>134149538
>openly wants to ban guns
quit this meme. Heartland America would never vote for someone so blatently anti-funs.

>>134152178

Yeah, but what about not you? How about the polls?

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/elizabeth-warren-favorable-rating

This polsster shows her at 38% Not great. bit more than her 32% unfavorable but WAY better than Hillary Clinton's 55% unfavorable rating. Just a reminder that she was above 50% unfavorable at the time she won the popular vote and lost the election 'cause she unlikable and obtuse.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating

>>134149370
It's not looking like it. He proved he is what he said he is, so he should get even more support next time.

>>134150124
There is nothing there, especially about Trump himself.

>>134150327
The pendulum thing is nonsense. This country has been getting more and more Conservative every election.

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>>134152766
>How about the polls?

Polls? Please.

Just watch Warren when she's doing talk shows, she's awful.

Bernie had "it", he could have won, but of course the Dems took him out because he wasn't a corporate shill like the rest of them.

Tulsi Gabbard has potential but I haven't seen enough of her to say.

Nobody else I have seen has literally any chance.

The Dems are just obsessed with money, the party itself is corrupt, they cannot win elections by paying for them.

>>134150501
They will probably won the house and will lose more senate seats actually.

>>134149370
he wins it even bigger and more easily like reagan did.

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>>134152766
>Yeah, but what about not you? How about the polls?
how bout dem polls amirite?

>>134153229

Please don't conflate a public opinion poll with an election projection poll. Everyone at Huffington post who had anything to do with that election prediction poll should have been fired, By the way.

>>134149793
Reps WERE in a terrible state when Romney lost. If Trump didn't win the nom, who would they have had? At BEST Ted Cruz, who would have lost probably. At worst, Jeb! who also would have lost. If Dems put up a Pocahontas or some shill like that, they will definitely lose.

He'll be lucky to make 2 years tops. He will be impeached, his Russian collusion is being exposed.

>>134151489
Those leftist wild lose hard m nobody wants either of them.

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>>134153443

>>134150327
Not by 2020

>>134153443
You do know how probability works right?

If trump has a 10% chance to win. But wins anyway. Does that make the prediction bad or the just bad luck?

Even the trump campaign didnt think they were going to win.

>>134150065
Nothing you said is remotely accurate

>>134153458
>Please don't conflate a public opinion poll with an election projection poll.

It's literally the same thing, done by the same companies.

If you still believe in polls after this election, you don't understand how the system works.

>>134153598
>If trump has a 10% chance to win. But wins anyway. Does that make the prediction bad or the just bad luck?
except this happened about 10 times in every solid blue state.

libshits BTFO

>>134153698
It was one event. Trump had 40/60 odds in those states. Which added together gave him the 10% chance.

He won all the lopsided coinflips and achieved the 10%. That doesn't invalidate all polls forever.

>>134151690
You got that right. Elizabeth Warren acts like a fucking school principal, always finger-waving and I feel like I'm in detention and she's chastising me every time she talks. Hillary it felt like she just HATED me because I was beneath her, which I would take any day of the week over Warren.

>>134153469
Republicans have been making significant gains in house, Senate, and state offices since 2010. The only significant loss they've had since then has been the 2012 presidential election.

Until the DNC gets their head out of their ass I expect them to continue to flounder. The aging baby boomers that run the party will not let go of power until the day they die.

>>134153855
>It was one event.
multiple events, each state is an event seen here >>134153443

libshits confirmed for brain dead retards LMAO

>>134149538
She looks like she digs enough dirt of her own, nasty woman.

>>134153479

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/bernie-sanders-favorable-rating

>>134153545
>>134153443
>>134153229

I get your point, but this is all conflation. The poll predicting the outcome of the election and the poll depicting a politicians favorability rating are not the same kind of poll and they are making different points. The point I'm making is that a favorably rated politician has a better chance of beating Trump in 2020 than an unfavorably rated politician. At the time of her loss more than half the country had an unfavorable opinion of Hillary Clinton. For Elizabeth Warren it looks like roughly thirds, favor, unfavor, don't care. Bernie is at 60% favorable. These are positive signs for their electabilty but not the botched election predictions of CNN and HuffPo.

>>134153969
Do you not understand that all the small chances are combined for the big event? Do I need to make a probability tree?

>>134153900

> The aging baby boomers that run the party will not let go of power until the day they die.

Not that I disagree with you, but what did the GOP do differently with respect to this issue? I mean babyboomers still run that one (absent Trump,he's a babyboomer but you know what I mean)

>>134154094
>The point I'm making is that a favorably rated politician has a better chance of beating Trump in 2020 than an unfavorably rated politician.
a favorably rated democrat doesnt exist and your (((polls))) are useless.

>>134154203
Do you not understand that they were all WRONG?

I guess this is why libtards keep losing elections, they believe their own bullshit.

>>134149370
Unlikely unless the dems get their shit together. At this rate though idk.

>>134149370
I will only vote for him if he's up against a woman again.
Knowing how retarded the left is, he will probably win.

I still want Pence to be president. But I just don't see it happening.

>>134153627

So the democrats Have the white house and the congress and state houses? Tell me how are all those democratic state houses doing? What's the word from Senate Majority leader Chuck Schumer or House Majority leader Dianne Feinstein and how are Vice president Tim Kaine and President Hillary Clinton doing?

Tell me again how much in that post I got wrong. Tell me.

>>134154234
They've injected much more young blood. Paul Ryan, Marco, Cruz are all much younger than the top Democrats. Trump is old but he manages to put a lot of energy interested everything he does which helps defy his age.

>>134153354
this guy gets it. the dnc elite will run warren and trump will win on the same margins that nixon won against mcgovern

>>134154234
They did literally nothing. Trump ran his campaign sans republicans powerbrokers up til the last couple months. They lucked into the presidency. But that cannot govern for the same reasons the democrats cant win.

They lack a singular ideological connection. They are fighting against each other more than the dems.

>>134154094
Favorable ratings don't mean shit. At the end if the day Hillary still beat Bernie.

>>134149370
Nope, he'll get another 4 with ease. If he's running against the Rock and Zuckerberg, he'll mop the floor with them in the debates and turn the entire thing into a spectacle. Showmanship is his game.

>>134154668
To be fair the primary was completely rigged in her favor.

>>134154396
Wants President (((Pence)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkWNGGbtDDg

>>134154668
>Hillary still cheated Bernie.

FTFY.

>>134149370
>At the current rate he loses 2020, right?
Unlikely.

>>134154773
and its going to be again.

I knew the democrats would run a puppet bernie to steal his base and now that the zuckcuck is running I'm proven right.

>>134151458
>cant even repeal and replace despite 8 years of crying about it
You're a fool to think the republicans have their shit together in the slightest. If they did, an outsider like trump never would have won the primaries, much less the presidency.

>>134149370
I don't see any competent challengers desu

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>>134149538
She doesn't stand a chance

>>134152699
Trump will deserve the blame for sucking Jew cock and giving them the most power they've had in decades.

The biggest thing they had against Trump was how inexperienced he was as a politician and how a businessman doesn't mean he'll be a good president.

Now, he's literally the most qualified person to run with the most experience to be President again. What will they do now?

>>134149370
>Dems double down and run another minority, on the platform of "vote blue or you're a racist sexist Nazi"
>polls put them at 350% chance of winning
Surely it'll work this time

>>134149426
>He won't make 2020

Impeachment is a political process. Articles of Impeachment will probably happen if dems take the house in the midterms, but they have a very unfavorable Senate map in 2018. Even if by some miracle Dems took the senate it requires 67 senators to convict the president. Unless something serious comes up or Trump otherwise starts costing GOP senators votes he's serving all four years.

>>134149370
I'd say it's 50/50. Republicans are getting purged from the legislature after fucking up the obongocare repeal, though.

>>134155343
>Now, he's literally the most qualified person to run with the most experience to be President again. What will they do now?
Except he's been a disaster and week after week there's a new example of incompetence or corruption.

But yeah, I'm sure that wall will be built any day now.

>>134154094
>a favorably rated politician has a better chance of beating Trump in 2020 than an unfavorably rated politician

It would be nice if that were true, but it just isn't. The polls don't show shit, they're just propaganda pieces. Look at their methodologies to see how they work, they are literally manipulated to show whatever result they want.

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>>134149370
>leans into mic
Wrong.

>>134153855
It does if had different polling models been used it wasn't actually a 10% chance at all and they're just lying fucks though.

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>>134153458

These polls you can trust, goy.

>>134154352
>I guess this is why libtards keep losing elections, they believe their own bullshit.

Yes pretty much. I mean they know they are wrong, but they want it to be true so bad that they do everything in their power to force reality to conform to their ideals. But of course reality has a different say in that matter.

If the Dems ever want to win again, they need leadership that is down to earth, not snake oil salesmen.

>>134155343
I think you got it backwards. Trumps biggest asset was that he wasnt tested in politics. We couldnt look at trump and say remember how he fucked up X Y and Z major policy?

Hillary had the crime bill, her 9/11 votes, her trade votes, her failure on healthcare, not to mention bengazi/emails. And we all rightfully asked why should we make you in charge of anything ever again?

Now trump has a record. And its worse than anyones.

As long as democrats and shitskins keep attacking white people, they're not going to be voting for Democrats. They're getting louder, more racist and more violent. Even the most naive white lefty is going to have to face facts.

>>134149370
test

>>134151217
>Of course they'd still have to get it by the GOP Senate and it's hard to see how that works out.

They might not want to. They'll be going into 2020 with a better senate map than they had in 2018. Passing a bunch of relatively popular stuff out of the house with no intention of it actually becoming law is a potentially winning strategy. Though if they take the house and that's the direction they want to go, they'd be wise temper themselves at least a little bit or they might end up in a situation similar to the current Republican health care bill where actually passing any of the stuff they're promising becomes a lot harder once the votes matter.

>>134149370
He's already won 2020. The Democratic Party has completely embarrassed themselves. The lefty media has become a joke and are losing money fast. You would have to be retarded to think the Dems will win.
The only way Trump could lose is if people vote third party, which will never happen.

>>134149370
He would win 2020 bigly. Not sure if he will run though. Being a president will take more than 4 years out of his lifespan.

>>134149370
he has already lost it

he was elected because people thought he was competent and trustworthy (compared to hillary). now people are watching him fail and listening to him lie. repeatedly, and on important matters that have direct impacts on their lives.

trump failed as president of the united states, and voters will vote against him for it.

>>134154600
>They lucked into the presidency.

Yes it was just pure luck that people voted more for Trump than Hillary in the right states.

God you people are hilarious, I hope you still keep believing in magic.

>>134154852
>Foreigners pretending they know anything about the politics of the US

Name a better candidate that isn't a RINO.
He doesn't even have Jewish family, unlike Donaldberg Trumpstein.

I'm can't believe I'm wasting my time replying to such a retarded spaghettinigger.

>>134155984
He's already trademarked his 2020 slogan and started funding it.

>>134149793
Republicans of the bush years are dying
Tea party republicans are a mixed bag
If Trump is NOT impeached, and the current economy doesn't crash, the new Republican Party forming from the loam of the ousting of Obama democrats and RINOs will be completely different than the neocons from the 90-00's

Everyone keeps acting like the current republicans are the same team that was fielded in the Clinton:Bush years, but a lot of their constituents hate their guts

>>134155010
I don't think the Republicans are some amazing party or anything, but compared to the Dems they are at least twice as competent.

Dems went all in on identity politics and now look at who their leadership is, let's just say they are genetically inclined to lose.

>>134155974
ratings are way up dude. Media is making bank. Except Fox. They're burning through their advertising moolah settling more sexual harassment claims.

>>134156012
Republicans. The political party. The ones whose candidates were all made to look like children by a reality tv show character in nation wide debates. You know the ones who were 6000% behind YEB!?

Yeah they were lucky that trump chose to run that year. Because otherwise they were toast.

>>134149370
unless he has an iran hostage situation like carter where he fucks it up he stands good odds of election

>>134155974
This pretty much. The Dems have no chance as it stands now, they just don't have any candidate who is even likable.

>>134149370
You misspelled 2024.

>>134156181
At this point in Obama's first term he'd already saved us from financial apocalypse plus a lot of other things, so much it all blurs together.

Trump has Gorsuch. And even doing that required cost the Republic our 240-year-old 60-vote norm for the supreme court.

Is "the administrative state" just code for "America"?

>>134156241
Yes it was all pure luck that Trump ran, definitely not planned at all.

You people truly do live with your heads in the clouds.

>>134156188
All mainstream media is dying. Nobody uses cable anymore and people get their news online. The only people that still watch cable are senile and in care homes.

>>134156470
I am confused. Are you just a memer who doesnt actually follow politics? Because are you trying to claim that anyone in the republican parties leadership knew trump was going to happen?

Can you link anything that proves it?

>>134156435
Doesn't matter what Trump has done or not done if the Dems don't have anyone to compete with him.

You can't run your platform on "well drumpf is bad, so vote for us"

lol no

>>134156724
>"well drumpf is bad, so vote for us"

meanwhile "well Obama is bad, so vote for us" cost dems 1200 seats and the Presidency.

Are you fucking retarded? Or were you in a coma for the last 8 years.

>>134150124
Lol literally no way Trump testifies.

>>134149370
>it's still 2017
I WONDER HOW LONG HIS ENEMY LIST IS BY THE END OF THE YEAR

>>134149370
Do the democrats have a new strategy? Russia didn't work last year.

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>>134156656
Dems have this ridiculous idea in their head that the Republican party is all divided, when the opposite is true.

Here are the exit polls from the election, notice something?

More Dems voted for Trump than Reps voted for Hillary.

Also Independents went for Trump over Hillary.

The Democratic party is the divided party, you guys screwed yourself by shilling for corporate interests over the American people.

>>134153229
I'm curious to see what Joe Kennedy III will do

>>134156724
Are you legit 16? Did you not pay attention to anything that happened in that last 2 cycles?

Anti-obama was the entire party platform.

REPEAL REPEAL REPEAL

ring any bells?

UNDO HIS LEGACY

Hear that recently?

I wonder who could have said that.

>>134156806
>>134157044

If you think Trump won because the Republicans said Obama was bad, you are really out of touch.

>>134157036
You really are stupid.

Trump is doing nothing to expand his base

He's losing everyone you're talking about. He's losing the blue districts that voted for him. He's lost 10% on independents already

Everything he's letting the Republicans do in Congress is severely costing him those blue votes, because the Republicans don't care about the Middle / working class.

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what trumpshills don't get is that trump's policies (and his perceived ability to implement them) were the only reason non-retards liked him. now that people know he is too fucking stupid and incompetent to actually deliver on all the things he promised, no one will support him.

no one actually likes trump. people don't like that he tweets like whiny teenager, or that he makes fun of people's looks and disabilities, or that he is a 71 year old with the english skills of a third grader. people only liked him because he promised to do things that they wanted. and now that he has proven he can't do anything, let alone fulfill his promises, he is fucking done. trump is the first president to be a lame duck 6 months into their presidency.

>>134149538
She's a bubble baby. All she's known is California politics, where being multiracial and female is an advantage. That shit won't fly in Iowa. She's the wrong flavors of multiracial for that to be an advantage in places like Texas. She doesn't have a patriotism hook like Tulsi Gabbard. Harris is too insipid and venal, too uninspiring to be a serious contender. She's a 1 term weak spot for the Dems.

Tulsi Gabbard could mount a serious challenge to take the WH in 20.

>>134157036
Is that even tangentally related to the post you are quoting? Do I just have to play wack-a-mole?

Republicans Have Cruz(tea party), Rand(libertarians), Mcain/ryan(neocons) and now TRUMP(TRUMP).

They dont agree on a single thing except that america is the best and hillary was the worst.

>>134157142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc

You are a giant retard. You know nothing about politics whatsoever.

>>134150327
Almost every president wins two terms. As far as Trump's chances are right now it's probably better that they didn't repeal Obamacare and replace it with a similarly shitty bill. Health care is a political death sentence. Let him do taxes, build the wall and continue deregulating the economy and he'll be fine.

>>134155551

Cost needed to cover national free college at state universities: 62 billion

Cost of the Afghan and Iraq war in 2015:
73 Billion.

>>134157233
>He's losing everyone you're talking about. He's losing the blue districts that voted for him. He's lost 10% on independents already

Really? Everyone I know who supported Trump now supports him even more, the media attacks on him have created a fanatic base that will do anything for him.

But let's just put all this mental masturbation aside, let's say everyone hates Trump.

Who are the Dems going to run against him? I don't care at all what Trump does, if the Dems have no competition it doesn't matter, he will win by default.

>>134157426
Dems will never back Tulsi, she's too sane for that party.

>>134157312
God you are so out of touch

His fanbase just keeps getting larger and his tweets are a big part of that

People do not care about policy, get real, the average American doesn't understand that shit, they want a leader who is charismatic and that is exactly why Trump keeps winning

>>134157434
Yes just keep ignoring facts like a good Dem, I honestly wish you guys would put up some competition for the next election, but you seem to be allergic to learning.

>>134157590
Taxes are a no go just like Healthcare

The reason why they had to start with political suicidal legislation was that they had to save money for the tax cuts to appease the cuckbertarians.

The special interests invested into taxation are much more powerful than healthcare.

He won't be able to get any major legislation passed because he's proven himself to be utterly incompetent at negotiating with congressmen. The Republicans even requested for him to hang back on Healthcare because at the start he already did damage to it.

>>134157461
>You are a giant retard. You know nothing about politics whatsoever.

Amazing argument my friend.

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>>134157803
wrong. people don't give a shit about trump sitting in a fucking firetruck, and people HATE trump's tweets.

people care about healthcare and jobs, and trump is failing on both. he is losing everyone who supported him. people like who only support him out of spite, not because you actually want america to be a better country. but the majority of voters want their lives and their families' lives to be better, and trump has failed to do that.

>>134157426
Harris is a joke as an actual candidate for the time being. She will make a good cheerleader for a while, but she has to actually make a name for herself on the national stage first.

Tulsi is not ready for the big show imo. She would make a 10/10 vice president on a bernie or biden ticket. Really balance out the old man vibes + give them some diversity flavor. She could easily score a cabinet position otherwise and transition from there to the big race.

But I dont think she has the clout to beat one of the bigger names in the primaries. Even warren who i think is a terrible candidate for the general would beat her out among dems.

Definatly heading in the right diretion by associating herself with the hawaiian travel ban judges.

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Well unless the democrats get serious about getting a platform, getting a figure head that isn't just some neolib, and start coming up with talking points with what needs to be done in the world; i just don't see them retaking the presidency you'd have to have a massive fuck more so than what we've been seeing. The only hope might be the dems get some darkhorse candidate like obama in 2008, or even worse they get forced into the progressive socialist platform of people like jill stien or bernie sanders. So i just do not see good times for the dems if anything i see a rocky road ahead that's here to test their party.

One other thing i will say and this is for all the people like me who are centrist right or still republican ron pauls or ranpauls; we need to start getting rid of these neocon rhino's in our states im from Pa so looking foward to when my time comes but you gotta get out their know our candidates and vote vote vote.

>>134158015
Oh god, we have another retard who actually believes in polls.

I hope you keep that attitude as we go into 2020.

I'm sure your candidate that is completely unlikable, who posts nice tame tweets, but all the polls say will win, will win just like Hillary did.

>>134156181
>I don't think the Republicans are some amazing party or anything, but compared to the Dems they are at least twice as competent.
2x0=0

>>134158170
Bernie probably would have beat Trump. His message would have been more friendly to the blue firewall states Trump won.

The only reason Dems lost was because they chose Hillary, nothing else.

If they run another Black person, like Cory Booker, they will probably win no problem.

>>134158092
Yeah Goys I mean Gu...ys even though Tulsi is non white she will fight for your nationalist values.Start donating shekels so we can fight the Dru...Trump

>>134158391
Protip: Obama didn't win because he was black.

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>>134158391
>Bernie would've beat trump

It's too late for bait. Nice try though

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>>134158015
>(((opinion polls)))

>>134149370
at the current rate he'll weigh 500 pounds in 2020

>>134158499
He was more favored than Hillary vs Trump and considering how badly Trump lost on the popular vote, and those blue firewall states coming down to tens of thousands of votes, yes he could have beat Trump.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

>>134149370

> At the current rate
> (((polls))) measured that
> must be true

>>134149370
i'm going to fund his re-election for 2020

>>134157858
Pretty accurate. I would add that trump might have gotten away with a hail marry. He could have repealed obama care and rammed through tax cuts right after. He would have had 3 years to fix that mess. It would have been brutal, but it would have been something.

I cant possibly imagine the healthcare bill he signs in the next 3 years being any better than that outcome either. Without any political capital to burn he is going to have to let every single chef throw their own shit seasoning into it.

>>134158611
ABC's polls have been consistently accurate this election cycle. They were only off about 2% from the general election. They have him at 36%

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>>134158273
i believe in success, and donald trump is not a successful president. he is a failure. no one who wants america to be successful supports donald trump. not after watching trump lie and fail repeatedly.

>>134158717
No, he should have done Infrastructure first

How can dems fight him if he basically forces them to vote for infrastructure

he would have to lean left on it and make a deal with the cuckservatives in congress and then give them what they want on taxes and healthcare because the bite from the dems would be much more tolerable after they voted for his infrastructure.

Dems won the messaging war with Healthcare.

>>134158805
You live in an alternate reality.

It's funny how out of touch Dems are, if you never get out of your bubble you will just lose 2020 again, I hope you try to start learning.

since most people in this thread agree trump is a retarded, incompetent failure, who should replace him in 2020?

>>134158941
That's why the Republicans are fucked, they are in a worse situation than the Dems are.

Only someone like Trump can win like he did.

There is absolutely no one that could replace him. Probably a moderate like Kasich but not a complete retard like he is could win. Trump got a ton of Obama voters this election so they would need to appeal to dems.

>>134158941
Yes let's just assume that everyone hates Trump and go from there, surely that is a winning strategy that will not ignore half of the American voter base.

>>134158941
i do not agree with you at fucking all, and i will fund his re-election in 2020 even though im not an american citizen, i've been watching throughout the years and the republican party is clearly the better choice

>>134158729
Rassumusen was even more accurate during the election and they've consistently had him in the mid 40s to low 50s. These polls use different sampling methods though. Maybe an aggregate of all the somewhat reliable polls would be effective.

>>134149370
The way the polls are conducted hasn't changed since the election so you can't trust them much.

But he probably will lose if the Democrats put forward a decent candidate, someone with an image like Bill Clinton (a cool and relatable professional) but unlike Bill he has to have absolutely no dirt to dig up. They need a squeky clean candidate. If they try to put forward another female candidate and turn it into another retarded gender thing they'll lose, if it's some quirky retard like Sanders they'll lose.

But what's probably going to happen is Trump will pull a Bush Jr and drag the US (and allies) into some new war, probably North Korea, and earn himself a 2020 victory that way while paving a 2024 Democrat win.

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>>134158729
Yeah, about that "poll"...
These numbers add perfectly don't they?

>>134149793
>They were saying the Republicans were in a terrible state after Romney lost

They were in a terrible state. The problem is they picked an Obama-lite who was too smiley about policy and being against "universal health care" despite Romney pushing for it and implementing it as Governor in his own state of Massachusetts. Regardless of whatever Obama was facing in 2012, economy, healthcare, or foreign affairs, it wouldn't necessarily be fixed under Romney. It'd be like replacing Barry Bonds in his prime with your dad.

>>134159116
it isn't an assumption

>>134159147
trump's 2016 campaign was funded by overseas donors so your donations shouldn't be a problem for them (it will be for the law but trump doesn't care about that)

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>>134149370
totally anon.

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>>134158941

At the current rate he will have deported enough democrats to win 2020 in a landslide.

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>>134159312
Yes clearly everyone hates Trump, in fact Dems don't even need to try, just put anyone up there and surely you will win.

>>134149370
No, this is barely the first year in, and the entire year has been nothing but extreme partisanship against anything Trump wants to do.

>>134159241
No.

They had trump at like 44-45% and hillary at 48-49%

and that's about what the popular vote turned out to be.

>>134159201

Like I said above, the popular vote is what you should be looking at, not the electoral college. The polls reflect the popular vote.

>>134159312
it is an assumption, because you seem to believe that everyone here does hate trump when i dont hate him, the other guy doesnt hate him, and 4chan is full of trump supporters, fuck the democratic party i will fund republican for life

>>134159459
>the popular vote is what you should be looking at, not the electoral college

Oh god, Dems truly never learn.

compare trump in this picture during the campaign
>>134159395

to this one now that he is president
>>134158805

that is what people will see in 2020. a retarded fraud that won a job he couldn't actually do, and failed at everything he tried.

>>134158902
Cant do infastructure without funding. It fools gold. Dems would have jumped on board. But the majority of the house arent dems.

And it would have been a bigger shit show than healthcare in the long run. Instead of the onesided vote counting scheme we have going on now it would have been a actual debate over what areas should get funding.

What is trump going to do when 5000 black activists march on the white house demanding he save the inner cities?

What about when its revealed that saving small towns in middle america is literally just throwing money into a bond fire and he abandons his base?

He could borrow to fund it avoiding rasing taxes, but then he would lose all of his high-ground on the debt.

Healthcare was the right choice, but he didnt have the skills to pull it off.

>>134159566
Stay delusional, if you never address that half of the voter base likes Trump then you will never win.

>>134159459
>cites ABC poll for evidence
>totally ignores evidence of how rigged it is

>>134159241
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

49 D 46 R

http://cookpolitical.com/story/10174

48 D 46 R

>>134149451
Kek has chosen. We must remain patient. We must remain faithful.

>>134159540
they never learn do they? democrats are dumbasses

Impeachment
October 3

>>134159619
Infrastructure would be politically correct.

Disarm Dems so that healthcare and tax cuts could be passed

This would be proper 4d chess.

Yeah it would cause debt, but what party / president has ever let that stop them?

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>>134149370
lame duck.

There's a simple pattern in US Presidential elections: campaign on some sort of platform and win or campaign against your opponent and lose. It's held true in every election of the 21st century.

Right now the Democrats are firmly anti everything Trump with nothing of their own but some vague references to the 'good old days of Obama' which middle America obviously does not see as good.

So right now, Trump will likely win again despite doing absolutely nothing of note as his executive orders are in line with his America First platform and all failures can easily be framed as congress' fault while the Democratic candidate will just be some boring Not Trump candidate again

>>134159201
>Rassmusen

even if you believe them, they show trump falling as his failures pile up

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html#polls

Rassmusen May has Trump at 48%
Rassmusen June has Trump at 45%
Rassmusen July has Trump at 43%

the last time any poll had trump at 50% was Rassmusen in February. he has been falling ever since.

>>134159635
i have been posting images, graphs, and discussing actual events and facts. you are the delusional one kid. trump is a failure, and people are sick of his incompetence and stupidity. people are sick of him whining like a fucking child on twitter. people are sick of him golfing instead of doing his fucking job (which he isn't capable of doing).

trump is a lame duck 6 months into his presidency.

>>134149370
Not only will I never entertain the thought of voting Democrat, I actively tell everyone I know about all the garbage Democrats are throwing into the world.
I honestly have no respect for the Republicans doing nothing right now in the Senate and Congress, but I absolutely despise the tranny/nigger/faggot/terrorist/woman/antifa/crybaby agenda Democrats are hanging their flag on.
It's not even close. Democrats are absolutely cancer, unless they get rid of at least 90% of their stupidity, which won't happen.
If Trump accomplishes nothing from now until 2020, I'd still vote for him over any Democrat, and it's not even close.

>>134159459
State polling is all that matters. When I say Rasmussen was accurate it's because they had Trump up/within the MOE in swing states whereas many other polls had Hillary with a significant lead in states that she lost. When you say ABC was accurate were you referring to the state figures or national?

>>134159729
Oh look, they managed to rig their polls to line up with all their voter fraud. Too bad they fucked up and didn't think they needed to worry about the midwest or the electoral college and focused their effort on pumping up the vote share in hard blue states.

>>134149370
One thing is sure by now, the media is full of shit and don't represent anyone to the right of the establishment.
They have also changed up a gear and are more blatant with their propaganda/agenda since Trump.

>>134160077
The ABC poll was accurate.

The current ABC poll having Trump at 36% is also accurate.

The only thing you have to refute that is unproven conspiracy.

Do you not realize how anti intellectual you are coming off as?

>>134159997
They had him at 50% very recently, I remember him tweeting about it.

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>>134149370
I don't think he will lose. It's all about rust belt and Florida. He already, imo, secured rust belt with his attitude towards coal and cubans in Florida love him (especially after Cuba power move he made earlier).

>>134160026
national

here's the source

>>134159729

They got her within 1% and him dead on.

>>134149426
This. GOP loses its majorities in 2018 and Trump gets removed from Office kicking and screaming

At some point he'll start spilling the beans about selling out to Putin while simultaneously asserting it's OK and he dindu etc, and his base will fracture.

GOP loses hard in 2020, scattered violence by die-hard Trump supporters, Dems re-gerrymander and finally get that big majority they've been waiting for for decades, then squander it. 2022 has shockingly low turnout with rising violence by extremists on both sides, at which point new ideologies start becoming popular and the system starts putting itself back together again.

But /pol/ and the Trumptards are considered a remnant of the bad old days, when anti-government propaganda destroyed the GOP and almost ruined America.

>>134159997
All you do is keep posting polls, the same polls that said Hillary won the election.

Like I said, stay delusional, if you don't learn you'll just keep losing.

>>134160292
I still do wonder if he's a Dem plant, just because of how utterly incompetent he's being.

The Republicans have really risked it all with him. If he fails, they are going to be set back 10+ years.

>>134160024
Well said.

I do not think the Republicans are amazing, but when you put them up against the Democrats there is no choice. The Democrats have gone completely off the deep end.

>>134159997
>the last time any poll had trump at 50% was Rassmusen in February. he has been falling ever since.

I like how you are pretending he has just had a steady decline and no increases.

>>134160396
Yeah, I've wondered the same thing. Also maybe he's intentionally fucking up GOP healthcare to force them to be bipartisan?

Then I snap back to reality and realize the only person Trump's playing 5D chess against is his own id

>>134160177
>35% Dem
>23% Rep
>Accurate
And you're calling me anti intellectual?

>>134160447
Uh, that's the truth.

Look at everything he's done and tweeted.

Every single thing has been pandering to his base, not expanding it. He has done no outreach to anyone other than his base.

He's lost massive support in such a small amount of time. Of course this is among dems and independents, he's still ~80% among republicans.

>>134160177
Uhh Rasmussen was literally the #1 most accurate poll of the general election.

But the fact that you're arguing about polls just shows how far your head is in the sand, it's hilarious.

>>134160396
Yes he's definitely a Dem plant, it was all planned for him to beat Hillary

God you people provide endless entertainment, please do go into your Russian conspiracy theories some more.

>>134158015
Oh even better, according to Nate Silver's aggregate.

The guy who never made a single correct prediction about Trump in the year leading up to the election.

>>134160517
Yeah, the only thing Trump has supported ever was Trump, nothing else.

So I guess if you look at it that way, it's not surprising, especially given his behavior. He's always had very thin skin when it came to the media / his image and brand.

This is what's gonna happen in 2020. Bunch of celebs are gonna try to copy trump. The rock, mark Cuban, Zuckerberg, etc. I'm thinking kamala will be the establishment candidate because she is black and a woman. They won't dare run a white man against trump cause they won't be able to use Trump's whiteness and being a man against him. DNC will sack the non establishment candidates ala Bernie via the superdelegates. Look like a bunch of crooks ((again)) Lose

>>134160784
Accurate

Sadly there is no stopping this from what I can see, it's like the Dems want to lose

>>134149601
This, the democrats have absolutely nobody on their bench, nobody who the people don't already hate anyways. Also their agenda is shit and the people do not support it, trump is guaranteed to win in 2020

>>134160550
He started in the single digits with Democrats, there was never support to lose. Democrats have been hyper partisan with the REEEEEE FUCK DRUMPH, even Obama had mild approval from Republicans at first.

The funny part is Trump is still way above his approval rating when he won the presidency.

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>>134160889
>trump is guaranteed to win in 2020

Trump isn't running in 2020, all the people that everyone hates that are in his party are running in 2020.

>>134160530
This

>>134160981
Has a sitting president ever been primaried?

This is an interesting scenario I have not considered

>>134160941
Democrats are almost solely responsible for electing Donald Trump.

He won the blue firewall states, states that were solid Obama states.

He got Obama voters to vote for him.

Considering how many of them hated Hillary, that played a large part in the turnout as well.

>>134160981
>trump isn't running in 2020
>I'm the retard
Bet you think the democrats are going to win the house in 2018 too? I guarantee that's never happening

>>134158940
what they hell are you talking about? you faggots are in a bubble by design

>>134156847
Of course he wont. He is as dumb as a brick, he is well aware of that. He knows that he's gonna fail.

>>134161081
How many solid +20 blue seats were lost this election or are under contention?

How many solid +20 red seats are in contention?

I imagine you know very little about politics and don't know this answer so I'll give it to you. Republican seats are in jeopardy.

>>134161111
Amazing argument you got there

People root for the underdog in movies.
Everyone ganging up on Trump has made him the underdog in politics right now.

People want the underdog to win. This is why he'll win again in 2020.

>>134161294
Keep your hopes up buddy, it's all you have

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>>134160396
10+ years is an understatement.

They will run campaign attack adds for decades.

>Commercial opens with a old grainy video of a trump speech
>trumps voice starts low
>It rises as the ominous music quickens
>at the cresendo trump says something retarded like : We should kill the familes of terrorists, mexicans are rapists. lets bring back torture!
>the shot zooms out to show the republican candidate standing behind him
>freezes on him cheering/clapping with the crowd.
>Voice over says "how can you expect (republican) to stand up for you if he coudlnt stand up to trump?"
>video then shows candidate walking up and shaking hands with trump after speech
>background audio of a young hispanic female reporter at a press conference.
>"mr (republican) did you agree with mr trumps statements about (retarded thing trump said)?
>no of course not they were bad and mean
>"then why didnt you do something"?
>"well uh you see uh"
>freeze frame of his face floundering


He will be the albatross

>>134160868
Like watching a train wreck in slow motion

>>134161315
explain the dems in a bubble meme, it literally makes no sense.

>>134161294
>Dem seats in states that voted for Trump are on lock down for Dems

Hillary had a 99%+ chance to win on election night as well.

>>134149370
I love how literally no on is taking Generation Z into consideration in this thread

>>134149793
They were. What has happened is nothing short of a miracle. The combination of Trump, the internet, and the kike media agenda becoming too obvious has awakened millions of whites to what is really going on in this country. If Trump doesn't run, the Democrats win, and those millions of whites remain asleep.

>>134161621
they are liberal in the states, the genz based theory comes from Bongland

>>134155868
>If the Dems ever want to win again, they need leadership that is down to earth, not snake oil salesmen.

But this is just your inability to understand statistics. You are objectivley wrong. If being "down to earth" means accepting being wrong about reality, then what the fuck is the point?!

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>>134161575
Here is a map of the voting in the election, notice anything?

>>134149370
Probably, unless he decides to stop being so stubborn

He needs to accept that people don't like the way he tweets, it comes across as immature and unpresidential. It doesn't seem like he will though, unless the Republicans get absolutely routed at the midterms and he gets finally gets the message. He also needs to get rid of Ivanka and Kushner.

>>134161575
The almost complete refusal to try and understand why Trump won.

>>134161427
And then they'll ask if the Republican is a Russian plant too. HA! So progressive

>>134161731
Did that post make sense in your head?

>>134161923
If people didn't like Trump's tweets he wouldn't be president.

Republicans are going to win in a landslide in 2018 and the only way Trump loses in 2020 is if Bill Krystol and his ilk stage a third party run with a (((respectable conservative))) to purposefully throw the election. That's my biggest fear and I believe it's realistic. If it happens, and whites take it lying down, then this race doesn't deserve to survive.

>>134161961
The Dem attitude is "I'm better than these lowly people, therefore I don't need to understand them, they're irrelevant."

Then they lose another election and wonder why.

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>>134159540
Never learn what? No-one is saying that the election should have been different, they are saying that popular polling will match the popular vote (which is true, and it did, matched well even).

Polling works and is accurate. What doesn't always work, and you seem to keep getting confused about, are people extrapolating raw polling into "likelihoods" of a given result.

For example, 538 had odds that were around 2/3 for Hillary: the same as rolling a dice and saying "you probably won't get a 1 or a 2". Yet getting a 1 or 2 when you roll a dice happens on occasion. The odds weren't suddenly "wrong" because it happened, it is hardly an unexpected or unbelievable outcome at all with those magnitudes.

But go ahead, act like polls aren't actually pretty damn accurate. /pol/ has never been made fools of for that before...

>>134162111
There will absolutely be a McMuffin type candidate from (((Kristol))) and his ilk. Just who it is remains to be seen.

>>134149538
she's too abrasive to play well with middle america, their best bet is with the Rock

>>134162267
The state polls were off by huge margins in swing states while the media was engaged in an all out gaslighting spergout with "Trump can't win" propaganda. Just a coincidence I'm sure.

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>>134162267
>Polling works and is accurate.

Oh god no it doesn't.

I could post examples all day, here's one that made me laugh out loud on election day.

They were off by about 15% in the vote here, a complete disaster.

>>134162047
People don't like Trump's tweets. All data suggests this.

There is also a big difference between tweeting in a campaign and tweeting as president. People understand during a campaign he wants to do everything he can to win, but they expect more from a president. There is no reason to personally insult 2 morning show hosts who nobody watches. His base may like it, everybody else hates it.

>>134149370
Trump three terms.

>>134161911
yeah, counties with 100 people like to vote R, Counties with 100s of thousands like to vote D and then there is a gradient of inbetween. They should really use purple to see it.

>>134162459
>>134162459
They hate his tweets because it allows him to bypass the media and talk directly to his people.

It's the most transparent administration yet.

>>134162256
That is what R's are doing right now, kinda what power does to people. Like I said, you are entering a new phase of a bubble.

>>134160981
>Trump isn't running in 2020
He's going to run as long as he can still hold rallies with Trump supporting supplicants to give him the attention he craves and there's campaign money for him to funnel into the Trump organization like he's already doing.

>>134162459
>People don't like Trump's tweets. All data suggests this.

You sound just like the retarded Hillary campaign who had gigantic supercomputers calculating all the probabilities of where she should campaign and where to focus (definitely not Wisconsin).

>>134162678
The cities are, as we all know, beyond saving. Those hundreds of thousands of shitty immigrants and blacks that cram into the cities and piss on them will starve out from lack of ability to take care of themselves. What you are seeing is the foundations for perpetuity all in red there. Those people run all the land to work it.

>>134162778
Very wrong. Reps will always be more down to earth and interested in people than Dems, it's part of their philosophy.

>>134149370
Have you not been paying attention? At the current rate he'll win 2020 in a landslide.

>>134149793

There are people here who actually still believed /pol/ memed a President into existence and that's all they need.

The US always goes back and forth, and it will swing back eventually. Trump and the GOP being complete shit while holding all the levers of power isn't helping Republican chances.

In 2004, Karl Rove believed in a Republican majority that would "last a generation." two years later, Pelosi was Speaker of the House. Not even mention Obama.

Anybody that claims they know anything about 2020 should be ignored. At this point both Trump & Obama would have been laughed at as possibilities.

>>134162459
> Be 2020
> 401K looking good
> got a good job and security
> no muzzie attacks

Nah, fuck Trump nigga tweeted something back in 2017.

>>134155485

I would believe that because that's exactly how it sounds coming from the NY Times, WaPo, Reuters, etc.
However considering we've had 6 months of failure regarding the authenticity/trustworthiness of the news we've been given I think it should be evident that most of these sites have proven unreliable when it comes to reporting about Trump (or Republicans in general).

>>134162771
Yes, he's transparent about what he thinks about 2 irrelevant morning show hosts.

They don't hate the fact that he tweets.

They hate the CONTENT of his tweets.

The sooner Trump realizes the difference, the higher his chances are of reelection and not getting routed in the midterms.

>>134150875

Actually what will happen is Pelosi will actually get bills, Democrats bills, to Trump's desk and he'll sign them.

He's not an ideologue, he's an opportunist, he just wants praise and signing ceremonies.

Trump's a kamikaze into the Republican Party, it's not going to be pretty.

I legitimately don't understand how anyone could say he's gonna win 2020.

I want it to happen as much as the next person, and I know polls are rigged as fuck, but the sole reason he won this time was because Clinton was even worse than him in the eyes of the rust belt. Literally all the dems have to do is run some commie kike puppet like Bernie again and they'll win by the biggest landslide this nation has ever seen.

>>134163151
Right, because it's not like he's actually talking about the shit he's doing.
You haven't read any of his tweets, have you?

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>>134160177
Oh you intellectuals, still trusting them polls hahahaha

>>134150978

> fake polls

Polls said Clinton would win the popular vote by 3%. She won by 2.6%

> Landslide

He lost by almost 3 million votes. He might be able to pull off another upset, but he's not capable of a landslide, most of the country hates his guts.

Do Trump voters not actually know how they won? Because if you think you'll catch lighting in a bottle twice...good luck in US elections with that.

>>134151362

There was no Bill Clinton or Barack Obama at this point in their days either. Keep those fingers crossed! LOL

>>134163496
Have you not been paying attention since the election? More & more people are leaving the dems behind every day.

>>134163315
Nigger are you familiar with Nixon and Regan's elections? Trump could jerk his dick in the Oval Office the rest of his days and not get blown out more than their opponents did in 76 (I think) and 84.

>>134160292
ya this is pretty much how I see it playing out too.

>>134163151
You really have no idea why Trump got elected

It was because of his tweets, he never backs down, that's why he's a strong leader.

>>134163496
State polls (the polls that actually matter because states determine the president not the national vote) said Clinton would win Penn, Michigan, and Wisconsin by 1-3%. Faggot.

Good luck winning the popular vote in 2020 after all the deportations and the voter fraud committee reports its findings. National voter ID laws and national concealed carry is going to be a thing before his first term is over.

>>134162963
wut. That has never been part of their mantra. They cater to christ cucks, which could give a shit about anyone else but other christ cucks (for the most part)

>>134163496
Trump won because he had a strategy and fucking deployed it to perfection. While spending a fuckton less than his opponent.

>>134149370
Not a chance, he's even more popular now than he was when he won the election.

Don't believe the MSM propaganda, especially if you're not actually in the US. I've noticed almost every single non-US country only highlights the absolute worst of the worst Trump propaganda to pass on to their citizens, to make him seem like a monster.

I live 20 minutes from the US border and go there often, have lots of friends there, and the sentiment that I've observed is that he's actually fairly well liked by the average working class Americans, and most of them realize the MSM stuff is bullshit because of how ridiculously biased and lopsided it has been. See the media is playing it wrong (for them), if they wanted to really scare people they'd balance their coverage of Trump more evenly, or at least something like an 80/20 split between negative and positive stories, but instead it's like a 98/2 split between negative and positives, and this only serves to create extreme doubt and skepticism. The MSM is literally playing themselves at this point and they're too committed to change their strategy.

I'm virtually certain Trump wins in 2020 and his odds only improve if he has any major successes between now and then, which is likely.

>>134163315
>Literally all the dems have to do is run some commie kike puppet like Bernie again and they'll win by the biggest landslide this nation has ever seen.

You are half right about that, but you don't understand, the Dems will never let anyone like that get nominated.

Democratic party is completely corrupted by corporate interests, they will only prop up the shills

>>134163315
there is no opposition party

>>134163411
Yes, he tweets about what he's doing. So did Obama. Those tweets aren't the issue.

The issue is the ones about morning show hosts and the ones about the 'fake news media' 5 times a day

>>134163811
Google "liberal psychopaths", this has all been studied.

Conservatives care about people, while liberals do not.

>>134161234
>TFW too intelligent to win

Fuck off

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Tulsi 2020

>>134163811
Not all people who go to church are religious zealots. But everyone who thinks a woman can be a man are goddamn fucked in the head.

>>134156847
He said he absolutely would though after all the Comey shit. Oh well you could be right he'll think up a bs excuse to not testify

>>134159566

>Delusion - the post

For Christ's sake he's doing fine.

Can you kikes just gas yourselves already?

>>134163830
Remember how they talked about how immediately he'll get elected he'll enact death camps, start nuclear war and cause WW3?

Guess people now trust Trump more than the media that keeps spouting lies like that now, funny isn't it?

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>>134163811
Kike libshit hiding behind a Gadsen flag. Imagine my shock.

>>134158940
Don't correct your enemy when he is making a mistake anon

>>134149538
>"We lost. How can we fix this?"
>"How about instead of running a woman, we run a black woman?"
>"That's it!"

>>134164884
The one that always baffled me was the faggots. Dude has been a NY playboy his whole life who deals in grand interior for hotels. Did they really think Trump was going to send them to gas chambers?

>>134155269
wow sure is a lot of substance in that

then again you could turn this into like 10000 occupy democrats articles that link to eachother

>>134164884
Remember how withing 100 days of him being elected he shot missiles at country that is allied with a nuclear power?

Remember how he is planning to build "safe zones" for the refugees inside middle eastern countries that dont have non-government backed journalists?

Remember when He started saber rattling at north Korea for literally no reason?

Are you just going to keep shaking your head smugly at the gulible lefties until you see the inside of a death camp/ conscript barracks with your own eyes?

>>134165653
The lefties in death camps was always part of the plan, it will be the first honest work you've ever done in your life.

At the current rate the Democratic party are gonna vote in someone really weak in the primaries who Trump will have an easy time against. If they're lucky a fresh young, charismatic Obama or Bill Clinton-like candidate will come out of nowhere (i.e not too much dirt). Otherwise Al Franken is their best chance against Trump (if he even wants to run)

Trump has lost his underdog anti-establishment advantage, he's basically Jeb Bush but tougher on immigration, I think its possible he'll have a drop in support like Obama did between 2008 and 2012 as people realize its more of the same bullshit. Or maybe neocons and GOP NeverTrumpers will hop on too, that is probably also likely

>>134154094
>unironically linking to Huffington Post

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>>134166499
Considering how everyone is still attacking him, he hasn't lost his underdog edge yet.

>>134150327
>objectively a disaster
I was just a bedwetter during Reagan, but Trump is already the best president since at least Reagan.

The only "disaster" is that the media is trying to prevent their literal death (at the hands of citizens) by running negative Trump propaganda 24/7

Trump is likely a top 5 president

>>134151217
>no significant accomplishments
Wall is going to be reality
Mass deportations
Backed out of Paris accord

He's already done more for America than Obama ever did, you gay faggot

>>134167297

Holy shit, so much THIS.

The MSM just doesn't get it...the very founding of the US was based on a "fuck you, I won't do what you tell me" type attitude. It's in our cultural DNA.

The sort term plan is to maintain the anti-Trump drumbeat for the 2018 midterms...but it's going to backfire on the CIA controlled media BIGLY.

>>134155876

Trump won, and the media was running forced memes 24/7 that he was unstable, would launch nukes and grab pussies. He *still* won with that shit stacked against him.

Four years will go by, and Trump will run again with a proven track record, no nukes launched, and no pussies grabbed.

He will win 2020 in a landslide. I plan on betting against my lefty friends with a 10 point handicap in their favor.

>t. ancap, not registered to vote, ideologically opposed to Trump's agenda

>>134163496
>most of the country hates his guts.

Los Angeles/New York/Chicago/San Fran does not equal most of the country. Step outside of the city sometime. Or dont, you might die under the weight of reality.

>>134149370
No, he'll win again.

>>134150124
Pejury? You're a fool. They didnt charge James Clapper, they're not gonna charge the president.

>>134153475
Lol

>>134149370
Don't know yet. Hillary might have a big enough ego to retry for 2020. That bitch is absolute insane.

>>134169648
The DNC won't let her. She can't win primaries without rigging and she was able to lose when everyone tried to help her.

>>134161294
Hey fucktard, 8 republican senate seats up for defense vs 23 democrat seats, and a lot of those seats are in states that went for Trump. Republicans are primed to get a supermajority.

>>134163743
He promised national concealed carry? Didn't know that.

>>134163830
Over here people are realising that the US MSM is bullshit too.. It's just that it's still parroted on our own channels..

>>134163903
Literally nobody cares about those but the corporate shills & the pussyhat-crowd.
Base loves it.

>>134158170
Maine, Minnesota, and New Hampshire red but not Nevada?