Is homosexuality a choice?

L - Does not exist
G - Does exist (mostly nature probably)
B - Women or confused fags
T - Mentally ill

It is entirely a lifestyle choice.

>>134142565
Everything in life is a choice. To say it's not imply it's genetic in which fags admit to a faggot gene therefore they can be culled

>>134142565
>Is homosexuality a choice?
yes.
you choose to get down with what you choose to get down with.

>>134142908
But why would they chose such a lifestyle if it means possible discrimination?

>>134142949
Is it not "easier" to chose a heterosexual lifestyle?

It's either a genetic hormonal disorder or leftist propaganda.

>>134142565
All sexuality is a choice, you chose to fuck, you chose to get sucked, you chose to suck.

Deal with it.

>>134142565
Most don't choose, but nobody is born gay. It's shit that happens in your life that can influence you to become gay

>>134142565
It's a choice for some (even if they're exclusively faggots) and not for others. Because it's not a choice doesn't mean it's genetic though. Prenatal hormones or early sexual experience before or during puberty will probably do it.

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>>134142908
nah, you can just tell with some guys that they're gay and can early on before they know what a lifestyle choice even is. it's at least sometimes genetic. case in point this fictional character here

>>134142807
Wow FPBP. But here's more:

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/new-research-further-debunks-regnerus-study-on-gay-parenting/

http://archive.is/Z4Gu4

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/05/10/new-criticism-of-regnerus-study-on-parenting-study/?utm_term=.dc5cef00d5f8

http://archive.is/SePdG

http://whatweknow.law.columbia.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-wellbeing-of-children-with-gay-or-lesbian-parents/

https://thinkprogress.org/conservatives-seize-on-hugely-flawed-study-about-same-sex-parents-bd797734bf40

http://archive.is/aym23

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/26/same-sex-marriage/

http://archive.is/g0kHt

http://www.gallup.com/poll/212702/lgbt-adults-married-sex-spouse.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_content=morelink&utm_campaign=syndication

http://archive.is/MlP5k

https://www.quora.com/What-percent-of-gay-men-in-the-US-are-in-a-long-term-relationship-and-how-does-this-compare-to-the-general-population

https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2016/8/29/new-scientific-study-sexuality-gender-neither-new-nor-scientific

http://archive.is/mOwUN

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/04/the-science-of-sexuality-how-our-genes-make-us-gay-or-straight/

http://archive.is/y64OH

>>134143686
tl;dr version being gay is likely genetically on the x chromosome but not fully understood yet. Most likely it makes women have more babies and when men have it they have less babies. It is a gene but isn't always activated by womb environment and even identical twins are exposed to slightly different womb environments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xq28

>>134142565
>if it's the later
*latter
>chose to be
*choose to be

A requirement of posting on Pol is that you use proper grammar, and not write like a nigger.

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>>134143920
Fair enough. The question still stands.

>>134144176
It's not a choice because nothing's really a choice. "Decisions" are determined by the subconscious mind and we're forced to go along for the ride. Sad, but true

the one gay dude i know well is successful and not flamboyant

he fucking hated his dad and i think his lifestyle choice was a deep level psychological attack on said father

>>134142565
I do not believe that it is not a choice.
For arguments sake even if it is not a choice it can be classified as a mental illness and I find it bizarre that nobody recognizes it as such.

>>134142565
you know that "gay friend" your gf has? he's actually a beta who realized pretending to be a faggot is the only way he can get close to women
that's why faggots are all like that. they're betas in disguise

>>134146827
I don't care about being close to women. You do.

>>134142565
Why do you fucking care? Trying to figure out why nobody gets boners to tuna curtains anymore?

>>134146911
lame comeback

>>134142565
Personally, I choose to be faggy. Women are fine but men are simply superior. A man will always endeavor to please you sexually. Not only will women fail at that, but they can't even cook a decent meal these days.

>>134146227
>it can be classified as a mental illness
Why?

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>>134142565

Neither, it's from (((them))) putting chemicals in the water that are turning the frickin frogs gay

>>134147636
>any of a broad range of medical conditions (such as major depression, schizophrenia, obsessive compulsive disorder, or panic disorder) that are marked primarily by sufficient disorganization of personality, mind, or emotions to impair normal psychological functioning and cause marked distress or disability and that are typically associated with a disruption in normal thinking, feeling, mood, behavior, interpersonal interactions, or daily functioning
>marked primarily by sufficient disorganization of personality, mind, or emotions to impair normal psychological functioning
Please tell me how homosexuality does not fit into this definition.
>inb4 homosexuality is normal
The normal physiological function of a man is to be sexually attracted to females. Let's even say that it does not have any effect on his quality of life (which is debatable but I will leave that alone) it still cannot be classified as normal behaviour.

>>134148126
What are the PHYSICAL diagnostic tests for any spiritual problems? I mean; for "mental illnesses"? Other than fucking zero? Psychiatry exists to put people inside little bird cages and that's it

>>134148126
>The normal physiological function of a man is to be sexually attracted to females.
Not really
Normal: conforming to an expected standard
Homosexuality seems pretty normal as it's a recurring pattern of behavior seen throughout human history and the rest of the animal kingdom.

>>134148126
>marked primarily by sufficient disorganization of personality, mind, or emotions to impair normal psychological functioning
Most homosexuals aren't mentally disorganized as a result of their homosexuality you fucking idiot, so no it doesn't fit the definition.

>>134148656
Most animals that fuck other members of the same gender do not take them as mates. Rather they are succumbing to their primal, animalistic urges. I'm not trying to do fags any favors, but when you have to compare yourself to a mindless animal to justify your behavior as "normal" : you have a flawed argument.

>>134148896
>it's not natural
>dont use animals as an example
>from ducks to goats to seahorses and peacocks and penguins and maybe lions--all of these don't fucking exist I have selective amnesia for sure because I don't like cheap vaginas and men are icky

>>134142565
It's not a choice, it's a hormonal disorder.

do you have free will?
have you chosen to put a dick in you?
this is the criteria we need to evalutate the fags with

>>134148579
>Psychiatry exists to put people inside little bird cages and that's it
You are presenting no argument other than "people are different get over it!"
I suffer from a panic disorder but the main difference between a homosexual and I is that I seek treatment for it, I don't have parades about it, and I don't make an attempt to normalize the behaviour. It is not an enjoyable experience and I'm not going to go out there and say that people should respect my mental illness.
Just because you enjoy your mental illness it does not change the fact that it is still a mental illness.

>>134142565
>false dichotomy
Human sexual response is more complicated than your oversimplified question
There are people born gay
There are people who choose to be gay
There are people who have different amounts of both these influences

>>134149113
Ive always found it neat. I personally wouldnt have chosen it but i'd be miserable with women. Many are. These are all literally brand new words. Not concepts. Just the words. But study after study says fags are more hung so if too much estrogen in womb maybe it is life long estrogenic rejection on their part that makes them bigger. You'd think maybe they'd be literally more feminine in their trousers. But just like everything else about them. Men are men and women are women. Mix em and pop some popcorn

>>134149057
I said normal, not natural. If every penguin on the planet was gay, it still wouldn't normalize the behavior for humans. Penguins also lay eggs, does that mean it's normal for all gay creatures to lay eggs? Of course not: the logic is flawed.

>>134148896
Most straight humans don't fuck other members of the same gender do not take them as mates. Hooking up and jerking off is also succumbing to primal urges. You're fucking stupid dude

>>134149150
No. And no. Thank you come again
>>134149189
I asked you one question. You failed.

>>134148789
Your reading comprehension isn't very good. Those terms are a list. Not all mentally ill people have disorganization.
Still nobody makes an argument here other than "WOW OMG I AM SO OFFENDED YOU FUCKING IDIOT" which seems to be common in people who support this behaviour in my experience.

>>134149316
Artificial eggs are made from sperm and from only male skin cells. I didnt read the rest

I want to believe it's a choice, /pol/. But what about their fuckin voices? Surely they can't choose to have higher pitched voices.

>>134142565
It's a fetish

>>134149150
Do you choose to get hard for naked women? Do you choose to salivate for a hot meal? We don't choose our desires moron

>>134149374
Yes, faggots are mentally-ill animals. I agree. Their degenerate behavior should not be used as representative material for what is considered "normal"

>>134149418
Oops your pseudo science quackery for charlatans is breaking down. Come tell the bus driver about all the meanies in your life and about your mom

>>134149496
Keep rackin up dem sixes, goof

>>134149594
bix nood mofugga?

>>134143139
Is it not "easier" to be a normal human instead of a Bronie?

>>134149532
tell us how the only true feels youve had have been for someone who resembles yourself more than others. because truely you're just a narcissitic parasitic fetishist faggot with zero foresite and nothing more

>>134149661
K

>>134149532
>pseudo science
Its literally in the definition of mental illness and you people deny that to fit your political agenda.
Personally I don't give a fuck what you do but just own it that you're not normal and its not a thing that is supposed to happen.
Also using the "it happens in nature" argument is bullshit too because animals can also succumb to mental illness.
But yes, continue to fling insults and make yourself look like an ass because that seems like the only thing the LGBT community is capable of.

>>134149493
You're right, it's your experiences. Someone who has never had good steak before won't salivate over it.

>>134149683
>made from a rib not the ground; does not receive breath of life
>blows out all of mankind in the garden
You still lay this shite?

As much of a choice as OCD or developing a phobia, its happens, its sad, but I think you can revert from it.

>>134149753
>animals have mental illnesses

>>134149777
Key word there is revert. It would be a reversion for sure in that case :)

Well, I pulled a knife on two guys trying to rape me when I was eleven. Was hit on many times before I was out of high school by older men. I don't know if it's genetic but they sure like boys.

>>134149447
this is why they cut me isnt it?
so black lesbians can have white babies.
tell me the truth shlomo!

>>134149894
I was hit on like 42 times by guys my age but not older who were "straight"

>>134149823
If animals don't experience mental illness then how do you explain the behaviour of shelter dogs?
Most animals are capable of some form of thought.
Again, you still present no argument.

>>134149904
I unno. Surrogacy is beddur

>>134149418
YOUR reading comprehension isn't very good. "that are marked primarily by sufficient disorganization of... [listed criteria]"
Homosexuals meet NONE of them, nor do they meet the initial standard of "sufficient disorganization." I think you need to get checked out for mental retardation.

>>134149754
Yes they will. That shit is baked into our minds.

>>134150030
Fallen angels corrupted animals too

>>134142565
It seems to be subconsciously decided upon at a young age. I do not think it is a choice but the gay person can choose to be normal with it, or be flamboyant and involve themselves with the associated culture. It's similar to a fetish in my opinion.

being gay is a choice for bisexuals

>>134149693
My point is that other animals don't normalize behavior for each other. Just because a bunch of lions are gay, that doesn't mean it's normal for humans. If we were to use the literal definition of "normal" and apply it to the whole of humans, homosexuality is considered ab-normal. Here's another example of why your logic is retarded:
>99% of land creatures that aren't human shit on the ground and often themselves
>hurr durr but animals are human
>therefor it's normal for humans to shit themselves
See how retarded and flawed your logic is?

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>>134142565
id say the latter and then try to justify it with the former

see, i am a neo-nazi but i fantasize about shemale cock. but, if i were to act on my impulses, i would absolutely hide it. why be open about being gay? its equivalent to having down syndrome

>>134150146
Dude. I dont care to converse with you

>>134149962
These guys weren't straight

Holy fucking shit you newfags. Get with the program already. The rise of homosexuals comes from the rise of early childhood sodomy that is occurring through child sex trafficking rings and occult rituals practices by the world's elites.

The whole push to normalize homosexuals and degenerate sexuality is to make the people think it's normal that all these psychologically traumatized and broken people are suddenly popping up in the world.

Get yourselves educated you stupid fucks and stop playing into the agenda by debating this LGBTQ shit.

http://www.whale.to/b/knox1.html

>>134150174
What is the biggest insult on here? Cuck. How does one cuck himself to a man?

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>>134150197
faggots are also a major leading contributor to child molestation and abuse. pic related is you

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>>134150061
>I do not think it is a choice

So by your logic, a person is predetermined to be gay or not by birth?

This board is going downhill fast boys

>>134150197
I'm starting to believe you're just shitposting at this point.
You have been presented with valid arguments and the only thing you can come up with to counter them is insulting people who disagree with you.

>>134150300
xplain

not sure what this has to do with my post

>>134150292
Some mason guy said homos arent allowed to join replying to an anon talking rumors about same thing. Youre way too far down the vagina hole to do you any good
>>134150235
Nobody is. Thats my newest way to see it. Kurt cobain said this too. Remarks like "im black below the belt" seal the deal. Compare any board's penis content to bagoo content and women lose every time. It's only men here. What does that tell you. Why is every single OP a fag? You have literally no idea how purposefully ignorant or wrong you are. These guys went on to marry and have kids. Use your brains

>>134149962
Guys your age? Pretty sheltered actually

>>134150437
Just like you. Also you suck and I clearly beat you
>>134150484
Read it. Answer it.
>>134150401
Kike

>>134150548
Have you decided that which youre crying about, female teacher who rapes boys? I dont even look at old fatties

>>134150567
>calling out the flawed logic and degenerate behavior of faggots, including the disproportionately large amount of homo's that are responsible for sexual crimes against minors
>kike
choose one and only one

>>134150567
it doesn't make sense, homie. if you try having less down syndrome, maybe i'll answer you.

>>134150492
Huh?

my nervous system is stimulated by stimuli does this make me gay rabbi?

>>134150734
You lie your ass off to cover your own right wing horse pubes
>>134150740
K

TALCUM X

>>134150774
This. You pirates are always so fucking based. Stay based son
>>134150759
Wat

>>134150800
>>134150401

>>134150402
>So by your logic, a person is predetermined to be gay or not by birth?
How is that controversial?

>>134142565
>And if its this later

What?

HABLAS INGLES, FAGGOT?

>>134150629
Try to sober up. I said I was hit on by a lot of older gags as a teenager. Dafuq you smokin?

>>134150913
>>134150800

>>134150976
Awesome. It means there's no correlation plus i made you look like latent noballs

>>134149679
Bronies don't get thrown off buildings though

>>134151049
Uh huh

>>134150292

theres been gay sex since forever idiot

its human nature, its also found in animals

>>134151089
Neither does anybody else. CGI and Yiddish accents

i used to think so but its not i first realized i was more attracted to penises when i found a porn magazine under the bathroom sink when i was 5 and looked more at the cock then i did the woman with her lips around it then one of my uncles visited and stayed at the house and one morning i tried to sneak a peak at his dick while he was in the bathroom

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>>134150800

If you use Grindr, and you live in/near a city, you can literally get your dick sucked every night for free.

If men could choose to be gay, they'd all choose it and then fuck each other constantly. Men aren't frigid like women.

Alas, I only enjoy vagina.

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>>134150986
yeah, man: that's my end game. i go around making up inaccurate statistics to slur the name of homosexuals en masse on a korean rice seeding forum. it's definitely NOT that an extremely large number of sexual predators are self identifying gays. it's definitely NOT that the truth makes you uncomfortable.

>>134142565
being gay may or may not be a choice, but being a faggot about it is

>>134151049
I have never argued about correlation dumbass. I said in I'd been attempted to be rapes and hit on by older men when I was a teenager

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>>134151309
You're a boomer but for nagging men about their dicks. You have no self awareness. You are blind to your own surroundings. Vaginas dont make heteros not perverted. I would never do such a thing but you just go from one pile of tampons to another pile of alimony

>>134151504
Truvada, old sources, 50 shades of dick police obsessions

>>134143920
No need for a comma. Nigger.

Yes, there seem to be two types of masturbation. submissive and dominant and I've also had violent. The submissive masturbation puts you in a state similar to milo yiannapolis. Fucks you up. The way to deal with it is just by masturbating like a man. I've had molestation issues so this happened to me early on. Its not that complicated. Also if you have a bitchy boner ive found that fucks up my mentality and i have to clear it out of my system then go back to masturabating normally to have a good state of mind. When I'm in a bitchy state I can't look people in the eye and my head feels more flowery. Its a struggle but really not too big a deal. Just gotta be a man

>>134151621
>when your brain finally succumbs to the new form of syphilis created by your multiple, anonymous partners

>>134151995
Yeah, I think this guy is a little mentally off

How off? Like begging for change in the street? Or taking dicks in the mouth and comparing myself to a penguin to justify it?

>>134151995
>>134152103
You two are fags

The simple answer is yes.

>>134152288
oi vey what hate speech lock xer up!

>>134152288
Admit checkmate faggoy

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>>134152377
>expecting a faggot to be sane and rational
>accuses someone else of being mentally off
wew lad

>>134152476
Bowlin for wews

>>134142565
Its a choice based on the complex interactions between the individual and its environment. I dont doubt a good psycologist could map out the forces. Although saying "we were born this way" is the dominant political opinion.

>>134148126
>The normal physiological function of a man is to be sexually attracted to females. Let's even say that it does not have any effect on his quality of life (which is debatable but I will leave that alone) it still cannot be classified as normal behaviour.
Shitposting for 8+ hours a day on a mongolian rice forum isn't normal behavior, yet here we are.

>>134152527
>psycologist

>>134142565
I wouldn't say it's a choice. I'm genuinely physically attracted to men, and I find women completely unappealing. I'd rather be called mentally ill than be with a woman.

>>134152616
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if homosexuality isn't a choice why do so many men turn gay in prison?

The attraction is involuntary but one can choose not to act upon it.

Isn't this very basic logic?

It's a choice for women, not for men.

>>134152569
-Positive relationship with a strong father figure you respect so you subconciously and consciously emulate his behaviour
-wanting to and understanding that being attracted to the opposite sex is the correct behaviour
-not being molested by someone of the same sex as first sexual experience.
-not having your sexuality groomed by the media or people towards hompsexuality

>>134142565
Some people are born gay, others turn gay because of childhood trauma or fetish porn. Some anons have consciously turned themselves gay by fapping to traps, then feminine men, then more masculine men until they can get a boner from gay porn.

>>134142908
Being celibate is a lifestyle choice.

>>134142565
Not born with it but it's not necessarily a choice. It's a coping mechanism for sexual abuse as a child. Every faggot or tranny I've known or heard of has been sexually abused as a child in some capacity.

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You ever notice how the pro-gay argument could also apply to pedophiles?
>it's not a choice
>animals do it
>if everyone is consenting, no one is getting hurt
It's almost like there's some connection between homosexuality and pedophilia...hmmm....

>>134154666
Your post number says it all. It perfectly encapsulates both yourself and your entire point of view. This post was richer in irony than eating deep fried butter. I really enjoyed seeing that. Point at this highly disturbed individual and laugh please

>>134146827
you're retarded

>>134142565
being gay/homo is something you are, being a lgbbq+ promoting faggot is a choice.

>>134154666
Kids can't consent.

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>>134155000
>muslim influence in your nation dependent*

>>134143023
Sometimes being a snowflake is all you have.

>>134142565
It is most likely a combination of genetic and environmental factors that causes someone to be homosexual.

>>134151871
No need for a comma, nigger.*

>>134142807
Tired: Being gay is a choice
Woke: Gay people don't actually exist

>>134155598
ayo hol up so you be sayin we wuz dick suckas n sheit

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>>134142565
Yeah, I think it exists. I also thing that, to a large degree, it can be suppressed. Of course, this is all at the individual's leisure.

If homosexuality is a choice then why can't I force myself to get a boner to man ass and avoid women entirely? Can't believe this is still a question people ask.

>>134156505
I'm pretty gay and I can get a boner for women.

>>134156505
weak imagination son. which is good. you havent been judaned

>>134155879
sauce?

>>134156761
That just means you're bisexual then, faggot.

>>134142565
>Are people born gay or do they chose to be faggots?
yes

>>134156980
nope her body her choice

>>134156980
I much prefer men like emotionally. Physically I get a boner but emotionally I'm not very invested in it unless there is a man involved. I'd also rather spend extended periods of time with men.

>>134157422
>Physically I get a boner

Then you are bi, end of story. Being gay isn't a choice, saying you're gay is.

>>134158562
Like you get a boner from physically rubbing it and inserting it into holes that cause friction. It isn't an emotional feeling and I think most people can experience it with either sex. Being gay is about wanting to live with a male whom you regularly have sex with and that doesn't describe most people and most wouldn't, and don't choose it.

>>134142565
they choose it

>>134158728
>Like you get a boner from physically rubbing it and inserting it into holes that cause friction.

No I don't, I'm straight. If I get rubbed and think of women then I get a boner. Rubbing by itself doesn't do anything.

>Being gay is about wanting to live with a male whom you regularly have sex with

No, that is describing an ideal gay lifestyle not what being gay is.

>>134159023
Being gay is emotionally being attracted to men. That is intrinsic and fixed. Many are not attracted to men. That is fixed. Emotional attraction is not a choice because it isn't physical. Sex parts are mechanical.

>>134159145
you fucking dumb shit, you arent born with sexual feelings it happens later in life

>>134159283
From puberty I knew I preferred men. I also knew earlier but it wasn't as concrete a feeling.

>>134142565
It's spread through child abuse. It's a mental illness caused by gay men molesting young boys. It can be cured by electroconvulsive therapy (ECT).

>>134159321
I was never abused.

>>134159145
>Being gay is emotionally being attracted to men.

But it's not. We are talking about homosexuality, the physical attraction to men. Emotions have nothing to do with this.

I'm bi. I made a choice to not limit my options.

>>134159368
Physical attraction in your sense implies an emotional component. Sex can be unpleasant. Like it would be for you if you were forced to have gay sex. Straight, gay for pay porn actors existed before Viagra.

>>134143630
Get a life Jews!

>>134159333
Milo says he wasn't abused either, even though he admits a priest had sex with him at a young age. That's statutory rape, children aren't able to make those choices under any circumstances. I don't trust faggots because I know faggots. Don't think you can play that game.

>>134159453
For a gay man you sure know nothing when it comes to what being gay means.

>>134159453
i like how hard you are trying but you are just spewing out a bunch of fucking bull shit, its a choice and you know it, you as a faggot just want fake info handed to you, the LGBT community is cancer and you are stupid for believing that it isnt a choice, you didnt know earlier as a "concrete feeling" and even if you did, it wasnt when you were born, so techinically you chose to because of how you felt.

>>134159659
Takes one to know one
>>134159721
So you choose to be an expert yes?

>>134159744
Take your chinaman dick and tell us when you decided you liked being a clam cuck

>>134159869
because you are a dumbass and i fucking hate people like you

>>134159422
Having no preference is a different category of fucked up. Less likely from sexual abuse, more likely from severe physical abuse and a broken home.

>>134159955
So you looked around and at yourself and men pissed you off. So you're a lady yes?

>>134142565
I never seen a gay kid in elementary school growing up, there was however a gay middle school kid. You could tell by his demeanor and the way he talked. High school had a dozen gay kids. I think it's choice or the way they grow up

>>134159820
It doesn't. Faggots are more transparent than dykes.

No and yes. It's a result of imprinting at a very young age. And one can be re-imprinted to abandon degenerate thoughts and desires.

>>134159978
no physical abuse, parents did get divorced when I was 11 or 12 though. I have a love hate relationship with my mom, me and my dad get along great. I lived with my mom and 2 sisters for 6 years, the the steps moved in on either side. didn't decide I was bi until 28, just a couple weeks ago actually.

break me down, senpai.

>>134160007
no, i'm just saying you're a fucking retard and you're trying to twist it around when you are the retard posting this thread to a topic you already know the answer too.

>>134142565

It's a choice. Many fags are hypersexual males. They get bored or tired with having to chase and pursue females, so they settle for men instead. Where they can just instantly go have sex by making eye contact in a gay bar or using grindr. They find the physical act just as pleasurable or more so, and that's all they care about.

There's a reason gay men have hundreds of partners and why there aren't a whole lot of stable gay relationships.

>>134160243
Desperate need for attention. Nah.

>>134160406
You have no idea.

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>>134160192
Correct.

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>>134142565
Speaking from experience, it's a fetish people choose to engage in and fetishize.

>>134159659
I'm pretty sure he understand the behavior is taboo he was just trying to be edgy and also remarking that it didn't affect him too strongly, which is possible.

>>134160192
Being gay is hard as shit. If it were easy to repress more would do it.

>>134160708
Absolutely terrible take.
You are retarded

>>134160500
to me he has a distinctly african american look to him not like moroccan even though he has fairly pale skin he still retains some sub Saharan features in my eyes.

>>134160763
You just have no idea what it is like to be gay. Being bi would be saying I am open to relationships with women. I am not.

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>>134142565

>Are people born gay or do they chose to be faggots?

You tell us OP.

>>134160810
Being a repressed homo is like the most classic shit of all time. You're just a contrarian

>>134160810
thats because you're a faggot who enjoys being poked by men, oh and about being hard? oh boo fucking hoo i'm sure you being gay is waaay much worse then whats happening in arabian countries

>>134160980
I realize now that he's just a bait-master. I should have never replied

>>134160973
Yeah but the point is it is not easy or pleasant to have to do so, and is not a requirement imposed on everyone.

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>>134151504
Fucking Brilliant... This is the reason I am addicted. This is the reason for getting up in the morning.

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>>134161051
yeah fuck this faggot, i agree with you i shouldn't have either

>>134161186
Its not bait just because you don't like who I am.

It's not genetic, twin studies prove the 'born that way' argument false.
And it's not pure choice because heterosexuals can't choose their autonomic reaction to naked female body vs naked male body, even though you can choose not to act on thar lust.
So in short, it's neither birth or choice.
It's a third option. Now my hypothosis specifically for male homosexuals is mental illness, reliving the sexual abuse suffered at a young age. They still should bear full responsibility, absolutely. I also think it could be combo with a disease, there are certainly anatomical characterisrics that are different on statistical averages, things that could happen in early childhood.
Females are more mercurial, there are essentially no purely lesbian women dispite the media, they can phase in and out. It's essentially moot to begin with, there are no interconnecting parts and they often just mimic shallow stereotypes of males. Core problem is a lack of a sense of security naturally provided by men, they'll create it themselves if they have to.

>>134161982
womb environment is accepted as part of it

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>>134142565
It's probably like Austin
Some people are more prone due to genetics
but your experiences while still young probably determine your sexual preference

While you are young, you brain can be molded into anything
By the time you reach the end of puberty, your mind is mostly formed into its adult mode

TLDR 50/50 nature/nurture
This is why it's important to raise children correctly

>>134162096
I knew when I was about 6.

>>134162019
Womb environment is negated by twin studies. It's incorrect.

>>134162279
twins do not have exactly the same experience in the womb hormonally, even identical.

>>134162375

A new study of twins provides the strongest evidence yet that homosexuality has a genetic basis, researchers say, though they say other factors like social conditioning may be important.

"We found 52 percent of identical twin brothers of gay men also were gay, compared with 22 percent of fraternal twins, compared with 11 percent of genetically unrelated brothers," said J. Michael Bailey, an assistant professor of psychology at Northwestern University in Evanston, "which is exactly the kind of pattern you would want to see if something genetic were going on." By "unrelated," Dr. Bailey was referring to brothers by adoption.

"The genetically most similar brothers were also the ones most likely to be gay, by a large margin," he added.

The study examined 56 identical twins, 54 fraternal twins and 57 adoptive brothers recruited through advertisements in gay-interest publications.

Identical twins are genetic clones, having developed in the womb from a single egg that split after being fertilized by a single sperm. Fraternal twins develop simultaneously from two separate eggs fertilized by two separate sperm cells, making them only as similar as non-twin siblings.

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>>134162279
https://www.advocate.com/health/2015/10/09/study-dna-identical-twins-can-reveal-whos-gay

Researchers say they've come up with a formula to reveal someone's sexual orientation using DNA found in their saliva that is 67 percent accurate.

The study, presented Thursday to genetics experts meeting in Baltimore, traced the genetic changes in identical twins that when combined help determine whether someone is gay or straight. It’s the study first to claim a method to detect sexuality, reported Reuters.

"To our knowledge, this is the first example of a predictive model for sexual orientation based on molecular markers," said Tuck Ngun, a researcher at the David Geffen School of Medicine of the University of California, Los Angeles, who led the study.

According to Gallup, about 3.8 percent of the adult U.S. population identifies as lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender.

>>134162513
At an American Society of Human Genetics meeting in Baltimore, Ngun stated that he studied epigenetic changes called methylation in 47 pairs of male twins. Identical twins have the same underlying DNA, but the epigenetic changes can make big differences in what happens to them later in life.

In 37 of the twin pairs, one brother was homosexual and the other wasn't. In 10 pairs, both brothers were gay.

Dr. Margaret McCarthy, who studies the developing brain at the University of Maryland School of Medicine, said in a statement that this study provides more evidence we were indeed "born this way:"

"Developing male fetuses produce very high quantities of testosterone during the second trimester and this directs psychosexual development along masculine lines, a component of which is preference for females as sexual partners.

“This study provides a major step forward in our understanding of how the brain can be affected by factors outside of the genome. It is also possible that the experience of being a homosexual or a heterosexual has itself impacted the epigenetic profile. But regardless of when, or even how, these epigenetic changes occur, their findings demonstrate a biological basis to partner preference."

>>134142565

Homosexuality as far as I know is not a choice any more than weather or not a person prefers hot dogs, or tacos.

However acting out on that homosexuality IS A CHOICE.

Many homosexuals in the past would stay closeted. They would get married, have kids, build a loving family, and have a happy life.

Nowadays these people are taking drugs, and indulging in copious amounts of sex spreading diseases, and not creating a new generation.

>>134162457
Archive https://archive.is/PSmzQ

>>134153772
this

>>134142565
>Are people born gay or do they chose to be faggots?

Neither. It's a psychological malfunction at ego formation at about age 2.5. it's too deep seated to be fixed.

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>>134165903

help /b/ bleach the redditors
>>>/b/739359032

>>134142565
It's like asking are men born with beards or do they choose to grow them?

Once the hormones kick in during puberty your sexuality comes out. You have no choice, it's just how your brain is wired up and hormones bring it to life.

>>134166043
growing a beard is a choice.
men can choose to be fags by doing it with fags.
but real men choose pussy.
its the best choice.

>>134166495
So you're saying being straight is a choice? That's the gayest shit you could have said.

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>>134166495
Do you really think this is a choice?