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Identity Europa the American Identarian Group.

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Is this American Identitarian group just as good as Generation Identitare?

I mean should I join? I'm sort of on the rocks about this.
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>>134129334
Yes do it. I just joined myself.

Ask me anything.
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>>134129466
Hows the organization? I hear it's fairly organized.
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>>134129334
yes. Join, you want to win don't you? You don't win by shitposting all day, you gotta get up improve yourself and fight in the streets for our survival.
>>134129466
How many members are there? Is it growing?
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>>134129587
Pretty good hierarchy. Regional divisions across the country and state subdivisions. Everyone follows structure when planning things. Pass ideas upward when new ideas arise for approval.

Impressed me desu.

First vetting is over Skype then new member meet up.
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>>134129645
Not sure of exact number. But the new arrivals showing up steadily every day.
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>>134129334
Easiest way to get your dick sucked and pound some virgin boipussy, that's why I joined and why I'm so excited about Charlottesville.
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>>134129768
That's pretty good. I just don't want to be in a terribly organized group.
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>>134129996
Yeah me neither. Nice to meet irl people who share common ideals too.
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>>134129587
>Hows the organization? I hear it's fairly organized.
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>>134129466
Do you pay monthly/annual dues?
What's the vetting process?
How do you keep under the radar of Mr. Fed?
What about the rumors of faggots infiltrating the movement?
How does it compare to other groups (Vanguard America, TRS Pool Parties, DS Book Clubs, Iron March, etc.)?
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>>134130327
I mean I hear it is, doesn't mean it always is. I just don't want the outside appearance to decieve me.
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>>134129334
Are they fans of mudvayne? Do I have to do a 23 and me? I think I'm a quarter jewish.
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>>134130488
Doesn't matter as long as you have a tight ass desu
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>>134130361
Do you pay monthly/annual dues?

10 month sure. Goes towards activism.


What's the vetting process?

Interview over skype. Have to have a good image. European. Knowledge of the rightist movement. Then in person interview. No je ws.

How do you keep under the radar of Mr. Fed?

We are "not nat socs". Firm rules over what you can publicly say.

What about the rumors of faggots infiltrating the movement?

Unfounded.

How does it compare to other groups (Vanguard America, TRS Pool Parties, DS Book Clubs, Iron March, etc.)?

More organised and more active as far as I'm aware. Growing pretty fast. Youngish.
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>>134131075
How many new people do you get a day?
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>>134131075
Are there any qts or is it just dudes?
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>>134131594
Varies. ~5 atm. Sometimes more. Interviews take time.
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>>134132295
Quite a few.
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>>134132387

How many states do they have chapters in?
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>>134132796
National. Just check the site and apply dude.
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>>134129334
>on the rocks

that's not an expression
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How secure are the membership rolls? Likelihood of getting doxed? I want to join because I like the aesthetic but I might put it off until I graduate college in the Spring
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>looks at resume
>Identity Europa

Into the trash it goes!
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>>134133115
Definitely don't join until college is over if u are worried about doxxing
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>>134129996
If you don't like hierarchy and strict rules IE is definitely not a good choice. Out of all the movements IE is the most strict and serious about activism and image optics. if you join IE and fuck up and make everyone look bad u get the boot
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Bumping
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>>134133791
>is fashy
>doesn't like hierarchy

Might as well be antifa desu senpai
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>>134134296
No I wasn't bashing IE at all. It's just actually good that people understand how serious IE takes their shit.
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>>134129334
Dont waste your time. Like its EU counterpart it will just be a bunch of larping kids, dabbling in politics when they really have no idea what they are doing.
It is also funded by people with lots of money, who have their own agenda / reasons for distracting our kids like this. I will leave it up to you to decide who they are.
Ignore this crap. It is nothing more than a distraction.
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>>134129921
Thats a lie
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>>134133115
Not IE member but a member told me that you can sign up with an alias so you don't have to use your real name
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>>134129466
>>134129768
>>134129870
>>134130215
>>134131075
>>134132295
>>134132349
>>134132387

this nigga 'A4czVaFG' is the god dam feds talking to himself in this thread trying to convince you LARPING white nationalist faggots to join his 'gang' so they can start monitoring and controlling you. "american identity" and the european originial version are obviously a psyop
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>>134134667
>being this much of a cuckold.

Do you even know where you are famalam?
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>>134135446
Hi shlomo
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>>134129334
IE needs to understand they are the premier alt-right organization, they are poised to become to national force for the alt-right and identitarians in the US. They need to stop being so damn exclusive and get serious about saving our race. You aren't serious about saving our race in the US when you have excessively strict rules that exclude some of the most active white nationalists in the country.

They rejected the autistic NatSoc image only to repeat their purity spiral mistakes. Shame.
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>>134135446
Whatever you say. Thanks for the bump.
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>>134134667
>>134135446
>dont leave your house
>buy music on this streaming service
>consume this food from X country we provide to you with immigration visas
>white people killed indians you have to die
>remember the holocaust? ya you need to fucking die

every anti-meetup fag is the biggest nosed heeb IRL
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>>134135446
>anyone who goes outside is a fed, goy!
Because staying in your basement and fapping to lolis will surely save the white race
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>>134129334
I'm in Identity Europa, Very solid group.
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What percentage of jew blood can I have? I have serious doubts that your membership roster is composed of genetically 100% europeans. I mean realistically I could just lie because I look white, but I don't want to do that.
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>>134135808
IE could have triple the numbers they have right now if they did what you are describing.

Instead they choose only the best most stable individuals.

The reason for this is security , optics , and safety.

If you let in anybody , you let in the retards who fucked up the movement in the 90s. The outcasts , the garbage humans , the criminals.

People that get drunk one night , grab a gun , and shoot up a mosque and destroy the entire organization.

IE has realized quality is superior to quantity.

Pic related. This is why IE is hyper autistic about recruiting and rules. Something like that could destroy everything
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>>134136038
Implicit
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>>134136143
Their are no jews in our group or non-whites, You get screened.
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>>134129334
If you want to be on a FBI watchlist, sure go ahead.
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>>134136282
How so? You make people do a 23 and me? What is your percentage cap? Again, I highly doubt ever single member is of pure 100% European stock.
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>>134136179
I mean I would post proof but id end up doxxing myself at the moment, It is good and im glad i joined. I mean I can go on and on about it but for a lot of people it will just fall on deaf ears.
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>>134136423
Np bro. See you in Charlottesville (maybe).


Btw, make threads about the event.
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>>134136400
You're last name is usually a give away, no Bernstein or goldbergs. You take a webcam/skype interview. I mean do i really have to describe to you what "white" is? really bro.
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>>134136170
Nothing wrong with having quality membership. But I've dedicated myself to their cause, doing quality work, and they kicked me because they confuse strict rules with quality members. A dude having tattoos or a wife who is "only" 80% European doesn't mean he's going to shoot up a mosque. It's fucking absurd to even suggest such a thing.

Like I said, they are unnecessarily limiting their membership. There is no other organization poised to be a national voice for the Right. But they throw their unique position and opportunity into the trash in the name of purity.

Our race is in dire straights in this country. We WILL become a minority, unless a real national movement arises, with an organization to represent it. The current iteration of IE cannot fill that role, and nothing else comes close.
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>>134136665
I'm going to try to make it down. Will do.
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>>134136695
Kek. What I'm saying is that I have a German as fuck last name, but I know that one of my grandparents was Jewish. I look white, but know I have some Jewish blood. I identify as white and you'd never second guess it If I told you. I just am pointing out that "looking white" doesn't necessarily mean your 100% white.
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>>134136824
We talk about that often, Group isnt perfect and we have some flaws but Nathan takes it VERY VERY serious I can't blame him, We don't want into turning into a shit brain skinhead group thats main message is "gas the kikes race war now" type of bullshit. Their are flaws but we are working on them.
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>>134137051
You'll be fine Schlomo, I guarantee there is at least one Jew or #1 Goy in that group.
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>>134134667
>EU flag
>can't advertise with claims that "water quenches thirst"
>telling anyone else they have no idea what they are doing
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>>134136824
IE is just one cog in the alt right machine dude. If you are not a fan of strict rules try another one. Or even make your own.

There is literally nothing stopping you
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>>134129334
I wouldn't say it's as good as generation identiare
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>>134129334

>triangles

might be a jewish plot, desu
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>>134137328
Ya but that group has been around for a long time. IE is like less than 2 years old. IE's growth is fucking explosive
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>>134137051
At the end of the day would you rather defend israel or europe? And i mean defend it not pretend to and once europe is burning you fly to israel. Or you say you stand for europe but shill for israel all the time and want rapefugees for muh-diversity.

Of course its hard to find people that are mixed with jews, That's why jews are so good at pretending to be whites. Thats why your character gets tested. If you turn up a schlomo you get booted
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>>134137510
I know.
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>>134135619
Yes
>>134135848
Youre talking shit boy.
>>134137243
What?
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>>134137279
There is plenty stopping me. I don't have the resources, the connections, nor the time to create a national organization. I barely have enough time to create the content and be active in the communities I'm currently in. It makes no sense to start from scratch when IE is already in a position to become a powerful force. All they need to do is rethink their excessive rules.
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>>134133791
It's not like you're walking on a tightrope. Just be a competent, non-crazy person who's not too intense or too much of a sperg and you'll be fine.
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>>134137847
We are exploding, Most of us are actually surprised at how many applicants we get on a daily basis.
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>>134129334
Been a member since November. Great fraternity.
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>>134137988
And yet your organization's rules would have rejected even people like Mike Enoch and Millennial Woe's who have done wonders for our cause and our people.

That fact alone should give you pause and make you rethink your strategy.
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>>134138335
hahaha i've met mike and milennial a few times, Were on good terms with them. Mikes a pretty funny guy too I'd hang out with him any day of the week. Nah both of them haven't joined because they focus on their podcasts/radio stations.
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>>134137706
>What?
here
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html

I made this picture EU compliant
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>>134138335
Can i ask you what you did to get kicked out?
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>>134136824
Go join a TRS Pool Party or Daily Stormer Book Club or the like. You'll probably be meeting up with IE people anyway, you just won't be part of the IE organization.
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>>134138529
They don't need to join, they've already established their niche. I'm talking about the people in the same situation as them who are trying to rise and are being denied from the most important IRL organizing group.

If either of them tried to join and were honest, before they achieved their fame, they would be rejected. Correct?
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>>134131075
How exactly do you join and do you get together to meet in person? Also, do you have people from each state and how could I get connected with the people in my general vicinity?
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>>134138757
I don't know why Woes would have been rejected - Enoch, maybe. But I'm not Nathan.
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do they have a leaf chapter?

are they interested in starting one?
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>>134138757
yea obviously there not some random shmuck off the streets they have proved countless times they are on the same page as us, duh?

Thats why we would let them, and not some random from off the street that for god only knows could hop in and start mucking everything up like Redd.t did to this board.
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>>134138757
listen your logic doesnt make sense. Yes IE is the largest. But its by no means the most important or even the most effective. Its just THE ONLY ONE that has reached a critical mass
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>>134138915
because of canadas laws alt right activism is tricky. (see the proudboys getting thrown out of the military)

But they exist if you look hard enough
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>>134138915
Hmmm we haven't really talked about a Canadian chapter yet. Still focusing on america, Also were about to become a minority in the states so most of us are hyper focused here. Couple more election cycles + 10 more years of migration and we could be following south africa and rhodesia.
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>>134138688
I married someone a decade ago, before the term "alt-right" even existed, who isn't 90% European.

All members and their partners must be 90% European according to their rules. And they will request a 23andme if there are any doubts.
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>>134137988


What is the official stance on violence?

Nathan and others were kicking leftist ass all day in Berkeley on 4/15

does IE have any kind of militant/fighting training system?
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>>134139163
>90%
There goes the majority of potential members.
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>>134133169
>Putting your participation in fringe political groups on your resume
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>>134139248
>What is the official stance on violence?
ehhh hahaha we don't instigate it, Kind of cucking to the NAP atm because we are still growing. But when we are at rallies and what not as you've seen nathan in action. We wont bend over for anti-fa and people like that.
>does IE have any kind of militant/fighting training system?
Not really, i mean we have our own version of /fit/ that alot of people are apart of, We actually have quite a few if not a majority of people that are very fit. Might be surprising to you but were not like retard skinhead fat neckbeard organizations.
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>>134139163
Ah.

Thats an easy one. So basically the reason this is a rule im sure is that you cannot ask somebody to be committed to the white race if they have to emotionally care for a family member who isnt white.

Yes its obnoxiously strict. But its gets rid of 100% of the people who engage in identity crises.

2 very good examples of these people are kyle chapman , who one day is talking about white genocide , and the other talking about how he isnt a white nationalist ect. This is because his family isnt white , but he is. And he is torn between these two things.

Another example is that spartan dude from berkeley with the latinx gf who had a mental breakdown and went full antifa

Again. If you are actually committed to helping white people you would not get hung up on IE.

they kick out tons of people. Broken window policy. Personally i disagree with it heavily. But the thing that kills movements is people trying to drive the truck from the backseat.

Join other groups.
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>>134139348
Yea not compromising for non-whites sorry dude, Were not kekistani civic nats.
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>>134139348
most white people fall into the 90% catagory
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>>134139105
I've been looking hard and the only thing that exists for BC is the northwest front, and that too is american.

BC doesn't have any separatist party but we have TWO communist parties

>>134139149
The chinese are taking us over and I'm focused on that but I recognize we will probably need help from our bro. I hope this turns into a North America-wide thing soon

I'm drowning in the nonsense up here boys
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>>134139573
>If you are actually committed to helping white people you would not get hung up on IE.

Obviously IE has more power, and thus more responsibility, than individuals do.

So turn this logic around. If you are actually committed to helping white people, you wouldn't get hung up on 90% purity for all members and their family.

And of course that's just one rule. There are prominent homosexual leaders in the alt-right. I won't name them.

And of course the rules on felonies and tattoos... When Nathan himself is a felon with tattoos.

>Join other groups.

Right, I've already moved on. Which is the problem of course!
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They let in college students right? I reckon that's the bulk of their membership
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>>134139573
I like the 'kick out lots of people' policy. Fringe movements attract fringe people, you have to be on your guard.
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>>134140270
hmm a lot of our members are in that age group, Mainly 20's. We have a few ex-politicians and maybe a couple that are currently in office. Some older people that are doctors,Lawyers, ect. Well rounded but yes a majority are in their 20s
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>>134140176
Dude it's about stability, surviveability, and no drama. You don't know how people are going to turn out, so you cut way inside 'the line' and stay conservative. It's defensive. And it isn't crazy-strict - be presentable as a normie, not prone to too much excitement or weird ideas, well-white, and you'll probably be ok.
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>>134139573
>>134140013
Wait, so being 7/8 white and 100% American ancestry with white-exclusive eye and hair color, I'd be flat out rejected?
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>>134140176
based on your vindictive airing of old dirt and whining about hypocrisy. Its not a problem. Somebody made the right choice in removing you.
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>>134140902
no
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>>134140902
no, apply. The people that deal with the applicants are competent enough to determine what you are.
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>>134129466
Is Nathan Damigo the the leader and founder. Is it true Nathan Damigo was in prison. Not trolling.
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>>134141165
Nathan is the leader and founder
>was he in prison
Idk doesn't really matter desu
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>>134140926
Wrong. I'm telling you what you need to hear to change for the better. If you want to paint it as vindicting whining, that is your problem, not mine. Any organization in the position IE is in who would reject Enoch, Woes, myself, and countless other dedicated identitarians over bureaucratic rules, is pointed in the wrong direction, period.
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>>134141165
ya pretty fucked up story.
He went to six flags and the nigger roller coaster operator said he was too short to ride so tore his throat out with his teeth
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>>134135446

Shill on, shill!
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>>134141345
whining about greg johnson (who has been almost completely blocked by everyone in the movement in the past month) is gay vindictive retard shit

Whining about his tatoos when the rule is about image , not moral standards is vindictive whiney girl shit.

You just sound dumb. I already agreed with you that the rule thing is getting lots of potentially good people cut.

But some of the best soldiers in our armed forces cant be navy seals unless they dot every I of every autistic pointless test they are made to go through.

You could be the best rifle shot in the world and flunk out sniper school if you cant manage to stalk.

IE will either survive or die with time. The people its creating are EXPERTS. so if IE falls apart in 2 year the people involved will go on to create amazing movements.
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>>134141397
Probably just trolling. An article said, he pulled a gun out on a cab driver.

>>134141255
>Idk doesn't really matter desu
The baggages is why.
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>>134141909
>so if IE falls apart in 2 year the people involved will go on to create amazing movements

Of course, the real threat is not that IE falls apart, but that it stagnates, and slows the progression of a true national political organization for whites that can change the course of history.
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>>134129334
IE is partly run by Nathan Damigo, a degenerate shilling for shekels. He is a felon who can't get work, so he combs his hair and begs gullible goyim like you.

Also, they mostly just put wanna be vaporwave flyers up at universities, you're better off spending time expanding your gun collection.
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Is American Vanguard a good group? I fucked up my interview with them, but they said I could re-apply so I'm reading some books in the meantime.

>>134129334
How is it? How long did it take?
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>>134142346
uh if growth keeps going at the rate its going in 2 years IE is going to be the largest white activist group since the height of the KKK

Commander rockwells army at its height was like 400. IE has been around less than 2 years and is at 600.
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>>134142587
how did you fuck up the interview? Genuinely curious.
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>>134142587
vanguard is a good group. But they are on the farthest of the right as far as activism goes. Its like the darker older brother of IE that smokes in the school bathroom
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>>134142633
I would argue that anyone who thinks 600 is an impressive number doesn't truly recognize the threats the white race is facing.

We don't have a decade to slowly build up to 10,000 members, which amounts to 0.003% of the US population.

If that is the goal, then the goal is wrong.

Your rules select for neither quantity nor quality, since quality is measued by individual dedication and effort toward the cause, and not a checkbox of purity rules.
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lol this race is a joke
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>>134143383
damn that's kind of embarrassing to be honest. I mean I love my fellow white man, but a lot of these guys look insecure.
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bit of in a pickle here, parents are from mexico but look white

been told by mom that we have a whole family tree of french family members who came during the wars fought there

skin looks like pic related, don't know if I'd be accepted
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>>134143173
Uh as far as activism and politics is concerned the amount of people who control this country politically is fewer than 5000.

IE having 5000 members would permenently change this countries political activist landscape

You have no fucking clue what you are talking about and its a good thing people like you are removed because the most poisonous people are the ones who think they know how meta politics work when they really dont.

the goal of the alt right is not a nazi party. its bigger and more threatening. Its a permenant and viciously politically hostile global white identity

Its not 10 million IE members. You dont need anywhere near that many people to bring massive change.
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>>134143500
>>134143383

theyre doing something about the problem while you sit here on your computers and masturbate to traps

theyre taking a picture together that they know their bosses at work will see and most likely forever condemn them to unemployment

it takes stones to do what they do so shut your mouth unless you are going to start your own movement and show them how it's done
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>>134143845

mexican blood is disgusting and produces disgusting people
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>>134143845
>tfw 100% white
>skin is exotic color from living in texas
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>>134143845
Just say you're Sicilian and you'll be just fine.
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>>134142685
just tired and didn't have energy for questions
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>>134143845
You're good as long as we don't find any aztec grandfather
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>>134143845
Take a DNA test.
Follow the culture who's people's blood runs through your viens.
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>>134139163
Burn the coal pay the toll
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bumping
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>>134137627
there were a few hundred jewish nazis

there should be a "pro-white jews" organization so it's separate from groups like ie, but so that jews have an outlet for activism separate from cuckservatism or leftism
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I'm half Czech and half Anglo. Took an AncestryDNA test and it came back 100% European.

That being said, I work in a very multicultural environment, and hold nothing against my coworkers of different races. They get shit done just as I do.

I'm interested in joining IE, as long as it isn't the stereotypical retarded movement of the past. I'm 100% Texan before all else, and relate very little to your typical /pol/tard. How hard would it be for me to become a member? I'm one of those guys that you wouldn't expect to be on /pol/, yet still am. SETX reporting in.
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>>134146630
nice cock and nice peacock
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>>134147356
from everything i have seen they are a very competent, non-cucked but non-"hateful" pro-white group
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>>134147356
You sound like you would be fine.

It's defenately not one of those old movements.

Go to the website and apply
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>>134131075
>european
hahahahaha
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>>134147508
Appreciate the response. I'm a "relatively" successful fuck so I was apprehensive to post in the first place, I just feel like the autism kills what could be a successful movement for fellow whites.

I'm friends with many blacks, hispanics, and asians alike. I love some of them like they are family. Real world is way different than shit you see on here. But I still recognize the right to promote ones race, and make sure it succeedes in the hairy future we have ahead
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>>134133002
Are they in Canada?
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>>134129466
Any rules on physical fitness?
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>>134143845
You're not white. You're a mestizo. Sorry.
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>>134147809
Would love a link to said site; google was to no avail, unless you consider SPLC a valid source. We both know that's a sham.

I also have a metric fuckton of Czech-Texas migrant info, as well as a solid databank of Czech-Texan history. Our people have a beautiful history in the Lone Star State. My favorite bastion of history has to be of Moravian migration to Texas
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>>134149509
Yes. They require members to be physically fit. If you're fat they won't accept you as a member
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>>134143845
Post results
https://www.kairos.com/diversity-recognition
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Shameless bump. Any Texans on board?
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Some guy did a Q&A about IE awhile back on /pol/

The following turned me off from them:

>there's no real official requirements on the chapter-level for a chapter to remain a chapter aside from don't be complete fags

>They let women join their chapters

>their primary focus seems to just be protests

A lot of national fraternities require chapters to join community service type places, maintain some kind of minimum GPA or something which will get you kicked out if you violate, etc.

I honestly imagined each chapter would require their members to be practicing martial arts, lifting weights, reading, etc. but it seems more like a social group for people to vent frustrations.

The guy literally said maybe I'd be lucky and join a chapter where one of the members is big on weight lifting.
Lastly, it's not a fraternity if they let in women. Not to mention it loses that sense of masculine tribalism you read about in traditionalist books.


tl;dr It's a good start, it's new and perhaps my criticisms are only partially valid, but they still have a lot lacking
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>>134147508
what are they competent at though?

Keep in mind you don't win a cultural revolution by protesting or yelling at people with signs.

It has to be subtle.
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>>134152237
>Keep in mind you don't win a cultural revolution by protesting or yelling at people with signs.
niggers and jews did
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>>134147936
>decendants of Europeans are 0% European gooooy!

Nice try, smelly jew.
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>>134152334
No, that is just what you're told by the education system.

Right there that is already proof that it's more subtle.

This is how you win a culture war
>have your members embody what they preach
>have them all be great at fighting
>have them all well read
>have them all muscular. as in competitive powerlifter level
>have them all charismatic
>have them all be well dressed

You don't argue with people. Arguments don't do anything either. When you have a person like this, people will naturally emulate them like a child emulates his father.

They will associate whatever you say and believe and do with success. The success they want.

That is why I have a bit of an issue with IE. They don't really require those things aside from dressing in pollos during protests. It's just a social club with a theme.
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>>134133791
>Out of all the movements IE is the most strict and serious about activism and image optics

That's good, anyone that wants to be a tatted up fat skinhead degenerate that makes Shlomo smile deserves the boot.
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>>134152566
No shit it's more subtle. It's propaganda warfare.
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>>134152835
propaganda warfare is really the only warfare there is when it's not open combat.

any protest is literally a big meme. It has never accomplished anything but making you say more things than you planned to safely say.
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>>134136824
>Like I said, they are unnecessarily limiting their membership.

If you don't fit their exclusive requirements, there's other groups like the Trad workers party, they take all sorts of tatted up, non fit guys.
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>>134129921
FAGGGGGGSSSSSSS!!!!
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>>134144306
Dumbass
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>>134153000
IE takes non fit guys.

the group photo on their website at the NPI conference has a fat guy in the front row.

I've been told they purposely put up their more attractive members during public events which I commend them for. However, it's not because of membership requirements.
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Member of Identity Evropa reporting in.

Great Lakes chapter.
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>>134153211
Do you guys let in women?

Is there any form of honor code or initiation ritual/ceremony?

Do you let in overweight people?

What strict membership quality guidelines are there that can get you kicked out if you don't uphold them?

What self-improvement aspects are there which are required by every chapter?

Do you guys do community service of any sort like other national fraternities?

I'm interested in IE but forgive my doubts. I really want to know what I'd be getting into and confirm it before I do anything.
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>>134129334
Can anyone convince me it isn't a honeypot?
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>>134153610
think of hard questions to ask them. If you get good answers, they're a good organization. that's what I'm trying to do in this thread.
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>>134129334
It's dicky boy's pet project. Enjoy feeding your dox to the feds.
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>>134153610

They kick out anyone who starts doing "HOW DO YOU DO FELLOW EXTREMISTS" fed shit. Why would it be a honeypot? Since when it's illegal to look for the interests of your own race and meet likeminded individuals? Maybe in Germcuckistan but not in the USA.
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>>134153696
Yeah - i kinda fear the dox
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>>134129334
Why should i be an identitarian? What makes it different from white nationalism? The perception i have of them is that they are civic cucks
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>>134153509
We have alot of women, obviously men are the majority.

Basically just don't misrepresent the fraternity and as for rituals there really aren't any. Proud boys require you to get your ass kicked but we aren't that autistic.

Slightly overweight is fine, but we want to have the fittest members as possible. If you are not actively working to better yourself, then you shouldn't be actively fighting for your people.

No sharing of private discord messages, probably not leaking confidential information if you hear it, etc.

I'm not sure what you mean by this one, If you mean personally it's the same as above, better yourself and engage with local students/people around your age to bring the group more into the spotlight.

I haven't done any service personally but there are specific chapters that do small events such as that.

Join IE. You can leave at any point and I have been in for 5 or so months now. I am very open about it too, and haven't lost my job, torn friendships or family apart.

>>134153610
As a member and meeting other members personally, it definitely isnt.
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>>134153610
>>134153696
I want to add

look into regular national fraternities. That is what I did.

A lot of them have things like the chapter treasurer (because they manage funds towards projects), historian, things like that.

They also require you to swear an oath, even get hazed (which is a good thing) to earn your way in rather than just be told "hey you're a member now XD" as well as to filter out shitty weirdos.

I want to know if IE does these things. Naturally I won't ask about hazing, but it'd be great if they did it.

Like having you do an impromptu speech in front of the chapter or something to test how sure of yourself you are as well as a way to check your ego. Maybe even sparring with their best fighter in the chapter in front of everyone as a way of making you earn your reputation back from embarrassment. Things like that.
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I got rejected from identity Europa or not being European enough.
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>>134154061
>We have alot of women
yikes

>there really aren't any
another yikes

Proud Boys is so autistic that they don't even beat you up properly. They pretend to haze you.

When people do beat-ins, it's to purposely humiliate you so you don't come in with a huge ego, but instead have to earn your reputation and honor back from step 1.

Imagine if you embarrassed yourself badly in front of your school. You have to work back up and EARN the respect otherwise that embarrassment is always tied to you and you are seen as weak and know it.

>Slightly overweight is fine, but we want to have the fittest members as possible. If you are not actively working to better yourself, then you shouldn't be actively fighting for your people.

When you don't have actual standards which risk you getting kicked out, people will regularly violate these "implied" standards which don't really exist and are just ideals in your head.

It's quality control and ensures you don't get overwhelmed with low quality people who just barely made the cut.

>I haven't done any service personally but there are specific chapters that do small events such as that.
so no

It really just seems like a friend group but with a title. There seems to be no specific and enforced quality or purpose.

Again, I don't want to be rude, but IE just seems like it was made on a whim without any planning.
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>>134154069
Doing something about of embarrassment or any form of hazing isn't a form of discipline or dedication.

It's inane and defeats any purpose of doing some autistic ritual such as that.

Any shill can go along and do part of the hazing process but what defines who you are are you actions for your people.
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>>134154416
>Doing something about of embarrassment or any form of hazing isn't a form of discipline or dedication.

hazing has been a cultural ritual in military groups and fraternities since time began, dude

It's not a social construct or culture, it's literally biological and is found literally across the globe throughout history in almost every gang, fraternity (up until feminists and liberals began banning it), and even in many elite military units.
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>>134154404
Women are the future of the white race. They should be able to join, and if you disagree go join some poor mans group such as vanguard america.

Listen, shill. If you are here just to disagree with anything I have to say then go fuck off on /b/ or some shit.

Just because it's not absolute up to your standards doesn't mean we aren't doing anything for my people, because your disagreements literally makes you a nigger.

Look up IE's work for the communities, it exists, just my area doesn't have alot of people warranting gathering together for something such as that.

You aren't being rude, no, but you are being quite nihilistic against the foundations of what the group is doing.

>>134154614
IE isn't a gang, IE isn't an elite military unit, IE is a fraternity, but every fraternity doesn't have a hazing process.
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>>134154864
They just sound like civic nationalist cucks. They police your speech. They are not explicitly racist. They let int hots. They make you pay to be a member. If you keep compromising to attract normal fags, then that is all your movement is going to be filled with
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>>134129334
Well Damigo is a real nigga and their flyers trigger the fuck out of the judeo-liberal establishment so they are cool in my book.
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>>134154864
>Women are the future of the white race. They should be able to join, and if you disagree go join some poor mans group such as vanguard america.

Fraternities are literally male only. Sororities are literally only female only.

That's how it's always worked. When you introduce women into the mix, you lose that friendly spirit of masculine competition.

Imagine a girl joins your boxing group. Instead of the guys actually competing and earning respect, you have to start pretend fighting with her and giving her fake victories because she literally can't compete. You have to hold yourself back and not actually compete anymore.

>Listen, shill. If you are here just to disagree with anything I have to say then go fuck off on /b/ or some shit.
Ah there it is. I came to ask questions I wanted to ask after looking at the appeal I found in established fraternities.

Doesn't make me a shill. IE is a gang/tribe/etc. I don't care as much about hazing, but more that you guys don't actually have any real requirements that come along with membership.

like what the fuck. You freely admit that too.

Any specialized group has requirements and codes of ethics. Firemen. Police. Military. Teachers. Lawyers.

If they break them or fail to meet them, they lose the ability to be part of it. You're literally taking masses of regular joes and giving them a collective name tag.


Let me emphasize that last bit. You have no requirements that come with membership. You freely admit that.
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>>134153782
The feds already have your dox by posting on /pol/
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>>134148039

Don't understand what you are saying here. You are friends with non-whites but want to join an organization that wants white separatism?

Either you are confused about what these organizations are about from an ideological point of view or you don't understand what friendship is.
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>>134155068
>civic nationalists
>only allow those of Euro descent

pick one

>police your speech

Not really, just dont go sperging about 88 while wearing the uniform/representing IE

>they let in thots
based off of what? Are you intimidated?

>not explicitly racist
If you say fuck niggers no one will listen to you, but if you say keep the nation white, people will listen to you. It's psychological warfare.

There aren't any normies, everyone int he group believes in the same things.

>>134155248
That's simply just not true. Fraternities are any form of group that share a common interest. Single-sex groups are only a feature prominent in certain fraternities.

This isn't a boxing group, we aren't fighting each other, we are fighting for each other, fuck off with your shitty analogies.

We absolutely have requirements, you have to be of white, non Semitic heritage, mostly to absolute physically fit, spouse or sig other has to be the same, have to know about the alt-right. It's all on the website, clearly you're too retarded to search yourself.

At no point had I said we take in any random guy that joins, there's a high list of undesirables that do not make it in, let me emphasize you clearly too much of a pussy to join, and that last bit reflects my opinion of you not IE's.

You would rather shitpost on 4chan and use spongecuck memes rather than actually get out in the field fighting for your people.
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>>134155841
>This isn't a boxing group, we aren't fighting each other, we are fighting for each other, fuck off with your shitty analogies.

It's a self-improvement example.

Training martial arts among men bonds them. Lifting weights among men bonds them.

Women offer nothing to it because they can't. If I bench 3 plates for a single rep, that's actually really good. If a woman benches 1 plate, we all have to pretend it's good.

>We absolutely have requirements, you have to be of white, non Semitic heritage, mostly to absolute physically fit, spouse or sig other has to be the same, have to know about the alt-right.

you can sum that up like this

Requirements to join IE
>Be white, non-semetic and date/marry only whites
>don't be obese, but being overweight is ok and we don't require you to be fit, but it's a plus

FYI, any white nationalist group requires you to know what white nationalism is. That isn't a requirement, that's just common sense.

Can I please have real requirements? You're getting hostile but I simply want to ask questions that really matter to me and I think a lot of people interested. I don't want this to be a hostile conversation.

Please give me actual requirements and responsibilities that come with membership of IE.
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Is anyone here involved in NRx groups?
I've heard there's a few regional ones, but they're very small
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>>134155841
What is the point of identitarianism? Why should somebody want to join? What do they have to offer?
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>>134129466
Does it have any specific stances on certain issues. I.e., immigration, foreign policy, etc?
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>>134156419
a social circle apparently.

I keep asking him for specific requirements and responsibilities that come with membership to IE and he can't give any.

It makes me really skeptical of the group. I support them 100% because they are unironically the best we have right now, but fuck man.
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>>134156243
The group isnt about male bonding, If you want an orgy go join proud boys and shove shit up your ass like McInnes.

There are IE weight clubs if that matters to you, there are hiking trips, there are camping trips. There are many events that bring members together.
No, I said being slightly overweight is fine, but in current scientific study being overweight is very easy depending your height/weight.

I'm sure you seen the one picture above of IE at the NPI conference, the guy on the front right is absolute fattest any IE member is.

What do you want from an identitarian group?
Please enlighten me on what you would believe would be proper requirements.

You care nothing for the movement and if you did, would do your own research than rely on the posts of some random anon on 4chan.

You're just a counter signalling kike. This is my last post.
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>>134156531
I suppose they don't hurt our movement but i don't see how they really help it. This cucky civic nationalism is not going to get us anywhere. If all we do is try to attract normies then all our movement is going to be is normies
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>>134156306
I googled some as I'm an NRxer myself, but yeah they're all overly small.

>The group isn't about male bonding
Then you are forsaking the whole concept of traditionalism and masculinity and I have to question your own social standing in regular life.

Again, I'm not trying to be hostile but male bonding is actually a big thing when it comes to traditionalism.

>Please enlighten me on what you would believe would be proper requirements.

This is specifically how I would make a fraternal group

>have people pledge. They get approved to join, but they aren't members yet
>have them go through a study course where they learn the code of ethics, honor code, and membership responsibilities as well as the structure and history of the organization
>to finish the pledging process, have them do a sort of initiation (safe legal hazing) which tests their manhood

Methods:
1) Giving an impromptu speech in front of an unruly crowd

2) Having them spar with you to give them a reality check of how much they need to improve and for them to check their ego at the door

3) Having them attempt to complete some basic fitness standards like running a mile in so and so minutes.

4) Maybe even go out in public and point at random women and have them try to get their numbers to see how genuinely confident they are.

>have each chapter have two required group activities, with a number of suggested activities before being commissioned as an official chapter

I would have a required book club every two weeks or so, and a requirement for going to the gym. The optional suggested activities would be things like shooting teams for targets and skeet, general athletetics. etc. This way not only are the men competing physically and mentally among one another, but they can also compete among other chapters.


Let me ask you a question: Is there actually an official chapter hierarchy or do people just sort themselves out?
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>>134157381
The group is explicitly hierarchy.
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>>134157638
No, I mean like roles.

You find in things like the Masons or college fraternities, people have ranks or specific jobs which are universal and required by all the chapters like the treasurer, pledge educator, chapter historian, the president of the chapter, etc.

I think there are also general ranks where people are like officers or something so if something comes up like an odd job or something that isn't a regular duty, they do that.

ie. If someone needs to arrange for catering for a meeting or has to help plan an event in advance.

things like that. Actual organization.

Again, nothing I say is meant to imply hostility. Is there rank structure in IE like other fraternities?
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Join, support your race. Damigo is a good leader.
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>>134135446
Proof?
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>>134157841
As I said before, a fraternity is only a group of people who share the same ideology (at least one of the definitions)

The group has structure, national, regional, state, and depending on the state, it may have state regional, but not as an official title.

There is always someone who is delegated to form an event, make sure proper permits are filed, etc.

I'm going to bed. Just look into it further and join the group. You don't have to pay dues right away and you can just leave at any point.
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>>134157841
They are working on it and it is becoming a lot more organized with a hierarchy and real life activism/fraternization.
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>>134131075
>not nat socs
Dropped
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>>134157381
>Then you are forsaking the whole concept of traditionalism and masculinity and I have to question your own social standing in regular life.

you do know that Jack Donovan is a faggot... with a latino bf right ?
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>>134158482
Yes he is, and he wrote an entire book calling out modern gay men as degenerate scum and how they should return to traditionalism instead of hedonism.

Even in The Way of Men he explains why people hate gay people and why they are justified.

He's very masculine, traditional, tribal, and pro-European culture. He's on the right.
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>>134158621
I should add he's full on Pagan, which is more European oriented than a lot of /pol/ users and IE members.
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>>134131075
>European
I wonder how many pagan LARPers will join, whilst denying the fact that American society has always been Christian. Also, the whole point of being American is to reject European views. You might as well call the group Europa: American division.
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>>134158967
After asking tough questions to the IE member in the thread and being called a shill for it so quickly, I imagine that IE is just going to end up being nu-/pol/ in real life.

This actually really bugs me. I thought IE was a lot better then I found out.
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>>134158967
there are pagan members of IE. All members are either pagan or christian, but as far as I can tell, majority christian.
>>134159121
Join and find out for yourself. You think being a keyboard warrior will save western civilization?
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>>134159121
I can answer questions for you, but obviously there are some details I can't give
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Am I the only one that finds it moronic to have a Europa group within the US?
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>>134159266
>country primarily settled and built by descendants of europeans
>"hey fellow goyim isn't it stupid to have a group that advocates on behalf of the descendants of europeans and works to better their situation and defend their culture?"
i wonder (((who))) is behind this post
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>>134159387
Yes, although said country has developed it's own culture apart from Europe. We are no longer a British colony you retard.
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>>134159257
I already asked a few like pic related above.

This is what I understand about IE.

>You are a fraternity but allow women
>there are no membership responsibilities or guidelines other than be white, marry/date white women
>don't be obese, but being fit isn't required, just desired, so you can be overweight
>there are no sworn oaths, official codes of conduct, ethic codes, or initiation ceremonies. you just get in and that's that.
>there are no official hierarchy roles like chapter officers or treasurers, etc.
>there are no required vocational activities like soup kitchens or community service
>no educational aspect of it which is mandatory

tl;dr it seems to just be taking in quantity over quality.

Like you just join and that's it. The things I mentioned above, like what you guys don't require is actually required by any mainstream and successful fraternal organization. They have standards to enforce which thus keep a productive culture alive rather than just desired.
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>>134157841
There is a rank structure and it's important to remember that it's all split up into regions, which have their own ranks. Nothing very serious and the ranks are more like different rolls.

The reason there isn't such a focus on ranks is because most things happen regionally.
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>>134159527
It seems like you're looking for reasons to dismiss it. Obviously the issue with women is divisive, but it is not what you are thinking. Women will never be in positions of power, as a rule, and they have important roles IRL situations. It's not cucked by women. Many people disagree with letting women in, but it doesn't cause friction because we understand the end goal.

NOTHING in IE is mandatory and there are practical rreasons for that but you won't move up in the ranks without participating. Of course there's education and fitness oopportunities. There is a code of conduct.
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>>134159937
>NOTHING in IE is mandatory
can you name one competitive specialized career in the real world which doesn't have mandatory requirements to ensure quality?
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If you have something to loose should you avoid the group (real threat of job loss, future employment, public office ect). How are people who have established careers and public identities suppost to navigate this. Do we stay in the silent majority? Do we let you take the brunt of the backlash while we do our unaffiliated parts? Real world question.
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>>134160016
Since when was IE an occupation? It's an organization. If you have skills to do something there's an outlet for you to do it. If you don't do anything you won't go anywhere. IDK what to tell you. We reject 80% of applicants.
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>>134160178
IE is an occupation if you expect its members to start fighting in a cultural revolution and influence the country.

That's just not a casual hobby.

Firemen, police, lawyers, surgeons, etc.

They all have things naturally expected of them to do their job correctly, and they are required to uphold codes of ethics, fitness, and much more to have such a prominent role in our world.
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>>134160083
A lot of us are worried about being doxed and everyone is respectful of that fact. Antifa is doing everything they can to dox our guys but if you're smart about your online identity you'll be fine. There are plenty of opportunities to meet up with minimal threat of doxing. Go to a big rally and that's a different story but even then if you're smart and lay low you'll be fine
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>>134135446
>hippie
okay.
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>>134160348
OK and? IE is no different. You don't get to publicly represent IE in public if you aren't well versed on the talking points, proffesional and fit. But those aren't necessarily for web developers, etc.
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>>134160876
what?

A web developer has to follow codes of ethics as well in terms of law and actually know how to code and uphold a competitive level of quality in coding if any business is to hire him and allow him to actually do anything.

Same for IE.


The culture revolution is a competitive game among other fraternities trying to sway and influence everyone in the country. you aren't the only one. You have to be "hired" first.
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>>134161044
Exactly
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>>134137847
Your propensity for whining and complaining and trying to sow discord might just be part of why you got booted (if you're not just a shill.)
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>>134161206
and my point is that IE, for some reason, doesn't have any real organization or purpose aside from being a social club and associating generic conservatives (who had to fight THE ENTIRE ELECTION SEASON to prove they weren't nazis and their beliefs weren't nazi) with white supremacy.

David Duke endorsed Trump and that did more harm than good.
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>>134137847
you're right. They are too exclusive and they give conservative talking points like immigration a bad name because actual white supremacists say it's a white nationalist issue, submerging it in dogma.
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>>134137051
1 Jewish grandfather doesn't matter according to Nazi Germany race laws. 3 or 4 makes you full Jew.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischling#
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Nathan Damigo is a midget race mixer with no spine
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>>134141255
It matters a lot. He acted like a nigger in a stick up hang and pulled a gun on a cabbie to try to validate his manhood cuz he's a midget. Put it up against the guy's temple for no reason other than a power surge
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>>134161328
>>134161328
Except your wrong and don't know what you're talking about. I'm done discussing this with you. There is organizations, there are ranks, there is a strict code of conduct, and specific rules of conduct for other roles and positions, and there are requrimets to move into certain positions. If you have skills you will use them, if you dont you won't do anything. There's opportunities to learn and grow.

Nothing else left to say. You don't honestly care you just want to dislike and doubt it. It's hardly even a year old. Keep watching from the sidelines
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>>134161819
*stick up gang
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>>134161834
>heh keep watching from the sidelines as I just hold up signs in protests and further associate general conservative issues and voters with white supremacy by endorsing them

You probably don't even lift weights.
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>>134161834
You're being lead around by the nose by people who don't give a fuck about you. Get it while you still have your dignity
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>>134162045
IE will fade into obscurity like all the other countless white nationalist organizations in America.

a lot of legitimate concerns and criticisms have been raised in this thread about them.
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>>134141165
Hitler was in prison too you know? Who the fuck cares as long as the movement is growing with quality people. In 10 years imagine how many members you will have if the Left keeps their shit up! Although the US probably only has 20 years left until you guys become a minority
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>>134162164
Hitler was arrested on bogus charges of trying to destabilize the government.

I don't think you can equate that to robbing people.
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I'm not in IE but I recently joined Vanguard America. Pretty similar group that is closely associated. We are all going to Cville in august. Also went postering at my local college 2 nights ago. Felt good to do something irl no matter how insignificant it is. Even triggered the College Democrats chapter at my college to tweet out about the "hurtful and xenaphobic flyers". pic related is one of the many posters we put up
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>>134162045
You're right this thread really opened my eyes.
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>>134162474
Isn't this like an SJW being triggered, spouting about radical feminism, and being an asshat in general and then her being associated with lesser extreme liberals?

Think of generic conservatives and how this makes people more hostile to them. I mentioned it earlier, but remember when David Duke endorsed Trump and how quick people were to associate the KKK with generic conservatives?

Listen, people will always call us Nazis, but when actual Nazis do this, it can ruin it for everyone who isn't (aka the majority of right-wingers)
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>>134162487
Fair enough. Nathan is nothing special. They don't offer you anything you couldn't do yourself. You barely know these people. Just remember that before you pledge your allegiance to them. I could be wrong but this isn't the first of its kind
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>>134162727
Too bad I made a blood pact with my local IE chapter and am now forced in for life. Also got a tattoo and they know my real name and identity plus. What the hell am I supposed to do now?
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>>134162676
The only people who don't practice identity politics are conservative whites. Libs see anyone right of Obama as a nazi. They literally cant differentiate fucking Hitler and Donald Trump. We need to accept the label, anyone still trying to be a colorblind "true values conservative" aka ben shapiro tier, will be eaten alive. The JQ is real, white genocide is real. Playing nice and kissing the lefts ass shows weakness and will never win. Conservatism is fucking dead and just follows liberalism but about 50 yards behind being drug by a rope. We need to cut that fucking rope
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>>134162949
it's a war of propaganda, friend.

The world stage of politics is not a battlefield, but a theater. You can't rush in with your fists in the air so quickly.
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>>134162931
That's fine, man. I hope it all works out really well for you. No sarcasm
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>>134162241
Well he did try to commit a coup so it was justified. He was just lucky the judges were Right-wing and liked him. Now it's the opposite.
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>>134163073
No dude you were right I shouldn't have pledged my allegiance to them.
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>>134135446

>NOT IF I SHIFT INTO MAXIMUM OVERSHILL
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>>134163058
Thats the problem. The left sees politics as a battleground, the right sees it as theatre. The left doesn't care about optics. They win and silence dissent. The right needs to gain the power to silence dissent back. Being an alt lite faggot who cares about optics will never gain that power. Youre playing the left on their home field. We need to make them come play on our field
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>>134163223
This was all a test


You passed.
I hope that IE tattoo isn't visible
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>>134163311
no, it's a theater by default. that is how propaganda is done. Family Guy, American Dad, celebrities endorsing Obama/Hillary.

publicizing that picture of the drowned child.

It's propaganda, not actual fighting in the streets or just posting a poster that says "FUCK WHITE PEOPLE LMAO". It's articulated and planned. A theater.
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>>134163412
Youre still playing by rules that the left set, in the game they made. You are appeasing the left. Make them appease us. Make them have to play our game. Leftist propaganda is much more overt, conservatives have to stay super lowkey about slipping their message into (((pop culture))). Dont give power to hollywood
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>>134163595
well it switches back and forth.

When liberals were weak and smaller in number, it was probably the same way for them. The protests they did didn't do anything. They silently put liberal professors in place, silently put liberal directors in hollywood, and silently funded people who could give them a good image in general.

Now it's our turn to do just that.

Protests and holding up signs are just autistic screeching where you can vent your stress for a little bit and feel like something was accomplished.
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>>134163346
What'd I win?
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>>134163763
The ethnostate
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>>134131075
>>What's the vetting process?
>
>Interview over skype. Have to have a good image. European. Knowledge of the rightist movement. Then in person interview. No je ws.

This sounds fucking hilarious, like Varg interviewing people to become Vikings. What the fuck is wrong with you retards.
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>>134155841
>>134155248

There are advantages to both schools of thought here, both play an important role and neither conflicts with the other.

Stop trying to tear each other down and focus on whats important.
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>>134161633
rofl where did you find this?
This could probably get this kicked.
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>>134164141
>lets just let everyone in with no sort of screening process
>what could go wrong?
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>>134139163
Maybe you shouldnt be a racetraitor then.
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>>134163727
protests were a staple part of the 1960's communist revolution or else they wouldn't have shown it to me a million times during k-12
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>>134151278

Lol I got 18% hispanic but I am fjcking german and look saxon. My family is documented in Hannover since 1300.

That twst is bullshit.
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>>134129334
Everyone believing in something liek "European Identity" is a retard. All the european countries with hundred years of history value their soverignity. European Union is destined to fail, all the individuals are not willing beeing dictated by socialist-collectivist-authoritarian cult!
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no thanks. people irl already suspect me and the last thing I need is to be putting my info or image under some other orgs opsec. especially an org that has almost certainly been infiltrated by some of the same people that have looked for me in the past.

I've got antifa right on my fucking ass lately to be quite fucking honest, joining anyone does not help me with that.
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>>134129334
It's a Hvney P0t
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>What do these kind of organisations actually do?
>Are the only people who join losers who can't get anything else done in their life?
>Is the only thing they're up for going to protests and basically just walking in the street?

I was impressed with Generation Identitaire when they opened an MMA gym in Lyon. That's a good step and heaps better than doing stupid marches that don't convince anyone and make you look like a bunch of losers.

I've looked into right-wing student groups here in Belgium but from my experience they are populated by losers or civic nationalists.
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>>134166970
shut the fuck up nigger
you are no longer fooling anyone
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I'm in the Proud Boys and a few other softer groups but we kick it with IE, especially in the PNW. Good dudes.
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>>134170644
he's right, only amerimutts are this obsessed with """europeaness"""
everyone in europe either celebrates their own culture or they're massive self haters, no one identifies as a "european".
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>>134167901
Why?
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Holy fuck, OP here I'm suprised this thread is still up.
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>>134158621
92!
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>>134171470
Yeah I was posting in here last night I'm surprised it's still up also
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All we need is a group of men who form a kind of social network that allows each member to benefit from each other. Train MMA together, lift weights, read books, practice public speaking (underrated in these circles). Form a kind of connection, secret society style. Pull strings for each other.

For example, a dentist is a member? His services are free for fellow members. One member owns a supplement company? Free supplements for the others.

You can only get in if you have a unique value proposition for the rest of the group. This ensures the group stays small, but high level and elitist. Get in a positive, upward spiral of favors for favors and rise up the ranks of society/academia. This is how you ACTUALLY get change. Not by walking down the street with a flag and banner.
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>>134171639
I was hopping on so I can read all the replies then when I saw that the thread was still available I was shocked.
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>>134171847
>This is how you ACTUALLY get change. Not by walking down the street with a flag and banner.
Except for when gay people of any left wing thing does it, then banner waving is fine. I think its time you admitted that being loud and populist is better than being elitist
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>>134171847
that's literally freemasons, kek
it doesn't sound so hard, but why hasn't anybody done it yet?
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>>134129334
It's fucking retarded because you don't even have a national identity
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>>134172015
It works only because society is moving leftward anyway. A society intolerant of gays wouldn't have a gay pride parade in the first place, for example.

The modus operandi of traditional conservatism has always been to simply protest the next progressive agenda point, and then give up the fight once the progressive cause has been won.

For example, the discussion of women's suffrage. Conservatives fought tooth and nail to keep women from voting, but they lost that fight. From then on, no conservative would seriously consider taking the vote back from women. That's why you sometimes here people say "conservatism is progressivism with a speed limit." Protesting leftist causes simply does not work, because society is always moving left (the process of degeneration) and conservatives are forced to comply or fade into obscurity.

Ride the tiger, and stuff.
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Difference between daily stormer and storm front?
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>>134135446
Don't even care any more. We've got nothing left to lose.

>>134129466
Congratulations bro. Stay safe.
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>>134172094
I'm sure it's being done all the time, but if it's done right you would never know. Any people with a strong in-group preference do stuff like this. You're on /pol/, I'm sure you can think of at least ONE (((group))).

The thing is you need a strong basis that binds the in-group together. The classic example is nepotism with family members, or even family companies. Because of the need for this basis, I proposed the group does stuff together like read the same books, and train martial arts. You need both the bond and the willingness to do favors for the concept to work, but if it does, you can theoretically become unstoppable.
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>>134172298
traditional conservatism is fucking gay.

Society is moving leftwards because the fundamental values that the west has lines up with christian slave morality, which essentially boils down to "treat others how you would wish to be treated". This is the basis for leftist thought, and nobody rejects that, (there are in fact other moralities). The lack of rejection allows the idea to become unchallenged, and then when taught to the kids, the kids will pick it up. The kids will notice the contradictions in the previous generations philosophy (i.e when people dont treat others how they wish to be treated despite professing it as the best way to live) and will seek to further this. This creates the appearance of a constant left wing progress, when in reality it is purely due to lack of ideological consciousness and moderate conservatives lack of resistance. Conservatives like to stay under the radar as a result, and protest silently, this means that in public discourse the left wing option always seems stronger (see shy tory effect). So your own lack of violent and radical resistance is what is propelling society towards "degeneracy", and you are proposing to avoid radical resistance to avoid it. Noice
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>>134172793
Except degeneration has been observed in every civilization that stayed around long enough to feel its effects, even the non-Christian ones. The most famous example is pagan Rome, long before it became christianized.

If anything, Christian civilizations are by far the most successful ones. The Ancien Regime, for example, survived as a model for around 1000 years, long past the average expiration date of empires which is 250 years.

The real driving force behind degeneration is not Christian values but democratization of power. The more power is concentrated, the less degenerate a society tends to be. Look at traditional monarchies or dictatorships. In short, the problem is democracy.

At any rate, that's not what this thread is about.
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>>134173250
>Except degeneration has been observed in every civilization that stayed around long enough to feel its effects, even the non-Christian ones.
[citation needed]

>The most famous example is pagan Rome, long before it became christianized.
There was no moral decay in ancient rome, rome decayed due to the conflict between large landowners dependent on slaves on vast plantations and the poor in urban centres. The idea of a citizen soldier died with the resources afforded by the empire and the resources required to maintain it. No moral decay required for collapse

>The Ancien Regime, for example, survived as a model for around 1000 years,
The ancient regime is just another monarchy, no different to any other monarchy except for that it was neither flexible like the british monarchy, nor clever like the prussian one, so the ancien regime collapsed under its own stagnant weight. No moral system upheld the monarchy and so no moral system could save it.

>The more power is concentrated, the less degenerate a society tends to be.
Except that your example given earlier of rome and the ancien regime (which all collapsed) are perfect examples of the failures of concentrated power.

>In short, the problem is democracy
Democracy is a problem, but not the main one, that lies will slave morality upheld by weak conservatives too terrified to reject it openly.
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>>134172793
>"treat others how you would wish to be treated". This is the basis for leftist thought, and nobody rejects that

LOOOOOOOL I couldn't even be bothered to read past that cancer
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>>134173791
>LOOOOOOOL I couldn't even be bothered to read past that cancer
It is tho. Everything can be reduced to that
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>>134172376
Daily stormer has been around since 2013 and is pretty much a news site storm front is a forum that's been around since the 90s or maybe the early 00s
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Just applied. Hopefully I'll get in since I'm not an autistic sperg, fat, or non-Euro-blooded. Thanks for the info OP and those who stuck around to answer questions.
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All this shit tier trolling
>you are LARPing
>you are not LARPing enough
>you are too strict
>lel every loser can join lmao
>you are not European lel
>any other strawman, shit argument or gay trolling
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>>134174534
Have you joined Nordfront Norgebro?
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>>134174649
No, I am not even Norwegian. Although I have already contacted a group member from Nationalist group in my home country. Will probably join.
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>>134174825
Good to hear. Is Norway as bad as it is memed to be? I really hope to visit Scandinavia when I'm a a little more settled in life but I'm worried about going only to be disappointed and angered by the influx of non westerners
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>>134175024
Oslo is filled with shitskins and actual Norwegians hate that city. Probably better to avoid it. Trondheim is kinda nice although I have been there only once.
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>>134159527
You constantly turn my words around.

Several times now I have said IE does have codes to follow, you turn my words around to say that most members sound overweight (which is a very small minority, maybe less than 10 at most)

I said twice now that it is hierarchical , there are roles that I won't go into detail since you aren't a member.

IE has absolute quality members, anyone who would question that is immediately investigaed and kicked out.
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>>134129334
>mfw americans think they are somehow europeans, even though they have never left their country

Almonds activated
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mostly college aged kids, Im slightly older than that but still under 30
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Godspeed brothers.
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>>134159527
It's a fraternal organization in the broad sense. IE has never tried to give the impression it's a male only club.

Women can be members but they're not involved in leadership. They also have their own separate women's forum within the organization that focuses on women stuff.
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>>134180547
>European is a geographic term
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>>134171069
That's because Jews have stolen the American identity and changed the definition to mean any person that lives in America rather than a distinct group. So of course white people (aka European Americans) will want to identify themselves by something that makes them separate from non whites. This will eventually happy to western European countries as more non whites will be imported and they will take your identity (somalians being considered as real swedes)
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>>134183765
*Eventually happen
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>>134180547
>be European
>immigrate to Africa
>become a nigger

>be a nigger
>come to Europe
>become European
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>>134129334
Identity Europa is awesome.
It's burger version of Generation Identity.
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