You told me it was just mental illness

The truth will not be buried.

Where are haters to tell me I'm a mad freak?

>>134124659
but your fag ass will

>>134124898
Are you drinking the water?

>>134124898
It's not just the frogs.

>>134124897
Here, but im tired, you mad freak

>>134125387
Beware is people telling you to stay hydrated and recommending H2O.
Drink juice or Coke or something else, but not tap water.

>>134125809
And don't drink tea or covfefe or other drinks made with tap water.

>>134125913

You're SUCH A FAGGOT

>>134125994
Don't drink the water.

It's not a mental illness it is caused by chemicals.

>>134124183

What does pic come from ?

>>134126156
I don't know.
Found it here on /pol/

Where are the "it's a mental illness" crowd.
Where are the Alex Jones hate club?

They can'r handle the truth.

>>134126116

I'm talking about your comments jackass

It's in the water.

>>134127018
Did you watch the video?

WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO

and don't drink the water

>>134124183
Jokes on you, I've drank well water my whole life.

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water turned me gay

>>134124183
>never drink water
>not a tranny
There may be some truth to this

>>134126156
its an original

>>134127852
>well water

So not the water provided by some big company?

>>134128093
Makes sense right?

>>134128000
>tfw no pol nazi bf

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>>134128294
Indeed.

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>>134128372
poor you

People are scared to touch this thread because they have been conditioning you to believe it's a mental condition caused by leftist parents.

The same way the MSM condition you to believe Alex Jones is crazy when he just wants to find out the truth.

I hate having this fetish.

>>134128849
It's not gay if her penis is cute.

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>>134124183
>City water turns people into faggots
>cities are full of faggots

>>134128958
it's not gay because futanari doesn't exist which is why it sucks

>>134124183
it is a combination of factors.

bpa in plastics, xenoestrogens and phytoestrogens in food, jewish subversion, and mental illness all play a role

I blame the lack of pederasty. Some people just need a good dicking, if they dont get it they grow up to be attentionwhoring faggots.

There were always gays just look at ancient Greece

>>134129155
>jewish subversion, and mental illness
Saying shit like this just distracts and makes the whole arguement sound stupid.
see >>134128802

>>134128000
do you wear a cock cage?

>>134129304
>see >>134128802 (You)
Or better still watch the video.
Alex explains it better than I can.

>>134124183
Glad I'm a yokel who drinks filtered well water

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it has nothing to do with bpa and xenoestrogen and chemicals

it has to do with degeneracy and reversal of gender roles over long periods

and the internet opening your eyes to something that you wouldnt think was something that was possible
before

no internet = no examples to say hey look i can be a fukin tranny if i want

>>134129276
The whole idea of "gay and straight" is a modern construction. There is no gay or straight, there is just the masculine and the feminine, penetrating and being penetrated. If you allow yourself to be penetrated you're basically a woman.

>>134124183
>chemicals permanently causing abnormal effect on the brain are not a mental illness
Then what the fuck IS a mental illness, retard? If anything your post just proves that it in fact is a disorder

>>134124183
FYI "muh drinking water" isn't even the primary source, prenatal hormones are, but you wouldn't know that cause you're a degenerate subhuman who would rather watch alex jones than read a scientific journal.

>>134129669
This. Didn't really "become gay" until I realised there are feminine submissive men out there who just wants to get fucked and please your dick. The fact that some(or all?) Can cum from anal is also very hot.

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lolz deferment excuses to not deal with your own choice.
grow the fuck up deal with your shit.
get your shit together and take it to the shit store or something just dont fuck with it here.

>>134129984
There's nothing more masculine than fucking a man, making him submit to your power, making him be as a woman.

>>134129767
>effect on the brain
It effects the whole damn body you retard.
If you had watched the video you would know that.

I fucking hate this place. Nobody is willing to listen the reasoned arguments they just bring out the same tired old lines even when they don't apply.

>>134124183
>being a sodomite
Hell is for ever!

>>134129767
A mental illness technically is a chronic affliction of the mind that is causing a negative impact on a person's life.

>>134130277
So let's poison the watered and send more people to hell.

Good plan, Burgerbro,

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>>134130177
this is the most tired faggotry rationalization in existence

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>>134124183
It is, but it's a combination of things: lack of physical activity, MSG, corn syrup, estrogen in water, and all sorts of things. It permanently changes brain chemistry, voice pitch, (I whine and complain all the time which annoys my friends and actually annoys me too but I can't help it), facial features (which look smaller and more female looking) and body shape. It explains why so many young males are full-blown effeminate fags desu. I don't even take hormones, and I've always been insecure about it.

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>>134124183
TRAPS AREN'T GAY ANON

>>134124183
Trans is a biological disorder that's always been around. Native Americans used to call them the third gender, or two spirits or some shit.

>>134130532
so much reading. I just want to make a cute boy cum

>>134130719
what is that pic?

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>>134125387

I only drink water bottled in glass and imported from Europe or Georgia, faggot

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>>134124183
>probably in your drinking water right now

>/pol/ is completely unaware of what the shower water has done to them

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>>134130719
blaming it on the chemicals is a way to take away responsibility

hurr the chemicals did this not realizing people were fucking gay faggots back when god destroyed sodom and gommorah

Jude 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.


its obviously their own inner faggotry quest due to degeneracy

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>>134128372
>>tfw no pol nazi bf

>>134128643
can you poast your bare feet pls

>>134130913
come the fuck on I need to bathe

>>134124897
Post feminine penis.

Gay frogs

Air force chemical warfare gay bomb let off over san francisco in the 60's (there are vets on the other side of the world who know about this)

Motherfucking fluoride in your motherfucking water.

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why has no one killed this faggot yet

>>134130866
That is some of the gayest water I have ever seen.

>>134130932
>take away responsibility
From being poisoned? What is wrong with American morals that people are blamed when industry is poisoning them?

>>134131087
It's not feminine.
Hairy and veiny.

>>134130857
It's my ass. I literally can put on makeup and look like a chick. kek

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>>134131283
romans- gay as fuck more rampant than today - no xenoestrogens/chemicals in their food and water

argument forever invalidated

its not the chemicals

its people

>>134124183
holy shit I'm ordering a water filter right now

>>134124183
Being male is incredibly difficult in this day and age, look at male suicide rates.

Lots of them are turning into trannys to coast through life as a 'woman' instead of facing up the the harsh realities of manhood.

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>>134131854
males are part of the problem too though theres people out there showering women with attention and money the thirst of men

thirsty men are worse than women

truly the cause of all the problems

women wouldnt have an advantage if men didnt prop them up

>>134124183
>The trans-epidemic is cause by chemicals probably in your drinking water
Also in your food, and the products you put on your skin. Showering in tap water also absorbs chemicals, but whole house filtration is a bit involved and expensive. Also, lack of exercise and constant ingestion of electric jew. Cumulative genetic damage due to previous factors passed along. De-evolution through applied dysgenics.

>>134131621
>more rampant than today
How many trannies did they have? More than today?
>no xenoestrogens/chemicals in their food and water
What is sugar of lead? Romans were the most chemically advanced nation of their time.


Get back to me went you know what you're talking about.

>>134129629
>it has nothing to do with bpa and xenoestrogen and chemicals
Hormones and chemicals that effect them do not effect sexuality. Testosterone what? Estrogen huh? Biology knowledge level: feminist tranny grade.

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>>134132092
they had "fem boys" and cross dressers im sure but it was literally impossible to become trans because they didnt have estrogen pills, retard

>lead

oh ya it was all that lead turning them gay!

pretty sure even countries like america used to use lead in shit

>>134130245
>It effects the whole damn body you retard.
Which includes the brain. Physical disruption/damage of brain correlates to mental impairment/injury.

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>>134125387

Yeah and I'm not a freak of nature.

Checkmate.

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>>134124183
>Sarkad of Akkad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lAlbpaoAtw

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>>134124183

>>134130769
Intersex is a biological birth defect that's always been around.
Trans is a modern concept, trans are NOT usually intersex, though it's suspected that hormone disruption may have a casual link to the mental disorder.

>>134132282
>includes
Yet there is an actual retard in this thread making out it's all in the mind.

You think ingesting a shit load of chemicals that act like hormones is doing nothing?

>>134132402
Where do you live maybe you water is clean or maybe you have high enough levels of male hormones that your body can resist

I don't know but the shilling against AJ is all part of the plan I think.

>>134131027
>come the fuck on I need to bathe
Yes, but you don't have to use toxic skincare products that kill healthy bacteria and fungus populations on the skin, clearing the way for outbreaks of odor causing bacteria in the aftermath. You don't need to shower hot and scrub everyday, which damages the skin.

>>134132006
Men wouldn't be thirsty and prop women up if we had enforced monogamy via lotto marriage at age 24. Truly the solution to all the problems.

>>134132481
>tfw the most popular ship in that anime is him and the MC

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>>134132282
I can tell you something affected my brain. It's more like a female's, believe me. When I get frustrated, I whine and pout. Also overly dramatic. When you put it all together, body and brain condition, it's clear some type of fuckery is going on. I personally think it depends on what your diet and physical condition is during puberty when the body and brain develops

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>>134132592
all gay people are trannies why do you think they always have that weird way of talking and have like girly hair styles
and act all feminine

so theres records of god destroying entire cities because they were all homos thousands of years ago

so why should i believe you that trannies just had a "hormone disruption "

>>134132763
oh that's what you were referring to
already taken care of

There is more to being intersex than just what is on the outside.

Even so, on the outside, a less noticable intersex trait is a nonypical digit ratio.

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The cure is simple

yes, xenoestrogens from hormone-dosed meat and dairy and the piss of women on The Pill, which are inadequately treated against. this is the same reason female puberty has advanced up from 12 years of age to as low as 9, in many parts of the USA. every couple years there will be some parents group for a hotspot where they're getting 7-8-9 year olds entering puberty who will push it to national awareness, but it's gone with the start of the next bi-weekly news cycle.

there is no fixing it at this point. there will be no 'justice' for it, because it's sincerely questionable if there is any one person or group to blame.

>>134132006
>thirsty men are worse than women

I agree 100%

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>>134132900
ya well if you were isolated by yourself long enough and were determined enough you could start to believe youre a cat and make cat noises

you still made it up

>>134124183
what about ancient times trans people

>drink unfiltered tap water all the time
>not gay in the slightest
Is it a US thing?

>>134125809

Just get a reverse osmosis water filter.

>>134133047
where does this meme come from?

>>134132900
I know that fucking feel
I never asked to be a faggot

and now that I'm estrogen I keep getting faggier and faggier, so I really think hormones just MUST have something to do with this

>>134129629

I always recognize you from your Korean chicas.

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>>134133442
>I never asked to be a faggot

then why did god obliterate them all thousands of years ago

must have been pretty deliberate corruption

>>134133442
You will be dead like most Traps in the next 10 years, if anything it's just natural selection. I'm getting /fit/ and becoming more masculine while retards like you are slowly turning into weak pussies. Feels good mate, hope you kill yourself some day. :3

>>134132481

Stop posting this bullshit. This is why people don't like gays, they force their sexuality on others.

>>134133644
why did God create people to be faggots then if he's going to kill people for it??
I've had cocklust since puberty started, I promise I didn't choose to be like this

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>>134133876
because you didnt like to retain god in your knowledge

Romans 1:27-28
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

>>134133876
Because he didn't create people to be faggots, you moron. People choose to be gay and doing so is defiance against god.

>>134131854
That doesn't stop them from committing suicide, The Trans/Trap suicide rate is even higher then the male one. Anybody that's sane wouldn't pump themselves with hormone blockers and other shit. Unless you want to live the rest of your life as a genetic freak. Today's world needs a new masculine figure, not some feminine retard. Previous Generations did, such as Hulk Hogan or the WWE. Why not make it avaliable for today's world. Woman are cuckhostlers and so are Traps. While men are badass most of the time.

>>134133676
All of us will be dead in ten years so what does it matter?

>>134124183
alex jones is a red-faced carnival barker

>>134133676
I want to be cute and feminine and /fit/
"manning up" doesn't ever work if you truly want to be female in your heart, nearly all trannies try it at some point and it doesn't work

I have tried to kill myself and I do struggle with suicidal thoughts...all I want is to be happy :(

>>134134122
Maybe you will with those constant rapefugees, Hans. I'll be here having a family, just goes to show you that injected harmful shit like hormone blockers into your body won't make you feel any better.

>>134134122
No we won't.

>>134134103
>hate your life
>decide injecting drugs and mutilating yourself will help it
>it just causes more pain
wow who'd a thunk it

>>134124183
>yesterday it was a defective gene
>today it's poisoning of the well
>tomorrow it's [insert pseudo-intellectual tripe here]
Really grasping at straws to keep yourself from suicide, eh?

>>134124183
little bit from column A, little bit from column B. I think though it's just side effects from pesticides, plastics, and women's shitting up the watersupply with all their estrogen

>>134134283
You most certainly will.

>>134134275
>Females
>Happy

They haven't been happy since Feminist started to grow and won't be until the world's economy crashes. drugs and mutilating yourself won't make you happy, it will make you hurt until you start to end your life.

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>>134134064
I still do... but I can't help it. I'm never called a man. I always get called a boy by both girls and guys

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>>134128958

>>134134436
Sure I will.
I'm also going to be a billionaire tomorrow. I said it will happen, so that means it's going to happen, right?
Fuck off with your wishful thinking. Why wait ten years? Just neck yourself right now you disappointing sack of cum.

>>134134530
Fucking anything with a cock and balls makes you a homosexual.

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>>134134275
you cant be happy in this life
we are under a curse the bible says

if you are happy then you are on the path to destruction

Luke 6:24-26
24But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation. 25Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep. 26Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.

>>134134614
No need to get upset. Enjoy your short life as a billionaire.

>>134131621
roman's had men play all the women in their plays. your argument is invalid

>>134134724
I'll enjoy raising a family and living peacefully in the next few decades, kraut.
Jesus, when did Germans get so pathetic?

>>134132900
>I personally think it depends on what your diet and physical condition is during puberty when the body and brain develops
Also what your mother's diet and physical condition during pregnancy. What your grandfather's ate is likely to have some influence on your biology.

>>134134363
that's not what the phrase poisoning the well means you dummy

>>134134450
obviously I don't think all females are magically happy
I've always hated the male features about myself. it's always made me happy when people thought I was female. I've always hated it when girls think I'm cute

I love how estrogen makes me feel, I love how soft my skin is, I love having boobs, I love looking feminine now, I love being able to wear makeup and have it look good and not like a man

a big reason I wasn't afraid to start hormones was that I was very close to killing myself and I knew I was going to so I figured I might as well give hrt a shot...and it's been the best decision I've ever made in my life

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>>134134530
I agree

>>134134749
The Roman Empire was filled with Spaghettiniggers. They got their asses kicked by both Mudselims and Christians. Now Greece and Italy are getting raped by rapefugees since both their countries border Africa and the Middle East.

>>134134978
That's all going to come crashing down when you reach thirty five, That's why you rarely see Trannies live past 50.

>>134132977
>so why should i believe you that trannies just had a "hormone disruption "
They have a mental condition, which can have various causes. The chemical hormone disruption could be involve does not mean it's 'just' hormone disruption. Mammalian reproduction is a complicated system, probably numerous points of failure.

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>>134134909
>What your grandfather's ate

Ok... wat?

>>134133109
>because it's sincerely questionable if there is any one person or group to blame.
Yup, I agree, it's definitely the Jews.

>>134134092
why the absolute fuck would ANYONE choose to be a fag??
can't have children, way smaller dating pool, not fully accepted by society, etc etc

>>134134670
>if you are happy then you are on the path to destruction
guess I'm on the right path then tbqh

>>134135112
>That's all going to come crashing down
still beat the hell out of being a man

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>>134124183
You just made this thread as an excuse to post traps didn't you

>>134135382
>why would anyone choose to be a fag
Because they are mentally ill

>>134135272
>>What your grandfather's ate
>Ok... wat?
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/article/grandparents-diet-could-be-weighty-issue-grandkids
Here’s some bad news for health conscious people. If their parents and grandparents gorged on unhealthy food, they may face an exaggerated risk of weight gain. That’s the finding of a new mouse study. It’s not yet been confirmed that the same is true in people. But it was a concern over human risks that prompted the new study.

(Exodus 34:6-7)--"Then the Lord passed by in front of him and proclaimed, "The Lord, the Lord God, compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in lovingkindness and truth; 7who keeps lovingkindness for thousands, who forgives iniquity, transgression and sin; yet He will by no means leave the guilty unpunished, visiting the iniquity of fathers on the children and on the grandchildren to the third and fourth generations."

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>>134135382
god saves the despairing

what happens when you become a girl and get everything you ever wanted and living the life and showered in love and support

you lose your soul

Mark 8:36
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?

>>134135382
>why the absolute fuck would ANYONE choose to be a fag??
Because it's easy to get a fag to suck yer cock. Women not as much so.

>>134124183
>get water from well
how are they sneaking it in, man?

>>134124183
Futanari isn't gay though

>tfw when 4chan got me into trannys

>>134135718
Oh, well it's really difficult for me to gain weight though. That's part of the problem. If I do start consuming a lot of calories which I've done before, I gain weight in my stomach, arms, face and legs like a chick, and I even got carded once and the lady said I looked really young and would probably look good when I got older. I basically end up looking like a butch lesbian or something if I gain weight

>>134134530
I have a sneaking suspicion the rise in these two genres popularity is due to the way porn is shot, and how the sexual excitement is always brought about by dead center shots of a dick and pussy. Conditioning one too only be responsive to instances where both male and female genitalia are present and leading to a natural inclination to find the merger of the transexual to be appealing.

>>134124183

Thanks for the pics bby.

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>>134137252
He/she is so pretty though - Asians are the cutest... but no, it's not caused by anime. That's too simplistic. I don't watch anime.

>>134135783
>when you become a girl and get everything you ever wanted and living the life and showered in love and support
literally the o p p o s i t e of what happened with my family
at best they tolerate me, my sister is the only one ok with it

>>134135822
I don't even like it when people touch my penis
it just feels numb and gross when they do

>>134137753
/pol/ truly is the new /b/, thanks to Reddit and Moot's raid.

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>>134137649
ive heard that a lot of people actually do end up being happier "than ever before" after transitioning

to me thats a bad thing
its a sexually perverted thing to do

its selling out just like ive been offered to take anti depressants my whole life but i dont believe in that

you dont put chemicals to manipulate your brain period

you go out of this life with dignity

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>>134130913

>tfw the log knows

>>134137970
So cute, Thx Dixie Bro

>>134124183
Why do you retards fail to understand that this has nothing to do with biology, these freaks are crawling out of the woodwork because it's more publicly acceptable and in some cases for attention

f*cking gamergate

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>>134137970
Yes... I've seen him/her before.......... He/she obviously takes HRT though

>>134138397

Same with this one

>>134138338
>whitecouple.webm

Are you black?

>>134128958
what are the criteria for a cute benis

>>134138338
Damn, this trap looks better than most teen porn stars

>>134138338
>Same with this one

Oops. Meant for that.

>>134130866
Me too! Fuck fluroide and other shit.

>>134138498
Probably muslim and eternally buttdevasted.

>>134138149
it feels more right for me to have the sexual role of a woman...I don't understand how that is perverted

I guess I don't know what to say, I love estrogen and (almost) everything its done to my body and mind. I don't see a reason I should deny myself this and go back to misery

>>134138693
Hang yourself you fucking science project.

>>134124183

Fuck man, I hate being so fucked up inside.

I've always been a sensitive guy, but I've also been pretty good with girls.
at some point a few years ago, I would sometimes have dreams I was a girl, and when I'd get drunk I'd see somebody like Audrey Hepburn and wish I was her. I try to ignore it, but those feelings have become a lot stronger

At the same time, I work out, I meditate, haven't been laid in a while but know a girl that's dtf, and seeing my baby half-brother really made me think about getting married and having kids.

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>>134129276
dont go too far away ,look at ancient turkey

>>134138454
is that pic you (on the far right)?
T is gonna masculinize you if you don't take hormones desu...

>>134124183
Alex knows many things. Unfortunately, his raw super male vitality makes it hard for leftists to listen. They discriminate against masculinity now. In case you didn't know.

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>>134137252
>>134137970

good thing I only drink soda, fuck you fags

It's more about people not feeling like they fit in for any variety of reasons, such as autism. They think being trans is the answer and they can get a lot of support. Whereas weird people who aren't trans can be demonized and bullied.

>>134124183
Its true you know
all of it

>>134138917

Yeah it is, but I'm not gonna change much at this point. I might just stay a little feminine dude. Only thing that stops me from taking HRT is going sterile.

>>134138863
Get a water filter or start buying filtered water.
I'd also suggest buying some super male vitality and avoiding soy.
You're gonna be ok nigga, I'm not giving up on you.
We're all in this together against the globalists.
Also some x2 and anthroplex might help as well as the cave man true paleo bone broth.

>>134138769
:(

>>134138863
girls like feminine guys honestly
there's nothing wrong with being a somewhat feminine guy

>>134138887
Why are they wearing Jew hats?

I bet the Arabic text explains,

>>134139281
>Girls like Feminine guys

Maybe teenagers, but women that are 18+ love fucking Chad like guys. No matter how tall they are. Because women like to be dominated and not having to deal with sitting in the same room with some feminine wiredo.

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>>134138693
>go back to misery

i told you dude i warned you

you becoming happier and fulfilled is the opposite of despairing >>134135783

you do not want to find your life its a dangerous path

Matthew 10:39
He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

>>134124183
OP is a frog.

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>>134139511
Yeah, that's true, but some can't help it. I have no desire to be in the dominant role with a chick... it just feels weird

>>134139206
real talk, you can only stay a physically feminine guy for so long...testosterone will masculinize you at some point before you're 30
it's true though there is no way to take hrt and remain fertile

your body will still keep changing I can pretty much promise you, with estrogen or without it

>>134139689
>testosterone will masculinize you at some point before you're 30

Not true really if you stay skinny and wear makeup. I met a guy who I thought was in his in early 20s. He was in his early 30s. But again, I don't want to go sterile, so HRT doesn't matter to me.

>>134124183
I am very turned on by girls with dicks. But I'm turned on more by girls. I'm married and will have beautiful white children. But sometimes I got to let her get the strap on and fuck me.

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moar filters..... you tards....
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>>134138261
>tfw I only just discovered Twin Peaks

How did this gem stay off my radar for so long?

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i could have become a happy successful person 10 years ago (here just take this anti depressant pill)

id rather die than sell out and lose my soul

becoming a transgender is another form of that

not very successful/happy as a man so you become a women to conform to the world system and demands

deserving no respect thereby

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>>134140080
cause you a millennial nog

>>134139688
Bro I was the same way. But then I realized when I really tried to be in a dominate role it's amazing. But god dam do I still love to be dominated.

>>134140230
I've never watched a network television show all the way through though.

>>134139511
dunno what it is then m8, maybe they're just more comfortable to show clear interest in me because I look like a fag who will never act on anything like that (which is true)

nothing to me is hotter than a dominant man, I want a big strong Chad to show me who's boss

>>134139548
how miserable is your life if you actively TRY to not be happy??
like dude hopefully that book written by ancient sand people was right or you'll have wasted your whole life being sad because some jews told you to

>>134124183
It's all the soy and plastics.

>>134140191
you know estrogen and testosterone exists in every healthy human
its just changing the levels of it

how does this make you lose your soul?
do you really think the thought process is "gosh i'm unhappy, how can I change that...oh I know, become a woman!"

>>134139831
donating sperm is a thing

but if you're OK not taking hormones, its always better not to

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>>134140547
i mean its what jesus christ said man appointed mortal sorrow the blessed god shall come down and save the despairing

those who laugh now will mourn and weep

it has to do with the fact that some people think theyre just going to get away with their free pass and live happily on earth ,NOT SO.


Luke 16:25
But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.


its actually a righteous principle and i would believe in this even if i had no god

>>134140893
dont give me that shit i know what trannies get the attention and they do porn so they can be lusted after

its not hidden

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>>134140331
Putting on makeup, dressing cute, being skinny and looking like a girl or almost like a girl and sucking a really manly guy's dick with a girl is SO hot to me... I can't really go back

>pic related Blaire White before surgeries which are gonna make him/her look weird in a few years

>>134135556
What a pleb. If you could recognize the artist, OP's pic is a futanari (vag+penis) and not a tranny/shemale.

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The chems are not making men trans, directly. The chems are pacifying them, and turning then into emotional pussies, and transgenderism is a sympton that the more extreme embrace. This is truly the traits of the numale, a sissy who submits to any authoritive figure, and will never be responsible and accountable, nor will they be logical and innovative.

The water filter merchant is right about the trans issue, too. Birth control pills were a mistake

http://m.ncregister.com/daily-news/birth-control-in-drinking-water-a-fertility-catastrophe-in-the-making#.WW7D4oGRXqA

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>>134141559
already refuted by the fact that there was tons of gay people in ancient societies

>>134141210
thats blaire before surgery
she's getting facial feminization surgery before 2017 ends...no reason to lie about not getting surgery the first time then announce to everyone you're getting surgery

>Putting on makeup, dressing cute, being skinny and looking like a girl or almost like a girl and sucking a really manly guy's dick with a girl is SO hot to me... I can't really go back
iktf :(
its so much better than being with a girl
I just wish I was normal :(

>>134141157
it was killing me to live as a man
I hated dressing as a man
I hated that everyone thought I was a man
I could go on

expressing my femininity rather than hiding it as a dark secret is such an amazing indescribable change
calling injecting estrogen "evil" is something that seems very silly to me
im not hurting anyone
is being obese "evil"?

>>134141674
>refuted
No you didn't. Maybe if you had accurate numbers, but you don't, only claims with no evidence.

Did you look up sugar of lead yet?

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>>134141559
Of course. It's literally affecting the way young males look. It's disrupting puberty and changing them biologically by pushing their thought processes, faces and bodies toward the feminine side.

How is this thread still up lmao

>>134128513

HIDEYOSHI?

>>134141765
>im not hurting anyone
Yourself? You're a person.
A mentally ill person is still a person.
If you don't fix your brain you've got about a 40% chance of eventually killing yourself.

>>134142242
>40% chance of eventually killing yourself.

I just wanna say this before I go... the reason they might want to kill themselves is because you keep saying that. If you tell someone something enough, don't be surprised if they do it. Of course, you would want that to happen, so it makes sense.

>>134142242
all I've ever wanted is to fix my brain
its a lot easier than fixing my body
I just want to be happy, I just want to feel OK at night

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>>134141765
embracing my inner love of children is such an amazing change i can finally express my true feelings i was hiding it feels incredible to be able to have sex with kids

im not hurting anyone if the 5 year old says its ok right i can have sex with my daughter as long as i dont hurt her

>>134142523
>embracing my inner love of children

so, aside from being a science project you are also a pedo, wew ..

>>134128643
plz no bully fag-chan ;-;

>>134142523
I probably shouldn't even give this a (you) because as you typed it I'm sure you thought of how stupid an argument that was but still decided to hit post anyway

>>134142395
Yes, it's everyone's fault except for the mentally ill individual with the incredibly severe identity disorder.
>>134142510
Then be yourself. You dont' need hormones or whatever, you're not a fucking woman. You're an extremely feminine man. The more you obsess over gender the more likely you are to hurt yourself whether that be from SRS surgery, drugs, too much butt sex and the like.

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>tfw I had a dream where I was about to fuck a trap's boipucci then I woke up

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sarlaccs reaching puberty increasingly sooner (~16yrs in c.1850 vs. ~9yrs today)
>literally a genealogical path to extinctions
>traps fill sex / relationship void, with an improved, tailored model
>baby factories take care of unwieldy procreation

Do kissing cousin /pol/tards even evolution...??

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>>134142710
naw the point was just because something feels good to you doesnt mean its something you embrace

>>134142857
you want to obtain glory and puff yourself up

makeup is an inherent act of worshipping yourself and attracting lust to yourself

all inherently evil trait a humble man would go oout of his way to not bring attention to himself

>>134124183
RIP, shrimp.

>>134133415
he's some larping viking dude who killed his best friend, hates western culture and lives on gibs in some baltic country

>>134143147
Is that true? 9 years? I mean I know you're wrong about 16, it was like 12-13 in the bronze age but 9? that means the human race got so much dumber that the process of going from infancy to puberty shorted by 25%.
In mammals you can gauge intelligence by this metric.
For example if it takes about a year.....you got a retarded mammal.
If it takes 10 years......you have a very smart mammal.

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>>134143018
Feels bad, man...

>>134133644
Naw, man. There was at least one story I can remember from the bible where God instructs someone to wipe out everyone in a city and they don't kill everyone. From that point onward, because of that person's hubris and failure to follow God's instructions it was just an eventuality until the "Well of Humanity" was poisoned.

>>134133676
>implying Im not getting /fit/ and getting guns to protect my trap from notrap fags like you

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discord gg WbDVqFr

>>134142860
butt sex is currently the only way I can have sex
I do want a vagina, but I'm too scared of the surgery to get one

you're right though, in the end I only am an extremely feminine man. I don't hate myself for being one...but I love that my boobs keep getting bigger. I love how I smell now. I love my girly hair. I love how different my face looks in the mirror. I couldn't care less that my penis is half-broken

none of this is even a gender obsession, but I understand why you'd say that. I think about it at little as possible
I love waking up feeling like a woman. I love dressing like a woman. I love wearing makeup. I could go on and on and on

the physical and mental changes estrogen gives isn't something I have to be TOLD to like, I just fucking love them. I wish I was born female (but you are right, i'm not a woman). I was raised conservative, still am conservative. obviously more lolbertarian than my parents, but not too far off

>>134143191
I wear light mascara, thats it
not even a full face
and I wear it because it makes me feel pretty and look pretty, it makes my eyes pop more than the estrogen alone has and it gives me self-confidence

guys can't even tell I'm wearing it because they don't even know what makeup looks like

>>134143191
I will tell you the truth, you are ill but be it mentally or physiologicaly, you are.

If you have been born with the chemicals in your brain and body not working properly, forcing you to do hormones to turn trans, you are ill.

If you wanted to become a girl just because you were gay or something you are also ill.

By all means, you are an ill person, don't try to make it so it doesn't hurt you, accept your reality, in any way and form, you are ill.

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>>134143557
>and I wear it because it makes me feel pretty and look pretty

exactly

trying to look pretty is not humility its the opposite its pride and trying to be worshipped

"pls look at my face and pls lust after me"


Matthew 5:28-29
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. 29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.


thereby not deserving respect

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>>134143360
>16
>I know you're about 16
https://www.sciencealert.com/girls-are-going-through-puberty-earlier-than-ever-before-with-long-term-effects

"Age of consent" is arbitrary and forever in-flux.
Science is a constant.
Evolution adapts.
©ommon ©ore will not help one 'do the math'.

>>134143557
Whatever works for you I guess, be wary though, that can be a slippery slope according to the numbers. Plus you sound a little off to me as an outsider with no reason to lie. Particularly the part about your penis. If I was taking a substance that made me feel good but broke my dick, I'd stop taking it.
I'd seriously consider whether or not you're crazy. There's almost no way to know for sure if you are or aren't but if you do happen to decide you're crazy, don't go crazier as a reaction, that's probably a thing.
Also buy a water filter.

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>>134143950
>Dem Matrix specs
Literally, red-pill'd.

>>134143875
Who gives a fuck what The Bible says. I don't get my wisdom from goat herders.

>>134124183
Ummm.... so maybe it's something that happens to a baby exposed to chemicals in utero? Should we just embrace it then?

Probably not.

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trannies are good
jsut no bathroom rights
get in those dresses n get those fat titties pluggin in and suck some cock tgirls!!
no commy whiny money stealing using lawyer liek democrats
lwoer gov spending 99% and regs 99.99%

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>>134144440
its true regardless of the bible

a person putting on makeup is an evil intention and bad motivations

you want to put your life ahead of someone else life and gain from it

wheras if you went out without makeup you might not get as much benefits in life

and willfully living like that is an admirable thing where you dont bring attention to yourself

most people on planet earth dont have that in them

atleast 95% of women wear makeup if theyre in their younger years


not even one humble righteous

>>134128093
>never drink water
>now just a diabetic tranny
abstract feels man

>>134144874
>you want to put your life ahead of someone else life and gain from it
>Capitalism and meritocracy are evil
Ok you can fuck right back off to the desert you filthy christcuck.

>>134144440
/thread

>>134143875
capitalism lets the rest of us ignore bizarre mental cases who believe in sky wizards

humans are here from aliens who then went off n died in galactic wars

>>134144220
imagine you had a vagina and guys kept hitting on you and nothing else in your life was changed
and whenever you kissed guys and made out for a little they'd always touch your vagina
it'd probably feel kind of gross right??

I appreciate what you're saying because you seem genuinely concerned, but psychologically me losing my dick is not the same as you losing yours

less relevantly, touching my nipples feels fucking amazing now, like fucking A-MA-ZING, so im not losing out on net sexual pleasure here

>>134144874
>>134143875
>a person putting on makeup is an evil intention and bad motivations
>posts 1,000 girls with makeup
anon, I...

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>>134143557
From someone with over a decade of trap experience, after taking the "red pill" and "upgrading" to traps -- someone who is wholly uncücked by inculcated prejudice or tribalism -- you are NOT "mentally ill".

The "illness" is how (mostly burger) puritans reconcile something they inherently find attractive (i.e., the perfect sex-relationship amalgam for males) and the daddy/pedo-priest-beat-in homophobia.

The only thing you suffer from is a gender 'mismatch' brought on by evolution responding to the natural phasing-out of the weaker sex.

Females were only required while the urge of sex was the only impetus to for reproduction. As man has evolved and procreation became understood as a utilitarian necessity for survival, females purpose was more and more diminished. Eventually, science will handle procreation -- nay the incidental mating rituals of humans.

This is also why you're seeing the push-back effect of feminism, females' demands for "equality" et al. -- they innately sense the end of their 'line'. While males resent females more and more -- attributing it to "degeneracy etc. -- when it's because the male-female schism is simply widening--in accordance with said evolutionary process.

Traps: The future is now.

>>134124183
This is only slightly related to the OP and the topic.

How much of the current mental state of American men do you guys think hard ADHD meds of the 90s are attributed to?

Frankly, I think 90s adhd medications like Ritalon, which were basically hard psychotropic drugs disguised as harmless behavioral correction meds, are to blame for an entire generation of beta nu males, basement dwellers, and neckbeard hipsters.

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>>134145615
when i see sica adorning and flaunting herself it makes me feel like i want to kill some people and rip her face off

i live in pain

this world is not good

>>134145727
This.
Based aussie traplover strikes again.
Hopefully we'll someday have our favourite femboys to fuck whilst our artificial wombs are up and running.

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>>134125809
my therapist says to drink lots of water...
I'm switching to beer

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>>134145615
how about I imagine fucking a hot blonde with big tits from behind as all the jews and niggerers are getting gassed?

>>134146568
Beer is not good either.
Made with water.

>>134145615
I get that part in the abstract...as far as it's possible to get without actually have that mentality. But I've also heard about people who want to have their legs removed because they don't feel like "their legs". Brains are tricky stuff and I'd like to think I would reign it in. It's impossible for a person to have a total understanding of whether or not they're being objective.
Like right now I might be totally subjective and biased and you might be totally sane. But the opposite might also be true.
I'd just advise extreme caution because once you start taking hormones and really embracing that mind set, it'll be harder to back down from.
Like now, if you changed your mind you've got boobs. You kind of can't. The capacity for self harm in the name of self actualization is there and society seems to be pushing it hard.

>>134146693
ok then I'll drink...bags of sand, happy?

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>>134145988
The mental malaise the U.S. is in, perhaps, the nadir of today, is a product of a myriad factors -- pharmaceutical, nutrition, pollution, social environment, entertainment media, cultural indoctrination, religion... -- working in concert to ravage the human psyche with the tumult we see.

That, and trapsim is very uncommon (*Thailand -- a trap Mecca -- has only ~2M {of 60M} traps) and has nothing to with the cognitive degeneration of the U.S.. Traps are simply another scapegoat for those who seek easy answers to complex problems... And with burgers being the most evangelism-friendly, cure-all elixir craving, messiah supplicating nation on the planet (*see: the neural 'path of least resistance'), it's little its these peoples are as head-fucked as they infamously are.

>>134124183
Does anyone else come to these threads just for the pics?

/pol/ posts better pics than /d/ to be quite honest, mi familia.

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>>134147151
well usa is no1 in everything
so when comfy can be sad?
that what you are saynig poverty boy?

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>>134146693
>beer
>made with water

Yeah... with a splash of BACTERIAL FAECES.

>fermentation lit. = bacteria shit-orgies

>>134145727
thank you anon
this is a very good post
I would like to see someone try to refute this
maybe it should even be in the sticky

it kills me I'm such a degenerate honestly, I just wish i was normal, but I can't change this no matter how hard I try
I love men so much

>>134146774
true, I can't ungrow these boobs
you're definitely right that I might just be completely crazy, obviously you can't judge that yourself, me or you
socially though, the feedback you get does make a big difference
guys didn't use to stare at me like they do now...I don't even think im cute but that doesn't stop them from staring
>The capacity for self harm in the name of self actualization is there and society seems to be pushing it hard.
I guess I agree. but I do think those who don't really want hormones won't take the hormones, because you notice small changes gradually that become BIG changes after taking for an actual year without stopping

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>>134147619
>drag queer faced sarlacc + DDD buoys

Thanks for reënforcing my point.

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>>134148151
hotter women than you had!
:)

>>134124183
Will you go to Heaven when you die? Here’s a quick test: Have you ever lied, stolen, or used God’s name in vain? Jesus said,
“Whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.”
If you have done these things, God sees you as a lying, thieving, blasphemous, adulterer at heart,
and the Bible warns that one day God will punish you in a terrible place called Hell.
But God is not willing that any should perish. Sinners broke God’s Law and Jesus paid their fine.
This means that God can legally dismiss their case:
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
Then Jesus rose from the dead, defeating death. Today, repent and trust Jesus, and God will give you eternal life as a free gift.
Then read the Bible daily and obey it. God will never fail you.

>>134148980
>Then Jesus rose from the dead, defeating death
t. bible
>Then read the Bible daily and obey it. God will never fail you.
t. bible

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>>134148980
heaven is blasting into a 16 year old pussy no condom

>>134124183
Trans people always existed throughout human history. It's the disgunsting sodomite culture that is making them come out.

>>134148980
tfw 2017
tfw anon on 4chan starts directory parroting ray comfort's non-arguments

>>134128958
It doesn't work like that irl. The drawings are cute but they are just manily men in real life.

Why is her vulva so puffy?

>>134151584
t. never been with a twink who wished "he" was she

in future have hoem lipo n tit implant stuff or even find genes that modify body shape and acivate

machincal womb

women can be extermianted along with minorities

>>134128643
cute tranny socks

It began with traps. I didn't really give a shit about women and sex in general until I finally accepted my sexuality and found a boyfriend. We have a lot of sex and I suck his dick twice almost daily and I love it but deep down I know its wrong. If my conservative family finds out they'll propably kill me. Any fags who could save themselves? My bf is pressuring me to come out but I know it will ruin my life. Is it the water? Will it go away if I stop drinking tap water?

>>134124183
'our stolen future' by pete myers. common chemicals pregant women are exposed to cause endocrine disruptions in the fetus, leading to homosexuality and sexual dimorphism. this is not a partisan book

>>134124897
It's true, there are Xenoestrogens in our food and water supplies that have feminized men and accelerated female virility in western society.

But there are also men with high levels of testosterone who are fags, which means it's more of a lifestyle choice.

>>134151744
tfw born too early :(
tfw can't be transplanted a womb :(
tfw can't birth the child of the man I love :(

>>134152301
>Will it go away if I stop drinking tap water?
no
go ahead an try, honestly
being a fag sucks

but if you like sucking dick I don't think a power on this earth can make you STOP liking it

it fucking sucks anon and its very embarrassing, but we were born too early for a cure for cocklust :(

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>>134127018
>comments

>>134124183
All this proves is that the water makes you have a mental illness.

>epidemic
The number of people with gender dysphoria hasn't gone up. It's a matter of people being more comfortable admitting and retarded teens thinking it's trendy. Kind of how every girl was bi in middle School. They'll grow out of it.

https://pastebin.com/yNitU0eR
what do you guys think about this?

>>134151584
yeah i've never seen a 'passing' trans, online or irl

>>134152687
i think i closed out of it because people keep wanting to blame it on outside chemicals
instead of taking responsibility for being degenerate

We will always be with you. Kill us off and "unhappy" mothers will birth more. We have come to teach you something you can't more likely won't see.

Keep your mothers happy.

>>134152767
of course you dummy
how do you spot someone who fully looks like the gender they want to be?? like really
you're showing how silly the perspective is in just this short comment

>>134152955
damn dude I wish we could talk IRL
you shitpost in so many trans threads, this isn't the first I've seen your obvious asain girl posting in one

I really don't understand that you think its a choice?
i've felt incredibly guilty over this my entire life
I was raised christian and it was ingrained in me how shitty I naturally am

...all I've wanted to do is change. I just want to be a normal human. i don't want to be a faggot. I just want to be a normal person

I can't believe you still just say its an issue of taking responsibility...like yeah you dumbshit thats why I've tried to kill myself
I just want to be a normal heterosexual human with normal heterosexual desires

I don't want to be a homo that wants big dudes to fuck him, I don't want to want to be a girl, I just want to be normal

>>134124183
It's not chemical, but rather a learned behavior that often appears in decaying societies unless they take steps to stamp it out.

>>134124183
probably the best redpill on this subject. A synopsis only, I suggest going to him site and
listening further

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4eD3601Sa0

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>>134153606
then dont do anything and die a virgin like im doing

ill never have sexual relations with any race any gender any year all years

my life sucks

youre pissed you dont get to have dudes fucking you

what about someone like me who never even interacts with another person for 10 years let alone a girl

deal with it

outright killing yourself is more respectable than certain routes

imo

>>134154315
don't choose to die a virgin then, anon
it doesn't have to be like this

you are worthy of love, your heart and soul are worthy of physical and emotional love

don't give up

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fuckign a tight ass is same girl or trap

trap probly suck better cock
do dirty stuff esier

>>134144440
Thank you for saying that

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>>134130799
KILL YOURSELF.

>>134139206
disilusion yourself from those lies, you can be normal again if you try hard enough.

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>>134144440
Repent, or burn in hell.

>>134155959
see pic >>134156025

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Yahweh is not real. I want a harem full of lolis and girls with penises.

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>>134156162
At least I know who I am and why I am here, I don't fear the afterlife and I know there will be justice for everyone, we are telling you to get your shit straight because we hve a tiny little bit of empathy, not all criticism is bad, repent.

>>134156476
>we hve a tiny little bit of empathy,
definitely true ITT
im definitely open to both criticism and solutions
I wish there was a solution, believe me all I want is a working solution

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>>134124183
>trans
>never drank anything but water from our personal well under the house
>barely intake processed foods
>no lolsoy

>>134156162
why is what i said wrong? i myself have gotten a few multiple day long periods in the past where i would have the symptoms of gender dysphoria but then was able to disillusion myself from those lies and completely ignore it. im speaking from personal experience and i can say that it works and that the whole idea of gender dysphoria even existing is just some lie thats very likely a jewish one.

I drink lots of tap water and I didnt turn into a cute girl. It's not fair.

>>134156976
oh gosh anon
I wish I could talk to you...disillusioning and ignoring dysphoria isn't the best strategy...

good luck anon, I hope you can find peace

>>134134978
>I love how estrogen makes me feel, I love how soft my skin is, I love having boobs, I love looking feminine now, I love being able to wear makeup and have it look good and not like a man
Same. Sometimes now though I get a real overwhelming urge to be held.

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>>134156762
The solution is there and is not easy, and is not nice, just accept that there's a human nature and that we didn't come just to suffer, there's God that gave us life and this world and that He protects us. The culmination of your life, hell, of everyones life is what we leave when we are gone and that very thing you leave, if you want to be happy, if you want to be free, should be something that nurtures the next generation, that creates a better world for the people that will be there when we are gone. This is not a purposeless shithole in the middle of hell, fuck that notion. We are free to choose the best for ourselves and the future of mankind, don't lose hope!

>>134157257
>Sometimes now though I get a real overwhelming urge to be held.
lol of course :)
welcome to estrogen

>>134157452
>we didn't come just to suffer
>should be something that nurtures the next generation
>We are free to choose the best for ourselves and the future of mankind
I definitely like all of what you said
though really, is the only way to achieve all this by having my own biological children?
can't literally all of what you said be applied to raising a child in a two-parent home with the kid's best interests in mind?

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"Feminine" refers not just to literal females but to anything that possesses or is imagined to possess stereotypically female qualities; a man can be feminine or strike a feminine pose. Various cultures attribute "femininity" to obviously genderless features of the natural world, like the moon or the soil (the ancient Chinese identified the ground as feminine with a masculine sky above). There are feminine rhymes in poetry. If an abstract linguistic pattern can be feminine, why not a penis?
A feminine penis is soft, small, and cute. But the thing you notice most is how non-threatening and friendly it is. Every time it rises in greeting because it's happy to see you despite it not even having the vigor to go up the whole way anymore always puts a smile on your face. That earnest joy and pleasure it shows when you're around lets you know the girl really is in to you, too. With how lovable and inviting it is, you'll find that it quickly becomes your best friend in the whole world. For example, a slender, smooth penis, contrasted with a blunt and veiny member. A graceful penis. A receptive penis that does not aggressively penetrate but rather allows itself to be engulfed. And isn't dribbling semen reminiscent of a breast's warm milk? A nurturing penis, a penis like a doting mother.

How can it be gay?

>>134124183
Tranny, illegal immigrant, BLM, and muslim numbers are soaring thanks to Democrats wanting them for easy retard votes. It's that fucking simple.
Otherwise, no one would be pushing any of this nonsense.

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>>134124183
no one will probably read this, but i feel like it could be important to study in the future.

I am a (natural) bodybuilder and powerlifter, who cycles caloric surplus and deficit depending on the time of year and whether there is a competition coming up.

I have noticed almost 3 years in a row, every single time I get on a low enough deficit I start doing gay shit.

It starts off by watching BBC porn. that's how I know it's coming.
Then slowly I fap to stranger dominatrix stuff. within a week i'm fapping to traps and within 2 weeks I am wearing lingerie and fucking my ass with a dildo.

I do not know why it is like this, but 3 years in a row I have been completely straight until i start dropping calories for about 12 weeks 2 times a year.

I know for a FACT, this transgender phenomenon is linked to testosterone levels and I know for a fact mercury and fluoride mess with the hormones.

thanks for reading.

>>134157207
>disillusioning and ignoring dysphoria isn't the best strategy
but why? also gender dysphoria isnt even a real thing. the people who claim to have it are confused and have simply fallen for jewish lies saying that their state of confusion and having an unrealistic desire is permanent.

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>>134157827
As >>134130532 exposed, things are not that easy, nature is wise and when you're raising kid you shouldn't risk certain factors, if you think you'll ever change, think about other ways to chieve happiness and fulfillment that avoid hurting others, specially children. They need a nuclear family, this is evident.

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>>134158161
there should be studies about certain chemicals interfering with sexual behaviour, but it doesn't fit (((their agenda)))

Maybe I should use the money I spend on tranny hookers this month, on one of those water filter systems instead.

>>134158146
go ahead and look up the number of trans people in america then decide if it could possibly be worth any effort

>>134158161
wew
if you really think being skinny with lost test makes you want to be a tranny, idk

I wish we could talk further about this

>>134158387
not really sure what 'not real' means here
I feel like you keep saying the jewish thing as a meme so I'm not sure how seriously to take this

>>134158563
>They need a nuclear family
no shit I'd never raise a kid out of a two-parent household

I'd almost be insulted at the 'think you'll ever change' part but its just so absurd it makes me wonder if you've ever heard anything a trans person has to say about their gender

>>134158161
>am a (natural) bodybuilder and powerlifter
You were a fag from the beginning.

>>134158999
100% this

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>>134158903
Eh, my brother is gay and I know a thing or two about roles in a family. We were raised by myself, mother was always gone, and we didn't see dad more than twice a month, that shit destroys your life. A kid needs it's mother and strong father, or father figure, or he/she will suffer a lot down the road. Insecurities, suicide attempts, child buse, I've seen it all. It won't define me, but it shouldn't have happened to us when we were children.

>>134158903
assuming that i am being honest how "serious" do you believe this to be?