The Old Man

I don't know my dad and neither does my kid. Life is a cycle. Everyone dies.

Him: 28, African American, 60k, food services

Me: 18, white, 22k in bank, food services

My son: 4, white, 13k in reddit karma, baby

>>134104523
You can't know your father, but he knows you more than you think, as do you your child I would imagine. Life is a cycle and we die for a reason, to make room for our children, in the hopes they can be better people, something every good father will come to understand one day. What matters is what you are taught and what you teach.

>>134104896
Oh this is quality, watch the summerfags pile up (You)s you sneaky fuck

>>134104523
nigger

>>134105400
I'm more white than you, hick.

momma say daddy dun got lockd up in da pen bcuz whitey iz rasis

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>be me
>dad left when i was 11
>no contact since
>do 23andme DNA test @ 37 just to prove i'm 100%euro (I am, Anglo)
>relative match @47% saying anonymous is father
>click request to share details button
>24 hours later, match is gone.

mfw

Guess I'll post my situation,

Father:48, Mechanic, divorced when i wa young so haven't seen him in about 4 years

Me: 21, full-time college student and Marine Surveyer(basically do insurance claims and repair estimates from imported cars, mostly Hyundai and Honda, damaged during transportation by sea vessel, easier than it sounds), Sadly I don't like my father too much, had to get a father figure from old school cowboy films and knight movies during younger years

My dad is 65, career soldier (retired), GOPe. I'm 30, career infantryman, (medically retired VA rated 100% disabled with IU, leg blown off in Afghanistan with traumatic arthritis up and down my spine), Trump supporter.

We don't talk, he thinks I'm a welfare leech, I think he's a POG ass cuck.

>>134106667

Did both your legs get blown off or just one?

>>134106864
>leg

>>134104449
Dad is airline pilot 56, makes around 120k.
Me 23 airline pilot as well make 55k for now, we have a good relationship but I just had to move to Chicago from California so I wont be seeing him much anymore

>>134106864

Left leg above the knee

My dad died when I was two and left mom with me and a newborn. She did her best and pushed me to masculine things like outdoors work and that shit. But I know I missed out in a important part of growing up, and I never learned how to speak deeply to women, so I've become a kissless virgin just Saturday. Still think the world of Mom, she put my brother through college and balanced raising us, getting a degree and working at the power plant, but I just wonder what could have been

>>134106667
That's pretty fucked up of your father to think. Since your soldiering days are over have you got any other job?

>be me
>both parents highschool drop ours
>end up fucking and getting pregnant
>father beats her and runs away
>mother never has a stable relationship after
>oldest of 6 kids
>18
>youngest is 9 months
Let us not forget that she is super liberal and fell for the "dont need no man" bullshit. Youngest one is a gross mongrel of a spic and white

>>134104449
My father is 55, I'm 30, we both share the beautiful profession of NSA agents.

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>>134104449
I have a great relationship with the old man.

Owns a company and a huge lot of industrial land worth millions now.
He's been married to my mother for over 30 years and each of them have never been married prior.
Him and my mom keep a stable environment at home, buy me stuff whenever I needed it and put me through a STEM degree at a mid-tier university.
He is a brilliant entrepreneur and whenever I need business advice, I talk to him first.

White privilege feels great.

>>134104449
I dont have much of a relationship with either of them. Mom sends me money once in a while but thats it. I have two sisters that dont talk to me too. Holidays always suck, and I dont have much hope for relationships as a result of this. Still get laid tho.

>everyone on /pol/ is from a broken home
This really explains why you're all bitter virgins.

>>134109076
I'm pretty sure half of the West is from broke homes, here at /pol/ we at least acknowledge it as a problem.

I cut off contact with him around one year ago. Not a man I respect and we differ dramatically on politics, religious ideas, pretty much everything. After a while I said "to hell with this, what's the point?"

>>134104449

What if my father is a degenerate Marxist?

Typical boomer. Very hard working, but his entire youth was kind of a drifter's youth, where he just wandered from town to town, state to state, getting jobs he was massively unqualified for before going to university and settling down. As a result, he has absolutely no comprehension about how much the world has changed, and doesn't understand that I can just walk into a building off the street and apply for a full time job with no qualifications in the booming mining industry. When he had kids, he was too embroiled in investments and work to ever bother with us that much, but all the quality time we had together holds a special place in my heart.

Despite how much I respect him, I have to say that I never want to be like him outside of his work ethic. He spent too much time at work, and not enough time with his family, which resulted in my mother mostly raising my siblings and I. Since my mother herself has a lot of mental issues, this left permanent scars on all of us. Most of my friends had relationships like this with their fathers, except the ones who didn't have fathers at all. It's a bit depressing.

>>134109479
Then he probably had rich parents or was raised by a single mother, otherwise he just didn't get along with his father. Most Marxists fall under one of those three categories, again connected to my theory that good fathers are necessary to maintain a western culture.

>>134109486
>>134109479
>>134109386
>>134109076
>>134108980
>>134108574
This is what's harming our present society, lack of good fathers figures or just bad ones, when a man can't even create a bond with the child he helped create then it's a sign there's a big problem with the mentality of those generations, and the problems only get worse as generations pass, something that is become far too common in the West.

>>134108285

Not really. Been going to a lot of physical therapy for my spine, prognosis (from shitty VA doctors) says I'll be in a wheel chair in the not too distant future. Luckily, I was blessed with a strong musculature, so hoping to prove them wrong. Really been thinking hard about becoming a history teacher.

>>134108574

That sounds crap as hell. I'm just hoping you turnd out for the better, lil' bro.

>>134104449
My father is dying of liver cancer, about 2 weeks left, I have been spending every night over at my parents house. He's sleeping most of the time now.

It's sad to see the man who I viewed as a hero, slowly waste away.

Fuck cancer, go hug your dads.

>>134104449
mines in prison

I've worked with my dad for like 3 years now. I really don't like him as a person. He smokes weed all the fucking time. He wont listen to anything I try to tell him, and when it end up being an 'I told u so' he gets really pissed.
He's also called me buddy my entire life and not by my actual name. Sometimes i question if hes my biological father.

>>134104523
Kill yourself

He died a few years ago in a car accident ripperino
But all of his family are labour supporting socialists so who gives a fuck

>>134104449
Toss in your social security number and mother's maiden name for good measure

>>134110627
That's an admirable goal, I would like to become a history teacher in my old age and teach, I'm just worried about the type of kids I'll be teaching.

>>134109759

Actually his parents were poor. He is just a philofag and loves open borders. He disgusts me.

>>134111608
Then he might of just had a bad relationship with his father

>>134104449
He was killed by the Zetas over a decade ago. He was a great man and I am proud to carry on the traits he left me. He will be avenged.

>>134104449
Great. He's with my mom since 26 years. We lived a pretty good life and he provided for us. I learn respect, responsibility and all the good stuff from him. I can talk life, politics and almost everything with him that we discuss here. Some times he doesn't have the full scope of things but he's open minded to new information and ideas.

I love him and I know that I can always come back home and be welcomed with a smile.

>>134111744

He did. His father beat the shit out of him every day.

Personally though my point of view is that beating your children is good. Just because it didn't work on my dad doesn't mean it isn't a good way to build character and discipline your children.

>>134111806
Mexicans tend to have that advantage over white people, the families tend to be a lot closer and the parents more traditional.

>>134109357

Destroying the family unit has been one of the more prominent missions of the Jews

Their mission appears to be bearing fruit.

>>134112119
It's true. I was raised Jewish and I saw how evil Judaism is. I converted to Protestantism and Jesus lights my path. Usury, misegination and degeneracy have no place in civilized society.

>>134112119
You can blame the Jews if you want, but in the end it's just individuals failing to fulfill their duties by their own free will because it's easier, no one can force a man's hand, only offer him a place to put it.

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>>134109386
So what if your views and opinions differ. Don't quit you faggot.
You rise above it and carve a solid relationship with you father, regardless, even if it the onus is on you.

What the fuck is wrong with cunts these days?

>daddy no agwee wiv me
>waaaa
>I no wuv daddy any more
>buh bye daddy

>>134112438

Well... I'm not giving up on my dad. I will continue to try to show him the path of our Lord Jesus Christ so he may be saved.

>>134112081
There's some nigger tier Mexicans that have no responsibilities with their sons and just go around dumping kids like mad, like my inclu who has like 7 children with 4 women, that I know of, but truly our culture it's pretty family oriented.

We love a good carne asada and beer with the family.

>>134112333
I wouldnt blame the destruction of the family unit solely to the Jews. Surely, its part of the Agenda, but I think its more of a symptom of the way we conduct ourselves and the things we all promote in our society then it is them specifically. Of course things like subsidizing whoring (child benefit) contribute greatly to the family units disintegration, but at the end of the day, its the culture we choose to embrace.

>>134104896
I kekd

>>134112657
Uncle*

>>134104449
Fucking awful. He should have never had kids.

Hes dead

>>134112657

Yeah it's true. Plus Mexicans are mostly Christian. That is an admirable trait in my book. I pray that the cartels will meet a firey end for their sins against both our people

>>134104449

>Be me
>Dad hasn't work in 15 years
>Home everyday
>Basically a NEET
>No relationship with wife
>Everyone runs away from him
>Emotionally abusive
>Airs dirty laundry
>General loser who gave up on his family

Waiting for him to die, desu

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>>134112634
Good lad.

God speed, anon.

>>134104449
Pretty good. I'm at his office because he said he needed help finding stuff but he's in with a client so I'm shitting around here.

>>134112812

This

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I have an excellent father who I love and respect tremendously, despite our political opinions not aligning in the slightest. If anything, it makes our many arguments interesting and enjoyable.

>>134104449
He killed himself 35 years ago. He was a mechanic/blacksmith/artist - obviously suffered from depression and extremely low self esteem, his father also killed himself. I'm trying to break the cycle...

>>134112901
Swiss dude care to share your situation? Seems like you got some strong convictions and I'm wondering if it's good parenting.

He is a man who worked his entire life. Also very european. It makes me proud to be white because of who he is.

>>134113307

Good luck anon, do you have a church nearby? I found in times of doubt being embraced by the church and followers of the Lord gave me solace and comfort.

>>134104449
awful and I hope he dies

>>134104449
i'm his doppelganger with a different face, we're both competitive, stubborn and very proud so it's either excellent or hellish, depends on the day, he's also the only man in the world that can give me an order

>>134104449
>him: 38, NEET and garbage
>me: 20, I do computer stuff and have 20k in the bank because I'm more frugal than a jew

powerade and buying in bulk is my love and hobby outside of shitposting and vidya.

>>134104449
Drunk as fuck somewhere. And so am I so I can't blame him for that. Really jealous of you burgers, I mean having a option to off yourself with a gun with 97% success rate is awesome! I on the other hand have to use a fucking rope that is bothersome to set up and isn't that good not to mention wrist cutting and pills memes that never work! Although putting your head in front of train wheels is the best option I don't really want to traumatise the hard working dude who drives the damn thing. Guess I am stuck here for hell knows how much.

>>134113923

you must have a really weird life if your dad had you at 18

>>134113579
Thanks, haven't been my thing but I'll consider it, I actually feel more "spiritual minded" as I get older >>134113579

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>>134113347
Great father overall, solid as a dad and a friend.

We have almost identical political views, but his are not well thought out and our approach to life differs to the extent where its difficult to find common ground outside of casual islamophobia.

We have an awkward relationship yet both recognise that we both try and as such end up working on many projects together even though we live in different countries.

He ensured my childhood was filled with adventure, imagination and a rebellious spirit, despite poverty.
He showed me, deliberately I believe, that you can work your way out of a shit situation, but to bear all responsibility and never take anything for granted.

One thing, he'll walk with me to the gates of hell if that's where life took me.
Id like to think some others I know would too, but I can't bank on it as I can with my father.

One thing he always taught me was that as a son, father, husband or brother it is your responsibility to keep the family in check, in good stead and provided for.


Fuck, raise a glass for your old man /pol/, in deed or in spirit.

>>134104449
He abandoned us as children, and I finally came home or year ago and I've been working with him ever since, and in that year I have learned, much to my dismay, that he is not the man I had hoped he was. He's only human. But I can be better. He might be a leftist cuck, bereft of all free thought, but I can be better.

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>>134114354
your father sounds like mine, i'll raise a glass for your old man, fathers like these are becoming rarer and rarer, we have to appreciate them while they are still a thing and do our very best to follow their example

Just moved to oregon from Texas. Miss my dad so much, he was my best friend.

>>134114354
Unbelievable fortune Swiss bro, as you can tell a large portion of /pol/ wasn't as lucky and I fear it will only get worse as time goes on. I'd cheer for my step father, who despite being a bit of a dick, I know at least gave his full effort at raising me despite having a shitty childhood himself, thought by the time he got any good at it I was already self sufficient, now all I can get is advice.

>>134114776
That's the point. He's just human.

As infallible as we think ourselves to be, there will be those that scoff at us, and deride us. Rightly so.

Where we can, and within reason, we must be the Testament to our future sons, a platform for them to soar from, to even greater heights than we have achieved.

Old man is 58. Was a truck driver for years and now an Orderly.
I'm 35 and Manage an Earthmoving company.
We have a great relationship. I live in a different state to my parents, but when I do see them, I always go out fishing with him in his boat. He loves his fishing, but never has anyone to go with him. I always go with because I can see the joy on his face when we go together.
When I did live in the same state. Would help him do renovations to my parents house.
I couldn't ask for a better father.
He has moulded me into the person I am today.

>I'm a mid twenties, above-average intelligence, and have a handful of great accomplishments.
>My Father is in his early fifties, works for Google, and has a handful of great accomplishments.
>Both of us are great people, but in the last two years, our politics have diverged, as well as our personalities.
>In the last six months, he's embodied the epitome of leftist cuckery, where I am unable to see any sign of authenticity about him anymore.
>The most inflammatory events that have destroyed our relationship have been when I addressed the distancing of our conversations, and the overall degredation of our relationship
>He believes that I've been washed up by some neo nazi cult, (while I'm a cuckservative), and I'm left to believe that he will never recover from whatever brainwashing he has been subject to.
>I'm certain Google has some form of indoctrination or subliminal ways to embolden the lefty narrative, because I expected him to be able to handle his side losing.
>I wish my dad wasn't a cuck.

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>>134115083
>>134114998

I appreciate the commendations.

We should all lead by example and not be bitter. See that which was faulty and obviate it in our own lives, without letting it poison our disposition.

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>>134115083
>>134114998

Oh, and a glass to yours.

>>134104449
My father's first born, my older brother, came out as transgender, so I'm working to make him extra proud of me as a man to make up for the son he lost :c

Its great, we joke around, hunt together, take hikes, build cabins on our land in the mountains and sell them. He is like a best friend to me.
Hope i will be half the man he is.

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>>134104449
I'm 18. He died two years ago. He was very smart and kind, strong and handsome too. He destroyed his health with beer, candy, smoking, and fatty foods--heart attack. As good of a man as he was, I strive to one day be a better father. He was irresponsible with his health and didn't always spend money well. We always lived in apartments. I currently live with my single mother, a democrat. I must hide my power level until I get a job so I can start my life.

>>134104449

NOT GOOD HE STILL THINKS WHAT IS BEST FOR ME AT 22

>>134104449
mid late 50's
works in IT, known as a sage in his field. makes 112k+ last i was told.

I'm just a tech peon. Remote Desktop support. he says I'm about the same place he was at my age career wise (except i make less, but whatever). 26.

He is very smart and good at his job but is known by those close to him to be emotionally infantile.
He has always been a quasi fundamentalist Mormon. Like, even other Mormons that we go to church with have always thought he was a little much. I guess you can say he mellowed over the years as each of his kids has turned into losers. His wife died in childbirth when i was 12. he remarried her best friend within 6 months i think. He had no chance of raising 6 kids on his own along with a newborn premature kid with cerbal palsy. and the kid ended up having a flavor of non verbal autism to boot.

I know his dad was pretty ruff on him. From what i've heard i probably would have killed my dad if i had gone thru some of what he did growing up. And he was an only child, that's why he had so many kids (they adopted 3 ontop of having 6 themselves) So Ive tried to be easier on him over the past few years. I know i wasn't when i was younger. He knows I love him, but sometimes i can only interpret his actions as deliberate sabotage. I wish he would be less of a child. He got a little abusive (physically) with one of my sisters (and me a bit too i guess, not that it probably wasn't a little necessary in my case) and I think that's why she is following a cult in india. making a few dollars a day and shitting outside i'm sure.

I'm going to tell him i love him when i get off work tonight. another one of my sisters is in a mental hospital again while on vacation so ill be talking to him anyway.

>>134115549
>We should all lead by example and not be bitter. See that which was faulty and obviate it in our own lives, without letting it poison our disposition.
wise words northern neighbour

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>>134108823

I'm a huge sack of crap. I work a lot, save all my money and own property. My white guilt is killing me.

My dad is 68, married to mom together since middle school.

When they pass on I will be a literal millionaire, so will brothers and sister.

White guilt.. me so sad.

My father is a good one. He raised me well and taught me many important things. 10/10.

>>134116396
>emotionally infantile
My dad's like this too. He's a very good and hard-working man but it's nigh impossible to have a conversation with him, sometimes feel like I'm talking to a cartoon.

Friend of mine got raped by her dad many times. I always wonder if she lurks these threads or if she hides them because of the traumatizing memories.

I have a great relationship with my father. Always have. We used to go hiking a lot, but now that he's older, we usually go fishing or boating instead.

He's retired now, but he was a successful businessman and entrepreneur who succeeded in many different fields. He retired a moderately wealthy man, and has been very generous with his money, without outright spoiling any of us.

Politically speaking, he's traditionally conservative, but not rigidly so. He supported Trump during the election (fairly rare in Norway) because he thought he would be the most interesting choice, and he's always liked outspoken wildcards like him.
He's against immigration and a race realist, like any sane person, but not personally racist in the sense that he hates other races or refuses to have anything to do with them. In fact, having to deal with them is what redpilled him in the first place.

Other than that, he's always been physically active and is still in great shape. He's had more adventures than I can imagine and dominated a certain adventurous, sports-like activity to the point where he was among the greatest in Norway, winning dozens of championships. I'm being purposely vague here, as I don't want to be identified.

I also feel I have to mention my mother, because the two are so fundamentally tied together. She's more or less been the glue that has kept our family together, and she's as caring and mentally strong as a woman can be. They trust each other completely, and my father often says that he wouldn't have been able to achieve what he did without my mother's support.

>>134115083
My dad is the same. He had no father figure aside from Training Instructors in the Air Force, so he's not perfect. He's tried his best and I've inherited his faults to a large degree, but he's trying and that's all I can ask for.

>>134119475
Maybe you should latch on to Peterson. He seems to be acting as a sort of surrogate father for a lot of young men.

>>134104449
he is dead no id say non existant

>>134104449
my dad beats me and then reported me to police claiming i was the one beating my parents lol, i went to jail for a good time, never spoke them again after

My father died of a heroin overdose when i was 12.

>>134104449
I rely way too much on him financially, I love him dearly but I wish I could be the one to spoil him. JP's talk about rescuing your father really spoke to me. Turns out he did take some of my advice, buying gold at 900$/ounce and using his company to bounce it back and forward when he needs liquidity, also took my advice and expanded his land ownership.
I think he'd disappointed in my lack of will.
Atleast I gave him 2 white grandchildren.
One thing is for sure, if he ever needs a hand I'd jump at the chance, thing is he's a C/C#/C++ programmer taking home 300$/hour working innawoods on a 1mbit satellite feed he scammed a company into giving him for free, since they made a shitty add where they guaranteed a certain speed he knew they would be able to provide so they were ordered by a court to put in hardware costing around 5 grand, free of charge, afterwords they added alot of exceptions to their "pledge". Hillarious.
He also keeps bees, got 7 hives and is starting to raise his own queens.

I hate my parents and avoid them now that I am an adult living by myself. I ignore their gay ass phone calls.

I don't think they were good parents and I don't have any affection for them. Whatever, I'm a grown man now and need to get a job so I'm not spending so much time on 4chan.

>>134104449
Him
>Christian minister/missionary in the US and Mexico
>70 this december
>Protestant Christian
Me
>30
>Neet, raise animals, care for plants, play music in church, started building wood workshop to build instruments and stuff, some programming and computer knowledge.
but after figuring out that the rapture is soon, i'm dedicating most of my time to getting closer to God, money wont save me
>We get along alright, after a few years of not. I usually go to him for advice

>>134106667
well, unlike your brothers in arms, DONT COMMIT SUICIDE!

Jesus is coming soon, turn to him if you haven't

that goes for the rest of the anons in this thread, time will be no more, and Jesus will arrive soon.

>>134107198
>money over family
never

>>134104449

dad passed away a couple of weeks ago. we had not close in a long time. funeral/wake is friday. I am going to fly in for a couple of hours then fly back home.

>>134115290

Why don't you talk to him and slowly red-pill him? You know, start with mostly apolitical subjects and once he starts seeing the method to how you 'digest' these events, slowly get more and more political.

>>134104449
My father is a good man. My relationship with him is, well it's hard to describe. He has taught me so much but I wouldn't say that we are all that close. He's not a man who shows his emotions.

This thread is fascinating because usually when people admit that they don't have much to do with their family, they are bombarded with
>NO THE LOSER IS YOU!!!!! FABILY #1!!!!! FAMIY 4EVAR!!!!!!
And yet, most of us are in the same boat. Shitty, stupid, unloving, worthless parents and almost every other member of the family some unique type of degenerate.
My only responsibility is to my own spouse and children. Everyone else, related to me or not, can go fuck themselves.

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Always hated me, at least that's what I saw since I got memory. Never wanted to teach me shit, can't learn how to shoot guns, can't get time to teach me how to build things with tools and to work the land, never really liked to take me to fish.

Grew up hating myself cuz I take it as my fault, cuz of course my parents can not be wrong mentality.
Not too many beatings, it was the indifference that hurt me the most. Only as an adult at 17/18 I realised how wrong that was and why I'm so fucked and agressive towards everyone that I think I let down.

Now I just to get a job (I think I got an interview in 2 days), get my own money and forget about him for years. He has formed a new family, he tol me that he hates to send me money and seems to disaprove my college election.
FUCK HIM, you had a chance with me, now hurry and die alone.

>>134104449
Him
>Owns a mid-size aerospace company
>Age 50
>Apolitical, spiritual but not religious
Me
>20
>In college, majoring in finance
>Great personal relationship and will likely work for his company as its CFO right out of college.

>>134104449
ffs, i'm that old man now.

>>134124128
I thought it would be interesting too, part of why I made it, I didn't expect this many replies though but it makes me hopeful that people who came here with bad parents can be inspired to become good parents themselves

>>134123935
My Father is the same way. I think it's supposed to be understood that the love is there. A father provides knowledge, a home and sustenance and that is how he shows his love. Stoicism and masculinity walk hand in hand. It's a good example to set.

>>134104449
I have many fathers.
>carpenter
>50
>conservative
>19
>poor
>bad

>>134124856
I think that most people on /pol/ are of high enough intelligence to be able to learn from the actions of their parents instead of repeating them. Most people turn into an even worse version of their parents because they are stupid and just instinctively react instead of thinking first. I never thought I would want children until I grew up and was around them. Their sweetness and innocence made me all the more determined to be the good kind of parents that my parents weren't. Now I am excited to have kids, but it is also up to me to keep them away from bad people (including family members).

>>134104449

my mum jokes that I'm a clone of him since we look the exact same and have the exact same spergy personality, he always has good advice for me and we talk every day

"Both had my father. It's peculiar. I'm older now'n he ever was by twenty years. So in a sense he's the younger man. Anyway, first one I don't remember so well but it was about money and I think I lost it.

The second one, it was like we was both back in older times and I was on horseback goin through the mountains of a night, goin through this pass in the mountains. It was cold and snowin, hard ridin. Hard country. He rode past me and kept on goin. Never said nothin goin by. He just rode on past and he had his blanket wrapped around him and his head down, and when he rode past I seen he was carryin fire in a horn the way people used to do and I could see the horn from the light inside of it. About the color of the moon. And in the dream I knew that he was goin on ahead and that he was fixin to make a fire somewhere out there in all that dark and all that cold, and I knew that whenever I got there he would be there. Out there up ahead.

And then I woke up."

>>134104449
I love my dad very much. I kind of feel like this is some sort of census sampling or something so I'm not going to say much about it.

my father is an alcoholic narcissist living off government benefits somewhere in Asia

>>134104449
He's a faggot hunter-rapist, and he has picked up your scent

>>134104449

He bailed long, long ago. Never taught me how to be a man or how to treat a woman, had to figure it out myself.

Now I'm grown and have two boys from two different women due to years of man-whoring and blue-pulled bullshit and the cycle looks to be set to continue. I won't let it though.

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My father has united the galaxy under his banner.

Me, I am just conquering the last few territories with my legion the lunar wolves.

We have a great relationship!

I have a bigger dick than my dad but we are still really close.

He died while I was young, my mother did her best but perhaps I lacked discipline, now I'm 22 and trying to make myself an exemplar man; strong, well-read, and capable of improving myself and my surroundings everyday.

My dad is a great guy but man is he boring as hell. Man has never taken a risk in his life. Retired after working 40+ years at a soulless government job so he's done ok for himself. But I can never ask him for advice because I know he'll always say to play it safe.

We argued and I broke off contact. It's the first thing I ever wholeheartedly cared about enough to not go back on. Sometimes I imagine calling him and maybe coming to some manner of reconciliation. But I don't think that could ever even happen. I blame him for telling me I'm unwanted. Supposedly he's still alive but dying; I feel increasingly torn.

>60s
>divorced
>works 7 days a week
>super bluepilled
>bad with money and blames his kids not himself
>rented out a room to a 20 year old stranger and treats him like a son
>one more year and i can stop talking to him entirely

>>134104449
Has a human resources firm (worked his ass off in this corrupt shithole that I live in). He says he's catholic, but he seems more like a deist.
I'm 18 living the NEET life, but I'm thinking about getting a job when I begin college this August. Economically we are middle high class.
We are pretty close and he is always there for me. We are pretty different in relation to interests and life goals. He sees money and wealth as the only medium to happiness, and I respect that. This motivated him to get to were he is today despite the difficulties my country imposes.

>>134130750
If you feel unsure, go ahead and try to talk to him. Even if just for your own peace of mind, such as if there are any questions from him that you want answered. At least afterwards, you should feel more confident in however you choose to handle the situation.

>>134131485
>bad with money and blames his kids not himself
>rented out a room to a 20 year old stranger and treats him like a son
I've seen this behavior a lot. A rejection of their own children, replaced by something foreign. I think it is a rejection of personal responsibility, your dad isn't really responsible for the stranger, so he embraces him with open arms, knowing that he has the option to kick him to the curb at any point. It is disgusting. So many boomers wonder why they are alone on the holidays.

>>134131485
Damn

Honestly all politics shit aside, Hitler said it best. He said he loved his mother, but respected his father very much. Our fathers do things to prepare us for world, maybe it's out of love, but I think it's out of respect.

>>134131512
Honestly, I was about to talk about what actually happened because I sometimes use this board for feedback of the type my surroundings can't offer, but as I typed I realised that I am not unsure at all. What I need to know I know and whatever else he might have to say does not deserve even being remembered. I won't call him, I'm content to just let him and the baggage die. But I needed an opinion to make up my mind. Thank you for answering, Dixiebro.

my dad was a good dad but hes getting memory loss now, old age kicking in, parents are still married. I go to their farm to help out with manual labor shit about once a month. i should just quit IT office hell and move back home...

>>134133071
Okay, no problem, Krautbro. Just make sure you don't have any regrets. Wish you the best.

>>134133572
Could you eventually inherit the farm? That would be amazing, you should definitely do that. Much more fulfilling than office slave.

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PA: 93, WW2 vet, farmed his whole life, complete fucking hardass. never seen the man say "i love you" or shed a tear, even when his wife (my grandma) of 70 years died

DAD: 63, worked/lived on pa's farm, worked in factories entire life to make end's meet. disowned my sister because she got knocked up by a nigger

ME: 28, first generation student, graduating with a degree in chemical engineering, preparing to go work my life away and then return to my family's land before i die.

my dad treated me like a fucking subhuman retard my entire life because i wasn't good with mechanical stuff (tractors, cars, machines). now i fix his phone and computer and show him how to pirate everything under the sun. we're cool now.

>>134133658
Thanks, to you too. And I actually have no regrets at all. This sounds mental but it's actually just that liberating to admit all this stuff to myself. I think I have some kind of Southern State whisky left and will celebrate with it.

Best of luck with everything to everybody ITT.

>>134134032
i have 4 siblings, so id have to buy them out, and the property is somewhere north of 5 million these days

He was on the cusp of the baby boomers and gen xers (early 60s), went to University of Southern California in the 70s, and got the glory days of the late 70s and early 80s in corp finance and public accounting.

Solid morals, never raised a finger but his voice was like a lion when I was young. He has my back. A good man who endured life shitting on him post 2000s. His landscape company/empire was a subcontractor to Lennar (second biggest home builder that went bankrupt in one of the biggest in history and then used public funding to bankroll its balance sheets)...Ive never asked specifics out of respect, since the projects he worked on were big money and he was gone alot in the year before the crash, but he has hinted that he got personally screwed out of close to $3 million, not including how much his company was never paid.
He paid back everyone who worked under him even with his own funds, so its the reason he has a reputation and makes probably 150k now (not amazing, but for losing millions owed its depressing)

we handle my mother's mental illness and anxiety. I had to take loans to finish college due to her health costs of 4k a month. we survived. I learned honor through his deeds and actions and respect the sacrifices made, most doubted I would even graduate college due to the immense work I had to do to fund it. I used to hate him and thought he was weak but that was when I was an impressionable angsty teen.

We both have joint ventures to pursue in texas after we cut our ties to california. We are direct descendents of a president... I want to honor all my ancestors and my father with a huge family and my own empire one day

>>134134057
It's not mental at all. Family problems are the worst, most heartbreaking shit. Sometimes it can take a long time to sort it all out, because you want to believe that it's not so bad. You're right though, once you are finally sure that it is indeed a disaster, nothing feels better than to move on and leave it behind. Cheers.

This board never ceases to amaze me.

Me and my dad were so drunk at a bar in Richmond Virginia the other day our conservative slander made Eric Cantor move tables.

My Dad: 66, ran the family business for nearly 30 years, worked 60 hours a week. Kind of a hardass and anxiety prone before he discovered xanax and stopped drinking so much. When I was younger he was kinda scary; easily angered, very very tall, moustache and beard, salt and pepper hair.

I resented him for a very long time. Moved me around a lot, blamed him for a lot of things.

About a year ago he almost died. Massive burst of Crohn's disease claimed his anus and two thirds of his large intestine. Had a stoma put in, fell on it, went back to the hospital where they found more rotten guts, removed more intestine, another stoma. Got extremely depressed, wouldn't eat. Had to go to a long term rehab facility.

Came out to help him out. Was floundering and miserable where I was. Be a companion, drive him to the store or to doctor's appointments, keep him company and from falling back into depression over what happened to him. Really changed my perception of him, humanized him, worked out all of our differences. Helped him recover as best as he could. One of the best decisions I've ever made.

All of his doctors and nurses have thanked me profusely, said he wouldn't have recovered like he has without me being here. I found a decent job at the hospital where he was treated, have made a great impression with people there. Whole episode has inspired me to go back to school to become a nurse or a hospital technician.

I was so miserable a year ago, working a cubicle job in a huge city feeling totally isolated. Best decision I ever made was to up and flee that awful place. I've made more friends out here at work and at the bar than I ever did in 5 years in ATL. Gonna get fulltime at the hospital, go to school, get my own place again, and find a waifu quality Mormon or Idaho girl out here. Done being a drugged up jerkass.

My life is coming together.

>>134134972
go into pharmacy bro. most kush "medical" job there is and you make bank.

if you work at CVS for a year, they can push you through the certification process for free. get that cert and then quit CVS and get a job at your hospital.

comfy and easy career

>>134104449
Him: 52, CEO he is a die Democrat/Liberal, hates Trump and buys into the (((MSM))) narrative entirely, other than that he is intelligent.

Me: 19 white male currently at a good college and working while in school.

My relationship with him has become a little strained because of our disagreements over politics unfortunately. It is definitely better than when I was still in high school though. I was a degenerate weed smoker in highschool and he hated all my pot head friends. We get along better now but we get into many arguments about Trump and politics he thinks I am pretty dumb because I believe "fake news" like that there are no go zones in Europe or that Muslims tend to rape white women. I wish he would see the truth but he is into open to changing his beliefs.

>>134135863
He is also atheist or agnostic but I have become very Christian in the past year or so and that is also frustrating.

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>>134104449
Dad
>oil executive
>mixed race british and asian
>57
>agnostic and fairly liberal, unaware of SJWs
>not many hobbies besides photography

Me
>NEET
>22
>Mensa IQ but can't cope with college schedule
>lots of practical skills with wood and cars

Our personalities are quite similar but we've never done much together. Mostly he just works. I wish he was into cars and woodworking just a little bit, so he could teach me things, or I could share my stuff with him. He taught me how to drive stick recently, which was nice.

I want to start making money with my hobbies since university hasn't worked out... I'm not sure I can get a regular job because I'm such a nutcase. I had professors and administrators at school who manipulated and fucked me over to such a degree I actually developed mental problems (inb4 ">not following instructions", I did). Monetarily, I just don't see myself ever being as successful as my dad, unfortunately.

Fuck, I made this thread at 1 during my lunch break at subway, now I'm home and I believe this is the best thread I've ever made, the comments and people here are interesting and I'm glad people participated in it

>>134136837
Indeed, well done. It's threads like these that genuinely make me believe that if average Joe's can realize the value of fatherhood and identify it's singular role in society, we may stand a chance yet.

>>134104896
I don't get it :^(

Dad: Dentist for nearly 40 years. Grew up in a east LA during the 50's after my grandad and grandmother returned from Heart Mountain. Basically raised my aunt and uncle after my grandmother died, and still put himself through college and dental school. Absolute hardass, but I like to think he's taught me how to be a good man and hopefully a good father.

Me: 28. Went to college for applied sciences and thankfully found a career I enjoy and gives me a comfortable living.

Growing up, our relationship was definitely strained, but it's better now that I've grown up and realized how much of an ass I was being in high school. We see eye to eye on a lot more things now and I'm still learning quite a bit from him.

My dad has been dead since I was 8
I don't know what to say about him
He was a drunk
He drank
He died

>>134104449
He is a fucking bitter misirable temper tantrum child with no friends.

>>134112864
Same here

Except the waiting to Die part

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>>134104449
father is Generation X. Married at 20-21 something like, dad became an alcoholic, mom left him for a nigger. Dad remained an alcoholic Neet for at least 17 years. Funded by my grandparents, and the government. Claimed "mental problems/anxiety". Very liberal, watches msnbc all the time. Never taught me anything in a way of being a man. he's still alive but his liver, and kidneys are so fucked up that i believe he's going to die within 5-10 years.

>>134122384
It's not necessary. You love your father and he'll love you if both of you are good people. Politics is secondary