Panic Attacks

>>134101987
Man here. When experiencing severe distress that you are emotionally and or physically ill to the point where you can't get anything done or go crazy. Everyone has their limits.

t. Saw my best friend die with his eyes open

>>134101987
I've had them during an existential crisis. Few women ever have these. It's probably from bullying or something. Women are pretty malicious to one another and they're all so panicky half the time

>>134101987
Because women are weak and attention seeking. I think I might've had a panic attack once and that was a couple months after I attempted suicide so I was not in a sane state of mind. If that's how many women are all the time then they need to lose their rights

>>134101987
Women have smaller brains with more cross-cortex connections. This makes them dumber and more easily frightened. Their genetics makes them far more susceptible to panic attacks and other mental health issues. Anyone whose had a crazy mother or sister can attest to that.
You need to stop believing the propaganda about how women can do anything men can do and how there are no differences between the sexes. These differences are clear as day to real men and women and we act to reflect this understanding.
If you're asking such non-sense to us seriously, then you're a blue pill moron.

>>134101987
i get that too though and im male

>>134101987
Some do have them under extreme stress. Some are just "almost fainting" for attention, some want a strong man to take them in his arms and say everything will be ok. Now guess which attack is which.

I got anxiety when I had to move out of a home. No sleep, etc.

Also, I get these unpleasant stress flashes when somebody barges in through the office door without knocking. It can not be controlled rationally, I know I'm physically save there.

>>134102329
>Everyone has their limits
>my limits are saying words in front of people
>shits to scarrry!

fuckers need to realize that if you are in a place to speak in front of a crowd, regardless of size 10-900000, they are there because they WANT to hear what you have to say. They desire to hear the words come out of your fucking mouth. I've spoken before a crowd of 3,000 strangers and gave financial updates on our portfolio. I've watched my CEO stumble over a portion of his speech, he laughed and continued. 20 minutes later no one, besides me, even remembered him doing so.

>>134102329
That is quite a different scenario than getting attacks from standing in front of 20 people to give a presentation

>>134101987
They're dramatic, literally that's it

>>134101987
>I was talking to my younger cousin (inb4 someone references my flag) and she told me she couldn't present at school because she has "presentation anxeity"

Everyone has this. It is normal because it isn't normal to address a crowd of people and most people don't have practice doing it.
I've performed music to large crowds and small, and on national TV, and it is the same regardless. You just have to get over it. The more you do it and the more often, the less nervous you are about it. When I hadn't done it in a long time, it was like starting all over again. This isn't a woman/man thing, it is a human thing.

>>134102878
waahhh why isn't everyone like meeee I can only view the world through my owwwn experiences and not those of others

>>134101987

You need fathers to tell kids to suck it up. This mommy makes the rules world is insane and entirely feelings based. Everything must be nice. Everything must be fun. Everyone must be polite. Don't get angry. Get along to go along. Refugees welcome.

>>134101987
they do that for attention
it's the new ADHD/autism

>>134101987
Kek, I was just thinking about this. All girls now have "social anxiety" or "panic attacks". I have no idea.

>>134101987
It's because they identify as their mind/ego instead of realizing they are only a wave in the collective consciousness.

ive gotten legit panic attacks seeing 10s of thousands in my investments get frauded, as well as having to live in my car doing 23 units to finish my last semester in college due to said circumstance.

>ive had girlfriends whose lives spiralled because that day they got a fucking traffic violation ticket and ended with almost killing themselves and ruining their family's dynamic

>>134101987

Because they have so many delusions that it causes a split between what is and what they think, it creates a fight or flight response.

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>>134101987

Perfectionists are heavily predisposed to anxiety disorders.

People mistakenly think anxiety is like 75% scary thoughts and 25% physical discomfort. Anxiety is actually about 95% physical discomfort and 5% thoughts. Anxiety kicks in before conscious thought has even had a chance to process a situation, nearly instantaneously thanks to the amygdala.

It is a caveman adaptation to stay alive when you see a snake out of the corner of your eye and instinctively jump away -- then your brain consciously processes the situation a few seconds later and notices it's only a rape, and sends the shutoff signal to your amygdala. Anxiety disorders result form every day situation signaling your amygdala and your neocortex being unable to send the shutoff signal.

If you want to start freeing yourself from anxiety you need to learn how to train your amygdala to no longer trigger on things that are not life or death threats.

See: https://www.unlearninganxiety.com/amygdala/

> t. guy who quit job and is tapering off 8 years of klonopin and deals with a daily panic disorder. AMA

>>134101987
>Confederate
>Cousin
Sorry, you can't inb4

At east post pics

>>134104771
> and notices it's only a rape,
a rope. lol

>>134104130
It's just a clinical term for something everyone experiences. Everyone gets nervous in social situations sometimes, or when presenting in front of a class. Fear of public speaking is super common. It's just that they've adapted these labels from the Tumblr-self-diagnosis crowd and now they all have anxiety.

A few years ago in high school this girl in my class always complained about having blackouts and panic attacks during exams and stuff.
Always thought it was funny how she always posted on twitter that she was partying till morning on the days of those tests...
People will always make up excuses , because there's no punishment for it and the school doesn't really give enough of a fuck to actually check if she's telling the truth.
It's more likely that most people just fake having anxiety etc because it gives them a nice pillow to land on whenever something doesn't go their way.

>>134101987
You think this just happening to women?

Are you really this stupid?

>>134102608
>suicide atemptee
>calling anyone else weak
you should've finished the job, desu

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>>134102329
>have to present book report to class
>die with eyes open
war never changes

>>134104130
>>134101987

Is it any surprise though? Gender roles have been completely scrambled and there's confusing information everywhere. They are in most cases fighting their own biology to conform to (((societal norms)))

>sex imprints the woman on a man
>sex is (((encouraged)))
>it leads to misery

>women can do anything
>until they actually try and things are hard

Women's lives used to be simple. Stay healthy, be useful around the house, learn how to cook, be a good mother and wife and then do whatever the hell you want to do on the side.

Now they have to compete but biologically they still want that family life and only a handful of women can handle both.

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>>134104002
waaaaah why isnt everyone a coward like me waaaaaaah everyone should understand that i piss myself waaaaaaah

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>>134104939
You win this round

A panic attack to a woman is just run of the mill stress and nervousness to a man. Women tend to let it all out at once while men internalize until it gradually goes away.

This is why you get all those bullshit studies that say women deal with stress and multitasking better. They study women at their peak while men are more of a constant flat line.

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>>134108003

If you've ever bit in a car accident or near miss that's a bit of what a real panic attack actually feels like.

Heart racing and pounding out of your chest
Tightness in chest
Difficulty breathing
Dizziness
blah blah

I've had them last for over 8 hours. I get a teensie bit annoyed when people conflate their social "anxiety" with what I've had to deal with.

>>134101987
I once faked a panic attack and totally got away with it. I feel like panic attacks are bullshit

>>134101987
For attention and sympathy

Alex Jones always gives me panic attacks.

>>134101987
They do it for attention and to get out of stuff.
Everybody has a (real) panic attack at some point in their life, it takes a very special snowflake to not be able to dishes or homework because of them.

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>>134108784

shut up faggot.
Know what it feels like to be in a close firefight? Tunnel vision, body parts and blood everywhere, your side dead their side dead. Explosions so loud it shakes your soul.

>near miss car accident.

goddamn faggots these days.

Male here.
I have panic attacks about once a month due to "mental issues"
they are very real and very scary. feels like someone is holding a gun to your head. although i've seen people who fake them so i understand if some of you call bullshit.

>>134110643

Nazi Flag
>desperate cry baby over stress.

Kill yourself.

>>134101987
My brother's girlfriend has this. Basically, she has always had people (in particular her mother, who is a housewife) do everything for her, that when it is time for her to take initiative, do something for herself, and step out of her comfort zone, she literally has an anxiety attack. She literally cannot handle doing things herself and have self-direction and drive.
She is also the worst slob I have ever seen (my bro found old banana peels in her clothes draw, for example). You'll find that the vast majority of girls who have """anxiety""", are also lazy useless slobbish pigs.

>>134101987

a panic attack is just hyperventilation and elevated heartrate

women have a naturally quicker ventilation and heart rates compared to men, hence why they care more about stupid shit and get panic attacks more often

>>134110767
>implying one can't have a slight brainfuck because of political beliefs.
i bet you are a jew. get gassed.

>>134101987
a lot of my male friends have claimed panic attacks too. I wouldnt even know what that feels like. Hard not to think they're just a pussy

>>134110947

Catholic. Do you keep a paper bag near by in case of emergency?

>>134108784
>8 hours
Wtf are you talking about man?

>>134101987
Btw if you want to calm a girl who is having panic attacks you should take deep long breaths yourself(in a calm way), preferably while holding them. I have no idea why this works, but I discovered it by accident. It makes them stop hyperventilating and kind of adjust to your breathing

>>134101987

I have them all the time, but they seem to last weeks or months and not all at once. Feels like a slow heart attack, sometimes keeps me inside for a few days. I mean I still work 2 jobs and I'm out in public quite a bit for it, but on my days off I will literally do nothing when i'm having these attacks. Can't even bring myself out of bed. Usually I just lay in bed my entire weekend off, feeling like a cannonball is strapped between my heart and sternum. Sometimes I actually manage to go about 30 hours without eating, pooping or drinking.

Shit sucks sometimes, I don't have any friends but at least I don't bitch about it all the time.

>>134103699
This is the only correct post here.

>>134101987
Attention, and an easy excuse for their histrionics.

Literally everyone "why do women do x" thread can be explained by attention.

>>134108784
Panic attack=\= anxiety attack

I used to have panic attacks I think, not regularly but certain situations when I was younger.

First for running a treadmill first time and overexertion

Second for injections, whenever I had one

Third for smoking weed, 1/100 joints would trigger a panic attack in me, depending in what I was thinking about

Fourth when on a train and feeling tired after being tattooed for 4 hours

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>>134111409

All those symptoms lasted for 8+ hours for me sometimes. It was not uncommon for me to have ones that last all my waking hours. Impossible to sleep. Eventually you just black out. It was the final straw before I went on klonopin. That or lose my job for too much unpaid time off.

Shit's real. But then my experience get treated as if it's the same as Stacey freaking out a bit because her bf hasn't called.

>>134110439

Sounds terrible if you're not larping.

>>134111618

Dude you need to fix that somehow. Have you tried some sort of sedatives or other relaxants? Have you had your blood checked for abnormal hormones etc? You're pissing your life away if you're suffering weekends at a time in complete agony. I don't know to what extent you've tried fixing that, but it could be something quite simple that will improve your quality of life a lot. I've had similar issues with extreme social anxiety and years of severe depression that went away after changing my lifestyle/mentality a lot.

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tony soprano described it perfectly, like ginger ale bubbles in your head

OP has a point. Every fucking woman I know says she has "anxiety" and "panic attacks" etc.
I know far less men who complain about anxiety, and the ones I do know are either girly femme dudes anyway, or were in active combat.

Maybe it's hormones from birth control?

>>134112314

naw, I try and keep it medication free. It doesn't actually bother me, that might be the biggest worry about it. I wouldn't call it agony. I do everything else normalish; pay taxes, get groceries, do dishes etc etc. But every once in a while I'll have that attack feeling for 6- 8 weeks and I won't do anything.

You ever sit in front of your tv, or game console and not actually do anything for 4 hours because you can't decide what game to waste the day in? That, with the feeling of heart breaking. And then I'll get back into the swing of things and be happy go lucky for a while.

If anything the most anoying part is I have lived a decent life, married with two kids, jobs and money and even some time for toys etc. But I can't ever stop these panic attacks or the constant yelling in my head of KILLYOURSELFKILLYOURSELFKILLYOURSELF etc etc. I think my brain is just a dick to me.

>>134111618

Benzos are terrible for your health but I had a similar situation and it solved it. They are highly addicted and WAY, WAAAY worse to get off than even heroin, so be careful. 8 years later I'm tapering off them and trying to address the anxiety with amygdala retraining.

See >>134104771

Splashing cold water on your face helps a ton. Try it out. Google mammalian diving reflex. It slows your heart rate down because it thinks you're diving underwater. When I had 8 hour+ panic attacks I'd be doing that every 5 minutes.

Generally you can't eat because your body will refuse to produce enough stomach acid under extreme fight-or-flight anxiety. So the food just sits in your stomach and ferments and makes you burp and feel horribly ill and full of heartburn. Check out betaine hcl, it helped me be able to raise my stomach acid levels enough to eat through some of the bad days.

Get your B12 checked. Mine was rock bottom and that causes anxiety. Same with low testosterone. Get a full vit/mineral panel if you can afford it. I did one for about $250 from a place called spectracell.

Hope you find some peace anon-bro, I know those feels.

>>134101987
In society's attempt to help people with actual mental illnesses receive proper care and be taken seriously, we have glorified mental illness. With the internet there are millions of ways to convince yourself that you have mental illness, whether it's through WebMD, buzzfeed articles, personality quizzes, etc. Nobody wants to believe that their personal problems are their fault, everyone wants to believe that their personal problems are out of their control. If they can't present in class their options are either:
>A: Be thought of as a weak bitch
>B: Say you have anxiety/panic attacks to gain sympathy and make people who laugh at you look like total assholes. You will still be thought of as a weak bitch to some people, but not as many as option A.
>C: Fight through your issues and find a way to overcome them

Women use the anxiety/panic attack excuse way more than men do because it is way more socially acceptable for women to be seen as weak than it is for men. Women deal with problems through seeking advice and help from others. Men don't want to admit they have a problem, they'll internalize it and deal with it alone, I know I have.

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>>134113348

Yah, cold water helps. breathing i didn't try a lot of. My biggest hope for beating this is this

https://www.unlearninganxiety.com/amygdala/

Have to retrain your amygdala to shut the fuck off for non-life threatening stuff basically. It's a form of CBT (Cognitive Behavorial Therapy) I'm still reading through that website but it seems legit. Right now I'm down to .5mg of klonipin a day since I quit my job 7 months ago, back then I was taking 1.5mg a day. The real pain will be cutting down from .5 to nothing, that's when I'll have to deal with this in full force: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzodiazepine_withdrawal_syndrome

I'm using the ashton method to taper.

>>134101987
It comes from growing up in a pampered stressfree environment and not knowing how to handle responsibility and rejection

I also have these panic attacks, but I'm a man, so I'm told to fuck off and kill myself

>>134113063

I've never had benzos or any other percription drug. Other than some hardcore naproxin that didn't work, and vicodin for wisdom teeth that didn't work and I didn't need.

I'll check the b12 info, Ive heard about that before. Is there any foods I should seek out for it, or just get a supplement? I've always had a tendency to use foods to correct nutrition issues. Again not a pill guy, I think some of that is my anxiety that I'd get hooked on something and the trail of tears it would lead me down. Again my brain is a dick, to my knowledge I've never had any of these head meds before.

That also might moreso be because one of my friends from hs offed himself after going cold turkey on SRS meds. I definitely am hospital and doctor shy.

Is it wrong that this is the only place I feel comfortable, even during my attacks?

>>134101987
because they don't have a husband to deal with stressful situations for them
it's what they get for becoming thots desu

>>134101987

Correction

Why does practically every woman """YOU SPEAK TOO""" claim to have anxeity and panic attacks /pol/?

I don't see this, perhaps these are just the kinds of people who hang around in your social groups / you attract

>>134111750

You can explain all human behaviour that way if you arrange the lens correctly.

>>134101987
Uncertain if relevant but my mother is nearly 60 and constantly claims that literally every fucking thing stresses her out. Uncertain if she's actually so easily stressed or if she's just doing it for attention- might be both.

>>134114348

B12 is usually low in vegans because you get it from meat. Even if you eat meat, if you have enough anxiety it can lower your stomach acid production which is important for B12 absorption.

They make pills for it now which is the easiest. Sublingual, dissolves under the tongue. But for some reason my body only responded to the old school B12 shots -- so I do those once a month in my leg. Honestly I'd say you should be taking a daily multivitamin at a minimum if you're having any trouble eating during the anxiety periods.

As far as places that feel comfortable. When it's bad for me I can't leave my apartment at all. I can't even fire up a video game, the minor stress of an FPS send my anxiety back into panic mode. I'd usually put on movies from my childhood and try to ignore the symptoms.

Another thing you can try is making vape juice out of CBD crystals. CBD is the chemical in marijuana that relaxes, but completely isolated from the stuff like THC which can actually /give/ you anxiety. I buy my CBD crystals from bluebird botanicals. Here's how to make it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brw-fBr3C-Q

>>134104949
:D lol

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>>134110439
>Know what it feels like to be in a close firefight? Tunnel vision, body parts and blood everywhere, your side dead their side dead. Explosions so loud it shakes your soul.
Sounds like Heaven.

>>134104771
>See: https://www.unlearninganxiety.com/amygdala/
This is a very verbose way of saying "just bee yourself"

I get these thoughts that I don't know myself or that I feel like I'm not "here" and it causes a surge of adrenaline, which causes me to get anxious that I'm going to flip my shit or something.

However, I have never "lost it" through years of this, and now I have discovered that anger and aggression is somewhat of an antidote to fear and panic, so whenever I get these thoughts and feelings, I just conjure up some "fuck this shit! man the fuck up!" aggression and it helps.

My theory is that it relates to the fight/flight response and fear and aggression are interchangeable.

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You haven't had a real panic attack unless you've eaten a 1200mg pot brownie and dropped acid.

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>>134113063
>Splashing cold water on your face helps a ton. Try it out. Google mammalian diving reflex.

pic related: possible ground breaking anti-anxiety device??

>>134114936
Nuh-uh, men are the COOLEST and are above such petty trifles!

>>134101987
they're anxious about all the dicks they've been riding instead of finding a partner

>>134101987
I once dated a half native american who would induce anxiety on herself for no reason "omg aim not gonna finish my assignment before emidnight" then of course when she did finish and get it turned in it was all sunshine and rainbows.

women are children with tits

>>134115574

Not really. That website (from what I've seen so far) is actually a completely non-mainstream take on anxiety. Pretty unique. I've been to a ton of doctors and they don't know shit about how the brain actually works.

It looks like a form of CBT but I haven't read though the entire site yet. There's quite a lot of material on there. Can't vouch for it, but I'm hopeful.

>>134102878
>>134103540
>Why is anyone afraid of spiders? I have a pet tarantula that I love to let walk all over me, and I pet it too, no problem. Fuckers just need to realize that it's fun with pets.
>Why is anyone afraid of heights? I skydive all the time and I love it, fuckers need to realize that it's fun.
Because people aren't machines. You can't really explain why in a way that isn't just a pure guess, but a lot of people have a fear of those two things, and/or talking in front of a crowd. You can't really treat it either, you can only subject yourself to it to build up a tolerance temporarily that then fades the longer you stay away from it.

>>134114936
Men is more or less to get laid, women is more or less to get attention (positive from men, jealousy from women)

oook oook oook we're just a bunch of apes still

>>134101987
i had a panic attack once, i was at a real low point, balancing on a knifes edge between losing everything ang somehowe getting away with it,

it was the single scariest things thats ever happened tol me. if i was at my senses it would just have been a normal deal but i conpletely shut down, couldnt think, completely zoned out, just stared blank, co host took over so it worked out but damn it was scary.

>>134116886
>co host took over so it worked out but damn it was scary

do you host a game show or something?

>>134117057
a convention presenter for one of those places conventions rent to stay at, and concerts and stuff, this was literally just a plumbers convention, literally NOTHING, but i just completely imploded, i can barely describe the feeling

>>134116886
Is a panic attack different from a rage burst? Cuz i've been diagnosed with "anxiety" (likely doc just wanting to get my out of the office), never experience what I think is panic, but have been triggerd to sperg out a bit and punch through a window or smash something or whatever.

>>134110643
Sorry
>>134110767
He's right Hitler wanted all the mentally ill to stop existing. What he did to (((them))) was exaggerated but he did castrate tons of crazy/retarded people. A real Nazi can't call himself mentally ill.

>>134116518
I dunno, it sounds like very circular logic to me

>If you are scared of doing X then you just have to do X and the positice experience will overwrite your amygdala
>And if your experience is negative? That won't happen, you are a special perfect flower and anything you do will succeed!
>Here is a man who had anxiety for 30 years, then he just stopped behaving anxious, take that quacks!

At least it's good to know there's science behind it, I guess, I already heard this advice from a hippie life coach

>>134102329
How did you friend die, anon? Why were his eyes open, and why is that so much worse to dying with eyes closed?

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>>134101987
Used to have those due to a lot of stress.
It became impossible for me to ride the bus or take cabs (even tho i have a driver license for 10 years) and i became claustrophobic when i was near people.
I took a year of walking to work every day (8 km) and stopped giving a shit so much.Oh and i quit alcohol from 5 bears a day to 1 at 2 months.

I could say i walked away from that problem and now im cool.

>>134101987
they observe people indulging other women for their hysterics, so they are meme'd into thinking it is acceptable and okay

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>>134117616
*beers

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>>134117616
You jus neded sum frens

>>134117381
its kind of like panic, but with the complete innability to act.

ive had panic before, friend chops himself in the leg with and axe at the camping trip, adrenaline starts pumping you get him in the car and drive like mad, thats panic, but for me a panic attack was that maybe 10-20 first seconds of panic just lasting forever. without the "benefits" of panic, like reacting and quick decision making, just complete shutdown

I get them sometimes, it feels like my bed is vibrating like theres some kind of earthquake. I also have exploding head syndrome from trauma I experienced as a kid.

>>134117851
I always wonder how that survived through evolution

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>>134118016
That is called hypnic jerk.
I get it sometimes.
Nobody can cure that shit.
Its hilarious and a nightmare at the same time.
Its like getting shot in the head at close range.

>>134117309

I can understand that, whenever I go down the rabbit hole I can't really explain a single instance that would have triggered it. To me it always feels like I just now noticed I was underwater and drowning.

Last time I had a weekend like this I ended up watching every episode of nostalgia critic on youtube.

>>134117616
5 bears a day holy shit Gypsy anon, that is impressive.

>>134118176
how panic as a response survived? its hella useful, "panic" is part of my job, you cant improvise without a little bit panic,

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>>134118461
Come visit during the winter.

>>134118446
lasted about 30 minutes for me, i think, felt like a week, cant imagine that feeling going on for hours, would be worse then waterboarding, honestly

>>134101987
Starbucks is one possibility. Caffeine relaxes the esophageal sphincter, which lets acid seep into the throat, causing an adrenalin release. I had a severe attack earlier this year due to drinking too much coffee in one day. I thought I was having a stroke.

>>134117600
Think anon, he's a burger and we've been in the Middle East since 1991. I saw my friend die but it really didn't hit me until I got back to the states and started crying and throwing up in the barracks

This is because anyone can have a panic attack.

When you taught to be unreasonable and irresponsible an encounter with people who expect you to be reasonable and act responsible, causes a great deal of anxiety.

This is more of a training issue than a female trait.

>>134102765
Women tend to have an external locus of control... which enables them to feel overwhelmed more easily.

>>134118783

A weird semi-related thing I learned. A lot of heart burn / indigestion can actually be from TOO LITTLE stomach acid, not too much.

The sphincter at the bottom of your stomach has a pH trigger that tells it the food has been sufficiently digested/sterilized and is ready to move on. This will not open if your body produces too little stomach acid from stress, leading to things backing up and stomach acid shooting up into your throat.

Take betaine hcl to fix it.

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>>134118618
Kekkerino

Also, I had panic disorder and GAD for almost a decade. Shit can be utterly debilitating. It can destroy a life. Thing is, part of the cure is GETTING a life. I mean it, the best thing to lessen this suffering is attaining some station in life, however meagre. Trouble is, its hard to do this when you're basically non-functional with constant freak outs and ER visits. That's where medication and therapy helps. SSRI/SNRI withdrawal is shit, but believe me, sometimes they can save a nigga. They sure saved me.

Whatever you do, don't start down the benzodiazepine rabbit hole. Benzo withdrawal is the closest to hell you can get while still being alive.

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>>134119262
> Whatever you do, don't start down the benzodiazepine rabbit hole. Benzo withdrawal is the closest to hell you can get while still being alive.

Good advice.

t. guy tapering off 8 years of benzos.

>>134119070
Nigger, if this is true, and cures my GERD, I'm gonna find you, and I'm gonna suck your dick.

You ever notice how most of the shit that gives people social anxiety is shit that humans didn't really evolve for? Public speaking, huge crowds, talking on the phone, checking email, all are creations of the modern world (where modern is defined very broadly). It's not that fucking weird. When you think about it, it doesn't make people "weak" to have trouble with situations that never occurred for 99% of the history of the species, even if they're commonplace in the modern world.

>>134119863
>checking email
holy shit this is me.

i had this before email was a thing thoug, fuck mail. you dont know if its anthrax, a letter from grandma or a letter saying your fired, yea fuck whats writen on the outside, you cant know until you open it.

E-mail is even worse cause its instant

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>>134119780

Also check out taking a b-complex in addition to a regular multivitamin. Deficiency in b vitamins can lower your stomach acid. That advice alone saved my buddy from needing that throat surgery for GERD. B vits and betaine hcl saved me. Hope it works out for you anon.

>>134101987

Can confirm this happens.

>>134104253
Are niggers and kikes part of this "collective consciousness"?

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>>134101987
>had severe anxiety since preschool
>never told anyone
>now after graduating college have a panic attack everyday

My only hope is that it weakens my heart and kills me soon so I can stop feeling this

>>134101987
Because nothing is their fault there must be an external cause beyond their control that hampers their ability, obviously.

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>>134120172
I'll definitely check this out. I noticed a couple days back that Gavescon makes things WORSE. Its gotten to the point that when I lay down to sleep, stomach contents back into my throat and I wake up, feeling as if I'm drowning. This shit is seriously fucking me up. Funnily enough, this comes RIGHT FUCKING AFTER I finally got a handle on my panic/anxiety problems. Go fucking figure.

if you suffer from panic attacks daily as i did, you NEED to be exercising, i ran a fuckton and it helped tremendously, even after i stopped

>>134104771
Benzos are the devil. I still have problems with memory and have panic attacks after years of abusing xanax, and I haven't taken a benzo since 2015. Being a male with an anxiety disorder is the most humiliating thing on Earth, I fucking hate it.

>>134101987
Depends. I have these occasionally, especially when my dad has meningitis, and when I had clinical depression. Real panic attacks are a horrible experience caused by spontaneous fight or flight response without a visible cause. One feels like they are about to get attacked or die. Claiming panic attacks due to presentation is laughable at best, it is just general anxiety.

To be fair half of 4chan claims to have autism

>>134115947
I had a panic attack on acid during a loop. By far the most terrifying thing that's ever happened to me, I legitimately thought I would be driven insane forever. Never do psychedelics if you're an anxious person, it's not worth it.

>>134120800
>I still have problems with memory and have panic attacks after years of abusing xanax
lel enjoy your alzheimers at 50

>>134101987
Because women are weak, dumb, and pathetic and only get anywhere in life because of affirmative action.

Also look at this thread. It is more common in young white people.

>>134117600
>Why were his eyes open, and why is that so much worse to dying with eyes closed?

Dying with your eyes closed is probably pretty peaceful. Like going to sleep on not waking up again. Dying with your eyes open means you're awake in the middle of some fucked up shit.

>>134101987
For millions years women adapted to sit in a cave waiting for man to return with fresh meat. They just don't lift. They can do well by being provided for by a man.

>>134121111
Anxiety is linked to higher iq

>>134119863
>checking email

> i'm at 200 unread emails right now

fuck the shit out of youtube for the stupid notification emails.

>>134102329
I saw mybfriends finger come off. Bretty weird handing it back to him

>>134101987
Pharma industry propaganda.

They're embedded in the schools and universities, pathologizing every student and encouraging them to get "mental health" help (aka pumped full of toxic drugs) in order to make money.

>>134101987
Women like to lie because it gives them a rush.

>>134120757
HIIT seems to be the key. There's a lot of clinical evidence for it improving symptoms of anxiety and panic attacks, and increasing psychological resilience to feelings of anxiety.

>>134121094
I already score around the 3rd percentile for short term memory and working memory. Had a neuropsych exam done on me last year because I wanted to see if it was as bad as I thought. I hope they develop some kind of drug to fix it before I go full blown dementia.

>>134121402
Shit dude, you should probably kys before you lose the ability to do so.

When in history are women in the forefront of something. Woman like te be the center of attention for its own sake, but not when there are to be judge on skill/knowledge/ability.
It is cruel to force woman to be like man's position.

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>>134120757
>>134121402

Can confirm. Cardio is so good for your mental health and anxiety. Although I only seem to be able to do it safely when I'm not in high anxiety periods since my heart rate is already elevated from constant anxiety (I use a HR monitor) so when I go for a jog I can barely get a block before my thing beeps and says I'm at the max safe HR.

Any ideas about how safely do cardio when you're already in a panic state?

>>134103699
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rU5QTUGxWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tONEk9YMoIw

>>134121933
Wearing a heartrate monitor is probably making your anxiety worse, because you're constantly looking at it and worrying if it's too high. Hearts are pretty tough; unless you've got a heart condition, I'd say there's pretty much no danger if you work out on top of an already elevated heart rate.

Whenever I get anxious, I just ride up and down the huge hill near my house on my bike until I feel like I'm gonna puke. Seems to work pretty well.

>>134121311
did you lick it first or at least have a good joke Ida pick my nose with it.

Hey man, pull your finger!

>>134110439
And then you can calm down dude, giblets are giblets. Life aint precious or unique and if you get your head up your own ass all you're doing is being a detriment to your team.

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>>134108957
Most people equate a panic attack with general stress/anxiety/nervousness that everyone experiences. Your hands might get clammy, but it's essentially nothing drastic.

Then there are actual Panic Attacks, which most people will never experience, and be thankful because it's not something you'd wish on your worst enemy.

A real panic attack is your fight/fright/freeze system going absolutely apeshit, it's essentially a massive seizure of your brain due to hyperactivity of your amygdala, the excess brain activation can actually lead to a seizure. While generally harmless, panic attacks can cluster or turn into rolling panic attacks, so you're experiencing them for hours, days or weeks even.

A panic attack is the most terrifying a person can experience. Almost everyone who has panic disorder can remember their first panic attack, and almost everyone describes it as the most terrifying thing they have ever experienced.

My first panic attack was years ago. I went past an intersection where I was involved in a fatal car accident and my PTSD got triggered. I remember being disoriented and just watching myself walk. When I got home I felt fine, but when I woke up I couldn't talk. I would try to speak but couldn't form coherent sentences. Then the heart palpatations started, my heart would beat rapidly for random intervals then not beat for several seconds. I was sweatingly profusely and thought the world was going to end. Just complete doom. I had severe chest pain (people often go to the ER because they think it's a heart attack, and ER docs always rule out a panic attack when a cardiac arrest comes in first since 99/100 it's a panic attack). I literally thought I was going to die, and I wrote a will but I couldn't write clearly. I called my relatives to wish them goodbye. I thought I had gone insane so I packed a bag and tried to make it to the hospital to check myself into the psych ward. I made it out of the house, but my coordination was bad I fell down

>>134117851
It's the worst. I've had panic attacks when thinking about my future, dying, etc. My body and legs start shaking violently. It's like wtf come on, help me deal with this shit. I'm not going on xanax so i can forget everything, I need to sort it out. Right now i'm going through a long breakup and it makes me want to change cities. Maybe texas

>>134122967
and couldn't get up. I laid there while people walked by. My roommate came home and carried me inside where I just was in a state of one panic attack after another until the next day. I did go to the ER and they said I was fine, and I was in status panicus, and needed to be on medication, which I stupidly refused. So for years I refused medication and suffered hell on earth, to the point I wanted to kill myself. That's all I could think about, how to do myself in so I didn't have to live through 24/7 panic attacks. So I said fuck it, then one day I tried lorazepam and it was like day and night. No more panic.

I can't emphasize how distressing actual panic disorder is. Your quality of life is 0. You're in severe pain. You get brain shocks. Your nervous feels like it's being electrocuted. I was once hospitalized because my resting heart rate was 200+ and my BP 200/150. They had Doctors on standby because they thought I was going to stroke out.

So yeah. Panic disorder is very real and it's hell on earth. I have to take 2mg clonazepam a day and that controls it (thank god) to the point I can function and do things, and I haven't had a severe panic attack in years.

i'm a pretty confident guy and i don't really care what most people think of me and i don't have any anxiety in everyday life. that being said i have experienced drug induced panic attacks and i can confirm they are as real as it gets. it feels like you're having a heart attack your heart hurts so much and it doesn't beat properly, also feels like you're being literally strangled. I had 10 full blown panic attacks in one day and I felt like i was literally in hell. i was seriously so scared it wasn't going to stop it brought me, an emotionless full grown man to tears. its like 5 minutes of pure intense pain and disorientation an hour of mild heart pain and stress and then repeat.
i don't know if what the typical girl says is true and i'm sure most of them do not and will never experience what i experienced but if anyone does, i can empathise with them because it really is hell.
haven't had them since and i hope to god i never do again (stopped doing drugs, i come from a complete "white trash" background if you couldn't guess, so when you grow up around it it doesn't seem that bad) . but i've known friends using the same drugs lose their mind for a whole week having to be locked in their rooms so they don't do something stupid, ringing up the drugs helpline.
really do hope noone actually experiences panic attacks to this degree

>>134122083
>leaf

>>134117381
I've had "rage attacks", uncontrollable rage for no reason. It's similar to panic attacks, it's your fight/fight/freeze reaction fucking up. Something fucks up, your amygdala (anxiety center) goes wild and your brain starts going haywire and boom uncontrollable rage (fight reaction).

>>134104350
howd you get frauded?

>>134120489
If you have legit panic attacks there is medication for it, see a doctor. It's a physical condition

>>134118176
When my PTSD was at it's worst my hypervigilence was like I had super senses. I could see super far, I always scanned my environment for any threats, I could hear sounds crystal clear that I couldn't normally hear and I was my startle response was amplified by 10000%. It's an ancient survival mechanism, civilization has existed for a few generations, before that it was constant threats, wild animals, other clans killing you for no reason, etc. Those that didn't have the capacity to develop PTSD died off while those who could survived. It's evolutionary. The problem nowadays is PTSD turns on and stays on despite the threat having passed. All the modern technology (flights, cars, machines, etc) confuses this primitive survival mechanism.

It's like drowning. When someone is drowning, they are in drowning mode. If you get close they will latch onto you and not let go, taking you both down; our brains are hardwired this way.

Another example is the fight reaction. If there is a mortal threat, same as an imminent threat to your life or someone elses, your brain goes into autopilot mode (how people describe it). Your ability to feel pain disappears, your adrenaline goes haywire, your blood rushes towards your insides (less likely to bleed out) while rushing to your fists so you can attack. It also generally doesn't turn off until the threat has been neutralized.

>>134102878
Your autism is showing.

sometimes i get what might be considered a panic attack... my heart starts beating fast then slow and sometimes stops for a bit then starts again. I usually remain calm when this happens, it usually lasts about 30-45 minutes.

Most of the time when women say this they mean "I get anxious and use this as an excuse to make what is troubling me go away."

I have seen a real panic attack, and it was fucking scary as hell just to watch.

>>134126170
Bitch that ain't a panic attack then fuck you talking about

>>134124670
I get the same thing except it can go four ways- rage, panic, crying, or euphoria. Hard to predict which will happen, sometimes one happens and directly morphs into another

>>134108784
nah man i've been in car crashes and its just a huge adrenaline rush
and then slightly concerning after the crash

unless you reacted differently to the car crash ( which is possible) panic attacks are something so abstract i can only describe as hell

>>134104350
where they spics?

>>134101987
Is she on the pill? The pill fucks with womens heads and causes anxiety and shit. Can't fuck with your hormones and expect no side effects.

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The Peterson / Jung pill was pretty effective in combating anxiety / panic attacks

I'd also recommend the Feeling Good Handbook by burns if you want some tips to immediately start fighting anxiety.

>>134104771
Jesus can fix that.

>>134102878
>Speak in front of your highschool class
>They went to class just to hear what you have to say

>>134101987
>Why does practically every woman ever claim to have anxeity and panic attacks /pol/?
Good question. Every cunt I met while in college has mentioned at some point how they
>can't even
>omg going to have a panic attack
or
>I'm so anxious
What the fuck is wrong with these chicks. Women can't deal with shit.