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http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/342534-gops-repeal-only-plan-quickly-collapses-in-senate
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>>134087181
No profits today
https://archive.is/y4juR
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Next step, full repeal.

Replace later.
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Drumpf BTFO!
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>>134087445
That was full repeal.It already collapsed
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>>134087181
how the fuck are republicans so fucking useless. Seriously. We control the house the senate and the judiciary and nobody is doing anything. Have they actually even voted on 1 fucking bill this year yet?
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APOLOGIZE!!!!!!!
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>>134087181
Is Trump the most useless leader in history?
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>>134087584
I thought this was "repeal and replace"?
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>>134087685
>still thinks republicans arent in the pockets of the rich
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>>134087685
The states that expanded medicaid arent giving up that money
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>Trump attempts to repeal Obamacare
>RINOs and Dems vote to keep it
>can now point to Obamacare failing worse than communism and go "I tried to get rid of this shit" in 2020
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>>134087181
Jesus...how many times did Obamacare pass fail?
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>>134087771
Read the headline.The plan collapsed yesterday and today they couldnt break 40 votes on repeal only
Obamacare is here to stay
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>>134087685
Because they're basically Democrat lite.

Failure theater is their primary operating mode.

>oh gawsh, we sure tried to get it done, but those rascally democrats hoodwinked us again! Send money to our campaigns and elect more republicans and then we'll maybe succeed!
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McCain faked illness like a BOSS!
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>>134087771
That was the aim of the bill that was withdrawn yesterday. They could only lose 2 votes, they lost 4.
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>>134087985
All I can hope for is that they keep trying.
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>>134087181
shes terrible, fuck all rinos
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>>134087985
This wasn't repeal only. It was repeal and delay it 2 years for a replacement
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>>134087685
republican party is fucking garbage where have you been the last 20 years

full of rino globalist cuckolds
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WE NEED TO PRIMARY THESE FAGGOT RINOs
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>>134087997
too bad his surgery didnt end up horribly
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>>134087181
>you didn't repeal it today!!!

Implying it can't be repealed any time between now and forever?

What is the big deal about repealing it RIGHT NOW!!! Like I'd prefer if it was gone without a replacement but it's not like the end of the fucking word of it gets repealed now or in the fall or next year


Why does not veryoje behave like a fucking child
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>>134087931
Lord Hades bringing the bantz.
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>>134087962
It took over a year and the democrats rammed it through without a single reublican vote
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>>134088090
It's essentially the closest you're going to get to "repeal it today," because even the GOP hardliners know that would immediately plunge a fifth of the US economy into chaos.
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>>134088059
>>134088059
Trump just confirmed they are moving on
The jackass had passed nothing at all
>>134088090
If they cant even pass repeal a d delay why wpuld you think they will pass repeal only?
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>>134088397
Yeah why keep wasting time focus on tax reform come back to healthcare when you can make progress
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>>134087181
all fucking talk. republicants passed this bill every other week when obama was pres. now that they can actually pass it they just sit around all day shiting the bed. spineless comatose retards
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Whats the point of having a president when the deep state could just filibuster forever. Actual change would take more then 2 term at this rate.
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Well folks. Almost 7 months in and we have
>A watered down travel ban
>No wall, no talk of wall
>No Repeal and Replace of Obamacare
>No Job growth, in fact, reports of of layoffs.

But at least we have Russia to talk about.
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GOP is full of ifiots, they can't get shit done cause of all the backstabbing RHINOs who are dems in disguise. I don't understand what we are going to be able to do, the RHINOs have hijacked the party worse then Trump and are preventing anything from being passed. You can't even blame this one on Trump, he is ready, it's the dumb fucks in the GOP who won't just man up and work on this.
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>>134088499
Tax reform is also prob not happening.
The senate rulea allowing to pass bills with 50 votes expire in 10 days. They blew their time on this and now they cant pass it in time.
Trumps agenda is in ruins.
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Republicans control every branch of government
Can't pass a single bill

I love watching your party eat itself.
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>>134088714
>Control all 3 branches and can't do anything.
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>>134088565
That's the whole point of #resist.

Make it so nothing can be done for the next 7.5 years until they get power back.
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>>134088595
>No wall, no talk of wall
Being built
>A watered down travel ban
Being implemented
>No Job growth
There is, in fact, job growth
>No Repeal and Replace of Obamacare
This is the only roadblock and, surprise, its not because Trump is ignoring it
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>be a republifag

>elect an old pig who's never maneuvered the levers of legislative government in his life

>surely if anyone can sell their healthcare pitch to his own party it must be this dumb faggot who sold frozen steaks at sharper image and big macs with the grimace

Republicans everyone
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>>134087181
How come he doesn't get impeached even though it was CONFIRMED that he's a traitor to his country?
How come the opposition doesn't storm the streets of DC until he resigns?
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>>134088635

>muh democrats

>muh media

>muh deep state

>muh rinos

How about you faggots look in the mirror and finally realize that you're just dogshit at government
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>>134088959
Drumpf will be executed actually. They have it pretty much planned for 2018
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>campaign on repealing obamacare
>get voted in
>w-we can't just repeal it now
Why are Republicucks such pussies?
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>>134088877
Wall ia not being built. Money is allocated for it in the budget but you will need 60 votes in yhe Senate to pass it and Dems have said they will shut down the gov. to kewp the wall.
The first thing the senate will cut in a compromise session is the wall money.
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>>134089042
>*loses the all three branches of government to the opposition*
>y...you're side is dogshit at governing
as bad as the rep need to go, dems not to go worse.
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>>134088648
A little dramatic considerig it's been 6 months
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>>134088714
The democrats control nothing and are eating themselves

But the republicans colllapsing is also hilarious

I couldnt be happier if both parties collapse and die forever
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>>134087213
thanks based anon
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>>134088888
He was elected precisely because he isn't a lifelong politician

Why is this so hard for you to get?

>>134088959
You don't know what treason is
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>>134089390
Not really considerig he promiswd day one repeal, a mass infrastructure progeam and tax reform hia first year. He has 3 weeks lefr and has passed nothing
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>>134089200
In other words, the democrats are going to make themselves look like pompous morons if they don't agree to the budget and end with a shut down, OR, they admit defeat and just give us the wall.
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>>134089590
The fact he isnt a politican explains why
he cant get a single bill passes
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Trump is a complete failure
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>>134089590
>You don't know what treason is
Selling your country to the communists and/or defending a guy who's doing it?
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>>134089772
I agree with le leaf
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>>134089653
No, the idea of a wall is only polling 30%. The Senate republicans will throw it out.
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>>134089744
You mean a guy who legitimately wants to reform the political sphere in the United States in meeting resistance from the deep state he refuses to be a part of and you're complaining about this? Hmmm...
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>>134089629
I know you are a liberal so you don't understand how things work but trump can only encourage and push so much for congress

As per usually our congress is useless which is a somewhat desperate problem than our dynastic presidential leadership which we managed to end in 2016 thank god.

The best thing we could do for congress is term limits, the healthcare bill isn't getting passed because a bunch of corrupt fuckers in D.C. Don't want to rock the boat and risk that re-election and 800 year old mccain is having emergency old man surgery

Great! All this would be solved with like a 3-4 term limit
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>>134089801
This
But communism is good though
True communism has never been tried
Everything called communism before is farright fascism
Lenin was based though
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>>134087181
Whoa man, I thought he was the best deal maker around?
>>134087760
By far the weakest president in modern history.
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>>134089590

I get it completely, his base is full of fucking retards who conflate institutional knowledge and a working grasp on policy with crooked and bad to the point that they're voting for a failed steak tycoon turned reality television show star and Kid Rock to take care of them.
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>>134089827
>I agree with le leaf
back to autismchan
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>>134089880
Sauce, and that would also guarantee a purging of the old guard
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>>134089744
Yes, and I'm okay with that, I hear conngress has "done nothing" and I'm happy

Doing something is what causes problems

And as >>134089653 said

An outsider threatening to upset the gravy train is meeting resistance

Imagine my shock
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>>134088888
Waste of quints
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>>134089590
Wow, don't you think some experience in politics would be useful IF HE WANTS TO BECOME THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?!?!?!
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>>134089953
>Stalin and Mao authorized the privatization of industries
Lol no
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>>134089918

>legitimately wants to reform the political sphere

In favor of furthering croney capitalism and quid pro quo politics? Sure.
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>>134089801
>Russians are communists?
>Russia is our enemy?
>asking a Russian for dirt on hillary Clinton is helping or enemies

Are you larping as a retard or just an actual retard?
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>>134090183
Nazi
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>>134090237
>groundless accusations
lol
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>>134089947
Cry more bitch faggot.A presodent is supppsed to lead from the bully pulpit but Trump jerks off on Twitter all day.
Trump is a loser and an embarrasment
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>>134090261
Putin has said many times that the fall of the USSR was the worst thing to ever happen. If he had it his way the USSR would still exist.
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>>134090026
>thinks the President controls Congress

you are far too smart to post here. maybe you should try a different site where your knowledge will benefit humanity.
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>>134089953
I think they are going with "Russia is not communist" now.
Which is bullshit, as it's being led by a literal KGB man.
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>>134090305
I agree
Homosexuality is great though
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>>134090026
>it's stupid to not support the plutocratic elite that have been fucking you over for 40 years

You are like those vampire familiars that help the vampires hoping for favor but will receive none
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>>134089947

>dynastic presidential leadership which we managed to end in 2016

Thanks, I forgot Obama came from the long DC lineage of Obamas who have twisted arms and done deals under the table for decades.
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>>134090146
No, "experienced" politicians is our problem
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>>134090305
Lol cant even give me a source to the thing he heard on the Late Show. Cry more faggot, people want Trump and no matter how much you liberals abuse the 4th estate you will never get what you want.
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>>134090305

You are to dense to understand Trump cant control every single congressman
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>>134090237
He is still a rich fucker obviously but he is objectively less corrupt than anyone since jimmy carter

Let that sink in, as corrupt as he is he is less corrupt than anyone in your lifetime.

If that doesn't sound right to you, it's because you haven't been paying attention
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>>134090399
Agreed
Obama is a based people of color person though
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The secret is nobody actually wanted to repeal. They just didn't like obama.
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>>134090134

Or best use of quints ever?
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>>134090305

The presodent also cant wholesale legislation. That congress's job. The only embarasment here is whoever taught you civics and spelling.

Let Obamacare fail and let the record show congressional Republicans tried to fix this fuck show two different ways, but noone was willing to reach a compromise.
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>>134090444
That's fucking retarded.

It's like putting someone who can't cook in charge of running a restaurant kitchen.
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What a fucking loser
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>>134090305
>explaining division of powers is crying

This is why thenleft always leads to dictators, you guys are totally cool with tyranny as long as it's your guy in charge
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>>134090634
Agreed with this anon
But pedophiliaphobia is not ok
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>>134090603
Trump said many times that he's a great deal maker yet he can't even make a deal to get one of his signature promises through congress. He said he would get congress to pass a bill no problem.

Except he doesn't understand how politics works.
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>>134090320
>>134090344

Holy heist since when did thenleft become regan era republicans and McCarthy witch hunters

5 years ago republicans were worried about Russia and the left lambasted them for it

Bernie sanders went on his honeymoon to Moscow
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>ITT: horribly battered leftist redditors, desperate for any victory, pretending like the potus is responsible for matters of congress
This is after 8 years of "omg I hate congress poor Obama wants to make the world better but the stupid obstructionists in congress keep blocking him. It's not his fault!"

Guess what, voters know who's slowing everything down. You're in for big trouble in 2018 if you don't get a real platform.
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>>134088714
60 votes required in the senate and the Kochs own Rand Paul.
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>>134087181
why are they trying to repeal and replace?? just let it play out. if Obamacare implodes so be it.
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>>134088595
Illegal immigration numbers are way down, refugee numbers are down, and deportations are way up, especially of people that wouldn't have been deported in the past.

That's a good thing, these fucking cucks in congress from the GOP are enemy number one right now, they're gonna blow the unprecented national advantage they have right now with the dems being so unfuckingpopular.

We need these GOP cucks out and to replace them with Trumpian nationalist types, but that takes time we really don't have (because with each passing election, the demographics get worse for nationalist types) and a talent pool that isn't really there because Trumpism is a new phenomenon.

Tl;dr, we're basically fucked if the GOP cucks don't start cooperating.
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>>134087181
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>>134090399
Obama was completey entwined in the political class, he is obscure to laymen but how do you describe a nice well spoken black man going from nobody to preside in 10 years?

It's like he was built in a lab for perfect identy politics electability
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>>134090794
>omg I hate congress poor Obama wants to make the world better but the stupid obstructionists in congress keep blocking him. It's not his fault!
/thread
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>>134090634

THIS FUCKING CHEF KEEPS PUTTING TOO MUCH SALT IN OUR FOOD

CLETUS CALL YER COUSIN AT HIS JIFFY LUBE NUMBER AND GET HIM OVER HERE WE GON MAKE THIS KITCHEN GREAT AGAIN
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>>134090518

In most parliamentary systems this would have been a no confidence vote and new elections would be held. Bringing up bills your party doesn't support is a failure of leadership no matter how you slice it.
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>>134087181
That was expected, the point of this is to clean the hands of the republican senators that vote yes while moving on to other things. Those that vote no will be targeted in 2018-20. I wouldn't be surprised if we are stuck with Obamacare for a generation though.
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>>134090789
You know communism and the USSR is bad, right? It's not a witch hunt when Putin's made it painfully obvious that he would like to restore the USSR.

>You live in an age where Republicans defend an ex-KGB agent

Retardation has went full circle, it seems.
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>>134090789

These things happened before Russia invaded and annexed Crimea and deployed a state sponsored assault on US elections, retard. Obama was wrong about them in 2012, Romney was right.
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>>134090634
He was elected to go against the old guard of congress, not become it. If he was a career politician he would have no choice to become a part of it. Lrn2 politics kiddo
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>>134089042
Did you even read my post you stupid Faggot? I am blaming the GOP. But it's not just their fault, dems are literally obstructing every single bill that is introduced or considered. Even Obama had republicans to back him up and he didn't have fucks in his own party trying to discredit and undermine him.

It's not Trumps fault you retard, it's more on Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell and the GOP for promoting they are going to repeal and replace and the shitty neocons are also going against the party and siding with Obamacare.

Its not so simple you stupid nigger. But demoRATS are still to blame for this as well.
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>>134091166
>These things happened before Russia invaded and annexed Crimea and deployed a state sponsored assault on US elections, retard.
>people unironically believe this
An hero
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>>134090634
Nonits not, being a politician requires no specialized knowledge other than basic civics and maybe law a bit.

He reason washigton is "hard to deal with" isn't because our system is super complex and it's not because it takes special skills

It's because people have been in D.C. Building their little beurocratic empires for decades and they have power, in order to pass or do anything you need to appease these little fiefdoms.


Our system was never meant to operate that way it was meant to be small and simple but difficult to pass too much

Now you can't pass anything unless it's and omnibus bill of 1000 pages appeasing the interests of countless corporations and special interests

When a guy like Rand or trump come to town and want to legislate these power blocks plant their feet and make it difficult while saying "see look! You need US, it's too difficult to do on your own"

It's a bit fuckjob game. Always has been. We need to burn the rats out, physically most likely
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>>134090794

He's responsible for using the bully pulpit and closing the deal to his rank and file. He's the ultimate dealmaker, right? So where are those salesman skills getting put to use? Oh right, he's a faggot who should have stayed in his lane pitching Big Macs with the Grimace and hitting up Moscow banks for cheap loans.
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How is Trump to blame for this

Repubs are just being retarded. They had 7 years to come up with an Obamacare replacement and still haven't come up with anything.
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>>134090884
How long would you wait though? I personally know a lot of my friends parents that were small business owners that got anally raped by Obamacare and they were huge Trump supporters because he was going to repeal it. I can't imagine they're going to be too happy if these republicans and Trump spent years talking about repeal and then just shrugged their shoulders.

When you talk about "implosion" that means real people are going to get fucked over, and they're gonna want to know why you didn't stop it when you had the power to.
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>>134089070
>Drumpf will be executed actually. They have it pretty much planned for 2018
high treason is a capital offense

pic related
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>>134091135
You are a fucking idiot Russia today is nothing like the ussr it's closer to pre Marxist Times like 1900
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>>134091487
They passed Obamacare replacement bills through the house like 20 times when Obama was in office (because they knew none of them would become law). As soon as Trump got into office, they couldn't pass anything
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>>134091115
In a parliamentary system Trump would never have been elected because those systems are designed to shut out people who haven't sucked the dicks of other members of their party for years and years you fucking imbecile
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>>134091482
Deals only happen when you have a dialogical environment. Partisanship leads to an anti-dialogical which makes negotiations impossible. in other words, liberal butthurt is dragging down the country
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>>134091487
He said he would get this done if elected
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>>134087685
This God dammit. Dems fucked us with obamacare, and now repubs continue to fuck us with their incompetence. I'm done voting. They all fucking suck hang them all
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>>134091556
He will be executed with a firing squad
Womxn of color will drag his corpse through pride parades in celebrations
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>>134091556
>meme flag

That isn't even remotely treason you faggot shill
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>>134091487
He isn't, liberals and basic bitch republicans forget that Trump is a president and not a dictator. The executive branch can only do so much.
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>>134091299

lmao how the fuck are Democrats obstructing anything when they have no procedural muscle right now? GOP has had the congress since 2010, the argument applied to them.

Republicans are just fucking prat falling over each other and spaghetti coming out of every pocket trying to get their own shit done, Dems are just standing over there in the time out corner.
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>>134091746
I think that will be the ultimate answer

How many systems have actually lasted 300 years without major reform or revolution?

Ours is old and bloated and I think the system is past the point of fixing itself, we probably need the states to rise up and clear washington out, have a convention of states, institute term
Limits and remove some of the bloated federal agencies
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>>134091556
>High treason
>hiring a russian lawyer to investigate Hillary Clinton
Hmmm...
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>>134091919
Because the reublican party isn't and has never been unified


Democrats are much better at being good little soldiers and towing the party line
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>>134091746
Kid Rock is the hero we need. He'll continue the trend of replacing Dems and Neocucks with self-funded nationalists.
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>>134092026

>Democrats are much better at being good little soldiers and towing the party line

This is definitely false.
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>>134091708
Last time I checked Trump has at least 3 and a half years ahead of him

Obama had much larger majorities than Trump and it took him until January 2010 to pass healthcare reform.
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>>134087213
Oh look, all the women won't repeal this crap bbecause abuse it's 'mean' to leave people in uncertainty..
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>>134091919
>two party system
>democrats are irrelevant
You don't actually believe this, do you? Also, the entire campaign people were complaining about how the neocons in the GOP and the Democrats were the same exact party full of bought out career politicians. Just to remind you
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>>134087685
The DNC are Commies, the RNC are by and large Socialist now.
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>>134088959
>CONFIRMED

Proofs? You can't just impeach somebody for taking two scoops, faggot.
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>>134092162
Your party leadership was anti gay marriage in 2013 and now you run around telling white people they are inherently and systemically transphobic

So go kill yourslef please

Republicans have been split between neocons, libertarians, globalist rinos and war Hawlks for decades

Democrats are all just slimeballs who pander to specific identity groups that don't actually care about policy they just like to be told that they are oppressed and that the D's are he answer
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>>134092188
He said immediately, not 3 and a half years later

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/697182075045179392
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>>134087181

I don't blame Trump. All he can do is either sign or veto a bill, really. It's the dumb-ass backstabbing traitorous GOP congress.
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>>134092188
It's nonsens, media ploy to give the perception trump is a disaster just like the Russia stuff

I saw an article about how kushner is "pressing on" despite being "embattled in Russian crisis"

I bet if you go to the whitehouse they aren't "embattled" by the Russia shit they are just going about their daily activities, at most ankoyed.

It's about perception and it's the one thing the dying news media is still very good at
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>>134087706
Bitch has big teeth
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>>134092439
Refaursless of what came out of his dumb mouth it was never up to trump to repeal it on day one, congress wasn't even sworn in and would have to vote on it.

It's Ryan's job to garner that support all trump can promise is that he will sign it if he gets it
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>>134092439
>he said immediately
Obama said "you will get to keep you healthcare plan"
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>>134092188

Uh yeah, because Obama was intimately involved in pitching the details of his healthcare policy to members of congress and the press and they held months of public hearings to iron out the language. Republicans are just trying to patchwork together whatever fucking monstrosity will get them every R vote in the Senate, and Trump sure as hell doesn't know what he wants out of a bill and he's dumb as dogshit on policy anyway. He just wants to sit at the big boy desk and sign it.
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>>134090320
I find it hard to believe that retards like you actually exist. Please tell me you're just a Shareblue shill.

>>134090789
Leftists are pretending to be jingoistic against Russia in order to get nationalists in the alt-right on their side. It's a pretty weak attempt, but I guess DNC shekels will fund any chance at this point. Back in 2008, and 2012, they called Palin and Romney idiotic warmongers for thinking Russia was a threat. This entire "muh Russia" garbage is nothing but DNC/deep state shitflinging to thwart the populist Trump movement.
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>>134087181
>Spend 7 Years Talking about what a disaster obamacancer is.
>Spend 7 years promising a repeal and replacement of Obamacare to supporters
>Pass 60+ bills to repeal obamacare knowing obama would just veto. Cleary just doing it for political points back home.
>Supporters show up and give you the house then the senate and finally the presidency
>No plan.
just legislate my shit up senpai.
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>>134092439
>muh immediately
Congress doesn't work like that. In fact, it doesn't work at all.

But when you are in campaign mode, saying " I'm going to repeal obamacare immediately" sounds much better than "I'm going to repeal obamacare sometime in my term".

And after all, nobody will get mad at Trump if he repeals it on January 2018 f.e.

It's like you democrats are all teenagers. You have no idea about politics. Has Obama closed down Guantanamo yet ?
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>>134092402

>and now you run around telling white people they are inherently and systemically transphobic

Whoa! I do this???
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>>134092687
I didn't vote for Obama. What does he have to do with this?
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>>134092710
Are you implying that it's not the House of Representatives job to create legislation?
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>>134092805
>support people who say this via extreme party partisanshi
>wtf who said i support everything my party does?
>Im not like that!
Sad!
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>>134092666
It's was McConnel's job in the Senate, Ryans' in the House.
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>>134091299

Let's put aside the party lines a moment.

The bill that was put forward was simultaneously too big a change, and too small a change.
For some, it removed things which they saw as directly benefiting their constituents, who had been voicing their disapproval of plans to remove them.
For others, it left intact too many things which they felt had to be removed. They too have been contacted by some of their constituents, demanding that they not support a bill which did not remove those things.

This bill was no grand compromise, no brilliant legislative balancing act to appease the majority of Senators.

Also (bringing back in the party lines now), if the Democrats spent a huge amount of time and effort to bring in their healthcare bill under Obama, you cannot expect them to throw it under the bus to satisfy Republican legislators, especially if the impact on the population is as large as the third-party estimates predict.
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It's big league not bigly you fucking idiots
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>>134092861
A president is a president, not a dictator. What a president ultimately wants is up to congress. Did congress say "immediately" or Trump? When Trump says he would immediately support x measure, it means congress can put it before him and he would approve. Whether that happens is up to muh democracy
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>>134092936
If they let Rand draft the bill it would get the required number of votes instead The GOP are once again fucking themselves for some obamacare lite plan.
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>>134092191
You know who else doesn't like uncertainty? Markets.
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>>134092936
Although you're right, McConnell and Boner/Ryan's Republicunts in Congress had ~8 years to devise a workable repeal + replace solution to O'care. There is no excuse for this BS.
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Cuckolds aren't happy unless they're being humiliated and losing. Republican party is full of cuckolds.
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>>134092804
immediately is Trump's word, not mine
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No wall next :^)
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>>134087181
>'Obamacare-lite' fails
>'repeal without replacement' fails

Soon Medicare For All will be the only option left for them if they truly want to repeal and replace as promised.

In fact, Medicare For All is the ONLY option left for Donald Trump who has promised to cover everyone in the country.
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>How is Trump to blame for this
Maybe by saying "everyone" would be covered by the new healthcare bill, AND premiums would go down AND there would be no cuts to Medicare or Medicaid. The republicans maybe idiots, but they know that what Trump promised his supporters is impossible.
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>>134093070
>What a president ultimately wants is up to congress
*does not wants
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>>134090237
>quid pro quo
>the GOP leadership tried to axe him for months, and there's still a bunch of neocucks that hate him
>every single Jewish-owned TV network and news source (read: 90% of them) is calling him Hitler erryday
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>nada
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>>134093407

>Maybe by saying "everyone" would be covered by the new healthcare bill, AND premiums would go down AND there would be no cuts to Medicare or Medicaid

None of the trumpfags in this thread want to talk about this but these are all hard promises he made for months to crowd after crowd. Don't be salty at us because you bought the snake oil, dipshits.
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>>134087685
The republican party only serves the rich and powerful.

They lied to you for 7 years about obamacare repeal.

They are an opposition party and cannot govern.
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>>134088059
They literally cannot make anything better without pissing off their (((donors)))
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>>134093720
I never believed that. I had just a few specific things I wanted done. Besides, it wasn't my main issue. The congress voted numerous times to repeal it.
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>>134093371
I don't see how anybody could be happy about this, even Dems. Sure, you'll get more free votes if Mexicans are allowed to flood-in; but you'll still get the higher murder rates; and your children (>implying you'll have any) will still live in neo-Venezuela.

Also, the wall construction has already entered the bidding stateg; and it would cost less than 1% of the national budget, so I don't see many obstacles. The only thing in the way is Democucks saying it's "literally the next holocaust" to erect a wall that prevents crime; but Democucks don't control Congress.
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>>134093752
Democrats are for the rich and powerful. Both parties need to have their core representatives purged
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>>134088565
This is all republicans fault. Trump has shown absolutely no leadership on this bill.
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The real beauty of this is that it's just made Obamacare the most popular it's ever been.
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>>134087181
Too bad we can't blame obama anymore. Page 1 of the GOP playbook is gone now. 7 years. 7 fuckin years of dragging feet and being obstructionist cunts and no debates, just yelling OBAMA IS SOCIALIST NIGGER FROM KENYA WHO PRACTICES ISLAM for 7 fuckin years. Now they literally have ALL the power and can't do shit. If you thought america wasn't "great" in 2016, you know who to fuckin blame, the shit GOP. It's time to kick these faggots to the curb
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>>134094127
It is. There's no excuse. The incumbents need to lose in their primaries. (LOL) right.
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>>134094127
>rightists ever supporting the (((neocons)))
No. Also the democrats are currently taking a page from the GOP in saying DRUMPF IS A FASCIST RUSSIAN SHILL ad infinitum with no proof of this beyond his son meeting with a russian lawyer to discuss Hillary Clinton being corrupt for colluding with foreign powers.

This whole system needs to be gassed ASAP
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>>134087181

ARE YOU FUCKING TIRED OF WINNING YET???
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>>134093752
>They are an opposition party and cannot govern.

Republicans are individualistic. We had 2 lolbergs and 2 RINOs who said the bill either cut not enough or too much, repsectively. Dems are just one monolithic hivemind that all cave to the higher-ups. Just look at how Hillary grabbed Bernie by the balls with her superdelagate powers and friends in the DNC eltie.

tl:dr - Republicans have debates and listen to their respective districts, Democrats just tow the SJW zeitgeist based on feelz.

Also, speaking of rich and powerful, it seems like you Dems have pretty-much 90% of the media, Hollywood, and massive social networking giants like Jewgle and Faceberg at your beck and call. You caused millions of millennials to get outraged over 2 scoops, ffs.
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>>134091643
I think the real number is actually over 50
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>>134093671

>Appointed an Honorable Supreme Court Justice

stolen from his predecessor

>Eliminated Job Killing Regulations

oh shit we can't pollute everything to complete pig shit, muh job killing regulations

>Opened First New Coal Mine in Decades

that was already scheduled to open and created 40 jobs, whoopdie shit

>Pulled Out of Job Killing Paris Environmental Accord

see above

>Worked with Congress to Pass 28 New Laws

yeah no

>signed 30 New Executive Orders

2009 = muh tyranny by the pen, 2017 = more is better!

>Has Signed 40 New Bills Into Laws

hooray, I always wanted them to put my browsing history up for sale

>Helped

>Increasing

>This thing will happen soon

hahaha

>Supporting Law Enforcement Agencies

WOW what a concrete and clearly defined resume padder

>Signed "Buy American, Hire American" Initiative

doesn't mean shit, doesn't do anything

>Job Creation Increasing at Incredible Rate

thanks Obama

>Stock Market & The Dow Jones are Booming

thanks Obama

>National Unemployment at 16 Year Low

thanks Obama

>Some States Experiencing Lowest Unemployment in Their History

thanks Obama

what a fucking retarded list
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>>134090789
Mccarthy eas one of the greatest americans to ever live, and was 100% right about everything you aids-ridden mong.

Watch stefan moleyneuxs video on it. He was one of the original anti-deep statists, and was relentlessly attacked by the media, probably as much as Trump if not more.
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>>134087181
Remember all the democrats singing goodbye during the house vote? I guess their dream isn't happening anymore and people will continue to use obamacare against dems in 2018 rather than reverse.
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>>134094598
>reddit spacing
>essentially just accuses everything that happened under Trump as being stolen from Obama (somehow)
Go back to your liberal echo chamber pls
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>>134094598
Get the fuck off my board reddit scum
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>>134094600
J. Edgar Hoover too. He tried to warn people in his book "Masters of Deceit."
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>>134087931

Trump himself called the original replace bill "mean." He was out fucking golfing, not trying to get any of this shit passed.

He'll sign anything, he's not going to bother actually getting involved in hard work though. They're go-to play is to call in Senators and Congressmen and try to bully them like CEOs do. That doesn't work in politics. Half these guys will still be in Congress when Trump is in the grave.
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>tfw you realize republican slogans are just a meme
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>>134094076
Democrats at least make the effort to act like they care about the environment, education, the middle class, people having health care, ect.

Republicans crafted a terrible bill that only an insurance company CEO would like.

Dems are the lesser of the two evils when it comes to corporate influence.
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>>134094767

>double spacing didn't exist before reddit
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>>134094514
>Republicans have debates and listen to their respective districts

Then did they try to kill obamacare with a bill that had like 20% approval? And why do they now just not do townhalls anymore because the public is so angry at their attempts to take healthcare away?
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>>134094848
>tfw you realize liberals from leddit are raiding because of the 1 post OP's and inability to understand how a chan functions
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>>134087880

And they're all dirt poor Red States with their white people dying of opioid abuse and mental illness.
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>>134094982
You mean Soros' paid crowd of hecklers?
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>>134094956
You realize how fucking unreadable that makes your comment? Stop doing this shit, you're shitting up the board for everyone else
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>>134091919
You must be a underage Faggot or a complete idiot.

Either way you got me to reply so I will try my best to explain but you are clearly a absolute retard

While the GOP has been in congress they still need to either have votes from both parties which INCLUDES democrats or have 60 votes from their party. Because there is no term limits the neocons HAVE been in power for a long time like McCain and are going against Trump and leaning towards what the dems want. This is the fault of the GOP I was referring too and this a issue with republicans who have been talking about this since Obama was in. Now the issue with democrats is that literally 0 of them are getting behind anything Trump of the party considers and are obstructing worse then the republicans with Obama. It was childish then and it's childish now but because the dems keep lying about the shit in the bills their entire party is getting behind this bullshit.

The dems do not own majority but with the fighting and division in the GOP they are taking advantage by not supporting anything, that's ALL democrats. This means the republicans HAVE to get all majority votes from their side but with the RHINOs and neocons are causing the GOP to never reach their goal.

Trump is ready to sign this shit but since their is more resistance then when Obamacare passed it continues to fail from Dem obstruction or GOP unable to make to agree on something. Even when trump meets and has dinner or speaks to congress they still are trying to look good and not be the person who made the call for repealing Obamacare in fear of hurting face. But I'm the end it's hurting everyone and it's at the point where they have no choice but to move on and just let Obamacare fail. This means dems are basically obstructing until our healthcare is completely and utterly fucked.


Its the fault of dems and reps in congress not Trump.


Also pic related.
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>>134094908
Go back to plebbit faggot.
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>>134094988
>muh special clubhouse
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>>134095107

Hahaha get

mad

more

you

angry

faggot
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>>134094514
I agree that SJW's are fucking retards, but the republicans passed a repeal bill over 50 times while Obama was president. That was all an act. They know they can't write anything better. And they know that Obamacare is better that what we had before.
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>>134094598
>stolen from his predecessor

Stopped reading you can't steal Supreme Court nominees, not nominating somone until after the election is a political strategy and a smart one

It's not fucking stealing you daft cunt
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>>134095107
FYI: You're arguing with a shill about spacing. Probably a paid one too.
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>>134094598
>it was stolen from obabo
>it is meanie policies

KYS
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>>134088248

You can't just repeal something that has such an important bearing on the entire US economy. You would collapse the entire insurance market, which would probably lead to its death.

Even the repeal bill they tried to pass gave insurance and healthcare industry 2 years to scramble.

Obamacare is here to stay. If GOP leaves it alone, states will improve it on their own.
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>>134094908
>still falling for the GOP vs Demcuck dichotomy where you think only in terms of partisanships rather than results
Democrats don't care about the environment, they care about making people think they care about the environment while they support ad infinitum population growth and "green" energy sources that end up causing worse pollution in the manufacturing of said sources than just burning coal. Democrats and republicans are a part of the same political party controlled by big money, the only difference is which oligarchs funds which party.
>>134094956
Not on the chans, and not like you just did kiddo. Lurkmoar
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Republicans were only attacking Obamacare because Obama was black.
It's a republican healthcare plan from the start, ie Romneycare.

Only a stupid drumpfster can't figure out the game.
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>>134087213
Only profits for RT and other russian outlets, amirite you fucking shill?
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>>134094908
God you are a child if you think anyone in D.C. Does anything except pandering to grouped for votes and support.

If it was popular to dump nuclear waste down the throats of African children that would be what both parties would run on
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>>134095171
Trump didn't feel the need to educate himself on healthcare. Trump didn't know what was in any of these bills.

Obama busted ass trying to get his bill passed. And it worked.

I thought republicans were the ones who valued hard work???
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>>134094982
>the public is so angry at their attempts to take healthcare away?

1.) Literally who? The majority of the middle-class got their premiums increased to pay for your pet Tyrones and Juans.

2.) Republicans don't go to townhalls in downtown Seattle (where fucktards think Obamacare is good) because they don't get elected there.

3.) The 2 lobergs came from lolberg districts. The 2 RINOs came from northern cuck districts. My statement is correct.
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>>134095328
>not nominating somone until after the election is a political strategy and a smart one

By that logic Trump shouldn't be allowed to nominate anyone because he's literally already campaigning for 2020.
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feadfa
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>>134088314
>ram it through
After they bent over backwards for the Republicans can stupidly kept taking their amendments.

The irony is Obamacare 'exploding' is the fault of the Republicans because they are refusing to handle resurance for insurance companies and intentionally not telling insurance companies the plans or if they intend to subsidize markets, which is why you see premiums on the rise and companies pulling out of marketplaces. It's all part of an intentional plan to sabotage the marketplace.

Amusingly enough if the Republicans just blew up Obamacare right now, we'd see a premiums increase of 25%, 50% next year and at least a 100% increase every following year. That's the reason you're seeing the 'moderate' Republicans balk at a straight repeal because they know it would be electoral suicide.
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>>134087213
BASED
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>>134087181
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Looks like we won't be able to count on any kind of reliable health care plan any time soon. Only one thing left to do.
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>>134095471
>racist meme
Wrong.

>Romneycare
Massachusetts isn't a typical Republican state. lol.
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>>134088565
Baaaawwwwww I can't get what I want done so I have to keep changing the law.
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>>134094792
The FBI was basically the only government agency that wasn't fully infiltrated and controlled by commies (though they still had people spying on them). That's why the FBI got raped of their power later on. They were desperately trying to fight off the commies, and were basically putting a check on the state department and president.

A bunch of retarded women constantly taught us in school how awful mccarthy was, and not a word of it was true. Basically anything you learn about history in public schools is wrong.
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>>134095471
>Republicans were only attacking Obamacare because Obama was black.
First of all, why are you replying to no one put making general posts to the whole thread. Second of all, Republicans are Christians who adopt ethiopian babies and support Israel who protect the concept of the melting pot as if it were the word of God. If you're took much of an idiot to realzie this, go back to /r/anarchy and think about it for awhile.
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>>134087584
>collapse
i keep seeing this word in most of the articles
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>>134095537
Dems at least can keep up the illusion, pass legislation, and fulfill their campaign promises.
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>>134095417

You won't "crash the market" but it's simply another reason why you don't let the government get involved in this shit

Our health system was literally fine before 2010 all of this rigamoral for a few million poor retards who couldn't afford 90$ a month for insurance

Fuckign disgusting senpai
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>>134087181
lol
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>>134090146
Oh, you mean Obama?
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>>134095621
Is that the transcript from the Rachel Maddow Show last night?
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>>134087181
now democrats will be to blame when this shit collapses
this is good
Trump only wanted to do what was right even tho it was unpopular
tl;dr
who gives a fuck?
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>>134094090
desu this was part of trumps platform but it's one issue that I feel like he has less enthusiasm for. It doesn't surprise me that he didn't put in full high energy
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does donald succ
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>>134095471
If it was called Gorecare, or Clintoncare, or (((Schumer)))care, or TheRockcare it would still suck ass.
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>>134089653
Just like how the republicans literally did the same thing and it had no effect what so ever. In fact, you gained seats in both houses during the government shutdown. The opposite is likely to happen.
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>>134095582
No, by that logic if the democrats could stop trump from nominating anyone until 2020 they should and would be right to do so.
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>>134088826
No. That's for mumbling bumbling retards that have long since been runover. This is the GOP being selfish and catering to the Deep State.
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>>134095825
Now you are just being a foolish hack

If you think 8 year sure of democrat power under obama was any different than the bush years you are fooling yourself
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>>134087181
That's because it was a a horrible bill to begin with, O-Care Lite. Unless inusrance companies are booted out of healthcare, there's no meaningful change.
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>>134088595
4 liberal falsehoods that will doom them for the next 7 years minimum.
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>>134095825
>and fulfill their campaign promises.
for the entirety of Obama's presidency you were complaining about how he couldn't get anything done because of the GOP in Congress and now suddenly democrats have done nothing - and everything - at the same time? You ledditors need to work on your inability to understand partisanship, this is getting bad.
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>>134095565
Fucking retard I just explained how this is nothing to do with Trump please kill yourself to help improve the world's IQ
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>>134095427
I am not saying dems are free from criticism. I am just saying Republicans don't even try to hide how corrupt they are.

They passed their bill 50 fucking times while obama was president?

What the fuck happened?
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>>134095621
>the republicans aren't helping the democrat plan they don't like, thus it is their fault
>good republicans should go along with the plan they don't like

The democrats are somehow able to always force the republicans to play on their court with their rules because the republicans are fucking stupid
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the amount of reddit in this thread is reaching critical mass
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>>134095825
it took a second obama term to do anything.
Guantanamo Bay is still open by the way. In fact, Obama added another wing.
That is the polar opposite of keeping a campaign promise, NO?
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FUCK MCCONNELL

FUCK GRAHM

FUCK MCCAIN

FUCK THEM ALL
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>>134095686
Tell me about. I read "Master's of Deceit" years ago and couldn't believe how he had everything spelled out. This was in the 1950s, and a lot of it still applies today.
They were heroes, and were vilified for it by the (((usual suspects)))
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>>134096181
>I am just saying Republicans don't even try to hide how corrupt they are.
Yet Democrats somehow do? Really? You want to go down that road?
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>>134096122
>Unless inusrance companies are booted out of healthcare, there's no meaningful change.
First intelligent post on /pol/ this year.
Add to that stopping big pharma's pricing and there's the solution.
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>>134088530

It was ceremonial so they could run on it in the election and their rube voter base believed them.
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>>134095710
I've seen tons of normie newfags come to /pol/ assuming we're all neocucks like Jeb. I guess they only right-wingers they're used to arguing with are their boomer relatives on Faceberg.

Many leftist media outlets joked that they wish Jeb would have won, because neocucks are a lot easier to push-around than nationalists.
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>>134087181

This is like the House Bill all over again.

Spineless cowards in the GOP. A full fucking lot of RINOs.

"waiting for the collapse is stupid."

I hate how they're trying to buy time to make up their minds.

They've fun on repealing Obamacare for the longest time. They have power and they do jack shit.

It's like the Democrats still have the House and Senate.

Shame on them. Fucking traitors.

These people rather listen to the SJWs and snowflakes over the people who actually voted them into office.

Fuck Obama
Fuck Democrats
Fuck RINOs
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>>134096430
>he said, once again avoiding actual discussion with people on the thread and retreating back into smug liberal humor
Once again, Sad!
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>>134096540
All right nigger ill give you attention, what the fuck do you want?
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>>134087181
REPUBLICANS FAIL US AGAIN.

I AM NO LONGER A REPUBLICAN, I AM AN INDEPENDENT.

REPUBLICANS OBJECTIVELY DO NOT FUCKING REPRESENT OUR INTERESTS OUR WORK TO HELP US. THEY DON'T DO A GODDAMN THING.

THEY HAVE SQUANDERED ALL OF TRUMP'S ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

THESE PEOPLE NEED TO BE FUCKING DESTROYED AND REMOVED PERMANENTLY.

VOTE OUT EVERY LAST INCUMBENT.
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BUT

HER

EMAILS
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>>134096262
>Get btfo so hard today, cant even muster a coherent shill remark.

Today was a good day when Mercer shills have nothing to say
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>>134089880
>(((Polls)))
>November 2016 The Wall won the election
>Just because you are trying to forget does not mean it didn't happen
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>>134095951
Trump was probably told or believed that the GOP congress actually had a plan.
Now they've been shown to be incompetent.
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>>134096616
i like this dude's idea
overload this retarded thread
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Trump should go scorched Earth now. Nothing lose.

- force a government shutdown
- no tax cuts
- veto anything the cucks send his way
- shame the RINOs into submission
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>>134089590
And that's why he's a huge fucking liability to whatever he gets involve with. He doesn't care about Healthcare or making the lives of people better he just wants a 'win' and to spite Obama because he feels inferior to him.

If you think the Republicans want Trump's help look at what he did in the House. He wheeled and dealed to ram that version through, which is a huge give away to rich, destroyed medicare and throws 24 million people off their health insurance. He holds a beer bash at the White House to celebrate the House passing their version of the bill thinking the Senate would just rubber stamp it. (They didn't.) After the backlash against the Republicans predictably happened, he throws the House Republicans under the bus declaring that the House bill he helped market was 'mean'. Trump might as well have been a democratic operative because of how easily the attack adds can write themselves.

Never mind the fact that Trump lied when he said he wouldn't let the Republicans touch Medicare, now he's cheerleading the gutting of almost a trillion dollars from it just to give it to the rich.

>>134096232
Pathetic strawman, the Democrats attempted multiple times to negotiate with Republicans and still included their input in attempt to be bipartisan in the passage of Obamacare. Republicans have effectively locked out democrats, and also refuse to hold public hearings or have any transparency for how they're crafting the bill.

>>134095924
>Blame the party that has no power.
I guess if your supporters are stupid enough to fall for that, it could work.
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>>134096072
It was better than what we fucking have now.
I just want a president who can fucking read at a college level at this point. I would take Jeb, Cruz, or Pence.
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>>134096655
>get btfo
What are you talking about, we have one ledditor who is spamming random numbers , a few ledditors who after i responded to them retreated back into smug shitposting, and a ledditor from /r/anarchy who is too afraid to engage the thread.

In fact you are doing the same thing as them.
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>>134096126
I understand why the GOP weren't voting yes on anything. I am just saying they have full control now, and realize they don't know what to do on healthcare.
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>The absolute STATE of the American Right
Holy shit this is just pathetic. I'm Fucking howling IRL right now.
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>>134096785
>Blame the party that has no power.
Blame the party that put this shit legislation in place, you retard
ACA STILL belongs to them
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>>134088059

Why do you care? You probably still suckle on mommy and daddy's health care plan. Most of those of us that have health insurance know that the rate of cost increase slowed massively after the ACA passed, and most areas that got fucked did so because republicuck governors refused the medicare expansions out of spite like a bunch of bitches.
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>>134096622
This.
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>>134087685
Republicans own literally everything. They are the government, only cities are still run by liberals. From now on there's no more blaming the democrats.
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>>134096991
>this butthurt faggot
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>>134096914
>I am just saying they have full control now
>they have any control
Congress is a mess, has been since Obama. The Republican party doesn't even have control of itslef let alone Congress, the democrats are in even worse shape than they are. All either side has at this point is in party partisanship and moral crusading that will get the country no where.
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>>134096622
Welcome aboard. I left the 2 party system in '04.
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Get fucked redditkikes
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>>134097075
>republicans own literally everything
Where are all these ledditors coming from? See>>134097132
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>>134097075
Obvious shilling. DNC was given far more corporate money than RNC in the 2016 election, more than half from Jews.
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>>134096785
>Pathetic strawman, the Democrats attempted multiple times to negotiate with Republicans and still included their input in attempt to be bipartisan in the passage of Obamacare. Republicans have effectively locked out democrats, and also refuse to hold public hearings or have any transparency for how they're crafting the bill.
>you have to pass it to see what's in it
>Nancy Pelosi on transparency
GTFO
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>>134096141
Trump made this process 10x harder than it had to be, and if you all had actually elected a political instead of a fucking failed stake salesman you probably would have gotten your repeal,
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>>134097013
To which the blame falls on the party in power for not fixing it blano nemo.

>Obamacare is going to eat the first born of every child in America! Vote for us to stop it!
>We have majority in both chambers of congress and a president who will sign anything no matter how bad.
>We can't even agree among ourselves.
>It's all those evil democrats fault, who have no power
>Let's just sabotage the system further to make sure it does explode instead
HA
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>>134096827
None of that is happening, come back to reality faggot. No one is responding to you, because all T_D faggots have deluded themselves so much people have considered your lot mentally incapable of handling discussion. You fucking read russian media outlets as sources, and now you are looking around wondering why this is happening to you.

>We’re still not clean on this, Chris [Wallace]. If there’s nothing there — and that’s what they tell us, they tell us there’s nothing to this and nothing came of it, there’s a nothingburger, it wasn’t even memorable, didn’t write it down, didn’t tell you about it, because it wasn’t anything so I didn’t even remember it — with a Russian interpreter in the room at Trump Tower? If all of that, why all these lies? Why is it lie after lie after lie? If you clean, come on clean, you know? My grandmother used to say when first we practice to — Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive. The deception, Chris, is mind-boggling. And there are still people who are out there who believe we’re making it up. And one day they’re gonna realize we’re not and look around and go, Where are we, and why are we getting told all these lies? -Shep Smith Fox News

https://www.washingtonpost.com/pb/news/the-fix/wp/2017/07/14/lie-after-lie-after-lie-fox-news-shepard-smith-has-a-cronkite-moment-on-russia/?outputType=accessibility&nid=menu_nav_accessibilityforscreenreader
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>>134097013
Think I'm going to blame the GOP, who failed to get anything done even though they control the House, Senate, and White House and refused to compromise with Democrats on bipartisan reform to amend the ACA for 7 years.
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>>134096141
The majority of Dems on /pol/ are Gen-Z bluepilled retards. They don't care about logical arguments, or how Congress actually functions, just screaming "hurrr, you lost!" like it's a football game.

Remember, these people get their philosophy from Colbert and Current Year Man.
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>>134097339
>The state of politics in the US is due solely to one man
no
>ad hominems are proof of this
no
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>>134087181
Dunno why /pol/ and people in general don't see the issue here. It isn't RINOs or jews causing this.

Democrats pushed this shit through on their own. They effectively gave millions of welfare queens healthcare, but at what cost? There are people actively working multiple jobs, but they still can't afford healthcare because it subsidizing healthcare for the poor. Meanwhile, unemployed people get that shit for free. Democrats set up a lose/lose system simply to remain in power.

Republicans don't repeal OCare? They look weak and ineffective. If they do? Poor faggots will lose healthcare while the middle class can actually afford it once more. Then Dems will use this as attack against Republicans running for reelection. Democrats don't win by helping people, they win by making people RELIANT on democratic policies.
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>>134097290
>Using a meme
>Ignoring the year Obamacare was crafted in public and the 11 different public hearings.
>Republicans have had 0
>Ignoring the fact that democrats added over 100 amendments from Republicans
>Republicans have done 0
>The bill was out there for people to read before it was passed.
>b-b-b-but you have to pass it to read it!
Who needs facts when you have a cartoon frog to worship?
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>>134097362
The bill you have now is a reform, and Dems gave it zero votes. Rand Paul said it was too leftist, and you still won't vote for it.

You're just determined cuck people with that individual mandate/penalty.
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>>134097362
I think I'll blame both parties. Because neither party wants to work with the other when they're in power.
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>>134097357
>literally a massive straw man
Ive never been on T_D you leddit cancer and your quote is essentially saying that because of a russian interpreter in Trump Tower proves that he is a KGB shill. He has always had business with Russians, that doesn't mean he is a Russian shill. Whats even funnier is that you think somehow posting (((Fox News))) which is the media arm of Ruport Murdoch is somehow going to convince me that he is a russian shill becvause I HAVE to be this elaborate strawman you are attacking.

Give me a break
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>>13409733
If you aren't a shill or trolling you are exceptionally dumb. I have known autists who comprehend conversations better, so the world a favor and please kill yourself.
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>>134097447
So how should I interpret this situation? Cause right now the way I see it the Republicans are incompetent liars who misled their base. The only thing they were interested in passing was a handout to the rich. I remember being told that people should just go to the emergency room for health care, and it was okay that people with preexisting conditions could be denied coverage. Is that not the country these legislators want?
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>>134097610
How many pages of SJW BS was it again?
>pass it so people know what's in it.
That's right.
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>>134097352
history will remember democrats birthing this steaming pile of shit

>>134097362
that is literally your prerogative
congratulations Gruber
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>>134097357
>liberals cant into rhetoric
I mean seriously, this is not logos this a direct appeal to ethics based on a priori assertions of guilt. Is this really the manner in which you operate?
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>>134097777
Let Andrew Napolitano explain reality for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQQ9EMfh9lg
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>>134097339
>if you all had actually elected a political

(((politicians))) are the problem.

BTW, you fags elected a SNL actor, (((Al Franken))). As if it wasn't already obvious that you're the party of kike media.

Prepare your anus for Kid Rock.
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>>134087685
Why can't Trump just decide to go 'folks, these guys promised you years of this 'repeal and replace' mess, and with all the winning cards in their hand, they can't even play the damn game. Either they actively don't want to pass what they say they do, as with McCain voting for amnesty or Mitch voting for terrible budgets, or they really are this terrible. Folks, I can only do so much with a mess like this, whether dumb or decietful, it's time to dump the lot of them.' And start actively supporting opposition primary candidates in Republicans who are more Trump-style?

He needs to clean out the party of these clowns.
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>>134088888
Funny how kek has spoken yet this post barely has any replies.
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>>134097886
>Can only resort to memes because he can't refute the main argument over how Democrats pass legislation compared to Republicans.
>Republicans can't even pass shit through reconciliation while Democrats had to hold their entire party together to get 60 votes.
Ha

>>134097958
History will remember the democrats being fucking awful at defending the legislation. The system going to hell is entirely on Republicans because of their sabotaging of the marketplaces by withholding funds and creating uncertainly.
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>>134097339
>failed
>billionaire
What did he mean by this?
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>>134097777
Lucky quads have it.
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>>134097882
>So how should I interpret this situation?
The only way to fix healthcare in this country is to refuse to bail out insurance companies that are buying out the politicians. That will never happen in a democratic process unless the whole of congress is gutted completely. This entire political zeitgeist of welfare capitalism being reinforced by the democrats that you've been indoctrinated into needs to collapse as well. Democrats mislead their base and Republicans mislead their base and they will continue to do so until they are fully dismantled. Healthcare is the least of your problems right now, bud.
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>>134098202
>Passing government legislation = progress.
>More and more government regs taxes etc. = progress.
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>>134098450
Not an arguement
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>>134098000
>he just continues to appeal to random political pundits i have never had an interest in on the basis that i am exactly this stereotypical conservative Other (its a term in existentialism, i don't expect you to understand)
Keep trying buddy, your egocentrism only make me laugh harder. You're not used to being outside of your bubble clearly, kek.
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>>134098450
Sure it is. You just don't get it.
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>>134098659
Mean for >>134098570
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>>134098000
Again, as i keep telling the thread, this is an issue for whatever PAC the Trumps have operated under and does not prove Trump is a Russian shill.
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>>134098218
Yeah thanks to Russian blood money.

I still think if he was really a billionaire he would have released his tax returns.
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>>134087880
fucking welfare faggots, burn them all
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>>134098033
Al Franken can read a fucking book.
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>>134098903
He did release a year of tax returns to troll Rachel Maddow, and you are still operating your political opinions on character assertions (ad hominem). Read moar
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>>russian blood money is how Trump built his business from day one
>muh tax returns
lol
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>>134099194
Meant for this nog >>134098903
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>>134098725
Not for what's currently being discussed. Also a social safety net to make people be free from uncertainty is progress.

You just want to buy into the idea that everything needs to be a survival of the fittest, state of nature everyone for themselves and delude yourself into thinking you'll reach the top of the pyramid when that's always going to be occupied by the people selling you the fool's gold you're clinging too. And they aren't going to let you join them.

Of course you can't refute the original point regarding how democrats legislate in comparison to the republicans.
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>>134098202
>Republicans can't even pass shit through reconciliation while Democrats had to hold their entire party together to get 60 votes.
let's not forget that republicans are currently having to unfuck a democrat diaper

>History will remember the democrats being fucking awful at defending the legislation. The system going to hell is entirely on Republicans because of their sabotaging of the marketplaces by withholding funds and creating uncertainly.
History is going to remember Obama, Obamacare, the globalists and 20 trillion in debt. Not these specific details you and the left conjures up in your heads by conveniently omitting the most basic facts, now fuck off
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>>134099296
And the Republican's current plan is to kill people by withholding medical care, give money to the rich and explode the debt further.

Keep deflecting blame, it won't work.
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>>134099474
>And the Republican's current plan is to kill people by withholding medical care
look who's memeing now.
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>>134099547
>People can't afford medical treatment
What happens after that?
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>>134095621
kys you moron
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>>134099085
Yeah I am not talking about the one random fucking year a long time ago
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>>134091374
That
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>>134087181
trump will let obamacare fail. all he has to do is veto any bill that props it up. by then the democrats will have the house and senate and they'll put forward obamacare as a replacement for obamacare and trump will sign it
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>>134099194
Do you honestly not think he is being propped up by the oligarchs?
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