is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

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>>134086808
>Meanwhile in commie world

>>134086974
Very funny smartass. But that's not a commie store.

There still is something on the shelves.

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>>134086808
>is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

I don't know. Is a man not entitled to eat?

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>>134087430
>>134086974
>>134087066

>>134086808
Not necessarily, no. For example, a man may choose to trade the proverbial sweat for a wage, if he considers the wage to be worth more than the sweat.

>>134086808
>is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
Isnt the city in bioshock libertarian?

Except rich people don't even eat more food than poorfags.

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>>134087902
OK then muh USSR
Im pretty sure no capitalist had citizens selling human body parts for food

The waiter is the Jew

>>134088478
This

>>134087902
>"the breaks don't work on my car"
>WuHhH ThE BrEaKs DoN't WoRk plllpffffff uh uh muh brakes, what are you, a retard?

>un-ironically in favor of 90% tax rate

Keep you filthy commie hands off my brow sweat, thief.

>>134086808
No. Forfeit that sweat.

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>>134088366
Excellent point.

>>134087902
LOL, Venezuela is such a high light of communist/socialist failure that not even this meme works.

>>134086808
What's worse
A greedy capitalist
Or
A state that has godlike powers and owns EVERYTHING?
Under communism, the food on your plate belongs to the state

>>134088796
Fascinatingly, you can be obese and starving.

>>134086808
>le fat capitalist pig meme
gets me everytiem, even tough it should portray a jew to be precise

>>134087902
Nigger, just because it became a meme doesn't mean its not true, I moved to the US when I was 18, wealthy family back there but all their workers beg to get paid in food and not money, the bolivar has no value. Here in the US you get paid as much as you are worth
SOCIALISM/COMMUNISM
DOESN'T
WORK

>>134088171
Extremely, Basically it's all about you reap what you sow, or more accurately when you get there, you keep what you kill.

Not if he explicitly enters a contract with another person. Nothing's stopping anyone from buying up some farmland.

>>134086808
>is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

Not if he's dumb enough to support communism. The collective comes first and the individual can STFU and give all that is asked of them or get gulaged with the rest of the whiny bitches.

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>>134089063
>we wuz starving n sheeeiiit need mo money fo dem programs

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>>134086808
that guy on right looks like all the people i see at work.

>>134086808
He is. A worker provides the owner with labour and the owner provides a worker with means to create and sell his products and service. What's not to like?

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>>134087902
>muh communism is the solution to everything :DDDDD

>>134089357
Fascism isn't an economic system unless you go full Mussolini and even that's not very coherent.

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>>134087902
What is North Korea, What is USSR, what is socialist party of Afghanistan, What is Socialist Party of Lebanon, what is Yugoslavia, what is Cuba, what is Laos, what is Nepal, what is Hungary, what is Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, what is Vietnam, what is Cambodia. I could go on anon, sorry it's been tried and failed

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>>134086808
Hey, who doesn't want to live in a communist shithole, eat potatoes for your entire life, dream of escaping to the capitalist countries, be levied into the Soviet slave army and die as useless cannon fodder? Living the dream

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>>134089274
omg she ate the neighborhood's welfare supplies

>>134088178
>actual women refugees

Still shitskins but I'm glad it's not all fighting age males.

>>134089357
>hur dur muh fascist is best xD
There is a thin line between commies and fascist

>>134087902
during communism we had queues for meats, oranges, bannanas and toilet papers (yes toilet papers too) because there werent enough of any of these and many more. SOCIALISM WORKS I SWEAR

>>134089550
you can apply fascism to anything my friend, including how to treat women

>>134089715
kris go to sleep

>>134088178
Here in the USA we have "crony capitalism" not "free market capitalism"

>>134088424
Cannibalism is cultural appropriation of African culture. Smh

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>>134087066
>>134087430
You realize Venezuela is capitalist right?

>>134086808

Why did the other guy order so little? Is he stupid or what?

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>>134090007
>''B-BUT THAT WASN'T REAL SOCIALISM''

>>134090007
That's the worst meme reversal I've ever seen.

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>>134089816
Deluded fool

>>134087902
You think you can just sweep Venezuela under the rug after a decade and a half of fucking shilling for it before it finally collapsed?
>"MUH VENEZUELA IS AN EXAMPLE OF WORKING SOCIALISM GOYIM JUST LOOK AT IT, IT'S PERFECT, PRAISE CHAVEZ!"
>[collapses]
>"Venezuela wasn't real socialism."

One of these days you'll get what's coming to you, you fucking slimy cretin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8v46pE5-_k

>>134090216
>Private property and the commodification of labor
Textbook definition of capitalism. 70% of the economy is in the private sector

>>134090007
Socialist Democracy*

Nice try tho

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>>134090332
In a commie system the state literally owns everything, how is that power to the people?

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>>134090007
>lets ignore all those times chavez yelled "VENEZUELA SOCIALISTA"

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>>134090007
They nationalized the oil for gimmedats. Not very capitalist.

>>134090332
Funny how you weren't saying this prior to the collapse, socialists were toting Venezuela under Chavez as a success.

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>>134090007
>tries to defend communism
>does nothing but steal material from capitalists, as they've done throughout all of history

>>134090470
This. And everything is owned by cronies of the state so communism is basically feudalism.

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>>134090470
Still don't know what communism is. Here I'll help you out pic related

>>134090545
see
>>134090360
You could call it a social democracy. But it still has a capitalist economic system with government social policies, similar to the Scandinavian countries. The economy collapsed harder with those social policies because oil prices plummeted.

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>>134090965
How does communism prevent sociopathic thugs and bureaucrats from weaseling into the state and getting all the guns? Communism is nothing more than medieval feudalism. There is nothing populist about it.

>>134090007
Venezuela has no private property, and they nationalized their oil. This is not capitalism.

>>134086808
I'm surprised he even got that toast sandwich.

>>134087902
>capitalists always depicted as lazy and fat
>making fun of a system that is so successful there's an overabundance for everyone

Makes me fuckin laff everytiem

>>134089275
>thousands of years of civilisation
capitalism has not been around for thousands of years.

wew.

>>134090273
You seem to mean "best", triggered faggot

>>134087430
All this while American supermarkets are throwing tons of good food in the dumpster.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-why-americans-throw-out-165-billion-in-food-every-year-2016-07-22

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>>134091335
>Government spending as a percentage of GDP in Venezuela in 2007 was 30%, smaller than other capitalist mixed-economies such as France (49%) and Sweden (52%).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Venezuela

https://whitemansturban.wordpress.com/2017/04/25/venezuelas-problem-is-capitalism/

>>134091189
The working class must be armed. Any attempt to infringe on their rights will be met in force.

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>>134091429
Wow we have so much wealth we get fat! Lets end it!

>>134088171
It was essentially a ancap paradise

>>134091335
What it comes down too is elected officials make piss poor businessmen.

I'd rather have cutthroat capitalism than crooked idealogue in charge

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>>134090965
LOL

in what imaginary world do you live where those things are actually true?

socialism removes the individual's incentive to actually work harder and contribute something of value.

without that incentive-based system it all falls apart because no one does jack shit, as they get paid the same either way.

There is no collective empathy of the sort you are hoping for--or it is very basic at best.

>>134087902
muh state capitalism

>>134091739
Indeed wasteful, but more and more stores open up that sells almost out of date food for very low prices to reduce wastefulness.. Don't turn to communism because of it.

https://www.approvedfood.co.uk/

>>134091038
Didn't matter to them before. They weren't allowed to have it.

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>>134086808
>strawman picture
>commie flag
Of course. Commies can't actually argue anything so they strawman. Makes sense.

>>134090965

>capitalism is essentially wasteful: commodities are produced because they can be sold, not because they're needed
>communism is promoted by people that have neither marketable nor necessary skills

Really activates the almonds.

>>134087430
They live in a sparsely populated tropical climate, how hard is it to get some seeds and wander out somewhere and sustenance farm? Anyone not intelligent enough to do that kind of deserves to die IMO.

>>134086974
Really makes you think

>>134086808
As if you've every worked for anything in your life, cunt.

>>134086808
You realize Marx's ideas of urgesellschaft was based on a outdated idea that primitive man lived in commune-like tribes, without a real hierarchy? But we now know that social-sexual dominance hierarchies are natural to primates, including ourselves.

Marx was fundamentally wrong, which is why Communism failed.

>>134092139
Really you'd do better to just sperg out and call it all "kikery", senpai

>>134087902
Did they have to cut back on the font in commieland?

>>134091803
>2007
>wordpress

>>134091705
Its almost like he was talking about socialism you retard.

lol watch these fuckwits try to (keyword try) argue the "finer" points of communism for the next 100 replies. theres gonna be at least 2-3 of them that will regurgitate the same tried and true talking points of promised gibs and infinite wealth ad nausem. Looks like the JIDF gave up on trying to troll us with pictures of black cock and have decided to give it a go with communism.

>>134090007
>country hands out free appliances to people living in free housing paid for by a nationalized oil industry
>lol good nite alt right, thats capitalism

>>134092542
>1 post by this ID
Ohhhh. This is a slide thread.
Saged.

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>>134087902
if capitalists hoarded all the food in the stores they would be replenished faster than they can be hoarded.

Your economic system is clearly inferior, and the evidence continues to mount every time you try it.

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>>134091803
By who? Where are your guns?
Not even ultra violent antifa uses these things

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>>134092417
The hierarchy we have now is not based on meritocracy. Tribal leaders and kings had an incentive to have a strong tribe or kingdom because if they lost it they would lose their power and be executed. Plutocrats are people who are successful at exploiting labor from the working class and whose interests only lie in their own profits. The fact that 8 people have as much wealth as the 50% poorest people of the world is absurd. Capitalism taken to it's logical conclusion is absurdity. It's not about removing every and all hierarchy, it's about removing the preposterous ones.

>>134092104
I'm just saying to dump that food it costs the supermarket money, just to deposit it at the landfill, so why not give it to starving Venezuelans?
That was my point.

>>134090326
>You think you can just sweep Venezuela under the rug after a decade and a half of fucking shilling for it before it finally collapsed?
this. They think we're retards with the memory of goldfish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSIQAKpaR20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foYTNffTdEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfkmkcuO5tc

>>134093039
And giving it to the Jews correct? If we're really going to remove the highest branches in the system we must eliminate the 50% of them that have Jewish roots should we not? What do you suggest we do with them commissar Yarl? Should we gas them? Burn them alive perhaps?

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>>134093021
Liberals =/= leftists
These morons are simply neoliberals who defend capitalism along with the conservatives. They don't even read any theory.

>>134093039
...and how much more money will the poor 50% actually get? After that?
Not very much.

>>134093313
and russian nationalists before the jewish revolution were all of those things except NOT FUCKING ATHEIST COMMIES

>>134093313
You have no guns. Your colleagues have no guns. Your contemoraries despise them. Your political party that you vote for want to ban them.
Your theory has no basis in the real world, never has, never will.

>>134089274
>feed diz lil nigga we don need space n shiiieeeettt

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>>134087902
wow really got us there. gentile commies are the worst

>>134093401
They will be forced to work, and those that dont agree will be shot. The subversive elements will be executed en masse, along with the best and brightest minds in their society. The Jews managed to kill 60 million native Russians when they successfully took over in the 20th century. Communism has and always will be a power grab.

>>134091739
I work retail dipshit. If you want food that could make you sick, food that is rotten, or food with packages ripped wide open (all the while we have fucking birds flying everywhere in the store that keep coming in after we kill them because nobody guards the bay door.).

Why do we throw away so much food? Because it would be hazardous to sell it.

>>134093039

Then what hierarchy do you use to replace the old social hierarchy based on accrued wealth? A hierarchy can only be destroyed with another hierarchy, and only when that one is more palatable to partake in than the previous one.

For example, when a hierarchy based on legal, pro-social means of making money in a typical Capitalist city has the local rich much more wealthy than the local poor, the local poor cannot compete. They abandon that hierarchy and form a new hierarchy based on coercion (violent crime) and illegal means of getting wealthy.

>>134087902
What makes it funny is FOR YEARS Venezuela was the shining jewel of "look see, socialism works! Based Chavez!" for internet commies, now that it's all gone to shit you all go "uh, we never said that! Not real socialism."

>>134093401
In the US there are 3 million homeless people yet 15 million empty homes. This is the inefficiency of capitalism. We have the means to provide necessities for every person in the US. We could probably have everyone only work 20 hour workweeks to provide this. Back when they made the 40 hour work week they were even talking about 30 hour work week but the businessmen railed against it because it would mean less extracted profit from the workers who actually make things. Technology and productivity has increased since then. We have a lot of unemployment and filler jobs that don't provide much wealth. If people want luxuries we could dedicate more work time. Capitalism is inherently inefficient because workers overshoot the amount goods needed. All that wasted work time could be spent enriching society instead of the pockets of capitalists.

>>134093933
Are you saying dead birds can fly?

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>>134090965
>under capitalism, workers only earn what is required for their bottom line needs

People would take you more seriously if you actually tried to refine your outdated theories in course of time, but no..

>>134086808
>is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

He is, which is why taxation is theft.

>>134090965
>IF ITS NOT FULL BLOWN GAY LUXURY SPACE COMMUNISM ITS NOT REAL COMMUNISM

>>134093039
Those 8 people are commies, you dummy. Look into is sometime.

They absolutely have a hard on for collectivism when it involves collectivization of risk. They love regulation too, for they're always able to ensure it ultimately serves as a barrier to competitive entry and privileged subsidies.

They are commies who legitimately believe absolutely everyone is better off when the money is in their hands and they get to dictate what you need.

>>134088796
Food poverty in America manifests in the form of shit-tier foods that are cheap to manufacture and sell. Since the poor cannot afford real foods, i.e. fruits, veggies, lean cut meats, etc. they end up buying assloads of carbohydrates, fillers, flavorings, etc. that do nothing for them. The resulting obesity from eating nothing but 98% carbs all the time is not a shock. Don't even get started on all of the fucking corn syrup used in foods, or how it is subsidized heavily. Cut the fucking crap food out, replace it with real nutrients, and watch the obesity epidemic go away...along with the billions spent on "fighting the problem".

The American public is being "farmed".

>>134094391
>>>/reddit/

>>134094131
Neck yourself you fucking kike.

>>134087902
poofags get out REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>134093652
Notice how he hasn't replied?

>>134094131
Homelessness is mostly linked to mental disorders and not poverty.
I stopped reading after your first sentence as your central premise is flawed.

>>134094131
>I don't understand basic supply and demand: the post

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>>134093039
replace the top half of the chart with rothschilds and you are correct

>>134094131
someone who doesnt earn their keep doesnt deserve to just have it given to them

>>134086808
We both hate capitalists for different reason.
Why not overthrow the international capitalist and bankers together?
They opened the borders and flooded the nation with every third world rapist shit

>>134094401
>Capitalists that are commies
Are they talking about giving up their private property and grabbing a shovel with the rest of us?

>>134094222
No shit worldwide wealth has increased, just in a very unequal distribution. With increased technology and many third worlders working in sweatshops providing all your goods making 2 dollars a day it's logical wealth would be created. However slower than under communism because of the inefficiencies of capitalism and the tendency of money to concentrate in the hands of a few (Jordan Peterson talks about this)

>>134094131
Never breed.

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>>134086974
FPBP

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>>134094065
You're pretty smart for a burger

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>>134094902
Don't worry. He most likely wont.

>>134094879
>(Jordan Peterson talks about this)

He also talks about how communists are abhorrent scum, you should listen.

>>134090965
HAHAHA you do realize chavez was basically giving away the oil to get money for him and his allies and to keep other countries from getting involved with all the crimes against human rights he was doing, after he chavez died (the lucky bastard) oil prices plummeted, as you claimed, which made the goverment take money from somewhere else since oil was the back bone of the goverment. Where did they get this money you might ask? From the people, they took their food they took their energy, they took their water, add another fail to the socialist list. Human kind is not developed enough to live in a communist society, there is no goverment thats not going to steal money if given the chance, not now, not in a thousand years, socialism/communism will not work

>>134089082
How can anyone still be pro (((capitalist)))?
You know who opened our borders, made nationalism a crime, owns. the media that brainwashed the masses. Libertarians and capitalists don't want to look at what they fucked up.
The (((capitalists))) are in charge. Why is a place like /pol/ around? Because we know the west is being destroyed. By a bunch of money hungry kikes.
(((Capitalists))) should all be tortured for everything I mentioned above. Especially destroying the west. Enjoy that trillions of debt goyim. You are part of the Jews debt enslavement. Defend it with your life. The status quo needs you

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>>134094131
>Look at these houses the homeless could have! Theres millions of them!
That retardation aside, what do you do when those 20 hour work weeks come around and anyone making hourly wage is suddenly making half? Or anyone whose salaried getting pay cuts because they cant get shit done. Have you ever had to pay rent? A bill? How much of your pay is taken by our dear uncle sam every week? I get that being socialist/communist the biggest barrier to you spending money is how much you can sneak out of moms purse but most of us have to earn that. Most people who have gotten used to earning their shit wont take kindly to getting a bigger hit to their paychecks for people who just laze about whining they deserve more for existing. This is a serious question, what do you do for a living that makes communism seem even remotely palatable?

>>134094131
Ever spoke to a homeless man before?

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>>134094652
Sure many homeless people are mentally ill but many we're fired by Mr. Shekelblatt and couldn't find another job in time. Many veterans who fought in Vietnam against the ebil gommies came home with blown off limbs and PSTD and have been completely abandoned by the system. No money? Tough luck says the (((capitalist))) and (((landlord))). Guess they fought for the wrong side huh?

>>134094742
>Why not overthrow the international capitalist and bankers together?
I'm ok with this. We both fight for the working class after all

>>134087902
>not real communism

every time

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>>134086808
There was a system where people got what they put in, fuck you commies.

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>>134095886
New Anti-Commie Thread

>>134086808
so, porky is the union leader?

If you're a communist start pointing out capitalist crimes to a right winger from their perspective. Say they opened the borders to mass third world immigration
Say a small jewish clique owns all msm
Say the corporations shilled to get diversity to become a thing
Capitalists want diverse workers and not white workers
Blacked is a great invention of capitalism
You could go on and on.
The enslavement of their children through debt

Make capitalist defend what they have done to the west
They made us rich but this isn't our country anymore.

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>>134094879
>However slower than under communism

... are you for real? Closest we came to REAL communism was war communism in Russia, and shit was going to hell in a handbasket with a very quick pace

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>>134096087
That's an amazing meme, my friend!

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>>134094131
>i live in a post-communist country, in a world where 1st world fuckwits think like this

you have zero idea, buddy. zero. i won't even explain why

>>134086808
No one is entitled or guaranteed anything.

>>134095689
The reason they couldn't find and hold down a job is because of mental illness.

>>134088424
>pic related
shit happens in war fampai

>>134096938
still not an argument against communism

>>134094131
>In the US there are 3 million homeless people yet 15 million empty homes. This is the inefficiency of capitalism.
>giving resources to people who will produce net losses with those resources is efficient

>>134086808
He isnt under communism, private property is banned. Youre a total joke, and you dont believe in objective truth. Your counter argument is therefore already rendered irrelevant and meaningless.

National Socialism also solves the capitalism problem without banning private property. I win.

sage

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>>134086974
sage