Why are Russians so ready to swallow every conspiracy theory

>>134085054
then who was BUK-M1?

russians arent alone in that department freindo

>>134085054
Why do you think so?

>>134085309
this desu

>>134085054
Slavs have nigger tier IQ

Because for every 1 made-up propaganda piece there are 99 other pieces that tell the truth of how the world really works

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-16/how-finland-preparing-russian-invasion
Finland building tunnels to prepare for war with ruskies, tunnels built in fifties sure are relevant today!

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>>134085054
USSR (and its successor Russia) and the USA went overboard with propaganda, so now their populations will believe anything.
These two states hold the most gullible, moronic general population.

>>134086275
this

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>russia still doesn't admit it was one of their missiles
>they insist on passing the BUK

>>134087257
Why do russians love this chicken meme? What's it's backstory?

>>134087533

combine that with their pride and general irrelavance as a country and you get a nation that's much worse than the US

>>134085054

I only like Russians because they are White and hate Jews and degenerates.

On all other parameters they are lesser than us.

Our government is equally shady on this matter desu

>>134088764
Origin is Russians asking for proof for obviously verifiable things and then saying "NOT GOOD ENOUGH, NOT PROOF, RUSSIA STRON".

It's usually meant to mock Russia.

>>134085054
what? they have BUK-M2 now.

>>134089002
Basically, yes.

USA:
>easily lied to
>arrogant as fuck
>relevant

Russia:
>easily lied to
>arrogant as fuck
>irrelevant

Russia is a military giant and an economical dwarf, and desperately needs China (military dwarf, economical giant) to support her.
The USA government, if they have any wit, will play on this and try to get them to become opponents, perhaps by appearing to ally Russia so that China feels threatened and cuts raw mineral and fuel deals or something.

>>134088764
some autastic hohol on kchan single handedly created the proofster

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>>134085054
>their government-run media spoon feeds them?
wew

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Pol makes me fucking puke with how friendly they are to Russian kikery. Fucking disgusting. I can't wait for Russia to collapse, again. I will cum buckets when Russia is ded.

>>134089012

on what parameters we are lesser, than fucking DANE

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>>134089012
They hate Jews? Hahahaha you are retarded they protect the Jews more than any other country be cause they are Jews! You literal retards!

>>134089012
>Russia
>Hate Jews
stop embarrassing our flag please
most of the richest people in Russia are Jews

Wow. Yet another made up scenario regarding MH17 by Russia. You guys remember that photoshopped plane on a Google Eart sat image Russia published?

>>134089012
>hates Jews
>somehow Jews still end up owning your nation

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_people_by_net_worth

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>>134085054
Why are Americans so ready to swallow every conspiracy theory their government-run media spoon feeds them?

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>>134089899

>shelom
>actually means helmet in russian
>rrrreee jews everywhere

keep trying cleetus

>>134085054
For exactly the same reasons most /pol/ inhabitants believed in a conspiracy run out of a pizza parlor that didn't have a basement.

>>134089500
Or just ally Russia because asians are the real enemy anyways. Arabs and Persians are not even the enemies either their they should stay in the desert though.

>>134089899
Not that I support the "Russia hates jews" meme, but you are citing a madwoman who claimed Putin is her long lost secret son, and is only taken seriously by arab terrorist groups.

Just saying.

>>134090062
Nice taqiya there Ahmed. You muslim kike loving faggot. I will be the first to sign up for a war with Russia you weak faggot.

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>>134090222

>You muslim kike loving faggot

what a delusional fag

>I will be the first to sign up for a war with Russia you weak faggot

have a good time to die from hamma-rays

back in the 80's, Russia told its people that potatoes weren't growing any more because america was conducting biological warfare on them by dropping (completely fictitious) Colorado bugs on their crops.

A pastime for Russian children included going out into the fields to find these super bugs.

But they never found any.. because their were no bugs.

>>134090104
>most reddit transplants believed
ftfy

these are the same people who think clinton is an ebil nazzy

>>134090052
The government plays on peoples fears. Russia is an expansive power as it always has been and always will be. We need to direct their expansion away from europe back into china.

>>134088764
>Why do russians love this chicken meme? What's it's backstory?
It's used to disregard people asking for actual, factual evidence.

It isn't so common at /pol/ because Ukrainian IPs are mostly banned.

>>134090493
cont'd there are still Russians alive today that believe this actually happened... despite all of the evidence to the contrary.

This is the kind of shit the government can feed you when there is no free press.

>>134090493

>this is WHAT americans really believe

i`m not even surprised

>>134085054
they are not
the russian government wants to undermine the average russian's trust in truth, not to feed them a specific lie

>>134085054
but it wasn't a BUK it was shot down by an Su-25! RT said so last year. The Russian government did tests showing proofs!

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>>134091095

>>134085054
>he said without a hint of irony or self-awareness
burger pls

>>134088764
Because no matter how much evidence is provided there is never enough proofs to prove that there are Russians fighting in Eastern Ukraine.

>>134091601
Define 'Russians'. Merenaries? Military?

Has anyone turned on the TV too see what their MSM has been spoon feeding them?

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>>134091095
>>134091220

You've got it wrong! It was a ukrop Su-27 as shown on this totally legitimate satellite image, don't you remember?

>>134085054
you could ask that about every country. around 90% of the people of any country are just sheeple

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>>134091908

Better quality proofs.

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>>134085160
Russia. They still use them and they were spotted using them when they were massing troops in the border region.

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>>134088764
This is a good sum up: >>134089263 only to add, a rooster is the name for the lowest status in a russian prision, usually the guy that has to sleep next to the toilet, while always fearing to get beaten up or raped, while no one cares about this. Also the rooster is mocking the russian national bird.
What we could see endlessly in the ukraine conflict from russians you can see in picture related.

>>134089503
Techincally russians created it with their hypocrite and biased actions over month, this is just the well deserved backlash. This meme would not have been possible with their repitive vatnik behaviour.

>>134090657
>It's used to disregard people asking for actual, factual evidence.
Which are asked for on a level of absurdness to begin with.
Which will be ignore or ridiculed when actually provided.
Which are only asked for to get a position on fake moral high ground.
...
Or to give the short version: russians doing this never actually wanted the evidence, since they actually all new it was true, all they wanted to do was waste the time of others and create a vibe of uncertainity around things.

>It isn't so common at /pol/ because Ukrainian IPs are mostly banned.
It was quite common here, but /pol/ is quite forgetful in those regards, specially with all the russian shills around like you, who constantly try to revionism everything.

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>>134091771
A combination of mericaries, volenteers and Russian troops. Also inclues whole Russian units with Russian vehicles.

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>>134090052
A lot of it seems to be appeals to emotion. They know that the MSM has lied to them many times, including with what got us into the Iraq War, but they tug on the heartstrings.

>>134091771
The soldiers wearing unmarked uniforms?

>>134091095
I know you mean it ironically, but since people actually are dumb enough to believe RT and their weekly changing story for MH17, lets have the latest conclussion that can be considered real:
It was shot down by the russian BUK3_2, which was photographed and filmed on different occasions, from its way from the russian Kursk military base to russian rebels held territory in ukraine. One day after MH17 was shot down it again was filmed and photographed rushing back to russian border, with one missle missing on the launcher, only to be never seen again after this. Since it is the standard russian shill response: No this BUK is not the ukraine BUK312, which photo was used wrong ONCE, but is still tried to used as fake evidence, both BUKs had been photographed at different locations, have different damages, the number tags are different and are not the same.

>>134091771
You know the stuff that would be totaly obvious for you the second it wasnt about russians. You probaly would even get into an autistic rage, when someone would question it like you just did.

>>134089012
>Get rekt by Muslim Chechens in their own cities
>Moscow has a bazillon Muslims
>Laws against Islamophobia

>>134093214
This.
We meme about the Russians because they come across as tough, but this is the real course of events.

Of course, MH-17 probably wasn't directly downed by higher command. Most likely, it was an unofficial Russian mercenary outfit acting on their own.

Of course, "unofficial" and "mercenary" aren't the proper terms.
As is everything in Russia they're actually secretly contracted out by the Russian government, under the assumption that they will pretend to be independent while still fighting for Putin.

>>134091095
I thoughed it was shot by a Buk, being carried by an Su-25 wich in term was being carried by an Su-27 piloted by Yatsenyuk himself

>>134090810
he's right, it was before the 80s though. Russian agriculture was as utterly incompetent as every other Russian endeavor.

>>134085160
there are many different modifications of the same AA system, some of them aren't even fit to fire certain type of ammo, this is where russian raport comming from

can't find the link, but tests of the developer and producer of BUK AA system Almaz-Antey claimed that ammo used on MH17 was an outdated version of BUK which decomission from russian forces since 1999, while many other nations still use it ukraine is one of them

this is whet russian was trying to say all along, that rebels just stole it from ukies

weeks before shoting down that airliner, rebels crippled ukie airforce to the point, that they refused to send more airplaines in the zone

and if you gonna say that rebels are just russian army regulars, you are clueless, since most of the rebels are volonteers 35+ old reservists with good old soviet army training

>>134094197
Just an anecdote, a colleague from Ukraine posted a Russian bragging online about shooting down what he thought was an enemy plane, and then deleting the post after the story came out. The "fog of war"!

>>134094197
>>BUK which decomission from russian forces since 1999

what makes you think they destroyed all of them? ofc they would send some undocumented AA into a proxy war.

>>134095569
was meant for:
>>134095079

>>134085054
Projecting a bit, amerimutt?

>>134090810
Kek, but it's true comrade

>>134095569
i am not official of russian goverment, but why wouldn't you just sell off all of your decomissioned old hardware? why let it rot?
russians do it all the time - putch it up and sell to sandniggers

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>>134090222
Of course a mutt would be the first to sign up to kill more whites now that you've purged almost all on your continent. Kys, subhuman nigger.

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>>134095079
>this is whet russian was trying to say all along, that rebels just stole it from ukies

no, they first said Ukrainian warplane shot it down
then they said a buk from the Ukrainian side to drag the US into the war

there is video and the route of the buk missiles system is pretty well documented showing how it moved from the russian border and back into Russia.

>>134085054
>implying Americans don't swallow anything the Russians feed them too

Where the fuck do you think you are? The people here have been completely brainwashed by the Russian internet propaganda campaign here.

>>134095961
So they got shitload of stockpiles of old stuff including thousands of tanks, but this stuff right there of course had to be sold and of course not just some of it, all of course. Seriously how you even get that idea beside constructing it only around a pro russian arguement?

>>134095961
Bruh have you seen the state of the Russian military.
They can't afford to scrap anything.
Of course they still have BUK missile systems.

>>134095079
>rebels
stopped reading there

>>134095961
to use it for such cases? Us is doing the same handing out its old hardware to the groups fighting their proxy wars in the middle east.

Or why do you think everyone in Syria runs around with TOW missiles?

>>134096164
first of all, russians could not answer for actions of rebels

second, watch that video again and take notes of all the places that BUK was sighted in then compare with your map and triangulate with place of the accident

Kursk was never mentioned there and lies nowhere near that location

but sure, let believe all anti russian (((hysteria))) and completelly ignore reason and facts

keep digging, don't be a gulible goy

>>134096635
>rebels
The rebels aren't actually rebels.
That's the first hard thing to come to terms with.
Everyone gets paid off in Russia. Whether for, or against, everyone gets paid off to do shit. Altruism is practically non-existent.
Then against, what would you expect of a people oppressed by Communism for nearly a century?

>>134096908
>against
fuck, my fingers betray me
*again

>>134096164
>silly hans so hysterical & chimping out about le ebil russkies while sandmonkeys are raping his country's women by droves
Top kek, stay cucked. I hope you'll also enlist voluntarily to take the fight to Ivan himself to protect the rights of Achmed to enrich your wife while you're away, goy.

>>134096438
how would you call them, my plebbit 12 year old friend?

>>134096505
dude, i am not talking about WHOLE AA system EVER produced

i am talking about a specific modification of that system, like Panzer III Ausf. F used as long as in Six day war (on jew side)

>>134097051
>how would you call them, my plebbit 12 year old friend?
Boopyжённыe Cи́лы Poccи́йcкoй Фeдepáции

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>>134085054
Russians got very, very good at propaganda during USSR times. Their techniques are still being researched and understood to this day. In fact I think no one is as good as Russia when it comes to propaganda, they went above and beyond simple stuff like posters and movies. You can find evidence on this very board. There are people here who think Russia is some idealized Christian white country that fights jews and Muslims and bans gay people. Of course everybody has an idealized meme version of countries they never visited (I assume Russians think Texas is like a cowboy movie) but the difference is that it goes beyond making a positive image about Russia. It leaks into a person's other beliefs, like how Russia was justified in their part in Ukraine, Georgian War, how Russia never involved itself in any cyber espionage ever, or how Russians are supporting Christian-loving Muslims in Syria and US is supporting nothing but terrorists, even the Kurds are terrorists, everyone's a terrorist if they're not on Russia's side.

It's actually very interesting how they operate. Pic related is a good book that describes the gist of it. They will sprinkle hard undeniable truths in a statement ("Russia NEVER directly invaded Ukraine") and mix it up with half-truths or plain lies ("The men in Crimea were simply local militia who bought all their gear online"). If you attack them on this, they go for the source of your information ("Where did you learn that, CNN?) and present an alternative perspective with an "unbiased" source.

America should really learn the way Russians do it. We can probably convince half the world to stop hating us.

>>134096975
you know that Russians sent us the Syrian refugees with their shitty civil war in Syria which is going on for 7 years now?

they using them as a weapon and their propaganda machinery is making sure that every incident is international news to rile up the far right and provoke a civil war.

>>134097257
ok thx for confirming your autism to everyone here

>>134097558
no,no, thank you for make me post that

>>134085054
Because Russians are spineless cucks. They prefer being sheep ane being led by a dictator, its their post soviet cuck stockholm syndrome heritage

>>134097383
Nobody gives a shit about the events you listed. They only like Russia because it seems they stand up against United States and the global cabal.

>>134097383
Russia is an expansive empire like i said. Thats all you need to know dont believe what anyone says just look what people are doing. If Russia is in Ukraine they are expanding. If Russia took Crimea they are expanding. If Russia is in Syria they are again expanding. Thats it. The difference between the Russian empire and the USA empire is the USA expands with democracy and military bases for concessions. We obviously have the superior system over Russians no question.

>>134097383
also interesting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVkkLDAm8I4

>>134085054
>asking as american
kek

>>134089570
>litreally just showing respect in a country you are visting
>HE IS A FUCKIN KIKE REEEEEEE
wat

>>134096164
>no, they first said Ukrainian warplane shot it down
>then they said a buk from the Ukrainian side to drag the US into the war
Which is the standard russian propaganda attempt you can see about everything they dont like: they spin so many different stories that the average Joe simply cant tell which one is most likely true and the real version simply gets under in all the pro russian versions.

What ukraine and the west said:
>an anti air system, most likely a BUK, shot down the civilian Airliner MH17 (by accident) from rebel held territory

The clusterfuck we could hear from russians, their propaganda outlets and their useful idiots:
>it got shot down by an ukraine SU-25 with a missle and ONLY a missle, nothing else
>it got shot down by an ukraine SU-25 with its autcannon and only its autocannon, nothing else
>it got shot down by an ukraine SU-25 with its autcannon and a missle
>the ukraine SU-25 was flying near the airliner and flew behind it when it got attacked by a missle, which then hit the civilian airliner
Note to all above: The constructor of the SU-25 said that the plane cant reach the hight and the speed for the things above.
>it got shot down by a ukraine BUK from ukraine held territory
>it got shot down by a ukraine BUK that was sent to the direct front line
>it got shot down by a ukraine BUK that scooped deep into rebel held territory and shot the airliner from there
>the plane was hit over ukraine territory by a ukraine BUK and flew a long time with dead pilots til it fall apart over the rebel territory
You see all those stories tend to change through time to fit new circumstances.
>the people on the airliner were already dead and planted on the plane, the plane was remotely detonated by a bomb

This is just a little collection about what we had to deal with about this single event, it wasnt very differnt with any other shady russian stuff in the ukraine conflict, basically it was always the same.

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>>134097433
FUCK my life for taking to this idiot seriously and waste my breath

>>134092335
Thats cute but Britball still failed to provide proof of X. Unlike Russiaball who did provide proof that time Turkey was running oil trucks into Isisia and Russ got annoyed and bombed them all. Good times, 'member?

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>>134090657
>It isn't so common at /pol/ because Ukrainian IPs are mostly banned

>>134085160
Was Russia ,
The real question here is
>but who was phone?
Been bugging me for years

If you grew up listening to NBC news and only nbc news exactly how redpilled do you think you would be anon?

>>134086784
It's okay Funlan, we will protect you like we promised

>>134097433
Not nuking Germany was a mistake.

>>134087533
>Europeans
>Not the most gullible
You're joking right?

>>134097993
kinda disgusting if you think of all the different stories and lies that got spewed around here and the media during that incident.

remember that Spanish air traffic controller Carlos? that bullshit was spammed with over hundred of threads.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/07/18/malaysia-plane-shot-down-by-ukraine-claims-mysterious-spanish-air-traffic.html

>>134098024
>Thats cute but Britball still failed to provide proof of X.
Just because russiaball will say to every proof "that is not true", doesnt make it less real.
>Turkey was running oil trucks into Isisia
You mean those trucks that had to go through Assad controlled territory when you actually looked at the route? Boy did we laugh about that petty attempt to make a fake story. A little extra: Assads goverment payed engineers operating in ISIS territory at the ISIS held oil fields, but of course you knew that one too, dont you?

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>>134090062
Yum yum drink up that Muslim cum

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>>134090222
>you muslim kike loving faggot

>>134098554
>remember that Spanish air traffic controller Carlos? that bullshit was spammed with over hundred of threads.
Of course i remember that one, best thing about him was, how he could speak better russian than english and totaly ignored any questions in spanish and also never even made one response in spanish.

>>134086467
>Because for every 1 made-up propaganda piece there are 99 other pieces that tell the truth of how the world really works
You have it backwards.

For every 9999 made-up propaganda pieces there is maybe 1 other piece that tells the truth of how the world really works

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>>134096032
Funny of all the people that post here a dirty finn would call us mutts

>>134097812
To add on this.
>Be Syria
>Be Assad
>Ask him to adopt democracy and step down
>NO.JPG
>Be Russian puppet state over USA one

Assad is well aware in that he knows that if he welcomes USA into his country its a worse deal than the war. After all look what happened to Saddam and Gaddafi. Hes next on the chopping block.

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>>134098007


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/09/imprecise-russian-bombing-syria-fuelling-refugee-crisis-us-official

http://time.com/4054941/putin-russia-syria/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/12180073/Nato-chief-Vladimir-Putin-weaponising-refugee-crisis-to-break-Europe.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/13/irans-syria-project-pushing-population-shifts-to-increase-influence

there is a massive deplacement of people going on and Russia is supporting this / using this against us
pic related one of many examples of this.

i know you gonna attack the sources and ignored any pieces of evidence like a good programmed Putin bot you are.

>>134098630
I'm sorry. You failed to provide proofs of your outrageous statements an they are therefore disregarded.

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>Russian force's shoot down over a dozen Ukrainian cargo planes
>mistake Malaysia Air for cargo plane
>celebrate on social media
>loot corpses and parade booty on social media
>try to pin it on Ukraine with photoshoped Google earth image
>vatniks swallow it

FACKING FASHSIST BANDERA NAHUY BLYAT

#SAVEDUMBASPEEPLE

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>>134099404
You mean i have to provide more than you now? Who could have seen that one coming?

They're all alcoholic, vulgar, arrogant, lying, backstabbing, filthy subhumans, abusers and rapists. All of them. No exception.

Not I said that. Lenin said. it He said something among the lines that no nation on earth is as lazy and dumb as the Russians. And he was right.

The day when Russia finally burns to the ground and they show to me the burning Kremlin will be the day when I will go outside and sing and dance in broad daylight like people did after WW2 ended. Not kidding.

I'm glad that my ancestors killed as many of these rats as possible and I would gladly do the same if there ever was a war. Russians are the scum of the earth and their drug, AIDS, murder and abortion rates show it. I don't want to understand them. The Russian is an Asiatic and therefore thinks deviously. I'm only interested to see how much ammunition it takes to kill them.

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>>134088236

>>134100910
I regret voting for trump now thanks ;[ Germany may also be expansive but your people are friendly and have family values. Being ruled by kikes and Russians under the american flag even if i get a superior currency is not worth it. Id rather let Germany work with china to promote the clean energy revolution over trumps war drums with oil. That being said why did it have to be Hillary in the democratic seat this is all such bullshit. Obama then Hillary vs trump we can never win.

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>>134089899
sure dude

>>134098007
>>134097433
It's not really Russia, more Iran and Assad.
Of course the main blame falls on the European leaders.

Look at all the greater Israel memes. Now look at a real world map. It's not Israel that's creating a greater state in those lands. It is Iran, with Iranian troops and militias in the tens of thousands.

Would they want a bunch of Sunnis who hate them? Or to push them to Europe and make Europeans hate them. It's always the Sunnis who are fleeing Syria and Iraq, never the Shia. Curious coincidence?

Read this for an example how aware Iran is of demographic combat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Zabadani_cease-fire_agreement

In the agreement there is ethnic removal of Sunni from the region.

As for Russia, they got involved in the war way late to make a difference. They aren't anti refugee much, as their country is one of the routes into Europe:

>Taking the polar route: the refugees in limbo in Norway
>In August, 420 people made the crossing here. Now there are about 500 coming a week.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2016/feb/05/taking-the-polar-route-the-refugees-in-limbo-in-norway
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/28/europe/norway-russia-middle-east-refugees-bicycles/index.html

>>134102392


>https://theguardian com/world/ng-interactive/2016/feb/05/taking-the-polar-route-the-refugees-in-limbo-in-norway
https://archive.is/IDeHm
>http://edition cnn com/2015/10/28/europe/norway-russia-middle-east-refugees-bicycles/index.html
https://archive.is/j2ziH

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>>134089899

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>>134089899
l

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>>134089899
lk

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>>134089899
ffd

>>134085054
>Why are westerners so ready to swallow every multiculti propaganda piece their globalist-run media spoon feeds them?
That's just how most people are.

>>134086275
Ameritards are the niggers of the black race.

>>134102392
I think its safe to say there are 3 main factions in the region. Sunni,Shia and Judeasim supported by Saudi Arabia, Iran, Turkey and Israel. Then you have special interests from USA and Russia. Then you have Trump who is going against the USA special interests in the region because he doesnt understand geo-politics or he really is a traitor.

The fact that Sunni migrating out of the ME into Europe shows whos winning and its not us. Thanks for the knowledge friend.

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>>134099252
>I'll post western propaganda, that will show them!

>>134088236
you stole your laptop from a tourist didn't you ahmed

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>>134102386
>>134102441
>>134102569
>>134102781
>>134102973

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>>134099252
>((the guardian))
>((time))
>((thelegraph))

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who started it? soros, usa, russia?
>The US-funded government coup in the Ukraine was about preventing the economic integration of the Eurasian Union, that could rival that of the EU
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpf2H8lIZjs
is this true?

>>134085054
>

>>134099252
yes well craut, can you take the english press seriously tho
>Assad gassed children !!!11!!1 attck ! attack attack ! him

>>134104224
No. Also seeing a netherland spreading russian propaganda in a thread about MH17 makes me think you are just another russian send to the netherlands by his rich daddy for school, because russia is overall shit. Or are you just another proxy user?

>>134104598
do you want to see my dick you sissyfaggot or are you going take that halal strap-on out of your anus
EU is history el-Hans

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>>134104927
>that obvious butthurt
>that standard russian name calling
I hit a nerve, didnt i?

>>134104598
you sound like a kike/muslim not ethnic Duits

>>134105151
Hello, preprogammed russcuck, have you noticed how the possiblity of of getting called muslim/whatever rappidly goes through the roof the second you say something against russia as a german? Course not, you are just another useful idiot doing your job and parrotting stuff like a little good sheep.

>>134105437
nah , fuck you, autobot

>>134085054
>Why are Americans so ready to swallow every conspiracy turd their zionist-run media spoon feeds them?

>>134105138
i just think you should move to new york or canada and shill for hillary and protest ebil drumpf
on different channels where your fullfledged jewness will be swallowed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su4Yntz-9As

Kek the vatnik proxies have already invaded the thread, like clockwork

>>134105692
>autobot
>at same time gives parrot like answers
Common, tell us. Why have you done it? Honestly. Let me guess, you have seen the russian shills repeating it for you over and over, and then you finally thought, hey, that looks like the sheep thing to do, lets baw that stuff like a good trained sheep. Free yourself from that garbage, all you are doing right now is whoring yourself out for free as an useful idiot.

>>134105886
>REEEE he is not responding like i want
>lets try it with the shillary attempt now
Have you seen one of you, you have seen em all.

>>134106483
that was actual advice merkel obama
you have clearly picked sides and it's not here desu

For the past 1000 years, the Russian people have periodically faced numerous wars with invaders, be it Tatar-Mongols, Turks, Brits, French, Germans, Arabs. No 100 years passing before someone decides, hey let's conquer Russia.

Left for herself and under no foreign rule, Russia quickly becomes an economic and military powerhouse, because the Russian population has always been very educated and disciplined, very similar to European citizens in this regard.

Russian people have developed a 6th sense for hostile interests and subversion ever since, and the latest historical development shows once again attempts for foreign subversion.

>>134106483
I'm all in for Russia at least they're not fucking up the continent like mutti Merkel is , I really hope they finish you off in WW3, no more Germany, no more WW1 & WW2 or WW4

>>134106741
>netherland
>defends russians in a thread about MH17 and attacks everyone who shows the truth about them
I think you have to expand the regular cuck scale for you.

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>>134085054
>Why are Russians so ready to swallow every conspiracy theory their government-run media spoon feeds them?

>unironically posting this as an American

Top kek.

>>134107072
Your mindset and desperate attempts to distract from the discussion before, rather shows your mindset, this also quite nicely explains the state your country is in.

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>>134092344
>>134092335
Lies there are no Russian military in ukraine ever! Only local self defence forces.
Like pic related where we see a local tractor driver and potato farmer driving one of the worlds most sophisticated AA-systems which they bought on Ebay for all their potato savings.

>>134106833
You're a gullible fool if you think Russia's intellectual elite comes even close to the European intellectual elite.

Sure they have stuff like Tetris and Winrar. You know what the West has? Everything fucking else. Russians always begged European engineers etc to come to Russia and build stuff because they can't build it themselves. Always. Russian history began with them begging some viking to rule over them. Fucking pathetic.

And now you are telling me that their population is educated? Then why am I reading stuff like: "20 Siberian men died because they drank gasoline". Russia is fucking trash. Literally a potemkin village (this term unsurprisingly originated there).

>>134107082
do this for me please to proove that you're not a lying shill:
>show me where I attacked anyone
>take the halal buttplug out of yout anus
>post penis to verify that you're not a circumsized niggerjew
I already offered to show mine and the offer still stands if you complete above tasks. Pro tip: you can't.

>>134107306
Cant wait when other countries will do all the same garbage to Russia, which Russia did in Ukraine. It will be glorious, russians will scream bloody murder for real for a change and the rest will just look at it and go meh you had it coming.

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>>134107082
>>134107284
>>134107597
Julian is that you

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>>134107509
>>do this for me please to proove that you're not a lying shill:
>>show me where I attacked anyone
Constant namecalling since the start.

>take the halal buttplug out of yout anus
You seem to think you do it, so everyone else must do it?

>>post penis
>>do you want to see my dick you sissyfaggot
No one wants to see your fucking dick or any dick, you fucking dick loving faggot.

So tell us, what you are now? A russian living outside of Russia because it is so obvious shit or a cucked netherland, who takes russian interests before its own?

>>134107672
Look at that, the next magical appearing poster, giving the next predigested shill answer. Sure isnt strange, that this happens so often in those thread,

>>134107597
You sound like a fucking retard! Do not reply to my posts

>>134108308
But it brings those juicy, juicy (You)s.

>>134093825
It doesn't have laws against islamaphobia. It has laws against criticism of religion of any kind. Times like these make me miss the godless commies.

>>134089899
>putina
KEK

>>134108032
I take my own interests before some merkelian bureacrats. No shady trade deals that mean nothing. We have no business in Ukraine. That means we don't get to decide for them who does. If russia invades it's not my fucking fault.

And your above points are very pointless, I asked a simple question and you attacked me like a hypocrite and blamed me like a shill.

Also, funny to see you admit taking it up the ass for Aisha

Even better when you make arguements about priority.... about a citizen of a country you once occupied....

You're lost, Hans, maybe follow the teachings of Mohammed better.... you should be praying and not trolling a finnish waifu sharing community

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>>134108179
Lol paranoid idiot who think everyone is a russian.

KYS cuck, germany is a joke keep taking muhamed cock up your ass when all you do is to act holier than thou, you are doing exactly the same thing you acuse other off, you shill against real german interests cause you have been brainwashed by american zionist propaganda.

>>134108744
No you are a russian cuckboy, who cant call russia for what it is, without trying to drag in every other topic like the next vatnik. You can talk all day and make accusations left and right, but you cant free yourself from this, because it is your real agenda, you construct everything around that, everything else would not make any sense, but you are too deep in that shit to notice how obvious uncanny that is to others.

>>134108960
>shows europe map of muslim percentage
>magically no russia in it
Coud it be because the percentage in Russia is more than double than in germany? The rest of your post is just an incoherent asshurt rant.

>>134107461
>You're a gullible fool if you think Russia's intellectual elite comes even close to the European intellectual elite.

You are comparing apples and oranges. Take a look at scientific publications, war machinery, etc., It's all very similar despite little cooperation, with the main difference of Russian engineering sacrificing precision for sturdyness.

>Russian begging...

Have any reliable sources for that?

>Population is uneducated.

Visit any Russian school and compare the average 16 year old with the average 16 year old American or German.

>Drink themselves to death...

Life in Russia is much tougher compared to cozy Europe. You have very harsh climatic conditions, still high level of corruption, and especially in Siberia, very scarse population. You should take a visit and see for yourself, I've been both to Moscow, St. Petersburg, and parts of Siberia multiple times.

>>134107284
your mindset quickly shows me you are a OCD German, no joke

>>134109355
>>shows europe map of muslim percentage
Can you even read?
Muslims in EU country, i was talking about the joke germany is taking in rapefugees, as far as i know Russia was never in the EU.

>>134109049
>you are a
>make accusations left and right
you have not and will not be able to prove anything regarding my alledged identity (and I've already offered evidence to disprove your delusional rant) while also confirming several ways any of the suspicions I've expressed about you.
please go to bed merkel. you need some rest if you want to be a pretty fraulein for hassan
want me to help pick a nice hijab for when some raghead mistakes you for a camel?

>>134109592
>>hey, you took a map without russia, because you didnt want to show that russia has at least double the percentage
>erm....i...i of course ment the EU and only the EU
Thanks for proving my point. Joke aside, show the direct post from you that said you mean the EU specifcly, everything else is just backpaddling.

>>134109552
You should try to make a job with that ability, bet you would get super rich and successful with it.

>>134109773
>plz let me show you my penis it is proofz
You are the laughing stock of this thread.

>>134097383
>Russians think Texas is like a cowboy movie
It is.

>>134110212
So it is a real life Westworld?

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>>134110154
>You are the laughing stock of this thread.
I'll gladly take that title if that means it doesn't go to your senseless vitriol

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>>134110154
>Thanks for proving my point. Joke aside, show the direct post from you that said you mean the EU specifcly, everything else is just backpaddling.
Wtf are you talking about retard? I was saying germany is a joke nowadays and i posted that map, whats wrong with you? too much muhamed cock or are you a mudslime with low IQ? fucking neck yourself

>>134085054
Not used doesn't mean not in storage or ready to be sold off.

>>134109460
>muh tough, harsh Russia! They wrestle bears to death and are Christian and conservative!
Go suck a dick. Russia is just as Westernized, degenerate and spoiled as the West, if not even more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVFO2wQdGAU

That Russia which you are talking about might have existed in the 60s or something. Today they are just a shittier version of the West with huge inferiority complexes.

>>134110654
no, they are based Orthodox and you had better learn somethimg from them you Russophobe retard

>>134110654
top kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivT-I-yxtdY

>>134110654

Nice try Hans, how about you take your Roller, put on your Schutzhelmchen and try to take a ride through Novosibirsk or Krasnojarsk during wintertime?

>>134110537
You tried to make look germany bad and intetionally chose a picture that didnt showed that russia got double said percentage, like the russian shill you are. BTW spain was literally muslim occupied in history contradicting to germany, how that does turn up in your graphic?

>>134110535
Look at this totaly not russian answering with a russian rebel leader in his picture in responds. He does it to ensure everyone that he is actually not a russian or anything. Lets all hope it works out for him.

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>>134089500
usa and russia could be natural allies, too bad all that competition for spheres of influence happened

>>134111418
Hillary please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGUgcC3dbOY

>>134111140
Nobody fucking cares about your filthy Slav ghettos.

>How about you drive through Detroit?
>How about you drive through Somalia?
>How about you drive through Syria?
>How about you drive through Venezuela?

Thanks for proving me again that you are white niggers. A country where you can't even have a safe life isn't a country at all.

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>>134111418
>You tried to make look germany bad and intetionally chose a picture that didnt showed that russia got double said percentage,
If you want to show us the muslim population in Russia you go look for that map, i don't have to make the work for you dipshit, you can post what you want.

Shit im now realizing you are really a retarded brainwashed muslim lover cuck german. I will no longer reply to you, Here take your prize

>>134087377
I want this bed, I need links

>>134111997

Life is not safe Hans, and you have to understand that Germany, from Russias perspective, is like a small cute village where men all have to behave very much, or social havoc breaks loose. Small villages are easier to keep safe than vast territorries. Usually, the first thing Germans say when seeing Russia is "Diese Weiten", it is quite literally unimaginable for you.

>>134112850
Stop acting like life in Germany is so cuddly and fantastic. We have our own kind of hell here. A different hell than you, but a hell nevertheless.

You have no fucking idea how infuriating it is to have so many shit laws. If you want to open a company here, you might as well kill yourself. Too many regulations, too much competition etc... in Russia you are far more free than here.

So stop talking shit about muh harsh Russia. You have it maybe cozier than you think. You can be as patriotic as you want. We can't. That's as harsh as it fucking gets.

>>134111915
>next standard shillary responds
Like a broken record.

>>134112041
>Well since it is Russia we must look at different stuff
>you must be a muslim lover, reeee, you must, i say so or better said without it i would have nothing, so it must be true
Have you more of those standard shill answers you have preprogrammed with my little brainwashed russian lover?

>>134113232
>>134111997
>What about the USA?
>It is much better in Russia
Russian Immigrant or Meckerossi detected.

>>134113542
They can be as patriotic as they want. That's the only thing I was saying.

If a German is even 10% as patriotic as an average Ruskie he would become a fucking outcast. You know that as well as I do.

Russia is still total garbage though.

>>134113394
>MUH RUSSIA
stop the goddamn shillary narrative you utter embarrassment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5m2CFriuw&t=3s

>>134111507
It's all because Patton got assassinated.

>>134113774
>Oh my god. someone said something about russia in a thread about it.
>This is not allowed!
>You can talk about every nation in a thread about it!
>But Russia? Special treatment! Russia good boy, didndu nuffin!
>You must talk about other nations instead and attack the nations talking bad about Russia.
Like a clockwork.

>>134113719
There is nothing to look up about russia, its a disfunctional state, falling from one crisis to another and can only substain itself by exporting resources like a third world country. If you really were looking you would be embaressed how low they performance is compared to their potential.

>>134113232
>So Cuddly and fantastic

But it is, take a look at parts of Allgäu, Bavaria, Ostfriesland. Maybe aside from the Netherlands, some of the most genuine cozy places I've ever seen.

>Competition, Companies...
That's the weekness of having such a densly populated area. But the competition and level of stress comes nowhere close to urban China, where students kill themselves if they fail entry exams.

>As patriotic as you wish
Sad perk to have when you are forced to serve as some medic or mechanic in a 200 soul village surrounded by thousands of killometers of nothingness, or have to live off an equivalent of 200 € pansions with roughly the same purchase power.

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>>134093214
>>134094197
Another detail is that the old BUK at least has a uniquely Russian "automatically fire at anything you see" standalone mode, which doesn't require it to be linked to a command vehicle.

>>134095079
Yeah and they provided some evidence for that claim, in the form of the observed damage to the aircraft not matching modern BUK warhead dispersal patterns.

Between those two things, it's at least *questionable* that it was a Russian launcher, and possible that even if it was no human issued a firing order.

>>134115182
>Another detail is that the old BUK at least has a uniquely Russian "automatically fire at anything you see" standalone mode, which doesn't require it to be linked to a command vehicle.
Thats new for me, you got any sources? If it is really true it literally could mean that MH17 got shot down because some "volunteer" was lazy and thought he was quite clever activating it while he took a nap or had gone for a piss.

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>>134114849
nobody said this you fuck
here's my view of you and at least two apply:
>lefty
>black
>woman
>sexually deviant
>progressive
>american
>overweight

Now you're not here to argue since you don't actually listen, and there is nothing to gain for you when nobody is around to commend your futility exercise in """"correctness""""". I'll leave you to your delusions with an advisory reminder there's no place for them here. Have fun fooling yourself (and nobody else), for the time it lasts until you realize you're only trolling yourself.
To save you a lot of trouble I recommend joining antifa or something aligned right now. You seem to have the right state of mind for it. I'll see you on the front line, I suppose, and who knows, down the range of a barrel.

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>>134114990
>But it is, take a look at parts of Allgäu, Bavaria, Ostfriesland.
Are you actually retarded? Do you REALLY think a normal person can afford to live in these places or even be accepted there? And do you think everything looks like that? They are made for impressionable toursists just like yourself. There are lot of commieblocks and ghettos just like in Russia. Crime, prostitution, drugs, violence, you name it. Pic related - Neuköln.

Don't come here bro, everything is terrible here.

I'm sure it is infinitely easier to buy a house in Russia than in Germany. Houses are expensive as fuck here.

>>134115861
>is getting called out for his vatnik behaviour and making endless wild accusations
>thinks he can proof a point by acting exactly like that again and again and again...
>wants to show everyone his penis and get shown other peoples penises for some reason
Must be fun to be so deluded.

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>>134115850
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-flaw-in-the-buk-missile-system-2014-7?IR=T

>As one expert explained to Technology Review, the Buk's ease of usability is also what makes the weapon so prone to tragic and costly errors like the MH17 crash.
>
>The system cannot tell the difference between civilian and military-type aircraft based on their transponder signatures alone. In order to tell the difference between targets, it would need to be interfaced with other weapons systems that can work off of additional information.

>>134115941
>I'm sure it is infinitely easier to buy a house in Russia than in Germany. Houses are expensive as fuck here.
Dude, you have no idea how it even remotely is in Russia for russians, if you dont get an apartment from your parents or you take it over from another relative you are just fucked. You easily can spend 20 years paying off a shitty commie block apartment with a middle class job let alone a house. All else you can do is live in some remote town with hardly any jobs.

>>134116710
I think i misunderstood you there
>"automatically fire at anything you see" standalone mode
thought the BUK would shoot without an operator at all, but this is another thing.

>>134085054
>swallow every conspiracy theory their government-run media spoon feeds them?

It's like that everywhere. Have you even been paying attention?