Republicants Give Up

>>134064468
Archived that for you https://archive.is/EM1Io

>>134064468
Republicans are corporate slaves, the health corps want Obama care thus republicans are trying to find a way to be against it while still have it. They are a defunct party

>>134064516
Thanks for filtering out the WashPoo

>>134064468
It's hilarious that democrats did ObamaCare entirely on their own, and are now saying that "we can now be bipartisan and finally fix this problem together."

>>134067330
>Republicans take away health coverage from over 30 million americans so they can give a massive tax cut to the wealthy
>waaaa it's the democrats fault!!

We need to start repealing and replacing senators, show them how it's done.

>>134067499
I didn't blame democrats for healthcare loss, you illiterate retard. They excluded republicans in the creation of ObamaCare, and are now complaining about exclusion and touting bipartisanship.

Sad that they couldn't figure out a way to have the taxpayer subsidize massive price gouging by the pharma and healthcare crime syndicates. Maybe after Obamacare fails in a couple more nearly bankrupt states they will be able to figure out some way to continue the transfer of all national wealth to corrupt monopolies.

>>134067671
Controlled burn perhaps....a lot of republicans are going to get the boot in the midterms, so where bi-partisanship can exist then there another reason to show the democrats can mend their mistakes.

>>134067851
It's not that myopic....big pharma owns our congress.

Single payer as illogical as it seems to right wingers, is the only way to have Americans get what their paying for through taxes.

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>>134064468
Good, just repeal it

>>134067869
>a lot are going to get the burn

And be replaced by more conservative republicans

>>134067499
>>Republicans take away health coverage from over 30 million americans so they can give a massive tax cut to the wealthy
>>waaaa it's the democrats fault!!
kys, commie. Rich people are the only ones that pay taxes in the states. And this bill would have lowered costs for all private health insurance.

>>134067869
>being a retarded leftist

God Trump's a failure.

>>134067671
Obamacare was literally a Republican healthcare plan lel.

>>134064468
House republicucks. That's why Trump beat them all.

>>134064468
There are so very few republicans.

There are mostly just libs and lib double-agents

>>134064468
The individual mandate will still be in the Republican version so better to just repeal the fucking thing wholesale and leave it at that.

Niggers need to get insurance the way everyone else does, by getting a real job

>>134068115
Read the fucking title. They dont have the votes for a full repeal or a r&r.

Lmao, republicans never stfu about this for years. Now they have a guy willing to sign it and they get cold feet.

These fuckers will never get into power again without Trump.

>>134064468
oust all the rinocucks and have a real repeal, not trumps "obamacare but with my name on it" bill

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>>134072034
I disagree...Trump won't win re-election and these guys will...we get what we deserve

Democrats obstructing again

>>134066599

> Gov't offers to absorb or offset hospital costs for homeless walk-ins

> No we'll take the high road and pay it ourselves

> That'll make us competitive

They'd be idiots not to.

>>134072306
>minority party obstructing
Kek

>>134072306
fuck you nigger

>>134064468
Good tbqh, better to let Obama's shitshow fail than to pass something so unpopular that it will kill the party forever

>>134067869
i feel you do not understand what is at stake for liberals in 2018. you might want to check it out because your party is an few positions short of annihilation.

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>>134064468
just as predicted

>>134064468

repeal with 2 year delay is gonna pass. They are trying last ditch efforts to save some form of replace.

This is punting Obamacare to the next congress.

If they pass nothing this will hurt the GOP immensely.

>>134075176
If they pass something horribly unpopular that hurts their rural voters it will KILL the GOP

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The United States is a failing nation, it's fighting 8 wars at the same time but can't take care of it's own people.

We are seeing an empire slowly crumble before our eyes.

>>134064468
This is fine with me, shit fuck. Let oniggers healthcare fall
t. Anon who works for insurance

>>134075287
Just remember, if we go, the entire world as it's known goes with us. Russia and China will conquer all.

>>134075282

no it won't. They'll never vote Democrat.

Full repeal with 2 year delay will force Democrats to run on their plans for healthcare reform which will be...

- reversing the repeal of Obamacare, forces them to defend it
- offering the replacement... which makes them abandon Obamacare.

GOP wins with full repeal that forces Democrats to address Obamacare in 2018 midterms.

The full repeal with 2 year delay is probably more unpopular with Jared Kushner and people within Trump's White House. It was his inner circle that pushed for a full replacement.

The full repeal has to happen or GOP will lose face and give Democrats too much leverage and too much of an opportunity going forward.

If the GOP does nothing, it's retarded.

Full repeal with 2 year delay is only option.

>>134066599
How badly do republicunts have it on the hill?
Dems wont work with them. Deep state and Major Corps have them by the balls.
Dont envy them.

>>134068309
>Be me
>Make 30k
>Pay 24% income tax

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>GOP Creates a health plan that honestly sucks but better then the current system of "HURR JUST GO TO EMERGENCY ROOM IF YOU'RE UNINSURED".
>Obama compromises on the plan give it the "BRETTY GUD" thumbs up.
>GOP goes onto an autistic shitfit over plan they created.
>Trump is elected, major policy point is repeal the ACA "Obama Care"
>Suddenly realize that repealing the ACA without replacement would be monumentally stupid as GOP constituents in inbred, poor as fuck regions like in Appalachia and the deep south would be the most fucked by this and cost re-elections on seats.
>Trump screaming REPEAL AND REPLACE, When the "replacement" is even more shitty then the current law WHICH THEY CREATED.
>Unsurprisingly Bill fails, more autistic screeching and more time wasted when there are far more pressing issues at hand
>Blame democrats despite having a majority in BOTH the house and senate
>"Nah fuck it guys lets just repeal it"
>Can't even agree to repeal it.\
>*Screeching intensifies*

It's fucking hilarious, the GOP is going to crash and burn so hard. They can't even agree to disagree and now their useful idiot is about fuck them over for his own ego.

>>134075652
Most of the rural voters especially in the regions with the highest uninsured rates are poor recknecks and take in welfare.
Its the reason house GOP is reluctant to pass a shitty/repeal the ACA but while their constituents may be easily swayed inbred retards they will realize they are getting fucked if they lose the medicade/ACA provisions.

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>>134064468
They cut my medicare

>>134074479
>pay it ourselves
That's not how it works. The cost gets passed on to everyone else via rising insurance premiums we've seen over the last 2 decades. Without a system that pays for poor people who can't afford healthcare, costs will continue to rise forever.

>>134079191
maybe get a job anon
> then you can know the pain of living healthy then having your premium double because lul why take care of yourself when you can be fat and get it free

>>134076408
Thanks for helping to Correct the Record. $0.05 has been deposited into your account.

>>134076408
Can we just do single payer and get this shit over with?

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>>134076408
>Blame democrats

>>134079594
We can if we elect a democrat next time.

>>134080369
> California alone
> 25%increase tax to companies payroll
> 15% increase on people
yeah seems like a good idea

>>134064468
>>134066599
>>134075758
Man, these leftists are mad as shit.
Too bad you have zero power.

>>134080369
wtf I love diversity now
#BlackLivesMatter

The democrats need to be put down like the dogs they are, they are a dead party.

>>134079514
hey don't don't blame for Donny and by extension being worthless pieces of shit that couldn't pass a turd let alone a heathcare bill.

I'm just sitting back and enjoying the ride.

>>134079594
Ironically I wish the GOP would be able to repeal obama care because it does suck, and its only way people are going to wake up when the pain of being uninsured really hits.

>>134080986
>he doesn't realize his employer is already paying more than that for his health insurance

>>134076408
>compromises
Kill yourself, CTR. There was nos compromise. Obama didn't give a shit about what Republicans thought of his law, and he couldn't get a single vote from them. There certainly was no compromise agreement.

>>134064468

Mitch needs to give up on life.

>>134081636
> that is being added to what they already pay they may pay 15000$ per year per employee for health it won't go away they will still pay that it will just go to gov + 25% in payroll tax

>>134076408
>Shariablue comes to set the record straight

This is a ploy by the establishment GOP. The republicans have been elected since 2010 to repeal Obamacare, yet they refuse despite 1st getting both the House and Senate and now the presidency. They are fucking up Trumps policies and the Republican Party platform which they agreed to and the citizens of the USA voted for on November 8th 2016. To throw the 2018 elections and give the House and Senate back to the Democrats. They expect the republican base to be completely disenchanted with the party and either stay home or cast a revenge vote against the incumbent republican. And mark my words and screenshot this, the Republicans will blame Donald Trump for their loss, they'll blame his rhetoric, stance on immigration anything but their total lack of action, so that they can get a democrat president in 2020 thats part of establishment

>>134064468
Republicans will never get rid of Obamacare because it's political suicide. It's easy to pass laws that hand out gibs, but when you pass laws that take gibs away the proles will chimp out.

>>134082157
Why would it be added to that when a single payer system would cover everyone, completing replacing the need for private health insurance? Private coverage would become an optional luxury like it is in most of the rest of the world now.

>>134075464
Imagine Russia conquering Sweden and slaughtering the refugees after arming the Swedish Nationalists and imprisoning the leftists and Jews.

>>134064468
Can someone explain why the republicans are having such a hard time with healthcare?
Why is it even that complicated to figure out a plan that works?
Iv always had employer or private insurance so i dont know too much about it.

>>134067671
The whole point of Obama care was to lay groundwork and have it be edited and built upon by both parties.

>>134082900
> it's 25% tax increase on companies payroll
and 15% on people
the tax is being added to what companies already pay out you have to pay to get free healthcare so the average guy making 10$ in California will be hit with +15% to hit tax bracket since the tax is going to be the same at all tiers

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>spend eight years screaming about how Obamacare is islamo-communism and an existential threat to the Republic that must be repealed at all costs
>finally control both houses of congress and the White House
>can't repeal it because they suddenly realized throwing 30 million people off of their healthcare is political suicide

Why won't the American people realize losing their healthcare is a GOOD thing? Sure, they might die, but they'll die free! It's the price of liberty! Wouldn't you rather die a free man than live under Sharia Socialism?

That ain't cancer, that's a malignant mass of freedom cells!

>>134083140
This is our dream.

>>134083733
or just move to Canada i hear the wait times for surgery are shorter than last year only 7 months

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>>134083597
The average guy making $10 in california is already paying more than 15% of his income for healthcare, either on his own or because his employer pays for it. Also, you cite specific numbers without giving any actual sources.

>>134083898
are you autistic
> the tax is being added onto what you pay already autist and with companies
citation every news agency that reported on it

>>134083857
>i heard

[citation needed]

>>134075176
Actually repeal with delay is also dead. 7 GOP senators have confirmed they wont vote for repeal without a replace.

>>134084064
> Canadian surveys

>>134075652

It won't happen. This vote is only meant to get the RINOs on record.

>>134064468
RyanCare seems like ObamaCare with a (((tax cut)))

>>134084364
>muh six million d chess

Cowards the lot of them

>>134075282
The GOP is already dead after this fuckup. They're all there because voters wanted them to get this done.

>>134082784

that's a myth. Look at Spain.

The problem is the lobbyists and the Medicaid expansion.

Kushner is probably pushing for the Obamacare lite and the provider bailout. His family has been involved in Obamacare.

2 year repeal is gonna pass. Only option. They'll probably sneak in some pork or a way for insurers in the exchanges to exit the marketplaces while having their losses covered.

If they pass nothing, they piss off the electorate... the people who voted Republican. The Democrats and liberals don't fucking matter.

GOP is gonna piss off their base.

Full repeal that takes effect in 2019 is kosher. Only option.

>>134084271
>Obamacare is the worst thing ever but we'd rather have it than go back to the previous status quo
Well done.

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>>134084577
>kosher

>>134084014
>still not citing a source
I'm not autistic, but you might be retarded. A single payer healthcare system would eliminate the need for any individual or employer to have to pay for health insurance again. If you're making $50k/year and have a family, somebody is paying the $17k+ to cover them right now. That's at least 30% of your total compensation that goes just to health insurance premiums. If your employer is paying for it, with a single payer system (which would inherently be more efficient and thus reduce costs in healthcare) they would no longer need to pay that and the added tax levied on them would be much less than that, meaning you would most likely see wages go up for the middle class.

>>134084604
That's what we get for keeping skeletons like McCain around.

>>134084271

they have to get whipped into signing it.

Collins and Capito are hurting their party.

>>134084604
Uea Obama did a great job making this unrepealable.Trump is a useless leader and since his 36% approval is heavily cpncentrated he doesnt really have the ability to lead

>>134084572
>voters
you mean the Koch Brothers

>>134084691
> tf are you talking about
> the tax is 15% added onto what you pay in taxes now , say you pay 25% total income in tax with the bill you'll be paying 40% of your total income in taxes , then lets say companies pay 15% of what they make in tax after the bill they will pay 40% of their income in tax all new articles on it say the same thing
make sense kid

>>134085058
Until you actually present some sources, I'll assume you're just making up random numbers.

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>>134084848
I have a theory that Obamacare was intended to blow up the healthcare market. It hamstrung the very idea of for-profit healthcare with a Trojan Horse.

>everyone is now forced to be your customer

Sounds nice on paper, right? Until all the cancer patients and people with terminal or chronic conditions signed up, and young, healthy people realized the fine was so paltry that it was cheaper not to get it at all. Now the insurance industry realizes they signed a deal with the devil, while Republicans took the bait hook, line, and sinker and spent the last eight years calling it LITERALLY THE END OF 'MURRICA AS WE KNOW IT.

Problem is, it's had eight years to fester, and now a full repeal is all but impossible. The insurance industry is going bankrupt, but those with preexisting conditions love it and the optics of ripping their insurance away from them is political suicide. Notice how Republicans aren't even using the "muh freedumbs" or "muh free margets" anymore? They're instead either promising to replace it with something else, or just flat out refusing to talk about it altogether.

But it WILL collapse eventually. That was the point. Obamacare was a timebomb meant to kill private insurance to pave the way for single payer.

And Republicans played right into their hands.

>>134084844
Their cooperation ends where their careers begin. They're from swing states, and IIRC are up for reelection next year.

>muh party unity

Goes out the window when it's their asses on the line. Yes, it's cowardly, but that's what we get for not having term limits.

>>134082049
compromise was for the independent lieberman not republicans retard

>>134085301
citing every source on the issue i don't have 16 years buddy

>>134085042
>evil rich people
Sup, Bernout.

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http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/342534-gops-repeal-only-plan-quickly-collapses-in-senate

>Murkowski, who had balked at the last version of the ObamaCare bill, said she is a "no" on the motion to proceed to a repeal-only plan. She is the third Republican senator to take that position.

>"No. I said back in January that if we're going to do a repeal there has to be a replacement. There's enough chaos and uncertainty already," she told reporters Tuesday.
I'm so tired of winning!!! I literally can't look away from the news or my phone because every second of every day brings more defeats to Trump and his co-conspirators!!

>>134085750
I wanna do some fact checking but holly shit, you might be right

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Why doesn't the US just copy a healthcare system that works, anything from Western Europe seems btter than the shitshow that's going on now.

>spend the last 6 years campaigning on getting rid of Obamacare
>Get the chance
>Don't

Fuck these cuckservatives

>>134071103
It was opposed by almost every republican

>>134088746
Yes but it was a Republican idea re-branded by Obongo

>>134075836
>>Make 30k
>>Pay 24% income tax

if you do, you're a huge retard

>>134075464
Lmao, no.

>>134088453
To many none whites to work.
Our healthcare system only work when
everyone wants to work and contribute.
It will be extinct in europe within 20 years due to the Jews and their immigration policies.

>>134085750
Not to shit on you, but the architect of obamacare said as much himself. This has been public knowledge for ~5 years.

>>134089631
> the architect of obamacare

That would be Mitt Romney? ObamaCare is based on RomneyCare.

>>134089731
No, the Obama policy guy who also said voters are idiots and need to be tricked.

>>134084779
>That's what we get for keeping skeletons like McCain around.

we need an amendment... no congressmen over 65 allowed. how in the fuck does an 80-90 year old relate to our lives today?

and i really hope mccain is retired from losing a piece of his brain

>>134088958
which is why republicans are now fucked.

>>134090324
We need a constitutional term limits amendment. 3 terms for reps, 2 terms for senators.

>>134067851
Nope.
It will just be nationalized.
Protip:
This was the plan all along

>>134072034
How many times did they pass a repeal bill when obama was president? Wasn't it upwards of 50?

>>134090675
it was like every other week. Obama's desk was 80% obamacare repeals.

>>134075003
Why do you think they were unable to write a good bill? Are they corrupted by big pharma? or just stupid.

>>134088623
Who knew it could be so complicated?

>>134076408
several (yous) but not one counter argument.

>>134085042
>>>/reddit/

>>134090773
http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/06/pat-toomey-gop-didnt-health-care-plan-ready-didnt-think-trump-win/

No, it's because they didn't think they'd actually get a chance to do it. Theu spent eight years chasing this car and no time thinking about what they'd do if they actually caught it.

>>134083350
Because they are all corporate shills who don't even make an effort to craft bills that will help people.

Dems are shills too, but they at least throw bones to their constituents.

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HA! WHAT NOW FUCKING DREUGHAMPF ?! SOON YOU WILL IMPEACHD AND GTFO BACK TO RUSSIA YOU MOTHERFUCK BADUMPFFAGOT

>>134091514
>a fucking leaf

>>134067671
>They excluded republicans in the creation of ObamaCare

The Dems invited Republicans to contribute and discuss and debate the bill numerous times and it was a long process. Shit, they even used a plan that was from a Republican think tank in order to be bipartisan.

Meanwhile the Republicans wrote the current bill entirely in secret and had no debates over it, to a point even 99% of their own members didn't really know what they were voting when it was rushed through in Congress. And the Senate version is just meaner version of that, only modified to appease their own members. And again, it's completely rushed with no attempt to work together with the other side. All the while blaming Dems for obstructing, despite having a majority and the Republicans themselves failing to get their own people to vote for it.

>>134064468
>I'LL LET THIS DIE SO A LOT OF YOU LOSERS DIE BUT I AM NOT OWNING IT
>Trump voters die
>Trump gets rekt in 2020 once the dems make spics to zerg rush from the crumbling Canada

http://www.businessinsider.com/mexican-immigration-canada-2017-3

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>completely and utterly shatters the left's reputation as the working class party
>dissolves the cohesion of the republican party, separates the red blooded patriots from the corporate drones and turns the former against the later
Our country is going to be great again.

>>134064516
You're a hero.

>>134064468
fuck off
I'm fucking serious

>>134091970
He's a robot created by a Brietbart guy to deny clicks to shit sites.

Is there any way to defend this? Getting bullied by my coworkers and I can't think of a good response.

>>134075282
>hurts muh rural voters
That's a meme.

>>134091751
Whats is with the partisanship these days? Its healthcare not rocket science so figure out a way to drive down cost of medicine and insurance. Oh wait the USA has a problem with el monopolies. We are fucked either way and i will just sit here and laugh as the system comes crashing down due to greed and corruption.

>>134076769
Wrong, actually. Every single nigger urban center/suburb is worse off.

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>>134092013

>>134092219
Not really. McConnell literally tried to pass this in secret with no public hearings or debates and it still went down in flames. He now is openly admitting they can't agree on a replacement, and has to resort to a two year delayed repeal.

There aren't too many good ways to spin that.

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>>134089886
>voters are idiots and need to be tricked.
I mean he's not wrong

>>134064468

For fucks sake. Why not have a floor vote to show who the republicucks are. Primary them away, or threaten to. Thats how you could atleast salvage keeping your base energized. Theres even odds the ones who want to vote no would vote yes out of terror of having a target from the right on their backs.

>Be living in american banana republic
>Be monkey man
>songs and dances every 4-8 years
>donkey vs elephant
>UHEUHEUHUE

>>134093055
Because that would piss the base off too much, and the Wall Street Jews don't want to lose their shabbos goyim to primary challenges.

>>134067330

You must've been too young to remember the absurd amount of concession and negotiation that went into that bill. I don't blame you considering you've probably never paid a bill in your life. You'll get there someday bud.

>>134093055
>Why not have a floor vote to show who the republicucks are

Seriously. Fuck Mitch McConnell forever.
I hope the next liberal mass murderer goes after the senate.

>>134093055
They have been playing you for fools! Notice how its only republicans that are remotely surprised this happened.

The truth is giving healthcare to those with preexisting conditions isn't actually the plan of Satan.

>>134092219
Just blame obama

>>134098584
>>134098584

>The truth is giving healthcare to those with preexisting conditions isn't actually the plan of Satan.

But it is incredibly expensive and draining the life out of our economy.

>>134064468
>Republicans saying one thing for 8 years, getting in office and doing another
Oh wow, color me and everyone over the age of 30 shocked. You kids are just starting to get wise to it.

>>134076408
>poor as fuck regions like in Appalachia and the deep south
This is bullshit most of the red states these people are in cannot fucking get OBamacare anyway. I am in VA and Im poor as fuck I CANT EVEN GET IT.

>>134076408
>GOP is going to crash and burn

Also I agree with this. I'd say 80% of the GOP is full of shitheads like Paul Ryan. The left and right are fucking retards there are only a few republicans who can get shit done and Trump wasn't really a republican much like Ron Paul wasn't much of a republican. I'm telling you so many lebbit faggots that people actually fucking believe /pol/ is pro-GOP.

>>134093055
this might work

Like, OMG, I can't handle this anymore! I think I'm gonna have an anxiety attack. We tried so hard and so many time to repeal Ocare and we still couldn't do it. Seriously, you fags are soooo useless. My dad poured tons of money into repealing Ocare because he's a trust fund manager and like oh my god he could get so much more tax breaks under the based republicans plan, OMG. You guys suck ass! Who's gonna buy my $2000 Gucci shoes now?

>>134098914
The problem is "let them die, fuck the sick and the poor, gots mine" is politically retarded, which is why Republicans aren't even trying to go that route anymore. And they can't agree on an alternative.

>>134064468
ACA was the GOP's plan, concocted in spirit by Fmr Governor Romney and shaped by the GOP members in the Senate, House, and committees. They can't repeal it because it's their bill.

Obama wasn't some socialist hippy. He was a centrist moderate who killed more terrorists with drones, enabled a invasive spying program, and passed a healthcare bill that is essentially Republican (i.e. no single-payer plan). The GOP shot themselves in the foot by spending the last four years hating Obama, when he did most of the shit they wanted him to.

>>134076408
Shit, beat me to it.

But yeah that's basically it.

>>134103034
Well, yeah.

But Obama was a Democrat, and more poignantly, a nigger.

>>134064468
Single payer is the future of politics

>>134104528
I'm not saying disagreeing, but at a certain point they need to be honest with themselves. Start focusing on GOP policy while they still have control instead of being so assblasted about the fact there were charcoal ass cheeks sitting at the resolute desk.

>>134104730
>future

Literally every other first world country on earth has it. America stomping its feet and screaming "I'm not wrong, everyone else" is starting to ring really, really fucking hollow.

>>134104817
$10 says McConnell and Ryan dispense with the pleasantries and outright turns on Trump the minute they pass tax reform.

>>134067869
How can you have any respect of faith for your leftist masters? They literally usurped your democratic process. Bernie should have won so we could be in civil war 2 right now destroying you communist shitbags.

>>134105240
I think constantly being asked to defend his latest tweet shitstorm is growing tiring. They would love if he just shut up and signed shit, but that's not going to happen.

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conservicucks in full damage control mode

>>134075282
Fuck it, more Scalises. Everyone should be lighting up their phones and harassing the ever living shit out of the 3 cunts who refused to vote for repeal. We need more political violence in america from the right. Enough of this take the high road shit. Its the same as being PC. The only thing congress fears is their special interest masters. They need to fear the people once again.

>>134105963
FBI pls go

>>134079174
good, stop being a welfare parasite

>>134082900
because fuck your commuist bullshit, work or you dont get shit. health is not a right, its a luxury. stop eating fucking bigmacs every day and maybe the ER wont have to do a quadruple bypass and shove the bill onto taxpayers you selfish stupid fucking cunt. Seriously kys.

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May 6: "Thuh House voted to repeal! Obamuhcare is ded! WE WUN!!! HURR DURR NAYGURS LIBRULS"

((sound of Republicans taking ED meds and slurping each other's cigarette-sized dicks))

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>>134107713

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>>134107713

>>134105240

there isn't gonna be tax reform.

No repeal, no tax cuts.

>>134108084
>>134108861

Sucks losing, doesn't it? Cheer up, Pence might escape the impeachment and imprisonment that are coming to the Trump crime family. Maybe.

I've been beating off to MSNBC every day this week.

>>134105240

Trump is not gonna take this defeat easily.

We might see...
- government shutdown
- vetoes

Trump is gonna want payback. Steve Bannon's stock may have just gone up.

He's going to want to scalp everyone who has defied him.

Ryan and McConnel think Trump doesn't have the balls to put them on the spot and force the shutdown.

If he doesn't put the fear of god into them, he won't get shit.

He wants RINOs to pay in 2018, he has to shut down the government.

>>134109800
go back to buzzkill faggot

if they can't repeal Obamacare, what makes you think they'll be able to come up with a budget, tax reform, or any other sort of shit.

The cucks have succeeded in cockblocking Trump as much as possible until 2018.

Trump's only recourse is to force a shutdown and starve people out... get people angry.

>>134105123
Yes, let's follow the lead of every other first world country by taking in as many refugees as we can too.

>>134110141
So mad.
Enjoying the superiority.

>>134091955
>Flag hung backward

>GOVERNMENT DOESN'T WORK
>GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO ANYTHING
>GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE STARVED UNTIL ITS DEAD
>HEY HOW COME THIS SHIT IS SO HARD

>>134088958
>Yes but it was a Republican idea re-branded by Obongo

Only one idea, the mandate, could ever be considered a "Republican idea," and even then it was taken from Mittens in Massachusetts where Republican there means not a fucking communist.

>>134091955
>Our country is going to be great again.
either that or he will use his time in office to enrich his personal financial status and that of his wealthy friends by sowing confusion and chaos in the two political parties.

IT's pretty simple really, they need to hold the full repeal vote, trump just says thats fine. Any republican that doesn't vote for full repeal will not have his support at midterms and basically he replaces them people who will vote for it.

>>134064468
Not really surprising desu, the same agenda has continued regardless of who is in power since at least the Clinton administration. They're all on the same team just vocally complaining about tiny things the other party does.
With Trump it's just more obvious that their righteous indignation was all bluster since he's actually trying to get their agenda accomplished.

>>134110310
This, Trump needs ammo he can use to paint the GOPe as an ineffectual mess, he needs to set the whole party on fire and openly call for Trumpians to primary GOPe incumbents in 2018

>>134076408
the ass is still hurting after the 8th, boi?

>>134099332
well.. yeah. you're white

>>134064468
This is the most illustrative thing to happen displaying how bad the cuckaserves are. At least they will all be voted out sooner than later now.

>>134112024
This
But he won't. As we slowly and slowly grow more and more disappointed while he further and further embraces Paul Ryan.

>>134111739

Please, Obamacare was carved out of the framework laid by the Heritage Foundation when it helped Congressional Republicans write the Health Equity and Access Reform Act in 1993. They were calling for a purchase mandate, insurance pools, standardized benefits, low income vouchers and a ban on pre-existing conditions just like the ACA does now.

>>134075287
I sure hope so

>>134110596
Flawless logic retard.

>>134111819

Oh no, they won't have the support of a dickless eunuch who would rather watch golf than deliver legislative promises to the voters! Better shape up and fall in line!

>>134098584
>The truth is giving healthcare to those with preexisting conditions isn't actually the plan of Satan
>Strawmanning this hard

No one EVER said that doing this was the reason to oppose Obongocare. If that was all that was needed they could have passed a bill 1 page long describing how health insurers aren't allowed to discriminate anymore.

>>134112525
Itt triggered

>>134112496
Enjoy your parts and parcels.

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>>134068443
>failure
>billionaire
>President of the United States
what did he mean by this?

>>134111739
No.

http://www.jacksonsun.com/story/opinion/columnists/2017/01/21/obamacare-republican-idea/96832966/

It goes back as far as Nixon.

>>134110596
As the literal "country of immigrants", your outrage is ringing hollow.

>>134112829
Probably that (a) he's not a billionaire, (b) he's failed to do anything he said he'd do as president and will, after impeachment, go down as the worst president in us history, and for good measure (c) that his own wife thinks he's disgusting and literally slaps his hand away when he tries to touch her.

For a start.

(By your standards Obama was a huge success, though, right?)

Bill Cassidy must be getting the GREATEST HEAD IN THE UNIVERSE from Susan Collins

>>134110596
Nice non-sequitur, retard

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>>134115200
IMMMMMMPPPPPPEAAAAAAAARRRRCCCHHHHMMMMMMEEEENNNNNNNNTTTTT DDDDDRRRRRWWWWUUUURRRMMMPPPPFFFHHHHHJJJJJJHHJJJJSHSSGGSHSUSUUSJSJJSJSISIISISISKSKSSSJSSSSSHHHHHAAAAAAARRRRRRTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSS

>>134115197
>literal

the intent was to have a government that actually represented the interests of every citizen.
I very much doubt they viewed themselves as "immigrants" when they did not seek to integrate into the native north american 'nations' but rather "invaded" as british colonists wiping out the natives and establishing yet another colony that could provide money to distant brits who didn't give two fucks about anyone's rights or whether they were being represented in Parliament.
No one intelligent or sane would advocate letting the worst of a foreign country to come here and commit a fresh slew of crimes.
But that's what you are advocating.
you don't care about anyone's safety.
or else you would be OKAY with keeping out any enemy agent, saboteur, lobbyist, soldier sworn to kill you or destroy the target country by any means.
right?
or is it "let anyone in because I'm retarded"?
faggot

>>134115422
It's not. It's an example of how doing something because everyone else is doing it is flimsy reasoning and you're supposed to learn this kind of thing in grade school.

>>134092393
who knew healthcare could be so complicated?

I see ShariaBlue is out in full gloat force today

Fuck you GOP and and fuck you Democrats. If d1gits Kim drops tactical nuke on Congress this week

>>134091955
>A political outsider who comes in and destroys both American political parties
>There is no way he is a Russian agent. Why would Putin want him to win??
Really activates my almonds.

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>>134116789

>>134111782
>>134117504
$.05 has been deposited in your accounts. Thank you for correcting the record.

>>134067330
more hilarious that 20 million Americans will die of preventable diseases so Paul Ryan and his buddies can get their 600 billion tax cut. wait till you hear their plan to solve the homeless issue.

>>134112112
well fuck that shit.

>>134064468
>the two republicans that jumped ship are women
>women ruin everything
IMAGYUN MY SHAWK

>>134091955
>completely and utterly shatters the left's reputation as the working class party
They did this themselves the moment they shifted to identity politics and pro LGBTBBQ rights. They thought they could control their pets, but the moment cisgendered men started being attacked by the regressive left wing hate squads was the moment they alienated their former base of working class Americans. The worst part is, they didn't even see it and instead of backtracking and denouncing their own hate groups to recapture their base they doubled down.

>>134116592
Pretty sure he was saying that in the context of it working in every single country that has it.

Which is... well... all of them. All of the first world countries, anyway.

>>134118075
I'm sure they'll have some sort of final solution.

>>134119522
>working
By working you mean the death panel that is the soft no of the unending-waiting list, and situations like Charlie Gard where the parents have the money and the means to take him to the US for private health care but the government says no anyway.

>>134118075
Taxation is theft, and healthcare is a product, not a right.

Sure, you might die of a preventable disease, but at least you'll die free. Better to die free that live under socialism.

>>134116807
this entire thread is a Sharia Blue circlejerk

>democrats ram through partisan legislation and blow up healthcare industry
>feckless controlled opposition party gets into power and (((refuses))) to do anything
>share blue shills gloat like they won something

it wasn't that long ago that people were able to afford health insurance and deductibles and EVERYONE remembers who the fuck got us into this mess. their chances of pawning the healthcare debacle onto republican voters who have opposed the insanity every step of the way are ZERO.

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https://nyti.ms/2vyCGgZ

Welp, there goes that idea.

"Repeal now, replace later" just fell apart, too. Forgive the lack of archive, I'm on mobile.

There really is zero difference between the parties. I remember in 2010 Democrats, almost entirely thanks to Obongo's high charisma stat, obtained a super majority, and that weak ass shit that was ACA was the best we could get. Now we're in 2017 where Republicans have all the power, and these idiots can't provide anything adequate either. Who keeps voting for these inept retards?

>>134112702
Not true people said that to me personally.

>>134120792
This. Shariablue wont win though

>>134064468

Nice, Trump is dividing the Republicans.

>>134092791

Yeah, like saying you'll drain the swam but then filling it with similar people Hillary would have. Funny shit

Hopefully now /pol/ can finally go back to understanding that Republicucks are not our friends.

>>134122204

He's finding out once and for all who's with him and who's against him

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>>134122417

I don't think he actually knows what he's doing. He just bitches about shit and ends up doing the same thing a few years later

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>>134122278
Goldman Sachs a good bank, dey dindu nuffin.

>>134067499

> republicans stop 30 million Americans from being forced to pay for healthcare

Oh nooooo, those bastards!

>>134122527
the game is different, and we are only 6 months in as of thursday. Name a president who has done more, made more headlines, or had more attrition. I can think of none. Republicans did nowhere near the same level of blocking of obama that dems have of trump. This is a total war because dems are dying. They've lost down to the governorships, what's next, municipalities?

>>134122767

This isn't that different, just look at his swamp like I said. He didn't even drain it.

>>134120792
>it wasn't that long ago that people were able to afford health insurance and deductibles and EVERYONE remembers who the fuck got us into this mess.

Reminder that Obamacare is more popular than ever. Reminder that Republicans will have to fuck over millions of people to pass anything. Reminder the reason this is all happening is because Republicans actually like the ACA they just don't like that it's called Obamacare because they're that pathetic and petty.

>>134122767
>Name a president who has done more

What has he done exactly?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/17/us/politics/trump-laws-bills.html
>In fact, as he approaches six months in office on Thursday, Mr. Trump is slightly behind the lawmaking pace for the past six presidents, who as a group signed an average of 43 bills during the same period. And an analysis of the bills Mr. Trump signed shows that about half were minor and inconsequential, passed by Congress with little debate. Among recent presidents, both the total number of bills he signed and the legislation’s substance make Mr. Trump about average.

>>134123216
But muh tweets

>>134123216
>The president includes in his count laws like the one to rename the federal courthouse in Nashville after Fred Thompson, the actor and former senator who died in 2015. Even the Republican leadership in the Senate does not count those kinds of bills when they tally their legislative achievements.
>By contrast, Mr. Trump’s tally includes three laws to appoint members to the Smithsonian Board of Regents, another to seek research into better weather reports, and one to require the Department of Homeland Security to manage its fleet of vehicles more efficiently.
>Mr. Trump has signed two budget bills that would be required of any president. He signed a law largely endorsing the budget for NASA that Mr. Obama had laid out. And Mr. Trump temporarily extended Mr. Obama’s program that gives veterans a choice of seeing a private doctor in certain cases.

Truly we should all be tired of so much winning.

>>134105963
Kek
You elected a senile fat lazy shitbag who shills for his own interest, then cry about no results

>>134067869
>going to get the boot in the midterms
yeah, and a repub could never ever win the white house against the oh-soooooooooooo-progressive Hillary, amirite?
you guys are pathetic

>>134122527

The thing is we have a political system that's not wanting to work in the best interest of it's citizens but who can block who when it comes to proposed bills.

>>134123701

>its

Fixed

>>134123644
>Goldman Sachs Clinton
>progressive

Only if your definition of 'progressive' is "anything to the left of fringe right." She's a neoliberal so deeply entrenched in the establishment that she literally lived in the White House for eight years already.

The political fault line isn't left vs. right anymore. It's not even authoritarian vs. libertarian.

Its establishment vs. populism, with left and right mostly fighting over who gets to replace the establishment when it inevitably dies.

>>134123948

Make that 16 years. The 8 years with Bill in the White House.

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>>134064468
Traitors, pissing away the greatest opportunity they have ever had.

Trump is playing the long game.
I know he's got our back on this one.
When the time comes he's going to burn the "republicans" for their crimes.

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Let if fail...let the Dems tie it ever harder around their necks, empty the tub but leave enough water so it drowns.

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Eddie haskell will fail and a scandal will unfold that removes him from office, the Ryan Prophecy of 2017 will come true.

>>134122941
>Republicans actually like the ACA they just don't like that it's called Obamacare because they're that pathetic and petty.
How revisionist considering they're the ones who started calling it that in the first place. His response was "Go ahead, I like that."

"I Mean, Have You Seen the Other Guys?" Is an Official 2018 Democrat Slogan
https://youtu.be/qHJz5TGFNcI

>>134124531
That was the whole idea. See: >>134085750

>>134123625
4
MORE
YEARS

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Healthcare "Reform" Fails Again: Trump Encourages Total Repeal as Alternative
https://youtu.be/uesIZg4nBeQ

Trump's going to shove a big fat nothing healthcare dildo up the Dems asses and call it a colonoscopy.

Then we have the McCain no show surgery right at time of vote, maybe he could have phoned in his vote.

>>134125799
>McCain

He's a toad and a traitor and hope he meets his maker sooner rather than later.

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>>134064468
I thought we were going to have something terrific. That covered everyone. That's what Trump promised. McConnell's bill must have sucked.

Trump should punish McConnell.

>>134126419
That turtle looking nigger is Trump's biggest sycophant and dickrider, he properly knows his place as Trump's pet. The issue is his party, just like most of the democrats, is wholly incompetent and probably should just be gotten rid of entirely. I personally wouldn't punish an animal for not being smart enough to obey orders, it's doing its best, but there simply isn't enough intellect to get it done.

Let's not forget the Republican dominated house of reps had an even less appealing alternative than the senate bill. I pity anyone who becomes president with this band of mouthbreathers, no wonder nothing substantial ever gets done.

Reminder that repealing obamacare is just a distraction from the bigger back room deal: repealing net neutrality.

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>filters thru neo cons failing and bitching

lol have the SC the house the senate and the white house... still cant do shit

why the fuck does anyone still vote republican? you have to be a special kind of stupid to like taking it up the ass so much

>>134127004
you mean we go back to the way things were before 2015? Oh no!

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>>134064468
Trump don't care. He's looking for a used up Putin slut. Yummy.

>>134110310
>Trump's only recourse is to force a shutdown and starve people out... get people angry.

Worked wonders for Chris Christie, and the Republicans last time and again in the 90's.

Oh wait...

>>134082049
Except that the ACA is literally the conservative plan for health care. See Romneycare.

>>134076408
Fatbee is a registered trademark of Goonswarm. The Mittani sends his regards.

>>134124531
Reminder that Obamacare is only "failing" in a handful of red states where it's being actively sabotaged by the state government. But hey, if the Republicans think the way to win is to kill off their own voters then more power to 'em, I say.

>>134128097
>ACA is literally the conservative plan
please look up the definitions for 'literally' and 'conservative'

>See Romneycare
Romney =/= conservative

>>134106424
>health is a luxury

>>134128468
Its actually failing in states that accepted the medicaid expansion, the states that did not accept it are doing far better. Why? Because states are finding themselves on the hook for more of the expanded subsidy every passing year.

It is like a drug dealer (feds) giving you the first hit for free, then giving you your first baggie for a third of the cost, the next is half off, and finally you're addicted and paying the full price.

>>134067671
except that is patently false. there were hundreds of hearings on obamacare. not one for this abomination of a bill

>majority congress republican
>republican in wh
>still blames dems when republicans back out of passing a bill that is clearly flawed

>>134068309
>rich people only pay taxes

my check stub begs to differ you moron

we need to start attacking rinos not just dems
sick of these fuckers

>>134064468
Shariablue tsunami today.

I think they're worried something, spending so much cash today.

>>134128993
You've either been lied to or are lying yourself, probably the former. Go dig up some primary sources away from the media's influence and report back.

>>134064468
It was obvious that they wouldn't repeal. If they remove Obama Care, there will be no GOP in 2020. Trump will loose outright if OC fails. It was just a show.

republicans are a joke , they cried for so many years , " MUH OBAMACARE MUH THIS MUH THAT " fucking faggots , i hope they loose next time .

>>134128468
I've worked for the marketplace in the past and this is true. The states that are against obamacare are always the states whose governor refuses to use medicaid grant money for medicaid or expand access to healthcare. They sabotaged the fuck out of it and can't even come up with a proper replacement
>>134129360
He's just throwing numbers around with no factual source man, it's what people do

>>134067671
If we don't destroy the middle class how can the Democrats survive?

>>134129108
>there were hundreds of hearings on obamacare
lol Democratic staff for the House oversight committee locked their GOP counterparts out of the committee's hearing room.

When Obama promised televised negotiations for the health care law, but that didn’t happen. Instead, his administration reached agreements behind closed doors with the drug industry and hospitals. In Congress, some of the committee bill writing sessions were open, but the most substantial negotiations took place privately, before bills came to committee or the House or Senate floor.

>not one for this abomination of a bill
Obamacare and what the republicans are pushing through reconciliation are two different animals

>>134129813
Yea, one insures millions and the other takes it away for tax breaks for the wealthy, I get it joe dirt

Democracy doesn't work, clearly. We need an autocracy. Trump just needs to bite the bullet, declare martial law, have all of his enemies arrested. Only then can we MAGA.

>>134129937
>Yea, one insures millions and the other takes it away for tax breaks for the wealthy,

wow, because the same can be said about the healthcare system before Obamacare, which ripped millions away from their insurance plans and gave tax exemptions to big corporations.

>>134130650
and you think that was cool? that it worked out totally fine and millions of uninsured people didn't die every year from preventable illness? what about promoting the general welfare?

you aren't a patriot if you want fellow countrymen to die because they can't afford insurance

>inb4 muh tax dollars!
>everyone pays taxes you dope, we all do, the mandatory insurance thing was to make sure everyone paid their due and you still complained

>>134129813
>When Obama promised televised negotiations for the health care law, but that didn’t happen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofWahDMEMJs

You're full of shit.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/10/us/republican-health-care-process.html
>But so far, Republican lawmakers have had just nine days of public activity on the repeal bill, compared with 43 for the Affordable Care Act during the same six-month period.
>Republican lawmakers have spent just two days debating policies related to their bill on the House floor. The Senate, so far, has spent none, and is planning to vote on the bill as soon as the leaders have enough votes to pass it. The Affordable Care Act was debated on the House and Senate floors for 31 days before the bill passed.

>>134131111
don't even try quints, facts don't work when alternate facts exist, welcome to orwellian hell

>>134131111

Also I'd love to see Trump have the balls to do something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1-jasxb7NY

>>134122941
I haven't had health insurance through my job in 3 years nigger

would you like to guess why?

>>134129357
sharia blue flood /pol/ whenever a big story breaks. they do this to disrupt discussion, force their shitty narratives, and hopefully influence newcomers

>>134131474
your employer is fucking greedy and doesn't take care of their employees? too bad, free market capitalism

>>134131474

And I didn't have health insurance before Obamacare. Me and about 20 million other people. Maybe if Republicans were willing to help fix Obamacare instead of throwing me and everyone else off of insurance we could both be happy?

>>134131611
>I can't afford insurance!
>get a new job then lazy nigger

this is what most poltards would say to anyone else in any discussion

>>134131642
>pass shitty job killing/health insurance killing legislation
>blame private business owners when it goes tits up

no

It's cheaper for me to not have insurance and pay the fine

thanks niggers

>>134131905
>health insurance killing

you're really gonna try and say that more americans aren't insured? really? why should I give a fuck about insurance companies and businesses not making a killing off of the suffering of others? that's the opposite of what a decent human being wants

but we live in a monetary society and ethics don't matter to anyone, so you see a corporation losing money as the victim

>>134124775

There's nothing revisionist about it, Republicans are that dumb. They tied to Obama because they figured it would be unpopular and surprise, when you poll people on specific aspects of the ACA they by a large number support it but the second you call it Obamacare suddenly, ooo bad because I don't like Obama and can't accept him doing anything positive.

>>134130914
>you aren't a patriot if you want fellow countrymen to die because they can't afford insurance
People don't deserve things they can't afford.

>>134130914
>promoting the general welfare
>promoting
not PROVIDING, learn the difference

>millions of uninsured people... died every year from preventable illness
millions died..., lol thats simply a lie

>everyone pays taxes you dope
yep, and then a considerable amount of people receive a check paying out more than they paid (i.e. they paid NOTHING but got something)

>the mandatory insurance thing was to make sure everyone paid their due
Unless you were a major corporation that got an exemption, and where in the constitution does it say insurance is mandatory and everyone must pay their due?

>>134131474
>>134132169
tell that to this guy, he seems to have an odd sense of entitlement

also this is a democracy, maybe learn something about what that means instead of implementing autocratic laws

People must realise that MAGA is bigger than Trump and the Republicans.

If they are not willing to carry it out then we must find other avenues.

Destroy the Democrat Party and shortly after that, destroy the Republican establishment too.

>>134132272
stfu joe dirt no one cares, insurance companies weren't a thing in 1776 you fucking moron, but if you think taking insurance away from people PROMOTES welfare you clearly have comprehension issues

>>134064516
Unfiltered that for you
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/07/18/daily-202-after-senate-bill-falls-apart-republicans-don-t-have-the-votes-to-repeal-obamacare/596d301fe9b69b7071abcb63/?utm_term=.5c5092b627d7

>>134132272
>yep, and then a considerable amount of people receive a check paying out more than they paid (i.e. they paid NOTHING but got something)

AKA Donald Trump.

>>134132563
^ but that's just playing the system, right guys?

>>134132292
>also this is a democracy
No, it's a republic.

>>134099332
I bet you wish you were getting some of dat obamacare in you right now huh boi.

>>134132433
>insurance companies weren't a thing in 1776
neither was taxing our income, thats why it required an AMENDMENT, not some half-baked Supreme Court excuse

>taking insurance away from people
But Obamacare TOOK AWAY insurance for people, plenty of people had their plans cancelled and lost the coverage but are not covered by the Obamacare subsidy and therefor must pay more for insurance or pay the "fine" to go without. What about them? How did Obamacare promote their general welfare? It didn't.

>>134064468

Good.

This will give more motivation for populist upsetters to remove longstanding incumbents and RINOS.

>>134115197
It was 90% white until the 60s by design.

The Founders were, correctly, racist.

>>134102026
Yeah apparently letting a large portion of their voting base die from treatable conditions because they didn't want to go into extreme debt is hard to just shrug

>>134105625
What dimension have you been browsing pol in?

>>134132563
he paid more than Obama per his leaked tax return

>>134064468
Well we do call them cuckservatives for a reason. This is actually extremely embarrassing to watch go down.

>Won't vote for a clean repeal
>Won't vote for a replacement
>Ignore rand and ron pauls advice

These people are fucking useless

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>>134122527
This has been a fun game.

Can't wait for the next three and 1/2 years.

>>134132861
yea especially in mitch's ky. that state alone uses more government gimmie dats than anywhere else and he really thinks taking it away is a good career move

>>134128993
That's not remotely true.

>>134131759
about 300 million people have had their rates and deductibles doubled or even tripled so you can have insurance

that is akin to sinking the titanic so that a few lifeboats can have safe passage in the wreckage

>>134076408
>Shareblue
>Goon
pottery

>>134127739
>bulge

>>134067671
>They excluded republicans in the creation of ObamaCare

https://www.dpcc.senate.gov/?id=328&p=issue

>>134082049
Fake news shit head

There were nearly 150 meetings before hand and multiple features that were implemented by republicans before it was policy. Stop believing all the bullshit click and actually try to learn about things.

>>134133110
Well when you time everybody up on a bunch of different topics it's easy to convince them that only the LAZY poor people won't get help

>>134133034
Yeah that's because he makes far more money. Holy fucking shit this place is a joke.

Then again I should have known the rebel flag obviously cancels out any potential for math skills

>>134132169
Capitalizing on the sick and dying

There's no glory in your ideology you people are fucking scum

>>134134959
>if you don't want to be forced to subsidize other peoples' health care you're scum
Someone's figuratively holding the gun here and it isn't me.