Dunkirk

>>134058028
Fuck Nazis. This movie will be lit

>>134058323
You do understand that Hitler stopped advancing for Dunkirk because he wanted a peace treaty with the brittish?
But i guess Churchill wanted a war.
Yeah Nazis are the evil guys...

Reviews seem to say it's just about the chaos of the Dunkirk evacuation and it doesn't say much about the war itself, or the evil natsees.

btw Nolan isn't jewish and directs, produces, and writes his own movies.

>>134058436
You realise Hitler only didn't want war with the English because he felt English people were either Celtic or German. He had purely racial reasons...

>>134058436
Sorry, I forgot I was on 4chan.


Heil Hitler

>>134058843
so? its not a bad reason

>>134058843
>he didn't want war against his own kind

Wow, truly a monster.

>>134058889
>>134058910
No one should want war at all and should be a last resort. If I were Hitler, I'd sooner openly embezzle the government money into the Nazi party, declare bankruptcy and then put the money back into the treasury.

People will still hate you, but less people will die.

>>134058699
Hopefully you are right, Nolan makes great movies and I would hate to see him making an easy cash grab and political points.

>>134058847
I dont say the Nazis were great, it's just that in most movies its blown out of proportion.
Hitler didnt want to start a war with poland, he didnt want a war with the brittish, he didnt have extermination camps as there is proof of. And so on...

>>134059014
People died because of other countries felt threatened by a rising nation.

>>134058436
>You do understand that Hitler stopped advancing for Dunkirk because he wanted a peace treaty with the brittish?
[citation needed]
Also, Wehraboo dindunuffinfags can get fucked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wormhoudt_massacre

>>134058323
>>134058889
>>134059014

Watching it at Melbourne Museum on Friday lads.

>>134059014
>No one should want war at all and should be a last resort

He didn't want war with the British nor did he start the war with them. If you want to shake your fist at someone over it then that would be best directed at Churchill.

>>134059134
No one cares about nations rising so long as tariffs aren't involved, regardless the motivation for invading France was the Versailles treaty which I'll accept was not a fair cease fire.

>>134059315
He invaded Poland which triggered a treaty with Britain. He invaded Poland due to reports of Germans being mistreated in Danzig corridor.

>>134059151
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_war_crimes_during_World_War_II

War crimes will always exist.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/786093/Hitler-Nazi-Germany-Battle-of-Dunkirk-World-War-2-peace-treaty-British-Winston-Churchill

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2433733/How-Nazis-offered-peace-treaty-World-War-II-meant-selling-Russians.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/10336126/Nazis-offered-to-leave-western-Europe-in-exchange-for-free-hand-to-attack-USSR.html

Of course Hitler wanted to attack Russia, Stalin was a force to be reckon with, he also broke several promises with Germany costing german lives.

>>134059315
From what I remember the Germans bombed the British to have them surrender and than one night on a raid a couple bombs landed off target not killing civilians (yet) but a urban farm of some sorts and Churchill used state as his reason to start raids against the Germans.
This is information from David Irving and although his name is tarnished now he seemed alright for a time.

>>134058436
Hitler wanted peace so much Hess had to escape his grasp eh?

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>>134058028
They always are like that cause producers are a mainstream marionettes of what liberal lefty people like to hear, so this one is not an exception.

>>134059598
Hess and Hitler wanted peace with the brittish. Both tried. None succeeded.

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>>134058028
It makes my angry that this kind of insignificant shit is made into a movie because they were anglos. Why not make a movie about the battle of kursk?

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>>134059151
hello fellow victor

>>134059787
Will Finland ever get its land back and Germany Konigsburg?

Harry Styles is cute af!

>>134058028
I wonder if we will get a mention or be forgotten to history yet again.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/51st_(Highland)_Division#France_1940

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkforce

>>134058436
just like clockwork

muh nazi hold back

>>134058028
You know there's no way it'll paint them in a positive light, at best it'll mostly ignore them and have them asking a plot device.

>>134059151
That's a total myth, the Dunkirk advance was stopped because the Germans were notorious for outrunning their supply lines and their Panzer divisions went well ahead of their infantry divisions, the pause was given so that the infantry could catch up to the armored divisions. It's a German logistical/strategic error which gave the British and French a window to escape. That and the Mostly French and British rearguard action bought them much needed time also.

keep dreaming wehraboo

>>134060308
whoops wrong guy

>>134059479
You know what I don't see there? SHOOTING UNARMED WHITE PRISONERS.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/786093/Hitler-Nazi-Germany-Battle-of-Dunkirk-World-War-2-peace-treaty-British-Winston-Churchill
Uninformed speculation

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2433733/How-Nazis-offered-peace-treaty-World-War-II-meant-selling-Russians.html
Claims based on the translation of a notebook written by one of Hess' friends eight years after the fact.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/10336126/Nazis-offered-to-leave-western-Europe-in-exchange-for-free-hand-to-attack-USSR.html
A repeat of the second link.

You got anything else? The fact is that Hitler's chimpout reduced the continent to rubble and was directly responsible for the removal of right-wing governments in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Hungary, Yugoslavia, Romania, Albania, Bulgaria and Germany and their replacement with colonial communist regimes. Hitler was a catastrophe for those opposing communism.

>>134059014

>embezzle the govt money into Nazi party

Didn't Germany kick out all the jewish bankers and secrete societies and then become one of the wealthiest, powerhouse economies at the time?

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This movie is going to be fucking amazing. I look forward to not seeing a single black throughout it.

>>134059787
>Why not make a movie about the battle of kursk?

Nobody has money to do it properly. The battle was absolutely fucking massive and large part of its "charm" comes from that enormous scale.

>>134059855

Heт, they can get some nukes over helsinki and turku, nothing more

>>134058028

>PG-13 war drama about the Dunkirk disaster

What to expect:

>2 hour long talk about girlfriends waiting at home
>not a single drop of blood, during war
>not a single "curse" word, during war

Not gonna spend a single cent for this piece of garbage.

>>134058436

hitler stopped advancing because contrary to 4chan memes, the french actually put SOME resistance and ze germans couldnt get to Dunkirk in time to murder everybody.

Only hollywood can spin the biggest Allied military disaster in WW2 into a fucking love story.

Hey, i know, at least it's not D-Day for the millionth time, but it'd be nice to see something else than a fucking love story.

>>134061774
>implying they won't include token African native corps and American black units
They will find a way.

>>134061774

yeah that scene kind of proves the movie will suck, these extras arent worth 1$.

the movie is under criticism for being to white.


ahhhh hello! it was 1940's europe fucktards!

>>134059473
France declared war on Germany you retarded faggot.

>>134061862
Turku and Helsinki need some cleansing hellfire desu

>>134060308
Wrong.

>>134060473
t. eternal Anglo

>>134061960
it's a christopher nolan movie. pretty sure historic accuracy will be important to him. and his movies are not riddled with sjw shit at all. i hope it stays that way. his movies are great.

lets get something correct people.

brits evacuated france because of the forward advance of nazi's.

they went back to britain and resupplied, got their numbers back up and launch successive retaliation offensives back on the european mainland.

there is nothing honourable about leaving 100's of thousands of troops to stop a forward advance from the enemy.

>>134062038
No.

Germany started a war against Poland without formal declaration until after the attack and France(together with Britain) honored their guarantees and declared war against Germany 2 days later.

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>>134058436
>>134060308
This is cited.

Where's yours besides your ass?

>>134058028
it will just be a shit movie about shit noone cares about.

their going all out before the studios are bankrupt.

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>>134062274

>PG-13 war movie
>no blood
>no vulgarities

nigger please.

>>134062377

The Brits are lucky, if the UK wasnt an island hitler would be drinking tea in the buckingham palace a week after his victory parade in Paris.

>>134062285
You're forgetting the whole December 7, 1941 part.

>>134062320
yeah, that's what happen when you have fun time humiliating a country like the post-WW1 Germany.
>ahahah eat shit german cucks
>ahahahah muh danzing corridor

>>134062320
Honor the guarantees they made after Germany was already mobilizing for war?

No sweetie, Germany wasn't the aggressor.

>>134062884
*tip*

>>134062884

>Germany wasn't the aggressor.

it was, stop rewriting history to make yourself feel better.

try saying that on /his, they will fuck you up.

>>134058028
It's not even based on historical facts. Dunkirk was a shitty mistake by Hitler, not some sort of master plan to kill 400.000 soldiers with no losses. Also there were basically zero civilian ships used by civilians in the evacuation.

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>>134058028
>Retarded Britbongs unironically believe they were the good guys in WWII
>Their XX. century hero is an alcoholic fat warmonger retard who fucked up the UK for good.
The death of (((the West))) can't come soon enough.

>>134062884
Yes, Germany was already mobilizing.

They borrowed so much money from Rothschilds for their military industrial complex that Allies thought they're going to slow it down in 1939(otherwise they would go bankrupt!) but it didn't happen.

Piłsudski was right, French should've listened and helped us to take them down back in 1933.

>>134058028
Why didn't Germany finish them off? I'm interested to hear pol's ideas.

>entire plot is about retreating

are we sure this isn't a french production?

>>134058028
Nazis win in the end here atleast.
Fun seeing all those anglos running away.

>>134063429

The french got castrated in WW1, they probably knew very well hitler needs to brought down ASAP, but didnt do anything about it.

>>134063390
if that was all that germany wanted why did they take france and push all the way to the Volga?

>>134063529

germans didnt get there in time, overstretched their forces.
by the time they got their shit together, the Allied already got to the other side of the channell.

>>134063717
Might have had something to do with France declaring war on Germany

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>>134063089
>Listening to anything /his/ shills say

>>134062465
Its rate M for mature audiences.
Won't be as good as Hacksaw Ridge

British losers LOOOOOL
fled away like bitches you are currently

>>134060473
>Hitler was a catastrophe for those opposing communism.
lel, yeah because jewish communists won the war. blame the allies for being subverted and made into jewish golems, not hitler.

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>>134063937

dont like facts, eh?
heil hitler, heil hitler!!!

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>>134058028

A nice historical movie with actual airplanes from that time.

It will be a great movie for someone who likes avionics and WWII.
Stormfags can fuck off with their shitler.

>>134063938

PG-13.

Just googled it.

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>>134064022
They might as well be the Jews of 4chan. Don't like when people don't take your narrative for granted?

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>it's another wehraboos think Hitler let the British/French evacuate to try and secure a peace treaty

You know what would secure a peace treaty? Killing or capturing the entire expeditionary force.

If he was letting them escape as a gesture of good will, why the constant aerial harrassment, massive casualties due to Stuka bombings, etc.

No, his generals told him his infantry was not in a position to push the envelope, they needed days to regroup and resupply. The only force that would be able to assault the pocket at that point was his panzer forces which would have resulted in a pyrrhic victory at best, and so they held back and allowed the Luftwaffe to attack them with impunity from the air.

>>134063709
French had mostly a political problem. The interwar years for France were wasted all together, aside from Maginot line there were no wide programs meant to modernize the army against German threat. They've finally made up their mind in 1934 or so even though clandestine rearmament of Germany was going on for years at that point. They also completely failed at actually executing the reparations they demanded form Weimar, and all of this happened because they've had 2 decades long unspoken political crisis.
>>134063390
Yeah Hitler only wanted to stop the occupation of Rheinland, no reason to start a war over it!
And then he only wanted to take Austria, no need to start war over it!
And then Sudetenland, no need to start a war over it!
OOOOOPS he partitioned Czechoslovakia, no need to start a war over it!
Oh wait Memel? Who cares about Memel, it's not worth to start a war over a meme!
Danzig corridor? Who cares about that, it's not worth to start a war over it!

Now ask yourself how long it would take before they would demand German-populated parts of Hungary.

I think we're gonna get hero fatigue; how many times can you watch young soldiers on the screen suffer heroically before you just don't give a shit anymore?

>>134064241

>They might as well be the Jews of 4chan. Don't like when people don't take your narrative for granted?

sooooo, you cant rebuke even 1 of their arguments, sooooo

>jews!
>kikes!
>shills

dont forget to heil hitler, heil hitler!!!

fucking cuck.

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>>134063717
>If someone declares war on you, you attack them
Who could've foreseen this?
About the USSR:
>USSR annexes Bessarabia
>Starts mobilizing on the Soviet-German border
>Starts throwing armies to Europe from the Far-East
>Germany knows this, Operation Sea Lion is dropped, most units are transported tot he Eastern borders
>Germans carry out a preventive attack, since it's pretty obvious the USSR will attack sooner or later, and if that happens, Berlin will most likely fall in weeks

>>134064296

hitler and germans were a rabid dog, everybody knew that, but stormfags on a mongolian throat singing board 80 years later, seem to know better, lmao.

>>134064354
You can look for heroes somewhere else, mostly in writing.
Boethius, Tertullian, Dante, John Milton... such and such.

>>134062430
Found the liberal faggot

>>134058028
all ww2 movies are like that

>>134064591
>Starts throwing armies to Europe from the Far-East
This didn't happen.

There is not a single year in which the soviets reduced the amount of soldiers they've had on Manchurian/Japanese Border since the two big border incidents in 1938 and 1939.

>>134064405
Actually rebuked one of their arguments in regards to the targeting of ethnic Germans by polish citizens and authorities. The /his/ shill believed the initial report detailing it was released by the propaganda minister, to which I corrected him by showing him that it was a doctor and historian who originally brought it to attention.

Being a little like rat that /his/ shills (you) are, he never replied and chose to ignore that he was 100%, factually wrong on the subject. Shows how much you little autismos actually know (or choose to believe).

>MUH HISTORIANS MUH HISTORIANS
Get the fuck out of here you stupid cunt.

>>134064662
>what is Generation war
>What is 1944

>>134063390
As I recall, Germany was also trying to take some land to the east. Can't think of the country though.

>>134064591
>Germany knows this, Operation Sea Lion is dropped, most units are transported tot he Eastern borders
>Operation Sea Lion is dropped
>17 october 1940
>German invasion
>22 june 1941
>>134063390
If allies declared war for Anschluss, you'd tell now "Hitler only wanted Austria"
If allies declared war for Czechoslovakia, you'd tell now "Hitler only wanted sudetes"

>>134064833
Doesn`t matter, since the 1918 the russians that were communists all deserved to die.
What the english and the allies did after the war was a mistake, they should`ve kept going until they destroyed every single soviet after Hitler.
Until they killed Stalin as well, but "MUH PR" and not a single ignorant fuck being able to speak russian to tell what was happening.

>>134065034
And the russians who knew english and weren`t from the party mostly saved themselves, and even the ones that escaped Gulags and told people what was happening, were counter argumented by the communists that lied 24/7.

>>134065034
I thought all nazis after WW2 fled to Argentina, not Brazil

>>134065023
The only good russians were the ones that killed other russians in the red army during the war.
And since none of those survived, there are no good russian blood on the land, except the few that left.

>>134065141
I`m not a nazi, both Hitler and the Red Army, every single one of them, deserved to die for what you did to your people.

>>134065141
Nope. Argentina is most common but others fled to Paraguay and Brazil. Joseph Mengele died and was buried in Brazil.

>>134064257
this webm needs either Robocop or Terminator soundtrack

>>134058436
>this is what stormfags actually believe

>>134064296
>occupation of Rheinland
People don't really like when enemies occupy their Western territories. This is justified in my book
>Austria
Let's drop the Austrians are not German meme. Austrians wanted the Anschluss as much as Germans, since 1918. It was banned for a reason in Versailles
>Sudetenland
It was mostly German, and Czechoslovakians treated everyone who wasn't Slavic like shit. Justified in my book
>Annexation of Czechia
The only thing that isn't justified in my book. This annexation was only because of historical reasons.
>Memel
Lithuanians pretty much stole that land from Germany in 1918.
>Danzig corridor
Separating parts of a country is not normal, ffs, Everyone knew this can't go on forever. I bet the Entente did this on purpose, to provoke a war between Germany and Poland in the future

Honestly, most of these were territories taken form Germany in Versailles

>>134059045
>Nolan makes great movies
no such thing ever happened, you bullprepping sven
bet it won't even be a movie about the eternal backstabbing anglo

>>134062595
> if the UK wasnt an island hitler would be drinking tea in the buckingham palace a week after his victory parade in Paris.

If the UK wasn't an island, the whole of world history would be very different. Similarly, if my Auntie Joyce had a cock and balls she'd be my uncle.

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Anyone thinking Nazis weren't absolute dipshits should be euthanized.

>>134064591
why would they invade Germany (a country that had just driven the allies off continental Europe) after Stalin had purged the army and were humiliated in the winter war?

>>134064852

> targeting of ethnic Germans by polish citizens and authorities.

oh, you mean the beatings on ze peaceful germans that happened 3 days after the war started, at which point nobody gave a fuck?

fuck off shitler shill.

>>134060308

According to Guderian (page 117 of Panzer Leader, Noontide Press 1990 printing): "Hitler ordered the left wing to stop on the Aa. It was forbidden to cross that stream. We were not informed of the reasons for this. The order contained the words: 'Dunkirk is to be left to the Luftwaffe.' "

Guderian went on a tour of the front to ensure that the orders were being carried out, and found that some of his units had already crossed the stream. Their supply situation at that time was also unexpectedly good. They had moved quickly and wasted little in their advance. They also had just captured all of the fuel and fuel trucks of like three or four countries and had mostly intact roads and bridges with which to move them around.

I can't say if Hitler was hoping to avoid a war, or if he was just letting his air crews get some practice (or if he had been convinced, incorrectly, that air power alone could win the day - a lesson that American leaders have to re-learn every few years).

Guderian, and many, many others felt that it was a huge mistake to let them get away. Capturing the British force would have given Hitler leverage to take England out of the war. Letting them get away did nothing for Germany.

>>134058028
The movie will be historically inaccurate with "we wuz fitin' in Dunkirk n' sheet" where in all actuality the only reason they lived was the mercy of the Nazi forces. They could have moved their troops up a couple miles and wiped out the entire low moral and low supplied forces at Dunkirk. Maybe they'll show who truly was the most moral person that day (Hitler) but they'll make everyone but him seem like the hero.

>>134065432

ok? what was the point of your retarded post?

are you implying the british were not absolutely raped and steamrolled, and you only still speak english because you live on an island?

aunts with balls being uncles aint a world shattering surprise, either.

>>134058436
Hitler ordered the Wehrmacht to hold back because their supply lines were overstretched and they needed time to catch up, also the French made some threatening movements and he feared getting caught in a pincer. Also Goering (again) promised Hitler that he could neutralise Allied resistance on the beaches from the air.

>>134064591
>Starts throwing armies to Europe from the Far-East

This didn't happen. In fact troops were being moved in the opposite direction to warn off the Japanese threat to Siberia. Hence why them being moved back to defend Moscow was so decisive.

>>134065604

>only reason they lived was the mercy of the Nazi forces.

literally all the 100 posts above yours are saying otherwise, retarded shitler shill.

>>134063390

Churchill was a cunt.

http://www.filmsforaction.org/articles/the-crimes-of-winston-churchill-england-celebrates-their-genocides/

https://youtu.be/294lq_JpvpQ

http://hitlerorchurchill.info/

>>134065500
Also, it wasn't German civilians, it was Germans living in Poland that formed a Nazi militia and attacked a polish army convoy and then got BTFO

>>134058028

(((Who))) is making this movie? All of WW2 History is a bunch of forgeries on top of actual events. The holocaust was entirely fabricated by Soviets on top of their own atrocities, like at Katyn.

That's why in the early 2000's, the number of holocaust victims suddenly dropped by almost 3 million, but the total is of course still 6 million goyim.

>>134065662
If Britain wasn't an island, literally everything would be different - we probably wouldn't have been a maritime power, it's quite possible England would never even have existed as a political unit. It's just not a helpful conjecture, it's like saying "What if Germany had a population of 200 million?", or "What if the Mediterranean was a desert?"

tl;dr - islands have smaller armies and bigger navies

>>134058028
Apparently you don't see a Nazi in the whole movie.

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>>134059151
>80 POWs
Ay lmao it's literally nothing.

>>134059819
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""victor""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Lmao.

>>134065355
>Prussians take territories from Poland in a pure land-grab
>territories which were part of Polish state for a millennium
>lmao cool whatever
>those territories separate after Germans get wrecked
>*sad violin noises*
Germboos are the biggest retards outside of Africa in existence today.
I'll say it again, you should be euthanized. I'm not mad you're defending your idols, I'm mad because you're so insane and idiotic you think you'll change anything by crying on Laotian puppetry forum.
Fuck Germans, they started world war, they lost, they did it again, they lost. End of story. They were shown far more mercy than anyone else in history. Any German crying about muh injustice while his grandfather burned villages alive should be deported to fucking Siberia to dig holes.

>>134062595
> Brits are lucky because they live on an island
> Russians are lucky because of winter

They're not it's just that germans should plan their wars better

>>134062035

NNNNYEEESSSS GOYIM REMEMBER WHO THE BAD GUYS WERE, THE NAZIS, TOTALLY NOT (((US))) WHO MURDERED PATTON FOR WRITING A DIARY THAT TOLD THE TRUTH

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbp61fOVFaE&index=17&list=PL0GfvwQ6PY1olHR_IgFW1m8mClrMV__En

>>134066025
Oh, and just to add, Germans are a dying nation, a nation of emasculated faggots, who are guilt-tripped into ruin.
They'll never be in a position to do anything again. If I were you I'd stop sucking their cock so much, they are losers of history.

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>>134065500
>If I try to twist it to suit the official narrative, it will look like Germany forcefully entered Poland completely unprovoked!
>Shitler shill
>Coming from a literal shill
You're fooling no one with that White Supremacist flag, faggot. Continue with the "Le ebil nahtzee" stories, be a good little goytoy :^)

>>134059151
>>134059598
>>134060308
>>134060473

These posts where paid for by The Foucs.

>>134065490
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_offensive_plans_controversy
>why would they invade German
because the Soviets didn't want a strong Germany in Europe. The ideological differences were too sharp, war was inevitable between Germany and the USSR
>after Stalin had purged the army and were humiliated in the winter war
The Red Army operated with masses of soldier, not with logic and tactics.

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>Germany won the war

Fact check that for me.

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>>134066025

This post warms my heart.

>>134065988
>Country literally gets cut in 4 and occupied for 80 years

We chose to give up our empire anyway, we left most of it 20 years after we won. Besides, Australia, NZ and Canada have always been mostly independent.

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>>134066192

>shill
>shill
>shill
>goytoy
>faggot

what a compelling argument, thanks, bro!!!

>>134058843
Remind me, who declared war on whom?

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>>134064022

>Poland didn't occupy huge swathes of Germany after ww1

Zionists killed ~80k Germans living in now Polish occupied territory which made Hitler respond. Everyone else declared war on Hitler after that. The corpses were found, the judgement is in. You are a kike.

https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/wrsynopsis.html

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm

Like the revolutions in Russia in 1917, and in Germany in 1918, it was the Communist (((faction))) in Poland that killed Germans en masse to incite war. Hitler warned on many occasions in his speeches that the international jew would try to incite war on a global scale.

>>134066025
Danzig was mostly German before WWII.
Fuck off, I'm not idolizing Germany, I'm just sympathizing with them. The Entente fucked them up pretty badly, just like they did with us. I know how it feels when you look at the current maps and you only see a mutilated version of your country

>>134066605

>>Poland didn't occupy huge swathes of Germany after ww1

look at the map where polak borders were for the last 1,000 years and then tell me who grabbed whos land, faggot.

>You are a kike.

aaaaaaand to the trash your posts goes, nice.

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Fuck krauts

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>M-MUH GERMANS BEING SHOWN AS THE ANTAGONISTS AGAIN! I-ITS NOT FAIR!
Wehraboo salt is always delicious

>>134066677
Most of Eastern Germany was Slavic before they colonized it and displaced or assimilated Slavs. Tough luck. Weak perish, strong thrive. Germans were clearly not strong. Neither were you. There's no justice, only realpolitik (German word, kek).

>>134066492
>Hey I know, I'll have the moral high ground if I call him a "shitler shill"
>But at the same time, I'll bring to attention his use of shill!
>Boy am I smart!

My earlier point was to highlight your massive trust of historians; people, human beings, who have a bias in everything they write/wrote. I made my point clear when I told you that the person responsible for the first report of Polish on German violence was a medical historian. You consider that propaganda, though what you think is
>If it comes from a historian, it must be true
>I'm going to trust historians 100% because there's no reason for them to lie, is there?

So since that report came from a historian, shouldn't you believe him? After all, what would he gain from lying? He's just a completely "unbiased" historian, much like the ones you regurgitate "facts" from, is he not?

>>134066677

does anyone here have the picture that showed to who danzig belonged in the last 1,000 years, in a neat looking table?

surprise surprise--- it belonged to polaks for 90% of the time, shitler fag.

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>>134066750
>>134066781
This was a pretty good thread with pretty good points on both sides, but you burgers just had to fuck this one up too, right?

>>134062320
Poland started mobilising the army by March 1939 and poising it against East Prussia. Thereby effectively invoking the state of war between both nations. A last diplomatic proposal by Germany was rejected by Beck on August 31st.

>>134062320
Not quite..

>>134066539
What you're really asking is who fired the first shot, in which the answer is Germany. You can take pot shots at my interests if you like but I'll do the honourable thing instead and declare war first before retaliating.

>>134066605
>embrace ideology that focuses on racial Darwinism
>denounce tens of millions of people as inferior and put them on extermination list
>commit unspeakable atrocities
>lose in a war of annihilation
>get spared because your enemy embraces more noble and humane ideals
>cry about it like a bitch 70 years later
eyyyyy

>>134066336

Soviets won the war, everyone else lost. Soviets were Rothschild puppets.

>>134066959

are you seriously so retarded your little brain thinks germany started a global war because a few krauts got into fistfights, even though there is zero evidence for it?

im looking for the kindiest words to say "fuck off", but nothing comes to mind.

there is nothing worse than larping for shitler or nasssisss, its the ultimate form of cuckoldry.

>>134058436

Yeah...its like people don't trust peace treatiest with you when you've rearmed and annexed several countries. So rude of them.

>>134067010
Germany started mobilizing in 1935 you dingus.
German diplomatic proposals are nothing. Germans have demonstrated time and time again in diplomatic arena that their word means nothing.
Hitler only took that trend to an extreme, he lied in succession for several years, breaking every promise he made.
Why the fuck would Poles or anyone believe anything? It was logical to assume any German proposition had ulterior motives.
Same Nazis literally got into bed with Stalin and Bolsheviks and invaded Poland. So much for any ideological purity or higher ideals. In foreign politics Hitler was a pragmatist, unlike his idiotic fans today.

>>134066990

you cant prove the picture wrong, though.

anytime in history something good starts happening in europe, germans chimp out and fuck it up.

>>134066781
you dont need a hard on for the nazis to get tired of the good guy america bs we get fed daily by american filmmakers, predictably

>>134067093
And so were the english, RedShield puppets of central banks.

>>134067217
Thing is I very rarely saw the ''Nazis eating babies'' bullshit in war movies. I saw many movies that portray at least some Germans as decent humans, which was reality.
That bullshit only exists in your paranoid mind and nowhere else.
You desperately seek and imagine things that aren't there.

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>>134066990
don't they always? North American Holocaust when?

>>134066748

The area was what? Polish some 400 years ago? At the time of the massacre of the German population there, pretty much only Germans lived there for centuries on end.

>you said a no-no word
>that means I can discard what you say

And this is why this time we'll leave no survivors of your kind. You had 6000 years to adapts and integrate, that's enough time.

>>134067028

That is your beloved Communist Utopia under Stalin, yes.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

>>134065744
I'm not a Hitler shill I frankly don't like the guy or his political stance. However I give credit where credit is due, it's speculated that Hitler was trying to end the war early with the Dunkirk retreat a shattered British force who just lost mainland France will not keep fighting the war. However if you ride in and kill them you create bad blood so what Hitler did with the advice of Rudolf Hess was let them leave to give yourself the better diplomatic advantage. Thankfully British propaganda was so strong it could bid time for the States to join the war and with the combined forces kick Germany's ass. I am by no means a Shitler shill but guy you can't just say "Hitler couldn't move his forces 10 miles up to destroy the entire Dunkirk force." Makes no fucking sense, as much as i hate the guy he was the person who saved thousands of lives that day by not ordering an assault on a shattered and depleted force. Also half these fuckers only know history from whats on their "The Jooooo's are EVAL" thread.

>>134058436
The guy invaded Poland, France and Czechoslovakia what is wrong with you? Are you 100% retarded? Do you understand history at all? Are you a retarded holocaust denier? Yes to all, goodbye you fetal alcohol syndrome having inbred retard.

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>>134066969
I ask you again: Do you honestly think completely separating a huge part of a country with a corridor is normal?
Hypothetically speaking, if the Germans did something like pic related to you, would you be okay with that?

>>134067392
Exhibit A: Nazishitter mental wreck schizophrenic imagines I defend Soviets because I shit on Nazis and proceeds to evade all other arguments made because he got totally wrecked by logic and facts.

>>134065432
>Similarly, if my Auntie Joyce had a cock and balls she'd be my uncle.

I mean, did you look? You might be surprised anon.

>>134067338
If you don't think hollywood portrays nazis as Satan, you haven't been watching anything made in the last 30+ years.

>>134067509

What are you talking about? You spouted some lines without context that didn't apply to Nazi Germany but perfectly aligned with the USSR.

You should really either make arguments or back up your claims with evidence.

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>>134066074

>muh US death camps
this claim is UTTER bullshit. Theres only ONE (1) book written by a psychologist James Bacque, whos never written a history book, which was called out
>Mr. Bacque is wrong on every major charge and nearly all his minor ones. Eisenhower was not a Hitler, he did not run death camps, German prisoners did not die by the hundreds of thousands, there was a severe food shortage in 1945, there was nothing sinister or secret about the "disarmed enemy forces" designation or about the column "other losses." Mr. Bacque's "missing million" were old men and young boys in the Volkssturm (People's Militia) released without formal discharge and transfers of POWs to other allies control areas. Maj. Ruediger Overmans of the German Office of Military History in Freiburg who wrote the final volume of the official German history of the war estimated that the total death by all cause of German prisoners in American hands could not have been greater than 56,000 approximately 1% of the over 5,000,000 German POWs in Allied hands exclusive of the Soviets.
http://www.nytimes.com/books/98/11/22/specials/ambrose-atrocities.html
There was a panel of 8 historians as well that all called the book out for its shitty made up history as well found the book to be bullshit
>Historians Gunter Bischof and Brian Loring Villa stated that a research report from the panel "soundly refuted the charges of Other Losses, especially Bacque's fanciful handling of statistics."
http://historynewsnetwork.org/article/1266
>"Bacque misread, misinterpreted, or ignored the relevant documents and that his mortality statistics are simply impossible." -R.J. Rummell
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP13.HTM
>"That German prisoners were treated very badly in the months immediately after the war […] is beyond dispute. All in all, however, Bacque's thesis and mortality figures cannot be taken as accurate" -S.P.MacKenzie The Encyclopedia of Internment and Prisoners of War pg. 294

>>134067479
What's ''normal''?
Furthermore, Germans got transit rights and Danzig despite being Polish for centuries was actually made a city-state under international supervision.
Territory given to Poland had Polish majority.
Learn some basic history you dipshit.

>>134067605


>http://nytimes com/books/98/11/22/specials/ambrose-atrocities.html
https://archive.is/kdbW

>>134067435
Hitler was the tip of the spear of Stalin/Lenin, Lenin had already planned the actions for WWII and knew it was inevitable since the first.
The only reason why the soviets didn`t kept going was the Americans.
Instead of sending the Russians that were fighting against the soviets back to Russia to die they should`ve gathered all people and invaded the USSR to free everyone from the Gulags and kill every single communist that ever drew breath in this world.
That would have stopped the cancer that spread around the world.

>>134064354
I rewatch band of brothers and the pacific like every 6 months though

>>134067105
>Poland, England, France, Russia, controlled by Jews
>inb4 "hurr durr muh ebil joos"
>A Rothschild literally signed a pact with an Englishman to set up a country for Jews
>See: Zionism
>Hitler refused global banking
>Jews behind the central banks pushed for Poland to provoke Germany, knowing full well that England and France had guaranteed its sovereignty
>Whilst it is well known that Hitler wanted to reclaim the land that was ceded to surrounding countries, he also caught wind of shit happening in Poland
>Used a show of force in Poland
>Hey that's an act of aggression, we're going to war
>Oh fugg

>Also, implying Germany at the time knew they'd start a world war

You didn't address your love for historians, as well. Even though they can easily succumb to bias.

>there is nothing worse than larping for shitler or nasssisss, its the ultimate form of cuckoldry
>Literally larping as a white supremacist

You are honestly a fucking moron. This is coming from the bottom of my heart, and I am 100% genuine when I say this; kill yourself.

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>>134058323
Go back to plebbit you fucking faggot.

>>134067392

>pretty much only Germans lived there for centuries on end.

come on man, holy shit, this is just powerfully not true.

>>134067583
No shit, they love communists, what`s new?
That doesn`t make a difference when Hitler send troops to be trained in the USSR soil and also received weapons from Stalin and supplies.
Without the Soviets, germans wouldn`t do shit.
And Hitler was a schoolboy compared to Stalin in regards to cruelty.

No winner on either side of the war faggots, millions upon millions of White population slaughtered. While the banksters laughed on the sidelines saying good goyim (^:

>>134058028

It's Nolan, so I doubt it will be like this.
It will be a huge propaganda piece for sure, but smarter.

If anything, I expect the nazi to be an unseen enemy. A terrifying bogeyman that never appears in flesh and blood and such is even more dehumanized, except maybe to show them vulnerable (a downed pilot, maybe) a la 'they can bleed and die'.
French forces will be mostly ignored. The movie will just be a wankfest over the 'spirit of sacrifice and steadfast determination' of the brits.

Still, even if it will be a propaganda piece, it can also be a good movie, especially if it focuses on the human side of it, the stress and the trials.

>>134066847
Talk about double standards
>If Germans remove Slavs then that's genocide
>If Slavs do the same, then that's realpolitik
Make up your mind.

>>134067583
No, I just don't actively imagine shit like you do. And who the fuck cares what Hollywood does? It's entertainment industry. They rely on selling product to dumb masses, and those dumb masses usually want clear-cut narrative with good and bad guys. Yet I didn't spot much demonization. If anything they went out of their way in some movies to show not every German soldier was same.
You see it in any film, not just films about WW2.
What can I say, watch better movies. German Stalingrad is nice.
>>134067599
Funny how Nazis and Soviets were allies for a short time, and even cooperated before that.

>>134067729

>"hurr durr muh ebil joos"

yeah, seriously, get a grip.

>Literally larping as a white supremacist

white supremacist, good.
shitler larping, bad.

Easy enough to comprehend?

>>134067729

Wal-Mart has more money now than the Rothschilds have ever had and their "pact with an englishman" was a failed meme.

Im so tired of people thinking Rothchilds are the final boss

>>134067857
You're putting words in my mouth. I never said that.

>>134058843
Literally nothing wrong with that.

>>134067952
Not to mention Rothschilds are a HUGE family. And while Jews are good about keeping it in family, they are not a hive-mind.

>>134067605

Eisenhower had Patton murdered, read Patton's diaries.

Read your own post
>attempts at ridicule
>appeals to authority
>quoting literal jews

Do you honestly believe these numbers yourself? Do you also believe only 30000 people were burned to death in Dresden? Thousands of POWs talking about it on camera, on record in great detail and the BEST you can do is "well these (((historians))) said it wasn't true". Meanwhile "holocaust survivors" tell stories that are verifiably false but that's taken as gospel.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3869117/General-George-S.-Patton-was-assassinated-to-silence-his-criticism-of-allied-war-leaders-claims-new-book.html

>>134058028

>WW2
>Most violent conflict in human history
>Saturation bombing of cities on all sides
>Death camps for PoW's
>Entire cities torched with incendiary bombs
>Until we learned how to vaporize them with nukes

>PG-13


It's shit anon.

>>134068084
>muh Dresdencaust
where are the bodies?????

>>134067952
>Wal-Mart has more money now than the Rothschilds have ever had
1. Bullshit
2. Those who control the money supply don't need to have billions of dollars on paper. They still control it and are as rich as they want to be.

>>134067920
Hey, good job responding to my points
>I'll make him refute my argument while completely ignoring and dodging his, while also throwing in ad hominems!
Holy fuck you're retarded. Please hang yourself.

>>134067952
>What is the Balfour Declaration

>>134068084

>gets retarded internet conspiracy theory BTFO
>reacts with just claiming another one.

wow, really made me think.

>>134059045
> he didnt want a war with the brittish

Then maybe don't attack their allies? This is like attacking a NATO country and complaining that you didn't want to start a war with NATO

It's a retarded excuse, he knew what would happen

>>134068174
>>What is the Balfour Declaration

a failed meme that did literally nothing. Seriously, why do you faggots continue to bring this up as an example of how powerful the rothchilds are when all that happened was the British reading it just to be polite before throwing it in the trash?

>>134068174

nothing you posted was an argument.
nothing.

jj j j j jewjjwwjwjwj
kikikikkeessksks

you're stuttering the same words over and over.

>Holy fuck you're retarded. Please hang yourself.

please, do.

>>134068197
Why wouldn't they kill the famous general who hated Jews and openly told the world they defeated the wrong enemy?

>>134067868

Hitler didn't want war, big surprise. He's been saying that for a long time since he was a soldier in WW1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_BhfBFqBXo

>>134058843
So? Is that a bad reason?
Meanwhile the Brits apparently wanted to kill their own kind ... really activates my almonds.

So accurate? Yeah probably.

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>Germany and Russia team and invade/divide Poland between them
>Western allies declare war on Germany for invading Poland
>Western allies do not declare war on Russia even though they ALSO invaded Germany, and even decide to team up with the Russians as their ally.
>after the war, allow Poland (and the rest of eastern europe) to be completely controlled by the Russian invaders anyway

Someone explain this shit to me. You don't even have to be a Nazi sympathizer to see that this is fucking bullshit.

>>134067920

>hurr durr ridicule

Not an argument, kike. You can hide your flag but you rats smell like the filth you choose to associate yourself with.

Soon.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb7Wnm0VMRs

>>134068305
>didn't want war
>started a war
my brain went boom

>>134068302

why would you continue to just force another conspiracy theory after the first one got utterly BTFO?

>>134068391

stop crying.

>>134068391

lol I called you out on your bullshit lies and you have NOTHING to say. Its funny how you stormfags always bitch about jews despite you acting exactly like them

>>134058436
it wasn't fucking Hitler. It was Rundstedt and he stopped the attack because he was afraid of his forces advancing too far too fast and possible allowing the allied armies a change to counter-attack

Why does everybody keep saying it was Hitler and why do stormfags persist that he stopped the attack because he was a good boy who dindu nuffin and wanted peace despite arming his nation for the past 6 years before the war

>>134068277
Poland and England weren't "allies", England chose to guarantee Poland against a German attack (they didn't guarantee Poland in itself, Poland were attacked by Soviet 2 weeks after Germany and the allies didn't give a shit). The reason England did so was to make their declaration of war seem justified, which it kinda was. Hitler probably shouldn't have attacked Poland, but I think at that point he knew war was coming regardless.

>>134058699
Nolan is a terrible everything though.
His reputation is just one of those things I will never quite understand.

>>134068197
>>134068472

>the allies & soviets always tell the truth! That's why they worked together!

You are the conspiracy theorist, just because it's a popular one doesn't change its nature.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae_WSV4n-u8

The Jew only has ridicule, as it is impossible to refute as nothing is said in the first place.

>>134068480
>>134068525

You just don't like Nazis because both your brains and penises are small. There, I've argued on a level you can comprehend.

>>134067852
>especially if it focuses on the human side of it, the stress and the trials

From the trailers that looks to be exactly what the whole film is about.

>>134058028

My only problem is that it's just another western front movie. Western front was a meme compared to the eastern one. It's such a shame that Russians can't make movies for shit.

>>134068283
>A failed meme that was worked into the Mandate for Palestine, which was the catalyst for the creation of the state of Israel.

>>134068297
>you're stuttering the same words over and over
>coming from a person who's said nothing but "shill shill shill shill kike kike kike, hurr durr dats all u say shitler shill shitler shill huehue"

Mate, this is honestly wearing thin. You have absolutely nothing to refute with, so you're just responding with nothing but petty drivel to make yourself feel better. You're fucking worthless.

>Huehuehue I'll be really cool and try to twist him telling me to kill myself back on him.

Go back to /his/, you're fooling no one.

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>>134068757

>>134068778

ok! now fuck off.

>>134068757

oh look, youre continuing to ignore the fact that I called you out on your horseshit and have no argument.

>There, I've argued on a level you can comprehend.

you cant have this arrogant tone when you lost the argument so brutally.

>>134064135
Except no, the BF 109s are being replaced by some cheap copies

>>134068344
Just fascists and Marxists, sometimes they're white.

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>>134068678
>despite arming his nation for the past 6 years before the war
maybe it had something to do with your neighbor?
>In 1918 the new government formed the Red Army, which then defeated its various internal enemies in the Russian Civil War of 1917–22. The years 1918–21 saw defeats for the Red Army in the Polish–Soviet War (1919–21) and in independence wars for Estonia (1918–20), Latvia (1918–20) and Lithuania (1918–19)

Whatever the reason Hitler stopped the advance on Dunkirk, I think we can all agree this movie will probably be dominated by some soppy bullshit love story

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>>134058028
Im gonna see it because the guy who made it also created our lord and savior.

>>134065315

America will always be the worst in history

Dropped nukes on civilians (only country thats ever used nukes)
>Destoying middle east
>Destoying europe by forcing middle east people to flee

>>134061536
The Nazi party was an esoteric secret society and their economy went to shit after a couple years because socialism is shit no matter who tries it.

>>134058028
All hail our brexit movie.

>>134067978
If -in your opinion- the corridor and the removal of Germans were realpolitik, then why does the invasion of Poland bother you so much?
From a German pragmatic point of view, destroying Poland in 1939 was the logical decision, since it prevented the country from being surrounded by hostile nations from the East and the West.
By that logic, Poland also "deserved" everything it got between 1939-1945, since the country wasn't strong enough to defend itself (in a 2v1 battle).
Poles didn't deserve the hostility and suffering they got, but nor did Germans...

>>134068778

>His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

thats it. Thats the ENTIRE Balfour decleration. All it said was it was ok for a bunch of jews in Britain to move to Palestine, but shot down any attempt by the zionist to control it through a zionist government. They were still British subjects

>>134068919
>>134068678
and the fact that (((Trotsky))) openly said Bolshevism and communism was an international revolution? and that Bavaria was taken over by commies in 1918 declaring it a Soviet state?

>>134058436
hitler literally wuz a gud boi

>>134063938
>implying Hacksaw Ridge wasn't flagrantly unrealistic trash

>>134068904

The jew cries out as he strikes you, and as he loses his arguments he will claim victory regardless.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb7Wnm0VMRs

Fuck off dicklet, why don't you let Jamal rail your mom one more tail for good measure. I'm sure the (((historians))) will remember her reparations.

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>>134068389
>>134068389
>>134068389
>>134068389
>>134068389
>>134068389
>>134068389

SOMEONE FUCKING EXPLAIN THIS SHIT

>>134069148

holy shit Nolan BTFO!

>>134059787
Dunkirk is a quite major part of early ww2

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>>134069148

>>134069134

oh look, still zero arguments!!!

>The jew cries out as he strikes you

whoa!!
unexpected!!!

>>134069221

the way i see it, UK and France didnt want to declare war at the same time on the two most powerful countries in existence.

it fucked the polaks completely, and half of europe for the next 80 years, if you come to think of that.

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>>134069286
She's a lawyer, librarian, and a scholar. Show some respect.

>>134058028
Nolan is a boring hack with zero writting skills.

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>deffending krauts

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>>134069148
Retarded Americans and their retarded niggers...

>>134069301

So the holocaust is a lie but the rest of WW2 history is 100% accurate? Lay off the meth, jew. Keep posting all your jews all you like, I'm not going to listen to Israelis telling me about European History.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae_WSV4n-u8
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ByFfzMORXSM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EHFfOOF-6Fs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WAoNhacojmM

>>134059598
Hess and Mein Fuhrer wanted peace. Hess was negotiating with the UK (UK playing for time?). Main reason the english killed Hess at Spandau. The one time the USSR voted to let him out of prison, UK voted no. Coverup.

>>134068995
Reddit faggot.
British middle east and post WW1 policy is literally everything you're kvetching about.
Lawrence of Arabia: Britbong: The Film
>muh nukes
Firebombing was worse you media gullible chimp. Get sterilized.

>>134069464

drugs are bad, mmmkay.

>>134069398
But why declare war at all? Obviously it wasn't really about liberating Poland if you're going to team up with the other guys who invaded Poland.

>>134068766

It might be a good movie then. Human bravery and the challenge in front of hardships makes a story worth telling.

>>134069085
tl;dr:
>Balfour Declaration set the idea of a Jewish state
>Worked into Mandate for Palestine
>State of Israel established on the last day of the mandate
>With that, an establishment of the "Jewish Agency".
Absolutely not British subjects

Long version:
>The preamble of the mandate document declared:

>Whereas the Principal Allied Powers have also agreed that the Mandatory should be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 2nd, 1917 (see: Balfour Declaration), by the Government of His Britannic Majesty, and adopted by the said Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing should be done which might prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

>The Palestine Committee set up by the Foreign Office recommended that the reference to 'the claim' be omitted. The Allies had already noted the historical connection in the Treaty of Sèvres, but they had not acknowledged a legal claim. Lord Balfour suggested an alternative which was accepted:

>>Whereas recognition has thereby [i.e. by the Treaty of Sèvres] been given to the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine, and to the grounds for reconstituting their National Home in that country ...[39]

>Article 4 of the Mandate provided for "the recognition of an appropriate Jewish agency as a public body for the purpose of advising and co-operating with the Administration of Palestine in such economic, social and other matters as may affect the establishment of the Jewish National Home and the interests of the Jewish population of Palestine," effectively establishing the Jewish Agency.

>>134064296
Pollacks joined in the Gangbang of the Czechs.
Polllack started WWII

>>134069221

Germany was the leader of the Axis, so Britain only delcared war on them, they did attempt to counter act soviets by shipping in arms and supplies to Finland, but Sweden and Norway being neutral cocked blocked them because they were scared Hitler would see it as hostile against him and invade them. Also, everyone sort of knew the soviet-nazi alliance wouldnt last long, and eventually Hitler invaded the USSR, and then USSR and UK both sort of fell ass backwards into an alliance because of this.

>>134064257
Man, that webm is great. Maimed guy climbs up ledge faster than the girl in the background who needs help. And the girl in the foreground's reaction is great too.

>>134058028

imo it wont go into the moral specifics of ww2 at all.

>>134069621

i cannot explain it in any other way than being utterly scared of the german steamroll.

you either allied with the evil commies, or you died under german treads.

the 23 million russians that died in the war helped a lot, i guess.

Prepare for:
JU-88 bombs doing nothing except destroying sandcastles
Stuka strafing runs making scary noises and pew pews that are guaranteed to miss the main character

>>134069398
Why did they let Soviet take all those baltic, balkan and eastern countries after the war, but when Nazi Germany took back land populated by Germans, they immediately prepared to strike them down?

After the war, Soviet was exhausted and the Allies would've won against them EASILY. The Allies clearly didn't care about the freedom and the sovereignty of other nations. Only when that was threatened by Germany.

>>134067690
This right here senpai

While on the subject of WW2 films, let's talk about Saving Private Ryan. Seems innocent at first, but if you really think about it, the entire movie was designed to dehumanize the germans and turn them into saturday morning cartoon villains that aren't deserving of even basic human dignity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4FeyONCtfc
Rob Ager does a good analysis of what I'm talking about here. He's certainly no nazi sympathizer, and even he is able to see this and does a good job pointing it out. Hell, the original drafts of SPR even had more humanization of the enemy germans, and those parts were specifically taken out in rewrites.

>directed by Spielberg
of course

>>134059787
Going by the numbers Dunkirk looks relatively minor compared to the stuff that went down later, but it was also the only moment of WWII where Britain faced the very real prospect of imminent defeat. If it failed then Britain would have surrendered, which completely changes everything that comes afterwards. Most significantly of all the USA would likely remain completely uninvolved with the war, which means no lend-lease for the Soviets, which means a significant chunk of their 'behind the scenes' resources (fuel, food, logistics vehicles, etc) suddenly disappears from the Red Army.

>>134059787
Because that would force (((hollywood))) to show the USSR as an enemy and Finland, which was allied with "muh ebil nazis" as the hero.

>>134069621
>But why declare war at all?

to end German aggression. they had mad numerous concessions to Hitler before this, all in the hopes of preserving peace and preventing another european war, and they werent just going to sit around while Hitler continues to take and bully everyone.

>>134058436
yeh, the guys killing everyone and invading other sovereign states were the bad guys. funny that

>>134070160
But Russia was doing the exact same thing. Yet we allied with Russia and "good old Uncle Joe".

That "fighting the just war" shit is clearly bullshit.

>>134069221
It's retarded to declare war on both Germany and the USSR at the same time.
Churchil wanted a war with the Soviet Union afterwards but most people realised that it's a retarded Idea to start a war which would kill millions when you just finished a war which killed millions.

>>134058843

>He had purely racial reasons

Oh, it's another "I have no clue yet I want to shit out my knowledge" episode. Hitler saw it as important that European hegemony over the planet stayed the way it was. His fear for a distant future was that non-European forces to become rivals challenging Europe. With that he meant the USA and USSR of course, and further down the road, China. Yes, even China was explicitly mentioned by him. Thus it was imperative for Europe that the British Empire stays intact.

There was racial policy involved of course, simply because it was Hitler and simply because everyone was aware of racial policy, literally everyone saw niggers and chinks as backwards subhumans. Thinking it was all about race just shows how ignorant the people still are. But I understand, this place gets flooded with newfags constantly and the more experienced fuck off because they feel the place has become cancer.

>>134070160
What about Soviet aggression? They stole more land than Hitler ever did.

>>134058028
The nazis were the bad guys they invaded poland they started the war they killed far more civillians systematically than the allies during the war they imposed their fucked up hateful angry ideology on the people of europe and im sick to death of you fucking autists trying to revive nationalism IT CAUSES NOTHING BUT WAR AND SUFFERING.

Hitler had good domestic amd economic policies and we should learn from that. Beurocratic, regulated and democratic socialism with maximum freedom of speech like we've had in europe should be the future. We just need to have a cap on maximum migrants so we dont get swamped.

>Nolan's masterpiece this and that
He's getting sucked off only because it's a jerk off session against National-Socialism because it's gaining popularity against the youth and others who have become disillusioned and sought out the Truth.

>>134058028
No it will be another film telling us how awful war is and that there's no virtue to be found in it.

>>134059787
Because everyone knows that any battle won by the good guys at any point during the 20th and 21st century were aided by the Americans

>>134070366
>But Russia was doing the exact same thing

Chamberlain makes it very clear that Britain is aligned with Poland

Germany invaded Poland on September 1st 1939(Hitler had a non aggression pact with Poland that he violated btw)

Chamberlain, who had made previous concessions to Germany in the past on the basis that he NOT invade anyone, made a statement that Germany needs to retreat all their forces from their ally Poland in three days or Britain will have to intervene

September 3, 1939, Britain and France declare war on Germany for their failure to leave Poland

September 17, 1939-USSR invades eastern Poland

After that Britain says "oh shit" and makes plans to deal with them by shipping in supplies and arms to Finland, but Norway and Sweden deny them this, so Finland is basically on her own.

Again, Germany was the ring leader of the axis powers and Russia was just seen as one of their little menions. Slovakia also invaded Poland, yet Britain didnt declare war on them. Also, everyone knew the allaince between hitler and stalin wouldnt last.

>>134066318
War was Probably inevitable and we're planning long term for a conflict but it's dumb to suggest In the 1940s while Germany was at their height and the soviet army was crippled from the purges

Also
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Khalkhin_Gol
The soviets could be clever when they wanted to

>>134058028
You faggot will not fucking ruin a Nolan movie for me.
He is a fucking god movie maker and he does not blackwash his movies.
Just watch the Dark Knight series or Interstellar, his newer movie and you will see a handful of nigs at best, usually criminals or 1 pussy scientist afraid of space.

>>134070889
>Also, everyone knew the allaince between hitler and stalin wouldnt last.
Mainly because there wasn't one, idiot.

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>>134067623
>What's ''normal''?
Nice relativism you got there buddy

>>134065260

t. brazilian intellectual

>>134070974
They were*

>>134066318
>The Red Army operated with masses of soldier, not with logic and tactics.
This is were you are wrong

The soviets were more advance than the germans in combined arms warfare until the purges

And the ebin soviet zerg rush was part of the strategic views of the soviet union, for example they knew that the one who outproduce the other eventually wins

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>>134068708
>Nolan is a terrible everything though
>His reputation is just one of those things I will never quite understand
Sir, you just had an opinion, what can you tell us about yourself? How did you do it?
"hands over a microphone"

>>134071313
He's right though. Nolan isn't even competent at the basics of filmmaking and yet he's presented as some deep auteur.

>>134071408
What are your favorite films?

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I saw them filming the air scenes near here.

They used 3 spits and a shitty knockoff spainish bf109. The He111 was a big massive model.

They also had Tom Hardy out at the coastline sitting in a full scale mockup spitfire to film all his cockpit scenes.

>>134066539

Most people don't know about the Saar Offensive. They obviously dont teach it in school narratives. French armies invaded Germany in Septembter 1939. Hitler was attacked by France, not Hitler attacked France

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saar_Offensive

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Nolan is a 4D chess master of a director. After all, it was his movie TDKR that gave us this classic scene. He even admitted this scene was his favorite from the movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRCM0jWEQjQ

>>134071408
Nolan has actually had some solid pieces, Dunkirk isn't one of them and I'm not going to waste my time condoning obvious Nazi bashing for what it is. He's only being blown up now after Inception because we're in a climate when any sort of bashing against NS is given a green-light because Trump is literally Hitler supposedly. As pathetic as it is, it's more terrifying to realize I went to school with the same people who eat this up and regurgitate it.

>>134071408
Im not telling you idiots to instantly like his work, but this is not an argument.
I want to hear your opinion on why dont you like him and his work.
Thats how it works, Achmed.

>>134071652
I'm not here to do anything more than give you my opinion. I don't care if you want to continue believing you're watching quality cinema.

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>>134063938
>rated M
It's a movie

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>>134058323
You should be gassed like the fictional event that happened in Auschwitz. For all of you know think the nazis really were the bad guys. You really need to take the time to watch the greatest story never told. How can you honestly say you can make a informed decision about ww2 when you dont know both sides of the story? I was never a pro nazi sympathizer but just look at the MSM of current day. Pearl harbor might have been a false flag.
PS: The british are the true evilest mother fuckers. Sent people to death on trains to Russia. Nobody talks about that shit.

>>134071529
>Saar offensive
>offensive
Lol

>>134071648
I havent seen Dunkirk yet but from what ive read, its not about politics, at least not in a way you think it is.

>>134070506
We developed the bomb. All we needed to do is stall an offensive against the Soviets until the bombs were operational. Then nuke the shit outa them. Hindsight being 2020.. The Nazis and Commies should have been annihilated. Both are cancers. And yes Hitler was the lesser of the two evils.

>>134071926
>It's not about politics
How could it not be? Are they going to show Hitler's obvious mercy for not to want kill British servicemen on the beaches and yet allow them to retreat in the face of being able to drive them into the sea? No, of course not. It's about as hollywood as you could imagine.

>>134070595
>The nazis were the bad guys they invaded poland they started the war they killed far more civillians systematically than the allies during the war they imposed their fucked up hateful angry ideology on the people of europe and im sick to death of you fucking autists trying to revive nationalism IT CAUSES NOTHING BUT WAR AND SUFFERING.
Hitler was a dumbass but way smarter than you. Fuck off fag.

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>>134071796
Shows how shallow you are, you think youre the smart one, but just look at yourself...
You didnt lurk enough and got brainwashed to have what is a mainstream opinion around here.
Cant even explain it, but im the retard being shovel-fed shit.

>>134058436
People actually believe this HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>134070704
>He's getting sucked off only because it's a jerk off session against National-Socialism
Take your natsoc shit and shove it up your ass.

98% Britain Wins Agin

Flawless Victory

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>>134072155
You didnt see the movie, you werent at the beach when the real event happened...
And youre trying to explain it to me...

>>134072271
Sure thing, bud. Enjoy your Batman memes.

>>134068708
B8?

He's a bit overrated and only Dark Knight stood the test of time, but he's hardly crap

>>134072155
>Are they going to show Hitler's obvious mercy for not to want kill British servicemen on the beaches and yet allow them to retreat in the face of being able to drive them into the sea?

no because that didnt happen and youre retarded

>>134068108
>I'm so emotionally stunted that I need to see blood and guts to be able to feel anything.

Why are you Jews so keen to normalise hyper-sexuality and hyper-violence in films and videogames?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunkirk_(1958_film)

>>134072559
Operation Dynamo isn't very interesting. I don't know why it gets so much recognition. It's celebrating defeat.

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>>134072425
>Sure thing, bud. Enjoy your Batman memes.
>thinks he sees through jews and their plans
>jewed into a brainless retard
>mfw

>>134058436
If he wanted peace he should have captured the Brits and then sued for peace.
You don't let your enemy's army get away and then say, 'Hey guys let's be friends now ok?"

>>134072762
What the fuck are you even talking about at this point?

>>134071507
>shitty knockoff spainish bf109. The He111 was a big massive model.

Those Spanish variants are the only airworthy ones in the UK (there is a genuine E-3 but its first flight since crashing in 1942 was about a month ago, far too late for filming), and airworthy He-111s just don't exist.

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Is it that time again?

>>134072423
>You didn't see the movie, you weren't
Yes, I didn't. You didn't either, and your fabricated six gorillion. The icing on the cake? >>134071926 You were saying or you'll disappear because I caught you in as blatant as a lie as you could? Fuck off back into obscurity, nobody.

>>134072345
Same to you, care to bring an actual argument to table, little boy?

>>134072695
I think Nolan might be on to something here though with the whole use of Hans Zimmer's clock motif from Interstellar. Dunkirk was a moment in time that has had massive significance on the world we live in today. The key line that no-one seems to pick up on from the trailer is that "Survival is victory". I wonder what kind of message that gives?

>>134068277
The poles should have stopped exterminating ethnic germans.

>>134071507
Nice model.
Have you ever played the game IL-2 1946?
You can fly HE111s in it.

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>>134059473
>No one cares about nations rising

They do when it's a completely new and widely successful economic system that had zero reliance on (((them))) or their banks.

Nazi's didn't eat children. They enlisted the German ones, and killed the rest. I don't know of a better start to furthering genocide.

>>134058028
Whites killing Whites. Pretty much the history of the world. Sad.

>>134070506
I agree. Which goes back to my point about fighting a war with Germany ALSO being a terrible idea that did nothing but waste tons of lives with no benefit.

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>>134059473
>mistreated

>>134067852
Pretty much what I expected. But I assumed it to be the biggest disappointment since that one decent director in the last 15 years went full commi.

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>>134073191
I didnt see it but i obviously like Nolans work and im not a retard jewed into being a opinion regurgitating machine.
Sorry, no mental victory for you, ameritard.
>>134072931
>already lost the track of things
Wew Achmed

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>>134067952
>>134068036
>>134068141
Jude, Jude, feiges Schwein
Komm heraus und kämpf allein