Why did America lose?

a rabble of spoiled rich kids from suburbia used to driving pick ups and square dancing vs the hardened thugs raised on a high protein and rice diet, practically benching 135 from birth...

gee I wonder

>>134053904
Conscript army.

Hippies made them stop fighting, they would have beaten them it would just take a lot of time and casualties

>>134053904
Didn't have the guts (or support from the media) to go as far as necessary.
The gooks didn't break so they would have needed to wipe them out entirely.

>>134053904
Because the hippies weren't sent there to win, they were sent there to be punished and to make even the blue/red balance, as it was mostly blue during that revolution, of which made the traditional reds send them to their deaths.

They also wanted public support to hate the commies, so when everyone was like "they killed my son" that was good for their agenda as well, as the powers that be didn't want to lose their power due to anti-elitist lefts throwing them out of power.

killing 200k+ people and losing 70k is considered losing in murrilard white guilt liberal boiny sendurs safe places?

>>134053904
> There is no reason to have guns.
> You can't defeat the government, they have fighter jets and drones
> Keeps being defeated by uneducated tree niggers and sand niggers

>>134056730
Losing 70,000 men and achieving not a single one of your strategic or political objectives is considered losing pretty much everywhere.

Probably took Vietnam all of 18 months to squirt out another 200k Gook farmers identical to the ones they lost.

>>134056971
so you lost 70k niggers, what a waste really

They didn't really want to be liberated from communism.

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>>134054255
The Vietnamese had unhindered supply lines from the Communist powers, which once again America didn't want to confront directly.

Same reason for the "draw" in N. Korea, and the continued spectacle of 'lil Fatty over there wagging his micropenis at America, no one wants escalation with the Chinese or Russians.

>>134054255
You didn't go that far because the Soviet and Chinese would gangbang you and start world war 3

>>134057092
My Father was drafted into that war, and he's whiter than you are, you silly Wop.

>>134056730
>real life is csgo
Also the majority of forces were South Vietnamese.

It's because americans haven't fought an actual war since the civil one. Even in WWII, they didn't want in, then when they were dragged in it was never on their soil, and their citizenry got used to americans being in "wars" where 90% of the country goes about it's business.

I honestly think 90% of Americans fucking forgot they were in a goddamn war during Iraq. And while the US is powerful, even a Juggernaut is gonna get checked when they don't bother to pay attention to what is going on.

"Oh yeah, we're in some kind of war in the middle east, right? Where was that, Iran, Sudan?"

>>134057156
Of course they didn't. They are uneducated tree niggers. When people tell them they can get free money because of communism, they say, where can I signup. Never underestimate the power of stupidity.

>>134053904
It's as simple as Communism > Capitalism

A capitalist soldier is selfish, lazy, narcisstic and degenerate where a communist soldier is disciplined, hardened, collectivist, and willing to sacrifice himself for a higher cause.

>>134057317
They also didn't particularly appreciate the freedom bombs, and the US had to try multiple times to get a replacement leader that didn't just jump ship.

Sound familiar at all?

America actually won strategically.

The Viet Minh/Cong were annihilated by '70 and there was a Korea style peace agreed to.

The whole peasant farmers thing is a myth. The NVA was involved from the beginning and they were supplying training and heavy weapons to the guerrillas throughout the entire conflict.

The more you know.

They were stabbed in the back by faggots and kikes on the homefront

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>>134053904
Evil kikes were pulling all the strings in the U.S.

The Jew did win Vietnam, goyim.

>>134053904
Democrats cut off military support and funding that was promised after we beat back the commies. Commies then steam rolled village after village.

>>134057156
More like the South Vietnamese are primitive subhumans even by East Asian standards.
>Chinks with chink guns and "throw your life away for the cause" ideology on home turf.
vs
>Nigger tribes that wont even use the few guns that the Americans let them use while the USA troops fight in a low supply environment across the pacific.

South Korea was defensible because the natives were of the same genetic stock as their adversaries and the region was relatively well built up.
South Vietnam wasn't defensible because the natives were inferior and most of the infrastructure was in the north while the south was and remains a barren shithole.

Our hands were tied, we could've raped the fuck out of these gooks.

>>134053904

america didn't lose.

we just went there to fight. that's all. not stop the vc from being commies. not liberate north vietnam. not to secure territory. we just went there to kill commie gooks. that was the entire plan and purpose.

and in killing commie gooks, we did brilliantly. overwhelming success. our k/d ratio is off the fucking charts. 50,000 dead on our side, 1,100,000 dead on their side.

we did it just because communism had to be shown we were willing to fight, and vietnam was convenient.

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Because they gave up, and didn't do the things that would of been in their best interest militarily, see for example the Laos incursion which would of smashed the enemies capabilities in the south.

The media was responsible in a big way for the loss of moral and political will. Look up the Tet offensive, where a huge coordinated offensive against the US forces was successfully repelled making it a huge military win for the US. But the media portrayed it as a loss in a doomed war, sending back uncensored images of the suffering and horror of war, destroying moral and political will.

I'm not say it was right to get involved in Vietnam, but I am saying the US could of won the actual war before leaving.

>>134053904
The gooks didn't beat us, the hippies did.

>>134057711
>we just went there to kill commie gooks. that was the entire plan and purpose

This damage control. Pure cringe.

>our k/d ratio is off the fucking charts

Just as I thought, a COD kiddie

Vietnam war was never meant to be won. Either that or we must accept it was gross incompetence by leaders. Permission denied to attack key Vietnamese locations. It's like trying to win tic-tac-toe going 2nd.

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>>134057404
We installed the latest in a line of utterly corrupt, completely incompetent and nigh-powerless leaders in the South, bugged out, and let nature run it's inevitable course.

Basically the U.S. could claim "It wasn't overrun at the time we were (hurriedly) leaving!"
Pic related to US forces creating valuable reef structure for the Democratic peoples of Saigon.

>>134057577
Doesn't really matter. The dirt farmers weren't in to it and there were too many perfectly happy to be turncoats for the soviets for the operation to work. CIA fucked it up yet again based on failed ideology.

I don't know if you've been there, but the poor people don't give a shit if X or Y is running the country. They care about making a buck like almost anywhere else.
>oh you see that american?
>yes
>you see made in china labels?
>we make it in veitnam
>then they put made in china label on it
>american so stupid

>>134057199
That doest account for how they defeated the Chinese invasion in the early 70's.

>>134057869
>Expecting niggers to not go turncoat for gibs.
Really?

North Vietnamese are basically just Chinks that live across a border. Naturally they will align with the Chinks. The chinks could have thrown in a few million extra chink dirt farmer conscripts from China itself and nobody would notice the difference if they don't speak.

>>134058091
>Naturally they will align with the Chinks.
Kind of a lost opportunity. They culturally hate the chinks, like most everybody else in the region.

How do you think they all held on to a highly valuable coastline despite being right next to fuckin CHYNA?

>America had superior numbers
What

>>134057365
Yeah...tell that to the soviets who got assfucked by the Afghans

>>134058165
It's more like a "hands off" relationship. They don't want China interfering in their domestic policy but they are quite willing to follow along if it looks like a good idea.
North Vietnam was part of China for a millennium or so. After some utterly humiliating Chinese defeats they adopted a "Big bro-Lil bro" relationship to say that while they are smaller they are still an independent equal nation.

When it comes to regional hatred the Vietnam-China hatred pales in comparison to the Continental East Asian-Japanese hatred. It's kind of like how the Brits hate the French but compared to the Turks the French are actually alright.

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>>134058473
>Afghan fundamentalists
>Capitalists

>>134058473
>Afghans were capitalist

>>134058539
So the Communist soldiers lost to fucking cavemen? Yeah, based soviets

>>134057711
No? The government stated the purpose was to stop Vietnam from becoming communist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domino_theory

>>134053904
I like the Vietnamese.. we have shit loads of them here. They have John Wick focus... they work hard and they are not soft. We could learn a lot from them. Of course they are now like 3rd generation.. so they are turning into us slowly and becoming as deplorable as the rest of us.

>>134057238
My eyes are green, what about yours?

>>134058512
That's applicable from the typical modern geopstrategic point of view, and a viable way to set up something stable at the governmental level.

But when you're working with dirt farmers fucking your shit up, they're not really in to theory as much as being annoyed that you're making their lives miserable, and then opening themselves to being radicalized easily by an opposition supplier.

>>134053904
what? hurrrr we didn't lose reeeee huuurrrr usa number one huuurrrr

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>>134054169
>>134057523
>>134057774
And what would it have accomplished?
How many more American lives was it worth to stop Vietnam from becoming communist?

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>>134058588
They lost to zealot-survivalist fighting on their (horribly inhospitable) home ground, armed with advanced American weapons.

Also, as Reagan famously said they were "The moral equivalent of our Founding Fathers."

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>>134054174
I really, REALLY, like this picture

>>134058573
Soviets lost a war against farmers
Americans lost a war against farmers plus 300.000 chinese soldiers.
>commie troops are superior

>>134053904
niggers

>>134053904
if we lost then how come were still speaking english and not vietcongolese?

>>134057711
most of the fighting on our side was done by south vietnamese, which we got killed in droves

also, K:D ratios are not winning and are irrelevant in real life beyond the actual loss of manpower to other side

>>134057832
>It's like trying to win tic-tac-toe going 2nd.

it doesnt matter who goes first in tic-tac-toe, its a tie either way

>>134058861
Germans aren't speaking Russian, what's your point?

>>134058804
You just described Vietnam. But vietnam got fuckin jets and 300.000chinese soldiers from their allies and the Afghans got rocket launchers and guns...

>>134058706
It's the pro-Western sentiment which is seen as radicalization in these regions. Vietnam had just got rid of the French when these Americans and Soviets came in trying to take over. China invaded and took control as the chief commie supplier in the North causing them to have a relatively native influence rather than the utterly foreign Western ideals. Vietnam never had democracy so expecting it to work in the region with a 10pt lower average IQ was short-sighted.

>>134058939
America had complete air superiority in Vietnam, the Korean conflict was the last serious challenge to American air power.
The Soviet helicopters were being punished by Stinger missiles, at the time the most advanced man portable anti-air weapon on the planet.

>>134057458
>Vietnam pushes US out, which keeps US Jews out of Vietnam
>Vietnam tricks Soviet Jews into supporting them, which leads to them gaining free money/military equipment without giving anything in return
>Vietnam has a war with China (AKA Jews of Asia), and wins, expelling all Chinese influence from Vietnam
>After Soviets fall, Vietnam adopts Socialist policies, realizing that they can't just steal shit from the Soviet Jews anymore
>To rub salt on the wound, Vietnam gets the Goyim of Earth to realize that a heavily inferior guerilla force can fend off a totalitarian government, which pisses the Jews off to this day
The Commie-Jews and Capitalist Jews tried to infect Vietnam, and they failed miserably

>>134053904
It is one thing to fight a war against an army of another government. It is another to fight against the very population. That is why the west is stuck in the wars we are in today. No matter how many sand niggers we blow up, more show up and replace them. These wars are pointless.

>>134058836
>German flag
>Making jokes about communist soldiers

Every German born after 1945 is a soviet rapebaby.

>>134058994
And they were proud of it, by golly.

What really ruined the place was opening special trade status and cranking out Micky Ds everywhere and Jewniversities and everything else. They loves they monies like niggers. Dropping bombs was the wrong way to go, especially with a world economic power next door.

>>134057855
It isn't that simple.

It's the same shit with Iraq and Afghanistan now. The military will achieve their objectives and complete their mission but the US backed government will collapse in the inevitable power vacuum that occurs once the US leaves.

The corrupt, incompetent despot shit is just the way most countries outside of the civilised world are run. The US just seems to have a bad habit of picking the people who seem to be the weakest for the job to put their support behind.

>>134059064
>Vietnam has a war with China (AKA Jews of Asia), and wins, expelling all Chinese influence from Vietnam.
It was the opposite. The war lead to China replacing the Soviets as the main influence in Vietnam. Unlike the USA they actually achieved all their wargoals and reached a heavy handed diplomatic solution.

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>>134059237

>>134053904

Cause they didn't want to win.

>>134057294
this

Americans don't know the true hardship of total war

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>>134053904

Because they supported a mass murdering regime that very few civilians supported. Even we knew it was a lost cause.

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>>134054174
Fuck, I think I'm turning gay

>why?
democrats
democrats didn't bomb the north when they controlled the war. They bombed jungle instead (ho chi minh trail)
Republicans (nixon) did bomb North vietnam cities and infrastructure, and war ended immediately with peace treaty.
Then when NVA invaded 2 years later when nixon was in trouble, the democrats refused to fund any help for the SVA.

so democrats did it. democrats are vile creatures.

>>134059202

Yet the Soviets lost 26 million people to Germany's only 7.

Showing that the only way Communism can win is by drowning the enemy in the blood of your own troops.

>>134053904
WE WHERE THERE TO DEFEND THE SOUTH VEITNAM.
HIPPY FUCKS CRIED ABOUT OUR AMERICANS DYING.
WE PULLED OUT LIKE YOUR MOMS BULL.
NORTH NAM TOOK OUT SOUTH NAM AND THE SAME HIPPYS STARTED THROWING BOTTLES AT THE VETERANS.
>uncle was in nam.
WE WHERE WINNING AND WE SAVED VERY MANY SOUTH VEITNAMSE.
SO GET FUCK NIGGER

>>134059451
what gook cartoon is this?

>>134059451
Sauce?

>>134059704
It's a valid strategy.

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>>134059417
>leaf.
>knowing about war on their soil.
WELL KEEP UP THE RAPEFUEGEES AND YOU WILL SOON.
ALLAH ACK BAR.
Holy shit canada you are americas younger brother stop acting like we are all that different.
>american/Canadian

>>134059741
I found it. It's black lagoon

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>>134054174
shit man why do traps have to look so good
if it werent for the dick i would just dive straight in but that dick puts me on a whole other level of confusion

>>134059845
>implying I'm canadian

im a leaf remember we're all changs or ahmeds here

>>134059917

>shit man why do traps have to look so good

It's literally using the same camera and lighting tricks ugly chicks use to get attention on the internet.

If you got to see them in a well light environment with your own eyes you would be disgusted.

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>>134059451
I love this show so much.
I wanna drive a big ass cargo boat and shoot guns and RPGs.

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>>134059932
Wrong.
No, wrong.

>>134059917
>>134058806
>>134059467

F A G G O T S

Please go!

>>134054095
If that were true they wouldnt be so skinny

>>134060012
>>134060054
You can drop across the Northern Wall when the time comes. I have a spare room and extra guns.

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>>134059917
You're just brainwashed, coz your perception of beauty is fucked up. Also because you're so shy to talk to hot women you divert your interests to traps because somehow you think they're easier to woo than hot women

>>134053904
they were going to win until a bunch of hippies turned up and shut it down.

>>134057964
Because they still had the Russians backing them.

>>134060176
thats some next level projection you know

>>134060116
The gesture would be nice but this is my birth land.
I will not let ackmed take it.

>>134054095

>High protein
>Eating a handful of rice per day
>Literally all malnourished

why is /fit/ retarded

>>134059280
The US puts their support behind weak men because strong leaders would just behave like house niggers while receiving aind and later just tell the US to fuck off.

See Castro, Tito and Pinochet

>>134059917
>implying the dick doesent make it better

>At one point Ho reminded Mr. Ashmore and Mr. Baggs that he had once been in the United States. "I think I know the American people," Ho said, "and I don't understand how they can support their involvement in this war. Is the Statue of Liberty standing on her head?"

>This was a rhetorical question that Ho also posed to other Americans in an effort to point up what to his mind was an inconsistency: a colonial people who had gained independence in a revolution were fighting to suppress the independence of another colonial people.

>Ho's knowledge of American history was keen, and he put it to advantage in the summer of 1945 when he was writing the Declaration of Independence of the Democratic Republican of Vietnam. He remembered the contents of the American Declaration of Independence, but not its precise wording. From an American military mission then working with him he tried in vain to obtain a copy of the document, and when none could supply it Ho paraphrased it out of his recollections.

Thus his Declaration begins, "All men are created equal; they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable Rights; among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." After explaining that this meant that "all the peoples on the earth are equal from birth, all the peoples have a right to live, to be happy and free," Ho went on to enumerate, in the manner of the American Declaration, the grievances of his people and to proclaim their independence.

http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/bday/0519.html

>>134061525
Profit denial
https://archive.is/97lG

>>134061525
Ho Chi Minh and North Vietnam were more nationalistic than communistic.

>>134061551
hi nordbot

>>134061679
>tfw life is so empty everybody wants to (you) the nordbot to feel validated even though he almost never replies

>>134061767
nordbot may not reply but its good to remember its presence and appreciate it for the work it does

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>>134053904
Americans are weak, cowardly and lack stamina. They have successfully fought and won only two wars by themselves: one against Spain and one against Mexico.

Americans are incapable of anything that requires effort. In terms of warfare, this means that Americans can only win if (a) they score a blitzkrieg victory within a couple of weeks or (b) they have tougher allies to do the real fighting.

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>>134062041
Nordbot replied to me twice. My life has entered into a state of completion.

>>134053904
Heroin and slack

>>134062213
even if he never does reply, he likelu sees all of them, is happy to be appreciated and as such continues his work thanks to them replies

The viets were better at squatting

>>134062318
And letting criminals serve military time instead of prison time.

>>134062324
Have you been to his website? It's very Norwegian in its selflessness.

>>134062502
wait nordbot has a website?

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If Communism was such a big problem then why didn't America attack Soviet Russia during World War II?

>>134062749
Cloudflare hosted, even.

>>134062852
Because the jews wanted to keep the communist boogeyman alive to show the goyim that capitalist consumerism is the only way forward for humanity

>>134053904
We invaded their country which is a big no no.

>>134053904
>>134054095
>>134054152
>>134054169
No moral support for the war, and Close Air Combat was an afterthought. Every time we made advances, we intentionally withdrew to maintain the war. ROE all but prove it was a simulation to show just how ineffective a modern military could be against guerillas.

http://libertyunderfire.org/2010/08/fighting-with-one-hand-tied-behind-our-back-in-vietnam-and-afghanistan/

or archive link:
http://archive.is/hT0pk

>>134053904
Because we made it clear we weren't staying. If your some Dink farmer. and you have to choose between the technically sophisticated but half in half out guy or the fucker that will never ever stop fighting no matter what. Who are you going to pick? That and the leftist in they united states ensured we were going to lose.

>>134063257
nice source

liberty under fire is an apt decription for capitalist soldiers coming to vietnam and shooting at innocent farmers trying to live their lives

>>134060105
It's not gay if the penis is feminine tho

>>134057365
A capitalist soldier fight for his salary and eventualy nationalistic fairy tales bulshit, a communist fight for truth and justice around the world.

>>134053904
Because we didn't go there to win

>Ho was clearly admiring of the Americans in 1945, and he actively sought their help. As a sweetener, he had allowed some of the men under General Giap to rescue downed American pilots.

Major Thomas, then working for the Office of Strategic Services, the forerunner of the C.I.A., was the leader of a unit called the Deer Team, which helped General Giap to organize his “army” of 200 peasant recruits at their Tan Trao redoubt in northern Vietnam.

The major (who was later promoted to lieutenant colonel) got hung up in a banyan tree while parachuting into the camp, but he was quickly freed and greeted with a banner that said “Welcome to Our American Friends.” The date was July 16, 1945 — the same day that the United States tested the first atomic bomb, in New Mexico. World War II was nearly over.

>Major Thomas’s private journal says he arrived to find Ho very weak and suffering from chills and fever. (The major refers to him as “Mr. Hoo” in his earliest entries. So much for that bit of intel.) A medic with the American team treated Ho for dysentery and malaria, and he quickly improved.

>General Giap’s account was different. He said a local herbalist, an ethnic Tay man, had dug up a root in the forest, burned it and sprinkled the ashes into a bowl of rice soup. After Ho ate the soup, General Giap said, “the miracle occurred” and “the president emerged from his coma.”

>Major Thomas, who died in 2005 after a long career as an attorney in Lansing, Michigan, radioed his O.S.S. superiors based in Kunming, in southwestern China, that they needn’t worry about Ho’s political leanings.

“Forget the Communist Bogy,” he wrote. “Viet Minh League is not Communist. Stands for freedom and reforms from French harshness.”

https://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/08/28/did-the-u-s-lose-ho-chi-minh-to-communism/

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>>134054174
>this pic

Search and Destroy.

Same reason they've been stuck in Afghanistan for 15+ years.

>>134057199
>no one wants escalation with the Chinese or Russians.

Please. No one wants to deal with 25 million unwashed, starving peasants. Nor the herculean task of modernizing a state still operating on 1960s infrastructure.

>>134057365
You know they chained men into vehicles so they wouldn't flee, right? I know this is bait, but in case anybody is retarded enough to believe it.

>>134063760
>Same reason they've been stuck in Afghanistan for 15+ years.

See, at least when the communists went to vietnam we realized we wouldn't win and withdrew.

Dumb capitalists keep trying the same shit again and again for the past 15 years without realizing it doesn't work, the taliban still exists.

>>134056730
K/D-Rate means nothing in real life. This isn't COWWADUTY

>>134053904
Americans are cowards. They whine about PTSD because some peasant shot back at them when they left their airconditioned base and had to take a break from XBox playing.

>>134064154
You're thinking about Jews and how they see messed up soldiers as a shekel-making opportunity.

>>134054152
Why did we lose there then? We literally sent the best of our men, including a shit ton of former Wehrmacht/SS soldiers who joined the Foreign Legion right after WW2 ended?

>inb4 France winning a war lol xD

>>134053904
There were like 20x as many NVA/VC killed in action than U.S. soldiers. 58k vs 1.1m.
The U.S. simply left because the war was becoming more and more politically unpopular and Lyndon Johnson had already made off with his millions from investing in the war.
This meme that the rice farmers BTFOed the U.S. troops needs to be saged.

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>Superior numbers

Retard (pic not related)

>>134063939
>You know they chained men into vehicles so they wouldn't flee, right

Literally fake history, a myth. Ironic considering the US imprisoned teenagers who tried to run away from combat

>>134062167
>cancerous spread of whites
nice bait but id rather have whites spreading then retarded niggers and shitskins ruining the place.

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>>134063962
>keep trying the same shit again and again without realizing it doesn't work
>flag

>>134053904
>America
that's why

>>134062167
America bombarded and used Agent Orange so much that the Vietnamese had to call for a cease fire.

>>134053904
Using military tactics against a Gorrell army.

The US military at the time was trained to only handle fights against other armies, not Gorrell forces.

The strategic objective was to contain communism and prevent the Vietnamese people and nation from falling victim to it, and they attempted to do so by propping up an extremely unpopular regime in South Vietnam.

And since Americans don't understand the concept of cutting losses they wasted a ludicrous amount of resources, lives, and prestige on achieving nothing but some dead peasants whos available manpower despite the mounting losses was actually growing over time due to natural population growth and defections outpacing the losses. Not even strategically significant attrition was achieved.

>>134063257
If guerillas are so good against modern armies then what's an effective new method to take them on?

>>134053904

They BTFOd the French right before and the Chinese right after too.

The americucks never stood a chance.

>>134065179
Just bombard the shit out of them! Haha, winning!

The Indochina Wars (Vietnamese: Chiến tranh Đông Dương) were a series of wars fought in Southeast Asia from 1946 until 1989, between communist Indochinese forces against mainly French, South Vietnamese, American, Cambodian, Laotian and Chinese forces. The term "Indochina" originally referred to French Indochina, which included the current states of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. In current usage, it applies largely to a geographic region, rather than to a political area. The wars included:

The First Indochina War (called the Indochina War in France and the French War in Vietnam) began after the end of World War II in 1945 and lasted until the French defeat in 1954. After a long campaign of resistance against the French and the Japanese, Viet Minh forces had claimed a victory (the August Revolution) after Japanese and Vichy French forces surrendered in the North on 15 August 1945. In the War in Vietnam (1945–46), British forces temporarily occupied the South, starting from 13 September 1945, only to restore French colonial control in 1946. In the United Nations and through their alliance with the United Kingdom and the United States, the French demanded return of their former Indochina colony prior to agreeing to participate in the NATO alliance (founded in 1949) opposing Soviet expansion beyond the countries of the Warsaw Pact (founded in 1955) in the Cold War. The communist/nationalist Viet Minh, whom the Allies had supported during the war, continued fighting the French with support from China and the Soviet Union, ultimately forcing the NATO-backed French out of Indochina (1954).

>>134065752
The Second Indochina War (called the Vietnam War in the West or the American War in Vietnam) began as a conflict between the United States-backed South Vietnamese government and its opponents, both the North Vietnamese-based communist Viet Cong (National Liberation Front) and the People's Army of Vietnam (PAVN), known in the West as the North Vietnamese Army (NVA). The conflict began in the late 1950s and lasted until 1975 when the North Vietnamese conquered South Vietnam. The United States, which had supported France during the first Indochina war, backed the South Vietnam government in opposition to the National Liberation Front and the Communist-allied NVA. The North benefited from military and financial support from China and the Soviet Union, members of the Communist bloc. Fighting also occurred during this time in Cambodia between the US-backed government, the NVA, and the Communist-backed Khmer Rouge (known as the Cambodian Civil War, 1967–1975) and in Laos between the US-backed government, the NVA, and the Communist-backed Pathet Lao (known as the Laotian Civil War or Secret War, 1962–1975).

>>134065799
The Third Indochina War was a period of prolonged conflict following the Vietnam War, in which several wars were fought:
The Cambodian–Vietnamese War began when Vietnam invaded Cambodia and deposed the genocidal Khmer Rouge régime. The war lasted from May 1975 to December 1989.
The Sino-Vietnamese War was a short war fought in February–March 1979 between the People's Republic of China and the Socialist Republic of Vietnam. The Chinese launched a Punitive expedition in revenge for the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia, and withdrew a month later to prewar positions. Skirmishes along the border would continue until 1990.
After the triumph of the Pathet Lao, an anti-communist insurgency in Laos lasted until most Hmong insurgents surrendered in 2007, though some resistance cells remain active. Thailand, which supported the Lao insurgents, as well as the anti-Vietnamese forces in the Third Indochina War, fought a few skirmishes with Vietnam in 1984, and a short conflict with Laos in 1987.
FULRO insurgency against Vietnam - United Front for the Liberation of Oppressed Races
The Communist Party of Thailand fought an insurgency from 1965-1989. They received backing from Laos and Vietnam from 1975-1979, however were expelled from their bases and lost most of their supply lines after they sided[when?] with the Cambodian-Chinese aligned forces, rather than the pro-Soviet Vietnamese and Laotian regimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indochina_Wars

>>134062167
>The US along with other (more successful) allies lands in Europe
>More successful
>Allies

What the fuck did I just read? Yes, Britain who sat on their island all war is more successful than the US.

Dont forget dien bien phu where the french were overran, and how the americans called it khe sahn, and how lbj said he would glass north vietnam if they tried to do to us what they did to the french (which they could have). They tried to fight a traditional war with an enemy that wouldnt fight by the rules

>>134053904
Because Walter Cronkite convinced the baby boomers that they were losing.

Because Johnson tried his best to handicap the military with proportional response because he didn't want to win too fast.

Yet the war was nothing but American victories.

>>134064874
>muh excuses

*music begins playing in the distance*
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uL1rwLY9yo

The Vietnamese warrior was superior to lazy fat fuck GIs. Simple as. He fought bravely for his homeland, fed only on a diet of rice and armed only with outdated chinese weapons and a handful of bullets against the invading round-eyed orc hoardes equipped with amoral satan weaponry like napalm, flamethrowers and cluster bombs. But the socialist warrior still won.

Deal with it, capitalist scum.

*music fades*

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because americans soldiers are pathetic.
the only thing they can do is either bomb or nuke you, but send a few soldiers and they lose to sandniggers and rice farmers.

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>>134057294
>"Oh yeah, we're in some kind of war in the middle east, right? Where was that, Iran, Sudan?"

>>134053904
after the tet offensive the us slowly retreated from vietnam as a whole.

the us also population got demorilized and lost the will to keep fighting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_hippie_movement
also the use of weapons like napalm and flametrowers caused massive controversy and more protests.

>>134065179
Dump a little Agent Orange

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>>134053904
To put it short
>Burgers hadn't even heard of Vietnam before the war, how enthusiastic would the soldiers be?
>Alternatively, people fight really fucking hard when they're defending their home
>The foreigners don't know the land, the people, the language
>people at home could see the horrors of war from their tv
>no one was expecting to lose so many Americans on the other side of the world to gooks with spike traps and tunnels
>Only way to find the gooks was essentially a scorched earth that also poisoned the population and soil

I'm probably missing a lot here, but you can read up on organised military v local insurgents and the results are the same.

>>134067117
Memes aside. Do military people's wives always cheat on them?

>>134067445
>Do people's wives always cheat on them?
ftfy

>>134066509
That's cause you lack the brain power to even make nukes or manufacture bombers.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uGyGJofKkQ

>>134067445
Id say so but I suppose the biggest reason for that is that military people are usually lower class members.

>>134067445
You're kind of asking a lot if you leave your girl home and then spend your tour fucking whores.

Long distance relationships overall tend not to work out well.

>>134053904
No scoops.

>>134053904
They had backing by the Russian military and our politicians fucked up by pulling out to soon and not sending in enough troops.

Henry A. Kissinger quietly acknowledged to China in 1972 that Washington could accept a communist takeover of South Vietnam if that evolved after a withdrawal of U.S. troops -- even as the war to drive back the communists dragged on with mounting deaths.

President Richard M. Nixon's envoy told Chinese Premier Zhou Enlai: "If we can live with a communist government in China, we ought to be able to accept it in Indochina."

Kissinger's comments appear to lend credence to the "decent interval" theory posed by some historians who say the United States was prepared to see communists take over Saigon as long as, to save face, that happened long enough after a U.S. troop departure.

But Kissinger cautioned in an interview yesterday against reaching easy conclusions from his words of more than three decades ago. "One of my objectives had to be to get Chinese acquiescence in our policy," he said.

"We succeeded in it, and then when we had achieved our goal, our domestic situation made it impossible to sustain it," he said, explaining that he meant Watergate and its consequences.

The meeting with Zhou took place in Beijing on June 22, 1972, during stepped-up U.S. bombing and the mining of harbors meant to stall a North Vietnamese offensive that began in the spring. China, North Vietnam's ally, objected to the U.S. course but was engaged in a historic thaw of relations with Washington.

Kissinger told Zhou that the United States respected its Hanoi enemy as a "permanent factor" and probably the "strongest entity" in the region. "And we have had no interest in destroying it or even defeating it," he insisted.

He complained that Hanoi, in negotiations, had made one demand that he could never accept -- that the United States force out the Saigon government.

"This isn't because of any particular personal liking for any of the individuals concerned," he said. "It is because a country cannot be asked to engage in major acts of betrayal as a basis of its foreign policy."

In January 1973, the Paris Peace Accords officially halted U.S. action, left North Vietnamese troops in the South and preserved the Saigon government until it fell in April 1975.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/26/AR2006052601926.html

OH MY!

shitty mattel gun. every veteran that lived grabbed an AK asap

>>134057820
I don't see much refuting of points. Just a bitter commie.

Real wars cannot be won while adhering to international war laws.

>>134064616
Kek

Looks like the war happened for no reason at all. Huh.

>>134068296
And just like a Jew, Kissinger didn't give up his nobel peace prize.

>>134053904
>America """"""lost"""""" Vietnam
niceme.me

>>134068444
Well they didnt """"""win"""""" thats for sure

>>134053904
The antiwar movement created a climate where our govt/military alligator-armed the whole thing. Had we fully committed to it, we would've won.

>>134065179

Bio weapons, I'd imagine. Can't hide in caves in shit if your air is polluted with ebola on steroids.

>>134053904
These threads are only ever funny when started by a French anon

>>134059451
Vietnam War anime. Now thats the dumbest fucking thing I've seen in years.

>>134068404
As Vietnamese Jewmerican, this pisses me off very much.

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Amerifats explain this

>>134069474
The CIA fucked up. Read, "The Secret Team" by L. Fletcher Prouty. It's one of the earlier examples he uses to demonstrate the typical folly.

>>134053904
Politics as usual. Vietnam was never declared a war.

>>134070374
IT SURE STOPPED COMMUNISM THO :D

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

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>>134069474
Easy. That's all the NVA had.

Shoot some 5.56 through foilage and you'll have everything you need to know

>>134069474
because the vietnamese were just copying what the americans did to the british in a lot of ways, only with far more dangerous (but still cheap) technology. Those dumb scenes in the Vietnam war movies ARE accurate where they will just be walking along and a landmine goes off underneath them.

But Americans were working with native american tribes (as well as having lived them with their families for generations of gathering, farming, hunting, fishing the nearby area their whole lives. Even at the start America was a pretty big country compared to European countries.

We also didn't go into Vietnam with the intent of killing every last one of them which definitely would have been possible with some nukes. We were trying to make America look good and we were plastered all over it so our troops had to look good. That's why the media started attacking the war in Vietnam. If Vietnam fell (like it did) Communism would last a lot longer in Asia than it should (like it did). They wanted American troops to look like cowards slaughtering children and show that this whole war was pointless. People ate this propaganda up because it is very easy to sell "hey war is bad let's just bring our troops home". People usually have a hard time opposing that. There was also the landmine fiasco I mentioned earlier which is important for a reason. Instead of coming back DEAD, most of the soldiers would come back INJURED. A lot of them in horrible ways- PTSD, missing limbs, shot nerves. Blind, deaf, or both. Some of them with their faces melted like wax. That was a powerful message on its own for Ma and Pa civilian that maybe it was time to leave those dumb Vietnamese rats alone.

It's slowly going that way for the middle east in general. Most people are starting to get annoyed with the fact we are constantly in wars over oil and people are dying over money. Fuck the petrodollar

>>134053904
Because it wasn't a real war just a way for people to make money

>>134059202
>Le epic rape babies maymay

Once again, the commie does not have an argument.

>>134057199
If we would have escalated the war with the Chinese we would have won and totally crippled Russia. While at the same time having a massive Allie in China.

>>134054174
This is why I lift.

>>134057458
THIS

>>134053904
>Why did America lose?
America didn't lose a war. That country got butt-fucked and lost all of its infrastructure.

But unlike every other war in history they didn't murder civilians and import people to take over the land, so the occupation failed.

Same with Iraq.

>>134053904
Check the Vietnam war ROE and compare that to WW ll ROE, you goddamn complete fucking retard.

>>134053904
Americans are, pound for pound, one of the worst militaries in history. Not even a joke. They have never won a real war. I think it's probably because Americans are cowards.

>>134058806
>>134059917
>>134059467

I believe 4chan is the true Jew, the destructor of the white race. Without this website, no one would be turned on by this picture

>>134059054
Stingers barely made a difference in a Afghanistan. Soviets aided NVA with their latest AA weapons and shot down many American aircraft at a time when Americans relied on emerging technology that was at its beginning stages and unreliable (air to air missiles, guided air to ground missiles). It's true that the US won most air to air engagements, but old MIGs still shot down F105s despite being outnumbered.
A showcase of American military planning efficiency thanks to quant molitary planners like Mcnamera; https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanh_H%C3%B3a_Bridge

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Igloo_White

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_losses_of_the_Vietnam_War#USAF_fixed-wing

Soviets always had upper-hand in anti-aircraft weapons compared to west.

The Vietnamese were the heroes that gun toting rednecks have wet dreams of becoming. Not that the rednecks would really know what it's like to see your whole village soaked in napalm, your children burnt to death, and then running through the forest in sandals to try to stop the invaders while they're spraying agend orange at you from planes...

>>134072316
I think there's diminishing returns for military expenditures vs effectiveness

It was a war that was not meant to be won. Just make a few elites rich.

>>134064424
Please don't make me remind you that Italy lost war with Albania.

>>134065179
Corruption and clouds of nanodrones.

>>134065274
They did that and they still lost.

>>134054095
Tfw took me a 6 months to get to 135lb dumbbells.

>>134053904
Because we weren't allowed to do to Hanoi what we did a couple decades earlier to Tokyo/Hiroshima/Nagasaki.

My wife's dad and uncle were NVA, although her father only fought against the Chinese.

Vietnam used the Fabian strategy, same as Washington used to defeat the more powerful British army.

US fought with their hands tied.

The Soviets and Chinese supported the NVA with all their greatest weaponry, and the war actually ended in favorable terms for the US.

However, when Nixon had to resign and the Dems took Congress, the NVA broke the agreement because they correctly assumed the Dems would not give anymore support to the South Vietnamese military. Russia kept pouring support into the North, so they easily overtook the South.

>>134053904
Traitors at home, durrrr
Jane Fonda should have hanged

>>134072473
>. Not that the rednecks would really know what it's like
yes, the american Civil war was a picnic that left the South untouched.

> utter moron with zero historical awareness detected

>>134072316
>conquer a continent
>win petty wars
Wonder which I'd pick, Chaim

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They lost for the same reason you can never steal something someone wants to give you.
When the enemy are the same people you are trying to win over you cant kill them and save them at the same time. Its a paradox.

>>134073016
Rednecks don't remember that because it happened 200 years ago. Also did Yankees use Napalm and Agent orange on Confederates? I think not. Utter moron with zero historical awareness detected.

North Vietnam didn't beat America. America beat itself. As people in this thread already pointed out, the US was already winning but just couldn't complete the job due to incompetent leadership and opposition from back home

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So much quibbling. Let's run this down. Here are the choices,

a. won
b. lost

Did you win? Well, punk, did you?

>>134053904
Because it was an occupation, not a war.

>>134053904
fighting guerrilla warfare is harder than fighting any country

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>>134072924
>mfw this idiot thinks anyone believe his e-stat bullshit

fuck off back to /fit/ you transparent little faggot.

>>134053904
They won but we got more kills. Hardily a humiliation.

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>>134073247
>The commies didn't beat us! We actually beat ourselves!

These mental gymnastics. Toppest of keks.

>>134072939
It was all a vestigial feudal French plantation conflict and your country was tricked into that clusterfuck by the Vatican. Stop nuking heretics for the Pope like some retarded tool nation, grow up.

>>134072053
>America didn't lose a war. That country got butt-fucked and lost all of its infrastructure.

Why is Amerifat education so shit?

I guess France and England lost WW2 because their countries got butt fucked and lost its infrastructure

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>>134054174
How do I get my sack to hang like that?

>>134057092
The Chiraq crime rate has killed more pavement apes in the past few years than all of Vietnam

>>134073556
Real war isn't COD. KD is irrelevant. Easy to get lots of kills when you are burning women and children to death by dropping napalm from the sky.

>>134058755
Nothing.

The goal of Vietnam wasn't tied to the Eisenhower Doctrine as much as it was to test the functionality and sustainability of the military industrial complex and do targeted war studies. If you really read into the conflict, stuff like the pentagon papers or the bullshit "trigger" event Gulf of tonkin, you'll find that this was more of a grandiose fucked-up controlled experiment than a conflict formed from altruism.

It's easy, the NVA always had the initiative while the Americans and South Vietnamese were always on the defence or reacting to an attack

The north had the local support that grew over time because of the unpopularity of the southern governement that oppressed moreover the buddhists as the president was a catholic hating them

With full local support, no problem of manpower and an advantageous terrain that you know very well you virtually cannot lose a guerilla war and always end up wining

>>134054095
We'll I guess 135 is a lot for a gook..

>>134073463
So defensive anon. What's your problem? Mad you still can't break 205lb bench?

>>134053904
The gorilla jungle gook in the ultimate warrior
Plus, the first gen M16 was utter trash

>>134073858
yes the kalashnikov system was at this time obviously superior, more ammo in the magazine, allow more fire superiority, very reliable, cheap to maintain, the best rifle until we invented high tech scopes

Lol, laughable.

Yes, the USA joined in at the end of WWI, and the end was near solely because the USA joined and won it. France, Britain, and Russia fought Germany to a stalemate, and Russia exited the war a few months after the USA entered.

Germany would have sprinted through Western Europe if not for Russia... like they did 20 years later. Speaking of which, Churchill stated that Britain's only chance of survival was massive support from the USA.

And lol, the USA supported the USSR logistically in a massive way, which is unfortunate. We should have cut a deal with Hitler and split Europe and Asia between the two of us.

>>134057855
>Pic related to US forces creating valuable reef structure for the Democratic peoples of Saigon.
you made me chuckle.

>>134073008
Pretty sure Vo Nguyen Giap got his tactics from the Art of War by Sun Tzu

No history, and no math. Sad!

The Yankees burned the south entirely, yes.

>>134063257
That's not true and you know it. US couldn't enter North Vietnam nor Laos/Cambodia, making this war at best never ending.

>>134053904
We didn't
Walter Cronkite the most trusted man in news at the time looked in the camera and lied to the American people and said the war was unwinnable after the TET offensive which was one of the most lopsided victories for the US Armed forces at the time, the NVA was on the verge of surrender when Cronkite and his media cronies turned public opinion against the war.

America chose to lose.

>>134074205
If you defeat your enemies, they win.

>>134074086
Guerrilla warfare has existed since the beginning of time anon.

>>134072924
Tfw took me 6 days to get to 315lb dumbbells
This thread is for men, betacucks and teenage girls need to go

>>134054687
Drug and alcohol use was the highest in any war among soldiers. You can bet your bottom dollar hippies were sent there to kill.

>>134060188
>>134057964
Also, bc they were fighting the Chinese. Perhaps the nation with the worst track record when it come to war

Neither weapon made much of a difference. It wouldn't have changed anything if one side used M1 Garands instead of M-16s or AK-47s. Artillery, air power, and AA weapons played MUCH larger roles than small arms.

>>134074086
More from Mao's interpretation of Sun Tzu, he theorized a lot about it until he managed to take over the mainland

Chinese experts were most probably behind the success of forming such guerilla, the chinese communist guerilla was really competent

>>134074301
Tfw it took me 6 hours to get to 3150lb dumbells. Beta manlets get out of this thread. If you're not literally Atlas, you're a fucking cuck.

>>134054095
Lol no same reason why we can't win in the Middle East-we don't want to kill every single shit skin living there.

China and Russia got involved. France bailed early on.

China cucked the US in North Korea and Vietnam.

The sneaky China Man with his ching chong Art of War ways.

>>134059280
US will win the war in Afganistan, because the terrain drastically limits supply sorties for the Taliban

>>134074395
Tran Hung Dao used guerilla warfare to repel three Mongolian invasions in the 13th century after the Chinese got invaded by Mongolians.

>>134069474
What is the military industrial complex? Can't make money if everyone's shit is fully functional/not blowing up.

>>134074455
Tfw it took me 6 minutes to BTFO Atlas in Greco-Roman wrestling and put the earth on my shoulders. It's like a share a board with infants.

>>134074595
I thought the mongolians took over the north of Vietnam, seems I don't know that much of vietnamese history, well it's not a surprise for I know nothing about it

No, I've heard from NVA "American War" vets. Their military got fucked up big league. My wife's grandma would pray that my wife's uncle would get a leg blown off, but survive, because it was unthinkable that they could come home unscratched with the slaughter they were facing.

Attractive women would marry guys with disabilities that prevented them from service, to avoid becoming widows.

Like I stated, the war was ended on favorable terms to the US, and the North would never have considered invading the South while Nixon and A Republican Congress was in power.

The Communist Vietnamese admitted this.

>>134074689
Tfw it took me 6 seconds to lift up your mom

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>>134072667
>Italy lost war with Albania
did italy do anything right in the last 100 years

> implying the resources asked for were given
didn't Germany lose ww1 bacause they were cucks who had no iorn

>>134074722
Read more of it. It's pretty fucking epic. Vietnam and Japan were the only ones who fended off the Mongolians. China and Korea got fucked.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasions_of_Vietnam

The Vietnamese used Fabian strategy against the Mongols too. Better countries couldn't, because they had castles and valuable things to protect from the Mongols. Vietnam had shit, so they could abandon everything, force the Mongols to chase, until they reach muddy places where Mongolian horses were ineffective.

>>134074815
No they didn't they played for time to stage another attack.

>>134074815
This. Vietnam beating the US is such a huge fucking meme that it became mainstream

>>134060054

$900 worth of Steak and Shake right there.

>>134058617
Into the ovens you go.

>>134053904
USA: 58,000 dead
NVA: 1,100,000 dead

Sure showed us.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

*breathes*

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>134053904
Hippies, mostly. We got cold feet because of them.
Atleast bringing this up shuts up every retard who thinks the US can never have a domestic rebellion.

>>134075273
>KD ratio

Too much cringe

No, they didn't. The failed Tet Offensive made the Viet Cong largely combat ineffective for the rest of the war.

Next, Operation Linebacker broke the back of the NVA.

>>134075273
usa + allies around 800 k
nva around 1.1kk
one side had cutting edge weapon the other rice fields and chinese sks

>>134072924
half-repper confirmed

Politics, we weren't allowed to invade the north and were sent home shortly after one of our greatest victories in the war.

>>134075415
about half of those were civilians, so congratulations to NVA for war crimes! US soldiers vs NVA wooped ass, so quit being retarded.

>>134075858
Dropping cluster bombs, napalm and agent orange on farmers with sks, so brave!

>>134057711
it's all about the KD
>>134057820
t. butthurt chink

>>134075858
Such a good goyim, supporting needless wars.

>>134075858
How about going to war with North Korea next? They have nukes and they don't have a central bank!

>>134076190
4 nukes and no more nk we would eliminate a threat for even but no everyone is a pussy

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>>134073845
>mfw this little e-stat bitch thinks 205 is some kind of "impressive" benchmark

LOL. give it a rest, squirt. you're fooling no one.

>>134054174
WTF, how did you get a picture of my ass?

>>134075858
>american mongrel complaining about warcrimes
stfu

>>134075071
They still suceeded in their objectives and the Americans abandoned their ally. But the meme of "4'11" rice farmers with rifles beating most powerful military themselves" is mischaracterization.

The VC would fit that description but the NVA was well equipped (especially in late stages with mechanized infantry) with the latest AAA weapons courtesy of the Soviets and ample resources flowing from their neighbor to north. The Americans military planners were still utterly incompetent (some of the blame on politics but not all) and you had cases of "fragging" with the lower officers. US for instance completely misused the F105 aircraft (originally a fast deep-strike nuclear bomber) as a improvised fighter-bomber and there it got beaten by older but better maneuverable MIGs. The ARVN did get abandoned but their leaders were the most incompetent and corrupt of all along with numerous commie infiltrators in their ranks.

>>134076476
SPOILERS your homo boyfriend is a perv

>>134075398

It was a proxy war. China was gonna send in 100,000 slant eyed China men indistinguishable from the Vietnamese gooks.

>>134054095
We out-killed them by over 1 million to 50,000.

>>134076864
> lost
you means won you Australians were pussys in every war so its no surprise you get those 2 confused

The Jews sure are masters at deception.

The "Art" of War

There are well-known methods employed in initiating and sustaining wars. The Jesuits & Freemasons are the secret masters of this deception:

False-Flag Operations: where an attack is made by a nations own leaders on their own people under the false claim that it was made by the enemy is employed to feed the flames of hatred and encourage people to go to war. Countless examples of False-Flag operations exist, and most of them lead directly to the very same group of dimwitted despots called the Illuminati. 9/11 is one of the more recent well-known ones along with the Obama Terrorist gassing of Syrian children. The brining of the Reichstags, and attacks on Nazi border posts by Hitler's Terrorists are other well-known False-Flags, so too is the attack on Pearl Harbor.

The Hegelian Dialectic: Hegel was a philosopher during the French Revolution who promoted the concept of Dividing to Conquer along with the Freemasonic & Jesuit Gang motto "The end justifies the means" and "Order out of chaos". Chapter 322 in Germany follows the Hegelian philosophy, its U.S. branch, the Yale Bones Club, is however better known.

The Hegelian Dialectic forms a fundamental strategy of the Illuminati & it represents the Two-Faced War God Janis. The god who looks both ways to divide and conquer.

>>134075273
>>134077043
They had the numbers for sure. Basically, that is communism for you, endless supply of manpower provided by propaganda/brainwashing.

>a larger and better funded military force tries to brute force there way through a bunch of natives exploiting guerilla tactics in their home territory
Its almost like the US completely forgot how we beat the British and then made the same damn mistake as the British

>>134077153
Wasn't the Gulf of Tonkin incident a false flag, too? Hmm.

Because the US did not heed the First Rule of Warfare: If you are in a war do your utmost to end it as quickly as possible.

>>134073463
>135 lbs is such an incomprehensible number that you think he is bragging
Being sensitive in top of being a midget is very unseemly

>>134072402
>implying
This site panders to a fetish I didn't even know about until I started going on here. It's so bad that at this point I prefer a pretty trap over a pretty girl. It makes my dick fucking diamonds I can't explain it. I get an erection every time. As I type this I'm pitching a tent so hard my cock keeps slipping out of my underwear. I would trade every interaction of sex I've had with a girl to be able to have some sort of sexual benefit with a good looking trap. At last it will never be though because they're fucking unicorns and the majority of them are hons or twinks RPing.

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>>134077792
>1 post by this ID

strong projection from the obvious manlet spotted lmfao. i love how this turbo hobbit is role playing as if 135lb dumbbells for bench press is casual weight.

you're not fooling ANYONE, bitch boy. get a clue.

>>134076107
not supporting needless war, but don't read the scoreboard wrong!

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>>134053904

we only dropped more bombs than all of WWII, clearly not enough to get the gooks out of their tunnels, plus, of course, the libs made us lose

>>134078472
Hmm, ok. But you have to remember that the NVA only started training in 1945 while the US already had military experience in war.

>>134053904
strict adherence to rules of warfare. gooks used ceasefires to to make sneak attacks. american could have just napalmed forests and villages and easily won

>>134053904
wat makes u think we lost?

>>134053904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bmMl2OGVQ0

>bomb a village to shit
>go in and rape the survivors
>more and more South Vietnamese turn to the cause of the NVA/VC solely because it fights off the Americans
>they all hide in caves where we can't bomb them
>so our solution is bomb more villages
>repeat for 20 years
Gee golly gosh why did we lose

>>134079042
>american could have just napalmed forests and villages and easily won

You did that but didn't win

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>>134053904
>America
>Winning anything

This video cracked me up in the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEvNZCUqGRM

>>134053904
Gooks back up and supplied by chinks and russkies.
US build up was too slow.
US had commanders that only cared about their careers and not about winning the war, just the battles that got them praise.
ROE tied the hands of US personnel.

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>>134074866
You commies are always cheating. Luckily it's only for show

>>134059280
>bad habit
Almost seems like a consistent pattern to me anon. I think your a bit gullible tbqhwu.

>>134077829
>>134059917
You faggots need to just to take a dick in your ass and give up your manhood. You bring dishonor to you famiry. KYS

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>>134053904

I'll tell you why

Hippies
The origin point of all this left wing bullshit
The ground zero
The beginning of the decline of Western Civilization undermined by (((College Professors)))
The start of subhuman crying about "muh rights"
The time when the cancer of Individualism begin to spread among the youth
The time when disbelieve your country is the main culture

We should have crush them while we can....


Fuck Hippies!

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>>134063462

>>134082817
Go back home, white piggu.

>>134054174
Speaking about traps...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4cLiV_o8Go

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>>134083183

Mad, nigger?

>>134083468
Hitler was a Jew Rothschild who waged war that killed many white Europeans. I am Asian, but still, that is fucked up.
Was Hitler a Rothschild? By David Icke
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_rothschild04.htm
Agreement between Nazi Germany and Jew Zionists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

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>>134083711

Yeah, you are really mad now, nigger.
Why aren't you picking cotton btw?

>>134084083
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uC4AUyju7k

>>134084413

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWhOYhrUOQg

>Your ancestor