Breaking: McConnell calls for vote on Obamacare repeal

So straight repeal?

>>134029400
That would pass. I'm excited to see it happen.

>>134029400
So now America has no healthcare law. This should be good

>>134029657
technically yes, but he doesn't have the votes for it
what he's doing is forcing a vote so everyone goes on record as aye or nay on repeal
this is either punishing the Republican senators for not supporting him, or shoring up Republican senators among their base
I can't decide which yet

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>>134029400
But who will pay for his healthcare now?

Worked fine for 230 years.

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>>134029717
A full repeal and no replace currently has an 8% approval rating.... The GOP are about to hand the next presidency to the most far left radical socialist you can imagine for fucking up this easy layup.

>>134029721
Back to where it was before the commie in chief and his cohorts fucked shit up -- spoiler alert: it was great.

>>134029854
Feudalism worked fine for thousands, should we go back to it?

>>134029920
>worked fine
Did it?

>>134029854


I wonder how many years people shat in ditches and used leeches for advanced medicine.

>>134029400
I would prefer a repeal, hope this sails through. And all of you idiots saying "no more healthcare", you can still get healthcare, your lazy ass just has to pay like the rest of us.

>>134029854

Define "working fine".

>>134029920
oh I love these non-equal comparisons. if only there was a logical fallacy named after them.

>>134029906
It happened literally two years ago if not for king nigger, you can't honestly expect me to believe that figure

>>134029995
Yes, it did, compared to Feudalism democracies were considered highly ineffective for anything other than a tiny state.
Monarchism take over when

>>134030070
I was pointing out the flaw with an example fuckhead, just because something has worked in the past doesn't mean going back to it now is a great idea. If you'd have given reasons why it worked or reasons why this is better I wouldn't have needed to, but you didn't, you used a shitty piece of logic with no backup. Go fuck yourself.
Also learn the fallacy fallacy faggot.

>>134029400
A full repeal is a 60 vote threshold.

>>134029906
Before ObamaCare, 85% of people had insurance and 95% of those 85% were happy with their coverage. Google it. The leftist media can run all the fake polls and fake news they want but 2017 isn't 2008 and no one believes them anymore. Between the deportations and the voter fraud commission finding the millions of illegal votes, libshits aren't going to win anything in 2018 and 2020.

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>>134030080
What does belief have to do with it? Just type it in. It's directly from a Pew study on the individual policies of the ACA done maybe 3 months ago. I was honestly surprised it was so low.

you dumb fucks missing the 2 year delay part, if they pass this bill it would take 2 years to wind down obamacare.
in that time they would have to come up with a replacement and get it passed.
catch is you are not going to control congress in two year time
hahahahahahahahahahaha
YOU LOST

>>134029837

hahaha after McConnell was forced to give massive handouts to republican senators for their states or pet projects he's now going to swipe it all away and see who's left standing.

could this be any worse for the established republicons? I'm honestly shocked McConnell has decided to do this.

>>134029906
Just get rid of it all. There was nothing wrong with healthcare before the Dems a/b tested it and realized it could get them some gibs votes.

>>134030223
>were considered
Yeah nice.
So did it work so great?
It didn't bring prosperity to people at all.

>>134030239
That would be to avoid a veto. You don't think Trump would veto a repeal, do you? You only need 50+Pence right now.

>>134029920

Actually we should. Go read Archeofuturism.

>>134030330
So you wouldn't count anything in the last few thousands of years of European prosperity?
The empires that have risen and fallen never prospered?
But regardless of that, I don't need evidence for my claim, since the other anon had none. His is as valid as mine. That's my point.

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>>134030321
Wat? The premiums under Bush were rising faster than at any other point in modern history and that includes post-Obamacare. Just because you were in high school when Bush was president doesn't mean there was nothing wrong with it before. The only reason Ocare passed is because the previous system was such a pile of shit in the first place.

>>134030384
>Archeofuturism
Will do, thanks for the recommendation

>>134030067
>get good job
>get good insurance
System work good.

>>134030277
Even if that were true. Dems won't take the senate in 2018.

>>134030553
The only reason it passed was because pedocrats had a super majority you mong. And they still barely did it.

>>134030553
That's just not true my nigger. I've actually been an adult since Bush was elected. I paid $250/mo for 100% coverage, no deductible the year before AHCA was passed. Right now I'm paying about $600/mo for 80% coverage with a $2500 individual deductible. Don't fucking tell me that obamacare was good unless you are a poor nigger that got healthcare for free regardless of the law.

>>134029920
Feudalism was good when resources were scare and we were living in a post-Apocalyptic world that was post-Roman Europe. There's too much wealth now for that to be viable.

I'm thinking just say fuck it, lets get the band back together and reform the Roman Empire. Let the ruling murder the fuck out of each other all the time and leave the rest of us alone.

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>>134030274
>ask a bunch of liberal turds what they think about a conservative bill or politician
>act shocked when the results match the conclusion you wanted

>>134029913
ah yes, the beautiful of premiums tripling in 10 years, being thrown off coverage for bullshit reasons the second you need it and the uninsured rate skyrocketing

that utopia. you fucking idiot

>>134030778
*ruling elites

>>134030513
Europe came out powerful but I don't think it was so great for its people for most of its history. I guess it was OK if you compare it to other nations at the time but still.

>>134030277
Their is not enough seats in the mid-term for Dems to win to make a difference , the mid terms are for Republicans to win or fail

>>134029906
Meh... if they do, at least we'll be able to get this party started.

>>134030599
>those with lower wage jobs can't afford care
>become a debt burden
>cease contributing to economy as they're forced to pay off medical debt instead of purchasing local products
>this is a better word according to the republican party

>>134029913
literally noone thinks the healthcare system was good before obama.

>>134030267
>Before ObamaCare, 85% of people had insurance and 95% of those 85% were happy with their coverage. Google it. The leftist media can run all the fake polls and fake news they want but 2017 isn't 2008 and no one believes them anymore

the current uninsured rate is 7% (even with Florida and Texas not joining Ocare), premium rises have slowed and people can't be thrown off coverage for BS reasons.

Again, what a disaster Obamacare has been!

>>134030223
The wheel has worked in the past, should we abandon that? My point holds true faggot. Here's a quick follow-up question to show your faggot logic.

When was the Feudalism abandoned in the United States? Again, you're comparing apples and oranges. Let me ruin the answer for you, it was never implemented.
>muh example
Your example is bullshit, and not anywhere relative to American culture, history, or economics. This doesn't even fall under fallacy fallacy, because your idiot point is that an entire system of society didn't work out elsewhere in the world so we should all get taxed for other people's health.

If I can't control what they eat, what they drink, what substances they are around, and who they sleep with -- I shouldn't be required to pay for their health. A government health plan has nothing to do with a feudal system of government, like a drawing pencil has nothing to do with a wheel. A good tip for life, if you have to make hypothetical comparisons, like you did, to prove a point -- you have none.

>>134030602
>Even if that were true
tell me then what does the 2 year delay mean then?
I swear the IQ here is lower then Ferguson

>>134030830
I'm sorry, does your employer not offer health benefits that meet your needs? I hear there's other employers or a private market you can use. I think the reality is, you don't know what you're talking about.
>>134030513
Exactly the point of this faggot. He's trying to switch topics to something completely unrelated to the issue at hand. Your claim is moot the second you used an apples to oranges comparison.

>>134029721
Yeah it's not like the 50 states have any laws regarding healthcare.

>>134030863
The ruling elite had more obligation to keep the peasantry happy back then than they do now.

>>134031098
What the fuck are you on?
It was an example of because something worked in the past it doesn't mean it will work perfectly now, I spelled this out for you yet you're still incapable of understanding.
You're original post said:
>X worked for Y years, therefore it'll work again.
You didn't give examples of how it worked and how it will still worked, your only argument was that it worked for a number of years.
Fudalism function for a number of years, so by the logic of your original post, you want it back.
Fuck off with your strawmen.

>>134031257
Read what I'm saying, you Southern nigger.
I already spelled it out here:
>>134030223
But you're too retarded to understand what
>just because something has worked in the past doesn't mean going back to it now is a great idea
>If you'd have given reasons why it worked or reasons why this is better I wouldn't have needed to

>>134029854
Yes, but now we've got a metric fuckton of Mestizos whose children have the sniffles.

>>134030771

Thank you. We need to cut loose the dead weight.

>>134031257
>I'm sorry, does your employer not offer health benefits that meet your needs?

at no point did I mention employer benefits. Premiums tripled from 99-10 before Obamacare passed. Repealing Obamacare would be a straight disaster for anyone, including people who get their coverage through their employers.

>>134029906
>Obamacare has 92% support

Yeah, sure.

>>134030771
>Don't fucking tell me that obamacare was good unless you are a poor nigger that got healthcare for free regardless of the law.


premiums tripled before Obamacare was passed, stupid

>>134029906

i wish that would happen but it won't. the superdelegate system will ensure another clinton-type neoliberal democrat is nominated

>>134031037
>did a poll of the entire nation.
sure you did faggot. I'm a real person, not literal, telling you it was better. Smashed that stupid assumption.
>>134031095
>repeats media talking points
I'm betting you're a hipster. Hard for premiums to rise when there's no insurance carrier in a market. Total insured is a bogus metric anyways. Some people may not need insurance, but hey -- we forced them by threat of weaponized taxation.
>>134031453
I never once said I wanted Feudalism back. We were talking forced health care and you were talking now replaced system of governments. I pointed out the wheel worked fine in the past as an example that just bc something worked doesn't mean it needs replaced, about the opposite of what you're saying. Often times, people who are believers of propaganda have a mental click when they try to think through it.
>faggot wants an example as to why AHCA is worse.
Medical services are not a constitutionally guaranteed right. Therefore, the AHCA is not within the realms of the government authority to tax -- unless we're talking interstate commerce relationships between insured and insurors. I believe my constitutional argument may be lost to your flag, but its all we need. Its a shame you're too faggot to think straight. I don't have to prove to you shit until you fly an American flag.
>southern nigger
You better remember who started the war of northern aggression, and who was so good at killing yankees the instigators started killing women and children.
>>134031776
> THE SKY IS FALLING
ok faggot.

>>134031884
Read my post again friend.
>>134031762
I feel like I'm the only one left that remembers that this was a manufactured crisis with the aim of more government control over people's lives. There was seriously nothing wrong with healthcare but CNN and the DNC Russia'd it like crazy.

>>134031851

>8% for something automatically means 9% for some other thing

A burger that doesn't know how numbers work?!
How could this be possible?!

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Bin Laden's still dead.

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ANY REPUBLICAN WHO VOTES AGAINST THE REPEAL IS A FUCKING DEMOCRAT

PLAIN AND SIMPLE

>>134030316
>>134030274
Shareblue gtfo were having a serious discussion.

>>134030830
>ah yes, the beautiful of premiums tripling in 10 years

it tripled in under 5 years for me with ACA

>>134032085
Isis is still alive and Trump is president

>>134031996
Can you even read?
Can you actually read?
You're retarded.
I'm not literally saying you want Feudalism, I'm saying you gave such a shit piece of logic in your original post that you can use it to argue Feudalism easily, something that I assumed you wouldn't be in support of. I gave examples of how to make it not shit.
But all you can fucking do, is ignore my point that I've spelt out 3 times now, and get hung up on Feudalism, how hard does it trigger you?
Where on the doll did Feudalism touch you?

>>134032085
>No pictures
>Threw body off boat before even telling anyone
>Entire seal team 6 dead
>Trust us, he's dead, not a CIA asset living in luxury on a private island

LOL, okay dood

>>134032085
Prove it.

>INB4 We threw the body into the ocean and only showed pictures to congress because everyone believes congress, the white house, and the IC.

>INB4 WMD's

Why the fuck would anyone want this? This is the worst option of any of them.

>>134032027
>AHCA passed

you mean that part that didn't happen? I'm assuming you meant ACA, which means everything I said was true

>>134031884
If both what you and the anon you replied to said is true than premiums tripled from $85 to $250 before AHCA and then more than doubled from $250 to $600. This means that premiums increased over twice as much post AHCA compared to pre AHCA.

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>>134032442

>Obama is a seekrit Muslim
>But he didn't kill Osama
>But he is really a CIA asset

>>134029854
>paying 900/month for health insurance that didn't cover preexisting injury
>fine
Shiggy diggy
Also, you're worse than a jew nigger if you dont think it was better before Nixon allowed health insurance companies to profit bigly

>>134031996
>I'm betting you're a hipster. Hard for premiums to rise when there's no insurance carrier in a market.

>i-it's OK if premiums to skyrocket if we have choices of skyrocketing premiums

gee, you're a real genius, aren't you? Stabilizing the insurance market on the exchange would be easy, even without putting purchasable Medicare as an option

>>134032473

Oh please, even Al Qaeda admit he's dead.

>>134029837
voters have given Republicans bigger majorities in the past 3 elections precisely because they ran on an Obamacare repeal.
The media will throw a shitfit but nobody even notices that anymore.

>>134031996
Good luck finding an employer who will pay for your healthcare when it costs more than your total salary.

>http://www.businessinsider.com/health-care-costs-will-exceed-average-household-income-by-2030-2012-3

>>134032084
>9%
Fucked the landing, swedecuck.

>>134032709
And here's the archive
https://archive.is/lZiza

>>134032474
>Why the fuck would anyone want this?
Because trying to fix the unfixable Obamacare only prolongs the collapse. Without a full and total repeal of Obamacare the Dems will blame Republicans and Trump for the continued collapse and label OBAMACARE->TRUMPCARE.

Get rid of Obamacare like the Republicans promised from 2009-2016 and start over.

OBAMACARE IS LITERALLY POLITICAL CANCER!! Ask Democrats who have lost seats since 2009 because of Obamacare.

>This is the worst option of any of them.
Wrong.

>repeal vote
>no replace for 2 years

McConnell confirmed to get his party slaughtered next year.

>>134032730

New Keyboard, but I should have checked before I posted.

*Commits Sudoku*

>>134032669
>Al Qaeda says it so it must be true
>Believes a Mudslim terrorist group
Seriously?

>>134032614
Osama was a CIA asset for YEARS. Osama comes from a billionaire family, that's really good friends with the bushes. GB senior, was director of the CIA, and GWB made millions in Oil, bringing him close to saudis. Obama had nothing to do with Osama, and has nothing to do with muslim or anything like that, just money in our government.

>>134032507
Sorry, I've always just called it obamacare, I was trying to be nice. I guess it's ACA, not Affordable HealthCare Act. It cost me a boatload of money. I don't know how else to say it. I had a kid the year before it passed and my out of pocket was $0 on a $250/mo insurance plan. I had a kid the year after it passed for $500 out of pocket on a $400/mo insurance plan. Explain to me how it improved my life as a middle-class wageslave?

>>134030366
No full repeal vote would be procedurally vulnerable to a filibuster and a 2/3 cloture vote to break the filibuster.

Trump told them that they'll be losing in 2018 if they don't get it together, repeal Obamacare, and fall in line to support him.

And he's right. These republicans are setting themselves up for failure if they don't get it together.

>>134032955
Don't forget that McConnell used the "nuclear option" over Grosich. Filibuster is dead.

>>134032955
incorrect
Obamacare was passed in reconciliation. It can be ENTIRELY undone via reconciliation.

>>134032887

Why would they lie about their leader being taken out?

>>134031095

>Uninsured rate is low
>Fined for being uninsured

Funny how that works. Good thing everyone got what they wanted right? People still get the coverage they want right? People who liked their doctor could keep them right? Quality hans't taken a hit right?

>>134030366
Trump is on record saying he is for a straight up repeal. see his tweet (and vp backing him up) of about 30 minutes ago

>>134029400
if it manages to just get repealed, I'll be happy for once that our congress is incompetent and can't get anything done because that would mean it probably never gets replaced and we can go back to just fighting about medicaid cuts.

>>134030553
Bullshit!

In 2003 I was paying $85 a month for health insurance which represented half the premium. My employer paid the other half. I had a $500 deductible
The old system was better, it encouraged employees to do a good job and offered a way for employers to offer a benefit for a job well done and a way to retain good workers. The health insurance costs were rising slowly, but could have been easily fixed by deregulation.

>>134029400
>2 year delay for substitute

Yeah right. It will be effectively only a repeal if this passes. They won't be able to get another bill through -- just look at what happened the last time congress tried this shit with the automatic cuts to military spending.

Huge win for Rand Paul.

>>134033084

Wrong on both counts.

>>134030267

Source: your ass

>>134029400

The vote will fail in the Senate. Obamacare will remain. It's honestly the best option for Republicans right now, they should just focus on other stuff.

>>134033104
Why hunt a dead man?

>>134033182
I know, saw it in /ptg/. I think it's what they should have done in the first place. Let the free market solve this. Allow people to buy insurance across state lines. Shit, I live in one state and my insurance company is in another right now but it's all tied up in to my company.

>>134033104
>Bin Laden
>Al Qaeda's leader
fucking burger education

>>134029721
Yes, and all of the hospitals, medical facilities, and their respective staffs will simultaneously vanish into thin air.

>>134033104
>Why would they lie...
What is it like to live in a (((CNN))) dream world where you believe such things?

>http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/anti-soviet-warrior-puts-his-army-on-the-road-to-peace-the-saudi-businessman-who-recruited-mujahedin-1465715.html
http://archive.is/jmdSS

>http://www.businessinsider.com/1993-independent-article-about-osama-bin-laden-2013-12
http://archive.is/CYpjK

>>134029906
yeah the tiny percentage of people (niggers and other welfare trash scum) who actually benefited from the ACA were totally gonna flip Republican.

>>134029854
Get ready for riots in the streets. You CANNOT take away entitlements. It does not happen.

>>134033275

Why lie to all your people?

>>134030277
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>>134030553
>>134030771
>>134030830
>>134031037
Shareblue/ctr out in force.

>>134030830
I have to pay almost 10,000 fucking dollars before the "health care" actually starts to be of any use. And not to mention that dental insurance is mostly a joke and everybody pays out of pocket. But thank God Pedro, Jamal, and Ping-Pong can get health care for their 8 fucking kids.

perfect outcome tbqh lads

repeal and let the insurance companies eat shit

>>134030067
Darwinism

>>134032564
>someone who doesn't understand how health benefits through employers work

premiums rose but at a much slower rate after Obamacare passed.... if his premiums actually went from 200 to 600 then that means his dickhead employer just paid less into the insurance pool

>b-but ma anecdotal evidence

>>134033612
You're a special kind of stupid
>shariablue
>hating on how shitty obamacare is
>complaining about how it screwed my monthly health insurance premiums up
Learn to fucking read asshole.

>>134032442
Was on the boat when the body arrived, was on the detail. Obama is scum but the bin Laden killing was real. Pick your fights better.

>>134032926
your dickhead employer paid less into the program, premiums did not raise that fast

the only other explanation was you were paying for snake oil prior and after regulations were put in place to stop that they charged more

>>134033224

This is true. The healthcare system sucked before Obongocare, but the answer was not more government.

>>134033428
lel. it just may. and you're right. all hell will break loose

LAMAO

>>134030239
Which republicans have

>>134032707
>voters have given Republicans bigger majorities in the past 3 elections precisely because they ran on an Obamacare repeal.


w-we never said repeal and replace.... nu uh! it was just repeal allllll along!

stupid faggot

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>>134034002
Bullshit you were. Please leave, CIA. I'm just memeing anyways. Please don't waterboard me

>>134034050
Nope, it was incremental. Final result is $600/mo. This is a Fortune 50 company, it's not some mom and pop thing with passing the cost.

>>134034050
Oh yeah, I sure needed maternity and breast augmentation insurance as a single guy. Let's not even get into my menopause problems.

>>134029913

* During the months and years just prior to the March 23, 2010 passage of the ACA, claims about the “skyrocketing costs” of American healthcare were ubiquitous in the media.

* But in fact, from a historical perspective, healthcare spending in the U.S. was increasing more slowly than it had at any time in half a century.

* During the years 2000 through 2010—the decade just prior to the beginning of the ACA's implementation—Americans' total expenditures on physicians and related clinical services grew at the following rates: 7.0% in 2000; 8.6% in 2001; 8.0% in 2002; 8.0% in 2003; 6.9% in 2004; 6.0% in 2005; 5.2% in 2006; 5.2% in 2007; 5.4% in 2008; 3.3% in 2009; and 2.5% in 2010.

* By way of comparison, total healthcare spending in the U.S. grew by 10.3% in the year 1970, and by 13% in 1980.

* Critics of health insurance companies have routinely accused these firms of greed and price-gouging:

* In a July 2009 press conference, President Barack Obama said: "There have been reports just over the last couple of days of insurance companies making record profits, right now. At a time when everybody's getting hammered, they're making record profits, and premiums are going up."

* A few days later, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi accused insuerers of being "immoral," and called them "the villains" in the healthcare reform battle.

* In reality, each dollar of revenue that health insurance companies take in, includes just 2.2 cents of profit. [TAO: Loc. 2079-80]

* Notwithstanding the fact that pre-Obamacare medical expenditures nationwide were rising more slowly than in earlier times, the costs of healthcare obviously had risen sharply since decades past—both in real terms and as a share of America's Gross Domestic Product (GDP).

* In 1958, per capita healthcare expenditures in the U.S. was $134—or $1,083 in inflation-adjusted 2012 dollars.

* By 2012, per capita health spending had risen to $8,953 (in 2012 dollars).

>>134029913
>>134034277
A bit more:

* According to the New England Journal of Medicine: “Between 1950 and 2011, real GDP per capita grew at an average of 2.0% per year, while real national health care expenditures per capita grew at 4.4% per year. The gap between the two rates of growth—2.4% per year—resulted in the share of the GDP related to health care spending increasing from 4.4% in 1950 to 17.9% in 2011.”

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>>134029400
SAY IT WITH ME!

W.I.N.N.I.N.G!

>>134033739


>repeal and let the insurance companies* eat shit

*and also millions of americans

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>>134029400
Repeal is exactly what we want.
If any Republican votes against this they have proven themselves 100% to be a traitor

The one nice thing is this vote will give us the names

Once we have the name of every traitor and can start making a list of EVERY SINGLE PRIMARY they are attached too.

Sound like a plan everyone? Spread this info to every anon interested.

>>134032209
>stupid redneck again not understanding if his dickhead employer pays less he'll have to pay more

individual premiums did not skyrocket. your employer literally gambled on the idea that you'd blame your premiums skyrocketing on Obama and not him when he paid less into the plans

your premiums will not decrease, he now pays less and you were to notice why, just blame on Obama like the good boy that you are

>>134032290
if its any consolation i got your point when you made that post and i apologize that you had to spend 20 min explaining a very simple joke to a fellow burger

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>>134033384
>he doesnt know retardicans benefit more from obamacare than democrats

>>134033428
Get ready. It's about to.

>>134034277
>>134034332
It's almost like, Democrats are full of shit, again, as always.

* Between 1975 and 2010, the share of healthcare costs that Americans paid for on their own, rather than through insurance or with the help of government programs, steadily declined. [DOHL: Loc. 1221-22; TAO: Loc. 1557-60]

* By 2011, Americans were paying only 11 cents of every healthcare dollar directly-out-of-pocket.

* When people do not pay directly for their own healthcare, they are psychologically and materially insulated from the true cost of that care. And whenever people are insulated from the true cost of any product or service, they tend to consume more of it, thereby causing total expenditures (on the product or service) to skyrocket. [TTM: pp. 74, 78-79, 140]

* Duke University scholar and Forbes magazine contributor Chris Conover posits the following mental experiment: “If I promised to pay 89 percent of the cost of your groceries, would what you buy be different? Most students I ask freely concede that they would buy things they would not otherwise buy and might well pay higher prices even for things they would have bought anyway.”

* Pacific Research Institute president Sally Pipes also addresses this phenomenon: "If health care were free and available with no regard to cost, people could go to the doctor as often as they pleased.... Free restaurants would be nice, too. Why would anyone go to the trouble of dragging home groceries and wasting time cooking? Why would anyone not go for the best? The only thing is, someone would have to pay. Consumption would rise, and so would [food] costs. It’s the basics of economics. There has to be some mechanism for matching limited supply with potentially unlimited demand." [TTM: pp. 123-124]

>>134034343
No cuts are being made to Medicare. At worst, it's increase in budget will be smaller.

>>134034332

hm, it's almost like in an unregulated market hospitals and insurers can charge anything they want to people who are desperate for their product, IE life preserving medication

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>>134029400
Holy fkn shit, DilbertMan predicted this would happen
Said Trump is using the Rope-A-Dope, letting the GOP punch themselves out so they look foolish & unable to accomplish anything.
The only thing Trump will sign is what he wants, a FULL REPEAL.
PRAISE KEK

>>134034523
Smart boy

Dumbasses walking off a cliff

>>134034002
i was on seal team 6 and actually we sucked osama's dick before airlifting him back to texas to spend the rest of his days fucking white lolis as he was promised by the bush and clintons. then we all got circumcised again to reaffirm our loyalty to israel.

>>134034676
Not one chance that's his plan you fucking mongoloid

>>134034653
>healthcare, the most heavily regulated market in the us.
>unregulated.
You do realize that regulations generally raise costs and reduce quality right?

>>134034343
Where is Hillary's PRESIDENTIAL checklist?

>>134029850
S O M E O N E S G O T T A P A Y

>>134029400
>>134030239

It's a full repeal. Reconciliation. Obamacare expires in 2019 completely.

Forces Democrats to run to stop it, keep it.

Democrats are being forced to run to save Obamacare, repeal the repeal.

Republicans run on replacement.

They're exploiting Obamacare for another election cycle. Keeping it alive for political gain.

>>134029906
((8%))

>>134034818

Yeah, that's worked wonders for the telecoms right? Thank you free market, I love paying hundreds of dollars to Comcast for shitty internet with data caps and having no choice in the matter.

>>134031996
your flag lost the war, kys

>>134032085
One achievement doesn't make a whole presidency a good one

>>134029920
Yes.

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>>134034840
>Muh Hillary

Why do Trumplings think anyone cares about Hillary? Throw her in jail for all i care. Why hasn't Trump done this already?

>>134034636
That's a complete lie but ok.

>>134035099
>telcoms, the heavily regulated business where isps literally have legal fiefdoms.
>unregulated.
You seriously have no clue, do you?

>>134034790
The fkn salt is delicious you shill cocksucker
You will keep losing till you die
Take your .02 shekels and go the fuck back to your transgender studies

>>134034818
you mean to prevent snake oil from being sold to people? Or taking advantage of people through legal loopholes? Regulations on the healthcare market is actually bad for lawyers, it's the one thing the Dems stand for that isn't shilling for lawyers

>>134035210
StillWithHer detected

Republicans wanted to say fuck you to the elitist class of society by voting for an elitest smooth talking New Yorker and the elitest scumbags who all agreed with Bush that Iraq had WMDs, and insist upon tax breaks for the rich, don't want to see anyone from Goldman Sachs or these other shithead bankers cutting deals at the expense of the middle class serving time in jail for destroying people's livelihoods, these same voters don't wanna see Citizens United over turned becuase they like their corporate lobbyists to be able to pay an unlimited amount of money to political candidates in direct opposition to the limits imposed on ordinary middle class, and their hero in the White House wants more tax breaks for the richest people in this country, a class he himself is a member of.

The more you continue to use your opinion as a weapon in a never ending game of "us vs the rest of the world" the more you're playing right into your enemies' hands.

And now that it comes to light that any previous notion of Russia being fake news, of all these repeated members and ex-members of Trump's cabinet claiming they didn't contact any Russians whatsoever repeatedly peddling back their claims on a monthly basis, why this loyalty?

How can you not see or feel the giant red white and blue dildo being slammed up your ass everyday, and you excitedly respond
>Feels good to be winning!

You voted for Trump to say fuck you to the corporate elitests. Repealing and Replacing healthcare only benefits the health insurance industry, and indeed it's the health insurance industry that lines Republicans' pockets (and yes, Democrats' pockets are lined with their own lobbyists).

Cutting the corporate tax rate only benefits corporations.

Stop trying to fight everyone and fucking learn to get along with people of different races, sexes, political ideologies, or anything else that the elitests use to divide us. We are only strong when we the people act as one.
https://youtu.be/XLaLKEDI8x0

>>134035256
>implying

Don't worry, once your boy Trump gets to kill net neutrality you'll see what the free market is all about.

>>134034483
I have to spend long periods of time explaining shit to Burgers daily at this point, I'm used to it. But thanks, I guess, good to see you're not all retarded.

>>134034343
Thanks for helping to Correct the Record. $0.05 has been deposited in your account.

>>134035489
What needs to happen is the fed needs to start monopoly busting again. That won't happen until the uniparty swamp drains, however.

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guess we'll see how many Republicans are truly fiscally conservative

>>134032085
>No Body
>Team responsible has been killed in "accidents" one by one
Osama Bin Laden is living a life of luxury and our tax dollars pay for it.

>>134035210
>We Liberals are so smart
>We ran Hillary "Too smart to win" Clinton and lost against Trump
The left is literally AIDS infected cancer.

>>134034174
i love this post because it show how much jews want Republicans to "replace."
People don't care if it's repeal and replace or just repeal. Only welfare niggers and liberals do.
A straight repeal will energize the base beyond belief and guarantee a republican sweep of 2018 and 2020. They would finally deserve it.

>>134029837

It's also McConnell saying "Welp, tried my best. Now how about that tax reform?"

>>134035100
We have reached, peak trigger. Yankee nigger is upset his war crimes were spoken about so he brags about the rich men in NY using poor migrants to fight their war. Let me donate some more money to my favorite Civil War Organization, founded by a NY Times columnist, The National Rifle Association. If we lost the civil war, why do you hate the NRA now and yankee politicians are using state's rights as an argument? If we lost the civil war shouldn't the thought of state's rights have been abolished? If the CSA "lost" the war, as you say, state's rights shouldn't exist as a valid legal concept. I bet you're one of the, northern aggression was over niggers types.
>>134035099
Doesn't grok bandwidth from LEC. top kek.

>>134035831
yeah personally I'm glad that this healthcare thing is over
I mean Obama had a supermajority and it still took him like 18 months
the GOP should have just tried to pass a repeal, fail and then immediately moved on to taxes and other stuff

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>>134035658
This actually puts the "moderates" * 'Blue Dogs" in a corner.
They can't have it both ways anymore
They must choose wisely
Trump has them in front of a firing squad

>>134035100
But they won the peace.

>>134035716
Sorry. Voted for bernout and got stuck with Hillary. What was i supposed to do? Vote for Trump?

>>134029400
afasfa v wr wr wr wrewfqe

>>134035924
No you dumbass.The south lost the civil war because they were pussies and surrendered to the north. Doesn't mean jack shit about state's rights.

>>134035716
Oh wow, an ad hominem levied from yet another world nyancitizen...

>>134035995
i'd like to believe it. but this shit should be over 3 months ago. media has attacked trump so much his political capital isn't worth much so it's hard on him to push this too

>>134036367
Kill yourself

>>134034568
The problem is healthcare is not a product

If you have a broken left foot, you can't just put a cast on your hand, because it's cheaper
If you can't afford a large screen tv, you will buy a small screen tv
If you can't afford a surgery, you will die

fuck knows why they didn't outright repeal right away

>>134035631
>That won't happen until the Democrats are in power, however.

Fixed.

>>134029400

McConnell is a snake. This bill is probably designed only to be defeated.

He will probably make sure that this fails to pressure people opposed to their shitty "replacement" into having to vote for that, since they "tried it your way."

>>134036367
oh so not only are you SUPER FUCKING stupid but your a Cuck for voting for the person who got Bernie out
God liberals are so fucking pathetic

>>134033507
idk mkultra was pretty fishy after all

>>134036367
>Sorry. Voted for (((bernout)))...
wew lad

>>134036564
But you cucks are literally AIDS infected cancer.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/12/clinton-campaign-may-have-been-too-smart-to-win.html

>>134031479

fuck the illegal spics.

if they want gibs they can go HOME.

>>134034410
Agreed

>>134033629
>I have to pay almost 10,000 fucking dollars before the "health care" actually starts to be of any use.

you have the world's worst plan, or are lying through your teeth. Actually just paying the fine and for the costs out of pocket would be better than that.

Going to go with "lying through your teeth" option, actually. Of course you finish with a "POC boogeyman" argument when still the most poor niggers in this country are white people

b-but.... percentages! fuck off, dopey high school drop out

>>134036784

This is probably the Reince Priebus bill... Plan Z.

Full Repeal with 2 year delay... best possible bill for 2018 midterms.

- Democrats forced to run on defending Obamacare
- Obamacare languishes, dies a slow death.
- Most people lose their Obamacare healthcare before it even ends.
- options to extend Obamacare months at a time


Democrat response...
- blame GOP for losing Obamacare and run on extending it?
- run on single payer?
- totally dump on Obamacare but then have GOP challenger bring out... "Why didn't you vote for repeal."

It's the best political option for the Republicans.

>>134030223
>Pointing out the flaw in his example
No you weren't. It's a typical logical fallacy called reductioad absurdum.

>>134029854
Horses worked fine too for 5,000

>>134034332
>the only thing he actually cites his sources shows the health insurance market has been growing faster than the GDP rate of growth by a considerable margin

lol

>>134031124
He was talking about the R's losing the house, not the two year delay. So quick to talk shit you fuck up and look like an idiot yourself.

>>134036748
Why didn't they go monopoly busting when they had power during obama then? These monopolies have existed for decades.

>>134037399
>we want to run on 26 million people losing their coverage without subsidy money or medicaid

real genius, you know that? but please keep spamming the 56d mahjong of this idea

>>134029400
Kek the republican party is going to fucking hand the election in the foreseeable future. My family voted for Trump and are now totally defeated and don't give a fuck anymore.

>>134034568
>* By 2011, Americans were paying only 11 cents of every healthcare dollar directly-out-of-pocket.

is this supposed to be good, when it also includes Medicaid,Medicare and the large percentage of people with no or little coverage at all? Scam coverages like the shit McDonald's offered was pure snake oil, cheap but completely worthless for actually anything outside of a routine checkup

>>134037407
Reductio ad absurdum is a form of argument. If you would like to argue fallacies you could at least not commit the fallacy fallacy.
Faggot.

>>134031257
>I'm sorry, does your employer not offer health benefits that meet your needs? I hear there's other employers or a private market you can use. I think the reality is, you don't know what you're talking about.
DUDE LIKE JUST GET ANOTHER JOB STUPID

>>134029721
Yes all health care laws were already repealed. I already opened up a coat-hanger abortion clinic in a black neighborhood.

>>134037955
>Trump and Republicans runs on repealing OBAMACARE
>Trump and Republicans are elected and are setting up to vote repeal of OBAMACARE
>Family voted for Trump and Republicans "totally defeated" for Trump and Republicans doing what they said they will do
I take it you have not come out to your family? You can't hide in the closet forever.

They're literally just going to use the 2015 bill that everyone already voted on, aren't they? Republicans who switch their vote from yes to no will have no cover, they're either with us or against us.

>>134030267
Based anon

>>134036657
your post is so full of bullshit it's tough to choose where to start, but this I like the most:
>If you can't afford a large screen tv, you will buy a small screen tv
no, you'll put it on your jew financed credit card

>>134038056
You're right, I'm dumb.

>>134030830
My dad is retired and on medicaid until he hits 65 next year. He has a $10,000 deductible before insurance covers anything. Had to spend two nights in the hospital with a heart problem and he'll be paying off that bill for probably 3 years. He doesn't want to seek medical care anymore because it costs so fucking much now

>>134029400
YES

>repeals obamacare
>left wing retards riot
>martial law is declared
>leftists apprehended and shipped off to concentration style camps where they are "processed"

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>>134029920
literally not an argument.

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>>134029400

>>134039206
Do you know what literally and argument mean newfag?

>>134037151
Again, who was i supposed to vote for? Apart from anti trade deals, Bernie and Trump have nothing in common

all arguments aside: how awesome will it be to know that obama's legacy is about to be entirely erased (save the iranian deal)

>>134039664
a repeal (even if it's a two year delayed thing) will be so massively popular it will unlock a whole new power level.
Trump wants this and taxes done before he moves onto iran and trade deals

>>134029906
Bullshit.

>>134031037
literally everyone thinks so retard

>>134039664
he passed an 800 billion dollar stimulus, gays serve in the military and he has 2 SC judges on the court. Oh and people now know they can all get coverage and the country won't go bankrupt from it either

he's a more impactful president than any since Nixon

>>134039010
how's the 8th grade treatin you? not well I assume

>>134032106
underrated

Anyone who thinks this is anything but McConnell clearing the deck is an idiot or a shill.
>Conservatives don't have the votes
>Moderate Republican senators not up for re-election in 2018 will team up with dems
>This vote will go down 80-20 against
>Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Sen Hill will be revealed to be the irrelevant leaders of a faction of the republican party that doesn't even have 15 votes in it.
>We'll get a public option in a "grand compromise" between Schumer and Republican leadership.
>Trumpbots and conservative faggots will wonder what happened
>Trump will swing left as he realizes that the right is too impotent to win even when they have house and senate majorities

>>134030830
>premiums tripling
they did that anyways
>thrown off coverage
now instead they throw out doctors and hospitals
>uninsured rate skyrocketing
stopped by forcing people to buy insurance they don't want, how helpful

R-E-T-A-R-D

>>134029400
I'm angry.
I've had enough of these people.
They're a bunch of Christian murdering scum that run giant
death factories, keeping babies alive and selling their body parts.
What more do you need to know about these people?
I go out and face these scum.
They literally crawl from under rocks.
They have green-looking skin, and the run around screaming;
"we love Satan, we want to eat babies." I have them on video.
Hillary's into creepy, weird, sick stuff, man.
She sleeps in the same room with that creepy weirdo woman
whose mother wears a hood over her head, what the hell.
That woman, number one is ugly. Imagine how bad she smells, man.
I'm told her an Obama just stink.
Obama and Hillary both smell like Sulfur.
Literal vampire potbelly goblins are hobbling around, coming after us.
My spirit gets close to that evil and I feel it go....
Ahhhhhh! Ahhhhhh! Ahhhhhh!
We're such self-centered crap, we don't even notice hell itself rising up against us.
Millions are pouring in people, of the very worst type and I'm so pissed.
We're gonna stab your daughter at the mall.
Ahhhhhh! Ahhhhhh! Ahhhhhh!
We're gonna stab your wife your son.
Oooooooooooooooooooooo!
We're gonna stab you with a butcher knife and then the Police Chief is gonna say,
We love our Somalis, we love our Muslims, oh, they're so good, oh, they're so sweet.

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Say it with me..
SINGLE
PAYER

Trump could become the new FDR for the white working class if he lobbied for it now that the GOP have squandered their political capital and his time.

>>134041116
> uses a nazi flag
> posts a kike
what doesn't fit here?

>>134038879
this is not how medicaid works, there is not a medicaid plan that has that high a deductible unless you're in a bullshit state like Indiana, which made its medicaid service as shitty and serving for the insurance industry as possible. in that case I can't say with 100% certainty a deductible that high doesn't exist

even in the worst medicaid scenario, your dad went from having to pay for 50k in bills to 10k in bills without having paid a dime for insurance. he would never been able to retire without it

>>134039010
Lately I've been thinking about it.
The sheer fact of people feel safe and comfortable going out and "protesting" and rioting is a proof that we had it too good and little dicipline would be great.
Like imagine if you got fuckin beating badly everytime you shout in public or destroy public or private property.
I wish we could install fear in everyones heart.

>>134041116

more benefits to niggers and hispanics will hasten america's fall

>>134041035
>>134041035
premiums rates did not triple since ACA was passed.

>b-but ma anecdotal evidence tho

more people get coverage now than they have since the Korean War

>b-but ma no being to get healthcare

26 million people got healthcare through medicaid and subsidies, not through force

>b-but ma mandate

sorry, stupid red state idiot, facts are facts. try reading something other than pol for once

>>134040889
>>134037399
>>134034958

I DON'T KNOW who TO BELIEVE

>>134029400
LMAO all the shills angry about the repeal. We have states who can have any health care plan they want you fucking morons.

Also, hit a treadmill you disgusting fatasses and put down the fries maybe you wouldn't be so fucking unhealthy.

>>134033266
Is (((Politifag))) a good enough source for you, libshit?

https://archive.is/dqVmp

>>134041819
it's all just talk anyways. if republicans couldn't come up with something in 6years i doubt they'll come up with something in 2

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>>134029400
holy fuck, 6 fucking years they talked about repealing and replacing health care and when they get the change it turns out they literally had no plans to actually repeal and replace

they were literally just shitposting on the taxpayers dime

>>134041602
>premiums rates did not triple since ACA was passed.

no shit, for boomers they may have even went down.

meanwhile, they skyrocketed for millenials. mine didn't go up 3x, it went up 5x.

>>134029400
That has always been the plan. Repeal Obamacare; no replacement. It's essentially making Obongo's tenure as if it never happened, short of purging the nigger and his accomplishments from the history books.

>>134041116
The white working class doesn't want to pay for niggers and spics. everyone knows whitey would be footing the bill

>>134032707
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFl0K0DxZFU

>>134042601
from what to what?

and prove it.

McConnell is a turtle fuck rat bastard.

>>134042601
you must have had shitty McCoverage then... plus most millennials got covered by the parent's plan

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WHY IS EVERYONE PRETENDING LIKE AMERICA DIDNT EXIST BEFORE OBAMA GOT ELECTED


WE NEED A CULLING OF THE USELESS


THE WELFARE NIGGERS AND SPICS WILL WORK OR DIE


BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

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>>134042609
and fucking over all their voters in the process after lying about having something ready to replace it for 6 yeas?
cease this niggerish rationalizing, this is a last ditch effort to cover their asses from a complete loss

>>134041819
Parts of each are true.

The GOP represent some of the poorest states in the union who will see backlash comparable to 2010 when coverage losses and premiums spike via the bill's insurance deregulation/medicaid cuts. This Repeal-Only Bill:
#1 Doesn't fit Budget Reconciliation: It needs the full 60 votes to pass filibuster unlike the BCRA
#2 Allows the GOP to show the base the dead corpse of repeal and say "Hey we tried *Shrug*" without actually gambling on it going to Trump's desk.

So they don't face extraordinary political fallout which would ensue on the majority party during midterms.
It also gives them an issue to keep litigating among the more diehard activists into future election cycles. It then puts the ball back in the Democrats' wheelhouse to band-aid the outstanding problems with the ACA under the guise of "Bi-partisanship" without having only their fingers on the inevitable fixes.

>>134042877

$69 to $355

>>134042932
Wipe the cheeto grease off ya face cletus

>>134042609
ah the thuggish certainty of a coward hiding on an Anon message board... always my favorite part of 4chan.

8 years, Gaddafi getting beheaded, Bin Laden dead, gays serving in the military, 2 Supreme Court nominations and the expectation of HC for all. Sorry faggot, it happened. The Republican response was to elect a failed gameshow host who had his kids kick him off the AC board because of how shitty his decision making skills were

>>134042814
obamacare != social security && medicare
sucking too many dicks has addled your brains grandpa

>>134042921

> plus most millennials got covered by the parent's plan

right, they did that so they wouldn't riot.

by the time they got older they would've always just assumed health insurance was that expensive and that "of course the government needed to solve it, health care is expensive!"

i was in the sliver of population that got to see the before and after. born in '89.

>>134043134
You're so fucking retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SKXQeD_nOs

>>134043210
what was your coverage in 2011 before Obamacare?

>>134043070
That sounds like bullshit. Prove it.

>>134042921
>plus most millennials got covered by the parent's plan

And how did people think that sheltering the healthiest demographic from the market would sync well with ACA's insurance pool?

>>134042455
I'm going to smack the taste out of your mouth.

That study was garbage

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/mar/10/george-will/will-says-95-percent-people-health-insurance-are-s/

>>134043451

about a 2k deductible for everything. better than now. even if the deductible were higher, i'd still prefer the old plan because i don't even have insurance as I can't afford the $355.

>>134043514

what do you want me to prove and what is an acceptable form of proof for your majesty?

>>134043587
young people weren't paying into the pool to begin with. they were either on college plans, had already been covered by their parents favorable plan or had no coverage at all

>>134043608
You don't seem to understand what Obamacare was meant to do.

Back then prices were just starting to balloon, due to the fact that people were using hospitals as primary care providers, and other factors but that was the main cause of it. It created a giant feedback loop that was making health insurance and healthcare costs go through the roof.

Since I didn't have coverage then I had to go to the hospital for things like infections, for example. In 3 visits I racked up $10,000 of bills just for minor things, 1 for infection, 1 for a bad migraine, 1 for an animal bite.

>>134029920

> Feudalism worked fine for thousands,

Fuedalism didnt exist for thousands of years. It didnt exist much of anywhere really.

>>134043804
You can start by telling the truth

>>134043692
you can't afford 4,300 a year? Are you sure you don't qualify for a subsidy or even Medicaid?

btw, low premiums, low deductibles, young buyer=you had shit coverage. Sorry dude, that shit was not going to cover you in a pinch. insurers were stealing young people's money left and right back then, most young people only ever used it for checkups and medication for when they got infections or whatever minor shit. Never need the insurance but still have to pay it, complete shit

>>134043894

>In 3 visits I racked up $10,000 of bills just for minor things, 1 for infection, 1 for a bad migraine, 1 for an animal bite

What's changed? Even with the new plans, your deductible limit would barely even be breached in those cases, and now you'd have to pay even more due to the increased monthly costs.

>>134043932

Thousands of people, not years. Don't worry about the other hundreds of thousands of people. They don't matter.

>>134044017

thanks for being specific. funny to see you back down when your aggrotard bluff is called.

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Americans, how does it feel having to pay for the world-class healthcare of illegal immigrants and criminal niggers?

You pay sky-high health insurance premiums so they can get their medication, their medical procedures and their doctors visits.

I find it really funny. You can't really win. Australia can have universal healthcare because we are mostly homogeneous, but I honestly can't imagine how it would feel working hard every day and paying ever increasing premiums just so Juan, Lopes, DeMarcus and Shaniqua can get their condishunz treated despite never paying into the system.

Good, when prices go down the next year in a half rep will win easy in the midterms.

Rep better hurry on this.

>>134044163
I pay nothing. Thanks Obama.

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>>134044251
>amber heard will never blow cum bubbles with your man gravy
why even live?

>>134044345

That's called medicaid, though.

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Very soon, every one of you will kiss this fine ass and embrace Trumps mc nuggies, when your Medicaid vanishes and you spend 200 dollars of every 500 dollar Mc Donalds check on healthcare. lol

>>134041116
Fuck off I don't want to pay poor whites or poor blacks health care.

>>134044503
you race traitor trash

>>134044491
I find it truly amazing how many people who talk about Obamacare do not know a single damn thing about it.

The whole reason why Republicans can't repeal it is because of Medicaid, nothing else.

You people are missing the genius of this.
They're giving shittier and shittier options so they can turn around and push what they want through because they've shown everyone the alternatives, and the alternatives suck.

>>134041855
Rs are, on average, more obese than Ds.

But anyway, it is dun watching another Trump legislative failure. Doesn't want to burn us out on winning I guess.

>>134044601

That's pretty awesome that you've read the entire ACA bill. Congratulations man. Was that a prerequisite to getting welfare?

>>134044497
cool thanks, enjoy the rest of your summer vacations kiddo. hopefully the black football player won't pick on you next year

>>134035210
she was too smart to win ;)

>>134044793
Maybe you should read it instead of being a useful idiot

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>>134045020

Should have just waited it out till after 2018 so the left couldn't run on this. If the right had gained just one more state for control, constitutional amendments could finally be passed again. Likely not even a possibility now if Democrats can just scream, "Look! They are letting everyone die!" during the 2018 election.

>>134041602
>not through force
Wrong

>>134044601
:O Universal healthcare doesnt work then? And it will never work since old people dont die anymore.

>>134045250
It just proves how incompetent the Republican party and Trump is.

They do not know how to govern one bit.

If they started with infrastructure, Trump would grow his base and they would have bipartisan support and it would have been a huge win.

Instead the retards start on an issue that Republicans have never ever agreed on.

>>134030014
When will we create a world government?

>>134045250
>>134045407
He literally ran on "I will repeal and replace Obamacare". Nobody cares about leftists screaming about dying niggers in their already blue cities.

>>134034523
you joking? I can't even fucking use it anyway faggot

>>134045834
>and replace

This was never part of narrative until recently.

>>134045430
Hmm not looking so good. Israel is losing ground not gaining.

>>134045407
There's that leddit doublespacing again.

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>>134032887
>>134033275
>>134032473

>Terrorists get a chance to embarrass the US government by releasing a new video proving osama is alive after the US said they killed him

>they don't take it

lol suuuuure

Do you seriously think that osama wouldn't jump at the chance to completely decimate all credibility of the US government with the simple act of releasing a new video proving he was alive?

>>134029854
>>134029913
>worked fine
Seriously, you people are retarded. America has the most expensive healthcare in the Western world and the world healthcare. Longevity is going backward in the US. Do you realize how fucking stupid this is????

>>134045834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SKXQeD_nOs

Repeal and replace with something much better, not touching social security or medicaid.

That's what he ran on and that's what got him a lot of votes.

If he started with healthcare and got Republicans to go along with a left leaning infrastructure plan, how would Democrats be opposing him now like they are? Then he could say he got it done and the Republicans would have some credibility.

He gave them ammo, and he still continues to do so. He doesn't talk about his plans in his tweets, he only shit posts. The incompetence is absolutely astounding.

>>134045876
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/donald-trump-promises-repeal-replace-obamacare-44896284

His exact words during the campaign in multiple speeches. Like most shitposters/lefties, you haven't been paying attention.

>>134045973
not that guy but who gives a shit, you autist

>>134045987
>the world healthcare
typo correction: worst healthcare

What are you doing Republicans

>>134046088
Nobody wants a left leaning infrastructure reddit, certainly not those who voted for him. As for opposing him, the opposite team ALWAYS opposes the opposite president. This is not new.

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>>134045987
>mexico has free state-run hospitals and clinics that cost NOTHING
>mexico has cheap healthcare
>mexico has cheap prescriptions, so much that burgers drive to mexico for their pills


>mfw a bunch of dumbass beaners figured it out before the almighty United States Of America

>>134046108
>"until recently"
>you haven't been paying attention

>>134045987
Longevity is a horrible measure of healthcare, niggers and spics choose to shoot each other and eat themselves to death. Leafs pour over the border so they don't die waiting for treatment. This shitty narrative is falling apart.

>>134046274
>Nobody wants a left leaning infrastructure
Do you see how many people use the "Nazi" flag here?

>>134046298
By the way, in Mexico if you don't like the service of the state-run clinics and hospitals, there are private hospitals that you can pay to go to as well. You get a CHOICE.

There is no bigger embarrassment in America right now than the fact that so many countries have figured this shit out and we're still sucking the cocks of the insurance companies

FOR SHAME, AMERICAN POLITICIANS

FOR SHAME, YOU ORANGE RETARD TRUMP

>>134046298
Yawn. Its so easy to make great inward policy if you are a country that isnt the USA. We have burdens that limit our capacity to care for our citizens but the trade off is we get a powerful currency and military. Yay!!

>>134046495
>We have burdens that limit our capacity to care for our citizens...

...Like the fact that our politicians' mouths have to be constantly wrapped around the cocks of big insurance and big pharmaceutical 24/7 with absolutely no rest all day long not a minute off

>>134046665
Oh and also that you idiots won't vote such cock suckers out of office and you even elect your meme idiot presidents that won't fix shit

>>134046490
There are private hospitals in America. You don't need to have insurance. Your complaint makes no sense.

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>>134046298
Well here is the problem. We have a fuckload of greedy selfish little boomer faggots who don't wanna help there own people. Second reason is niggers and other non-whites ruin the entire system for everyone, and the final reason is way to many people see WHITES as individuals as apposed to a group. This is changing though so we might see it eventually if our white nationalist continues to group but that's years off.

>>134046728
Please behave Trump is learning. Hes reaching out to the dems now to get stuff done. Partisanship gets you no where in fact it just makes us flip flop every 4-8 years. We need to work together for the betterment of america. ENOUGH WE NEED UNITY

>>134046758
Yeah but there isn't a choice

There isn't a state-run hospital choice that you can go to if you don't have money

If there WAS one, then hospitals would have to lower their prices or be priced out of business

At least you will have a choice, go to a free hospital where the care isn't the best or go to an expensive hospital (if you can afford it) and get the best care possible

>>134046088
> reddit spacing

>>134047003
>trump is learning
Oh shut the fuck up. I AM giving trump a chance and all I see is him looking out for himself and his rich cronies.

I'm giving him a chance and I do hope he looks out for anyone making under 100k a year

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>>134046490
Also don't fucking blame Trump for shit like this people in the US specifically people on the right and in the center don't fucking want to pay for other peoples shit because they don't believe in a group. If the US was 100% white had really good defense against non-whites and immigrants abusing the system and whites see themselves as groups and not just individuals trump could have done that sort of system easily.

>>134047206
Heh this is how europe loses its socialism and gangs grow out the woodwork.
>OI VEY

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>>134029400
WHOOO DEMOCRATS WIN AGAIN!

>>134029854
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_debt#United_States

>>134047616
I had to have my gallbladder removed and I was working my shitty retail job never gave me any papers to sign up for medical insurance and even then I wouldn't have been able to fully pay it still with the wages I was making at the time. People really have no fucking idea how shit can fuck you over.

>>134047905
They do, they just don't fucking care until it affects them.

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>>134047206
>americans are petty
>somehow, it's immigrants and non-whiteys fault

>>134048114
It is you fucking retard thats why Europes system is falling apart you faggot.

>>134044583
Yea I don't care for white trash? Hispanic trash or nigger trash.

You can fuck off with your welfare. We did welfare for whites and it ends badly.

>>134048183
>We did welfare for whites and it ends badly.
where exactly?

>>134048162
>Europe falling apart

Que?

>>134031037
I remember when I was 17 and just started paying attention to politics too!