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Republicans just Republican't govern. Right-wingers BTFO forever!!

PRESIDENT OBAMA WILL GO DOWN AS ONE OF THE BEST PRESIDENTS IN HISTORY WITH HIS LANDMARK HEALTH CARE LAW STANDING FOR 1,000 YEARS
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REPUBLICANS BTFO
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B
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President Cheeto
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>>134017916
>Right-wingers BTFO forever!
LIberal faggot, Republicans WANT Obamacare to stay in place until the 2018 elections because everyone hates it and what they are seeing is your Democrat congress members blocking its removal over and over.

This is going to cost you that election. The strategy is working perfectly and you're all too stupid to see it. Obamacare will cost you most of your congress seats in the 2018 election.

Laugh all you want to. I'll be laughing in 2018.

SAGE
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You forgot the punch line, but hilarious effort.
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>>134019309

>"THIS IS ALL PART OF THE PLAN, IF WE JUST KEEP FAILING AT EVERYTHING THEY'LL SURELY VOTE FOR US AGAIN"
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>>134017916
I can see it now
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>>134020599

Check dem dubblies
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>>134020599
you now remember this guy
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>>134019309
>LE 17D CHESS BASED MAGAPEDES
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>>134021022

Doobles
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>>134017916
>the republican bills are awful
>the democrat's law is a hideous kluge

we all lose either way
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>>134019309

Dude, Obamacare wasn't invented to succeed without a Single Payer/Public Option. That's going to be the Democrats rally point. Obamacare hasn't been around so long that people are like "MAN, IT WAS SO MUCH BETTER WHEN WE WERE GETTING HARD FUCKED WITH NO RELIEF."

The Democrats will offer a Public Option as a means to combat rising premiums, they'll offer cost controls to fight the rich people that treat prescription drug patents like annuities. Republicans will fuck this up and argue that life was so much better when we were bankrupting the sick with no relief for regular Tax-paying Americans and senior citizens specifically.

You're fucking up right now in front of our very eyes. You've got a year to come up with something better than hopes and dreams.
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> muh Gog emperor
What a useless faggot trump is
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>>134019309
> Republicans never wanted to repeal obamacare
Look at him and laugh
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>>134019309
Hahaha the democrats didn't block shit. The Republican party refused to even put it to a vote in the senate.
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>>134024485
Thats the best part.
Trump is so shitty of a leader he cant pass shit
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>>134024536
He can't even get a bill out of committee. 7 years to come up with a replacement and they got nothing.
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>>134017916
SAY IT WITH ME BOYS:

CANT STOP pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
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>>134022436
There's no way to pay for single payer in the United States unless you want to start nationalizing big pharma which I wouldn't be opposed to because they deserve it. That said it's considerably more likely that Jesus Christ will come back and just start healing people for free.
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>>134024629
They had no plans ready to fo and the divode in their party is so steep the moderates will work with the dems
This means that the democratic party, a minority, will pass more legislation than Trump and the republicans who control everything.
Trump is a moron.
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>>134017916
They can't even pass single payer in the People's Republic of California. Healthcare is so broken in this country - what we had before Obamacare was shit but it was a thousand times superior to all these retarded commie ideas
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So we have:

1) Not enough votes to pass the bill right now
2) Not enough time to create a new bill prior to funky budget process allowing passage with 51 votes (given it needs a whole new CBO score)
3) No Obamacare repeal this year
Seems pretty devastating for the GOP. They won't really have another chance until way closer to 2018 midterms, and I can't imagine it being an easier proposition then, especially if the Trump administration continues down this historically unpopular and ineffective path.

Well damn.
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>>134019309
>this much damage control

You nogs threw a damn party when this passed the house. You have delayed the senate recess to get this shit in. If you really thought it was all part of the plan you are the fucking cucked.
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>>134019309
>because everyone hates it

This is the most retarded thing I've read today.

Most people don't actually hate the Affordable Care Act because for most people it's allowed them to get health insurance when previously they couldn't.
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>>134025235
Trunpism is a cult and the last thing a cult can do is admit their leader is flaming buffoon.
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>>134017916

Good. The repeal of this was a fucking retarded idea from the start. Its like saying the boat you are on sucks, so lets just sink it.
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>>134025279
Everyone's premiums are going up. The only people who aren't against it are the leeches getting government subsidies.
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>>134017916

Seeing as how it did nothing to lower the cost of health care and increase competition in the market I actually am going to drink with you to the death of this awful bill.

I still hate you though </3
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>>134025419
Then maybe the repubs shouldnt have chosen to bitch about it for 8 years then fuck up when they had thr chance.
Remember that faggoty party Trump threw when it passed the house?
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>>134017916
If the republicans in Congress do not support the will of the people who elected them, then I'm fairly certain that means the people are not being properly represented. Been a while, but I'm sure there's something in the Constitution about that.
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>>134025419
Repealing it would have been a good move if the GOP could stop sucking corporate cock for ten fucking minutes and help the people who voted for them once in their entire careers. They've had years to come up with a better alternative which could have been as simple an attempt at deregulating to reduce costs and they didn't do shit.
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>>134025815
Collons, Portman and Heller ARE representing their voters. Their states took the medicaid expansion and dont want it cut. So looks lioe you are gonna have to give up on tjose medicaid cuts and tax cuts.
BTW we are nearing the end of the legislative year...Did Trump actually fail to pass one piece of legislation?
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>>134025831
>Repealing it would have been a good move if the GOP could stop sucking corporate cock for ten fucking minutes and help the people who voted for them once in their entire careers.

they are NEVER going to do this anon. You need to realize this, no matter how much you may hate democrats. Republicans are ALWAYS going to be corporate cucks, and if you are just a regular american, you need to be fucking smart and known when to support democrats and when not to. At least attempting to give americans accessible health care you should support them. Any and all SJW cuck shit, tell them to fuck off.
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>>134025640

;)
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>>134025508
Premiums are going up slower than if there was not obamacare. People seem to forget how shitty our healthcare was prior to the aca. Obamacare needs to be fixed but the gop plan was an abomination that even the gop shitcanned.
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>>134026073
>Did Trump actually fail to pass one piece of legislation?

No, Congress did. And 3/4th of them hate his guts and have been fighting him every step of the way. Frankly it's a miracle it even got to the floor.
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>>134017916
The problem is we have 2-3 "muh freedom" LARPers who say the new bill doesn't repeal enough, and 1-2 RINOs who say it repeals too much. All the others are on board with it. It's just a numbers game.

They don't realize that Obamacare needs to get neutered any way possible, and/or these few are just blocking it to cuck to their constituents so they can get re-elected. I personally think they should just pass what we've got, because I'm a nationalist, and erasing the globalist/cuck legacy in any measure possible while we can is worth it.

At least the RNC is individualistic and not a monolithic hivemind like the left is with their super-delegates and Clinton cult.
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>>134026228
Trump had zero input on the current gop bill.
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KICK MCCONNELL OUT

NOW
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>>134026240

The bill keeps the taxes in place you fuck. The Freedom caucus is fighting for your self interest.
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>>134017916

JUST REPEAL OBONGOCARE
FUCK POOR PEOPLE I WANT TO LOWER MY TAXES REEEE
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Trump has been pretty disappointing so far honestly
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>>134026107
Oh I know they're never going to do it, we're seeing first hand what happens when the GOP dog catches it's tail.

>and known when to support democrats
The answer to that is never. The GOP are a bunch of corporatist shits and they still manage to be better than the Dem's and their pinko idpol who are also corpratists shits. At this point the best move is to just accept that accelerationism is the right move and the sooner the GOP collapses the sooner it will be replaced by another conservative party that maybe will have a little more loyalty to their voters.
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>>134026478
Obongo care fucks middle-class people, who get their premiums raised so Tyrone can free get Oxycontin for his special brew.
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>>134026422
How is slashing medicaid to give billionaires a tax cut in my interest?
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>>134026183
Everyone fucking hates it dude. Just accept it. It's destroying the middle class and is the reason why the republicans, at least in name only, have a majority of all branches of government. Obamacare was supposed to lower premiums and "not going up as fast as before" is the saddest admission of failure there is.
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>>134026619
lol Yet facts show most opiod abuse is among white trash like you.
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>>134019309
69D chess am i right ?

you can t admit TRUMP is a fraud , he is not delivering what he promised , just like any other politician
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>>134026656
Well that's the problem. The GOP plan won't lower premiums. They have no plan that van lower premiums.
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>>134026631
>being too worthless to get a 401k or your own insurance plan
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>>134026183
Not only are premiums increasing just as fast as before Obamacare, but the plans are worse.

My premium went up by 22% just last year and the cunts raised my deductible from $1,000 to $5,000 . It's absurd.

>>134026734
>white trash like you

Seems Tyrone is triggered.
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>>134026804
I don't like the bill but the CBO did say it would lower premiums.
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>>134019309

>Democrat congress members blocking its removal over and over.

You're an idiot. If you were paying attention, you would know that it is the Republicans themselves that can't get their shit together. They have a majority in both the House and the Senate.
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>>134026734
I'm not white trash, I own capital worth over 7 million dollars. (5,000 acres of land, equipment, cattle, rent houses, irrigation systems, and now a sale barn).

If you hate white trash so much, then you should support Darwinism and let them die-off. Instead, you want to give them more free shekels just like the nigs and spics who are murdering-up your blue cities. You are the epitome of cucked.
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>>134026848
The ridiculous deductibles effectively make the plans worthless for anything but catastrophic coverage. Preventative care saves money and it's being denied to people who actually have jobs because they can't afford a doctor's visit out of pocket.
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>>134026954
If you get less coverage, add life time caps and higher deductible it will lower premiums. That's it though. You trade lower premiums for your health insurance not being truly functional.
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>>134017916
Hahahaha. Eat shit conservatards.
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>>134026804
The only plan that really would lower premiums is to kick the kikes out of medicine and stop treating diseased faggots, sluts, and shitskins who are a fucking black hole of health problems. Neither side in normie politics is ready to admit this truth yet.
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>>134017916

Trump should try and fix it rather than replace it
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>>134026183
>how shitty our healthcare was prior to the aca
Congratulations, you've penned the single dumbest comment this year.
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>>134025279
>>134024831
The unfortunate reality is that as soon as Obamacare was signed into law, it created an entitlement mentality regarding healthcare. Americans now look at it as something they are entitled to have, just like Social Security and Medicaid/Medicare. Once you give that to people, they aren't going to like anyone who tries to take it back. Anon's post about nationalizing big pharma is intriguing, but there's no fucking way that's going to happen because they're way too powerful and have pretty much every politician in their pockets.
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>>134027045
Confirmed for having sex with cousins and performing beastiality acts.
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>>134027271
Do you remember? Insurance had caps, if you burned through your 100k that's it, you read or in debt.
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>>134027089
It's already not functional, most people need to pay $5000 or more before they can get close to a doctor.
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>>134027066
Even after my deductible, they only pay 75% of my hospital bills. That's if I nearly die in a part of town that's serviced by a hospital in my approved network. Outside the network, they only pay 50%.

All for the low, low price of $375 a month.
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>>134017916
>have majority in all branches of government
>can't do what you screamed about doing for 7 years
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>>134024847

It's not all on Trump
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>>134027415
My wife pays 230 a month for a silver plan. She pays the 40 buck co pay for checkups. No subsidies.
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>>134027313
>dude inbred lmao
The only scientific evidence of major inbreeding comes from all the muzzies you leftist cucks love to import.

>bestiality
That's only legal in leftist countries like Canada and Germany.
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>>134027437
You picked a shitty plan. Or your state is fucking you.
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>>134027513
Yes, but what is her deductible?
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>>134027580
That was the cheapest plan my state had. I'm a healthy 27 year old male. Thanks Obama.
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>>134027307
They should be entitled to at least basic care as long as they aren't degenerates. The reason medicine is so expensive is because it's controlled by the Jews. Natsoc germany had no problem giving quality medical care to all of their citizens.
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>>134026482

It's what happens when you pander to the far right and "muh based Bannon" outside of immigration and social policies.
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>>134027598
2500. If she gets seriously ill that's not bad. Like I said. Office visits are only 40 bucks.
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>>134027307
Healthcare was already an entitlement mentality, but there is no way in hell single payer is happening. There's no possible way to pay for it and it simply wouldn't have the support.
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>>134027653
My state is much better. Your state must have shit leadership. Sucks for you.
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>>134027717
What do they pay after the deductible? 50% or 75%?
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>>134027717
>$2500 isn't bad

This is why you lost the election
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>>134027776
You're poor, so you get healthcare bux.
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>>134027119
Honestly, Malthus was right.

The world is going to have a massive overpopualtion soon, and the left and "classical liberals'" refusal of eugenics is going to create a huge population of retards that will consume everything to a point that we lose effective technological progression. The "no borders" faggots are going to accelerate this problem, since the 3rd-world is going to have a massive population boom like never before. Africa is set to have a population of 10 billion by the end of the century, thanks to international gibs programs.

Basically, liberalism = death by niggerstorm.
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>>134027776
"Bbbut guys, it's not Obama's fault, it's, it's the state! Yeah that's it!"
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>>134027066
>Preventative care saves money and it's being denied to people who actually have jobs because they can't afford a doctor's visit out of pocket.
This is nothing but a misunderstanding about supply and demand. "Preventative care" is so expensive because of insurance. Doctors can charge more because insurance will pay more. If doctors were essentially cut off from receiving insurance disbursements, they would have to lower the cost of their service or close up shop.
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>>134027795
It's silver so 70 percent.
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>>134027869
Nope. Combined income 100k. No subsidies.
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>>134027657
Natsoc Germany also had way less people to cover in comparison with the modern day US. I share your sentiment regarding basic care though. For example, I wouldn't want a post-op transsexual getting free antibiotics and healthcare because their gender reassignment surgery they got in Guatemala gave them an infection.
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>>134027328
My insurance was phenomenal before that nigger fucked it up. I could go see any doctor or specialist no problem. Now, my deductible is sky high, there's only ONE insurance company in my state, and I can't see half the doctors because of network based plans.
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>>134027856
How so. Even good employer plans are 1k deductibles.

2500 and no lifetime caps, and no way they can drop you is pretty solid.
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>>134028123
I guess I'm paying a premium for all the shitskins and mentally ill people you idiots let into the insurance pool.
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>>134027657
>They should be entitled
Fucking kill yourself faggot
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>>134028236
You counting when you were on many and daddy's plan?
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>>134027719
Agreed and it isn't happening ever. I voted for Trump thinking that "draining the swamp" would include getting rid of the lobbyists who basically have a stranglehold on health and wellness in this country but so far I don't see any of that translating into weakening big pharma.
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>>134027307
We'll end up with single payer eventually and when people have to live with that reality they'll realize how stupid they were to trust the US government with their lives.

>>134027437
You could have gotten that plan before Obamacare for pennies on the dollar because it was being sold as catastrophic insurance for people who wanted nothing more than a guarantee against bankruptcy if they were critically injured. Now you're paying for everyone who is actually using their plan because they live an unhealthy lifestyle in one way or another and your catastrophic plan doesn't even do that. Obamacare was built on the assumption that 20 and 30 something healthy men would bare the cost of everyone else.

>>134027972
The problem is they can always leave the country for somewhere else that pays more which even with their notoriously low salaries for doctors essentially any country with socialized medicine will compared to everyone in the US paying cash. Now you're stuck with Doctor Pajeet Patel who got his degree from the University of Mumbai and only kinda speaks English because he'll work at the 50 bucks for an office visit rate.
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>>134017916
HI IM HERE FOR THE SALT MINING

KEEP TWISTING REALITY TRUMPTARDS
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>>134028296
You were paying for them anyways. Emergency room bills for the uninsured get passed on to the people that pay their premiums.
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>>134028399
Way to not even refute nor address my point.

GG
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>>134027856
Anon, $2,500 is way easier for people to pay for than the hundred thousand dollars in bills that would bankrupt them from a week+ hospital visit and surgery.

That's the out of pocket maximum you will pay for the entire year.
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Obama Leaf Wins Again

Trump has the worst first 100 days in American history
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I absolutely 100% guarantee the only way to make healthcare affordable is to repeal the entirety of medicare, significantly scale back medicaid, make it illegal to sell insurance for preventative care, make it illegal for employers to provide plans, and repeal most regulations. Basically start from square one. Won't happen, so the future is basically Zimbabwe. $20000000000 deductibles. No one gets health care at all.
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>>134028399
>We'll end up with single payer eventually and when people have to live with that reality they'll realize how stupid they were to trust the US government with their lives.

I truly hope you're right.
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>>134017916
This.

Listen, hugbox redditors. Not everyone who disagrees with you is deep into psyops or a shill. Some people just disagree. For instance, me.

Rural white voter here. Voting for Trump was possibly the biggest mistake of my life. Probably the worst president we've had in the last 250 years. We must impeach him now and lock up his most fervent supporters. The travel ban is racist and the white house is literally full of islamophobic texts and art. Hate can only be defeated by destroying it from the top down.

On top of his blatant racism, now he is literally destroying the planet earth and ruining young and promising female entertainers' lives. What about our children? Do the right thing, fellow rural white voters. Call your senator or congressman and set things right.
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>>134028675
>the white house is literally full of islamophobic texts and art.

Obvious troll post but if that's true I couldn't be any happier.
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>>134028598
No fool, that's not the out of pocket maximum, that's just the deductible, and it's going to go up.
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>>134028576
Except I did? If doctors can flee the low prices being offered in the US then it doesn't help us to lower those prices unless we want lower quality of care. You're going to have a hard time lowering doctor earnings in the US below the rates offered in European countries with socialized medicine because they can just pack up and go there.
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Its ok, we will give them Kid Rock. Going to flush this toilet one way or the other. Complete BS though and conservatives can use that pissed off energy to complain or do something about it. Robert Richie memes people. Also Debbie Stabenow.
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wow its almost like electing a dumb old pig who's never maneuvered the levers of democratic government in his life and expecting him to know how to corral his party and put legislative victories under his belt was fucking retarded

who could have seen this coming ahead of time oh man it just flew out of nowhere
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Obamacare DEATH SPIRAL....

That limp wristed faggot's legacy is nothing more than failed heath care and faggot marriage.
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>>134017916
>have 7 years to come up with a better plan
>finally control both the House and the Senate
>can't even pass a bill
Can't wait until the Dems win back the House next year. Republicans are incompetent.
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>>134029064
It took the ACA 2 years to get passed even though congress was sucking O's dick retard. The fact that a light repeal made it this close this short into Trump's term is actually somewhat impressive.
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>>134017916
Great. My $1300 Obamacare payment is due for August.
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>>134017916

Obamacare is going to implode on its' own anyway. Insurers are pulling out of marketplaces, premiums are out of control. The Republican bill sucked, sure, but if it would have passed then everyone could have blamed the repubs for once the ACA fails.
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>>134029222
Having Obamacare still in place is the absolute worst thing that could happen to the dems. The republicans wanted repeal because of their constituents, but politically this long term kills the dems in 2018.
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>shit the bed
>flip the mattress
>shit the bed again
>leave it for 6 years
>stench now killing anything within a mile of it
>roommate finally sick of telling you to clean it attempts to clean it.
>sit on the sidelines telling him "good luck"
>Roommate getting shit on himself and losing his cool trying to clean up the cluster fuck
>bellows of laughter from the peanut gallery
>decided to fuck it all and throw the bed out
>"Dude that was my bed why did you throw it out!?"
>"Dude, you owe me a bed now!"
>"Dude!"

Any Democrat that think Obamacare sticking it out to the bitter end is anything but a bad thing for them is a fucking retard.
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Its ok. They will be receiving a Mr. Kid Rock into the senate. It has been willled by Kek lol
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>>134029143

Oh.. and allowing hordes of illegals right on in with open arms.

Way too many people are red-pilled on the democrat agenda for the left to win at anything fore a very, very long time.
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>>134017916
You know that they don't get only one shot at repealing it, didn't you?

Also, it will collapse without cash injections, which Trump has already said he might cut off.

Is this what libtards consider a victory now?
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>>134025020
>this historically unpopular

Yeah, according to (((MSM))) polls of cucked blue cities.

Labor unions weren't too fond of TPP, which was pushed by all the top Dems including Obama and Shillary, but the unions were pretty glad when Trump repealed it. He also stopped the flow of ISIS and MS-13, which is popular among people who aren't total cucks.

The majority of Trump's "failures" are two-scoops-tier sensationalism being shitposted by CNN and MSNBC to get those butthurt leftist ratings.
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>>134029538
If they don't get it done before reconciliation window is over it's dead until after 2018, and they have to hold onto congress. It's all but dead until after the election.
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>>134029266

>It took the ACA 2 years to get passes

>The House passed the Senate bill with a 219–212 vote on March 21, 2010, with 34 Democrats and all 178 Republicans voting against it. The next day, Republicans introduced legislation to repeal the bill. Obama signed ACA into law on March 23, 2010

>2 years to get passed

>The first inauguration of Barack Obama as the 44th President of the United States took place on Tuesday, January 20, 2009

>Tuesday, January 20, 2009

>March 23, 2010

>2 years

>retard

Hmmm...
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>>134029535
You forgot to mention that Dems have yet to put together a meaningful mission statement and purpose in mid-2017. 2018 midterms are going to be a cakewalk for the GOP at this rate, no matter how shitty Trump's performance is in office. If the economy is still strong next year and Dems haven't developed a compelling reason to vote for them, nothing will change during midterms except for MAYBE a few Dems pickup up a couple of seats in the house.
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>>134029425
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>>134028217
Antibiotics are like pennies to manufacture anon. Try shopping for drugs from online pharmacies in india to see the actual price of things
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>>134029765
Actually no.

People are going to be angry that the bill didn't get passed. Look at CNN and MSNBC's viewership in past few months, it's skyrocketed. His rating are plummeting every single day, and tomorrow they will plummet even more due to this. He can't get anything done. His party hates him more than the Democrats do because they don't take him seriously.

The Democrats will now push for single payer healthcare with Warren and will take back the house/senate come 2018. Maybe not a landslide, but they will do it. Warren has an amazing advantage over Trump come 2020. His son could go to prison, he might get impeached etc.
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>>134030160
I realize that, but my issue isn't with the cost at all. I take issue with the notion that the government should pay for ANYTHING healthcare-related stemming from someone's personal choice to have their dick chopped off/penis molded on.
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>>134029765

Correct. I wish Trump would just cut off all welfare to make social security sustainable. We'd get a chimpout of a lifetime and get to exterminate all the lechers.
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Why are there so many triggered Drumpfies? Why can't you all just accept that Obamacare was the greatest thing this country has done in the last 30 years? You can all afford health insurance now!
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>>134030349
It's easy to criticize. MSNBC had huge viewership ratings with Olberman during the Bush years. Fox is the same thing with Obama. It doesn't mean shit.
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>>134030489

*kill welfare/entitlements/EBT.. all except social security.
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>>134030595

BECAUSE MY INSURANCE THAT I ALREADY HAD NOW COSTS MORE THAN DOUBLE AND COVERS LESS SHIT.

OBONGOCARE IS AN UTTER AND COMPLETE FAILURE
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>>134030349
>>134030489
If by "people" you mean conservatives then yea, it won't be celebrated and will be viewed as a failure. Single payer is a pipedream though and if Dems are stupid enough to run on this then good for conservatives. As for welfare, you don't even need to cut ALL of it, just DEM PROGRAMS that are fucking useless and aren't producing any results for society.
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>>134025279
Hey, remember how DEMOCRATS GOT COMPLETELY DESTROYED IN NOVEMBER?
Remember that?
What do you think was the cause of that?
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>>134031608
People getting tired of SJWs, BLM, tranny/gay agenda (they gave Caitlyn Jenner fucking awards for being mentally ill) and retarded football nogs not standing for the national anthem?
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>>134030349
>implying they can dig out of this hole anytime soon.
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>>134020599
>>134021022
>REEEE
What's happening?!?
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>>134018160

Not really. Any GOP healthcare bill is terrible because because of Ryan and the other Repubicucks. This way Trump can say he tried and Obamacare will continue to implode. Even if GOP loses their majority Trumpers dont give as shit since they're all treasonous losers anyway.
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>>134025279
Wrong.
"For most people" it's caused health insurance to become more expensive.
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>>134026183
>Premiums are going up slower than if there was not obamacare.
Got a source for that hot claim, democrat?
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>>134020599
>>134021022
>>134032155
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It's still getting repealed, retards.
Pathetic Dem shills BTFO once again.
Do you morons ever get tired of losing? j/w
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>>134034402

It ain't goin anywhere Republicunt. Keep fantasizing with Trump's cheeto dick down yo throat white boi
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