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I see the Sonnenrad thrown around a lot bot nobody seems to understand what it means.
There's not a lot out there on this symbol that isnt exaggerated neo-nazi crap or jewish propaganda.
Wikipedia and other sites say it originated from Himmler's SS office but thats not true. Its a very old germanic/norse symbol.
The number 12 is significant (12 hours on a sun dial, 12 months in a year, 12 knights of the round table, 12 heads of the SS, 12 zodiac signs), thus I interpret the outer arms, made up of 12 inverted Sig (victory) runes, to represent everything in the physical world, the inner representing the metaphysical or spiritual. The inverted runes imply the wheel is moving counter-clockwise. Its counterclockwise movement denotes it is not evil, and a "moving backward" or more appropriately a "return".
Stressing return to the central ring which represents the sun (a sun in reverse would be a black sun, so I assume thats where that term came from).
Its calling all to return to the sun and be "reborn" (since the sun god Sunna represents a new day and a start to a new cycle), a return to the old ways of the past (specifically the old religion, the old values of hierarchy and authority that are universal).
I see why Himmler liked this symbol so much because it symbolises a rejection of all things non traditional and a return to tradition.
It represents the center of the metaphysical universe.

"By returning to the past you will begin anew"

Hail Sunne!

https://youtu.be/WQ03s5EFwIs
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Last bump
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>>134005238
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>>134005238
I haven't seen anyone point this out: SS supposedly stood for Schutzstaffel. But it could just as well stand for schwarze Sonne.
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>>134009869
Nice catch
They also use stylised Sig runes for the SS symbol
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>>134005238
I've been wondering the same thing. Wikipedia says the neo nazis had talked about the black sun since the 50s, but it wasn't linked to this symbol until the 1990s. Very curious what this is supposed to mean. Do these people have some actual meta physical believes or is it just childish LARP bullshit as usual? Something about this thing seems just seems off.
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>>134005238
>Wikipedia and other sites say it originated from Himmler's SS office but thats not true. Its a very old germanic/norse symbol.
This version did. I was hardly used at all but no LARPers have taken it up as their symbol
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>>134010730
No it didnt
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>>134011725
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>>134005238

i lik it cus it luks pritty
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>>134011987
It is
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>>134012218
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>>134005238
>thus I interpret
Stopped reading.
You start by offering to educate us, then you start interpreting shit and giving opinions.
Fucking retard.
You're probably a public school teacher.
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crypto Christian symbol for Christ the unchanging, the truth.
can be interpreted as Gaia or Sophia or any mother earth character in history that brings life to our physical plane of existence.
incredible esoteric power as we will find out next month with the eclipse coming over the US.
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>>134010714
The symbol was introduced into popular culture through the book,
>The Spear of Destiny: The Occult Power Behind the Spear which pierced the side of Christ Paperback – June 1, 1982
Decent book by a lost antiquities investigator working for the US Army in post war Germany.
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>>134012959
>christian symbol

Lol no
Stop appropriating culture and claiming it as your own faggot
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>>134012573
k
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>>134014167
Your interpretation is a complete non sequitur. You're going to have to back that up with something.
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>see: vril society & natsoc contacts with et's, nazi flying saucers etc.
Who here really thinks the nazis escaped to hollow earth via Antarctica and will return to save humanity? Fucking about all the hope we got at this point...
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>>134015257
If you read the post there is fuck all information out there
Like all runes they are supposed to be interpreted
This is as specific as you'll find online:
http://www.ancient-symbols.com/symbols-directory/sun-wheel.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20061029185856/http://altreligion.about.com:80/library/glossary/symbols/bldefsblacksun.htm

I'm making sense of the symbol by taking meaning from sun wheels in eastern religion / the meaning of hermetic alchemical symbols
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>>134015257
Also the fact that Himmler said the symbol represented the "center of the world for the SS ideology" backs up my point
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>>134013905
>Stop appropriating culture and claiming it as your own faggot
you don't seem to know what you're talking about so i'll try to spell it out for you.
religion, for the last thousands of years has been the same events experience from different perspectives.
Osiris, Wotan and Christ, being the obvious examples, sacrificing themselves for humanity. There are many other stories that are similar but with different names and updates for cultural relevance.
The Bible is the last written document of these stories that has not been completely subverted by bastard blooded brown people. Hinduism, Buddhism were stolen over countless generations of miscegenation.
you seem to need to keep yourself busy so here's some homework for you.
Aryan Esoterica by Sven Longshanks of Radio Aryan
Ep 1: https://archive.org/details/AE010517
Ep 2: https://archive.org/details/AE011217
Ep 3: https://archive.org/details/AE011917
Ep 4: https://archive.org/details/AE012617
Ep 5: https://archive.org/details/AE020217
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oh look, another symbol for retarded nazi larpers jerk to.
>muh heritage (I-IT WAS THE JEWS!!! H-HAIL EUROPA, even though he's a NEET loser)
>muh traditions (wants a virgin gf because he is insecure for also being a virgin)
>muh white genocide (0 children on his own because women avoid him)
pathetic.
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>>134016547
>brazil
>anything relevant to say
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the sun behind the sun, it represents uncreated spiritual light as opposed to manifest physical light. The sun at midnight as opposed to the sun at midday. Our physical sun is a reflection of the black sun, the same way that Christ is a physical reflection of God. Also more generally repersents the nigredo stage of the alchemical process. This is according to some alchemical stuff I've seen, not sure if it correlates with this particular black sun.
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I applaud the effort OP made here in any case. I'm just hesitant to accidentally use an enemy's symbol should this whole thing be a subversive ploy.
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>>134016352
>himmler was a crypto christian

Yes you seem so intelligent I should listen to you
Here's some homework for you, Crusader boy
https://www.amazon.com/Black-Sun-Esoteric-Politics-Identity/dp/0814731554
https://third-reich-books.com/product/ss-culture-volume-seven-christianity/
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>>134016352

Wotan/Odin didn't sacrifice himself for humanity. He sacrificed himself to obtain knowledge of the Mysteries (runes). You calling it a "crypto christian symbol" is nothing but pure fantasy.
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>>134016984
>enemy symbol
>literally inlaid in the SS generals meeting room by Heinrich Himmler
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>>134016694
nice argument there retard.
you must be one of those americans who think there will be a race war. boy you'll be disappointed.
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>>134017109
Fucking this
Slave morality cuckstians trying to pretend they invented everything again
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>>134017145
>he doesn't know that (perhaps?) the black sun = Saturn
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>>134017299
>???
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>>134017353
That's the gnostic understanding of the issue. The reverse sun or black sun represents Saturn, which is also the Demiurge.
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>>134017637
Saturn is the god of agriculture, wealth, prosperity, and time
Essentially yhwh
Christmas is just Saturnalia
What you're saying makes no sense, if it was a symbol of Saturn (which it isn't, its a symbol of Sunne/Sonne, the centre of the Sonnenrad was painted gold in the SS office which is the element of the sun) it wouldn't be evil
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>>134017637
I can understand the time interpretation cos "sun dial" but nah
Too tinfoil to make a proper connection
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>>134017637
>gnostic

aren't gnostics essentially whites LARPing as kabbalistic jews?
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>>134006369
>>134007433
how new are you faggot? you cannot bump your own threads retard
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>>134018486
>he cant read ids
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>>134010714
Landig's and friends publishing stayed limited to the Vienna Circle and all those de-nazification publishing laws... Until they realized they could make a fortune selling those same esoteric UFO infused tracts in Canada and the US. Two countries with a growing new age movement.
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>>134018420
No idea. I'm a complete novice to this issue simply because in all the time I've browsed /pol/ I haven't been lucky enough to see a thread like this. The few bits and pieces I've picked up have been from Gnostic threads.
I looked up the Black Sun's symbolism several months ago, but like OP couldn't find much of substance.
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>>134018550
you still bumped this thread twice with no commentary. Do you think we're stupid enough to not recognize that the second ID is also you on a proxy you fucking mongoloid, please become an hero
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Theres actually a lot of sun symbolism in Nazism
Even the flag and the swastika
The swastika is a symbol of the sun, implying a new dawn
The German flag was a swastika inside a white circle over a red background, kind of like the colors of a sunrise

>>134018719
>this damage control
Kek
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>>134018947
dude it's painfully obvious that you are OP who created the thread, are you literally a retard?
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>>134019102
No shit I am you literal fucking dumb cunt
Is your IQ in the single digits?
Holy fucking kek
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>>134019205
hurr durr attempting to get around the rules and then admitting it, whose the retard again
also take this shit to /x faggot
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>>134005238
Hail Sunne, see you on the high ground.
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>>134019314
I never said I wasnt OP you fucking spastic
You said "you cant bump your own thread" when clearly I can because its a different IP
Life as a mongoloid must be challenging

>>134019376
Hail og sael friend /
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>>134016984
>nazis
>enemy
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>>134020180
I don't believe that, lad.
It's just that the world of metaphysics is potentially fraught with danger. Better to be safe than to be enslaved to an extradimensional entity.
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>>134005238
I applaud your attempts at bringing this to light, OP, but this is the wrong place. The Black Sun is a genuine, serious occult and esoteric/mystical symbol for our people and our movement. To that end, it is, and should remain, in a sense, some sort of 'forbidden' knowledge only for the most initiated to know of. I would recommend posting on 8ch about this, rather than here. There's no doubt that the Black Sun is powerful and real, but bringing it to the attention of the unwashed masses is a bad idea -- it was reserved for the SS for a reason.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmAvdnYTqOE
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>>134018127
Don't the Jews worship Saturn? I always thought it was evil
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>>134005238
Black hole sun won't you come.....
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>>134016912
The black sun isn't just a symbol, it's a physical object. Anons have showed up in the past with info on it but the threads always get 404'd.
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>>134016352
>bible is last story not subverted by brown people
It was written BY brown people you fucking retarded christcuck.
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>>134020752
They worship yahweh who is similar to saturn
Saturn was one of the primary gods of the Romans
He is not evil, no gods are evil
Ettins are evil
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>>134020752
Saturday is the Jewish Sabbath
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>>134021615
>>134021199

This isnt an /x/ thread
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Bump for interest
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>>134016912
Yeah but nigredo is the worst secondary substance. You either stack rubedeo on multiple potions, or go albedo for the really toxic stuff like black-blood or thunderbolt.
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>>134020715
Who would you recommend asking on 8ch anon? /x/ or /pol/?
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>>134018947
The swastika is not a solar emblem. Its what you get if you plot the 'arm' of the big dipper around the north star.
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>>134022962
Yes it is..
It is in ancient German, Norse, Hindusim
Theres a reason its a part of ancient "sun wheels"
>>134011725
>>134012424
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The Black Sun is the Substantia Nigra.
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>>134022726
Top kek
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>>134023271
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>>134023774
And what is this supposed to mean?
How does this explain the swastika being used as a symbol of the sun (and luck) all throughout the west until about 1920?
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>>134023271
Here's a better one
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>>134024056
The symbol we know as the swastika is not a symbol of the big ball of fire in the day time sky. This one derived from star mapping, and its more likely that the black-sun is an early representation of the sun.
'Lucky' symbols like these or mandalas are visually pleasing shapes that get ascribed fortune-bringing and significance later. That swastikas ended up being used in early visual art alongside sun imagery just means that some ancient artist thought it looked good.
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>>134005238
It represent a flying saucer
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>>134024757
But it IS symbol for the sun
Thats how its used
Not just for Germany but also in Hinduism
You need to post sources for this claim because I've never seen any factual basis
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Reminder /pol/,

If you choose to make a conscious effort to reject GOD in favor of satanic occult nazi superstition, nature worship, buddhism, the new age or any 'esoteric' belief system you will wind up directly in Hell for all eternity.

You cannot choose to reject a whole people like the Jews and continue to spew hatred and be seen as righteous in the eyes of GOD. You have a chance to embrace JESUS as your savior, repent and turn away from sin right now in this exact moment.

https://youtu.be/KCe4miV7v34

JESUS is the only Way, the Truth and the Light.
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>>134005238
Well here's a thought; there are 12 inverted Sig rune there. As you said, twelve is a significant number in magical thought. However, 24 is also significant; 24 hours in a day, 24 runes in the futhark. And if you look at it the second, inner circle cuts off the bottom of each Sig, leaving just a vertical line, the rune Isa.

So in a sense, there are twenty four runes there, Isa and Sig repeated twelve times each. The Sun and Ice. Múspellsheimr. and Niflheimr, over and over in a cycle.
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>>134005238
Looks like a cactus from the top down.

Y'all should just use a stylized cactus from the top down.

Could be a different one every time. Could have a symbol that is a thousand symbols. No one can attack that.

Oh, btw, every cactus but one singular species is native to the America's, neat. Also, nobody fucks with a cactus. Sun of thorns.

Just some thoughts.
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>>134028997
Piss off delusional Christfaggot
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>>134005238
Clinging to the past will only make our struggle harder. We have to ditch ALL the old symbols and start from scratch. We're great enough to create new, meaningful imagery, hell, an entire new language if we want and need it. A fucking cartoon frog put the fear of God into the liberal media, just think of what we could do if we actually looked towards the future instead of a past of shame and ultimate defeat.
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>>134030526
You're so delusional it hurts
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>>134018127
No by black sun its referring to Saturn the planet which relates back to Mesopotamian belief that some chief God who is believed to be worshiped by all the world elites in some form was also worshiped by the ancient Sumerians. it went from there to Canaan then Phoenicia, then Carthage, and all throughout europe in one way or another in monotheistic faiths in the levant its represented as a demon by the name of Ba'al. however we know now that this simply means Lord in ancient dunerune.
irregardless of it all that symbol is currently used by the LHP so whatever german nordic shit you think it represents your sorely mistaken.
See you in September.
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>>134010714

>do these people have some actual meta physical believes

Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Evola

Though most modern "nazis" are either skinheads or delusional Christians who think Hitler and his values were anything within a hundred miles of being "Christian." If you want some modern Nazis who are invested in the occult, almost all of them are concentrated in the black metal scene.

[Although the band says their lyrical themes are simply "anti-JewishChristian and/or anti-religion", they have been accused of far-right and racist views. Gelal Necrosodomy has responded to these accusations by stating "black metal to me is paganism, and paganism is neo-fascism, and neo-fascism is anti-christian, and anti-christianity is black metal. It is a circle that cannot be altered for everything fits in perfectly."] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Belial%27s_Key


My favorite band Nightbringer used an interview with Julius Evola as part of one of their most recent instrumental tracks as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTJHzxuGDp0
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>>134028997
Preach it brother!
>>134030104
Your not being very friendly anon
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>>134030526
People dont create symbols from scratch. To have any meaning they need to be rooted in something earlier. The more primordial the better.
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>>134030526

Symbols are an expression of the spirit of the movement. To reject traditionalist symbols is to reject traditionalism. If you are rejecting tradition, then what are you even striving for?
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ctrl + F electric = nothing
you're all bunch of larping faggots:
https://www.youtube.com/user/ThunderboltsProject/videos
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>>134031427
and right now the symbol you are vying for represents a movement of edgelords on /x/ trying to talk to a planet or the devil.
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>>134030840
Go back to your ghost waifu threads on /x/ with your 2012 Mayan calendar shit

>>134031427
This
You cant "start from scratch" when these ideas are eternal
You need to awaken the spirit of man, and these symbols mean something to all of us even if we dont understand them
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>>134032000
>a movement on /x/

And thats what, 0.0000000000001% of the population of the world?
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>>134032000

It's a germanic sunwheel you dipshit it didn't get "invented" by the National Socialist party or Evola it's just an adaptation of a class of symbols that had been present in cultures throughout Europe long before Christianity, common among the Celts, Germanics and Slavs
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>>134005238
Lots of symbols get thrown around a lot
Deal with it
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>>134029085
There are also 3 swastikas in the symbol.
A "rising", a "zenith" & a "setting" one.
Wikipedia says this along with the sig runes represented "the twelve SS Knights of The Order of the Death's Head and their three retainers".
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>>134005238
Its the progression of the big dipper you dumb cunts.

http://www.modernconstellations.com/allerleiumasvast.html
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>>134033326
Yeah, no
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>>134033326

>spiritual symbols have one meaning only

The negrification of America has turned you all into brainlets.
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>>134005238

I was looking up information on The Black Sun, too, but couldn't find anything.

Sources anyone?!
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>>134033326
That's a big swastika
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>>134033737

For you
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>>134033700
Source of Black Son is OP's mom
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>>134005238
But muh holy bible!
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>>134015925
my dick can only get so erect
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>>134017206
because you made such a succinct and well thought argument too didn't you, you retarded lying subhuman garbage, also because of trump it will likely ONLY be global civil war instead of world war 3 you shit skin. go back to killing and eating each other
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>>134020923
AND WASH AWAY THE RAIN
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>>134005238
The black sun is the galactic sun, the black hole at the center of our galaxy
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>>134005238
Black sun = invisible sun = the thing that births all things.

Consciousness comes from the black sun. Like the Hindu myths where if a branch is cut from a tree, the tree is still there, and after tree is dead the soul of it is still there

Something like that it's been a while.
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>>134029491
Youre the fag from Indentity Evropa you showed up the HWNDU stream either drunk or permanetly stupid and made an ass of yourself. GG
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Provide evidence it was used before the Wikipedia timeline or fuck off.
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>>134013905
it is fucing retard, its the most holy place and the ss is just another name for lucifer being cast from heavens and this place represent chaos and the sea oh binah too and you know what THIS PLACE is juts a reflection from the outer world and you are a fucking negative of a star trapped here on the grid iron or the middle, dont bring me the earth is hollow shit because dante alligeri wants to talk with you and allah or yhvh
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>>134029491
Lol oh wow somehow you're even more of a twig than I am
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>>134035932
>Wewelsburg Castle
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>>134036051
>being this uneducated and stupid

You really rolled snake eyes on your genes didnt ya
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I saw this design online and thought it was cool enough to redraw it in photoshop. Does it mean anything or is it just pretty squiggles?
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>>134012218
>aspculture.com
aspergers-memoriabilia-selling website?
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some retarded niggers in here especially thread creator; but since I'm drunk find yourself a copy of the book 'Empire of the Black Sun'. And good fucking luck because it's been almost scrubbed from existence. Also reading the book will just give you some info. If you were worthy they would have contacted you or will eventually. Don't freak out if they do and remember death in the sense you'll think of it is an illusion, you'll be reborn but the cost is pretty high.
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>>134036995
That sort of looks like celtic knot stuff.
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>>134037916
Switch out the drink for bleack and just kill yourself already fuckin /x/ nigger
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Have a bump lad
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>>134038126
it ain't /x you mongoloid, the sad thing is you literally have no idea what you're inquiring about, the good part about that is that you're just another fucking retard destined for the dust
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>>134009377
Heil Miguel
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>>134005238
The black sun represents nibiru, the destroyer, a space object bigger than earth also known as climate change, global warming, etc. It will destroy this civilization as part of God's judgment in the very close future. Stop the pagan larping, this is evil stuff.
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>>134038632

>it ain't /x
>/x

Oh, even worse, it's R*ddit
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Holy shit this so gay.
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>>134039048

>mentioning Nibiru
>accusing others of LARPing

don't you have some gearheads to be decapitating for liveleak fap material, jose gonzales?
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>>134005238
The Black Sun is Saturn, the sixth planet.
http://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/6.html

It's literally Satan.
People worshipped it back then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7EAlTcZFwY
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>>134005238
Pic related
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>>134024134
kek
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tell me more about my genes sbo fucker fucker, let me remind you that saturn represent rules over your genes and the sperm of yout father is just another aspect of saturn and the womb of your mother is an aspect of the moon and when they fucked they made this silly abo thief white nigger that you are and you know jack shit about astrology and the maya or theconstellations or anything at all, i mean its very fucking clear that you dont know that the twelve tribes of israle represent the people and the twelve constellations , silly mud goym you are made of clay and you are bounded to one star or you can larp about muh hitler here foerever, i mean what is on heaven man, where did you think you want to go when you die,??

i can fucking tell you what kind of nigger you where on your past lives looking at your astral nodes, and so much stuff about your shit attitude and fethishes and everything of you
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>>134017059
that was saladin islamic deus vult nigger, true crusaders where burned alive because they refused to convert to islam and surrender
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>>134020923
I swear to god, that music video calls out the Jews on their media propaganda
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>>134011725
>>134011953

interesting
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HYMN XVI. Indra.

13 Thou to the son of Vidathin, Rjisvan, gavest up mighty Mrgaya and Pipru.
Thou smotest down the swarthy fifty thousand, and rentest forts as age consumes a garment.

HYMN LXXIII. Soma Pavamana.

5 O'er Sire and Mother they have roared in unison bright with the verse of praise, burning up riteless men,
Blowing away with supernatural might from earth and from the heavens the swarthy skin which Indra hates.

HYMN XX. Indra.

7 Indra the Vrtra-slayer, Fort-destroyer, scattered the Dasa hosts who dwelt in darkness. {Prof. Uthaya Naidu translates this as "who sprang from a black womb."}
For men hath he created earth and waters, and ever helped the prayer of him who worships.
8 To him in might the Gods have ever yielded, to Indra in the tumult of the battle. {the Gods of the Harappans yielded to Indra}
When in his arms they laid the bolt, he slaughtered the Dasyus and cast down their forts of iron.

* The ancient singer praises the god who "destroyed the Dasyans and protected the Aryan colour." [ Rg.V. III.34.9 ]

* The singers mention "the black skin, the hated of Indra", being swept ourtof heaven [ RgV.IX.73.5 ]

"the thunderer who bestowed on his white friends the fields, bestowed the sun, bestowed the waters." [ Rg.V. I.100.18 ]
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Did someone link this in an autism thread on /x/
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>>134044050

Any thread remotely pertaining to spirituality attracts /x/ retards or people pretending to be /x/. Even the Christian threads suffer from weird conspiracy theories about reptiles and aliens and shit. Surprisingly the paganism generals are normally tame with the exception of Christians trying to proselytize and/or promising to kill all the pagans when their dying faith is resurrected (Where have I heard this before?) but unfortunately /x/ has gotten to this thread despite an interesting OP.
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>>134044381
I like you ausbro, we're on the same page.
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>>134039395
But Saturn is what the jews worship. Why would we do the same?
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>>134044381
this
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Why is this symbol so beautiful and powerful? It has something deeply mystical.
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>>134049037
same meaning as celtic triskele
every part of the black sun creates itself, it is showing the fractal reality of objective thought that is the foundation of our movement.
the black sun is made up of 100% purity in it's perfection. The black sun is the same effect as zooming in from your place on earth, the cells and atoms of your fingernail to your bedroom in the universe.
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