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are psychedelics degeneracy or /pol/-approved?

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are psychedelics degeneracy or /pol/-approved?
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approved here
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Neutral when used in moderation during your youth. Degenerate when used often, or after the age of 27.
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Using them to "explore" your state of mind is okay, using them to party and be a retard are not.
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>>133988513
Degeneracy. Drugs with negative side effects are degeneracy.
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Yes but not as simple entertainment.
First few times yes you can watch cool shows but after a while you appreciate it in a different way.
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>>133988513
Both
Its like saying
>"Are guns for bad guys or good guys?
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>>133988513
autists don't believe in drug use period
therefore /pol/ is against it
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>>133988933
Are you retarded? Teens and youth are the ones who shouldn't be taking them. They're not for partying.
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>>133989066
>>133988933
>>133988822
Degenerate dubz posters
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>>133989826
Completely untrue.
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>>133989873
see what i mean
>>133989826
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>>133988513
Absolute degeneracy. If you advocate for their usage you are a child who never grew up. New Leftist hippies and druggie """culture""" adolescents love that shit. They misappropriated Huxley's essays on the subject (something written for the counter culture generation anyway) and used it to justify their own self indulgent nonsense
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>>133989826
Im an autist and im for psychedelics

Nothing like the dmt goddesses, showing me their geometric 4 dimensional titties.
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Life is degeneracy. You begin to die the moment you're conceived. How you spend your fleeting time here in this life is up to you.
You only get at most about 60 years to really enjoy it. I wouldn't recommend allowing others to dictate to you how to do it as they always seem to fuck up themselves.
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>>133989961
You don't know what you're talking about. The Jews are the ones who fought tooth and nail to ban this shit. The hippies and LSD users in general were controlled opposition meant to take young people down the party path. Mushrooms and ayahuasca are the only psychedelics you should take if you want enlightenment.
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>>133990463
Wonder who could be behind this post
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>>133988513
Psychedelics allow a person to come to their own conclusion in life. Not the one they have been told to live. Which is why acid changes you.
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>>133990463
this isn't you average everyday autism
this is....advanced autism
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Psychedelics are like conflict for the brain . It allows the brain to enter a state of confusion and from that it can learn. Psychedelics are like meditation taken to an extreme, you can learn from it or you can just use it to avoid reality
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>>133988513

they're valuable if you know what you're doing.
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>>133990662
>>133990766
Facts are facts. No one here is good enough to dictate right and wrong.
If you somehow think you ARE good enough to tell people how they should live their lives, your ego obviously needs a bit of a chill pill.
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>>133991422

are you implying that there aren't people that know better
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>>133988513
The object is to eat them daily but never get high
I take .2-.5 grams daily
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>>133991530
No one knows better when it comes to morality; it's all philosophical horseshit with either no basis (atheist) or founded on religions that have yet to be verified.
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>>133991422
>chill pills are degenerate
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>>133991530
Not really. You might THINK you know. But in the end, you're just a mortal experiencing this strange existence like the rest of us.
Observe, learn, be patient, and keep that ego in check. Don't be an asshole.
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>>133989873
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>>133991726

i think that what you're saying is philosophical horseshit with no basis

>religions
>being verified

it's not fucking twitter. if you're asking if religions and morals are true or false, you are deeply, deeply confused about what they are.

>>133992024

a man is nothing without his ego.

there are in fact people that you should listen to and obey because they're simply have a much higher power level.

and if a man can't be an asshole, then he's not a man at all. being an asshole is basically the primary evolutionary focus for males.
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>>133991697
What does that achieve exactly
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It's not for the mass.
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>>133992024
All I can say is kill male niggers and breed nigresses that is all
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>>133991697

holy shit, this guy actually fucking knows.

btw 4-aco-dmt is better than shrooms, it's just the 0 acetylized prodrug of psilocin.

and yeah, people. if you're getting 'high' off of psychedelics, it's because you're not strong enough yet. the endgame is taking psychadelics like a prescription and acting completely normal and living a good life.

getting 'high' is just your weakness showing.
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>>133992220
>i think that what you're saying is philosophical horseshit with no basis
Fair enough
>if you're asking if religions and morals are true or false, you are deeply, deeply confused about what they are
I think they're man made sets of rules basically a how to on society with a bunch of fucked shit included by retards with personal beefs.
Whether they hold any meaning in anyone's life or even should is another story.
>there are in fact people that you should listen to and obey because they're simply have a much higher power level
>I like to think of myself as one of those people
>t. an insufferable faglord
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>>133992602

Whatever makes your boat tick man.
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>>133991697
>>133992321

I've heard of microdosing but I would feel better actually hearing a polack explain it as opposed to some chick with 50k youtube subs.
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>>133992220
>a man is nothing without his ego.
Ego is also a man's greatest threat.
I didn't say get rid of ego.

>and if a man can't be an asshole, then he's not a man at all. being an asshole is basically the primary evolutionary focus for males.
Then don't cry when the consequences strike.
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>>133992647

>I think they're man made sets of rules basically a how to on society with a bunch of fucked shit included by retards with personal beefs.

don't believe everything you're told
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>>133991697
Dude that's a waste. You need to take high doses.
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>>133988513
Drugs are for losers.
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>>133992321
I am bipolar and it replaces all of this.
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>>133993015

that gets expensive.

but yeah if 1 gram makes most people trip, you should be able to take 4-5 grams a day and work a job like a normal person.

i thought his post said 2-5 grams shrooms a day.
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>>133992988
WTF, I hate atheism now
You really changed my life.
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>>133993169

atheists think that atheism is like knowing that you've never purchased comcast cable service, you have never paid comcast cable service any money, and you can prove in court that you've never done business with comcast cable service.

in reality, atheists are like someone who tries to fix their broken television, and failing, declare that there is no such thing as electricity at all.
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>>133992602

This; you eventually should be able to take over that part of your brain manually(like when you consciously take control of your breathing or heart-beat); although micro dosing might still be needed, depending on how polluted your environment is.
(protip: move to mountains, around 6000ft/1800m above sea level, at-least 15 minutes away from any large city/metro area)
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>>133993443
>100% of atheists think like my strawman
I see you're retarded; I need nothing more from you. Have a good day.
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>>133993549

rather than microdosing, a better idea is a high-intensity break in period, where you eat a pound of mushrooms over a couple days, go through a mental breakdown and temporary insanity, and then stabilize.

you would be shocked at the results.
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>>133993123
You have concerta, hydrocodone and hydroxizine in there from what I can recognize. Don't think Psychedelics replace those.
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thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7kgMRf9Zr0
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>>133993636
You may not believe in the occult or in magic, but the people controlling your life do.
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>>133992220
>a man is nothing without his ego.
Actually, his ego is seperate from him. Ego/mind is constantly sending out signals to get the conscious entity to identify as the ego and mind instead of realizing that the mind is only a tool used for surviving, not who you are. You can have consciousness without thought but you can't have thought without consciousness.
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>>133993978
>this picture I shared from a sperg thread and didn't even bother to rename for posterity's sake proves it!!!
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>>133993636

in fact, 100% of atheists are declaring that something does not exist 'because there is no proof', as if that makes any sense.

>>133994114

if you're not self identified as your ego, you're wasting your life. death is to life as night is to day, but, you're still the only YOU you'll ever get.

consciousness and identification is the point of this existence and attempting to deviate from them is the basis of error.
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>>133993785
Which are
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>>133989545
>Everything including water is degeneracy
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Yes nigger. Get in here and surf the astral planes. Mushrooms, LSD, DMT. Your view of the universe will be greatly enhanced. You may go see some dark shit but don't be afraid. Fear is a vibrational state that can be transcended. Srsly, you can call on Jesus and it will always help you.
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WE MUST BAN ALL THINGS I SUBJECTIVELY ASSOCIATE WITH DEGENERACY
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>>133989545
Mushrooms are the only drug with no negative side affects
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>>133994527

your potential as your dream-self realized.

complete liberation of belief.

lots of sex, if you want.
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>>133993785

Break-through/heroic doses are essential, but they're more of an "as needed" thing now. After my first few deep dives I craved nothing more then to go back, but I think I learned what I was supposed to from there for now("cleaned my room"). It's strange, but I feel like it tells me when I need it; and when I don't need it, I have no desire to(even though I loved all the experiences, and feel it was one of the most beneficial things I've ever done).
Really opened my eyes to allot of old Cherokee stories about sacred plants revealing their medicine, that I grew up with.
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>>133994846

mushrooms are DMT. all forms of DMT have no physiological effects and promote brain health.
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>>133994591
This eating and drinking are degenerate they make you live nothing more degenerate than living
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Definitely approved
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>>133994927

if ur doing psychadelics and u haven't vaccumed, swept, or mopped, ur doing something wrong
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>>133994431
>all atheists are gnostic atheists
Every time you post you reveal just a bit more of what you don't, in fact, know shit about.
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>>133994873
I do that already because of my autism still might help with refinement of my full potential.
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>>133995137

complicating the idea of atheism to create conditions where a statement isn't true

is not actually impressing me
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>>133994846Actually, all psychedelics have the potential to cause circulation problems, and the drugs themselves can instigate underlying psychosis.

Nothing. NOTHING. Is "safe".
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>>133995260
>I need to impress you
>I invented the subcategories of atheism because I care about you and your severe retardation
Okay
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>>133995263

if there's psychosis lying under you, you're going to need to instigate it at some point.

even if it's not safe, that just means you need to be brave.
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>>133995263
You have to source that shit especially mushrooms
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>>133988513

LSD and psilocybin are awesome. Weed is cool too.

Anons who are struggling with anxiety/depression should consider microdosing. It's helped me a lot.
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>>133988513
Psychedelics are /pol/ approved.
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>>133995390

>doesn't care
>posts

if you don't care you don't matter
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>>133988513
ayahuasca is the ultimate redpill
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>>133995664
Your personal feelings don't determine your place in the universe, narcissist.
You're as worthless as the thoughts in your head.
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>>133995473
Serotonin receptor agonism comes with some negative side effects regardless.
Nothing is safe. It is dishonest to characterize any pharmaceutical substance as safe. ALL pharmacologically active substances carry potential negative side effects.
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>>133995535
LSD is synthethic mkultra garbage

Shrooms is the red pills
Ayahuasca is the path to nature (god)
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>>133993789
You're wrong.
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>>133995788

>personal feelings
>places in the universe
>narcissist
>worthless
>thoughts in your head

memes are cancer
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>>133995862

nothing is dangerous, actually.
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>>133988513
/pol supports both, at the same time. >schroedinger's pepe
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>>133996135
>authority on cancer
>17 posts deep in a slide thread
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>>133988513
>are psychedelics degeneracy or /pol/-approved?

Approved:

-LSD
-Shrooms
-Nightshades
-DMT

Degenerate
-Recreational use (Any)
-Shulginshit (DUDE PARTY LMAO)
-Material sourced from non-white countries
-Inhalants
-Tantric anything
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>>133995951

they're all just tryptamines, and you are paranoid.

besides, MK-ULTRA was literally the cia attempting to figure out how to save souls scientifically and cure mental illness.

the CIA is your friend.

>>133996300

>pol memes
>paranoia
>defensiveness
>aggression and hostility

wew
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>>133996400
I Have No Argument: The Post
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>>133994940
>no physiological effects
they definitely influence the physiology of the brain and the serotonin system as a whole.
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They normally increase the personality dimension of openness by a standard deviation. Redpilled as fuck.
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>>133996211
I like the way you think
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>>133996400
After you have done ayahuasca, you understand that it is tailored for the human mind. The voyage is clear, crisp and smooth.

Best experience is to listen to classical music and ride the fucking wave. Takes a full day to make proper ayahuasca, it needs to be cared for an loved, you need to commune with nature and ask the gods permission to make the heavenly brew.

LSD is murky and strange, does not bring you into the correct frequency
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>>133996301
>approving nightshades
>not approving shulginshit
How to spot crystalfag retards.
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>>133990605
>terrance mkenna warning people about cultural engineers

Thats fucking rich m8. He was a radical feminist marcist who literally said that they should limit the amount of male births. He was no better then the Jewish Frankfurt school people, the REAL social engineers
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>>133996771
shulgins was a fucking hack that worked with the government. He is no fucking hero.

If you are ever blessed in your life to take ayahusca, you will understand what it is for your pineal gland to be fully activated like a monk. For your mind to synch with the universe
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>>133996907
Marxist*
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>want to try mushrooms
>nobody i know has any connects
Guess it's up to me to find and pick them myself
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>>133996771
>>133996771
99% of the -etylamine family is subhuman I WANT TO FUUUUUUCK XDDDDD garbage.

The other is so hilariously untested one can't heavily enough recommend against it.
>Crystalfag
I'm fine with synthetic shit. 4-Aco-DMT is one of the most based compounds I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with, but as >>133996985 said the guy was fukken sketch.
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>>133996301
I can tell you have never taken ayahusca...bite your tongue. NOT a party drug, would light a fire in your pineal gland and make you one with nature. The most beautiful experience you can have is to be blessed with the vision of being a panther on the jungle floor.
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>>133997080
same here FUCKING LEAF
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>>133997108
>>133996985
>non-pharmacologists speak about pharma with complete ignorance: the posts parts 1 and 2
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>>133997080
This is my issue
I'd tried them once before but I don't think the dosage was big enough to do more than make me feel a bit weird; pretty much the same when I smoked DMT out of a crack pipe. Just got google deep dream vision for 5 seconds and then had to deal with the burning tire taste in my mouth for the next half hour.
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>>133997080
go in a cow pasture after you have had 1 or 2 days followed by a nice sunny day or two. Find the shrooms that grow on cow shit or close to it. Pinch it from the ground and see if it bruises. If it turns blue, you got the magic.
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>>133997197
>not a party drug
I know.

>>133997224
>>133997080
>>133997322
http://www.fungifun.org/English/Pftek

Alternatively get someone going to the Netherlands to bring you a grow kit.
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>>133997287
you have never walked the path of the jungle.

Your ignorance on the matter is quite telling. I much prefer using something that was used for 10,000+ years than using shulgin party drugs...cause that is what he used to do. Have parties with friends to try out his new shit drugs.
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>>133997322
Smoking DMT is degenerate. For the real DMT experience you need to do ayahuasca

NOT the same at all
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>>133997660
>ayahuasca
That's the cactus shit, right?
Tried that but couldn't find the proper cactus; they weren't in season at all the stores we checked and didn't want to order it online from some seedy website
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>>133997558
>you have never walked the path of the jungle.
You're right. I'm not a fucking nigger.
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>>133997768
None..ayahuasca is the amazonian vine B. Caapi + P. Viridis and other such combos.

It is a pineal gland activator. The most incredible thing I have ever experienced.

You are talking about Peyote. I did not enjoy
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8grams of properly done mushrooms is the ultimate redpill.
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>>133997800
Sad. Your prejudice will never let you fully embrace nature or see divinity before you die.

Knowing ayahuasca is to know the fate of mankind after passing to the other side.

The natives call it the vine of the dead for a reason.
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>>133988513
everyone should try a psychedelic at least once in their life, it forces you to see the world in a different way, which will help you keep an open mind when the trip ends,
that said habitual drug use of any kind is degenerate
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>>133998022
Hope you get to try ayahuasca one day.

Then you will know what the ultimate red pill really is. To become one with nature and travel the path with god
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>>133997080
Buddy only the dried mushroom product is illegal in Canada. The spores are perfectly legal and you can buy them on the internet for under 15$, Spores 101 in Duncan BC is a local canadian business that ships spores. Watch some youtube videos on how to get them going because you have to put some thought and effort into growing them or mold will just rape your mycelium before it gets off the ground.
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>>133997931
>The most incredible thing I have ever experienced.
You should try tweaking out for a week without sleep some time. Puts DMT and Ayahuasca to shame.
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>>133998134
I agree. The most truth you will ever see is on ayahuasca. Sadly, very few people will get to experience this most incredible of voyages
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>>133998235
HAHAHAHAHHA no thanks.
I will stick to ayahuasca once every 3-6 months
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>>133994217
Plenty more where that came from
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>>133996630
Holy fuck, that gif
Its like my face recognition system fried itself for a second. Their faces had multiple eyes, noses and mouths.
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>>133996547

that's right. i don't believe in arguments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udz_Y5dPLOY

>>133996605

well, obviously. what i mean is that they have no interaction with any of your organs, glands, cardiovascular system, sympathetic nervous system, etc. it's quite literally all in your head.

>>133996753

i believe it's good. i've only done pharmahuasca. but as for LSD even though i don't really care for it, a good craftsman doesn't blame his tools. LSD is better than DMT for creative trances, in my opinion, precisely because it's more trivial and detail oriented. DMT is literally the 'this is real' 'this matters' 'this is serious' hormone. you're probably going to feel that writing or drawing or making music is frivolous on DMT.
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>>133988513

/pol/ approved. It allows your mind to see the world for what it truly is, not what we are shown it to be.
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>>133998383
You talk of seeing divinity.
The true nature of the Gods can only really be experienced under intense stimulant psychosis.
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>>133996907
He's a hardcore Jungian who ended up abandoning all of his liberal ideas in his later years.
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>>133998383

why not every day, all day? replace coffee with ayahuasca. whats the nutrition facts for ayahuasca? you might be able to live off of it! blend some kale up in there! add some butter! bulletproof ayahuasca. carbonate it! add some sugar!

some day you'll be able to buy cans of ayahuasca from vending machines courtesy of coca-cola corp.
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>>133998863
>ended up abandoning all of his liberal ideas in his later years.
Proofs?
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>>133996907

his liberalism was original and innovative, however; it wasn't born out of 'believing liberal narratives'. it's entirely possible to theorize a matriarchal system that doesn't use money, but instead worships a blood-goddess in the form of the empress and her priesthood assigns each man a woman as a wife in exchange for his work. that's not a 'liberal' idea.
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>>133998698
The real ayahuasca is more than the DMT. The shaman makes a special blend just for a given purpose. You are to ask the jungle spirits what you want from it and it will deliver in spades. The most exhilarating experience for me was listening to classical music while on the voyage. I could see the music, travel on the waves, I entered the instruments and the composer...felt his creativity, his mind. Absolutely mind-boggling what this brew can show you. All you have to do is ask!
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>>133988513
Well in moderation and when you are mentally and physically healthy then it is fine. It perhaps can even be beneficial.

Just don't believe that anything you see under influence has any significance.
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>>133998937
Just read his book the archaic revival. He was not just another Timothy Leary. He rarely even talks about politics in a left vs right sense, he's greenpilled as fuck.
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>>133996985
who said he was a hero? i have taken and grown ayahuasca for a decade and it has taught me nothing about my pineal gland. Dmt production has only been confirmed in rat pineal glands, we dont even know that the same occurs for humans. Read a damn book, crystalfag.
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>>133998802
I asked it to see god and it showed me god.
Ayahuasca is the type of magic portal experience that needs to be taken with a goal in mind, questions...not mundane shit. If you want to communicate with your ancestors, hear they message, all you need to do is ask.

Unless you have experienced it, you can't understand what this thing is.
Jaguars in the amazon chew on B. Caapi to experience its power. Humans need to add P. Viridis in order to allow you to ingest the spirits of the vine (DMT).

I enjoy music, have played instruments for many years. I took ayahuasca and put classical music, I asked it to show me the inspiration of its creators...true enough I could see the partition, then traveled beyond to the music itself expressed in a form I could never imagine music could be.

Mind fucking blown
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Anyone have a good guide on finding magic mushrooms in the uk? I think I've seen them lots of times but I never risked taking them as I wasn't certain.
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>>133988513
I have seen multiple people fall for the LSD is not a mind-control research drug meme. It is degenerate and can make you a schizoid postmodernist. Seen people lose their ability to work and then having to go to therapy to recover because there is no objective reality to them anymore. Shrooms and dmt on the other hand connect you to the higher being and orient you to the reality. But you have to be careful if you are a total degenerate. God will bring this up on the trip and throw it in your face and give you the hell you deserve.

It is not for everybody. Not everyone is meant to be a shaman.
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>>133988513
should be given to schoolchildren
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>>133989066

Checked and seconded.
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>>133999342
>when you are mentally and physically healthy then it is fine
but the harsh reality is that if you're mentally and physically healthy, you have no desire for substances
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>>133997287
its all about vibrating at the frequency of truth, breh, that is the only way to understand reality.
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>>133998868
The true power of ayahuasca is that you take it with questions needed to be answered. Once you have received the answer. you are meant to think over your vision, to digest what you have been shown before you go back in again.

I doubt it will become commerical to that point. The magic comes from taking time to prepare it. It is not something you can just molest via a machine.

The group I do ayahuasca with has it in resin form. I put the powder in some strong coffee and wait to enter the portal. It is a nice combo but I don't think I could handle going full blown every day.

Some people do micro-dose however. Take minute amounts ever day to relieve depression
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>>133998868
Because eventually you will upregulate your serotonin receptors too much for them to do their work.

Further more there is the over activation of 5-ht2b receptors. These receptors are situated on your heart valves and stimulate the growth upon activation. This can cause hearth problems.
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Psychedelics can be Radical Action (to Unseat the Hold of Monkey Mind). This is a good and noble use. Some chores, some changes of trajectory, cannot be completed without a degree of trauma, and there is hardly a trauma sweeter than tryptamine. The road to Damascus is worn and pitted.
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>>133999750
HAHAHAHAHAHAH you have grown ayahuasca for a decade...moron, ayahuasca is 2 to 10 plant mixtures....

I have grown ayahuasca HAHAHAHAAH fucking idiot
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Has /pol/ ever smoked changa? One day I'd like to be able to source all the components from around my house. Beautiful drug.
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Can confirm, saw jesus in his love and splendor, felt very religious.
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>>133999932
Why not? If there is something to celebrate, I like to take them . Sometimes it is beer, then another time it is mushrooms. I just don't smoke, because it is bad for your physical endurance.

Don't see the problem with it. Note though that both are legal in my country.
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>>133999814
fucking easy

Find a cow farm....wait for a heavy rain for 2 days (not hard in the UK) and a nice sunny days or two. Walk in the pasture and look for grey mushrooms coming out of white cow shit or in the grass. Pick up the mushroom and see if it bruises (turns blue). Dry that shit at low temperature (not the oven) and enjoy.

If you take fresh, you have to take 5x more to get the same effect
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>>133988513
>are psychedelics degeneracy or /pol/-approved?

only the biblical kind
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>>133989545
>Drugs with negative side effects are degeneracy.

better quit corn syrup,

that one is the worst
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>>134000593
Any special cleaning procedure to make sure all the cow dung is off?
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>>133990463
not true, most people start dying at around age 25
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>>133994940
Bullshit all drugs have negative effects. DMT can disturb your breathing, it rises your blood pressure and when overdone it can give you valvular diseases due to overstimulation of receptors residing on your heart valve. Also it can trigger psychosis and it is still not clear if it also can cause it.
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>psychedelics are for blue pilled fags
DUDE I TOOK SOMETHING ONCE NOW I UNDERSTAND METAPHYSICS LMAO
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>>133998064
What was your ayahuasca experience like?
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>>134000830
Just bring scissors and cut above the dung. You can use a paint brush once you get home to remove any particles but you don't want to get them wet, the shit will mold quick.

Put in a paper bag and place close to a PC fan (like the back of your PC) for about a day or two. Once they snap easily and you see some blue marks appear on the shroom they are almost ready.

You will want to them place them in a bowl with a dessicant pack and close the lid. Leave them there for 2 days to remove any moisture. Then store them in a ziplock bag in the freezer and enjoy whenever you want.

Go slowly, take only .5 grams to 1 gram the first time, it is pretty fucking intense the first time around. Then move your way up as you understand the trip. Shit can get fucking crazy, but never get scared, go with the flow.

When I go to my friend's farm, I can pick up almost 500g a day
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>>134001245
Thanks anon
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>>134001136
Oh my lord...I have done it about 12 times so far.

The last time was the most intense. I asked it to show me god and the afterlife. I took about 2 grams (I get if from a group that makes a resin, very unique). I sat in my backyard under a coconut tree and as the trip kicked in, I started entering the vascular system of the plant, I could see the inside of the tree, the coconuts...then my mind just became the earth, I travelled into the jungle and became a panther on the prowl...at this point the purge kicked in, I started to puke and every time I was vomiting, I could feel the jaguar growl...then I got into what I would call a stargate, I traveled the fucking universe, went to distant galaxies and at some point I´entered a stain glass world...I walked this narrow pathway with a dead relative of mine, I could feel her hand guiding me to god...God looked like a sphere with various geometric shaped coming out of it, it was made out of a stain glass material and made me feel totally at peace. It communicated with me via emotions and visions.

Absolutely mind blowing experience
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My gerbil just had 4 babies and i just ate one...
Is that bad?
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>>134001478
Have fun bro, travel safe and make sure you take your shrooms in good company and in a safe and comfortable place. The best place to do it is in nature, at a cottage or any place that makes you feel at peace. City tripping is too fucking much sometimes. You will look at people and see how fucking weird society is.

If you do it with many people you trust, you will all start tripping at the same time, usually you will burst out in laughter at a small stupid thing and then you will enter in communion with your buddies. The outside world will be fucking strange to you
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>>133988933
>>133989832 beat me to it. Psychedelics are for mature adults only, not stupidass kids or 22 year olds in college who think they're invincible.
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>>133999515
>Just read his book the archaic revival. He was not just another Timothy Leary. He rarely even talks about politics in a left vs right sense, he's greenpilled as fuck.
Could be interesting.

I listen to his lectures a lot. A tonne of it is interesting but then there's suddenly moments where he forcefeeds the audience poz before backing off again.
>>133999069
He did however consider single mothers a healthy thing at least at one point.
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>>134000368
i grow those plants. do you live in a reality where you can only grow one plant at a time?
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I've only ever tried Salvia and it was the most intense trip I've ever had, and I loved it. How different is it from DMT?
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>>134002122
B. caapi and P. viridis to be precise
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>>134001478
Forgot to mention!

If you have a good amount of shrooms, buy a good quality honey and put your dried shrooms in the honey, it will turn blue/gray and will keep your mushrooms from spoiling. It is also easier to take as you don't have to eat the mushrooms, just a half to full teaspoon of honey
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>>134001927
itt Brazilian shaman inspires pol to try ayahuasca. I want to be a panther.
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>>134002122

good for you
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>>134002394
Your trip reports have a lot of promising evidence for the existence of the afterlife, or reincarnation. To experience it personally though must have been life changing.
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>>133994992
>>133994591
i know you're joking about this but for a long time there was actually controversy regarding whether incidentally enjoying food you eat because you're hungry counts as gluttony
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>>134002394
Thanks, I really enjoy growing Wachuma as well.
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>Validate my lifestyle /pol/!
There, that's every single "Is X degenerate" thread in a nutshell
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>>134001687
Wow that's amazing. Any more details about God? Were you able to get anything more in terms of information? I've only done lsd and shrooms (though it's been a while) and I have a bad habit of trying to intellectualize the indescribable
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>>134002320
It is pretty awesome indeed.
But you need mental preparation and you need to do it with a purpose.

If you take it in liquid form, be prepared to do some vomiting.

this is the e-mail for the group I take it with, they have it in resin form (very rare and unique to this group). They may know where you can source it outside of brazil

[email protected]

They dude speaks english
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>>133992220
verified used to just mean "proved true" not "jews would be happy if you believed in this"
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>>134002491
>evidence
anecdote
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>>133988513
Mushrooms are the only thing stopping me killing myself
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>>134002491

It was really special and quite unique. I have done pretty much every psychadelic and have never had such a controlled voyage. It gave me precise answers to the questions I had.

I became a devout ayahuasca user after that experience. I use it every 3 to 6 months, depending on my vacation time.
The most incredible it to do it while listening to music...

If you want more info, this is the e-mail of the group I take it with: [email protected]
The dude speak English so you can ask him whatever you want, they are very friendly people
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>>134002533
I just started growing round pod iboga (legal in Brazil). I don't know if I can use that stuff again however, the last time I tripped on that stuff, it lasted 2 days
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>>134002654
Think they've have peyote in resin form?
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>>134003152
*peyote, San Pedro, any mesc cactus really
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>>133990605

This
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>>134002112

>He did however consider single mothers a healthy thing at least at one point.

no one is perfect or right all the time. i try not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

not that i really care about mckenna much at all anyways. i've never really paid him much attention.

>>134002777

the proof is in pudding.
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>>134002610
It was more in feelings, visions and emotions. Very difficult to describe the visions that it showed me. The best part about ayahuasca is to take it, learn from it and refelect upon it. Gather new questions and go for another voyage.

I grow lots of tropical medicinal plants and I often ask the spirits to show me recipes and preparations for medicine. I have not been disapointed and now understand how the natives acquired their knowledge of medicinal plants and how to use them.

Fucking crazy shit.

If you want more info, you can contact the group I do ayahuasca with: [email protected]
They speak english and may be able to help you find a source or if you come to brazil, you can join in with a group
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>>134003078
That is what i hear about that one, it lasts forever and its supposed to be one of the mose uncomfortable trips. I haven't tried it myself, but I bet I could grow it with very little risk (police dont usually hire botanists). Good luck with the plant.
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>>134003152
Peyote comes in powder form actually. The flower buds of the cactus is dried and powdered.

I don't know if the group I deal with has any peyote. You can ask, they probably can source it or know people that have
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>>134003603
>>134003152
>Peyote
>not Peruvian torch
Pls.
>>134003449
True. It's just a huge black mark IMHO.

What do you read these days in regards to Psys?
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>>133989066
I respect you Amernican. That's how I approach psychedelics too and learned a lot of shit from a heroic dose of mushrooms
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>>134003479
The most difficult part is to get it to germinate. What you need to do is soak those fuckers for a while before you plant them. Even if you have no germination for up to 1 year, it is normal. They can take some time to germinate. It is not a hard plant to grow but it does go very slow and takes about 5 years in a tropical climate to get any good amount of root. The best thing to do to harvest in a sustainable manner is to double pot it. First in a laundry basket with large holes and into a large pot. You can harvest what ever pokes out and not harm the main taproot.

It was pretty fucking horrible as a voyage. I don't think I would recommend this experience unless a person has 2 or 3 days to trip and has company to watch over them. You really can't get up or do very much.
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>>133996071
>provides no evidence
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>>134003743
You can contact the group and find out.

[email protected]
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>>133989723
well said
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>>133988513
not doing psychedelics is degenerate
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>>134004307
True...it is the only bullshit free travel experience...no checks ins or flights nor baggage to carry around
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>>133998171
I can get that out of a quality shroom trip, but yes. I hope to do ayahuasca one day as well.
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>>133997322
>>133997080
sporedepot.com
It's not illegal. Buy pours and grow them yourself. You get lots for cheap and its fun to do.
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>>134003981
If i grow it I probably wouldnt partake. I would just enjoy its presence and the knowledge of its power, though I wouldn't know its power unless i did try it.
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>>134004505
If you want to deal with a trustworthy group, you can contact the people I do ayahuasca with.
[email protected]. They speak English and can answer any questions you have. They may have a group member somewhere in the USA. The great thing about this group is they have ayahuasca in resin form, so it will cause less vomiting (if at all). They are the only people I know that make it in that form. The liquid form can be a little nasty to take down
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>>134002191
The only way they're similar is in intensity (which also depends on dose) and duration. Other than that, completely different

>>134004406
Hey ayahuasca anon, I've got some mimosa hostilis root bark and syrian rue seeds sitting around, they contain DMT and harmala alkaloids, the exact same stuff in the caapi vine and viridis leaves. I was thinking of tripping off 2 grams of each (about 20 mg of DMT and 60mg of harmaline/harmine mixture). Do you know the dosages or concentration profile of caapi or viridis well enough to tell me if this is a good dose? I might start with 1 gram of each to test the waters, or half the mg listed.
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>>133988513
Both- /pol/ is filled with non drug taking faggots and drug taking super autists. It all works out, when I'm on /pol/ I'm usually on something.
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>>134004903
It is powerful as fuck. It indicated to me where it wanted to be planted (my mother plant) in my little jungle. The most unnerving part is the spirit that is associated with the plant, the woodman!

During my trip, I saw this entity and it did not give me the good vibes I get from ayahuasca.
It is also a spidermite magnet. I have to clean the leaves once a month with a bio soap and it fucking hates light...very filtered light is required, it grows best in very low light.

For the first year, it is good to give it compact fluorescent light to get it well established. The light must be indirect and far away
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>>133988513
At least one or two uses will help you become truly redpilled.
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>>134004955
yes, it will work.

You don't need to use much syrian rue seed and make your batches seperate. Put the hostilis bark in a kettle and boil that shit for a few hours, until you got plenty of tannins. You will want to them remove the bark and keep simmering until you have half of the water gone.

Next crush your seeds in a coffee grinder and do the same.

You need 6:1 mimosa to rue seeds

Drink the rue seed first, wait 10-15 minutes and then drink your mimosa bark juice.

Take it fucking slow, drink slowly the mimosa tea until you start feeling your face....don't drink too much cause you will fucking fly hard. Mimosa is much darker of an experience
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>>134005770
interesting, but there's many ways to do this, why do you recommend this specific way?
What if I just eat the MHRB bark plain?
Also, have you tested different ratios of MAOI and DMT? Why not 2 grams of rue and one gram of MHRB, isn't this kind of like a more efficient way of taking less DMT for a stronger trip?
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I don't know about shrooms etc but lsd is great (for microdosing). The chill effect lasts for 3 days you won't trip with a microdose and the effects on thinking and creativity (if your job depends on it) are awesome. Another great side effect is the huge increase in assertiveness which I wasn't looking for but I like it anyway. It actually makes you achive way much more without thinking too much.
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>>134006273
cause you don't need much of the rue seed, it will only prevent you from <digesting> the DMT of the bark. You don't want to chew the bark, you have to boil that shit good and hard and filter properly. The more bark shit you have in your stomach the more you will fucking puke

Some people panic during the purge, especially on mimosa, you often get feelings of impending doom..so you want to take it chill and after you finish barfing you need to go in a dim room or in a place where you can chill for a while. Put on some classical music and go for the ride. Go with the flow, and make sure you ask the spirits questions and enjoy the vision. It will last about 4 hours and you don't want to be distracted. Keep a barf bucket close and make sure you have somebody to watch over you the first time in case you start shitting yourself...it is hard to move around during the trip and you may break your walnut on the bathroom floor. Be safe and careful.

So again...take 6 to 12 grams of root bark, let that shit cook for about 2 or 3 hours, remove the bark, reduce the liquid and wait for it to cool down.

Take 1 to 3 grams of syrian rue and crush it good, boil for about 2 hours, filter and let it cool down.

Drink the rue first in one go and wait 10-15 minutes before you start sipping the bark tea, Put some honey in that noise or it will make you gag. It usually kicks in within 30 minutes, so don't over do it with the mimosa tea.

Don't eat before you take the teas. Prepare a light snack for after and keep water on hand to rinse your mouth if you barf.

After 4 hours you will snap out of it and have no after effect. You can then eat.
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>>133999915
This, safety is key.
And fuck all the nazi posters who act like their idol wasn't hopped up on drugs all through WW2
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>>133989723
Based Argentinan 10/10. Objects themselves aren't good or bad it's how they're used
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