Did Snowden's NSA leaks change anything?

the problem is that he leaked too much. The average American couldn't keep up with it, that's why CURRENT YEAR MAN had to explain it by saying "LOL YOUR DICK PICKS ARE BEING SPREAD AROUND" but it didn't help.

>>133985415
Nothing to hide, nothing to fear faggot

You know what political issues men care about?

Jobs. The economy. Providing for their family.

You know what political issues millennial snowflakes care about?

Whether big brother saw them watching trap porn. Net neutrality. Making sure they can steal movies over the internet

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It's funny watching people freak out when they find out about this. Most of us are not important enough to ever be effected by it.

>>133985415
No. The majority of people are cattle and will go along with whatever is done so long as their lives remain comfortable. It's only a tiny portion of society who care enough to cause trouble over this kind of crap.

>>133985830
>blackmail official that is standing against enslaving you
>no one left
>you are enslaved

>doesn't affect you

just use tor =]]]

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>>133986067

That's how they got the audio of Micheal Flynn's conversation, ostensibly from the UK government via data sharing once the NSA identified that a call had taken place. No warrants needed.

Same reason the democrats setup those bait emails and bait meeting with the Russian national lawyer bitch. Their first FISA warrant was denied (which is like .00001% chance) so they had to tie him to someone outside of the country and use specific keywords via Don Jr.

The deep state is already using all these tools to try and bring down Trump and his administration. The threat is very real.

>>133987780
just look at based romania fending off xkeyscore

>>133985765
says the neo-nazi posting on a radicalized hate website

No, it didn't change a thing. If anything, le-clever drip-drip muh-strategery did nothing more than desensitize people.

It also doesn't help that Snowden and Greenwald have lied about a number of things or at least embellished. And those lies and embellishments made it to the movie.

>last 8+ years
Yeah buddy,make that 80+

>>133985765
Men don't care about those issues, because they've already taken care of them. If you have a weak situation in life, it's because you're weak.

>>133985415
Nothing has changed.

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>>133988920

Which things were lies/embellishments?

I'm pretty much certain I'll believe anything at this point, now that we know any god damn thing with a microphone/camera can be used to spy on us, even our televisions.

> HEY ALEXA, TELL THE CIA I LOVE THEM

>>133985415
It really didn't change anything. If anything, it made things worse because now we know they spy on us and people around you LOVE IT. In fact, they even buy devices that SPY ON THEM for fuck sakes!

>>133989158

Optic Nerve was embellished in the movie. It went from passive sniffing of video frames transmitted in the clear across the Internet to remote activation of anyone's webcam, whether using Yahoo! or not.

>>133989158
>even our televisions
Thats something holy for americans is it.

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It is funny to see how Muricans reacted to this.
>Yes, Goverment is literally monitoring us and we've got no privacy at all
>but there are not enough blacks in movies, what is up with that?

Hey, what if BLM was a planned operation so people would forget about Snowden?

>>133989744

Dude right? I may be a little paranoid but the whole surveillance story and outrage dropped off everyone's radar thanks to government created problems like the migrant crisis.

Even fox news doesn't report on new surveillance systems that Wikileaks publishes on a monthly basis. Fucking controlled opposition.

Another mistake Greenwald made was blowing up numerous foreign operations. For all the sensationalism about unconstitutionality, he and Snowden demonstrated next to nothing to indicate illegalities on the domestic front (only thing that comes to mind is a bad apple or two over the years spying on a spouse). They tried to play off mere capability as actual execution, i.e., "LOOK WHAT THEY CAN DO" = "LOOK WHAT THEY ARE DOING."

So four years later, I've still seen no indication that the spy agencies have done anything wrong, certainly nothing that would merit the level of sensationalism and hysteria.

>>133990141

I think you missed the point of the revelations. Prior to this all surveillance was done proactively. Suspect someone. Get a warrant. Listen to their calls/emails for a set period of time going forward. Now you can suspect someone and retroactively surveil everything they've EVER done in their entire life.

4th amendment much? You are being surveilled at all points in your life even when you are not a suspect for anything. Clear violations.

>>133990732
The point is not your 4th mate.The point is to have all the juicy info from all your life that can be used to character kill you if you were to run for president.

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>>133991070

And just generally chill everyone from trying to fight against state power. I'm surprised after 9 months they haven't been able to take down Trump -- imagine how squeaky clean you have to be to survive in the political world nowadays without being blackmailed by the deep state.

Snowden is a CIA plant meant to sabotage the NSA in inter-agency relations.

Notice how nothing substantive came from his leaks, aka. his leaks weren't even Wikileaks level.

Snowden was a PR hit job against the NSA towards the CIA's favor.

>>133990732
>I think you missed the point of the revelations. Prior to this all surveillance was done proactively. Suspect someone. Get a warrant. Listen to their calls/emails for a set period of time going forward. Now you can suspect someone and retroactively surveil everything they've EVER done in their entire life.

We've known about that since the '90s, if not earlier.

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>>133992398

Source?

>>133992556
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

>>133993059

Thanks. I do remember that. Shit came out back in the analog days though. I don't think anyone worried that their digital life was being scooped up by echelon.

>>133992016
Well that may be because Trump made a deal with them.Remember,he's a business man and has no clue how to politician.
You want to know how i know he made a deal with them?By backstepping from fucking killary raw in the ass.

No, most people don't give a shit about their privacy. Most people actually believe "nothing to hide nothing to fear"
It's extraordinarily depressing to see the rare and precious circumstances that gave us our constitutional protections wiped away so carelessly but it's not surprising. Good times never last, people are garbage and only in periods of adversity when a minority of well intentioned individuals are able to force their will upon everyone else, are we able to create good governments.