"Trad" bullshit

>>133968058
>So why shouldn't I continue leading a life of degeneracy, going from one woman to the next?

because when youre 50, alone and childless, and when no women want to fuck you anymore and your friends have long since married, youll be a lonely old man who has wasted his life doing nothing but chasing skirts and short term relationships

then youll realize what a mistake youve made.
get over the girl you lost, then maybe youll be able to love again

tl;dr version: I tried the trad lifestyle, it didn't work out, now I want to live a life of happy degeneracy. Why is this bad.

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>>133968272

>50, alone and childless

If you think 50-year old men can't pull sloots far younger than them, you need to re-educate yourself on the differences between men and women, leaf. A guy can easily reel in skirts half his age until he goes flaccid if he has enough skills, confidence and income.

(Graph source: OKCupid data)

If you lost her she isn't the woman you love anymore. Quit having oneitis you fgt

>>133968058

You find a younger hotter woman OP and you put kids in her asap, she can't trade up, no one in their right mind wants a single mother.

>>133968940

If I had oneitis I would not be dating dozens of other chicks, nigger. But it's very clear to me that I will never love them. They do not mind; I make it clear I'm only interested in casual relationships right at the start. Again, why is this bad? It is entirely voluntary on both sides (flag change).

>>133969284

Already done that. I do not love her. I do not want to marry her. I do not want to have kids with her.

>>133968058

Didn't read, faggot

Having kids will make you happier than any gay hobby or autistic lifestyle that is currently fucking your shit life to death

Just get a woman that is 1. attractive, 2. won't cheat on you. That's literally it. Love, interests, etc are all bullshit. Loyal attractive woman + kids = all a man needs in life

you won't realize it until you have it

Get trad or get fucked

>>133968696
you think you wont get bored of having meaningless sex for 30+ years? ok have fun then

youll also need money for that too

either way, keep trying to find a wife. giving up is for faggots

>>133969326
When you're 50 living alone after your looks have faded and you know any woman that marries you will be only for money. That's when it's bad. If you actually open up you can love again.

>>133969644

> looks have faded

You really don't know how the female brain works, do you.

No-one has answered the key question. Isn't marrying a subpar chick, after you've already found the woman you love, "trading down"? If not, why not?

I do not mean "subpar" merely in terms of looks and age btw.

>>133969757
I know if a woman think she can trade up, she will. If she finds a man making the same money as you but younger or hotter, she will. But if you've had kids and already have been together for years, you've got her on a chain.

>>133970065
>Isn't marrying a subpar chick, after you've already found the woman you love, "trading down"

only if you actually hate her or if shes a fatty.
you sound like some child who dated a girl for like 6 months and got dumped while still in the honeymoon stage.

no girl is perfect, if you drop her after finding a single flaw the problem is mostly you. If you want to actually love a girl you need to be with her more than a few months and establish an actual, meaningful relationship

>>133970065
> If not, why not?
why did you two split up? the reason therein will be the answer.
>>133969326
>why is this bad
anyways, no one said it was a bad thing. just don't be a statistical nigger contracting some venereal disease and spreading it around.

>>133970531

Yeah. Fuck, try being together for 7 years. All of your bullshit ideas of romance will change. Those who can't handle being a trad male and HANDLING the relationship = doomed to failure

>>133968058
>he thinks he has to love the bitch that makes his kids.
I pity you anon.

>>133970531

It was a year and 2 months.

I do not drop girls after finding flaws. Flaws are fine. I'm actually happy to date a flawed girl for longer than a few months as long as they accept that the relationship isn't exclusive and that I might leave at any time. There are lots of chilled-out women who are fine with this. As long as they are attractive, low-maintenance, and not clingy, I don't care that much about their flaws.

you shouldn't. you should spend your life in vain pursuits so that when it's time to die, you'll have missed every opportunity to do anything spiritually fulfilling, and there will be more room in the eternal infinity of consciousness that the larval stage of the physical man matures into.

>>133970980

This is a fair point. I know a guy who has a wife and kids, but spends most of his time touring around America cheating on her. I wouldn't do that because I'd feel bad, but I understand why some would.

>>133970662

>why did you two split up?

Because I was young, inexperienced, and made mistakes.

>venereal disease

Don't worry senpai I use protection.

Why did you "lose" her OP? Did you cheat or she just dumped you? There are always better women out there.

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>>133968058
>Degeneracy
>Chasing some roastie until she is old and used up.
There's another option.

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>>133971417

It doesn't matter now.

>>133971604

Lmao why? Sex is fun and, contrary to what some MGTOWs think, easy to obtain.

>>133969577

Are you selfish enough to commit genetic suicide? To take the billions of years of reproducing organisms who came before you and just stand there and let your line die because you're emotionally incapable of leading a relationship after the honeymoon phase? No wonder the white race is dying. Birth control allowed degenerates like you to satisfy your sex drive without leading to the end goal of pregnancy.

You know what, I take it back. don't have children and improve our gene pool instead

>>133969547
This.

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>>133971991

I'm not opposed to leaving a few kids here and there, or donating to a sperm bank. There are many ways to spread your genes without settling down and raising a family. Pic related.

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>>133969547

Last time I checked parents with kids don't look too happy, desu, and often end up divorced. >>133971991 is right actually, it was mainly the lack of birth control that forced people to marry and raise kids in the past. And he can rage all he like, but now that birth control is here, there are few incentives to continue doing so.

One of the strongest that remains is falling in love with someone, but how often does that happen? And how do you replicate it without the feeling that you are trading down? That is the question that I created this thread to answer.

>>133972632
>trading down

how are you trading down when you have nothing to begin with?

Trad women are a meme. They're "reformed" sluts who snorted BBC smegma throughout university and they're just hiding those facts from you. Once you marry a trad girl, the facade comes off and she's out downtown every weekend getting black bred by men with larger cocks than yours.

>>133972269

None that will maximize the likelihood of their growth into strong, healthy children greater than being raised daily in a patriarchical household run by their biological father.

If you use a sperm bank you child will end up in the womb of a filthy SJW landwhale to be raised in a Wiccan commune with her lesbian lovers and will surely be used as a transgender social experiment. Such is the cruelty of the world. It is a fate worse than death. Nobody cares about children more than their biological father.

Trad nuclear family is the only fully acceptable way to raise a child.

>>133973669

If a kid has my genes, no amount of SJW Wiccan communes will prevent him from succeeding at life. As we are now rediscovering, it is nature, not nurture, that counts.

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>>133973875
>As we are now rediscovering, it is nature, not nurture, that counts.

Agreed, and dinosaur bones are a test from god.

>>133973875
>If a kid has my genes, no amount of SJW Wiccan communes will prevent him from succeeding at life.

where the fuck are you getting this from? without a good father figure genes arent going to save your children from shit

>>133973875
that's not how it works

http://developingchild.harvard.edu/resources/inbrief-the-impact-of-early-adversity-on-childrens-development/

>>133972632

>without the feeling of trading down

Reality will never compare to the dream. If you are in a relationship as a man it will never be with your equal as a woman. They are hypergamous and will always be dating a man who is better than they are/doesn't pedastalize them.

You will have to lead a relationship with a woman to whom you are superior. It will require patience and it will not be a constant fairy tale high. That high is a Disney kike lie.

The reality is a constant expectation to perform as the leader of a relationship and it will require perpetual strength and will to be the superior one. It sounds hard and unenjoyable to more adolescent or recently red-pilled men but it is truly where a fully realized man is meant to be.

You will never reach your potential chasing fleeting hedomistic rushes. Your place is at the head of the pack.

>>133973875
That's why your deciding to be a would be evolutionary masturbator, larping on a anime politics imageboard right? Cause your father's genes saved you from being a faggot?

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>>133968058
Women will soon be useless. Artificial wombs will soon replace the one job we need women for. Women will then be reduced to the status of inferior versions of men.

>>133974353

Robert Plomin's twin studies. Look them up.

>>133974194

I guess gender is just a social construct too, huh?

Some of you faggots need to realize that conservatives and liberals use the same bullshit arguments about the importance of culture and shared environments in determining personality. They just pick different parts of the culture to focus on. Feminists think Lara Croft's titties cause sexism, and barbies in pink boxes create gender roles. Conservatives think rap music causes violence and fathers are the difference between prosperity and starvation. It is all bullshit. We are born, we develop, and it is our genes - not our environment - that do most of the work in determining where we end up.

>>133973875

And their genes will be comprised of half of what ever sludgeball buys your sperm to be used as the final revenge against ten FUCKING WHITE MALES who rejected them for being sacks of shit.

The sexual selection process is there not as a massive inconvenience or as some outdated relic of our tribal past. It is there for both parties to maximize the quality of their offspring. You too can choose where your sperm goes.

>>133975340

This is a fair point and I agree that the current system of sperm donation is too one-sided in favor of the recipient. As it stands, recipients get to choose whose sperm they receive while donors get very little say in the matter. This should be rebalanced. As >>133974732 says, however, technological changes could very quickly make the issue redundant.

>>133972632
>falling in love
Holy fuck you're dense. Real marriage isn't about being all lovey dovey for the rest of your life, the true partnership that morons on the alt-right push to no end but do it sloppily is not based on love but that of construction. You enter a marriage to produce something, its a rational decision, not one made by your dick. Love is a feeling, its transient, just like looks. What a good marriage does is produce something that outlives muh fee fees.
A song for you to make you ponder this seemingly esoteric concept. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh9ZZgDqzAg

>>133975582

>this should be rebalanced

Will these be the words you whisper to absolutely nobody while you die with no family and nobody giving a fuck

Get real. Artificial wombs will be no saving grace. The only way forward is by improving yourself physically socially and emotionally until women want to procreate with you

Stop jacking off and stop watching porn. Hit the gym. You clearly have a mind. It needs to be passed on or the world falls to eternal darkness