A reminder that Monarchy is the only legitimate ideology and

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*blocks your path*

>>133960743
Reminder that Lena is best girl

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>>133960743
*gives free helicopter rides*

>>133960541

Romanov restoration when?

>>133961081
Hopefully soon but I would prefer a new dynasty

>>133960931
best good ending tho
and the most horrible bad ending

>>133961282

Why, the Romanov dynasty is one of Europe's most ancient and great houses, their rule of Russia stretches all the way back to 1613.

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>>133961032
1 Soviet Mi-24 helicopter could wipe out the whole Chilean airforce.

Stay cucked my friend.

>>133960541
lol monarchy is for faggots

monarchies usually get pretty corrupt and degenerate

>>133961636
True but the remaining Romanovs all suck ass

>>133961653
No, it wouldn't. Communism is dead, face it.

>>133961673
t. Commie/Liberal scum

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>>133960743
*Stabs and throws into ditch*

>>133961911
Yes it could, shitty Chilean U-1 Hueys would be raped by the Soviet Mi-24.

Also
>C-communism is dead
>Shills for monarchies
Lol

Sorry about your mental illness.

>>133960541
You want Solomon back?

Gotta agree tbqh
Shoulda made Washington king
God save the King

>>133960541

>anti-traditional

So is a monarchy that does not answer to the church. Bestowing supreme authority not on the Lord, but on mortal man, was the first link of a chain of revolutions.

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>>133962266

>Implying monarchy is dead

Doing a lot better than communism.

>>133962266
Even today, there are still more monarchies than communist countries. Kek.

>>133960541
Then why did it fail?
>all else is a corrupt, degenerate and anti traditional
It can be all of these things too.

>>133960541
Then why did you advocate for their overthrow throughout Europe, jewboy? Why did you invent communism?

>>133962323
Goddamn yes! Under Democracy man come to power only if they are popular and not because they are skilled, only rarely we see a good politician appearing.

tradition is the corpse of wisdom

>>133962409
Religion is not the only tradition.

>>133962491
Marxist ideas spread all over Europe and weak minded people feel for them.

>>133962551
Jews are a monotony

>>133962410
>Weak cucked country's still have monarchies

Communist China could rape all of thouse shitholes. Try again you low iq subhuman.

>>133962410

Is it? when the head of that "monarchy" is flooding their homeland with islam invaders...

>>133962410
Name one monarchy that is not cucked?

>>133962897

Japan.

>>133962794
>weak cucked
Is that Rich and Prosperous in commiespeak?

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>>133962410
>constitutional monarchy

>>133961749
republics and liberal democracy get corrupt and degenerate, far more than any monarchy.

>>133962560
And what would you do if the Heir of Solomon will be retarded and degenerate?

>>133960541
t. Rothschild

>>133962794
>communist china
Interesting how they've been making their economy more and more capitalist for years, and only now are they a major player on the world stage

>>133963142
Have the Senate enact an emergency-only procedure of removing him from rule

>>133961911
>>133962266
>Yes it could
>no it couldnt
Continues for all eternity, it's like you are five year olds arguing about the rules of your made up game. You fuckers need to go back to preschool!

>>133963150
Yeah a banking cartel are big fans of no property rights and kings arbitrarily being able to nulify debts
That's why the whole world has gotten more monarchical over the last few centuries

>>133963142
Inept Monarchs have been routinely replaced, take Ludwig II of Bavaria for example. Or Carlos II of Spain, whom everyone likes to use as an anti-monarchial example. Only the Kingdom was aptly administered by advisors and regents during his reign, and following his death, a member of the House of Bourbon assumed the throne, and is the House that still rules Spain today.

>>133963242
It's constitutional monarchy. When senate rules or constitution considered to be stronger that monarch will. The Romanov's were known for opposing constitutional monarchy. If you would posted Winsdor's picture it would be more relevant.

>>133960541
True. Monarchist flag when?

>>133963466
Hopefully soon

>>133963466
I think yours is as close as we get. Too bed it gets used by protestant anarchist fags just to virtue signal that they dislike Muslims.

>>133960541
>why should this person be in charge?
>uh.... their parent did it?
>what if they're retarded?
>lol idk its traditional though lol

good idea

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Monarchism is, and has always been, the best system of governance

WW1 was a fucking disgrace and guess what people is behind it

>>133963612
(((people)))

>>133963571
Would you prefer a Caliph Ahmed?

>>133963440
Wasn't it Franco who let them be?

>>133963684
He would prefer Sikh Khan or something like that elected because its 2017 and we need more brown stains in the government

>>133963684
He's probably a republicuck

>>133962476
Are you sure about that? The commies aren't in charge of the economics, yet, but they certainly control almost everything else in a lot of countries. Flag related.

>>133963571
>why should this person inherit his parents money
>uh... because their parents left them it?
>what if they are retarded
>lol idk its traditional though lol
saged

>>133963775
He established the legitimate heir to the Kingdom as his successor, yes. Good man.

>>133961636
Didn't the commies kill off the Romanovs?

>>133964210
Hemos pasado!

>>133960541
true. democracy is a lie created by the aristocracy to overthrow monarchs because the king is the only true representative of the people and check on aristocratic excess.

>>133964262
They killed off the immediate royal family, yet heirs survive

>>133963142
replacing a king is much easier then replacing the entire aristocracy

>>133961636
Did you know that Stroganoff dishes are named after Romanovs? Small things like that make me tingly about monarchism and houses

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Yeah monarchies are fucking great...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain

>>133964677
Yes faggot, we all know about Carlos II of Spain. Read my earlier post.

>>133961911

Fuck up u stupid cunt. Monarchy is dead. The days men living under the heel of some family of cunts is over.

>>133963571
>why should this person be in charge?
>uh... because they're funny and charming?
>what if they're retarded?
>lol idk he's got a good personality though lol
compared to someone who has been trained their whole life to be able to rule a country

>>133964566
Is that what democrats doing right now? :)

As for topic. It doesn't matter what form of government you create in Russia - it always ends up with corrupted despoty with feudal elements. Thus I do not strongly support any sides.

>>133960541
Everyone knows that

>>133962409
>For God, King, and country!"

>>133962897
Liechtenstein
Japan

>>133963642
I think he's referring to Serbs

>>133962923
Doesn't even have an army lol

>>133964793

Americans arguing for monarchy is just about the saddest most cucked thing I've ever seen on this board. Sad!

>>133963142
The nature of monarchy is that the monarch isn't absolute: aristocrats and the Church can make sure a bad king does a lot less damage in 20 years than a bad prime minister can do in 10 months.
Besides, monarchies tend to be such that kings have a lot *less* power over the common man than a president or prime minister!

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Post Monarchism contribution to architecture

>>133960541
This is how you sound: "Please, please make me a slave"

>>133963466
Deus Vult is as close as we have

>>133965206
oh fuck off, krauts weren't supposed to have an army after WWI and look what happened
Japan is world top3 navy-wise

>>133964939

Typical underfoot brit. A man is captain of his own destiny. We don't take orders from a family of inbreds.

>>133962561

Sounds like a empty platitude a professional "intellectual" would say

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Yeah, and that's why we want it back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDzrcPp-L4E

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>>133965405
A man is his own destiny? That's the most laughable shit I've heard, sounds like it came straight out of Disney

>>133962794
>Communist China could rape the British Monarchy

There are boundless oceans which your skull carries weight, and no life to be find therein.

If we're talking Mao era then New Zealand would have a good shot.

If we're talking modern day, they're more a defensive focused military and while strengthened by land mass, aren't true Communists anyway, and would have the Indian military and MARCOS on their case seconds after the flashpoint, considering they're so enticed by their military expansion that they patrol Indian land without permission.

>>133965405
No you take orders from the turncoat 'based god emperor' instead

>>133962794
>communist china
Hmm...

>>133963433
Israel was instated by the Rothschild's. Their coat of arms is on the flag. Its there country basically

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>>133963571
Monarchy
>Why should this person be in charge?
>Because he was raised from birth with the knowledge that he will be personally responsible for running the nation; his entire life has been focused on preparing to be ruler. If the nation prospers, he prospers; if it suffers, he suffers; if he loses power his children are paupers or dead.
Democracy
>Why should this person be in charge?
>They won a popularity contest where they manipulated the rpess with money and lies and won votes by promising to use the nation's treasury to give gifts and power to his supporters. He was almost certainly from an upper-middle-class family and his only experience in leadership was as a mid-level politician. If he screws up completely he stays rich (or gets richer!) and his performance will have no impact on his children except to make them famous and rich

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>>133964793
So if a monarch gets deposed, its not really a monarchy is it.


Besides, monarchs rule by divine right, so if a monarch is a inbred retard. well that's God's well so you little subjects should just fucking deal with it and support him. Sorry about your luck

>>133965532

This is coming from a GOT larper. Gtfo before we nuke you're country to glass boy.

>>133965397
The difference is Germany wasn't cycled and had an army anyway. Grorious Nippon on the other hand...

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>>133964939
>>133965632
Good answers

>>133965719
Off yourself senpai, democracy is a sham and in heavy decline

>>133965672
It still is a monarchy, the institution is preserved!

>>133965268
go back to your bipartisan attempts to emulate the NHS while you let the press beat you like a rented mule, burgerlad

>>133965268
The person who would choose the fucking GOP elephant as his flag is about as ZOGed as they come

>>133965318
I'm going To call bullshit on that one. Just because the time period in which prime ministers existed rulers have more capabilities due to technology doesn't mean that they had more power than a monarch. The main benefits of monarchy were social not functional.

>>133965330
Ever see the UN analysis of freedom in Europe? It was well covered in the news.
It boiled down to the fact that citizens of monarchies have less surveillance, more personal and more economic freedom that citizens of democracies. The more Monarchical and less Democratic a nation the more free and private its citizens are.
Democracy is a sheep and 3 wolves voting on what to have for dinner.

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>>133965582

Trump will eventually not be president. The presidency won't be handed down to his children automatically. If we ever get sick of him, he's gone and we have a constitution that limits all of his powers. I am still a free man, not a subject. You pathetic bits can't see how enslaved you truly are.

>>133965962
I haven't seen it. Do you have a link?

>>133964983
>always ends up with corrupted despoty with feudal elements
this is natural human condition. why fight it.

>>133965672
>So if a monarch gets deposed, its not really a monarchy is it.
What?! That makes no....
OOOOOOHHHHH! It was posted by an American!
Good old American education....

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>>133965962
That's because democracy is a soft form of communism. That is how communism would be functioning basically, by popular vote

You always fall prey to the majority

If you want to become a succesful architect, clockmaker, blacksmith or any other craft, you would have waaaaay more freedom within a monarchy than a democracy

>>133965632

>muh tabula rasa

You might as well as argue that race is a social construct.

>>133966027
Hah, you think your elected officials really run shit. We're ruled by unelected (((entities)))

>>133960541
Having dynasty in power is close to inevitable due to how human society works. Even if you arent calling it monarchy. But its your choice if it's dynasty of your own race bound to country by blood and creed, or something like dynasty of transnational kike bankers who rule JewSA now and of whom most of population never knows.
But there is a problem with monarchy - if your current ruler isnt fitting to be one for various reason, you're fucked. Both of Russian dynasties collapsed this way.
>>133960743
Commies hadnt blocked shit, they just filled power vacuum that happened after state finally collapsed under its own fuckups.

>>133966027
>If we ever get sick of him, he's gone
trump is just a clown with no real power. you can get rid of him but you cant get rid of the people with real power.

>>133960541
>Ends up being the most degenerate, corrupt and decadent before pissed off peasant sweep it from the face of the earth.

>>133965780

Then let's fight about it. If you make it through the holocaust we reign down on you then you can kings and Queens all you want.

>>133965886

You are worse than the libs. Get fucked.

>>133966319
>Pissed off peasants
Stop believing this.

>>133965920
>rulers have more capabilities due to technology
Read a fucking book, burgerlad - there are monarchies NOW. All over the world. Look up your beloved 'freedom index' and see how monarchies top the lists of freedom of individuals, freedom from surveillance, economic freedom, etc. If you hide the type of government every Lolbertarian and Objectivist in 'Murica would be trying to move to Liechtenstein for the vast increase in freedom!
>The main benefits of monarchy were social not functional.
*how* big and entrenched are bureaucracies in democracies? An elected official passing out jobs to supporters makes sense - he ain't paying for it. A king, though, has that cost come out of his pocket!
King of Jordan wants to airstrike ISIS? No debate, just launch fighters!
In the meantime, how long has the US congress been trying to fix healthcare? 50 years? 60?
American presidents plan for 3 years at a time (from being elected to primary season).
Kings plan for their grandcholdren

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>>133966167
How do you possibly derive tabula rasa from that?

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>>133960541
Romanovs jewish pogroms when?

>>133965672
>monarchs rule by divine right
but also according to divine law so kings are governed by the same universal laws as a supposed democracy like America is.

The difference with fake democracy is that no one is accountable. With a king there is someone personally responsible for every action of government.

This is why American republic was created with "President" or pseudo-monarch. They were afraid the people would not accept a government without a king so they had to make a fake king in order to have their government accepted.

>>133966319
I don't really know about any European monarchic regime which was toppled by pissed off peasants. Maybe the Swiss war of independence counts as that, but it didn't really topple any monarchy just shook off Austrian rule. Could you tell me any historical example?

>>133966190

Get involved in politics then cunt. You have the power to change things. Don't sit around masterbating waiting for a saviour.

>>133960541
Carol II had Codreanu executed, boiled him in acid and buried in a prison and they did it because he was a fascist
Hitler had immense issues and feuds with the Prussian monarchy before and during NatSoc Germany.
When Franco died the king of Spain turned Spain into a liberal democratic shithole and now they've got Sweden-tier laws when it comes to divorce and women's rights.

Monarchism is the biggest bluepill of them all.

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>>133966711
>fascists not getting the way they want because of monarchs
I dont see an issue with this

>>133966076
google 'freedom and prosperity Liechtenstein'
[all attempts at links were spam to the Chan]
there is a Mises org article about it that mentions the various studies that show this

>>133966692
(((liberal democracy))) has proven itself to always end up the same, no thank you

>>133966027
>Trump will eventually not be president
Precisely the problem with democracy, if you do a shit or average job there's no repercussions and there's no incentive for working in the long term interests of your country because you can be kicked out within 5 years if you don't promise enough goodies

>>133966167
My position was the *opposite* of tabula rasa

>>133966666
>toppled by pissed off peasants
Peasants are incapable of organization so all overthrows are instigated by either foreign power or traitors or usually both in combination.

>>133966692
>You have the power to change things
Total drivel, you have no power to change anything because the only parties capable of winning powers are the ones back by billionaire (((businessmen))) and positions of power in those parties are only reserved for the people best at toeing the party line

>>133961653
>>133962266
why does it matter fucking commie (aka ligeral retard)
it's not like you can use your toys in our territory since Israel gave us their air defense system

>>133966871

Yeah, a king can also be shit as well. A landed gentry will form around the king as has been shown throughout all history. They'll conive to remain in their positions and keep their subjects in line as has always been the case.

Regicide is extremely rare. You say it's easy to replace a king etc if their doing a shit job. Yet history shows you how rarely this ever happens and the replacement is often even worse. Democracy has given unparalleled freedom and prosperity.get fucked you cunt.

>>133967125

Only in the UK where you are subjects to a queen anyway so what does it even matter.

>>133967326
Your country is more influenced by lobbying than mine is

>>133967326
Lmao yeah the queen is responsible for the political stalemate and the shitty degeneration of his people

>>133960541
I agree. Normies are monarchists at heart, they just don't realize it. They way they worship celebs and le god emperor Trump and Putin is proof that monarchy can work today.

Monarchy flag when mods

>>133962794
>china
>communist
good b8 made me reply

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>>133960541
Iturbide restoration when?

Braganza restoration when?

Mexico and Brazil, imperial brothers

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>>133962410
>Republican state with a """king"""

>>133962897
Japan and Saudi Arabia

I we're going to authoritarian, some sort of monarchism is the way to go. Kids these days have no respect for tradition.

Fucking monarchy. What are we now? Fucking primitives? Monarchy is and always be a primitive form of government. Cybercracy is the wave of the future. Machine not man will rule.

>>133968371
Japan's Emperor is a fucking figurehead you dumb motherfucker

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>>133960541
What if your monarch is a cuck

>>133966530
>>133966909

Your main argument is that a monarch is better than an elected leader because a monarch will be groomed for this responsibility from childhood. This completely ignores the fact that every person is born with natural traits and a personality that can't be changed.

People can become monarchs even if they are mentally ill and don't care about governance. A democratic leader on the other hand, has to earn their position, by being good a politics.

>>133969005
>by being good at politics
and that's good, how?

>>133969005
>>133969075
>This completely ignores the fact that every person is born with natural traits and a personality that can't be changed.
Hence why monarchs also are the most intelligent in any given society, thats how they got to their position to begin with

>People can become monarchs even if they are mentally ill and don't care about governance.
The king can choose his sucessor and if he notices his oldest son is a retard not fit for anything why would he give him the crown? Unless you suggest it runs in the family, then why wouldn't it have showed up in earlier generations?

>A democratic leader on the other hand, has to earn their position, by being good a politics.
This last statement is laughable, "by being good at politics". Yeah, basically give away freebies and goodies every 4th year to get re-elected not thinking ahead for the future at all

>>133969005
Monarchs were born and bred with superior genetics meant for ruling. In monarchy you marry into equally smart and powerful families, ensuring the royal bloodline is pure and enhanced. Sure theres the issue of inbreeding, but we know better now.

Democracy does not favor the strong, or the intellegent. Only those who get the masses riled up with lies, charisma and propaganda get elected, not good leaders. Just look at America and every democratic nation today, it's just a system that favors the corrupt rich appealing to the idiot masses creating oligarchs run by kikes.

Monarchy is pure. No money involved, just divine right. The nation is the monarch, and the monarch defends the nation like his own. An effective, strong nation is better for the population. The greatest minds knew this, like Caesar, that's why they formed the greatest empire ever seen til the british.

>>133969814
>In monarchy you marry into your own family and hope there are enough degrees of separation for retardation not to kick in

ftfy

>>133969911
Not necessarily true, marrying to other royal bloodlines was very very common

>>133968535
Yeah, he is king in constitutional monarchy, Nippon is still better than Western democracies though

>>133969814
>Monarchs were born and bred with superior genetics meant for ruling.
What sort of mythological world do you live in?

>>133969814
There is the inbreeding part of the monarchy DNA, but what really makes Monarchy superior form of government is the fact that the ruler is trained and educated from birth how to properly rule.
Another very important aspect of a monarchy is the fact that he cannot be bribed.

>>133970027
It is a stagnant pond that is slowly dying because it is filled with love-shy betas who don't have the energy to get laid because they are so fucking addicted to fapping off to anime much like /pol/

>>133970021
All royal bloodlines in Europe were highly connected by the 1800s at the latest.

>>133970148
You can educate people on how to properly rule without having a monarchy

>>133970376
Uh I dont know about that but there was some new blood coming in aswell, and some houses being raised to Nobility level all the time, it wasn't stale like you make it out to be

>>133969911
Every single european monarch was mixed with greek, german, english, russian, austrian, etc etc. Hardly inbred. You've watched too many movies.

>>133969607

Not every potential succesor might be retarded, but it is not guaranteed that they will be competent either. It's all a wildcard of genetics.

>>133969814

Wrong. Royal families are in fact plagued by inbreeding because that is the only way they can keep their status.

>>133971018
>wildcard of genetics
I don't think thats how genetics work

>>133970469
And how would you make sure they reach rulership? Remember, under democracy skills matter little.

>>133970116
Which one are you? Monarchy has been an effective system of government for thousands of years and brought much glory and innovation to Europe. The only reason it fell was because kikes and peasants were jealous and because of world wars which devastated europe. Ever since we've been without it, the West has been decaying and won't stop decaying until we bring true traditionalism back. Democracy, communism, republics, all are different tools for the jew to control you. The jew has no power over a king whos right to rule comes from christianity, an anti jewish religion.

>>133971315
I think in the future we should be rid of human rule forever. I would have us be governed by AI

>>133971235
By exams like they did in Ancient China, all those who wanted to enter into public services had to be tested

>>133971315
>Monarchy has been an effective system of government for thousands of years and brought much glory and innovation to Europe

Then how come the Dutch Republic was able to consistently humiliate kingdoms much larger than itself, to say nothing of what the United States has done in recent centuries?

How did monarchs consistently fail to put down both the French and the Russian Revolutions?

Monarchy was not necessarily effective, it was just the only way people could conceive of doing things for a very long time.

>>133971603
Meritocracies are hard to organize and would fall really quickly, it's overall a meme desu and has never been proven to wörk properly (like monarchies)

>>133971603
To be fair, they were tested on Confucian classics and poetry rather than skills relevant to governance.

>>133971669
Outside influences (jews)

>>133971709
Oh yeah China's civilization feel really quick like 5,000 years quick

>>133960541
Monarchy is not traditional. It's a modernist perversion from christcucked society.

>>133971603
That sounds like technocracy to me.

>>133971814
Bullshit! The Classics were more than just about poetry, they were about history, governance, warfare and other such things

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>>133961653
When goyim try to defeat the cousins of their (((soviet masters)))

>>133971872
Then how come monarchs consistently failed to combat the influence of Jews, despite many European countries kicking out their Jews over the course of history?

>>133971504
>(((AI)))

You mean ai censored and controlled by cucks and kikes? Ai that has no soul and will just be a kike on steroids enslaving and dumbing down humans via racemixing?

You watched too many movies mate. There might not even be AI if western society continues its downward spiral. We're ruled by the tyranny of the zombie masses, our culture is heavily anti science, we can't even admit obvious truths like racial differences in intelligence for christs sake. Where will we get the brains to develop AI that not only matches human intelect but surpasses it? Nowhere, absolute monarchy is the best we have if not fascism.

>>133971902
China was hardly ever the cradle of human progress (inb4 le golden age of china meme)

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>>133963571
>what if they're retarded?
if the monarch is incapable of ruling you have a regent who does it in his place

>>133960541

Only a slave yearns for a master.

>>133972216
/thread

>>133972043
Uh just because they eventually failed doesn't mean they didnt succeed a bunch of times, it's easy to look at the end result and thinking that's that

What if monarchies in Europe had existed for 5000 years, would you have said the same thing?

>>133964677
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_II_of_Spain
you know he didnt ruled spain right?

>>133972216
Better to be a slave to a european Christian taught to rule than jewish influenced "democratic" republics.

>>133972360
'Tis better to live free than to die as a slave

>>133972012
So what you're saying is that Confucianism is like any other ancient philosophy.

If you actually go and read the Analects, you see that the politics in it are very pie-in-the-sky idealized theory, talking about stuff like the relationships a man has to his king and his wife, etc. Knowing all that stuff doesn't prepare you for actual political or official life very much. It's like if Western countries selected officials based on how well they memorized Plato's Republic.

>>133969005

>a personality that can't be changed

You think you're born with the personality you had at 18 years old? Are you a nigger, sir?

>>133963065
True. Monarchies, especially if led by an individual of good moral character, is the best form of government. Republics and Democracies all eventually turn to the worst forms of degeneracy with decades.

>>133971709
Monarchy is just a degenerated form of national socialism.

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>>133972529
t. (((Hollywood)))

You will be ensured maximum freedom under a monarchy, thats for sure

>>133972607
Look what Peter the Great did for Russia

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>A reminder that Monarchy is the only legitimate ideology and form of government, all else is a corrupt, degenerate and anti traditional.
Can you imagine being so psychologically cucked that you HAVE to out a random family in charge and have them making decisions over every aspect of yours and your loved one's lives?
How can you possibly call yourself a man?

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>>133972901
>have them making decisions over every aspect of yours and your loved one's lives?
Read more about monarchy before you shitpost

>>133972292
>What if monarchies in Europe had existed for 5000 years, would you have said the same thing?

Monarchy as an institution has survived for 10k years. It is still unimpressive compared to what we have replaced it with.

>>133972972
He said monarchy, not constitutional monarchy.

>>133972901
>He prefers random people who gained popularity or who bought their way to rule over him
>He doesn't care about skills

>>133973026
Actually Hoppe adresses this argument in his book aswell

I can link the video if you want, it's 10 minutes long

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7392ShPZ9o

>>133973092
>He prefers random people who gained popularity or who bought their way to rule over him
At least I can become part if the opposition. Do you think that /pol/ would be allowed under an actual monarchy?
Regardless, all the flaws of democracy are part of the monarchic system, yet most of its perks are excluded.


>He doesn't care about skills
What?

>>133973078
And I will say the same thing, read about monarchism again. People had and still have a lot of freedoms within monarchies, it's not like the king will order you to wear these pants or do the laundry at this time of the day, the king mostly rules over production and societal planning, not over your everyday life (atleast historically)

>>133969005
>Your main argument
False - it was just the argument made.
>a monarch is better than an elected leader because a monarch will be groomed for this responsibility from childhood
Correct
>This completely ignores the fact that every person is born with natural traits
False. Person A may have a natural talent for, say, baseball while person B has no innate talent but has studied baseball, practiced baseball, etc. their entire life. Person A picks up pitching at age 25 and does a little bit in the minor leagues while person A has worked in and around baseball teams since infancy.
Who would you want running a team?
>a personality that can't be changed.
Ah. You're an irrationally strict naturalist. The idea that people cannot change their personality is either self-refuting or trivial depending on how you mean it.

>People can become monarchs even if they are mentally ill and don't care about governance.
Potentially, in some systems. But they will have a limited impact because of the nature of monarchy.
>A democratic leader on the other hand, has to earn their position, by being good a politics.
Almost certainly not the case.
Please read The Myth of the Rational Voter - voting is not a rational activity (as clearly demonstrated by the Sorites Paradox and Arrow's Impossibility Theorem). Politicians gain office by the process of emotional bandwagoning, not by any true skill.

>>133973297
The point is that in the long run you have no control over it, neither you can make any sensible prediction. You need a dickhead in the succession line to ruin the lives of an entire nation, and every possible solution to such a problem damages the temporal and material power of the monarchic system

Basically, you guys are LARPing, you merely like the idea of a monarchy.

>>133973686
Obama ruined everything and they did nothing to remove him.

>>133960743
Rape time....

>>133972529
You think you're free? LOL. Are you free to say niggers are subhhuman bunch of criminals? Free to live in a white country without migrant invaders? Free to name the jew in public? Free to be elected in power and do what needs to be done to save western socoety without backlash from cuck mass media? Nope. You're a fucking slave of the kikes and you don't even know you're saying exactly what they want you to say. Good goy.

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>>133973686
>The point is that in the long run you have no control over it
Wrong once again, are you reading what I'm replying to you or not?
>You need a dickhead in the succession line to ruin the lives of an entire nation
Why are you assuming he will be a dickhead or that he will ruin the lives of the nation? Have you read a single thing about monarchies beyond jewish media?
>and every possible solution to such a problem damages the temporal and material power of the monarchic system
And the same applies to democracy, this isn't exclusive to monarchies. Bad leaders = bad for the economy
>Basically, you guys are LARPing, you merely like the idea of a monarchy.
Sure, everyone on this site is LARPing

>>133963612
Gypsies? I don't think so...

>>133973828
8 years later he has no saying anymore. If it were to be a monarchy, the world would have had to deal with him for decades (unless someone decides to murder him, which directly damages in a obscene way the monarchic ideal).

>>133972901
>have them making decisions over every aspect of yours and your loved one's lives?
do you really thing a monarch has nothing better to do than micromanage your life?

>>133961081
Never

>>133974193
Depends if said monarch has a theocratic bent to him, and history attest some of them did

>>133973959
>Wrong once again, are you reading what I'm replying to you or not?
You have told me to read about it, yet I have already done it.


>Why are you assuming he will be a dickhead or that he will ruin the lives of the nation? Have you read a single thing about monarchies beyond jewish media?

Maybe because there are countless of such examples? Maybe because virtually every great monarch in hustory was succeded by complete retards, virtually every single time, no matter the century we're in or the country we're talking about?


>And the same applies to democracy, this isn't exclusive to monarchies. Bad leaders = bad for the economy
Bad leaders can operate usually for 5 to 10 years at most (otherwise they're dictators), and exceptionalky bad leaders can be impeached in most developed countries. This does not make for a perfect sustem, but at the very least you can kick crazy uncoherent madmen outside of the Parliament.

>Sure, everyone on this site is LARPing

Very few monarchists are actually willing to live as lower classes, and to have their children slaughtered in trivial wars based on noblemen's quarrels. You guys always imagine yourselves in the upper class.

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Reminder, this is the king of Thailand.

Posting this pic probably gets 4chan banned in Thailand.

>>133974569
Outside of wars, monarchs have had little influence on people lives beyond taxation, monarchs dont micromanage its citizens life, they are too busy with planning things like roads buildings etc

There are hardly "countless" examples of bad monarchs, I'd say the bad ones you hear are very few, the good ones you hear of are a bit more and the neutral ones that did little are "countless"

I obviously wouldn't want to be willingly be a lower class for the fun of it, I'd want to be it because I think you have more potential within a monarchic system than a democratic liberal one

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>>133960541
>the kike tells you what ideology is legitimate as he rests assured in the safety of his ethnonationalist homeland

Always remember folks! (pic related)

>>133975788
Happy to say that I am not socially obligated to bow or speak reverently to any one of those classes of people when they pass me in the street. Nor do I get arrested when I shittalk them.

>>133960541


fuck you bitch nigger. I refuse to support the degeneracy of some inbreeding fucktards.

>be tsar
>get caught cuked by Jews
>get shot

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>muh monarchy

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>>133981051
Kiss me! Your king demands it!

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>>133981154
my bloodline is pure

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>>133981224
Urggghh I am your king nauughhhwww

>>133960541
i agree

>>133960541
The Roman Republic predates all European monarchies.

>>133981468
>The Roman Republic predates all European monarchies.
the Roman Kingdom predates The Roman Republic

>>133981051
Stop bully poor Charlie!>>133981154
>>133981291

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Bend down, Jew girl

>>133971669
A lucky combination of effective natural defenses, enemies whose countries were in turmoil, and a some of the greatest admirals the world has ever seen. The Republic's dominance ended with the English Civil War, when the Brits could focus on expansion and made it unprofitable for Dutchmen to trade in their ports.

>>133977551
Yeah, but you must admit a role model who is socially obliged to not make an ass out of themselves is a better alternative than the fucking Kardashians.

>>133981468
every city state in europe was a monarchy at some point

>>133963571
>Right, let's allow the jews to swing an african niggro into office instead of being ruled by a fellow european who is more likely to have similar interests
Your probably the type that thinks he's been cheated unless a born and raised poorfag is put in charge of your country and allowed to wreck its economy and national goals. Scum like you make me sick. Monarchy is race realism personified.

LARPing faggots

>>133971217
Pair the same Y chromosome with enough Xs and you'll eventually get two nasty recessive genes to line up. This is how a lot of birth defects and mental illnesses happen.
The odds go up a lot if you fuck your cousin and a shit ton if you fuck your sister because now not only the Y chromosome is coming from the royal family but the X chromosome is too.
You should read into genetics, it's fascinating stuff.

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>>133960541
Indeed. God save the Tsar. And Celestia.

>>133960541
Monarchy is objectively the worst form of government.

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Lol, no.

99.9% of all successful corporations im the world are monarchies, they just call the king "CEO"

Monarchy is about undivided sovereignty; it doesn't necessarily have to be hereditary.