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When did you grow out of Chrstianity? 14 for me.

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When did you grow out of Chrstianity? 14 for me.
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>>133936394
When did you grow out of atheism? 18 for me.
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>>133936394
Daily reminder that atheism is the ultimate blind faith in bullshit.
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>>133936877

lol that picture
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>>133936672
fpbp
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>>133936394
so probably around 28 you will come back crawling
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>>133936672
>>133936877

>worships a dead rabbi
>claims to be pro-Western
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>>133936672
17 for me. Left it during high school, and converted to non-denominational Christianity.
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>>133937167
You're still a Christfag, Christfag.
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>>133936394
16 I think.

Then I was an atheist for a couple years.

By 19 I was agnostic, and recognize the value that religion can have. I'm just not spiritual.

Christianity is a globalist disease.
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>>133936394
I grew out of any religion when I was 5 and my pastor raped me.
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>>133936672
Took me till 23. Wouldn't say I'm religious but I definitely understand the importance of if and the bleak future that would follow without it.
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>>133936394
17 or 18. I grew back into it at 29 when I realized that every type of degenerate in society from SJW's to feminists to marxists to libcucks to antifa are atheist. Believing in imaginary sky wizards is the lesser evil.
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Grade 3
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>>133937694
>imaginary sky wizards

You're still an atheist. You are LARPing as a Christfag because people you don't like LARP as Marxists.

You're basically a massive fucking faggot cuck.
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>>133936394
You dont grow out of christ, fucking faggot.
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>>133936394
I grew out of being Baptist/Methodist at an early age. Roughly 9-11. I became Catholic around 21-22. I, and my family, treat it as a different religion entirely.
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>>133937973
I'm not an atheist, anon. I just don't believe in the idea of a personal God. With that said I promote Christian values and Christianity for the sole purpose of its utility within western civilization.
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>>133938082
>I just don't believe in the idea of a personal God.

That's atheism. Deism is not theism.

>I'm gonna LARP as a Christfag because of ethics in video game journalism.

Imagine being this gay.
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>>133936394
Since i was a kid I never liked religion and avoided church like turks avoid integration in this country.
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>>133937055
Pic for you.

>>133938148
Deism is a form of theism.
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>>133936394
>Le 14 ans old
>obviously not trying to be an edgey faggot teenager
>like, ugh, obviously
>ya know?
Goes in all fields.
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>>133938187
Given your country this is the normal cultural view to be raised in there.
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>>133936672
Grew out of it at 16
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>>133938188
Deism is not a form of theism. I'm not going to try to explain why, because you are an American and therefore too stupid to understand why.
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>>133938082
So you support the fact that the west only prospered when it adopted a semetic religion, semetic culture, and semetic ideals?
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>>133938148
>That's atheism. Deism is not theism.

noun
1. belief in the existence of a God on the evidence of reason and nature only, with rejection of supernatural revelation (distinguished from theism).
>belief in the existence of a God
>belief in ... God

>I'm gonna LARP as a Christfag because of ethics in video game journalism.
The fuck are you on about? I haven't played video games since the Wii was new.
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>>133938329
>>133938082
>christcucks actually believe this
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>>133936394
Raised without it. Parents were not religious and did not teach me, but did not badmouth religion. By the time my period started talking about religion to me, it just sounded so silly, like adventure book
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15
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>>133938229
Except that I'm a 28 year old american that has lived his childhood in italy and has been living for 15 years in germany.
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>>133938329
Equating Jesus with your muh Jews conspiracy just makes you look like a low IQ idiot.
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>>133938308
Okay. Well at least you know better now. Glad I could assist.

>>133938372
You've been missing out. There've been a lot of good games since then.

>>133938329
see
>>133938188


>>133938445
WELL nevermind then.
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>>133936394
14 too
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I grew out of it at a young age, but now I'm getting back in touch with it.
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>>133938458
If you actually knew anything about Christianity instead of being a larper you'd know you've become a slave to globalism and jews.
You basically have to give up your racial identity and love all Christians equally (hello spics and niggers) over non Christian whites.
And according to the Bible, Jesus will only return when the temple of Jerusalem is rebuilt by the Israelites and their homeland is returned to them.
You know why western countries are such cucks for Israel? Christianity.
But enjoy larping while your white ancestors who fought against this cancerous semetic religion roll in their graves.
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>>133936672
21
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Butthurt crosscucks stay mad and stop hiding behind your templar flags.
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>>133938647
Your brain starts to shrink after 25 so that's understandable.

>>133938591
Were you Catholic too? Papists are all over hell.
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>>133936877
Creatio ex nihilo is a Christian doctrine, not an atheist one.
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>>133938719
>If you actually knew anything about Christianity instead of being a larper
I was raised in a highly religious home.

>You basically have to give up your racial identity and love all Christians equally (hello spics and niggers) over non Christian whites.
Actually Christianity teaches you to love everyone equally, irrespective of race or religion. That's pretty fucking basic stuff.

If Christianity was part of your Jew conspiracy then we would be seeing Jews promoting Christianity left and right instead of fighting it and trying to destroy Christian values. You're probably a kike yourself.
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>>133938920
I'm not even 20 yet, kike
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>>133938920
r/atheism please go
We had dealt with the arrogant and ignorant atheists on /pol/ between 2013 and 2015. Just because you came with the election doesn't give you justification to act like a dumbass.
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>>133936672
21.
Realised the importance of faith, but am still searching. Went to a catholic school so I'm highly interested there though.
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>>133939023
>I was raised in a highly religious home.
doubts.jpg
>Actually Christianity teaches you to love everyone equally, irrespective of race or religion. That's pretty fucking basic stuff.
And yet that's the exact opposite of right wing ideology.
>If Christianity was part of your Jew conspiracy then we would be seeing Jews promoting Christianity left and right instead of fighting it and trying to destroy Christian values.
>Jews fighting and destroying Christianity
Oh im laffin.
And since you didn't refute anything I actually said I assume you know what I said is true.
>You're probably a kike yourself
Ahh yes, the classic "everyone I don't agree with is a Jew" tactic.
And didn't you just say Christianity teaches you to love everyone equally, irrespective of race or religion? Why the hate for Jews then cuckboy?
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>>133939363
The Jews are a forsaken people since they corraborated in killing the Lord. For the last 2000 years they have mocked Him. Even the muslims show reverence toward Christ.
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>>133938920
>Were you Catholic too
yeah
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>>133939363
>And yet that's the exact opposite of right wing ideology.
I don't see how. My beliefs don't require me to hate others. I just prioritize the well-being of my own people. You can love a tiger without letting it into your home and trying to keep it as a pet.

>Oh im laffin.
Oh so your claim is that Jews promote Christianity and Christian values? I'm just going to stop responding to your obvious bat.
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>>133939644
>bat
*bait
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>>133939363
>And yet that's the exact opposite of right wing ideology.

"Right wing ideology" doesn't reject human rights and human dignity. It only knows that they are best within their group and so promote that for themselves and others.
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>>133938188
I can see a big flaw with that anon's argument. He states in reference to Yeshua being a kike:

>It's worshiping God. Who happened to take the form of a man...

But Jews aren't human and thus can't be men. They're parasites.
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>>133939878
Well without getting into an argument about how ridiculous the claim of their species is, that isn't a fault in argument as much as it is a semantic issue.
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>>133940072
>Autism: The Post

It was a joke anon. But seriously Jews are parasitic in nature.
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>>133940127
It's 5am here. I'm struggling to keep awake, honestly.
And when in reference to Jews do you mean biologically or by ethnicity?
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>>133936672
>if you dont worship elohim snd yeshus have semites as holy prophets have semitic book as holy truth and wordhip a Jee you mudt be a Godless Atheist or a psgan
I sm monotheist but not of the Semite worshippping profession, Whites are to educated and informed to misguidedly be fooled by kikestruans to think christianity is white.

White men fought kikestrisns who were litersl rabis and banned them from Europe to spread their poison, 1000 years of kikestrianity too many.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=36NqK0kfcvg>>133936877
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I was an atheist until I was around 7 or 8 years old, until then I kept thinking religion was just people hoping for something because they were afraid of the inevitable nothingness

Then I decided to pray for god to grant me things. And things started happening. I kept having my prayers answered even tho they were silly kid stuff. After a while I realized I couldnt get everything I wanted but if I wanted something strong enogh and long enough it was like reality warped itself due to autism and gave me what I wanted

Unfortunately I was a dumb kid and asked for the wrong things. But ever since I was around 15 I can say unequivocally that I I was living the life I had asked God. I just didnt knew back then how this whole asking thing wanted. Maybe I should have asked God for my dad to come live back home, instead I asked for easy life, videogames and friends to play them with.

God granted me that, but I still suffered, I didnt knew what I needed, so I kept seeking things to fill this void, and they kept appearing.

At some point I realized that I was living exacly the life I had asked for. And it sucked. So I refined my thinking, now much more mature and aware of the dangers of being a neet pothead. So I created a new vision for my life, and slowly but surely my life is warping into that.

Over my existence I have been induced to see God in a certain way, but I think its inevitable, after sufficient knowledge of the human mind to see religion as a human construct that limits us in their ideological thinking on our pursuit of God.

I feel there is a touch of love in divinity. A touch of grace. But there is no way things should be. There is no one bearded man in heaven, who knows the meaning of life. The one truth I believe is that it is our purpose, and our destiny to give purpose to creation.

We, humans, are the masters of our own destiny. But we need to understand how the universe works, and how to tap into the divine, to truly unlock our full potential!
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>>133936672
I was an agnostic theist until I became 18 this year.
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>>133939480
And yet Jesus said to love the Jews, and real Christians love Jews and have undying support for Israel because they believe that Jesus will return by the Israelites reclaiming their land and rebuilding the temple.
>>133939644
>I just prioritize the well-being of my own people
According to Christianity, that's all Christians, not whites. So open your borders to the spics and niggers like Jesus commanded you too :^)
>Oh so your claim is that Jews promote Christianity and Christian values? I'm just going to stop responding to your obvious bat.
Yup. Funny I know more about Christianity than you do. Oh wait you're a larper who doesn't know shit about Christianity. No surprise.
>>133939728
>It only knows that they are best within their group
And according to Christianity that group is Christians, not whites.
So again, you must love those Christian spics and niggers. Time to open the border for your christian brothers xD
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>>133940322
The reason the Church banned the kike book 9f the Bible is because the people would realize what this fsith is about, giving divinity authority snd power to kiked.

No proud white man would worship a semite.
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>>133936394
>visit rekt thread
>realize D-g either doesn't exist or has abandoned us long time ago
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>>133940776
>equating God with Kikestrisnity
>if you dont believe in Kikes suthority you must not velieve in God
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>>133940665
>And according to Christianity that group is Christians, not whites.

Christianity makes no reservations about groups within humanity. It speaks of humanity as a whole, not in regard to race one way or another besides being against racism. But that should be obvious as racism refers to prejudice in regards to race, which is separate from what we are talking about.

Any issues?
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>>133940205
I mean economically; they never create tangible things, everything they create is ephemeral. Sociologically; even all their intellectual works are derivative. Culturally; They took the worst aspects of their derivative Canaanitic religion and mixed it with Babylonian mysticism. Historically; they never tell the truth and add God to stories post factum. Won a battle? (((God))) did it. We lost a battle? All part of (((God's))) plan for the chosen people. This makes them the world's worst historians. Linguistically; well this is obvious. No Jewish culture has ever produced an authentic language after their "separation" (see: forced conversion or killing) from their Canaanite brothers.


There's just too much to cover but these are some bullet points.
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>>133936394
>tfw raised by a catholic priest dad(still a believer) and an ex-commie history teacher mom
>raised on the moral values of christianity from a secular point of view and with historic and cultural comparison, contrast and debate
>politics also discussed never imposed
Feels good not to be a political white board that falls for a meme ideology by 14, unable to comprehend the way the world works
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>>133941107
Solid.

But wait
>priest dad
Eastern Catholic or did he just get ordained late?
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>>133937378
This. Organised religion is for brainlets, literally a cancer. Spirituality is okay. Agnosticism is the only logical point of view.
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>>133941271
Straight up mainstream Reddit bullshit.
Can't even figure out what mythology is.
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>>133941271
No, fuck off faggot, organized religion is good, kike worshipping is bad.

I hate this meme that if you oppose the triple demites of kikestrianity, islam, and judaism you must be an atheist, or tree worshipping pagan, I am a monotheist but my God is not one that spoke to Jews.
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Oh it’s another one of these threads.
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>>133941212
>1966 ordained as a Roman catholic priest
>He still preached and held mass until the late 80s
>met my mother at a high school while teaching religion
>Didn't want to leave the church, so he made a deal with the archbishop in order not to resign to his faith but be able to marry
>got married in 1990, I was born in 93
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>>133941435
Who's your God, out of curiosity? Please don't say Kek.
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>>133941473
Very nice.
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>"M’lady of course I reject the religion of Christianity. I’m an intellectual freethinker free from Jewish influence."
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>>133936394
18. Sister invited me to a rave and offered me ecstasy, dunno why but it took less than a second for me to mull it over and say yes. Also drank rum while i was driving us all down there and one of her friends held a bong up for me and lit it so i didnt have to take my hands off the wheel.

Still love jesus n all, but meh
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>>133941559
>tips cross
>throws holy water
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>>133936394
I grew "out of" Christianity with 12, but I grew "back in" with 25.
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>>133941534
God.
The obe true God that created my people and gave us our purpose to exist live snd thus expand to do what is good for the race he has created.
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>>133936394
I was raised Catholic but turned apatheist at 13.
I can't prove or disprove a deity, but I also can't care less.
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>>133941559
An image for you to save.
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>>133941457
where people discuss why they don't suck the flaccid cock of a dead kike on a stick?
sorry for not being retarded
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>>133941674
Pic related: you.
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>>133941651
The one true God would never speak to semites.
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>>133936394
>preaches against our lord and saviour
>looses both wars
Top fucking Kek, christ is with us, accept it or perish.
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>>133936394
>Ludendorf raving about how "international" christianity is.

kek maybe if the rulers during WW1 were a bit more international the war wouldnt have happened.

Im not even christian but praising the generation of leaders who grinded the continent into the ground for their brand of nationalism is retarded.

And yes, they had a choice the escalation could have been stopped at any stage in 1914 but the morons were pushing for it. That serb assasin was just a pretext, incidents like that happened all the time in Europe. We were throwing bombs at Tsars throughout the XIX century.
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>>133941674
+1
If you are white and worship semitic prophetdms and semitic God you are a slave and traitor to truth, your race.
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>>133941813
This. I find it funny how retards quote Hitler or Himmler in defense of pagansim/atheism, but they lost the war and drove Germany to the brink of extinction.
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>>133941744
6'4" blonde aryan with a full time job and nine healthy children here, nice try though shekelstein
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>>133941829
>Ludendorf raving about how "international" christianity is.

You missed the best part.
>first sentence say it's Jewish
>second sentence say its international

It's ridiculous. I'm out.
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>"M’lady i’m not an ignoramus. I don’t believe in anything without evidence like those religious buffoons. I believe that God doesn’t exist like a true gentleman and a scholar."
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>>133941813
>looses both wars
It's the west the one who lost the war. If christ is with us why is your country a caliphate now? Seems that Alah is with them.
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>>133936394
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>"M’lady Jesus was an ethnic Jew."
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>>133941934
so what, antisemitism was normal then. It was about as insightful as calling yourself an atheist in modern Sweden. And I didnt miss it, I was laughing precisely at the "international" bit given the context as I wrote.
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>>133936394
15 for me.
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>>133941872
Disobey Christ, lose your life
>>133941970
>the west means Germanic domination
Nope, we, like the romans will always do what is necessary to hurt Germany, the more Germany suffers the more the west should prevail
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thanks chr*stians, your generosity is a sight to behold.
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>Plays Skyrim once
>"M’lady I for one am a Neo-pagan like my glorious viking ancestors."
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>>133942257
Doesn't even make much sense unless he converted to the religion of Tamriel or something
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>>133942194
Keep telling yourself that. Don't cry when Ahmed rapes your daughter when she comes back home from school.
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>>133942247
chrostians are only part of the problem. The other one is secular liberals.
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>>133936394

Not until today.

But tbqh since you basically just took the easy road never actually bothered reading the bible and ancient texts- how can I even argue with you?

Especially the story of the demons and one's inner struggle (intersection of judaism and christianity) is VERY revealing/eye opening. Once you start taking the look inside - figuring out where did I go wrong? Instead of only blaming others for your misery.
>>133936672
fpbp
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thanks chr*stians, for uniting Europe. The last eight centuries of peace and prosperity in Europe make me grateful for the purging of Roman pagan priests and the destruction of countless temples and libraries.
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>>133942194
>Disobey Christ, lose your life

This. I love how Romans 6:23 applies to both this life and the next.
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>>133942345

secular liberals seldom donate anything to anyone, because they have almost no capital and live off handouts themselves. A handful of worthless actors and "comedians" talking about how black lives matter does not make the African population boom like that, it's the trillions of dollars in handouts from cucklicks and prostatants.
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Just a reminder that your boomer parents disagree with your antisemitism and racism, and wish that for once in your life you would actually step inside a church and learn their egalitarian worldview so you can save your soul.
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Christianity was so cucked at the beginning that the Church had to change it to be more pagan so that Europe would accept it, with the concept of patron saints and veneration of Mary etc effectively serving as a makeshift pantheon.
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>>133942340
>muh Ahmed xDDD
Wow, you really proved a point!!
>>133942413
The pagans don't realise we're here not to destroy them, but save them from sin so they may live eternal in the kingdom of heaven
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>>133942383
what the hell are you raving about?
There were permanent intra-european wars before and after christianity. How was paganism better?

And christians maintained their own libraries in place of the ones they destroyed.

I am not a christian but pagan crying is annoying. According to your own philosophy christianity was stronger so it won and that is right.
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>>133937055
>christian monks translated and kept alive literature that would've been lost because of pagan invaders
>NOT PRO WESTERN
this is how far we've fallen from the Glory of Rome.
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>>133942462
secular progressives run the entire beaurocracies of the western world, the UN etc. They transfer hundreds of billions to niggers (of course the dont donate their own money) and enable the flood to Europe because they run the EU.
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Christianity is a proto-bolshevik faith, one of only two internationalist religions, the other being Islam. I thank my good comrades the Christians in fighting the good fight to collectivize property, after all, Christ's most favored followers had no family and no property, and existed only to serve him.
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I recently started believing in God again due figuring out pretty much first hand that the ruling party is indeed Satanist.

The likelihood of an antichrist springing up from the kahballist Jews and uniting the world in a one world religion via congruence between the sephirots and eastern/new age chakra/yoga seems alarmingly possible.

The masons have a similar belief system that I believe to share things in common with the old b'al worship from the biblical burnt offering story involving the three children cast into the flames for refusing to worship the cananite diety at the time *potentially Moloch?*
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>>133942608

Pagans did not fight over religion, there were political power struggles and blood feuds as always, however the fighting escalated after Christianity. To imply that the dark ages (which began prior to the plague), and the fall of Rome, totally had nothing to do with the Christianization of Europe is retarded.

>According to your own philosophy christianity was stronger so it won and that is right.

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>>133942769
>Christianity is a proto-bolshevik faith,

Why werent the middle ages communist then? The most christian period in Europe by far.

You are mindlessly repeating memes.
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>>133942831
I deny any semitic Gods or demons exist.

Japan crucified all the kikestrians and what did they gain?
#1 coumtry in eorld 0 jewd 0 jews in power 100% japanese and pro jspanese sentiment un culture and spirit from not submitting to Jewish suthority from their kike books.
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>>133942731

>They transfer hundreds of billions to niggers (of course the dont donate their own money) and enable the flood to Europe because they run the EU.

The migrant crisis and Christian foreign welfare run hand in hand. There would be no massive African population, and depletion of local food resources if there were no hand outs, and there would be no hand outs if there were no Christians. The facilitation of African migration into Europe and this population boom/eternal strife in Africa are the result of both influences (Jewish financiers and Christians who send their hard earned money to keep this bottomless pool of Africans fed)
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>>133937507
>molested as a kid
>gay as an adult
Remember that molesting kids is the way faggots reproduce
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>>133942896
>the fall of Rome, totally had nothing to do with the Christianization of Europe is retarded.

It actually didnt as you can tell by how the Eastern empire (also christian) was doing. The Western empire was rotten to the core so it collapsed. The barbarian kingdoms that replaced it were also christian.

You are right that Christianity invented religious war. The "power struggles" of pagans were incredibly bloody though. Caesar's conquest of Gaul had a death toll in millions.(concider the population at the time)
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>>133942911

>Why werent the middle ages communist then?

The early Christians did not follow Christ's teachings to the letter. Nobody gave up their property, as Christ instructed, bar a few monks who spent their lives living as paupers in communes (sound familiar?)
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>>133942896
pagans fought because they were barbarians who had to fucking idea why they even existed. Christians were intellectuals and have always been people worth more than your tree worshipping faggot.
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>>133936932
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>>133936877
Atheists don't believe the nothing part. They believe that before the big bang, there is no possible way to know how things were. They don't know, this is different than viewing in magic. Magic like turning dirt into men and his rib into women.

>misunderstanding science and listening to dumb atheists proves christianity
>tithe, pro-Israel, true redpill
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>>133943072
You are right that christians help it (look at the pope) But how can you not see secular progressives and think its just "comedians" ?Thats literally the entire political establishment of the West except maybe Bannon. They are a major force.
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>>133943135
And you didnt notice that you invalidated your own initial claim right?
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I'm hoping to get back in it.
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Mary was no virgin.
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>>133943412
>wordhippinh kikes
You csn believe in God while not believing in kikes God.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=36NqK0kfcvg
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>>133943130

>The barbarian kingdoms that replaced it were also Christian

My point exactly. Later on the Catholics during the crusades would commit so many atrocities to the Orthodox eastern empire that Constantinople fell easily into the hands of the Turks. So how's that: Christians sack Rome, Rome falls, Christians sack Byzantium, the Byzantine empire falls. What a coincidence.

>>133943152

>pagans fought because they were barbarians who had to fucking idea why they even existed

They fought for land and resources, something that continues in all societies to this day. If Christians truly elevated us above this behavior the colonial era would never have begun.

>Christians were intellectuals and have always been people worth more than your tree worshipping faggot.

Christians invented neoclassical architecture, a souless imitation of the pagan golden ages in Greece and Rome, simply because they were so in awe of the art work that surrounded them that was left after they quarried much of it to build hovels during the Christian-spawned dark ages.

>>133943269

Secular liberals love Africans, I understand. But you do get what I'm saying when I say the money feeding this population boom comes from handouts from Christian organizations like World Vision etc right?

>>133943374

>And you didnt notice that you invalidated your own initial claim right?

How so? the USSR didn't fully implement Marx's teachings yet it was still a completely destructive endeavor that killed the then-established Russian culture and led to the death of millions in starvation, and in the NKVD purges of those who were not "true believers" (dissidents in the USSR being like pagan peasants conducting their rituals in Scandinavia after their royalty had become Christian)
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>>133943135
Monks gave up their property and starved in order to get closer to God. Not because the government took their shit you retard.
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>>133938329
>he actually believed the modern Jews when they told him that they were the same one mentioned in the bible

Take a look at the picture, it is a contemporary bust of Herod Agrippa, the king of Judea during Jesus' time. Does he seem like a modern jew to you?
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>>133943240

Lol before time there was literally nothing just like you cease to exists when you die there will be nothing
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>>133943240
Plants come from the dirt and you can clone plants.
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>>133936394
>be german
>hate everyone else
>want eternal war and destruction
checks out
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Thou shalt not kill (LXX; οὐ φονεύσεις), You shall not murder (Hebrew: לֹא תִּרְצָח lo tirṣaḥ) or You shall not kill (KJV), is a moral imperative included as one of the Ten Commandments in the Torah,[1] specifically Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:17. The imperative to not kill is in the context of unlawful killing resulting in bloodguilt.[2]

The Hebrew Bible contains numerous prohibitions against unlawful killing, but also contains prescriptive imperatives for lawful killing in the context of warfare, capital punishment, and self-defense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thou_shalt_not_kill
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>>133943560
we use the + in school
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>>133936394
When did you guys grew out of conservatism?
For me it was around my 18th birthday last year.
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>>133943600
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>>133943551

>Monks gave up their property and starved in order to get closer to God. Not because the government took their shit you retard.

"I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, “Who then can be saved?” Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” "

Christ instructed his followers that the abandonment of property should uplift one to a godly life, and thus one shall be saved. Communists used physical coercion to obtain their desires, Christ promised eternal hellfire for those who did not abandon their property.
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>>133943634
Ok, so we're reading between the lines in the bible?

Sure allows for a lot of personal projection and rationalization.
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>>133936394
The only clear and definitive argument proving Jesus as the way the truth and the light is the power of the holy spirit. Those who accept Jesus and have witnessed the holy spirit know that God is real, unequivocally.
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>>133943763
Rome and the Vatican created Islam.
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/04apr/catholicislam.html
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>>133943600

How about instead of a "contemporary bust" we look at his profile on a coin minted under him?
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>>133936394
Declining Christianity as a European should be a crime.
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>>133938082
So you support turning the other cheek, giving a stranger your coat, and being meek and humble. That's what is killing Western Culture you know.
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>>133943625
Oh really? Got a source on that?

Because the way I see it, as well as any competent physicist, all astrophysics time lines point back to an instant before the big bang, and anything beyond the big bang is unknowable being that no physical influence came from anything except the big bang. All of this is far from saying that there was nothing before the big bang.

Read a book, nigga, a fucking book, nigga
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>>133936394
>Derpibooru.org
When I realised all religions are mostly made up bullshit
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>>133943981
Yes, a church and an individual should do those things, but not the government. I do not support a welfare state.
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>>133943600
>>133943873

ENHANCE
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>>133943527
>Secular liberals love Africans, I understand. But you do get what I'm saying when I say the money feeding this population boom comes from handouts from Christian organizations like World Vision etc right?

Yeah I know but that's only part of the problem.

>How so? the USSR didn't fully implement Marx's teachings yet it was still a completely destructive endeavor that killed the then-established Russian culture and led to the death of millions in starvation, and in the NKVD purges of those who were not "true believers" (dissidents in the USSR being like pagan peasants conducting their rituals in Scandinavia after their royalty had become Christian)


Certain quotes from Jesus were pretty communist. Christianity as practiced by Europeans was heirarchical and did not shun power and wealth as you can tell by the cathedrals.

So in theory it may devolve into something communist like but in practice in Europe it didnt except for small sects of total extremists. Since your argument was against European Christianity (historically) I concider them invalid in this case.

>My point exactly. Later on the Catholics during the crusades would commit so many atrocities to the Orthodox eastern empire that Constantinople fell easily into the hands of the Turks. So how's that: Christians sack Rome, Rome falls, Christians sack Byzantium, the Byzantine empire falls. What a coincidence.

Your argument was that Christianity is toxic because ut caused the fall of Western Rome. There were polities at the time that were christian and functioned just fine so clearly the problem was with (western) Romans not with christians per se.

You change your initial arguments every time they are countered and continue saying all sorts of things as long as they are anti christian and vaguely connected to what you were saying.

Let me remind you:

First youy say tha "Christianity is a bolshevik religion" and then you say that it actually isnt and never was except for the fanatics.
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>>133943787
>Christ promised eternal hellfire for those who did not abandon their property.
That's a blatant bait. Christ makes an admonition against earthly desires, and money is the most deceitful of them all. However if you want to be a evangelist, then you must do not have two lords.
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>>133936672
Not yet. What convinced you?
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>>133944123
The man had a roman nose... in a region occupied by romans.
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>>133936394
Raised protestant. Never really cared for it. Stopped going to church in my mid teens. Completely turned my back on that retarded desert cult in my early twenties.
I can't believe how so many people buy that bullshit.
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>>133943937
I miss our shamans
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>>133944123
that coin shows a flatter nose than those damn indians that bash their kids heads on wood
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>>133942984
And what did Germany and Hitler get, faggot?

Huh?

What'd they get?

Viktorie?

How's Germany doing, buddy?
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>>133936394
i think around 15 and for the exact same reasons as that based gentleman in your picture.
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>>133939085
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>>133939728
>>133940072
>>133940980
look at all the finery begging gets you
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>>133944318
lol.
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>>133943527
>defends pagans destruction of rome.
thanks communist you set the world back hundreds of years.
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>>133944514

>christcuck doesn't know what Arianism is or who Alaric was

As expected of a Christian. No understanding or respect for his own history.
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>>133936394
15

>>133936672
21

And grew right back into Christianity recently at 24.

And for those of you who believe your kids will be tipping fedoras... Well just let them and laugh at them like when they are embarrasing them selves normally.
Then just slowly have a discussion on Christian history and how society works once they have spent a year on the work market.
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>>133943527
>My point exactly. Later on the Catholics during the crusades would commit so many atrocities to the Orthodox eastern empire that Constantinople fell easily into the hands of the Turks. So how's that: Christians sack Rome, Rome falls, Christians sack Byzantium, the Byzantine empire falls. What a coincidence.
Barbarian kings weren't christian the first baptised barbarian king is Clovis King of the Franks in 500 whil the western roman empire end in 476. Rome was not sacked by christian since no barabarian were christian at that tim.
For constantinople well it was also rotting in decadance and corruption.And they also betrayed crusaders to the seljuk turk. So it was a kind of revenge. Anyway The eastern roman empire was already slowly dying. The fourth crusade just made it faster.

>Christians were intellectuals and have always been people worth more than your tree worshipping faggot.
It's actually true, gothic architecture, sixtine chapel, and many other thing also philosophy also don't forget most of scientific advance were made by christian even if the church supressed it.
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Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men and weak men create hard times.
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>>133944405
Victory over France, Victory over Poland, Victory of nationslists in Spain, Comrades in Japan, Comrades in Hungsry, Comrades in Finland, Comrades in Romania, Comrades in Slovakia, Victory in most of Russia until oil ran out.

Most powerful nation in the world of s mesdily 120k sq miles, that was invaded by world powers.
To die for my people would be an honor as I gain salvation.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=36NqK0kfcvg
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>>133944611
>And grew right back into Christianity recently at 24.

How can you worship a God in sandals?

Serious question.
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Was Hitler a Rothschild? By David Icke
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_rothschild04.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
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>>133936672
16
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>>133936394
Couldn't make myself believe any of this fantasy garbage since i was 10. God is a Santa for adults.
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>>133944638

>they weren't Christian because they weren't baptized

Yes, I fully understand the amount of slaughter that went on because of "they're not real Christians!" You worship Christ, you're a Christian. End of story. Anything more specific than that and you're a catholic/baptist/etc. Alaric and the Visigoths led the sacking that destroyed Rome and opened the door for the dark ages.

>It's actually true, gothic architecture, sixtine chapel, and many other thing also philosophy also don't forget most of scientific advance were made by christian even if the church supressed it.
>even if the church suppressed it

That's because scientific inquiry is in the European spirit, biology is immutable. Why do you think the pagan Greeks and Romans were so powerful and advanced in comparison to their neighbors? The fact that the church tried to suppress it doesn't help your argument at all.
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>>133944823
how can you worship a tree?
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This nation enlightened by truth took on the Jewish world and nearly won, the size of central America.

But of course the shear magnitude of falsehoods stslled tge truth of Hitler, soviet union 8.6 million sq miles, usa 3.6 million sq miles british empire 14 million sq miles
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>>133943790
uhm have you ever read the fucking bible?
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>>133944943
>implying implications
It was a legit question m80. I sort of want to beliebe too
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>>133936877
you retard this is an temporary conclusion from all the information we have right now, we only need more time and technology to get proof for what actually happened
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>>133938063
Hey Catholic boy

Catholicism esteems human tradition & culture over that of the ways of God, its basis is rooted upon human decrees, they are unable to argue from the Bible, instead it has to rely on Vatican-sanctioned histories, they use idols, pray through false intercessors like Saints & Mary, even though Jesus alone is the way to the Father, they instituted pagan festivals & holidays, and even presumptuously assume the power to remit sin. In their Catechism they tampered with God's Law -- removed the 2nd commandment, altered the 4th, and split the 10th to preserve the # (fulfilling Daniel 7). The history of Catholicism has been one of Satanic abuse employing political & martial power to exert their will. The only Biblical argument they use for Popery is "Peter is the rock of the church" yet that isn't a justification for Papal hierarchical arrangement whatsoever -- read the books written by Peter, he never in anyway condones such an architecture. Upon the death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus, the Church was small, far-flung, and fragile, and so Peter was raised up to clarify questions and give context to the example laid by Christ to the early church -- so yes, in this way the "church was built on the rock of Peter" which is to say, his teachings & clarifications -- not the man or any man -- Jesus is the foundation on which we must place our faith completely.
Orthodox have many of the same problems as Catholicism.
Faggot-sects of Jesuit-infiltrated "Protestantism" have lost their balls and are no longer standing up against the seat of the Antichrist power which is Popery and most still false sabbath. Although the early Reformers didn't agree on much, they got the ball rolling and agreed that Papacy was illegitimate.

>Comprehensive history of the Reformation & Catholic blasphemy
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF170B126002E7CB0

https://carm.org/list-of-roman-catholic-false-teachings
https://carm.org/luthers-95-theses
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>>133944988
Absolutey.
What are you getting at? The bible does not explain it's magic.
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Ofcourse the jewish subversion of christianity has reached /pol/ with the loud minority of pagacucks being useful idiots also I tend to notice that these ((neopagans)) tend to have primary school knowledge of history and I've also noticed these threads starting to pop-up more and more in summer which leads me to think these ((pagans)) on /pol/ are bitter teens on summerbreak becoming ((pagan)) to spite their parents
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>>133936672
Buttblasted religiotard detected.
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>>133944823
plotinus
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>>133936672
>growing out of atheism
It takes an incredible amount of stupidity to go from common sense to irrational belief.
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>>133936394
I never grew out of it, because I was never in it. Raised without religion, but obviously I was aware of it. It was probably two or three years before I completed primary school that it was obvious bollocks. Santa/god/god/Santa.
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>>133945519
>It takes an incredible amount of stupidity
True, but don't forget fear and egomania. Many christfags are too cowardly to face their own mortality, and others are too self-important to accept that they are finite beings.
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Recommemded videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_EiCvsK3KE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSZA3NPpBs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUQaKOWPZEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=styLx-iWwC8
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>>133945773
>Many christfags are too cowardly to face their own mortality, and others are too self-important to accept that they are finite beings.
Which I classify as stupidity
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>>133945483
Nisam se još dotakao njega. Obično skačem bez reda i smisla po filozofima pa sad čitam Platonovu Državu.

Interesantno doduše prema wiki članku kako ovaj, pa i mnoštvo filozofa i hermetičara dijele čovjeka uvijek na tri nečega, pa tako i subsekcije obično imaju tri podjele.
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>>133936394
more importantly, when you will mature back to Christ and His Church?
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yello fellow goys
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>>133945371
Yeah it does its the will of god its explained in the book wtf you obvious read the bible like a school child not even understanding what you were reading its ok though a lot of people aren't good with books
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I rejected Xtianity from the age of 12

The bullshit in the Bible makes no sense and the RCC cult even less so
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>>133945773
We literally ponder death everyday. Was it cowardly when Charlemagne stomped the Saxons? Was it cowardly when Alfred the Great repelled the savage Danes? Was it cowardly when Don Juan of Austria, or Jan Sobieski faced the Turks?

Was it cowardly for EVERY martyr to willingly face death like the Word Incarnate?
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>>133945329
why such heresy?
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>>133946237
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>>133945773
I'm not afraid of death. Christians fight with the body and with the soul. Atheists are afraid of lose the only thing they have: their bodies. Pagans have this same problem.
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>>133946318
What are you going to do? Are you going to do what the Jesuits did to Protestants?
"I do further declare that I will help, assist and advise all or any of his holiness’ agents, in any place where I should be in Switzerland, Germany, Holland or America, or in any other territory I shall come to, and do my utmost to extirpate the heretical Protestant or Masonic doctrines, and destroy all their pretended powers, legal or otherwise. .... I do further promise and declare, that I will, when opportunity presents, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth, and that I will spare neither age, sex, nor condition, and that I will burn, hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle, bury alive, these infamous heretics, open up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants’ heads against the walls in order to annihilate their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poison cup, the strangulation cord, the steel of the poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity or authority of the persons whatever be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed to so do, by any agent of the Pope, or superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith of the Society of Jesus."
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>>133946557
The soul is fictitious. It does not exist, just like your god.
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>>133936394
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>>133946318
Heretic. Heretic. Heretic. That is all you can say. It has been said many times to the point that the word has lost all meaning. I laugh at you.
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>>133943240
>we don't know what was there before
>God creating the universe? ahaha that is totally impossible
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>>133943994
what cannot be known empirically, can be guessed logically. A God creator is the most rational explanation, whether you like it or not. Being an atheist is therefore a biased and anti-intellectual stance.
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>>133936394
>decries Christ
>decries peace
>loses war
What a faggot
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>not calling it abrahamism
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>>133946318
>Be American
>Be Catholic
Top kek. In order to escape persecution from the Catholic Church, secret societies were formed such as the Masons and it was these good Masons who founded the United States of America. The U.S.A. was founded on the principles of the Renaissance and Reformation, it reflected a "New Order of The Ages" where we the people were sovereign and no one was sovereign over us.

In the U.S. there was no sovereign king, queen or pope. The government was meant to be the servant of the people, this was the "Novus Ordo Seclorum" or "New Order of the Ages" which is the opposite of the Old World Order
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>>133946737
When you think of coherent, logical arguments to support the claim that your god exists, you will no longer need to embarrass yourself by posting cartoons. I won't hold my breath.
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>>133946880

> a flying spaghetti monster is the most rational explanation, whether you like it or not

see how stupid that sounds?
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>>133936877
>Christians
Some magic daddy
Nothing
Daddy is bored let's fuck around and make an universe and little creatures called "people"
Everything

Yeah a way better theory than science. Fucking retards
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>>133944823
Hey at least Jesus isn't German so he didn't wear socks to go with those sandals.

Sandals were the standard footwear at that time on the Mediteranean coast.
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>>133936394
>2010+7
>still not a nihilist
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>>133947109
>>> a flying spaghetti monster is the most rational explanation, whether you like it or not
nice strawman. The Christian God and the spaghetti monster share no quality whatsoever, they are like water and oil. In fact, this kind of reductio ad absurdum that's not even pertinent to what is being "reduced" is nothing but a proof of the biasedeness and illogical endeavours undertaken by the so-called atheists
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>>133947347
Your favourite god comes with the same amount of supporting evidence as all of the other gods that you don't believe in. The same amount as the FSM.

That amount is zero. Were it not zero, the word "faith" would be unnecessary.
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>>133947347

>my sky daddy is better than yours

Gotcha!
;)
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>>133947516
I'm so fucking baffled by the amount of religious people here. Seems like we have a far way infront of us before religion is gone.
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>>133947516
>Your favourite god comes with the same amount of supporting evidence as all of the other gods that you don't believe in
t.brainlet
Your problem is that you never pondered about the truths of life, therefore you cannot see why that particular God is the true one. You do things in reserve and only act out of some teenage angst impulse to subvert what your oppressive parents taught you or some bullshit like that (just one example of when the anti-intellectualism can come from).
>That amount is zero. Were it not zero, the word "faith" would be unnecessary.
Faith is due to our limits, not to God's limits. "Evidence" is just a buzzword that in the context of life and in the context of human essence (which comes from God btw) has very little meaning.

>>133947587
>work of fiction by butthurt anti-intellectual atheists vs creator of the universe and everyone's soul
puts things better into perspective, but I am glad people like you are only relevant in their mom's basement
that
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Prophecies fulfilled
https://sites.google.com/site/atwhnb2016/02-365-messianic-prophecies-fulfilled
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>>133947811
*in reverse
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>>133947773
Someday you'll grow up too anon
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>>133947811
You should reflect on what is causing you to become angry, abusive, presumptuous and disrespectful.
>teenage angst
I am 50 years old.
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>>133947893
Grow up to what? To delusional, irrational belief? You are a joke. The universe gives absolutely no fucks about you. There is no god, there is no after life. You, just like every animal on this earth will die and rot.
But you are too fucking stupid and weak to accept, so you believe in a child-tier story about a retard in the sky who is imnipotent.
If he is omnipotent, that means he knew EXACTLY what would happen when he created everything. So punishing people for his own creation makes absolutely no sense, and therefore your god is a retard. Which is only rational to believe that there is no omnipotent god that is also stupid.
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>>133948035
>You should reflect on what is causing you to become angry, abusive, presumptuous and disrespectful.
I see that you lack and sort of arguments. I guess we're done here
>I am 50 years old.
Also functionally illiterate it seems. Doesn't matter where the cause lies, it always stems from anti-intellectual bias
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>>133948160
>I see that you lack and sort of arguments
>and sort
>Also functionally illiterate
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>>133948252
>there are people who actually take this picture seriously
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>>133936394
The whole point of Christianity is suffering, and that arises because the peace of God on Earth will likely not be possible ever. One day you'll grow up little one.
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>>133946318
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>>133948152
>Navy-SEALs-pasta tier

Autism meter is currently at unprecedented levels
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>>133948152
>Grow up to what? To delusional, irrational belief?
something isn't irrational just because you say it is. Especially considering that you do not understand Christianity at all.
>The universe gives absolutely no fucks about you. There is no god, there is no after life. You, just like every animal on this earth will die and rot.
Wouldn't that be convenient? Unfortunately for you that is just your twisted view of reality, one based on your personal frustrations and irrational excuses.
>But you are too fucking stupid and weak to accept, so you believe in a child-tier story about a retard in the sky who is imnipotent.
There's nothing weaker than believing there is no God, anon.
>If he is omnipotent, that means he knew EXACTLY what would happen when he created everything. So punishing people for his own creation makes absolutely no sense, and therefore your god is a retard.
Hell is not a punishment, it is a choice. A choice you make with your actions. Period. The rest is just the whining and chimping out of a person too WEAK to accept responsibility for his own wickedness.
>Which is only rational to believe that there is no omnipotent god that is also stupid.
All the opposite, God can only exist if he's omnipotent, otherwise he isn't God.

>>133948307
>lacks arguments so much that he has to point out a fucking typo
at least next time point out actual grammar mistakes lmao is this the power of atheist intellectuals?
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>>133947020
I guess that is a nice Enlightenment viewpoint.
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>>133946557
lmao what a fantasy
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>>133947020
>In order to escape persecution from the Catholic Church
*in order to persecute the Catholic Church while sucking jewish cock

ftfy
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>>133936394
12, then I grew out of atheism at 19.
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I don't know if there is a god, but I know two things

>no christianity = islam takes over
>atheism is ni better

Bonus

>buddhism, inuism and similar are even more retarded than the abrahamic religions
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>>133948474
Pro-tip: Always proof-read when accusing others of illiteracy.
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>>133946689
Okay Eric John Phelps.
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>>133948152
That was quite the smorgasbord of claims.
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>>133936394
I can tell you're probably in your early 20's; if you get married and have kids you'll probably come around on many Christian values, like respecting traditional family values, enjoying Christian holidays with your kids and at the very least respecting the religion over all others by the time your early 30's.
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>>133948635
Yes.

Grazie.
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>>133946689
so which is it, Catholics are cucked or too hardcore?
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>>133948695
a typo does not show illiteracy, neither does not proof-reading a post on a fucking anime-wanking competition board. On the other hand, not being able to understand what someone else wrote and lacking fundamental reading comprehension are clear symptoms of functional illiteracy.
Keep making excuses for your ignorance though, it is very entertaining to me.
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>>133948474
>Hell is not a punishment, it is a choice.
It is a punishment for a choice. You are literally trying to defend a punishment for a thought crime. And that punishment is an eternity in suffering. What a loving god.

>he is omnipotent
Meaning: While he was creating the world, he knew EXACTLY what and when would happen. Meaning he knew that after some time some lithuanian would be born that wouldn't believe in him and go to hell after he died.
That is just as retarded as creating a robot that you know would create another robot that would kill my child, and then blame the robot for killing my child.
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>>133948474
You go to hell for believing in the wrong god, or no gods, or the wrong Christianity. You're a sandnigger religion through and through.
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>>133948635
>Talking about Jews
http://redefininggod.com/2016/10/how-the-kabbalist-jews-took-over-the-roman-catholic-church-through-the-jesuit-order/
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>>133948678
Atheists murdered more people than anyone ever. Atheism is the way to stop Islam.
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>>133948951
Becoming angry for god, the post. Hope you manage to cheer up soon :)
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>>133943240

You brainwashed fucks. The "we don't know yet" card applies to things that are ((unclear)), not ((impossible)).

Unclear = how placebo effect works, why is Sun's atmosphere hotter than it's surface, the black hole shit etc.

Impossible = literally a fucking universe being created from nothing.

I know this phrase has been raped by conspiretards but you literally need to wake up from your sweet 'everything can be explained with science' dream.
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I was never really raised in the Christcuck tradition to begin with and have never thought much of the religion. Its Judaic nonesense.
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>>133948990
>do something wrong, pay the toll
do you understand that is the most basic principle of any right-wing ideology? You can't be right-wing if you believe doing the wrong thing although being warned it is wrong shouldn't lead to some sort of punishment.
If you reject the idea of hell, you reject the idea of personal responsibility. You cannot pick and choose what is true or not, that is relativity, which isn't just not right-wing but can obviously not belong to THE actual God.

>>133949043
Nice proxy shlomo

>>133949128
>angry
nice projection lmao

>>133948961
>It is a punishment for a choice.
Nothing wrong with that. Every judicial system is literally based on that lmao
>You are literally trying to defend a punishment for a thought crime.
A thought is an action, and that thought also results in certain actions throughout your life. If you believe God doesn't exist, you won't follow what he created you for, therefore you'll always go against him in a way or another. Even looking at these things from a non-christian general deist point of view, atheism is just illogical and anti-intellectual.
>And that punishment is an eternity in suffering. What a loving god.
As long as you repent, none of the bad choices in this life are eternal, but if you never repent, becauseo of what the afterlife is (i.e. eternity), the punishment must be necessarily eternal too. Your problem is you know nothing about Christianity, you are just an ignorant person justifying to himself his whole anti-intellectual choices in life.
>Meaning he knew that after some time some lithuanian would be born that wouldn't believe in him and go to hell after he died.
You have a choice to do whatever you want, there is no fatality or destiny for anyone to go to hell unless they freely decide with their actions to do so.

You are obviously underage, you'll get over this when your brain develops a little more.
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>>133949252
>I don't know how the universe began
>so I worship a jew.

El oh el
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>>133949252
>Impossible = literally a fucking universe being created from nothing.

Who created your god? The rule above, your rule, demands that your god must have a creator.
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>>133949465
>Nice proxy shlomo
I am not a Jew and I am not using a proxy. Stop projecting.
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>>133949593
sure thing shlomo
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>>133949465
>You have a choice to do whatever you want, there is no fatality or destiny for anyone to go to hell unless they freely decide with their actions to do so.
Ok so you are a bit retarded, I can help you out here.
God had to KNOW what choice I would make.
Try and think about that^, and my last post.
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>>133936394
I left Christianity in my 19y and im happy.Im not blind person believing in such cucked faggotry sci-fi book.
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>>133949688
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
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>>133949465
How would someone born in the wrong continent cut off from the word of god be responsible for his belief in the wrong god?
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>>133949700
>God had to KNOW what choice I would make.
Our personal future isn't decided anon, that is what free will means you ignorant autist. God may give us the choices we'll have to face in our life, but he gives us freedom to take one street or the other. He knows all possible conclusions to all possible choices, but that's it. Before you sperg even more, God's omnipotence can only be limited by himself, i.e. by his own decisions. That is why free will is such an amazing thing, it is literally the ability to go against God. Of course going against God means losing (duh?), but he still gives that choice out of love. That is the truth that is behind the lie (or rather half-truth) that the serpent says in the garden ("you'll be like gods"). Which is, you can be whoever you want to be, your choices are not bound by the will of God, but like everything else our choices have consequences.
It is impossible to explain these things in a post, you just have to educate yourself, ponder about the truth and stop being a whiny fedora tipper with no education and critical thinking.

>>133949852
>ad-hominem
so you admit being a shlomo then, I guess we're done here

>>133949878
God's law is written in everyone's heart. If you follow it without knowing it, you'll be rewarded. So in that circumstance you mentioned you'll be saved if you follow the natural law. But in this time and age in which the internet allows free information to literally everyone, the people who can say such a thing are less and less. If you know Christianity exists, you already have no excuses.
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>>133949465
Imaginary fire for dead men is not punishment. Punishment comes at the end of a blade or the barrel of a gun. Locking a serial killer in a cage so he can find god and escape hell is not punishment.
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>>133950257
>Imaginary fire for dead men is not punishment. Punishment comes at the end of a blade or the barrel of a gun. Locking a serial killer in a cage so he can find god and escape hell is not punishment.
Wow I am literally baffled by the low-IQ in this post. I suggest you to read it clearly and see all the contradictions in your statement.
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>>133949556

“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” ~Revelation 1:8

God as an omnipotent being doesn't fall under laws of physics or even logical limitations. He can work above our way of thinking.
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>>133950397
*re-read it slowly
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>>133950408
So you reject logic.
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>>133950408
>God as an omnipotent being doesn't fall under laws of physics or even logical limitations.
And how do you know that? From an ancient book with talking snakes and a wooden boat containing every species of animal on the planet? That book?

Your god does not exist. You have been scammed.
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>>133936394
never because my parents let us adopt our own ideologies and beliefs... But now I'm on /pol/ and legitimately believe 9/11 was an inside job and the breakdown of civilization will happen in my lifetime. So, win?
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>>133950397
Not a argument. Your religion promises punishment for unbelievers and promises reward for believers no matter how evil they were. White people used to have gods like that, we called them gods of war, we didn't call them loving.
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>>133936672
Probs 16 or 17.
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>>133950894
>Your religion promises punishment for unbelievers and promises reward for believers no matter how evil they were
wrong, maybe you are thinking of protestantism. In Catholicism faith without works is dead.
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>>133950825
The Jews love numbers. IXXI(9/11) makes the seal of Solomon, also called star of David, which is on Israel's flag.
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>>133937311
You are a little bit short of mind.
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>>133936394
>tips pickelhaube
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>>133950969
In Catholicism you rape little boys like the sandniggers whose faith you imitate.
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>>133936394
Maybe around 15, that's when I dropped this sky daddy horseshit.
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>>133950608

>Old Testament being interpreted literally

Not sure in which cave you've been living but except for few conspiretards it's widely acknowledged by church that Old Testament is not to be interpreted literally. I mean if you've ever read Bible, even Jesus is talking in parables half of the time.
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>>133950969
Matthew 7:21-23King James Version (KJV)

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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>>133951476
Does that include the very first page where god zaps up the universe with his magic wand? Is that also not to be interpreted literally?
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>>133950894
Revelation 21:8King James Version (KJV)

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
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>>133951476

The problem offcourse is that jesus cites the old testament as literal facts , so does peter you will be willingly ignorant of the creation of the universe and about the flood

1This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance: 2That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:

3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, 4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: 6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
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>>133951773

Well that's not really open to different interpretation, now is it? In which case, yes, that's basically how we believe it happened.

It all comes down to the God's omnipotence and His ability to work above our understandings.
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>>133942637
Rome was pagan fucktard.
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>>133936394
Grew out at probably 16 or so, came back at 23 after I grew up.
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>>133942911
What is Serfdom.

That's as Jewish as it gets. Communism is to placate the masses.
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>>133942984
This. Take a lesson from Japan.
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>>133943338
https://davidduke.com/rethinking-khazar-theory/

Your Khazar bullshit has already been debunked kike. Try again.

If you worship a Jewish god, your ancestry doesn't matter. You are a Jew.
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>unironically believing magic/supernatural bs
>no one, not one single person out of the 7 billion plus on Earth has been able to capture proof of anything supernatural
>following the ultimate cuck guide written by a bunch of kikes with a bonus feature written by a few goys at BEST 60 years after the kike died

There's more wisdom in any short Stoic text than in that entire bloated Jew-cuck manual. You guys are pathetic, but at least you make me laugh lmao enjoy your black grand kids faggots
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>>133950217
The only thing you just proved is that you don't understand my argument
.
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>>133936394
8 the day of my first communion when I meditate on it and realized its a bunch of fairytales.
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>>133938807
the first question I get after someone finds out I believe in creationism is "what about the dinosaurs?". this has happened multiple times lol.
as if I was gonna be all "oh shoot yea forgot about the dinosaurs".
An apatosaurus is described in the book of Job so athiestcucks 0 creationfags eleventy billion
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>>133954065

From giants, nephilim, demons, and watchers — all the way to messengers, fallen ones, and the mysteries behind the world and even the worlds above and below, The Book Of Enoch tells it all!

So why has this Book been hidden and concealed for so long?

Could there be even DEEPER TRUTHS behind this Book that your elite don't want you to know?!

Deeper Truths including the TRUTH about giants, dinosaurs, aliens, flat earth, and Future Prophecies?

Is there a Secret Agenda behind hiding such a Book, and hiding TRUTH?!?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUQaKOWPZEE
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>>133953483
Know who else was a Jew? Hitler!
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_rothschild04.htm
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>>133936394
I've never really been religious, but I realised it was bullshit when I was about 9. A teacher who was very Christian taught us about ancient roman and Greek gods, brushing their credibility off as products of their time. She didn't see flaw in her logic desu. The same teacher, having taught us of the benefits of science and the superior intellect of scientist, later told us that only ebil scientists didn't believe in gods. She was a dumb fucker come to think of it. I suppose that quality goes hand in hand with religion though.
Anyone who needs outlandish beliefs to be a good person is an idiot and a genuinely bad person by definition imho.
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I became a believer in God at 14. Saw my alcoholic/atheist mother pray to God to save her when she was drunk. She said she did not believe but God please save me. It changed her life. So, I'm not too hip on the non-belief in God.
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>>133954862
Common myths to explain the reality of a higher power. Every culture has had them from eternity.
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>>133936394
>People not following the New Testament treat OP badly in the name of it.
>Instead of reading the Bible to see if the abusers are lying, OP simply believes they represent Christianity.
>thinks he's redpilled

Congrats. You're like someone having one single bad encounter with a White nationalist, then blaming all WNs and calling it all garbage. You're not that smart.
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>>133936672
16, I'm an unshakable theist now
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>>133951307
wrong

>>133951480
>but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
;)
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>>133954969
So you actually believe that an entity of god helped her? I think there was a south park episode on this.
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>>133955210
What about the other two verse? :D
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>>133937311
obviously you're the epitome of intelligence, and we should all look to you for guidance in these dark times for you are the embodiment of wisdom. please tell us who we are, why we got here, and how we developed the ability to be able to ask ourselves these questions, and why we are able to understand interdimensional and time travel? where do we go when we die?

>>133937378
>>133941271
every person will be held accountable to know we have a creator just by the creation itself
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6X3kVFYDKA

Embrace your intelligent and enlightened brothers Kikecucks ahahhahahahahaha
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>>133955268
they describe Protestantism, which fill their mouth with "muh Jesus" while stabbing him in the back with each one of their heretical denominations.
See how he says "I never knew you"? It's because if you are not Catholic you are not part of the body of Christ, and therefore your works are worthless just like those of non-christians
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>>133955056
I'm fine with myths. Religion is all too often presented as fact though. I know the more educated a religious person is, things like creationism go out the door. But such beliefs are common among (((Americans))) and it's a shame they hang on to these outdated antiquities.
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>>133955400
I have no denomination. And I'm pretty sure it's describing Catholicism.

Catholicism esteems human tradition & culture over that of the ways of God, its basis is rooted upon human decrees, they are unable to argue from the Bible, instead it has to rely on Vatican-sanctioned histories, they use idols, pray through false intercessors like Saints & Mary, even though Jesus alone is the way to the Father, they instituted pagan festivals & holidays, and even presumptuously assume the power to remit sin. In their Catechism they tampered with God's Law -- removed the 2nd commandment, altered the 4th, and split the 10th to preserve the # (fulfilling Daniel 7). The history of Catholicism has been one of Satanic abuse employing political & martial power to exert their will. The only Biblical argument they use for Popery is "Peter is the rock of the church" yet that isn't a justification for Papal hierarchical arrangement whatsoever -- read the books written by Peter, he never in anyway condones such an architecture. Upon the death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus, the Church was small, far-flung, and fragile, and so Peter was raised up to clarify questions and give context to the example laid by Christ to the early church -- so yes, in this way the "church was built on the rock of Peter" which is to say, his teachings & clarifications -- not the man or any man -- Jesus is the foundation on which we must place our faith completely.
Orthodox have many of the same problems as Catholicism.
Faggot-sects of Jesuit-infiltrated "Protestantism" have lost their balls and are no longer standing up against the seat of the Antichrist power which is Popery and most still false sabbath. Although the early Reformers didn't agree on much, they got the ball rolling and agreed that Papacy was illegitimate.

>Comprehensive history of the Reformation & Catholic blasphemy
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLF170B126002E7CB0
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>>133955210
>doesn't understand the catholic church as a pro-islam rhetoric.
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>>133952639

Ye well that's the thing; those things that Jesus cited from Old Testament are binding to Christians well, for example the ten commandments. We of course believe that the great flood happened one way or another, it just could've been different than the way we understand
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>>133955597
Prepping up for the New World Order I see. The Pope is pushing for a one world religion while the Jews are pushing for a one world government and currency.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07dPzM5q43c
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>>133955569
>I have no denomination
special snowflakes are not christians
>And I'm pretty sure it's describing Catholicism.
and I am 100% sure you're wrong, as I showed you already.

>long ranting pasta full of retardness
nutcase pls

>>133955597
>>133955763
I see that Tel Aviv is strong itt
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>>133938921
not according to lawrence krauss
from a discription of his book, a universe from nothing: "Why is there something rather than nothing? is asked of anyone who says there is no God. Yet this is not so much a philosophical or religious question as it is a question about the natural world—and until now there has not been a satisfying scientific answer. Today, exciting scientific advances provide new insight into this cosmological mystery: Not only can something arise from nothing, something will always arise from nothing. With his wonderfully clear arguments and wry humor, pioneering physicist Lawrence Krauss explains how in this fascinating antidote to outmoded philosophical and religious thinking. "
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>>133955874
>doesn't understand that the catholic church has a pro-islam rhetoric.
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>>133936672
>grow out of atheism
So you jumped from one ideology to another? You really grew up there, retard. If you have any real understanding of how Christianity developed, you'd realize that it's a bullshit belief system relying entirely on you not bothering to examine it critically.
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>>133956133
>he fell for the jew meme that there is no soul
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>>133956091
Aye.
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>>133956091
>the people who literally stopped Islam from taking over Europe while protestants allied with the muslims and tried to "sandwich" Catholics in warfare together with them
>pro-islam

americans and their education are truly the whore of babylon
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>>133955874
>special snowflakes are not christian

Bruh...
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>>133956091
Jesus came to cause divisions, not unite.
Luke 12:49-56King James Version (KJV)

49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished!

51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.

53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

54 And he said also to the people, When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is.

55 And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass.

56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time?
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>>133953647
>The only thing you just proved is that you don't understand my argument
I understood your argument, you are just too illiterate to understand my reply, because you've never critically thought about these things once in your entire life
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>>133956241
Show me the evidence.
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>>133956345
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>>133956278
>The people who created Islam and lost control of the people had to stop something they created.
Deus vult! Deus vult!
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/04apr/catholicislam.html
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>>133956347
>Jesus came to cause divisions, not unite.
so you'll understand why if you are not Catholic you cannot be saved ;)
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>>133956278
ok, show me with the bible how america is the whore of babylon, I'm waiting

>>the people who literally stopped Islam

the people who literally invented islam
FTFY

>>pro-islam
you must be blinder than a bat to not see how the catholic church is pushing a pro-islam rhetoric
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>>133956445
what would constitute as proof?
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>>133956518
>let me link you this conspiratard website by some alabama bumpkin
I feel pity for you anon, truly. It must not be easy to be clinically retarded

>>133956615
Ancient Rome is just a prototype of Babylon, not even the first one. Has nothing to do with the Vatican, which represent the victory of Christ over the pagan world, as was foreseen literally countless times in the OT. Protestants will never understand the Bible, and it puts Christ's words about people not hearing, and not giving pealrs to swines into perfect perspective.
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>>133956615
Saudi Arabia is Mystery Babylon. She whores herself out for imports. She has a lot of fornicators who fornicate her for oil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY20IFaWlsQ
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>>133936394
Since I was a kid, it never stood too well with me.

I am not an atheist though, I prefer to call upon many gods, mainly from the Greek pantheon, but other pagan gods are cool too.

Mainly virtues and sins incarnate in gods for me. Apart from that I believe in an underlying, all encompassing force in the universe which moves everything. Call it the ether, ki or prana, whatever.

Most people do need religion though, as tey are unable to constitute a moral standing without it.
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>>133956834
>>133956615
The book of Apocalypse is many things, but it's none of the things Protestants believe. The practical aspect of the prophecies can only be understood after they have passed anyway by God's decree, so anyone claiming otherwise is just deceiving you
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>>133936672
wtf I love the magic sky fairy now
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>>133956785
>let me link you this conspiratard website by some alabama bumpkin
Where do you think you are? /Pol/ is a haven for "conspiratards".
>>
>>133956557
>he gets to spend an eternity with a super-powered kike

Yeah, you really won there! lmfao

>>133956615
This does make Rome seem more appealing but I'm still not biting.
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>>133957023
Not all conspiracies are made equal. Some things are just not accepted but true. Your conspiracies about the vatican instead are completely retarded made-up bullshit by protestant hick pastors in america

>>133957086
>Yeah, you really won there! lmfao
You have no idea about the Christian conception of God, and life
You are like a blind man saying that people who can see should get tired of the light, of the colors, that it's much better and more comfy to just see black. You don't understand what any of this actually means.
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>>133956834
not according to Daniel, or revelations 18:3

>>133956950
>Ancient Rome is just a prototype of Babylon, not even the first one. Has nothing to do with the Vatican, which represent the victory of Christ over the pagan world, as was foreseen literally countless times in the OT. Protestants will never understand the Bible, and it puts Christ's words about people not hearing, and not giving pealrs to swines into perfect perspective.

>Roman Catholicism (paganism

ok, sure, catholicism has nothing to do with Rome.
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>>133956685
Substantial amounts of physical evidence. Same for anything.
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>>133956785
what ever you say buddy. what ever you say.
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>>133957202
>fed da poor christies to da lions!
Never happened.
>Oy vey don't forget da 70,000,000
Christniggers.
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>>133957202
>>133957309
it's useless, people like you are a lost cause
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>>133957451
As are christians in general.
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>>133957309
Please keep an open mind and watch the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY20IFaWlsQ
The Bible speaks of beheadings and beheadings are the primary way they execute the unbelievers.
Revelation 20:4King James Version (KJV)

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
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>>133957605
Muslims
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>>133957547
lol nope
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>>133957309
>>133897205
The Jews and the Muslims are still waiting for a Messiah and that person will be the Antichrist.
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>>133957668
Say what you want, but you are no better than the Jews. You want the world to bow down to you. Probably why you worship Jews.
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>>133957193
You are like an idiot with an over-inflated ego who thinks he's intelligent because he memorized a bunch of bullshit from a book written by kikes. Then you have the nerve to admonish others about thinking critically. You're so pathetic and you don't even understand why. I may be blind but I'm not stupid, you on the other hand..

>anon arrives in heaven
>St. Peter-sucker says
>Ah yes, anon, we've been expecting you welcome to heaven!
>later that day anon is exploring the wonders of heaven
>some one taps him on the shoulder, who could it be?!
>is it grandma? pop pop? No, it's Jesus!
>in a high nasally voice "Anon, I just wanted to welcome you to heaven. And thank you for your tireless defense of a bunch of nonsense half of which was empirically incorrect"
>"T..t..thanks Jesus"
>"No, thank you my child. Have a blessed day (even though day has no meaning here)"
>They start to part ways when Jesus stops mid stride
>"Oh, anon, there was one more thing"
>"Yes my kike-lord anything for you!"
>:"Oy gevalt, how could I forget?!"
>"Anon... where's the $5 dollars you owe me?"
>anon is stunned
>"W....what?"
>"Anon I loaned you $10 last week. If you don't give me my $50 you're going to hell!"
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>>133957605
the problem with that video is that arabia is always mentioned as arabia, and has its own prophecies concerning it.

>>133957443
>the same person denying the existence of the soul is denying the crimes of the catholic church

ok

>>133957451
BEHOLD STRONG CATHOLIC VALUES
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>>133957890
>literally writing a wall of text with his shitty fan-fic
feels good I will never, ever be this buttblasted

>>133957827
good goy

>>133957970
>inquisition
nice meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY-pS6iLFuc
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A Muslim made this thread saying these things.
>>133897205
>Christianity is a false religion and that's why it will lose.

>Christians do not worship Allah (God) They worship 3 gods, Their book is corrupted and their religion is false. Chr*stians will go to hell, Chr*stians are the residents of hellfire. Meanwhile Jews and Muslims will go to heaven because they worship Allah not 3 gods.
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