What does /pol think about ANTIFA, and communism? >pic related

Imagine if you were such a shit person improving your condition is best done through world wide complete revolution than simply reading a self help books or recognising your flaws.

This is what everyone is thinking when they see your types.

I think Stalin would have executed 99.9% of modern day "communists"

File: 1499435248389.png (259KB, 500x666px) Image search: [Google]

259KB, 500x666px

>>133906266
I studied Communism and other political doctrines in my pHD. I read Marx etc..I get what they MEAN with their idea, but I don't see how it will work from the 2nd to 3rd stage.
Once the Proletariat is the new ruling class..what will make EM resign and make the state slowly decease?
I don't get what will be the PRACTICAL way, I understand the THEORY but I don't see how it is possible to have this major collective push in towards this communistic society wwithout having personal interests influencing it.
As we saw in Russia with Stalin.
The initial ideas of Lenin were immediately changed when the REALITY kicked in. Already in 1917 theBolsheviks had to change things in their plans because reality won't make it all easy as Marx wrote in his writings, the proletariat isn't a huge hivemind with a common aim, its jusr a bunch of utopistic theories.
Marx was a douche. he called Proudhon and Saint- Louis and Witley "Utopists" when he was an Utopist too.

>>133906266
There is a reason why Anarchist and Communist flags are red. It is the true red pill.

File: communismthen.jpg (164KB, 719x960px) Image search: [Google]

164KB, 719x960px

>>133906266
Communism is the next stage after capitalism

>>133906663
This

File: d5f42b867ca2c8720ad5855238ee1670.png (123KB, 305x398px) Image search: [Google]

123KB, 305x398px

>>133906266
Are you retarded? Seriously, are you? "What does /pol/ think of ANTIFA and Communism" well everyone on this board is the same edgy 'fashy' teen who all agree that Communism is shit and ANTIFA are a degenerative movement. What do you expect? OH WE LOVE ANITFA! Also, pic related? Yeah because if you didn't tell me I wouldn't have noticed.

File: paintitred.jpg (129KB, 640x815px) Image search: [Google]

129KB, 640x815px

>>133906831
Kek this. Embrace the red pill comrades

>>133906266
I'm not a leftist, but the fan boys for absolute capitalism are idiots. I think it's the best system so far, but as technology and automation progress, good meaning, skilled workers will be without work. What do we do with them?

Marx was wrong about basically everything, but he was right that unrestrained international capitalism would produce the conditions/material excess necessary for a leftist revolution.

When you place your comfort/convenience before sustainability and the health of your nation you bound to fail

Honestly, Hitlers critiques of capitalism and communism were spot on.

Antifa fucking sucks though

File: 1485513958625.jpg (173KB, 801x1024px) Image search: [Google]

173KB, 801x1024px

>>133906266
Physical removal seems like the best option

File: 1488124579743.png (120KB, 644x598px) Image search: [Google]

120KB, 644x598px

>>133906770
Communism is impossible due to limited resources and human nature. It never has and never will work.

>>133906266
let's say, hypothetically, that america randomly became communist:

antifa would be one of the first groups sent to gulag. they only cause public dissent and inherently do not wish to actually keep proper jobs. they really want anarchy-with-welfare but hide under commie sheets.

the white, normal middle-class they so often fight against would adapt to communism far better than these people, who would be killed or imprisoned for being too individualistic.

File: IMG_0537.jpg (106KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

106KB, 1280x720px

https://squawker.org/all/punked-did-notorious-internet-prankster-bg-kumbi-just-punk-fox-news-posing-as-antifa/

>>133907477
>limited resources
Same applies to capitalism.

File: 1481349532665.jpg (58KB, 552x712px) Image search: [Google]

58KB, 552x712px

>>133906266

>>133907600
Except capitalism provides a safe way for tribes to compete for resources without engaging in constant warfare, allowing for the rapid expansion of civilization.

>>133906266
Anarchist =/= antifa
Antifa = fascists

Anarchists do not want any government. They don't care what anyone else does. They let people be racist as long as it doesn't affect them. It is extreme libertarianism.

>>133908571
>antifa are the real fascist

reddit is that way newfag

>>133908571
Antifa aren't fascists, they're communists. Not every authoritarian dictator is a fascist. Ideology matters greatly.

Post some inspirational communist music comrades

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PLoSMIandg

Also for capitalists:
>>>/wsg/1761013

>>133908867
>silent the opposition
>declare violence on institutions and community they disagree with
>force their will on others who are not willing

Sounds a bit fascious to me anon. Fascism is more of an ideology than communism. BTW every socialist or comminust country has always eventually turned out fascist. ALWAYS, so I'm not sure what point you're making.. Antifa is both communist and fascist

>>133908947
https://youtu.be/zz1FGRm2oCU

File: 1483326168483.jpg (184KB, 960x720px) Image search: [Google]

184KB, 960x720px

>>133908947
You're just an autist blinded by idealism clinging to an ideology with fundamental flaws

File: 1493556166123.gif (2MB, 330x166px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 330x166px

>>133907001
>nigger memes

>>133909363
You're just defining any authoritarian state a fascist state because you don't understand what fascism is. Communism is a defined ideology with a manifesto, so is fascism. You cant just define the two extreme opposite ends of the political spectrum as the same thing.

>>133910263
No that's not what I'm doing. There are specific characteristics for fascists and they follow them. Following your logic, they wouldn't communist either, because they don't live up to all the communist principles.

File: 1497202903316.png (353KB, 1024x845px) Image search: [Google]

353KB, 1024x845px

>>133910613
Sigh.....
Just lurk some more, study your history. Read The Doctrine of Fascism and the Communist Manifesto. Study the history of the Frankfrut school and how it laid the seeds for everything we see in the modern left. They are fundamentally opposed in their core principles. Authoritarianism is just a method of organization, not a political ideology.

>>133911997
Wow get off your high chair for a minute would you? I never even implied fascism was any form or structure. In fact nothing I said contradicted anything you did.

If it ain't democracy, it deserves to die

File: wk5PLXN.png (147KB, 839x432px) Image search: [Google]

147KB, 839x432px

>>133909453
>Communism is anti-American
>Economic democracy is anti-American
>But somehow wageslavery is

>>133913384
Everyone loves communism until they have to live through it (or unless they're in the top .002%)

>>133914154
Most people who lived under communism want it back. Capitalism doesn't work and it hasn't worked for them. And you're talking about the 0.002% in the USSR who lived in government apartments compared to the greedy psychopathic western capitalists who destroy entire nations with their blood, sweat, and tear stolen money.

>>133915459
You should really watch The Americans. Enjoy.

>>133915459
Soros is a jew that shills for communism tho. Don't you realize that communism is yet another power grab by wealthy jews. You think you have it bad under capitalism with some freedom and upward class mobility, Just wait until they truly turn everyone into their wageslaves. Take a moment to consider why wealthy jews that dominate the copratist system are actively shilling for communism. You are being duped.

File: BovineUniversity.jpg (22KB, 478x516px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 478x516px

>>133917074
Bingo.

File: dat.jpg (33KB, 528x229px) Image search: [Google]

33KB, 528x229px

>>133917339
Bongo

File: 1490549856594s.jpg (4KB, 125x125px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 125x125px

>>133909363
Registered fascist ama faggot

File: marx_gun_control.jpg (54KB, 449x491px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 449x491px

>>133917074
I'm pretty sure seizing the illegitimate wealth from these rich capitalist Jews isn't what they want. Sure they might have pushed Bolshevism onto Imperial Russia to get power however it backfired as the Russians retook the USSR and turned it into Nazi Germany 2.0 see>>133906898 Stalin purged a lot of the Jews and communism was the best hope for the average Russian serf who was exploited under feudalism, who could have been exploited under Western capitalists like the chinese are, to be a free worker. The Jews didn't expect the USSR to become as successful as it was. They fled en masse after Lenin. Look what Marx said about the working class, is that something they want, an armed populace of goyim. I don't see how Jews could get anymore power than they already have in a workers paradise.

>>133906266

The natural choice of loser nu-males and hysterical hormonally imbalanced SJW's.

You'll often find them trying to blame the results of their poor choices on "the system". They have no career prospects or valuable skills.

File: angry pepe.jpg (40KB, 900x900px) Image search: [Google]

40KB, 900x900px

>>133913384
I've never been more triggered than I am seeing this unironic shitpost. I've been on pol long enough and heard enough verbal and visual poop to not be thrown off but the complete sincerity with which this bull shit is being pushed by what has to be the single most willingly retarded human being ever to grace a keyboard and this fine German dog breeding and waltz forum, in spite of the USSR:
>banning free speech
>famining it's people on purpose
>purging Russians nationals, whose only crimes were loving God and country
>banning religion for 20 years
>stole private property.Those were peoples fucking homes for fucks sake
>retarded the countries amateur hobbyist movement by seizing the means of production and thus restricting them
>Setting Russia back 300 years economically and nationally concerning borders and social cohesion
>It was run by Bundist jews, Menshevik jews, and you guessed it: Bolshevik jews.Turns out that even Lenin was a quarter fucking jewish.They're the only group that made off like bandits so pukes like you can indulge in a self absorbed fantasy

Never in all my years

File: wat.png (954KB, 1920x1200px) Image search: [Google]

954KB, 1920x1200px

>>133915459
>Most people who lived under communism want it back
Proof?

File: 1500233428780.jpg (45KB, 480x720px) Image search: [Google]

45KB, 480x720px

>>133906266

>>133918225
You won't be seizing nit from them you'll be killing and stealing from middle class and upper middle class to give to the ones you hate.

File: loulou-homme_b0667d.jpg (71KB, 640x853px) Image search: [Google]

71KB, 640x853px

>>133906266
bad.

>>133913036
USA isn't a democracy. Otherwise Hillary would be president.

>>133907144
>good, skilled workers without work.

They don't sound very skilled to me. Flawed logic is flawed. People are still making money and keeping busy using skills that became obsolete over 1000 years ago. Automation is useful when it comes to things like transporting and delivering food, creating infrastructure? Taking care of basic needs. It can, in no way, replace an artisan. The goal is, for sure, to move towards a freer and happier society. Capitalism has been moving us steadily towards that for thousands of years. The idea that it can be replaced just because there is less menial labor to be done hardly makes sense as an argument. Food becomes less valuable, a hand carved replica of the Eiffel tower becomes more valuable. Capitalism automatically adjusts for automation, easily.

>>133907497
anarchy-with-welfare. This is great. I just want Anarchy.

>>133908571
This. Antifa are rebelling for state control because they want anarchy because they want state control. It's cyclical logic.

>>133918457
Oh yeah retard 2008 was not the system fucking over a generation of graduates, new home owners and young people. We are still suffering from the repercussions of fed suppression of the rate which only helped the people currently rich.

So fucking stupid.

>>133922636
Work hard, do stuff, get rich. Problem solved. Quit whining, start doing. Faggit.

File: 23423402939.jpg (28KB, 680x583px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 680x583px

>>133922237
>It can, in no way, replace an artisan.
found an actual hipstertard
a really stupid one
massively uneducated and unintelligent
can be replaced by a small pile of poo

>>133922763
That is true, if only.

>>133906266
Fucking retarded. You fucktards wouldn't be around if Hitler had won.

>>133906266

I like Communism because it motivates normies to redpill themselves. Useful idiots.

>>133906266

Kill all antifa retards.
Kill all commies.

There you go, OP, we need to kill the useless fucks.

File: americapepe.png (327KB, 564x564px) Image search: [Google]

327KB, 564x564px

>>133906266
Stalin was a brutal dictator who looked like mario....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcf9CLMQuRQ

wtf is an antifa?

is that like a boot licker?