EXPOSE THE MEDIA, SPREAD THIS IMAGE AND TREND #FAKENEWSPOLLS

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/months-record-low-trump-troubles-russia-health-care/story?id=48639490

source of info, of course its not fake so we need to spread this for those independents and normal people that are swayed to believe america actually hates trump

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To clarify for the shill that said this was an independent cry

Nu-Pol is letting this slide

>>133903970
it frustrates me i had to make 3 threads and none are doing well, how can we let this happen

>>133900878
You morons, that's because those numbers mirror the response rates in the population

>>133900878
That's literally what people self identify as.

>>133904834
>>133904943
Its not
1. They claim its by random sample, so they dont even try to match it to something, according to them
2. Show me source its a 35/25 ratio, I know dems are slightly more, but they arent 150% more than republicans, show me source

>media polling is biased and full of shit
In other news, water is wet

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>>133905130
Republicans are 23% at both Pew and Gallup. The difference is with Independents, which ranges from 35% to 40% depending on where you look. Dems are at 30-35% depending on where you look. The numbers in the survey aren't exact, but they're in the ballpark, which is the case for most surveys.

>>133905130
Gallup does a monthly poll on party affiliation. The most recent results from June 2017 say 26% Republican, 30% Democrat, and 42% Independent. So, they under-sampled Republicans by at least 3%, over-sampled Democrats by at least 5%, and under-sampled Independents by at least 7%. I say 'at least' because the results fluctuate slightly every month.

>>133905718
Source: http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

>>133905718
It's a random sample, so it's not inconceivable. Republicans have hovered from 25% to 23% for the last 8 years.

>>133905810
The Republican undersample is within the margin of error, but Republicans aren't the only ones who vote for Trump. Independents voted for Trump at 48% vs 42% for Hillary, so an undersample of 7% is definitely going to skew results in a very significant way.

>>133905718
thanks for clarifying a lot in this thread

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>>133900878
http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politics/washington-post-abc-news-poll-july-10-13-2017/2228/

>Interviewers called landlines and cellular phone numbers, first requesting to speak with the youngest adult male or female at home

>requesting to speak with the youngest adult

>>133906010
Wow.

>>133905912
Depends on where you look for your numbers really. In some, the undersampling is about 3%. And the fact that the vote was more or less even means that the group isn't really reliable. There's also the fact that an Independent from California isn't the same as one from Iowa. It's not like Republicans, that went like 93% for Trump or something like that.

>>133906010
Cunts of cunts.

This is the same skew they used to give Crooked a twelve percent lead with ten days left in election..This poll was not of voters and it states they ask for youngest adult in house..It's complete bullshit to poll any asshole who doesn't even voter or know the issues..Fact is Trump oters still support him and others still don't..Remember the Atlanta race that was one of the more educated in country...The democrat got 600 more votes then general and spent 35 million...Things don't change and haven't..

Let us compare this

http://archive.is/FDtOv

With this

http://archive.is/P35Vr

Really makes you think.

>>133905591
>2015

>>133906010
nigga i dont see that in the methodology

Nu-pol sucks

>>133906896
>http://archive.is/P35Vr
>>133906896
its at the very end

>>133906896
Last page, 2nd paragraph ("A dual frame..."), 2nd sentence

You're a dumbass

>>133900878
What I take issue with is that tiny sample size. Besides polls are notoriously inaccurate.

>>133907056
Don't be rude

>>133900878
You trump tards are so quick to jump on retarded stuff like this.

It is not uncommon to leave out the remaining percentage that 'didn't want to participate' or 'didn't know'.

Is it difficult for you 13 year olds to grasp that this could very well be the case here?

>>133909348
Read the thread before you start slinging insults, kiwi

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>>133900878
Bump

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>>133900878
bump to piss off the storm fags and "her turn" shills taking over /pol/

>>133909694
I did. Nowhere does anyone mention the remaining 7% could be an 'I don't know' response.

So what do you mean?

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>>133900878
>>133906010
What do you expect from the place giving Bernstein and Podesta a paycheck.

>>133900878
You do realize that republicans are weighted more than dems in this scenario, right?

Bumperino

>>133910493
You flunked basic math.

>>133910493
you do realize you're a fucking retard, right?

>>133910330
I mean that the issue isn't that it doesn't add up to 100%, it's the oversampling/undersampling by party affiliation

>>133900878
Bump.

They fixed the polls pre election why would the stop doing it post election

>>133910434
They polled 1,001

>>133910493
>>133910642
hey go easy on him 25 IS more than 35

>>133900878
>English and Spanish

Of fucking course.

>>133900878
>expose the media for pointing out the majority of Americans are Democrats and Independents
Stupid as fuck. The only thing that matters is the swing states anyways. All this poll says is that the popular vote wouldn't go for Trump, which is not a surprise since most Americans hate him.

>>133900878
Spread

>>133900878
Bump

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>sampled the youngest in the house

>>133900878
bump

>>133904943
Dipshit the country is like 47% independent